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Speaker 1: Apoday production.

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Speaker 2: We begin today by acknowledging the traditional custodians of the

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Speaker 2: land on which we gather today and pay our respects

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Speaker 2: to their elders past and present. We extend that respect

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Speaker 2: to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's here today. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm Ashy, I'm Kiara.

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Speaker 2: This is a podcast where we learn, laugh, and level

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Speaker 2: up together.

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Speaker 1: Let's go deep, let the emotions flow, and find the

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Speaker 1: lessons to grow and Glow. Nothing is off the table

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Speaker 1: with Grow and Glow, and we're here to be your expander.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to Growing Glow.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, exciting to be here.

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Speaker 1: We've got a massive catch up episode. Would you guys love?

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Speaker 1: Like I was saying to someone or maybe in my

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Speaker 1: stories the other day, Like Kiara and I see each

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Speaker 1: other pretty much once a month. We want to see

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Speaker 1: each other more. It just hasn't been happening. We need

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Speaker 1: to prioritize it. But once a month, like so much

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Speaker 1: happens every so much, and we talk all the time,

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Speaker 1: true voice notes and update each other. But when we

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Speaker 1: come up here, it's like so much has changed from

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Speaker 1: the last month. I know like in our lives with

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Speaker 1: our kids, or like just work, or how we're feeling

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Speaker 1: about something. So much changes. So we've got lots of

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Speaker 1: updates today for you. But before we get started, what's

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Speaker 1: your share of the week? Okay?

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Speaker 2: So my share of the week is a TV show. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's on Netflix. It's called Ashley Madison.

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Speaker 1: Have you watched it? Oh? Is this the Dating?

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Speaker 2: Yes? That was Oh my gosh, I found it so doozy.

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Speaker 1: I have not watched it, but I've heard about what happened,

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: So basically, this online website that couples go to have

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Speaker 2: an affair. So it's people who are married or in

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Speaker 2: person you're having an affair with is also having an

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Speaker 1: But their partner doesn't know. It's a private well no, it's.

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Speaker 2: A private website. So anyways, there's all these couples that

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Speaker 2: are doing this, and what happens eventually is it all

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Speaker 2: gets leaked someone, so if someone hacks someone hacks it.

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Speaker 2: There's definitely some full on moments in it and some

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Speaker 2: really sad things that happened because of that. But it

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Speaker 2: is just like one of those shows where you're just like,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh. And there's even people that I watched

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Speaker 1: I watched them growing up.

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Speaker 2: There were YouTubers that I watched what I know, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, and they were on there,

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Speaker 2: and just like her perspective, how it made her feel,

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Speaker 2: how their relationship was beforehand.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just found it really interesting. And it's only a

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Speaker 2: Just like even the high up people in the industry,

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Speaker 1: Full on I suppose anything to do with the relationships affairs,

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Speaker 1: it's so taboo, like quote unquote wrong that like everyone

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Speaker 1: being leaked and exposed. That's crazy. It destroyed obviously so

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think just the storyline and how it happened,

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Speaker 2: a business and even like they were, I don't want

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Speaker 2: and they're chatting and doing all this stuff, but it's

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Speaker 1: So it was a bots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bots all the people working they do.

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Speaker 1: They have to pay to be on this website, so

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Speaker 2: Oh it's mind So there's just so many twists and turns,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've seen it, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And because I saw a familiar face, I was

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Speaker 1: And they're not together now they are they stay together? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he go. Oh. My share of the week is I've

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Speaker 1: shared this before, but always trying to turn something negative

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Speaker 1: these really negative comments that I got negative dms. I

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Speaker 1: comments like, you know, one was you never wanted a daughter.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's obvious that he's your favorite because you

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Speaker 1: business class. Lots of projections, lots just saying how fun

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Speaker 1: lots about my trip, about the money that I spent

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. It was just negative. Like honestly, it

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Speaker 1: But then on the flip side, I got a hundred

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Speaker 1: times more love and beautiful dms of the complete opposite.

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Speaker 1: So people saying, oh my gosh, this quality time with

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Speaker 1: Because I don't like people commenting. Obviously, no one wants

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Speaker 1: people that think that's really fucking cool. And at the

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Speaker 2: And even to know that, like the right people will

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Speaker 2: People that make you feel good, yeah, and that value

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Speaker 1: Yes, Or if you're triggered, go deeper, like why are

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Speaker 2: And youw triggers pop up all the time, all the time,

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Speaker 2: my kids to Disneyland.

430
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Speaker 1: Everyone who has kids.

431
00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,400
Speaker 2: You have to even yourself as an adult, feel in

432
00:17:58,441 --> 00:18:00,721
Speaker 2: a child like, yeah, he doesn't want to go to Disneyland.

433
00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:06,161
Speaker 1: It is just barcket list. It was magical and just

434
00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:08,521
Speaker 1: so much fun. And I went on all the rides

435
00:18:08,561 --> 00:18:12,440
Speaker 1: attaj which I'm very not a right person. One massive

436
00:18:12,441 --> 00:18:14,120
Speaker 1: tip I said this on my social media if you

437
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,440
Speaker 1: ever go to Disneyland, it's expensive, but get a fast

438
00:18:16,481 --> 00:18:19,961
Speaker 1: pass because the lines are huge, and we weren't even

439
00:18:20,001 --> 00:18:22,561
Speaker 1: there like in peak peak season, but some of the

440
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,921
Speaker 1: rides were like it says on there like an hour long,

441
00:18:25,041 --> 00:18:26,921
Speaker 1: or hour and thirty minutes long, hour and forty five

442
00:18:26,921 --> 00:18:29,920
Speaker 1: minutes long. So like with children, they don't want to

443
00:18:29,921 --> 00:18:30,561
Speaker 1: be waiting in lines.

444
00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,920
Speaker 2: It's we do only get on like three rides literally, and.

