1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Who are you going to call? Apparently Jujo Martin, who 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: ghostbusted his way to victory after not so victorious Saturday 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: sprint left the Spaniard haunted by racing's pass. I'm your host, 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Rinita Vanmuellen, and joining me is the man who doesn't 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: need a proton pack to capture Moto GP's wildest moment, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Matt Clayton. Matt, the Indonesian Grand Prix was a wild ride. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Sure was. 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: And now you've gone with the Ghostbusters theme here, Ranta. 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: I've got the was it Ray Parker Junior, I've got 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: this song stuck in my head down anyway, visions of 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 3: Bill Murray and all sorts of going through. Well, I'm 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: going to call Bill Murray because at least you're guaranteed 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: to laugh at Bill's on the other end of the line. 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 3: But I look at was it was really really another 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: bizarre chapter in this bizarre world. Champion Jim meant that 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: Juje Martin had a few demons to put to bed 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: after what happened in the sprint at Mandalika on Saturday, 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: which of course came after what he'd done in the 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: Grand Prix Atmandalica twelve months earlier, but responded pretty emphatically 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: and yeah, lost a few wants of his championship lead, 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: but he can afford to lose a few. And here 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: we are twenty one point lead, five rounds to go. 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: He's got it in his hands. But as we've said 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: numerous times on this podcast this year, I don't know 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: if I trust either of these guys to win this 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: World Championship. It might come down to who loses it. 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: Oh. 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: I just thought it was so funny that after Saturday's 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: sprint when jo Hey crash, Peco came out after and said, yeah, 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: he was going to win the race by five seconds 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: or four seconds, and then you could see that now 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: the mind games are starting to come in between the 33 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: two because he responded with I didn't even know what happened, 34 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: but then went on to win Sunday's race with such 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: a big margin that I think, Okay, it's going to 36 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: start to come on track and off track now right. 37 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: There's definitely a psychological element to this, which I love 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: with these two because I think they come at it 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: from two completely different angles. And spoiler alert, I am 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: going to be riding on this for Fox Sports at 41 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: some point in the next twenty four hours and that 42 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: they're both trying to get to the same place, but 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: they approach it from completely different points of view. And 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: whereas Jorge will do the upturned palms, I don't know 45 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: how it all went so wrong, whereas Peco will try 46 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: and sort of intellectualize what happened and come up with 47 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: some sort of rational reason behind it. They've got these 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: completely divergent personalities, but they're trying to do the same thing, 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: which I think is what makes it so interesting. But 50 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: the one thing they are sharing this year is jeez, 51 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: they know how to throw away points from positions of advantage, 52 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: don't they. My goodness, my god. 53 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: But also an Aabashanini, I feel like we're just going 54 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: to be jumping from crash to crash because there was 55 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: like nine crashes and only twelve finishes in this weekend race. 56 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: So an Abashanini tuck in the front when he was 57 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: clearly on point to take a podium position. Do you 58 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: think that that crash was just from a build up 59 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: of confidence? And look at me, go. 60 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: I really don't. I mean, we know how naa race is. 61 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: At this point, he's like this classic slow burn and 62 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: he always comes to the boil late in races, but 63 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 3: that felt like there were still so many laps left 64 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: to go in that race, and he had such pace 65 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: that I dare say he would have finished second at worst, 66 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: and it may well have could have been another fight 67 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: for the victory with Martine and Bastideni, as it was 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: the previous weekend at Messano. But yeah, I mean you 69 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 3: mentioned a race punctuated by crashes. I did read earlier 70 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 3: that we had twelve finishes on Sunday. That's the fewest 71 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: in a Premier class race since twenty eleven, and it 72 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: felt like it at the time. I mean, it doesn't 73 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 3: help when four of them go out on the first lap, 74 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: which I'm sure we'll get to later on in this podcast, 75 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: but yeah, just twelve finishes only twenty one starters, of course, 76 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: because Michael Olivera didn't make it as far as the start, 77 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: but it did seem like if you stayed on your 78 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: bike you were going to get points, and not just 79 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: one or two. There were some decent points on offer 80 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: if you just managed to finish the race. 81 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, the people like, my mind's just gone completely blank. 82 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go to Joan Zako because he's 83 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: one who really I would say he's my writer of 84 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: the weekend this weekend because Zako, right, we don't get 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: to talk about him too often because he's usually down 86 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: the back of the field, and even if he is 87 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: scoring points is like a big deal. But narrowly missed 88 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Q two on Friday, made it out of Q one 89 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: on Saturday, qualified seventh, finished eighth in the Sprint and 90 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 1: ninth in the Grand Prix, and marked Honda's first Sprint 91 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: Grand Prix points double of the season. That's big going 92 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: for Zako and for Honda. 93 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, super impressive the entire weekend, and this has been 94 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: coming a little bit over the past couple of rounds. 95 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: He was pretty decent Massano as well, and of the 96 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: four guys on the Honda, for me, he seems to 97 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: be the guy who understands when the limit of the 98 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: bike is and is coming closest to you know, teetering 99 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: on the edge but not falling off. Whereas I think 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 3: you look at the other guys on Honda's, Luca Marine 101 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: is usually so far from the limit because he's in 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: sort of self preservation mode at this point, so he 103 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: never quite has that performance. And you've got to admire 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: the guy's t nacity. He's usually railing against the limits 105 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: of the machine, saying no, I can push this, I 106 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: can push this, I can push this, And then the 107 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: graphic comes up on screen. It says jo had mere 108 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: crash rider. Okay, so he's the one that steps over 109 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: the limit. So Zako's found the sweet spot now of 110 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: knowing where the limit is and not being tempted to 111 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: push past that. And yeah, it's looking really good for him. 112 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 3: The last couple of rounds super impressive of the entire weekend. 