445
00:18:32,921 --> 00:18:34,960
Speaker 1: Everyone says you need three days for Disneyland. We did

446
00:18:35,001 --> 00:18:38,041
Speaker 1: it in six hours. So it was nearly six hundred

447
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,721
Speaker 1: dollars for a fast pass with both of us got

448
00:18:40,761 --> 00:18:43,080
Speaker 1: on every ride within like five ten minutes. Yeah, and

449
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,920
Speaker 1: we got to sit down and have lunch. That's another

450
00:18:44,921 --> 00:18:47,681
Speaker 1: thing too. Everyone said the food at Disneyland is like disgusting,

451
00:18:47,761 --> 00:18:50,001
Speaker 1: take your own snacks, blah blah blah. But we had

452
00:18:50,041 --> 00:18:51,561
Speaker 1: a beautiful lunch. It was like it was like a

453
00:18:51,561 --> 00:18:54,360
Speaker 1: tariarchy chicken with like a fried rice and next to

454
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,201
Speaker 1: it there was a steakhouse, which we had to wait

455
00:18:56,201 --> 00:18:57,640
Speaker 1: like an hour we went there, but we had a

456
00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,321
Speaker 1: beautiful lunch and then we got a yummy soft served

457
00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:02,281
Speaker 1: ice cream, and I think he got a cookie and

458
00:19:02,561 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 1: it was beautiful. But just the joy in his face

459
00:19:05,801 --> 00:19:07,721
Speaker 1: of like me being out of experience that with him

460
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,360
Speaker 1: was oh, just like I'll never forget it. The next

461
00:19:10,441 --> 00:19:13,160
Speaker 1: day we drove into Paris City and it's just bucket

462
00:19:13,201 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 1: listed me and Steve has no interest in Paris. He

463
00:19:15,761 --> 00:19:17,361
Speaker 1: just never wanted to go. It's just not something he's

464
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,241
Speaker 1: interested in. So I was so excited that I could

465
00:19:19,281 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 1: go and like tick that off, and I fell in

466
00:19:21,201 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 1: love with the city. It's magical. And once again everyone's

467
00:19:23,521 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 1: like it's dirty. There's so much crime, like hold your

468
00:19:25,721 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 1: handbag close, there's peppocket is everywhere. Didn't experience any of that,

469
00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 1: and everyone warned me that everyone's very rude. Complete opposite.

470
00:19:33,321 --> 00:19:36,281
Speaker 1: I think everyone was so kind, so understanding, even with

471
00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:40,400
Speaker 1: language barriers. I went to like the touristy spots to

472
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,920
Speaker 1: get photos where you can see the Eiffel Tower. I

473
00:19:42,961 --> 00:19:44,481
Speaker 1: put my trifle on there. I was like, I'm just

474
00:19:44,521 --> 00:19:47,161
Speaker 1: gonna risk it, like I'm mindful, like I'm looking around

475
00:19:47,201 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 1: to make sure no one's too close to tripod and

476
00:19:49,241 --> 00:19:51,640
Speaker 1: I put Taje in place so quickly, push record, go

477
00:19:51,681 --> 00:19:53,360
Speaker 1: stand there like do a little thing and then grab

478
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 1: it again. But like, I didn't see any crime, so

479
00:19:56,001 --> 00:19:58,201
Speaker 1: maybe we got lucky. But I found it a really

480
00:19:58,241 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 1: beautiful city. And yeah, we went to this incredible restaurant

481
00:20:01,681 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 1: which I don't know how we got seats there because

482
00:20:03,441 --> 00:20:06,161
Speaker 1: apparently it's so hard to get into it called led Giraffe,

483
00:20:06,561 --> 00:20:08,521
Speaker 1: and they've got all inside that you can't see the

484
00:20:08,521 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower, and then a couple of seats outside and

485
00:20:10,441 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 1: we were bang in front of it, like literally, just

486
00:20:12,681 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: like the most perfect view. We had an awesome steak,

487
00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 1: we got a yummy dessert, and then every hour on

488
00:20:18,561 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: the hour, the Eiffel Tower sparkles.

489
00:20:20,721 --> 00:20:24,841
Speaker 2: I looked honestly amazing stories I couldn't even imagine in person.

490
00:20:25,001 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 1: I can't even explain it. It is just incredible. The

491
00:20:29,041 --> 00:20:31,321
Speaker 1: hotel that we stayed at. Everyone's asking I can't pronounce

492
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,360
Speaker 1: it. It's like for something like that. But someone swiped up

493
00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 1: and said, that's where they filmed the restaurant in Emily

494
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 1: in Paris. Have you watched that series? I was like,

495
00:20:39,761 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, I've watched a couple of episodes, but

496
00:20:41,441 --> 00:20:43,761
Speaker 1: I didn't realize I said, yeah, that's the exact restaurant

497
00:20:43,761 --> 00:20:46,521
Speaker 1: that they film at, so we stayed there and that

498
00:20:46,681 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: was awesome. But then we were booked in for another

499
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: hotel that had a view of the Eiffel Tower, and

500
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: from the photos, the view looked very distant. When I

501
00:20:54,481 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 1: got there and we pulled up to the hotel, I

502
00:20:56,201 --> 00:20:59,761
Speaker 1: was like, it's right there. It's literally in front of us.

503
00:21:00,041 --> 00:21:02,241
Speaker 1: So we got in our bowcon. I was like, oh

504
00:21:02,281 --> 00:21:05,041
Speaker 1: my god, I'm not booking a restaurant tonight. We're getting

505
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,321
Speaker 1: room service and we're gonna sit and like eat and

506
00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 1: watch it sparkle. And we watched it at nine pm

507
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,281
Speaker 1: and ten pm, so we've got two more sparkles and

508
00:21:12,281 --> 00:21:14,241
Speaker 1: then it was time to come home. It was quite

509
00:21:14,241 --> 00:21:15,801
Speaker 1: a fast trip for a europe Troops.

510
00:21:15,801 --> 00:21:18,001
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask, did it go really fast because you

511
00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:20,801
Speaker 2: went to a couple different places. Yeah, it didn't.