113 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: And what was interesting is that he had that moment 114 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: of clarity on Sunday. I was listening to his post 115 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: race debrief where he said, I could have pushed for more, 116 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 3: but there's a point that you don't want to crash 117 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: from a top ten position on a Honda. There was 118 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: nothing to be gained there. He was pretty safely there. 119 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: Bring the bike home, take the points, take the progress, 120 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: and move on. So good ride for him. And yeah, 121 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: this must be some sort of record, because I think 122 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: we're thirteen podcasts in and this to the earliest we've 123 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: ever spoken about Honda. 124 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: I reckon and I like that we're talking about it 125 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: in a positive light because it is so easy to say, oh, 126 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: another terrible weekend. Honder, another terrible weekend. It's like, cool, Okay, 127 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: we're signing to see you know, Fabio once again. He 128 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: was in Q two. He's getting up close to the 129 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: front to see a Honda there. It's like, cool, this 130 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: isn't just a ju Catti dominated championship anymore. There's a 131 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: little hinge of the Japanese manufacturers coming through. 132 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, for the first time this year. I think you 133 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: could say there's actual genuine optimism for both of the 134 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: Japanese manufacturers, mostly for yamaharaver Honda, because Kuaatearo was again 135 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: outstanding on the weekend, as he was at the second 136 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 3: Massana around. But yeah, nice to see Zako in the mix, 137 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: and just about coming up on the one year anniversary 138 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: of his first Grand Prix win here in Australia, of course. 139 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: So nice Tommy, very nice timing. But Coudura, I want 140 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: to talk on that because it seemed like he's fast 141 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: on those single laps that we notice he's getting into 142 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: Q two, qualified on the second row of the grid, 143 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: But it seems like there's still just that little thing 144 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: missing in the race, you know. P twelve in the sprint, 145 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: and thanks to all the crashes and the incidents which 146 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: we'll talk about, he got seventh in the Grand Prix, 147 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: But I feel like if that hadn't happened, he would 148 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: be much further down the field. Is in his post 149 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: three debrief is he talking about is there areas where 150 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: the Yamaha still is lacking quite a bit. 151 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 3: It's still straight line speed for that bike, and you 152 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: can see it with the speed trap figures. They're always 153 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: down the bottom of the speed trap figures every weekend, 154 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: and that's dictating the way he has to race at 155 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: the moment, because he's having to risk so much more 156 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: in the breaking zones to try and make passes and 157 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: almost block pass his way through because on the straight 158 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter how good of an exit he gets. 159 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: That bike is still clearly the slowest in a straight 160 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: line of any bike in the field, So he's having 161 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: to probably ride a little bit differently than he'd like 162 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: to try and make up for that in the corners. 163 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: But you've got to admire the way the guy has 164 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: gone about it. And I mean, I think that's three 165 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: races in a row now where you could say, yeah, 166 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: Yamaha was decent. You know, there's some progress being made there, 167 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: and with that second team coming in next year, with 168 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: Pramahar of course, and the rider lineup they've got, it's 169 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: all pretty optimistic for them at the moment. 170 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: But I'm not sure you. 171 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: Could have another rider on the grid that could get 172 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: more out of what he's doing with that bike at 173 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: the moment. I just think he's doing a really, really 174 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: solid job. 175 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: For those of you playing along at home to the 176 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: drinking game of whenever we say Pramahas take a shot, 177 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: there you go. Done. 178 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: The only difference this week I did it before you, 179 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: so you've traded me. 180 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: Well, well, if you can't tell, there's so much to 181 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: discuss in this week's pod, and we are kind of 182 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: going all over the shot because it really was a 183 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: wild ride this weekend. Let's talk about Pedro Acosta qualified 184 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: third in the sprint, finished sixth, but then third on Sunday. 185 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: But then the podium situation was linked to that tire 186 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: pressure penalty possibility, so you could see that it was 187 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: just not a fun time for Pedro being on the 188 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: podium or even in the little room where they're chilling 189 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: out before where he was just fine to be belching 190 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: on live television. 191 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: That was interesting when that went out on motor TP 192 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: social media the next day, they managed to either mute 193 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: or remove the burbing, which was amusing. But it was 194 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: in the end he was able to keep that second place, 195 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: and it was a bit of a shame that he 196 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: and Katim didn't get to celebrate that at the time, 197 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: because it was a genuinely outstanding race weekend for him, 198 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: his best result since back in Round three at the Americas, 199 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: which seems like an absolute eternity you go now, but 200 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 3: this wasn't a result that lent itself to any rain 201 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: or bizarre circumstances or anything else. He was just genuinely 202 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: on the pace at the entire weekend. Got a little 203 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: bit beaten up in the sprint, but in the race 204 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 3: he never showed a wheel to Juge Martin up front, 205 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: but he also didn't let him relax. And you know, 206 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: that final winning marginal I think was one point four 207 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: seconds and it wasn't really in doubt for Martin, but 208 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: a cost to put the pressure on and I think 209 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: that's all you can do when you're on a bike. 210 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: That's not a DICTI at least make the guys up 211 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: the front think about it. We've seen both Martin and 212 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: Banyai crashing the lead of races so far this year. 213 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: So outstanding result for him and definitely something that Katie 214 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: m needed. It does make you wonder what's going on 215 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: with the other riders in that stable because it's really 216 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: not going brilliantly at the moment for them. But through 217 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 3: hit weekend for him and GC brings some energy when 218 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: he's at the front of races. And the good thing 219 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: I think for Motor GP fans is this is something 220 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 3: we're going to see for years and years to come. 221 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: I think he's back where he belongs. And you know, 222 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: he said he was sort of dreaming of a win 223 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: that was, you know, maybe a little bit too far fetched. 224 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: But you do wonder if these next five rounds now. 225 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he is mathematically eliminated from the championship there. 226 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: There's actually only four of them that can win it 227 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: at this point. But I don't think that's the last 228 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: time we see him on a podium this year. It's 229 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: just a genuinely outstanding weekend and you can see the 230 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: respect he's got from all of the front running guys 231 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: who've been in it for a long time already, because 232 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's surprised when he does this anymore, 233 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: and you know, you forget sometimes he's a twenty year 234 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: old kid still massively impressive. 235 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: Oh rookie year, first time at this track on a 236 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Grand Prix bike. Like, the things that this kid is 237 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: doing and the places he's going to go is going 238 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: to be really exciting to watch. And I know everyone 239 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: said it, but it is like when Marquez came to 240 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: Moto GP all those years ago. It's nice and it 241 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: brings something new because we are kind of missing the storyline, 242 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: like I've said previously, of I guess the on track drama. 243 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: As much as I love the fact that, you know, 244 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Peco and Jorgey kind of did the little hug up 245 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: in Park Firm May after Sunday's race and you can 246 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: see the respect there, we aren't getting that like old 247 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: school rivalry. So it's nice to see something exciting like 248 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: Pedro coming through. But for katm not the weekend obviously 249 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: that Brad Bender and Jack Miller wanted. And it's interesting. 250 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: We know Jack's leaving, we know Brad's still staying there. 251 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: Pedro's moving into the factory team. But I just keep 252 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: thinking in the back of my head, what does this 253 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: mean for Brad? Does he feel like there's going to 254 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: be a lot of extra pressure next year. 255 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: I think there's a huge chance that by this time 256 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: next year, And this is not spect to Brad Bender, 257 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: who's a very, very good Grand Prix rider, but there's 258 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: an opportunity here for for a Costa to go in 259 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: and become the man in this team. And it's just 260 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: crying out for someone to come in and take the 261 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: leadership of the team. And obviously we'll probably touch on 262 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: a little bit later there's been a management reshuffle there, 263 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: but that's a factory influx at the moment, and they 264 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: are primed, to my mind, to be the candidate to 265 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: sort of become that best of the rest. A prially 266 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: is sort of floundering a little bit. They've got a 267 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: super yew rider line up next year, as we know. 268 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, interesting times in at Katim. But you can't 269 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: help but think that a cost has just got World 270 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: championships plural in his future. You know, I don't know 271 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 3: how many there are, but if you were to say 272 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: to me, are there, you know, take the over under 273 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: on three World championships before Pedro Acosta's finished in Motor GP. 274 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: I'd probably take you know, I'd probably take the over 275 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 3: just because to me, he's that good. He is this 276 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: generation's Marqueers, and if Katim can give him the equipment, 277 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: I don't think is he doubting the guy's quality. 278 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about katm and let's stick with Jack Miller 279 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: because he was involved in that multi rider crash that 280 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: included four riders. So we had Alex Marquez, Alasia Spargaro, 281 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: Luca Marini and obviously Jack Miller. And Jack said in 282 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: the post race that it was his fault. I think 283 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: he grabbed a bit too much front break by the looks, 284 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: stood the bike up and then obviously ran off track, 285 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: taking out a few other riders. It's so hard because 286 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: obviously we hate seeing this. But is this a Jack 287 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: Miller that's just trying to finish up with katm and 288 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: start again, or do you think it was just purely 289 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: a rasing mistake. 290 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: Before I go down that rabbit hole, I'm going to 291 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: do a straw pole here with you. Shouldn't have been 292 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: a penalty or not? 293 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts, By the looks of it, the 294 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: track looks so tight and that's they're going into that 295 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: Chicuane straight away that it's kind of like, whoa could 296 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: cause this sort of crash? So do you just accept 297 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: it that these sorts of crash could happen when there's 298 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people there? Now, I guess that's my 299 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: take on it. 300 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's kind of where the stewards 301 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: ended up with it, because if you look at the 302 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: replays of the accident, Jack's on the inside going in 303 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: a turn three. He slightly checks up because he's side 304 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: by side with Alasias Spargo. He slightly checks up because 305 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: of the line that Maverick Vinalez takes in front of him, 306 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: and he loses the front and the bike crashes. But 307 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: of course because he's on the inside of the corner, 308 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: the bike washes through the outside of the corner, takes 309 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: out of Spargo, takes out Marini, and takes out who's 310 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: the other rider that I have completely Elisias Bargo and 311 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: Alex Marquez and Luca Marini. Yes, that's right, And so 312 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: the fact that there wasn't a penalty, I wasn't I 313 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: thought it was actually all right. As bad as it 314 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: was that four of them were out on the first 315 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: lap because I know we're clutching at straws here. Jack 316 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: didn't take the other three riders out. Jack's bike did, 317 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: and there's a difference. He didn't hit anybody and cause 318 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: the concertina effect. He'd had his own accident and unfortunately 319 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: the result of that own accident ended the races as 320 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: three other rivals. So and he also put his hand 321 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: up and was pretty contrite about it. It was there's 322 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: no way you could have argued that it wasn't his fault. 323 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: The other writers just shrugged their shoulders. At least they 324 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: accepted the apology and said, it's just the first lap. 325 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: It's just what happens. But in terms of the rest 326 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: of this year, it's kind of got that feeling now 327 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: that it's like anyone who has quit a job that 328 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: is serving out there one week, two weeks, one month notice, 329 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: whatever it might be. It's got a bit of that 330 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: about it now, in that both parties have decided that 331 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: they're not going to continue. Jack's known this for a 332 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: fair while. He's also got twenty twenty five sorted now, 333 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: which I think adds a different dynamic into the mix 334 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: in that he knows that in five rounds time. He's 335 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: not going to be writing for KTM anymore, and it's 336 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: not like he's finishing up or he's going to another series. 