512
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: It didn't. I think it didn't because I really soaked

513
00:21:23,521 --> 00:21:27,321
Speaker 1: up and enjoyed every moment and there wasn't really timelines

514
00:21:27,321 --> 00:21:30,321
Speaker 1: apart from like the connecting flights and whatever, but even

515
00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,561
Speaker 1: those are just with him. He loves aeroplanes, so like

516
00:21:33,001 --> 00:21:35,561
Speaker 1: I hate flying, but he loves it, so his joy

517
00:21:36,241 --> 00:21:38,281
Speaker 1: just took away any fear I had in some moments

518
00:21:38,321 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: when there was rough turbulence and I jump like I

519
00:21:41,041 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 1: do get scared. He would hold my hand. He's like,

520
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: it's just the clouds, mom, It's okay, it's normal. With

521
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,681
Speaker 1: how relaxed he was, I was just like, Okay, we've

522
00:21:48,681 --> 00:21:52,441
Speaker 1: got this. The jet LAG's rough, like I'm on sleeping tablets,

523
00:21:52,481 --> 00:21:54,561
Speaker 1: taking half asleep in tablet each night. And the one

524
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: night I didn't, I was awake from one am. So

525
00:21:57,241 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: the jet lag on the way back rough. On the

526
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,601
Speaker 1: way over sweet, but Taj hasn't been faced. He's sleeping

527
00:22:02,721 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: all night full of beans. So day we got home

528
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,801
Speaker 1: was like so exhausted, he was sweet. It has not

529
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 1: affected him one bit. I said it in a recommendation,

530
00:22:11,001 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: and think in a previous episode or all like a

531
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,761
Speaker 1: share of the week. If you have older children, like

532
00:22:14,801 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 1: I cannot recommend taking them on a trip more like

533
00:22:17,441 --> 00:22:20,121
Speaker 1: it is just the quality time you get with them.

534
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,201
Speaker 1: It's so special. It's something I will never ever forget.

535
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:25,801
Speaker 1: And I want to take Tarla to Disneyland. To be honest,

536
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,561
Speaker 1: I was looking at the young kids around and I

537
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,321
Speaker 1: thought I would be like, oh, I wish Charla was

538
00:22:29,321 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: here to experience this. But honestly, the toddlers that were

539
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: there were asleep in their pram, running away from their

540
00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: parents or screaming and having tantrums, and I felt like

541
00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: the parents looked really frazzled. The older kids kind of

542
00:22:41,001 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: not were missing out, but it was just looking like

543
00:22:43,481 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: much with Taj and I were literally like I was

544
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: like a little kid, like running around with him, like

545
00:22:48,041 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: just like getting all excited and chatting. It was just

546
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: it was really amazing. So when she's probably eight, I

547
00:22:53,721 --> 00:22:56,721
Speaker 1: would probably take both of them again, but I wouldn't

548
00:22:56,721 --> 00:22:59,321
Speaker 1: take her young when she can't remember it. I'm sure

549
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:00,201
Speaker 1: she had a great day.

550
00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: She wouldn't notice the difference between saying go into like

551
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: sea World or dream or not, you know what I

552
00:23:04,441 --> 00:23:06,041
Speaker 2: mean at that, she just wouldn't notice.

553
00:23:05,921 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: The amount of money and travel and like exhaustion to

554
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,481
Speaker 1: get over there for that, Like, yeah, I think it's

555
00:23:10,521 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: better to wait till they can adjust better. Like Yahaj's

556
00:23:13,281 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: perfect age. Oh that cycol Oh. I loved it. I

557
00:23:17,681 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 1: never get post holiday blues because I love coming back

558
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,441
Speaker 1: to my reality. But I didn't want it to end.

559
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: I just like was having so much fun with him,

560
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: but it's really cool to come home to Tala. Like

561
00:23:26,721 --> 00:23:29,281
Speaker 1: I was telling Kiara this morning, she asked me her reaction,

562
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: and when I came to the lounge dream she was

563
00:23:31,441 --> 00:23:33,561
Speaker 1: just like mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy ran up to me

564
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: and her legs It's like she couldn't control them. She

565
00:23:35,721 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: was so excited, and she would just stare at me

566
00:23:37,761 --> 00:23:40,281
Speaker 1: and like touch my face really softly and just like

567
00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:42,001
Speaker 1: the biggest grin on her face. And we sat on

568
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,561
Speaker 1: the couch and she wrapped her legs around me and

569
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,521
Speaker 1: she just stare like there's this big grid in my

570
00:23:46,561 --> 00:23:49,641
Speaker 1: face and stare at me. And her and Steve had

571
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,721
Speaker 1: really beautiful quality time, like they have bonded so much.

572
00:23:52,801 --> 00:23:55,241
Speaker 1: Like she was a massive mummies girl. Now at night,

573
00:23:55,321 --> 00:23:56,601
Speaker 1: like I've always put it to bed and now it's

574
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,801
Speaker 1: like daddy, do daddy brush teeth, Daddy do this, Daddy, Daddy, daddy,

575
00:24:00,201 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: Like it's very it's more even now. Yes, so I

576
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,481
Speaker 1: think they really got a chance to bomb. But when

577
00:24:04,521 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm there, when I was just there, was she always

578
00:24:06,681 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: wanted me. So they've had that chance to like hang

579
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,401
Speaker 1: out properly. And he's really loved that. Oh that's yeah,

580
00:24:12,521 --> 00:24:15,041
Speaker 1: it's really nice. So my other update is just waiting

581
00:24:15,041 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: for my next surgery public system. Everyone's like, why do

582
00:24:17,761 --> 00:24:19,521
Speaker 1: you go private? But I want this same surgeon, so

583
00:24:19,681 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: they only do public. I just want to get it

584
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: over and done with. So yeah, I'm just waiting for that. Otherwise,

585
00:24:27,241 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 1: life goes on. What's your update? Lot's been going on

586
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:30,761
Speaker 1: for you?

587
00:24:31,041 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, as you guys know, I think I've roughly

588
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,321
Speaker 2: spoken about, like Miller struggling bits and pieces with school,

589
00:24:39,481 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 2: but lately it's been a lot more intense, Probably the

590
00:24:43,001 --> 00:24:46,121
Speaker 2: last three to six months. I feel like it's gradually

591
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: just been getting worse and worse and worse. She's been

592
00:24:48,001 --> 00:24:51,521
Speaker 2: getting really anxious about school. There's been tears like every

593
00:24:51,521 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: single morning the night beforehand. I've just been having to

594
00:24:54,481 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: like you know, stay out with her and like have

595
00:24:56,321 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: it pep talk with her and tell her like you know,

596
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: like it's okay, Mommy will be there with you. We

597
00:25:00,241 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: can go and do this, we can go and do that.