337 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: He knows he'll be back in Moto GP with a 338 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: different manufacturer and a different team next year. So he's 339 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: the equivalent of the guy serving out notice at his 340 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: current job. He said on Sunday that the accident was 341 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: one thing, but the onus is on him to not 342 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: be so far down on the grid because you know, 343 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: you look at the first lap, the TV shot always 344 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: focuses on the riders at the front, as it should, 345 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: but you get past about P eight, p ten in 346 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: that pack, it's madness back there, And partly because the 347 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: machinery is so competitive, but also partly because I think 348 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: the riders now know that it's so hard to pass 349 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: in races that you can make heaps of places up 350 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: on the first lap if you're super aggressive, because the 351 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: races tend to settle into a rhythm after that because 352 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: overtaking is difficult. So I reckon there's more risks being 353 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: taken in the midpack now than there's ever been, and 354 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: it's kind of amazing that we don't have more incidents 355 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: like this on the first lap, particularly with the nature 356 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: of some of these tracks, but that first sector at 357 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: Mandalika series of switchbacks, not a lot of room there. 358 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: And the fact that if Jacket had that accident on 359 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 3: the outside and taking himself out and skittled across the 360 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: gravel there, then he's the only one that's out of 361 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: the race. The fact that happened on the inside, that 362 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: he was pinched against the curb and then lost front. 363 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: It was unfortunate, but it just turned into a game 364 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 3: of dominoes after that, and a few of these, a 365 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: few of his peers would just unlucky to be in 366 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: the wrong place at the wrong time. 367 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: I guess we spoke about qualifying, and because I want 368 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: to touch on that a little bit, is we saw 369 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: Peco Banyaya qualifier on the second row of the grid. 370 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: But it seems like he's really struggling with his starts 371 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: at the moment. And I guess my question to you 372 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: is is this what is going to maybe cause Peco 373 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: to possibly lose the championship. Is it just the lack 374 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: of studs or do you think that the lack of 375 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: the start and that the troubles there is the pressure 376 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: getting to him. 377 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the pressure as such. He 378 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: I don't think he's impervious to pressure. I think it 379 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: just probably manifests itself in different ways with him that 380 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: you're right about he starts. I mean, you think back 381 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: to the last couple of rounds, you know, particularly I'm 382 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: thinking Massano, where Martin was awesome off the start at Massano, 383 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 3: he was pretty good on the weekend from Pole. But 384 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: of the two of them, you would suspect that Martine's 385 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: probably going to qualify the better of the two across 386 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: these next five rounds. And because we've got the sprints, 387 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: it's ten race starts, and you would probably back Martine 388 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: to get the majority of those, right. Bannon starts have 389 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 3: been an issue now for a while, and he's having 390 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: these curious races that we saw this a bit on Sunday, 391 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: just as we'd seen the previous Sunday at Massano. The 392 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: start gets off the line pretty slowly first few laps, 393 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: so so it takes him a while to build the 394 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: tire temperature that he wants to have the confidence to 395 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 3: really push. And then what we saw at Mandalika on 396 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: Sunday is he got stuck behind some other deucaddies, and 397 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: when you're riding against guys who are from the same factory, 398 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: whether it's the GP twenty four or the GP twenty three, 399 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: they both have their different strengths. He knows what he's 400 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: fighting against. You're dealing with saw in front tire pressures, 401 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: so it takes him a while to get back to 402 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 3: probably where he should be finishing, and so on Sunday, 403 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: you'd say third is probably the best things could have 404 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: got given how bad the start was. But it wasn't 405 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: even a super competitive third, in that he was a 406 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: fair way away from second. Martin was pretty untroubled upfront. 407 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: And the difference this year compared to the last, of course, 408 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: is that he's not the writer in the ascendancy. And 409 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: I was looking at this before. We've got five rounds 410 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 3: to go. Martin has a twenty one point championship lead. 411 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: We're five rounds to go. Last year, Bagya, I had 412 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: an eighteen point championship lead. So we've had that many 413 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 3: crashes and weird twists and turns this year, but we've 414 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: kind of ended up in the same statistical place as 415 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 3: we were twelve months ago. It's just at this time, 416 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: Peco is the hunter rather is hunting rather than being hunted. 417 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: That's the difference between the two. But these starts, you know, 418 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: it's becoming an issue now because once or twice a 419 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: season you can shrug your shoulders and say, Okay, it's 420 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: going to happen. It's happening too regularly, and he's putting 421 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: himself on the back foot and giving himself too. 422 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: Much to do. 423 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: And I don't about you, but the whole season I've 424 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: been thinking this still feels like Bangya's title to lose. 425 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: I trust him more to deliver when it comes down 426 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: to the crunch that twenty one point deficit. Now he's 427 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: not on this super tight rope yet because there's still 428 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty five points to play for, but 429 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 3: one more D and F at this point for Banyaya. 430 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 3: How costly is that going to be? Because I don't 431 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: think he's going to be in control anymore now. The 432 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: flip side to that is you've got to trust Martine 433 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 3: to capitalize on the advantage that he has. But these 434 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: starts are an area that he definitely needs to clean 435 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 3: up because we're getting to the point now where one 436 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: or two more bad starts could have pretty severe consequences. 437 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: I reckon, Oh, definitely. I think that it's going to 438 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: be really interesting to see now where we're at this point. 439 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: It's a sticky point, I guess where it really could 440 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: go either way. And they're kind of hoping that either 441 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: they can maximize or the weaknesses they can strengthen, or 442 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: the other person will make a mistake and their weaknesses 443 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: become too weak and they you know, crash out of front. 