598
00:25:02,201 --> 00:25:05,321
Speaker 2: And it starts on like a Sunday night. She's really

599
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 2: bad on a Sunday night, So she usually has like

600
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: a big male down for like a solid hour or

601
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: longer on a Sunday night, where she's needing a lot

602
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,281
Speaker 2: of comfort, and then it's I would say by Thursday

603
00:25:15,441 --> 00:25:17,961
Speaker 2: she starts to get a bit more comfortable with going

604
00:25:18,001 --> 00:25:22,041
Speaker 2: to school. Friday she's usually okay. Saturday she's good. Sunday

605
00:25:22,041 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: it starts again. So it's pretty much like three days

606
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,401
Speaker 2: of the week where she's okay, and then the rest

607
00:25:27,441 --> 00:25:31,161
Speaker 2: of the time she's just been really anxious. We kind

608
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 2: of knew what she was going through, and we have

609
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,241
Speaker 2: been seeing pediatricians to try to get some help to

610
00:25:36,321 --> 00:25:39,321
Speaker 2: navigate through this. Her teacher put us aside and was like,

611
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: you know, I've dealt with so many kids with anxiety

612
00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:44,761
Speaker 2: and separation, anxiety and all different things, and she's like,

613
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 2: I just feel like there's something a little bit different

614
00:25:47,441 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: with Miller. Obviously hearing that, there's like two sides to

615
00:25:50,721 --> 00:25:54,281
Speaker 2: it all. There's the initial emotions of being upset because

616
00:25:54,321 --> 00:25:58,001
Speaker 2: obviously she's already got things at an extra on her plate,

617
00:25:58,281 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: being a baby that was born with a cleft and

618
00:26:00,961 --> 00:26:03,201
Speaker 2: you know, having her surgeries and stuff that she still

619
00:26:03,241 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: has to navigate. Kurd I held a lot of sadness

620
00:26:09,721 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: just because you know, you just want it. You just

621
00:26:12,961 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: want whatever issue they're going to have, like you just

622
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: want to take it on yourself anyway. We don't have

623
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 2: any diagnosis of anything yet, but we are going through

624
00:26:22,681 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 2: the process of potentially getting a diagnosis, which I'll talk

625
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: about more once we actually get it. The reason why

626
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,801
Speaker 2: I'm kind of not sharing exactly what it is or

627
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,921
Speaker 2: anything like that is because I'm just kind of right now,

628
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,801
Speaker 2: I'm not wanting outside noise. There's enough like going on,

629
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,921
Speaker 2: and there's so many people we're seeing. We're seeing natural paths,

630
00:26:39,961 --> 00:26:45,321
Speaker 2: we're seeing psychologists, we're seeing neuropsychologists, we're seeing pediatricians, We're

631
00:26:45,321 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: seeing her school counselor catch ups with their teachers. Like

632
00:26:48,921 --> 00:26:51,761
Speaker 2: there's so much going on. A couple weeks ago, we

633
00:26:51,801 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: had four appointments. One of them was with Kurtine it

634
00:26:54,961 --> 00:26:58,281
Speaker 2: was almost three hours long. With her neuropsychologist. It's just

635
00:26:58,321 --> 00:27:00,441
Speaker 2: been really heavy, Like it's just been really heavy lately

636
00:27:00,481 --> 00:27:03,801
Speaker 2: because obviously Miller not coping and being so upset and

637
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: trying to hold her and be there for her and

638
00:27:07,201 --> 00:27:09,761
Speaker 2: show up as the best mum I can be to

639
00:27:09,801 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: make sure she feels comforted, and such a fine line

640
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: of like you know, pushing and then pulling back on

641
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,001
Speaker 2: certain things, like even dancing. I've taken her out of

642
00:27:18,041 --> 00:27:20,041
Speaker 2: dance class because like it's just another whole thing for

643
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: her right now, and she wasn't coping with that as well.

644
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: She was getting super emotional when she had to go,

645
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,321
Speaker 2: So I was like, we're just like stopping that. There's

646
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: enough going on. And then, you know, even just like

647
00:27:29,761 --> 00:27:32,041
Speaker 2: with having a naturopath, there's all these new supplements, trying

648
00:27:32,041 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: to get her to take the supplements, and it's been

649
00:27:34,761 --> 00:27:39,001
Speaker 2: like the taste grows. They are fucking rank our kids

650
00:27:39,001 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: meant to do that, I know. So yeah, it's been

651
00:27:41,801 --> 00:27:44,801
Speaker 2: a journey, guys, and it's just kind of us now

652
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,321
Speaker 2: we're in the unknown, we're in the limbo once we

653
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,681
Speaker 2: actually have a diagnosis, so obviously be a lot more

654
00:27:49,721 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: we can.

655
00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:51,001
Speaker 1: Do to support her.

656
00:27:51,561 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: School's being amazing, Like at the moment, what's happening is

657
00:27:54,721 --> 00:27:57,121
Speaker 2: we're actually dropping her straight to the school counselor rather

658
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,801
Speaker 2: than to class and she gets to like draw a

659
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,761
Speaker 2: flower with her and like go pat the guinea pigs.

660
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,961
Speaker 2: But basically, what the neuropsychologist is thinking is because she's

661
00:28:06,001 --> 00:28:09,161
Speaker 2: probably got this underlying issue that's going on, and she's

662
00:28:09,201 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: been masking for so long, she's been pushed to the

663
00:28:12,721 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 2: spot now where she can't hold her mask up anymore.

664
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:18,041
Speaker 2: She can't fake it. So it's just got to the

665
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,201
Speaker 2: point now where like that's why the anxiety is showing

666
00:28:20,241 --> 00:28:23,321
Speaker 2: where it's coming from. It's not actually anxiety. It's because

667
00:28:23,321 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: she's masking and trying to quote unquote fit in, and

668
00:28:26,481 --> 00:28:28,961
Speaker 2: she's sick of having the mask up. She's got push

669
00:28:29,001 --> 00:28:30,961
Speaker 2: to the point where she's like, I can't fake this anymore.

670
00:28:31,521 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: So it made a lot of sense to me when

671
00:28:32,801 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: she said in that way, because it did feel like

672
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: it came on quite quickly, Like now we kind of

673
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:38,561
Speaker 2: know all the things that we know. I feel like

674
00:28:38,561 --> 00:28:40,841
Speaker 2: she probably is going to have a diagnosis with this.

675
00:28:41,521 --> 00:28:43,641
Speaker 2: Once we know and we can support her, I will

676
00:28:43,641 --> 00:28:47,361
Speaker 2: feel good, I think just right now because like even

677
00:28:47,361 --> 00:28:49,321
Speaker 2: the school and stuff, they're definitely doing things to help

678
00:28:49,321 --> 00:28:51,441
Speaker 2: with her. Like once we actually have like a diagnosis,

679
00:28:51,481 --> 00:28:54,321
Speaker 2: we'll know exactly what she's needing. Yeah, she's got a

680
00:28:54,321 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: break card now, so whenever she needs a break, she

681
00:28:56,601 --> 00:28:58,281
Speaker 2: just says like okay, or a teacher can say, I

682
00:28:58,281 --> 00:28:59,561
Speaker 2: feel like you need a break, Miller, do you want

683
00:28:59,561 --> 00:29:01,001
Speaker 2: to run up and go have a break, so she

684
00:29:01,041 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: can go like play Lego, but just being in the

685
00:29:03,641 --> 00:29:06,961
Speaker 2: classroom environment just seems to be very overwhelming for her.

686
00:29:07,481 --> 00:29:08,801
Speaker 2: So that's just going to be the new thing for

687
00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:10,761
Speaker 2: us to navigate, you know. And I mean the coolest

688
00:29:10,801 --> 00:29:13,201
Speaker 2: thing is we've got so many people that are incredible

689
00:29:13,241 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: in their field that we're seeing and we're speaking to,

690
00:29:16,041 --> 00:29:18,601
Speaker 2: so you know, whatever their guidance is with us best

691
00:29:18,641 --> 00:29:21,801
Speaker 2: assisting Miller. I've had an influx of messages coming through

692
00:29:21,881 --> 00:29:24,081
Speaker 2: saying so many different opinions, and I just want to

693
00:29:24,281 --> 00:29:27,481
Speaker 2: straightway say like please, I know you're coming from a

694
00:29:27,521 --> 00:29:30,001
Speaker 2: good place, but right now, like we're getting advice from

695
00:29:30,001 --> 00:29:32,641
Speaker 2: professionals and like even his people being like homeschooler but

696
00:29:32,681 --> 00:29:34,841
Speaker 2: then like a professional right now is like saying, it's

697
00:29:34,881 --> 00:29:37,041
Speaker 2: just such a fine line. Once we know what's going on,

698
00:29:37,401 --> 00:29:39,241
Speaker 2: then we can start to make decisions because it's.

699
00:29:39,201 --> 00:29:41,641
Speaker 1: Yeah, not going on online can give their opinion and

700
00:29:41,681 --> 00:29:43,241
Speaker 1: know what's right for your daughter at the end of

701
00:29:43,241 --> 00:29:45,401
Speaker 1: the day, even the medical professions like one hundred percent

702
00:29:45,441 --> 00:29:47,521
Speaker 1: you're weak listening and taking it all on. But you,

703
00:29:47,601 --> 00:29:50,641
Speaker 1: as her mom, like you intuitively would make decisions it's

704
00:29:50,801 --> 00:29:52,601
Speaker 1: right for her and your family.

705
00:29:52,841 --> 00:29:55,841
Speaker 2: Until you're actually living and breathing it and having to

706
00:29:55,841 --> 00:29:58,521
Speaker 2: deal with like your child being so unhappy. Like the

707
00:29:58,561 --> 00:30:01,521
Speaker 2: other day, we're even at a birthday party and she

708
00:30:01,961 --> 00:30:03,121
Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to go. Then she was

709
00:30:03,121 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: like I do want to go. Then she's like I

710
00:30:04,201 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: don't want to go. And I was like, okay, well

711
00:30:06,281 --> 00:30:08,801
Speaker 2: let's just go and see how you feel, babe. We went,

712
00:30:08,881 --> 00:30:12,041
Speaker 2: and like twenty minutes in she had this massive meltdown

713
00:30:12,081 --> 00:30:13,881
Speaker 2: and it was a lot. There was a lot going on,

714
00:30:14,321 --> 00:30:17,001
Speaker 2: and I pulled her aside and she just started sobbing,

715
00:30:17,001 --> 00:30:19,401
Speaker 2: and she was like, why can't I just be normal?

716
00:30:20,121 --> 00:30:22,881
Speaker 2: What's wrong with me? Like why am I feeling like this?

717
00:30:23,681 --> 00:30:26,201
Speaker 2: And I just held her and I was like, your

718
00:30:26,361 --> 00:30:29,241
Speaker 2: heart is your superpower, babe, Like all these big feelings

719
00:30:29,241 --> 00:30:31,921
Speaker 2: you're feeling, like, yes, they feel like a lot, but

720
00:30:31,961 --> 00:30:34,081
Speaker 2: there's so many beautiful things you can do with that,

721
00:30:34,161 --> 00:30:37,001
Speaker 2: and like Mummy's always here to support you, like you know.

722
00:30:37,081 --> 00:30:38,761
Speaker 2: And we just ducked away and just went and hid

723
00:30:38,761 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: in the back room for like an hour, and I

724
00:30:40,561 --> 00:30:43,041
Speaker 2: was like, but it's just now us as her parents

725
00:30:43,081 --> 00:30:45,481
Speaker 2: learning to adapt our lifestyle, because it's coming so hard

726
00:30:45,521 --> 00:30:48,841
Speaker 2: and fast. It's us now learning what her capacity is

727
00:30:49,321 --> 00:30:52,041
Speaker 2: and what she can and can't handle, because she's always

728
00:30:52,081 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: mastered and now she can't anymore. It's us learning to

729
00:30:55,241 --> 00:30:57,601
Speaker 2: support her and even little things like that. What we'll

730
00:30:57,601 --> 00:30:59,601
Speaker 2: probably do next time. I take two cars, so when

731
00:30:59,601 --> 00:31:01,081
Speaker 2: she's ready to leave, one of us can go.