444 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: So it's this game of cat and mouse where they're like, 445 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: I need to better myself, but also I don't want 446 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: the other one to keep bettering themselves. 447 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's got this sort of narrative about it 448 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: now where I feel this championship might be won by 449 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: the rider who makes the fewest mistakes rather than just 450 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 3: outrightly goes out there and wins it. It's got that 451 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: sort of feel about it. And I think we'll look 452 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: back at this season and think about the points that 453 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: both of these championship protagonists have thrown away from advantageous 454 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: positions in. 455 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: The lead or on podiums. 456 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: It'll come down to who loses the least, if. 457 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 458 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is necessarily going to be 459 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 3: one of these two saying, right, grab this thing by 460 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: the horns in the next five rounds and clear off. 461 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be determined by who makes 462 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 3: the fewest mistakes. And you've now got this other factor 463 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: now that the pressure will start to ramp up as 464 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: this advantage that Martin has maintains. And look, you know 465 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: Baanyai took three points out of him over the course 466 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: of the Mandalika weekend for all those twists and turns, 467 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: with the Sprint and the Grand Prix. Three points a weekend. 468 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: Is it enough now for Banyaya? Because if it's only 469 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: three once a weekend, he does not win the World Championship. 470 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: So you know it's it's on Martin's racket to use 471 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: a tennis term. But I'm having trust issues with both 472 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: of these guys this year, and you can't help but wonder, like, 473 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: so Bastiunini and Marquees. Now you know they're mathematically still 474 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 3: in it, but we know they're pretty much out of it. 475 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: Crash with Bastunini, engine failure for Marquees on Sunday at Mandalika. 476 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: This seems to be a season that those two must 477 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 3: be thinking. Man, these two up the front, have left 478 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 3: so many opportunities for us to be right in the 479 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: championship fight until the end, and we haven't taken advantage 480 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: of that. So it's a bit of an opportunity lost 481 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: for them because I think both Banyara and Martin have 482 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: left the door open enough that there probably should be 483 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 3: more than just those two in. 484 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: The mix, I think for Mark, and I was just 485 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: thinking that, oh, we haven't touched on Mark Marquez this 486 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: weekend because there's been so much other interesting and exciting 487 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: things happening. But Marks Mike caught on fire this weekend, 488 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: still manage you get third in the sprint. Obviously, if 489 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: that technical the engine didn't blow and he didn't have 490 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: that fight, I think that we'd still be saying, oh, 491 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: Mark is in the title fight right, because he would 492 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: have been on the podium it. You know, it would 493 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: have been a lot closer, and I think as frustrating 494 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: as it it possibly is, I think Marcez, knowing that 495 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: he's going to the Factory team next year, when I 496 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: read an article saying that, he was like, you know, 497 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the team because it's an expensive 498 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: thing to replace, Like an engine blowing up, You're like, okay, cool. 499 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: He knows that maybe this year he could have potentially, 500 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, fought for the title a bit more, even 501 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: possibly won it or come second. But he's using it 502 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: as a learning year. I think now he's maybe accepted 503 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: that and gone, Okay, next year, I'm really going to focus. 504 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, other than whoever wins the World Championship, I think 505 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 3: to me, he's almost the biggest winner of this year, 506 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: whether he finishes third or fourth in the championship. And 507 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 3: when you're a six top world champion in murdor GP, 508 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: finishing third or fourth isn't going to exactly get you 509 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: that excited. But for me, his biggest victories this year 510 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: is he's got himself in bettered into Jucaddi and he 511 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 3: now knows how it works, and he's managed to win 512 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 3: a couple of Grand Prix already. So there's not going 513 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: to be that go to the factory team. So when 514 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: are you going to win your first race on a 515 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 3: Ducaddi marketing, We've already answered that that box has been 516 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: ticked already. So for mine, he knows he's still got 517 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: the speed. He still manages to conjure these crazy podiums 518 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 3: out of terrible qualifyings and we're almost taking it for 519 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: granted now, and that he's come from outside the top 520 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: ten again and finished. 521 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: On the podium in a sprint. 522 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: To my mind, I reckon that's at least four times 523 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: off the top of my head, without really diving into 524 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: the stats, that he's done that this year. If any 525 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: other rider did that once, we'd be carrying on about 526 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: it like it was the greatest thing ever. And we 527 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: almost take his ability on first laps for granted. The 528 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: replay of the first lap of the sprint was just 529 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 3: comical with the way he picked his way through to 530 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 3: get himself in the top five after one corner. So 531 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: it's been a really successful year for him. But the 532 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: narrative of next year, I love this for next year 533 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: because he's either going to be going in to a 534 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: team where Banyai is a three time running world champion, 535 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: or he's going to be going into a team where 536 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: Banyaya is going to be chasing from losing the title 537 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: to Martin. And now he's got this force coming in 538 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: on the same bike on the other side of the garage. 539 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: It's going to be so good. I'm really looking forward 540 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: to see how these last five rounds of this year ago, 541 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: but twenty twenty five, Like, I'm literally rubbing my hairs 542 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: together because this is going to be so much fun. 543 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: You know what I found hilarious this weekend was when 544 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: I think it was in qualifying, Peco ran out of 545 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: fuel and Marcus gave him the little toe, and I 546 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: saw some memes on social media where they're saying they've 547 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: Pecko has gone back into the pit box and it's 548 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: Peco Valentino's on the phone. He wants to know what 549 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: you're doing with the enemy. 550 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 2: That was so funny. 