732
00:31:01,081 --> 00:31:02,521
Speaker 1: Take her home. What you're going to have to do?

733
00:31:02,761 --> 00:31:05,481
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, but until you are in the city situation,

734
00:31:05,521 --> 00:31:07,401
Speaker 2: because she was always fine, but we haven't been to

735
00:31:07,401 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: a birthday party for like a month, and she's obviously

736
00:31:10,001 --> 00:31:12,841
Speaker 2: gotten a lot worse within that time frame. So it's

737
00:31:12,881 --> 00:31:15,521
Speaker 2: just a whole new kettle of fish. It's just the

738
00:31:15,561 --> 00:31:18,561
Speaker 2: whole new journey, you know, learning to support her and

739
00:31:18,641 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: navigate her and without.

740
00:31:20,721 --> 00:31:23,681
Speaker 1: Answers to let you encourred her learning as well, Like

741
00:31:23,761 --> 00:31:27,161
Speaker 1: definitely learning as parents how to navigate this for her,

742
00:31:27,281 --> 00:31:30,281
Speaker 1: for yourselves, to the other kids. Definitely what the future

743
00:31:30,321 --> 00:31:33,401
Speaker 1: looks like if you do get a diagnosis, what that

744
00:31:33,481 --> 00:31:37,201
Speaker 1: looks like, What treatments are there, what support is there? Yeah,

745
00:31:37,441 --> 00:31:40,761
Speaker 1: Financially like there's so many layers and financially.

746
00:31:40,201 --> 00:31:42,601
Speaker 2: Too huge, Like I think in like one week, we

747
00:31:42,681 --> 00:31:48,761
Speaker 2: spent like probably five grand in appointments in one week,

748
00:31:48,801 --> 00:31:52,081
Speaker 2: and we're just like this is hectic, it's full on.

749
00:31:52,161 --> 00:31:53,761
Speaker 2: It's a lot. And then yeah, like I mean the

750
00:31:53,801 --> 00:31:56,281
Speaker 2: other elements is like obviously I've definitely had my moments

751
00:31:56,321 --> 00:31:58,721
Speaker 2: with like not so much Reagan because I feel like

752
00:31:58,721 --> 00:31:59,761
Speaker 2: I get a lot of one on one time with

753
00:31:59,881 --> 00:32:02,281
Speaker 2: Rigs when the others you're at school, but Lincoln, like

754
00:32:02,321 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: whenever I have spare time, I've been really like all

755
00:32:04,521 --> 00:32:06,521
Speaker 2: hands on deck with him, like going and playing soccer

756
00:32:06,681 --> 00:32:08,721
Speaker 2: last night, playing Harry Potter with him. The night before,

757
00:32:08,761 --> 00:32:11,041
Speaker 2: We're cuddling on the couch, like just trying to find

758
00:32:11,041 --> 00:32:13,641
Speaker 2: those pockets of time, but then also being there for

759
00:32:13,761 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: Miller because she's needing me when she's emotional. It's just

760
00:32:17,001 --> 00:32:19,401
Speaker 2: been a juggling act. But we should have a diagnosis

761
00:32:19,401 --> 00:32:22,041
Speaker 2: by the end of October. Until then, it's just.

762
00:32:22,361 --> 00:32:26,521
Speaker 1: Day by day, day by day. Yeah, it's a lot

763
00:32:26,561 --> 00:32:27,241
Speaker 1: for all of you.

764
00:32:27,481 --> 00:32:28,121
Speaker 2: It is a lot.

765
00:32:28,561 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: She's very lucky to have you as a mama, though

766
00:32:30,321 --> 00:32:31,881
Speaker 1: I keep saying that to you, but she really is

767
00:32:31,881 --> 00:32:33,561
Speaker 1: like there's nothing more that you can do, Like you're

768
00:32:33,601 --> 00:32:36,041
Speaker 1: doing everything more and beyond to support her, make sure

769
00:32:36,041 --> 00:32:38,801
Speaker 1: she feels loved and it will be her superpower one day.

770
00:32:38,841 --> 00:32:41,041
Speaker 1: Like I just know it. I know it will be,

771
00:32:41,161 --> 00:32:43,881
Speaker 1: it's just like you're in the thick of navigating it.

772
00:32:44,321 --> 00:32:45,681
Speaker 1: That's really hard as a mama.

773
00:32:45,881 --> 00:32:48,281
Speaker 2: It is because like the one thing you want to

774
00:32:48,321 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: be able to do is like consolidate your child, and

775
00:32:51,521 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: when everything you're doing, like you can't do that and

776
00:32:54,521 --> 00:32:57,641
Speaker 2: it's like happening daily, Yeah you do. You feel like

777
00:32:57,681 --> 00:32:58,081
Speaker 2: a failure.

778
00:32:58,121 --> 00:33:01,841
Speaker 1: It's definitely triggering, of course, And like you said at start,

779
00:33:01,881 --> 00:33:03,801
Speaker 1: you just want to take anything from them like you

780
00:33:03,841 --> 00:33:06,121
Speaker 1: would even when I was in hospital, Like I just

781
00:33:06,201 --> 00:33:07,841
Speaker 1: was like, I'm so glad this is me, not my kid,

782
00:33:07,881 --> 00:33:09,641
Speaker 1: like you would just take all this sadness even if

783
00:33:09,641 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: they get a flu. I'm like, oh I wish I

784
00:33:11,001 --> 00:33:11,721
Speaker 1: was sick, not them.

785
00:33:11,761 --> 00:33:14,161
Speaker 2: You know, it's like accepting it, right because it's only

786
00:33:14,201 --> 00:33:15,081
Speaker 2: been a few weeks.

787
00:33:15,321 --> 00:33:16,161
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm surrendering.

788
00:33:16,321 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: So now it's like I'm surrendering. It's like this is

789
00:33:18,241 --> 00:33:20,721
Speaker 2: a new chapter and like this is our new normal

790
00:33:20,801 --> 00:33:23,361
Speaker 2: and I just want to figure out how I can

791
00:33:23,441 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: best support her and be therefore as a mum. And

792
00:33:25,481 --> 00:33:27,081
Speaker 2: I think, you know, for a few weeks I was

793
00:33:27,121 --> 00:33:30,161
Speaker 2: definitely very solidly on her, which is great. But then

794
00:33:30,161 --> 00:33:31,921
Speaker 2: even when I had moments away from her, I was

795
00:33:31,961 --> 00:33:34,441
Speaker 2: dissociating and like keep myself busy with work again, felt

796
00:33:34,481 --> 00:33:36,881
Speaker 2: myself going back to my old ways of like not

797
00:33:36,921 --> 00:33:39,161
Speaker 2: wanting to deal with my shit. And then the last

798
00:33:39,241 --> 00:33:42,121
Speaker 2: like few days, I've been like what's going on here here?

799
00:33:42,201 --> 00:33:43,761
Speaker 2: And I've really started to kind of bring it all

800
00:33:43,761 --> 00:33:46,481
Speaker 2: back in and like, Okay, I need to keep connecting

801
00:33:46,521 --> 00:33:49,001
Speaker 2: to myself so I can be her best mum and

802
00:33:49,041 --> 00:33:50,641
Speaker 2: support her in the best way and not just like

803
00:33:50,721 --> 00:33:52,721
Speaker 2: cover everything up with extra things.

804
00:33:52,801 --> 00:33:55,121
Speaker 1: And energetically too. It's hard for you to show up

805
00:33:55,161 --> 00:33:56,601
Speaker 1: if your cup's empty, yeah.

806
00:33:56,441 --> 00:33:59,281
Speaker 2: But it's easier to like mentally sometimes like keep plotting

807
00:33:59,281 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: along when you keep like putting distractions in front of you,

808
00:34:01,481 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: so like I'm not having to deal with it, not

809
00:34:02,721 --> 00:34:04,721
Speaker 2: having deal with it, like yeah, you know, but yeah,

810
00:34:04,721 --> 00:34:07,161
Speaker 2: it's been to tears that first couple of weeks. Like

811
00:34:07,201 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: I was said to ask you to cry like five

812
00:34:08,481 --> 00:34:10,161
Speaker 2: times a day. She's just like an each your appointment

813
00:34:10,161 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: you go to, like you nearly feel like you're like

814
00:34:12,921 --> 00:34:14,921
Speaker 2: bad mouthing your kid, And I feel like it is

815
00:34:14,921 --> 00:34:16,801
Speaker 2: time that needs to be spoken about as well, but

816
00:34:16,961 --> 00:34:19,041
Speaker 2: it needs to happen. But like Kurt and I both

817
00:34:19,081 --> 00:34:21,881
Speaker 2: walked away and were like that was horrible, Like the

818
00:34:21,961 --> 00:34:24,361
Speaker 2: questions I asked, like just like all of her worst

819
00:34:24,401 --> 00:34:27,041
Speaker 2: traits because they need to try to get to a diagnosis.

820
00:34:27,041 --> 00:34:30,121
Speaker 2: She's trying to understand this, so you're highlighting it and

821
00:34:30,161 --> 00:34:33,001
Speaker 2: having to say like all the yeah, and I feels

822
00:34:33,001 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: like we both just felt like and it's what Kurt

823
00:34:34,481 --> 00:34:36,401
Speaker 2: said to me. He's like, I feel so shit saying

824
00:34:36,401 --> 00:34:38,201
Speaker 2: it because she's like she's the best little girl, like

825
00:34:38,241 --> 00:34:41,361
Speaker 2: she's an actual angel, and I hate being there and

826
00:34:41,441 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: having to like pick apart. So I'm kind of glad

827
00:34:44,481 --> 00:34:46,801
Speaker 2: like that part's done, Like we've gone through that now.

828
00:34:46,841 --> 00:34:48,001
Speaker 2: So that's why I said to Kinm, like we don't

829
00:34:48,001 --> 00:34:49,921
Speaker 2: have to do that anymore. Like we've got our team

830
00:34:49,961 --> 00:34:51,881
Speaker 2: of people and we've gone through the chat with each

831
00:34:51,921 --> 00:34:54,361
Speaker 2: of them. Now it's just like how can we support her?

832
00:34:54,761 --> 00:34:56,481
Speaker 1: Thank goodness, it is a lot.

833
00:34:56,361 --> 00:34:59,281
Speaker 2: Hey life, You're just like always throwing random things that

834
00:34:59,321 --> 00:35:01,441
Speaker 2: are coming up. But that's just part of the journey,

835
00:35:01,521 --> 00:35:04,081
Speaker 2: and you know, like I've just got to keep remembering

836
00:35:04,121 --> 00:35:06,481
Speaker 2: that it's happening for us for some sort of reason,

837
00:35:06,601 --> 00:35:09,721
Speaker 2: like obviously I'm supposed to be her support person and

838
00:35:09,881 --> 00:35:11,721
Speaker 2: be there for her. And she's supposed to be teaching

839
00:35:11,801 --> 00:35:14,041
Speaker 2: me some sort of lesson and for.

840
00:35:14,001 --> 00:35:17,241
Speaker 1: A high purpose. That's everyone. That's it. She'll do something

841
00:35:17,281 --> 00:35:19,321
Speaker 1: really big one day, Like she'll definitely be some sort

842
00:35:19,321 --> 00:35:22,721
Speaker 1: of healer or she'll speak on stages. Yeah, she'll do

843
00:35:22,801 --> 00:35:24,401
Speaker 1: something really big with it, and it all because of

844
00:35:24,521 --> 00:35:27,321
Speaker 1: this journey that she's going on. You know, it's also

845
00:35:27,361 --> 00:35:29,561
Speaker 1: really valid to just be like, fuck, this feels a lot,

846
00:35:29,641 --> 00:35:32,321
Speaker 1: this feels heavy, this is sad, this sucks, like why us,

847
00:35:32,361 --> 00:35:34,401
Speaker 1: Like you're allowed to have those moments as well, and

848
00:35:34,441 --> 00:35:37,761
Speaker 1: even the distraction of work, like there's many ways that

849
00:35:37,801 --> 00:35:40,121
Speaker 1: we cope and some days that's what you might need.