551 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: It just so happened to be that Marquez was the 552 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 3: nearest guy on the track after Picko and run out 553 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: of fuel. And I'm sure there's a little part of 554 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 3: Peco appreciative of the lift back to the pits as 555 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: it were, but he's probably thinking, oh man, this is 556 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: going to play out badly on. 557 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: Social media year as well. 558 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, it was very funny, and Barker's Big Markets 559 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: he would have just enjoyed. There's like some subtle trolley 560 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: guy got there as well. 561 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed that. 562 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: It was very good. I did like that, but we 563 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: touched on it earlier and I just want to clarify 564 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: I for other people listening if they're unsure. So we 565 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: had some potential high pressure penalties or infringements that got 566 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: flagged during the cool down lap of the main Grand 567 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: Prix that included Pedro Costa. Like we said earlier, Brad 568 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Binda and Taka Nakagami and I kind of mentioned it 569 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier in the fact that we saw 570 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: Pedro kind of not celebrating on the podium because unsure 571 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: of whether he was going to get that the penalty 572 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: sort of in sixteen second penalty, he would have lost 573 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: his podium position and relegated down the back of the field. 574 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 1: It's we haven't had a lot of these this year, 575 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: which has been really good. But what I think is 576 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: so frustrating is the fact that you know, these they 577 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: do the podiums and all the celebration and media and 578 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: everything straight after, yet were I'm still waiting sitting here 579 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: waiting whether you know, are they going to get relegated? 580 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: Are they not? And then they did Pedro first, which 581 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: is cool, great, but then what about Brad? And then 582 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: they did him after attack and we found out that 583 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: obviously Pedro and Brad did not get an infringement. I'm 584 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: unsure about attacker, so you can answer that one for me. 585 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: But there's so much segoes into it, and I understand that, 586 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: but as a fan of the sport and the entertainment, 587 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: it is so frustrating while you're waiting for the results massively. 588 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: So we were laughing before we came on here today 589 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: that the only good thing about there being tire pressure 590 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: investigations after the race it was happening to at six 591 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 3: pm Australian time rather than about midnight, which was a 592 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: win for anyone working on it in these parts. But 593 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 3: I'm sort of torn with this because you know, the 594 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 3: tire pressure rules are controversial, but they are there. Everyone 595 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: knows that they are there. You want to get the 596 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: results right. You don't want anyone having a position based 597 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: off something that they were doing that was illegal. Whether 598 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: that's inadvertent or whether it's intentional who it doesn't really 599 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 3: matter true. If it's illegal, it's illegal. If it crosses 600 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: the line. It's the amount of time that it takes 601 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: to process the results after the race that's the issue 602 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: for me. But by the flip side, now, the same token, 603 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: you don't want to rush this because you want to 604 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: make sure that your adjudication is one hundred percent correct. 605 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: So there's no perfect answer to this. The biggest issue 606 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: for me is, say we have a live championship decider 607 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: in Valencia, and let's say Jorge Martine crosses the line 608 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: and he's won the World Championship, and everyone puts on 609 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: the championship t shirts and we have the trophy at 610 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 3: everything else. Imagine having this looming dark cloud of all 611 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: three riders on the podium are being investigated for high 612 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: pressure penalties, and we all sit round and wait for 613 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: two hours, and so the occasion in the moment gets lost. 614 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: And I would hate for a World Championship to be 615 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: decided by a technical infringement because nobody wants to see that. 616 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: This is not how international sport generally works. We don't 617 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: want it to end this way. So it's difficult with 618 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: the timing of these things. The surprising thing for me 619 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: about you, but whenever they issue these investigations for high 620 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: pressure penalties, they're as good as a penalty normally because 621 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: you very rarely see them rescinded or taken back. So 622 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: I was actually really surprised that Acosta and Binda both 623 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: got to keep their places now. Acostas was because there 624 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: was a leaking wheel rim once they had done the tests, 625 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: which took about two hours, so at least they came 626 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: to the correct decision. But you mentioned Nakagami before. He 627 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: had a sixteen second time penalty after he had finished eleventh, 628 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: which dropped him to twelfth in the back of the 629 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: field because only twelve riders finished, so it didn't change 630 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: anyone's life. It gave him one fewer point and gave 631 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: Alex Rinns one more point. So Motor GP kind of 632 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: got away with it in Indonesia on the weekend because yeah, 633 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: it took probably far too long, but at least it 634 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: was a correct outcome. But I don't know about you. 635 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: I'm just looking at Valencia at the end of the 636 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: year going, oh, man, I really hope that if we 637 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: get a championship fight in the last round I've had 638 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: the last two years, let's settle this on track and 639 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: in a timely fashion and so we can enjoy the 640 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: moment rather than sitting there going, well, are we going 641 00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: to get penalties here? 642 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: Are we not? 643 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: There's a wider issue here with the front tier that 644 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 3: was going to be brought in for next year that 645 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: is now not because of a lack of testing and 646 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: mischell that aren't ready and the teams aren't ready. That's 647 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: almost a separate podcast series, little load of podcasts. But yeah, 648 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: it's a difficult one because it's live sport, and the 649 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 3: lasting anybody wants when they've sat and consumed a race 650 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: and enjoyed it is to find out three hours later 651 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: that the results completely different. So there's got to be 652 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: a better way. I don't know what that way is, 653 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: but the way it's being done right now, I'm not 654 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: sure is the greatest solution. 655 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: I agree, And I was just thinking that when you're 656 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: talking and going well instead of us like sitting around 657 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: waiting for results, could they not going into the following 658 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: race to the person has a long light penalty or 659 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: they have a grid a three grid position deduction or 660 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: something like that where it's like, okay, the results that 661 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: come in, you can keep whatever you've got there, but 662 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: we're going to hinder you for the next one, so 663 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: they can't have just something different. 664 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: I agree with you for ninety nine point nine percent 665 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: of the season, but what happens if it's the last round? 666 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: Then what do we do? 667 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: So you have to start from the back of the 668 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: credit man. 669 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can, you can keep your World championship. Yeah, 670 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 4: there's no And that's the issue with this is the 671 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 4: reason we talk about it, because every time you come 672 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: up with a solution or a way around it, you 673 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 4: find reasons to pick holes in it. So there's no 674 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: perfect answer with this. It's just a really difficult situation. 675 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 4: It would have been a huge injustice for the way 676 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 4: Acosta road over the weekend had he have not been 677 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 4: able to keep that podium, but neither he nor the 678 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: team particularly seemed to enjoy it at the time because 679 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: they are almost certain that they were going to get 680 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 4: pushed down to I think ninth that would have been 681 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: for a costa. So I guess all's well. That ends well, 682 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 4: but a shame for them they didn't get to celebrate 683 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 4: it properly. 684 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: Shame for them. But in big Katie m news that 685 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 1: we need to discuss, there has been some changes to management. 686 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: So good Dottie, who you quite often will hear talking 687 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: with the Krafa or any of the guys on the broadcast. 688 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: He has been replaced at the Key Factory team as 689 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: team manager and aki Io, who is the team manager 690 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: of the lawyers, ktm Io brings a bell. He's going 691 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: to step in to manage the factory team. Matt, what's 692 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this? Is this the right move by 693 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: ktm I? 694 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: Did you enjoy the fact that they sent out the 695 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: press release at Goudotti was out on Sunday while all 696 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: the Acosta Tigh pressure penalty situation was going on, talking 697 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 3: about burying the lead like the race had finished an 698 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 3: hour before, and it's like, oh, by the way, our 699 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: team managers being sacked. But it was kind of the 700 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: worst kept secret because it had been discussed openly for 701 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: a while. 702 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: The achi Io. 703 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: Appointment as team manager at KATM is really interesting to 704 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: me because he's a guy who we haven't seen him 705 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: in Motor GP, but he shaped so many of the 706 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 3: writers that have come through to Motor GP in that 707 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: he's been kind of the guy who's the king maker 708 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: in the lower classes for a long long time now, 709 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: going back as far as Mark Markers and Brad Binder. 710 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: Of course, he had Rebby Gardner take that world championship 711 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: in his Moto IWO team, and he's also been Jack 712 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 3: Miller's personal manager for the majority of Jack's Premier class career, 713 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: so super interesting that he's now stepping up to the 714 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: main game. He's got this empire of teams with Moto 715 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: two and Moto three that I'm assuming that his son 716 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: Nicky will end up runn Nicky was a writer in 717 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: his own right back in the day. But anyone that's 718 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 3: worked with Aki, and it's a cliche at a stereotype 719 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 3: with the finish in motorsport. Generally they're pretty economical with 720 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: their words. They don't necessarily have airs and grace as 721 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: it's just very matter of fact, let's just get on 722 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: with this. Here's a clear path, we need to follow. 723 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: This, go and do it. 724 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: And I can't help but wonder whether that's the right 725 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 3: thing for katm at this time, because quite frankly, Katim 726 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: has been very disappointing this year based off what they 727 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 3: did in twenty twenty twenty three. Yes, I've been quite 728 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 3: disappointing this year. No wins, only that one podium for 729 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: Brad Binder in the first racing Qatar. So I think 730 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: it can only be a positive of having someone who's 731 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 3: a straight shooter like Aki running things. And also, of 732 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: course he worked with Petro Acosta when Pedro Coosta was 733 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: in Moto II and won a World championship there. So 734 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: given what we were saying about twenty minutes ago about 735 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: a Costa, you know, KATIM becoming a Costa's team really 736 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: next year. I don't think it's a coincidence that someone 737 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 3: who's worked successfully with him in the past is coming 738 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: in to run the show. So I don't think it 739 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: can be anything but a positive appointment. 740 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: But I do wonder. 741 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 3: Whether KATM have bigger issues than simply changing the team manager, 742 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: because that's a team that has gone it's stalled out 743 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: or gone backwards this year, and that's not what KATIM 744 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 3: will want because they have aspirations for much bigger things 745 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: than that. 746 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: I think for KTM it could only help, possibly purely 747 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: because we spoke about when Ramy was on the podcast, 748 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: talking about how KATM tend to handle situations and things 749 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: or letting their writers go, and maybe because Achiio does 750 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: have quite a good relationship with a lot of these writers, 751 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: it might be handled a little bit better rather than 752 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: letting go. And we were talking off her about Daniel 753 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: Ricardo because obviously that's big news in the Formula one world, 754 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: and it seems like sometimes a katm they can just 755 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: kick someone to the curve as nicely put, maybe this 756 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: is a better way of handling situations. 757 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think they sort of their philosophy on right. 758 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 3: This is the kind of like light bulbs, like where 759 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: one doesn't work. He just done screwed and screwed you 760 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: right in there, and see how you go with that. 761 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: There's not a lot of personal touch there in the past, 762 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 3: but Aki comes in with a pretty impeccable track record. 763 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 3: He's kind of the king maker of the lower classes, 764 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 3: so definitely got the right CV for it, and it'll 765 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: be interesting to see what impact he has once he 766 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 3: gets his feet under the table for next season. 767 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: Well, so you guys are still hanging out with us, 768 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: we're going to chat about Moto too because we've got 769 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: to talk about Center. Made it into Q two, but 770 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: that early collision left him with the DNF and it 771 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: was sad because he he looked fast all weekend this 772 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: weekend Indonesia. It looked like the track suited and he 773 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: looked comfortable on the bike. I feel like he could 774 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: have been easy in a top ten for the race. 775 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: It was all very sad for Australians. 776 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 3: On Sunday, wasn't it at Mandaleka, I felt like getting 777 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 3: the violin and it was also a bit sad. The 778 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 3: good news for center Ages is he at least he 779 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: did seven more quarters than Jack Miller. We're looking for positives, 780 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 3: but now, look, it was a shame because he looked 781 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: pretty quick the entire weekend qualifying, probably a little bit 782 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 3: lower than he would have thought in sixteenth, but yeah, 783 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: got as far as turn ten and in the craziness 784 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 3: of the first lap, as we were talking about before, 785 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: his unfortunately came a cropper there. So disappointing for him. 786 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 3: But it was kind of a continuation of a theme 787 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: in that we only had one of our four rossies 788 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 3: in the World Championship score points on the weekend. 789 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: That was Joel. 790 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 3: Kelso in Moto three, and he was really really unhappy 791 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: with how that race was on Sunday for him. Finished eighth, 792 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 3: so he one point eight seconds off the wind, but 793 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 3: he said it was simply not good enough. So he said, 794 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 3: six top tens in a row, but he's just still 795 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: that little bit out of the podium fire and it 796 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: sounds like he's getting sick of vegan the main pack 797 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 3: but not taking any trophies. Home with him, but it was, 798 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 3: as I was saying before, it's just one of those 799 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 3: difficult weekends for the Aussies where he came home in eighth. 800 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 3: Jacob Rolston had another pretty messy weekend long lap penalty, 801 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: finished outside of the points in sixteenth and Herve Pontreal 802 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 3: gave him another rocket after the race, which is something 803 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 3: we talked about after Massano as well. So you had 804 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 3: the the AGSDNF, the Miller dn F and Jacob Rowlson 805 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 3: missing the points. That was a Joel Kelso flying the 806 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 3: flag and he was only half heartedly doing that because 807 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: he wasn't massively impressed with what he'd done. So just 808 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 3: one of those weird afternoons, Wasn't. 809 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: It weird afternoons? And I do feel for Alston because 810 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: he got caught up in that collision earlier on in 811 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: the weekend with Daniel Rocado's teammate and he just said 812 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: I had no where to go. So he had an 813 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: unintentional crash, which I think every time he has these crashes, 814 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: and they're not little just slide down the roads, they 815 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: look like big eye sides the poor. Yeah, it just 816 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: sets him back for another weekend and it just feels 817 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,959 Speaker 1: like you can't catch a brake right now. 818 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 3: He just needs a clean weekend. It doesn't even have 819 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 3: to be in a result. He just needs to have 820 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 3: a weekend where he methodically builds and he doesn't come 821 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 3: off and he doesn't get taken out and has a 822 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 3: reasonably clean race. I mean, you would accept a perfectly 823 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: you know, vanilla and dull eleventh right now, just to 824 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 3: get things back on track as they were earlier in 825 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 3: the year. And we said this on our podcast last week. 826 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: He's on balance. He's probably had pretty much the year 827 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 3: that you would expect. It's just strange that it was 828 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: so good so early and it's tailed off so dramatically 829 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: since the mid part of the season. 830 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: So I think he. 831 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 3: Would take a perfectly acceptable, boring, normal result. And then 832 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 3: of course the race after Japan is he's home grown 833 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 3: Prix and he'll be super. 834 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: Pumped for that. 835 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. But guys, if you don't watch Moto three, honestly, 836 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: can I recommend that you go and make some time 837 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: and watch it because that last lap, oh, it is 838 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: some of the best racing you'll ever get to see. 839 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: And we love Motor GP, love Motor two, but Moto three, 840 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: those kids are going for it NonStop. 841 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: And what's amazing to me with it is that if 842 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 3: you only look at championship standings in Moto three and 843 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 3: you saw the lead that David Altzo had and you 844 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 3: can actually win the World Championship this coming Sunday at 845 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 3: Motigi in Japan, you'd think, well, this is a little 846 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 3: bit boring. The same guy seems to win most of 847 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 3: the races. But I think this is why people are 848 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 3: so excited about this kid, in that it's a jungle 849 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 3: out there in Moto three. It's absolutely wild, and you 850 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 3: would think, given the craziness of those races at the front, 851 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 3: how can you have a guy who is able to 852 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 3: win from these positions of disadvantage In the last couple 853 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 3: of laps. He is an absolute killer in the last 854 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 3: couple of laps. I love the way he's going about it, 855 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 3: and you know, there's shades of young Acosta and young 856 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 3: Marquez and this kid. I think he's going to be 857 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 3: someone who's going to have a pretty long and successful 858 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 3: Motor GP career before too long. But the last three 859 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 3: laps of Moto three comes a point where you know, 860 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 3: I take pretty studious notes when I'm reporting on these things, 861 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 3: it comes to the point where you just throw your 862 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: hands in the air and say, I don't know what's 863 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 3: going to happen. At this point, I'm just going to 864 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 3: enjoy the ride because it's it's definitely the most entertaining 865 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 3: five minutes of Animoto GP race weekend, the finale of 866 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 3: photo three. 867 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 2: It's awesome, TOV. 868 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: The best racing you'll ever find out, La, let me 869 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: start it again. The best racing that you'll ever see 870 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: on TV. But what I was gonna say is, guess what, guys, 871 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: it's back this weekend because the Moto GP heads to Japan, 872 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: So for your Indonesian Grand Prix review, that is all 873 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: the time we have, but we're gonna be back in 874 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: literally a couple of days to talk Japan and I 875 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: cannot wait. But don't forget you guys can catch all 876 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: the action live and add break free on Fox Sports 877 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: and KO Plus. Keep up today with all the latest 878 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 1: MotoGP news on our socials at Foxmotorsport or via our 879 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: website Fox sports dot com dot Au, Forward Slash Motorsport. 880 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: But from Matt Clayton and myself Rinita of Milan, we're 881 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: going to be back with you guys real soon to 882 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: chat more Moto GP pit talk