850
00:35:40,441 --> 00:35:42,081
Speaker 1: Some days you might need to distract.

851
00:35:42,441 --> 00:35:44,561
Speaker 2: And I reverted back to alcohol, saying ashally, I was like,

852
00:35:44,801 --> 00:35:46,601
Speaker 2: not proud of myself and like this is just me

853
00:35:46,641 --> 00:35:49,161
Speaker 2: having a vulnerable moment, being vulnerable on the podcast. But yeah,

854
00:35:49,201 --> 00:35:50,921
Speaker 2: that was another thing too. I was like I don't

855
00:35:50,921 --> 00:35:52,281
Speaker 2: want to feel all of this and I don't want

856
00:35:52,321 --> 00:35:54,401
Speaker 2: to think about it, especially while in the unknown and

857
00:35:54,481 --> 00:35:57,281
Speaker 2: not knowing. But I've stopped that now. Like my old

858
00:35:57,281 --> 00:36:00,841
Speaker 2: crutch was distraction with work and drinking and going into

859
00:36:00,841 --> 00:36:04,161
Speaker 2: my masculine and that's exactly what I did. It helps

860
00:36:04,201 --> 00:36:06,801
Speaker 2: you cope feel safe when I got pushed to that

861
00:36:06,841 --> 00:36:08,321
Speaker 2: point of being like, oh my god, I don't feel

862
00:36:08,321 --> 00:36:09,801
Speaker 2: safe anymore. It's like what can I do. It's like

863
00:36:09,841 --> 00:36:10,921
Speaker 2: go back to your old ways.

864
00:36:10,921 --> 00:36:13,361
Speaker 1: And it puts you in control. I control work, and

865
00:36:13,361 --> 00:36:15,281
Speaker 1: I control this and that, Like that does make you

866
00:36:15,361 --> 00:36:17,721
Speaker 1: feel safe here, whereas all this stuff kind of almost

867
00:36:17,721 --> 00:36:20,281
Speaker 1: feels like a bit out of your control. Definitely, all

868
00:36:20,321 --> 00:36:22,281
Speaker 1: you can do, which the feminine is, is all about

869
00:36:22,321 --> 00:36:25,281
Speaker 1: surrendering and trusting, Trusting in yourself, trusting in her that

870
00:36:25,361 --> 00:36:29,481
Speaker 1: she's got this and it's got this, Trusting the medical team, yeah,

871
00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:31,681
Speaker 1: trusting in the school, trusting in the journey, trusting in

872
00:36:31,721 --> 00:36:35,321
Speaker 1: your family, dynamic, your unit, you container that you've held

873
00:36:35,361 --> 00:36:37,081
Speaker 1: for her, like, trusting in all of it.

874
00:36:37,241 --> 00:36:39,241
Speaker 2: And yeah, the school thing's just such a fine line

875
00:36:39,241 --> 00:36:41,921
Speaker 2: as well, which we will chat more about. But sometimes

876
00:36:41,961 --> 00:36:44,361
Speaker 2: as well, when you take kids completely out of situations,

877
00:36:44,921 --> 00:36:47,361
Speaker 2: it can make it worse for them if they're struggling

878
00:36:47,401 --> 00:36:49,881
Speaker 2: in that way, because then they're not even having.

879
00:36:49,601 --> 00:36:51,961
Speaker 1: To they're not exposed, they're not exposed to it.

880
00:36:52,041 --> 00:36:54,441
Speaker 2: So it's just a fine line. We're walking and you know,

881
00:36:54,441 --> 00:36:56,841
Speaker 2: we're so open to whatever we need to do, but

882
00:36:57,401 --> 00:36:59,201
Speaker 2: I just want to make sure that I'm not rushing

883
00:36:59,241 --> 00:37:02,361
Speaker 2: to do anything the way and just make exploring all

884
00:37:02,401 --> 00:37:04,241
Speaker 2: options and you know what, whatever's meant to be will

885
00:37:04,241 --> 00:37:06,321
Speaker 2: pop up. I'm not going to be the perfect mum,

886
00:37:06,361 --> 00:37:08,121
Speaker 2: but I'm just trying the best to juggle it all.

887
00:37:08,201 --> 00:37:10,561
Speaker 1: Right now, all you can do is do the best.

888
00:37:10,681 --> 00:37:11,761
Speaker 2: That's kind of the update.

889
00:37:11,921 --> 00:37:14,881
Speaker 1: Well, hope you guys enjoyed the episode. Big catch up, Yeah,

890
00:37:15,041 --> 00:37:18,801
Speaker 1: quite vulnerable open. We do have some exciting things coming

891
00:37:18,881 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: up for Grow and Glow. We're planning our very first

892
00:37:21,001 --> 00:37:23,281
Speaker 1: live event. It will be right here in Brisbane, which

893
00:37:23,361 --> 00:37:26,801
Speaker 1: is really exciting. Don't have dates yet, but we're hoping

894
00:37:26,841 --> 00:37:28,561
Speaker 1: by the end of the year, which is really really cool.

895
00:37:28,841 --> 00:37:31,201
Speaker 1: And we have a new product coming out Wi's really exciting.

896
00:37:31,841 --> 00:37:34,561
Speaker 1: Stay tuned to our social media find out what it is.

897
00:37:34,721 --> 00:37:36,161
Speaker 2: So freaking cool cool.

898
00:37:36,241 --> 00:37:38,401
Speaker 1: And along with that same date of release, we'll be

899
00:37:38,441 --> 00:37:41,721
Speaker 1: doing a restock of our Grow and Glow Healing journal.

900
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Speaker 2: Yeah, bring it on, bring it on. Yeah, if you

901
00:37:44,041 --> 00:37:46,561
Speaker 2: guys haven't left a review as well, lift you make

902
00:37:46,601 --> 00:37:48,721
Speaker 2: sure you follow come over to the forum.

903
00:37:48,801 --> 00:37:50,961
Speaker 1: Yes, If you love the episode, pop it up in

904
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Speaker 1: your story, share with your friends and family. It really

905
00:37:52,761 --> 00:37:53,641
Speaker 1: helps support us.

906
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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, guys, we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye,