Speaker 1: Welcome back to the official Supercoach AFL podcast and one
Speaker 1: of the most fun shows of the preseason.
Speaker 2: This is our pods pod.
Speaker 1: Supercoach will be open for everyone very soon, but Supercoach
Speaker 1: Plus subscribers have had access to the early team Picker
Speaker 1: four a month now and we have some exclusive data
Speaker 1: on what they've been doing. Stay tuned as we reveal
Speaker 1: the most selected players in Super Coach AFL for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five and the hidden gems who are being overlooked
Speaker 1: by coaches so far. And there are plenty of interesting
Speaker 1: names to talk about. A couple of nuggets off the top.
Speaker 1: Two of the top three scoring defenders from last season
Speaker 1: are in under ten percent of teams as we speak,
Speaker 1: and a player who finished twenty twenty four with an
Speaker 1: average one hundred and sixteen point eight and featured in
Speaker 1: sixty three percent of teams by the end of the
Speaker 1: year is in just three point five percent heading into
Speaker 1: the new season. I'm your host, Al Payton, joined again
Speaker 1: by DOSSI. Welcome back. I know you got hold of
Speaker 1: these very sensitive documents a few days ago and have
Speaker 1: been boring over them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just really exciting to see some exclusive data.
Speaker 4: Our coming our way.
Speaker 3: The place to get all your exclusive numbers this season
Speaker 3: is the Supercoach Official podcast of course. Ou So, yeah,
Speaker 3: came to look at some of the numbers that have
Speaker 3: been hidden on team pickers so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And Dan Badden is back with us. Now, Dan,
Speaker 1: did we try and brand you as the podmaster at
Speaker 1: one stage a couple of years ago?
Speaker 2: Didn't stick? I don't think.
Speaker 5: I think we.
Speaker 6: I think that was one of my first ventures into
Speaker 6: the super Coaches six years ago, right out the pods
Speaker 6: for for each position. Unfortunate I didn't actually pick any
Speaker 6: of them because I usually go cookie cutter, so it
Speaker 6: didn't last long. But yeah, looking forward to pouring through
Speaker 6: and there are some surprising names.
Speaker 5: Both at the top and the bottom of this. Yeah,
Speaker 5: looking forward to getting into and.
Speaker 1: We'll do that surely with our very special guest, the
Speaker 1: Supercoach Guru, Jordan Dessenta is with us. He finished eleventh
Speaker 1: overall in twenty twenty three and then backed up last
Speaker 1: year with a top three hundred finish. That's of more
Speaker 1: than one hundred and eighty five thousand players in AFL classics,
Speaker 1: so obviously knows what he's doing. Can teach us a
Speaker 1: thing or two about super coach Jordan. Great to have
Speaker 1: you on the show.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me boys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, great to be here and yeah already so keen
Speaker 7: for the twenty twenty five season. I think when the
Speaker 7: team peg opens, I've made a team within about ten minutes,
Speaker 7: so so be keen to chat about all the ownership numbers.
Speaker 1: Can you share any insights just quickly on maybe you know,
Speaker 1: more of a broader perspective on how you're attacking this year.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think like my strategy of the last couple
Speaker 7: of years has been, like I like to save as
Speaker 7: many trades as I can, so I think both years
Speaker 7: at the back at the end of the year, I've
Speaker 7: been able to use those trades when other coaches have
Speaker 7: been out of trades. So I guess the philosophy as
Speaker 7: I try and pick players that I think obviously there's
Speaker 7: a you know, you've got to take a bit of
Speaker 7: a risk there with hopefully there's players that can stay
Speaker 7: injury free. But I guess, you know, even if they've
Speaker 7: got to buy and stuff like that, if they're underpriced
Speaker 7: player that I think can be there for the whole year,
Speaker 7: then that's going to save me a trade from getting
Speaker 7: them in later in the year. So for example, last year,
Speaker 7: I started Sam Flanders. He had a buy and I
Speaker 7: think there was a lot of people that brought him in.
Speaker 7: I think it was round four or five when Goldkos
Speaker 7: finished that, but he was underpriced and I just thought,
Speaker 7: that's going to save me a trade because I can
Speaker 7: see him popping, and obviously he did that. I think
Speaker 7: he went it, you know, over one hundred and ten.
Speaker 7: He's one of our top defenders this year. So it's
Speaker 7: just stuff like that that I've been looking at for
Speaker 7: this year.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's very easy to get sucked into the
Speaker 1: gunning for the hot start early and with players he
Speaker 1: might have a good early drawer or something like that,
Speaker 1: but in the end, your overall rank at the end
Speaker 1: of the season is cumulative points over twenty three twenty
Speaker 1: four rounds.
Speaker 2: So if you get someone who you know, we might
Speaker 2: talk about a bit later.
Speaker 1: But I was talking with Dan Off very about Nick Martin,
Speaker 1: who was a bit of a frustrating own, but if
Speaker 1: you look at him at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: he's scored the seventh or eighth most points of any defender,
Speaker 1: so he's turned out to be a great selection. So
Speaker 1: that's something maybe to keep in mind this year. And
Speaker 1: just speaking generally, do you like to deviate from the
Speaker 1: pack and go with several pods in your starting team?
Speaker 2: Usually yeah, I think I'd like to pick like one
Speaker 2: or two pods. I think I think, yes.
Speaker 7: I mean some of the picks that will talk about,
Speaker 7: especially the forward line is so valuable this year, I
Speaker 7: almost feel like I probably will go with the pack
Speaker 7: on the forward line because there's so many limited options there.
Speaker 7: I probably won't go for a pod there. I'll probably
Speaker 7: look at the pod in a different position this year,
Speaker 7: whether it's the rucker or the midfield, the defense as well,
Speaker 7: I feel like there's not as many options, so I'll
Speaker 7: probably look for that pot in the.
Speaker 2: Mid or the ruck.
Speaker 7: And yeah, I think over the last couple of years,
Speaker 7: probably just one or two pods. I really think that
Speaker 7: if you can start your side, you know, straight up
Speaker 7: quite solid. It's that trading game and jumping on players
Speaker 7: that you think are looking to break out when you've
Speaker 7: seen a bit more data and the role after a
Speaker 7: couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I look to start one or two, I
Speaker 2: reckon Hopefully we want to find one for a year.
Speaker 1: A bit of a drive by there for Dossie two
Speaker 1: talking about saving trays for the end of the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a rough one, but I did actually sneak
Speaker 3: peak show Jordan my latest Team Picker, Team and he
Speaker 3: reckons I've got the fifty k, so I've got the
Speaker 3: all from the Guru himself, So watch out, all right.
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Speaker 1: coming your way in twenty twenty five. If you've listened
Speaker 1: to our preseason shows, you'll know we've followed a draft
Speaker 1: style format of going around the table to nominate players.
Speaker 2: We'll do that a bit again today.
Speaker 1: You also know, if you've been listening, that I've got
Speaker 1: the order wrong pretty much in every show, so my
Speaker 1: delegate that to.
Speaker 2: Dossie when we get to it.
Speaker 1: But we'll start with the list of the most popular players,
Speaker 1: so we'll just go straight off the top and talk
Speaker 1: about the top twenty. I think we'll get to most
Speaker 1: owned so far in the Team Picker and you talked
Speaker 1: about the forward line and the value on off of there,
Speaker 1: and it's interesting because when we do this early in
Speaker 1: the year, quite often it's the rookies that are right
Speaker 1: up the top because everybody picks the hot rookies and
Speaker 1: then you sort of go from there. But this year
Speaker 1: the most they're nearly all forwards and certainly in the
Speaker 1: very top end and that mid price sort of value bracket.
Speaker 1: So Bailey Smith is in more than eighty percent of teams.
Speaker 1: He's the most owned player currently and not far ahead
Speaker 1: of Caleb Daniel at seventy seven percent, Jack McCrae seventy percent.
Speaker 1: So there's your top three, all mid price forwards, so
Speaker 1: most people sort of starting their team from there. Number four,
Speaker 1: we've got a first of our rookies, I guess Levy
Speaker 1: Ashcroft who's a mid at sixty six percent. Jason Horn
Speaker 1: France is also sixty six percent, so there's another forward.
Speaker 1: Then we get Tristan Cherry, number one ruckman so far
Speaker 1: in terms of popularity. He's also won sixty six percent.
Speaker 1: Jagger Smith another rookie, sixty five percent, your man Dossi
Speaker 1: bo Allen over in the West at sixty four and
Speaker 1: sad L Hawley at the bombers.
Speaker 2: Is it run out the top ten, I've got one more.
Speaker 1: I think I've got one more, and that is Kitty
Speaker 1: Coleman at the line, so very very cheap defender who
Speaker 1: we know mister Hall season last year and will be
Speaker 1: amazing value this year. So lots of mid prices in
Speaker 1: that list. Join anything there that surprises you based on
Speaker 1: what we've seen.
Speaker 2: So far, Yeah, I don't think anything surprises me.
Speaker 7: Obviously, there's a high draft pick those ones there, like
Speaker 7: from Levi Ashcroft down, and I think those forwards, you know,
Speaker 7: they're just so valuable like Batty Smith, Cave, Daniel.
Speaker 2: McCrae, Rn Francis.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean when I did the team picker, that were
Speaker 7: the first ones that I picked.
Speaker 2: This is incredible value there.
Speaker 7: I know Hornet is priced at that ninety nine one hundred,
Speaker 7: but I just think, yeah, he's that perfect super coach
Speaker 7: player and he's going to I think he's going to
Speaker 7: take his game to another level. So he was my
Speaker 7: first f one locked in. Yeah, I guess it's just
Speaker 7: on those rookies. If they can get names around one,
Speaker 7: that might change some of the ownership numbers there. But yeah,
Speaker 7: obviously you can't see why not that they're in a
Speaker 7: lot of people's teams.
Speaker 1: Right now, we'll just go to the next batch of ten,
Speaker 1: and that is Sid Draper at the Crows at sixty
Speaker 1: one per cent ownership, Harry Sheesel sixty percent, so people
Speaker 1: prepared to play up there. In defense, Nick Deakos interesting
Speaker 1: fifty seven percent picking him. Then the Bond comes in
Speaker 1: at number sixteen. I think in the most popular and
Speaker 1: that's yeah, obviously the most expensive player in the game,
Speaker 1: but with good reason. Also fifty seven percent. Toby Trevali
Speaker 1: another rookie in defense, fifty two. Elijah hewittt Ford line
Speaker 1: rookie or forward mid, which is the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he gets a.
Speaker 1: Clear run this year with injury, he'll be a great
Speaker 1: pick at believe one hundred and twenty two. K Josh
Speaker 1: Smilly at the Tigers comes in next, also just over
Speaker 1: the fifty percent, so then we just dip under fifty
Speaker 1: two Callum Mills Clayton Oliver at forty four percent own
Speaker 1: so yeah, we can discuss our feelings on him. That's
Speaker 1: a really interesting one. And running at the top twenty
Speaker 1: Isaac Kekoo, how do you pronounce that got it that
Speaker 1: two attemps are going to both roll Dan, I mean
Speaker 1: a quick one on him.
Speaker 2: What do you think as his prospect? Is a super
Speaker 2: coach rookie.
Speaker 1: We know the Bombers have been crying out for play
Speaker 1: in that role, so hopefully he gets to go early.
Speaker 2: Can he score some points for us?
Speaker 6: I mean we've seen Nick Watson and josh uh Shelley
Speaker 6: have sort of varying results from a super coach perspective.
Speaker 6: Obviously Nick Watson got better as the year went on. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to see how he goes. He had
Speaker 6: some good numbers at junior level because he was spending
Speaker 6: fair bit of time in the midfield.
Speaker 2: I like Dick Watson.
Speaker 6: He's a little bit an accurate in front of goal,
Speaker 6: so that they'll be a bit of a watch. But yeah,
Speaker 6: it's certainly he's certainly got potential there. There's one guy
Speaker 6: I want to get to a bit later who's a
Speaker 6: serious pod who I think is a much better forward
Speaker 6: line rookie.
Speaker 5: Pick a bit of mature aga, a little bit of.
Speaker 6: A hint there, but yeah, I wouldn't be locking in
Speaker 6: CaCO just yet. You'd say he's probably a fairly certain
Speaker 6: starter for the bombers who are crying out as you said,
Speaker 6: al for that sort of position type.
Speaker 2: But yeah, just the role is a little bit of.
Speaker 1: A question mark for me and Dossie. What do you
Speaker 1: make of Clary coming in at forty four percent owned?
Speaker 1: Is that higher or lower than what you might have thought?
Speaker 1: Obviously the price is amazing, but what's he going to
Speaker 1: produce on the field.
Speaker 4: That's a real tough one.
Speaker 3: I've been pretty pretty staunch in my belief that I
Speaker 3: think he's basically I must have if he's having a
Speaker 3: full pre season under his belt. So probably not surprised
Speaker 3: at the numbers, but also a little bit surprised that
Speaker 3: people are for giving so easily from last season and
Speaker 3: because of his team picker at the moment and you've
Speaker 3: sort of got a long time till the season starts.
Speaker 3: Some surprise that so many people are just on board,
Speaker 3: But as you said, the price is just you know,
Speaker 3: we've gone through his numbers in the past. I think
Speaker 3: it was three one to twenty plus seasons before last
Speaker 3: season's eighty four, So with a full preseason, you'd think,
Speaker 3: you know, is he ever going to get back to
Speaker 3: one twenty? Maybe not, But even if he doesn't, one
Speaker 3: hundred plus should be a solid bet. King to know
Speaker 3: Jordan's perspectives on Clayton Oliver Clary. You're high on him
Speaker 3: this year, Jordan.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I just need to see probably that
Speaker 7: preseason game, just see how he's running and how fit
Speaker 7: he is. I actually did last year. I did actually
Speaker 7: bring him in after that one forty. I think DOSSI
Speaker 7: you Mayde's done the same. I remember chatting about it
Speaker 7: and then he sort of yeah, he sort of just
Speaker 7: didn't quite follow on from that last year and obviously
Speaker 7: was carrying some of those niggles and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I just want to see that in the preseason.
Speaker 7: He wasn't actually one that I picked straight away, but
Speaker 7: I have added him after seeing some photos at Melbourne training.
Speaker 7: So I think it's just those preseason games that we
Speaker 7: get to have a look at the community series. If
Speaker 7: I see Clary and then he's looking fit, then I
Speaker 7: think I agree with him. He's a must have at
Speaker 7: his price, and you can go out one hundred plus
Speaker 7: and that's a I think it's going to be a
Speaker 7: great M four M five range for super Coach teams
Speaker 7: and he doesn't have a buy as well, which is
Speaker 7: in there at Andy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's very nicely Danny, you on the Nick
Speaker 1: Dakos train this year's I think he's got the giants,
Speaker 1: which would be probably Toby Bedford in opening round, which
Speaker 1: will be a bit awkward. Obviously those points don't count
Speaker 1: towards super coach, but might affect his price. Maybe people
Speaker 1: thinking they can get him a little bit cheaper after
Speaker 1: the early buy.
Speaker 2: Is that trying to get too clever.
Speaker 6: I don't have him my first team, but that's purely
Speaker 6: because of the injury news coming out of Collingwood that
Speaker 6: he has had a bit of a delayed pre season.
Speaker 5: Just want to see that he is fully fit.
Speaker 6: I think even in eighty percent, Nick Dakos can go
Speaker 6: at one, fifteen, one twenty. But yeah, as you said,
Speaker 6: Toby Bedford and opening round is a difficult assignment for him.
Speaker 6: But yeah, he's definitely one who's like, yeah, if he's
Speaker 6: fully fit, I think you've probably got to pick him.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's just the injury watch for me at
Speaker 5: the moment.
Speaker 2: And are you just paying up six hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: one K for the bond? Does he.
Speaker 4: Yes? Probably? I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a tough question when I'm weighing up someone like
Speaker 3: a Tristan Sherry in that spot as well, And I
Speaker 3: don't know if I want to pay that much for
Speaker 3: two big premiums. But again I'm going to throw to
Speaker 3: the guy who's you know, always at the point end
Speaker 3: in Super Coach. He's paying that much for two premium
Speaker 3: big dogs. Is that too much to pay? And how
Speaker 3: have you typically you know, done well in your successful seasons?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I've studied bond for those last two
Speaker 7: years that I did come high. I had bond and
Speaker 7: one for both of them, and it just saves that trade.
Speaker 7: And he's just that level above. I think he went above.
Speaker 7: Was it maybe HA have an Andrew K last year
Speaker 7: or the year before and he's at six point eighty.
Speaker 7: I know it is a high price to pay, but
Speaker 7: it is the bond.
Speaker 2: I guess. It's just that question is will he regress it? All?
Speaker 7: There's talks about I think I was listening to the
Speaker 7: pod before and we you know, there's some people think
Speaker 7: you can go to another level, and I think maybe
Speaker 7: it was UDOSK.
Speaker 2: He's wants that brown low. So it's just that sort
Speaker 2: of he does look pretty.
Speaker 7: Fit at the moment in my team, I've actually paid
Speaker 7: up for Bond and Butters as my M one M two.
Speaker 7: They both don't have the buy they Yeah, I think
Speaker 7: they can go one twenty plus.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if I'm pretty hot on Butters.
Speaker 2: I think he can. Actually he could even I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's a bit of a big call, but I think
Speaker 7: he could even take take the M one off of Bonds,
Speaker 7: depending on what happens. I think just with the Ports
Speaker 7: game style, he just seems to get those points with
Speaker 7: you know, there's obviously when there's games on the line
Speaker 7: and stuff, he gets these extra points and he seems
Speaker 7: to get scaled up a little bit.
Speaker 3: So I really like Butters for that factor. Just beware, folks,
Speaker 3: this is a port fan speaking as well. We must
Speaker 3: be always take that with a grain of salt. But
Speaker 3: no great insights there.
Speaker 1: I was looking at potentially fading on Butters to start with,
Speaker 1: but then I looked at their fixture too, and they've
Speaker 1: got a really nice run early in the season. They've
Speaker 1: got no early buy, they've a really nice by in
Speaker 1: the middle of the year. So if you don't start him,
Speaker 1: it m'd be pretty hard to try and find a
Speaker 1: way to get him in. I don't know if his
Speaker 1: price is going to come down too much. And that's
Speaker 1: what we saw with Bond certainly last year. So if
Speaker 1: we jump now into the pods section of the show
Speaker 1: and you are to himblewaver to you to get this
Speaker 1: in the format right this time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think just to sort of frame what
Speaker 3: we're calling a pod here. So we've looked at the
Speaker 3: ownership numbers and I said to the guys, you know,
Speaker 3: roughly under ten percent is what we're looking at here.
Speaker 3: There's obviously we can go even more niche if we want, so,
Speaker 3: kind of bonus points if you can go even below
Speaker 3: five percent, maybe below one percent would even be extra
Speaker 3: bonus points. But I've done the little I've done the
Speaker 3: spin the wheel, and you're not going to like it.
Speaker 3: Al you're coming up the rear again last so Dan
Speaker 3: you're number one, second, Jordan's third, and yeah, our fourth pick.
Speaker 3: So again, this isn't a proper draft. This is just
Speaker 3: who we want to talk about as our favorite points
Speaker 3: of difference, and it is super early, so we're fully
Speaker 3: aware that these pods are going to change when the
Speaker 3: game does open. And this is just a really nice
Speaker 3: indication of some players that we're high on that might
Speaker 3: not be talked about in the super coach community as
Speaker 3: much at the moment.
Speaker 4: So, Dan, do you want to take us away with
Speaker 4: your first one.
Speaker 6: Two number one picks from two podcasts? No pressure for me.
Speaker 6: I'm going to go again for a fairly vanilla one.
Speaker 6: I was very surprised to see this guy in the
Speaker 6: POD's sort of section in their less than ten percent,
Speaker 6: and that's Tom Stewart. I think a lot may have
Speaker 6: been put off by the fact that he was tagged
Speaker 6: a lot last year and targeted. He's only in seven
Speaker 6: point eight percent of teams currently.
Speaker 2: He's in mind starting squad.
Speaker 6: Might be the geelong bias talking from my work down
Speaker 6: the Highway, but I think that you know, they he
Speaker 6: sort of proved in that last eight seven or eight weeks,
Speaker 6: you know, Chris Scott moving him into the midfield, that
Speaker 6: he could beat the tag and he was just about
Speaker 6: best on in the first half of that prelim final
Speaker 6: as well. So I think he's he provides some serious value.
Speaker 6: I think he's at about farmer and twenty k at
Speaker 6: the moment, and you're looking for value there. Obviously, there's
Speaker 6: a lot of top price defenders. Yeah, yeah, Sheesels, Luke
Speaker 6: Grinds and the like. Well, Tom Stewart comes at about
Speaker 6: one hundred hundred grand cheaper, so I think he provides
Speaker 6: some value. And the only question mark is where they
Speaker 6: can beat that tag. But you know, Chris Scott has
Speaker 6: that you know, true cup his sleeve to move into
Speaker 6: the midfield, and he showed he could score pretty well
Speaker 6: in that role as well.
Speaker 1: Where do you see him playings this year? Because he
Speaker 1: gets thrown around a little bit. Last year we were
Speaker 1: you know, there was some hope he might even be
Speaker 1: a dppeak, I mean into twenty twenty five. Didn't quite
Speaker 1: get that. But do we do you think you'll see
Speaker 1: him back in the centate quick?
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't have thought just just purely because Smith is
Speaker 6: going in there. It seemed really like that was a
Speaker 6: break glass in case of emergency. They were really struggling
Speaker 6: in the clearances, particularly without Patrick Dainsfield, and with Patrick
Speaker 6: Damesfield and Tom Stewart in there, you know they will
Speaker 6: manage to improve that. They've also got Max Holmes to
Speaker 6: sort of you know, swing the magnets from defense to
Speaker 6: the midfield. So I'm not sure they'll do that as
Speaker 6: much with Tom Stewart, just purely because I rarely Smith's
Speaker 6: in there, and he's probably gonna be taking a fair
Speaker 6: bit of those midfield minutes.
Speaker 7: I think Stewart could be a top six everything goes right,
Speaker 7: he could be a top six defender. So that's one
Speaker 7: that you're starting and you don't have to trade him
Speaker 7: out for the rest of the year, and he's just
Speaker 7: going to be in that top six. He was actually
Speaker 7: one that I was looking at as well, under that
Speaker 7: ten percent and yeah, average one thirteen, one oh nine,
Speaker 7: one oh seven last.
Speaker 2: Three years, so it just as that role. But he's
Speaker 2: one that you could lock.
Speaker 7: He does have the early buyer, but if you can
Speaker 7: get back to those numbers, you're getting him pretty underpriced.
Speaker 3: There, alrighty, and it's Dossy up next for my first pick,
Speaker 3: And I'm really surprised that this guy is so low
Speaker 3: ownership given what he did towards the back end of
Speaker 3: last year, but probably no surprise as well in that
Speaker 3: just weighing up the buyers, that's probably the only reason
Speaker 3: I can see people maybe avoiding this guy. And it
Speaker 3: is Matt Roberts at five point zero six percent owned,
Speaker 3: So he's priced nice and cheap given that he had
Speaker 3: a few games as a sub last year, was kind
Speaker 3: of not utilized to his full extent, and until towards
Speaker 3: the back end of last year, came home absolutely firing,
Speaker 3: and a lot of us had him in our teams
Speaker 3: towards the back end of last year as a as
Speaker 3: a premium defender one hundred and thirteen point six average
Speaker 3: for his last five games, only averaged eighty point seven
Speaker 3: for the season. So you're getting him, you know, a
Speaker 3: much cheaper price than the way he ended the season
Speaker 3: last year based on form. So Matt Roberts for me
Speaker 3: a cheeky little pod five percent owned to start the
Speaker 3: moment in Team Picker. He's already had some strong time
Speaker 3: trial performances if we want to put those, put some
Speaker 3: weight into those from Big Dean Cox looking onto his
Speaker 3: first season as coach. So I really like Matt Roberts
Speaker 3: as a potential pod in defense. But yeah, I can
Speaker 3: understand people rolling with the Callum Mills, and we've talked
Speaker 3: about the players that share that buy as well. It
Speaker 3: is the Geelong players I think that we're talking about.
Speaker 4: So if you've got to so a Brisbane.
Speaker 3: So if you've got a Bailey Smith, if you've got
Speaker 3: a Kiddy Coleman, you know, it starts to stack up.
Speaker 3: So I can kind of understand it, but I also
Speaker 3: quite like it as a point of difference at this point.
Speaker 2: Yes, So I know the Phantom is a huge fan.
Speaker 1: So he's going to be back on deck next week,
Speaker 1: I believe, and I'm sure he'll be trying to push
Speaker 1: those ownership numbers up before round one rolls around. Jordan,
Speaker 1: who do you like with your first pick in this
Speaker 1: sort of pod draft?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm pretty interested in James Cicily. So there's obviously
Speaker 7: a name that we've known in Super Coach has been
Speaker 7: a gun and I think he's sitting at nine percent.
Speaker 7: It's a real interesting one because it's just about where
Speaker 7: he's going to play. They've obviously brought in Josh Battle
Speaker 7: and Tom barrass So yeah, there's talks that he could
Speaker 7: be that third tall intercepting defender and he could just
Speaker 7: roam around free, and you know there's a I listened
Speaker 7: to Xavier Ellis a lot on his podcast and he
Speaker 7: reckons that Sicily could be that guy. Just to get
Speaker 7: thirty plus back there and just be that third tall.
Speaker 7: Then there's also the option that he could go and
Speaker 7: play forward, and he did that in that semi final
Speaker 7: against port he went forward, But then also for years
Speaker 7: going forward to end of a game, could that give
Speaker 7: him those points of impact with the goals? And it's
Speaker 7: just it is a bit of an up and down.
Speaker 7: But I'm just interested in where he plays. I think
Speaker 7: obviously plays are overall around as well, so we do
Speaker 7: get to see a little sneak of that. But yeah,
Speaker 7: last year when at one fourteen and when it won
Speaker 7: a eight point six the year before that, and yeah,
Speaker 7: I remember last year or the year that I was
Speaker 7: high up, I didn't own him and he hit a
Speaker 7: one seventy two or one seventy one, a one sixty
Speaker 7: six in the space of a six game stretch, and
Speaker 7: he was almost like I must have and he was
Speaker 7: absolutely killing me and people would just be captaining and
Speaker 7: v seeing him. So he's just one I'm just keeping
Speaker 7: an eye on as a pod because I think a
Speaker 7: lot of people are scared off of him because of
Speaker 7: him potentially playing forward. But if we can see him
Speaker 7: actually settled back there and he's got a bit more freedom,
Speaker 7: then he could tear it up. I don't know, it's
Speaker 7: just something that's caught my eye.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting take as well. And I think
Speaker 3: to your point, often last year when they did throw
Speaker 3: them forward, it wasn't at the start of a game.
Speaker 3: He'd often start as a defender and if it wasn't working,
Speaker 3: that's when they'd throw him forward. So it's almost like,
Speaker 3: if he's not dominating, then Hawks are going to try
Speaker 3: and get him involved and thrown forward if he's getting
Speaker 3: too much attention back.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I quite like it.
Speaker 3: And they also the other take with they've kind of
Speaker 3: constantly had to play him as a bit more of
Speaker 3: a lockdown than they want to. They keep having these
Speaker 3: injuries to their key defensive stocks. He hasn't really been
Speaker 3: able to roam, so having those names coming in, does
Speaker 3: he then able.
Speaker 4: To free wheel?
Speaker 3: Like you said, we do, I believe get that opening
Speaker 3: round look, So if he is one that pops, he could,
Speaker 3: you know, turn away from being a pod to being
Speaker 3: highly owned pretty quickly. Next pick, they're oul and it's
Speaker 3: you with the last pick in our little pod draft.
Speaker 1: Well, Jordan actually stole I was going to talk about
Speaker 1: because I like Sicily too, but I think the defenders
Speaker 1: are really interesting because we're seeing in those ownership numbers
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are going straight for a
Speaker 1: sheezel type. Jack Sinkley is really popular. Two or three
Speaker 1: names that popping up a lot in teams and with
Speaker 1: the defense. I know when you open Super Coach the
Speaker 1: first time you go, you know that's what first cups
Speaker 1: up on your screen. And those guys just look so
Speaker 1: solid and you think, I'll just lock them in f
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten one hundred and twenty every week.
Speaker 1: But if you look at the what happened last year,
Speaker 1: we're in a similar situation. Someone like Tom Stewart at
Speaker 1: the start of the year look like he was safe
Speaker 1: as the houses, and he dropped off. And then you
Speaker 1: had someone like Lucky Whitfield who started the year at
Speaker 1: about that far I twenty K mark and ended up
Speaker 1: being a six hundred and fifty K primo. So the numbers,
Speaker 1: the names don't usually stay the same from year to year.
Speaker 1: So you know, who is there in that sort of
Speaker 1: slightly cheaper price packet who coul maybe get a little
Speaker 1: bit of value out of, who might end up being
Speaker 1: one of those top price guys. And I think Sicily
Speaker 1: is definitely a candidate. Another one that i'd throp is
Speaker 1: Nazaiah Wanganeen Miller. So it's kind of hard when you
Speaker 1: got Sinclair and he's really popular, most people will probably
Speaker 1: pick one of the two. But Nazaia's just you know,
Speaker 1: improved every year in the AFL. Last year his super
Speaker 1: coach average jump from eighty five to one oh one.
Speaker 1: Sin Kilda has probably with Port, the best fixture in
Speaker 1: the comp. They don't have an early buy, They've got
Speaker 1: a great buy in the middle of the year, so
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, can he find an extra five
Speaker 1: or ten points a game to get into that real
Speaker 1: primo Territory's only five forty k or five forty three
Speaker 1: is in five point six percent of teams.
Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, I just love watching him play.
Speaker 2: They love getting the ball in his hands.
Speaker 1: It'd be interesting how the Saints sort of shake up
Speaker 1: with a few new names coming in.
Speaker 2: You know, McCrae into the midfield. Does that mean Sinclair
Speaker 2: stays back more?
Speaker 1: But then you know Travali is coming in there, so
Speaker 1: we know you love Ari shown Maker is an option
Speaker 1: down there with maybe Battle going out, so there's a
Speaker 1: few magnets moving around, but I just think, you know,
Speaker 1: they've brought him in obviously he was a high draft
Speaker 1: pick and you know, love everything about what he's done
Speaker 1: so far in his career, and I can just see
Speaker 1: that trajectory still just going up. What do you think,
Speaker 1: Danny A NAS fan?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 6: I've had him in draft the past couple of years
Speaker 6: and yeah, he's.
Speaker 2: Great to watch and you know, such a good kick.
Speaker 6: I guess the only question mark is whether he has
Speaker 6: a lottery on the kick ins.
Speaker 5: I think that's probably the.
Speaker 6: Thing that will like, you know, get make him from
Speaker 6: one hundred to one hundred and ten if he's just
Speaker 6: on the kick ins every game. And as we discussed,
Speaker 6: I think a couple of podcasts Ago Ari might be
Speaker 6: on some of those, and then obviously Jack Sinclair as well,
Speaker 6: depending on his roles. So yeah, it's an interesting one
Speaker 6: for him. But I guess the thik point in this
Speaker 6: favor is he's such good kick. He uses it in
Speaker 6: the going to get the ball into his hands in
Speaker 6: important areas, you know, running off half back and trying
Speaker 6: to get be that money kick inside fifty, getting those
Speaker 6: goal assists, and you know where kicks are more awarded
Speaker 6: so that's certainly a point in his favor and his
Speaker 6: kick to handball ratio. But yeah, just whether he can
Speaker 6: make that jump to be that six to fifty k
Speaker 6: player like a Lockie with Field was last year.
Speaker 2: Maybe it needs a little bit more selfish in demand.
Speaker 6: Those those kick ins increase his sprint speed, so he's
Speaker 6: getting to the kick in.
Speaker 5: Is a bit quicker the Jack Sinclaire.
Speaker 3: All right, Dan, we're background too, the number one pick
Speaker 3: in the draft again for round two, let's take it
Speaker 3: away for your second pot.
Speaker 2: Just for a change, we'll go for another defender.
Speaker 6: I reckon and we were saying extra points for under
Speaker 6: five percent. This guy is in one point six percent
Speaker 6: of teams. He pumped out a one sixty score in
Speaker 6: his first game last year. I'm talking about Jordan Ridley,
Speaker 6: who comes out a little bit of a discount in
Speaker 6: the Coach twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: We know he started the year injured last.
Speaker 6: Year, only came in at about round round eleven I
Speaker 6: think it was. But these were his scores when he
Speaker 6: did come in, one sixty two, one eleven, one twelve,
Speaker 6: A couple of blips on the raid at eighty four
Speaker 6: sixty three one twenty nine, one twenty seven, one h
Speaker 6: two and then a thirty three which was injury affected. Obviously,
Speaker 6: that is one of the question marks at Ridley whether
Speaker 6: he can get his body right, and he had a
Speaker 6: couple of soft tissue injuries throughout twenty twenty four. But
Speaker 6: you know, his price an average of one hundred and
Speaker 6: two is five hundred and fifty two. K. We know
Speaker 6: he's average one hundred, one hundred and five before. If
Speaker 6: he can get on the park, he's probably taking most
Speaker 6: of the kick ins there at the Bombers, and he is,
Speaker 6: as El said, like in that sort of Tom Sewer bracket,
Speaker 6: a bit of a cheaper option there, and you know
Speaker 6: only in one point six percent of teams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, unreal, bit of an interesting option. Do you have
Speaker 3: any any thoughts on him, Jordan.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that just you're saying that I just completely forgot
Speaker 7: about Ridley actually and just looking at his numbers, then
Speaker 7: he does score very well on super Coaching. Yeah, if
Speaker 7: you take it that thirty three, he's going at one
Speaker 7: eleven there, so you know, everything going right, you know,
Speaker 7: you can see him probably pushing that one eleven the
Speaker 7: Bombers do of that early buy would be my only
Speaker 7: thing but yeah, it's that. Yeah, that one's actually you
Speaker 7: sort of forget because of the nine games he played.
Speaker 7: But that is a very good pot and I actually
Speaker 7: could if he can get himself fit, I could actually
Speaker 7: see him being a top six guy if everything goes right.
Speaker 2: So I really like the pick.
Speaker 5: Would you pick him, Jordan?
Speaker 6: You're a guy that likes to have his premiums stay
Speaker 6: in for most of the year. Me and Dossy burnt
Speaker 6: through all our trades last year, which is probably why
Speaker 6: I've put forward Jordan Ridley here. But would you have
Speaker 6: enough confidence to potentially start him with the way you've
Speaker 6: gone the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably the question I think.
Speaker 7: I mean, we get to see an overall round look
Speaker 7: at Ridley, so if that might yeah, I probably actually wouldn't.
Speaker 7: But if I see something in over around maypop's a
Speaker 7: big one forty or something and he's looking pretty fit,
Speaker 7: and I see some pre season stuff, it might get
Speaker 7: me to change.
Speaker 2: Whether it's reactionary or not.
Speaker 7: But probably someone I would Yeah, I would have that
Speaker 7: injury history in the back of my mind. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I'll say not now, but it could change.
Speaker 3: I think I think MJ's philosophy from the coaches panel
Speaker 3: the other week was like, if you're going to start,
Speaker 3: if you're going to have one of these injury guys
Speaker 3: on your team, like injury riddled constantly players, you start
Speaker 3: with him? Is his philosophy because then you're only wasting
Speaker 3: a trade to get them out once rather than trading
Speaker 3: them in and then trading him back out when they
Speaker 3: get injured again.
Speaker 4: So I kind of like that as.
Speaker 3: A philosophy when you're looking at some of these guys
Speaker 3: with checkered injury injury histories. But yeah, he's a name
Speaker 3: that I certainly haven't heard, and no surprise that he's
Speaker 3: such low ownership. They're definitely bonus points for you on
Speaker 3: that one there, Dan. I'm going to jump into a
Speaker 3: player with my next pick who is a midfielder and
Speaker 3: a player that I am toying with in my starting
Speaker 3: squad at the moment in the early days of Team
Speaker 3: Picker that we are in at the moment, Jordan Dawson
Speaker 3: at five hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I'm just interested
Speaker 3: in if he can take his game up a level
Speaker 3: from last year. I think we were all, you know,
Speaker 3: anyone that started him last year would have been absolutely
Speaker 3: burnt by him. Only three point twenty six percent owned,
Speaker 3: I should say at the moment, so under that five
Speaker 3: percent bracket as well. This is a guy that came
Speaker 3: off a season the year prior in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: averaging one hundred and sixteen super Coach points. Was the
Speaker 3: fourth ranked player that season. A lot of people started
Speaker 3: with him, backing in that he'd repeat it started terribly
Speaker 3: last year and lost a lot of value to start
Speaker 3: the season. I think these are his scores from early
Speaker 3: last year in eighty two, ninety six, sixty eight, ninety nine,
Speaker 3: sixty four. Then he went bang one sixty eight one,
Speaker 3: twenty seven, ninety four, hundred and forty. So he sort
Speaker 3: of was a bit of Jekyl and Hired last season.
Speaker 3: And if we see more of the superstar Jordan Dawson
Speaker 3: rather than those down scores, I think he's got a
Speaker 3: little bit more help in the midfield this year with
Speaker 3: Petelink coming in. He's already said here in Adelaide that
Speaker 3: his role is more likely to play midfield, although he
Speaker 3: did admit, you know, he's going to have to play
Speaker 3: sort of where the team needs him as well. But
Speaker 3: he did say predominantly midfield, was the quote. So look,
Speaker 3: I'm just high on Jordan Dawson. He started low efficiency,
Speaker 3: it was a bit like the Hayden Young start of
Speaker 3: last year, and everyone got rid of him. So a
Speaker 3: lot of coaches did dump him, and then he went
Speaker 3: on this this amazing run. So I was actually the
Speaker 3: other way around. I didn't start him, then I picked
Speaker 3: him up. So I've got a bit more of a
Speaker 3: fonder memory of Jordan Dawson from last year. But crow
Speaker 3: Skipper priced at just a ticko for one hundred, I
Speaker 3: quite like Dawson this season.
Speaker 1: Now, well, I was going to ask Jordan as a
Speaker 1: poor man, I'm sure how close he watches the Crows.
Speaker 1: But if you had a take on here, what sort
Speaker 1: of went wrong for Jordan Dawson last year?
Speaker 2: Did his role change much at all?
Speaker 1: Or was it just Yeah, like as DOSSI alluded to,
Speaker 1: there were some really low kicking efficiency numbers, which just
Speaker 1: don't you know, that's not what we normally see from him.
Speaker 1: So can we sort of write that off as a
Speaker 1: bit of an aberration?
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think, I mean I heard the things
Speaker 7: that he was carrying a bit of an injury as well.
Speaker 7: Throughout the year, and I just had look at his
Speaker 7: cbas and last year he went at fifty nine percent cbas.
Speaker 7: The year before it redid that one fifteen he was
Speaker 7: at seventy percent cbas. So he saw just a little
Speaker 7: bit less cbas there, and that was I think they
Speaker 7: were trying out. You know, they put ranking in there
Speaker 7: more time, and Saligo had some more cbas there. And
Speaker 7: you know, now, as DOSSI said, they've got pet Ling
Speaker 7: and they've got Draper that they might run through there
Speaker 7: and he might play a bit more of a forward role.
Speaker 7: So he sort of see Dawson maybe staying about that
Speaker 7: fifty nine percent or fifty five percent, but yeah, if
Speaker 7: you can get himself fit, like you know, I feel
Speaker 7: like he was playing injured. That was just some of
Speaker 7: the talk that was going around. But I have actually
Speaker 7: as a portman, I have had him in my side
Speaker 7: the last two years and I'm a big fan of him. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I think he's Yeah, he's that elite sort of player
Speaker 7: that you want in super coach and yeah, I mean
Speaker 7: I can see him, you know, go on one ten
Speaker 7: if everything goes right, So I think it's a good pick.
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, just.
Speaker 7: Be worried about some of that that midfield time with
Speaker 7: the inclusions that they've got there at the Crows this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose the sword can swing both ways. He's
Speaker 3: getting more help, but they could also be the ones
Speaker 3: taking his midfield time. So yeah, point take, and I'm
Speaker 3: pretty keen on him still, but we'll see how it
Speaker 3: goes into preseason. Jordan, you've got the next pick in
Speaker 3: the draft. Hopefully I am succeeding in following the draft
Speaker 3: order this time. But Jordan, take us away with your
Speaker 3: next pot.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've got I'm going to go a bit rogue here,
Speaker 7: I think with another one percent that Tan did.
Speaker 2: But Ed Richards I just really like him.
Speaker 7: I know it's so quite a bit of a pod,
Speaker 7: but since round fourteen he went at one oh three
Speaker 7: point eight and that was his first year in the midfield,
Speaker 7: so I think he's locked down that role now and
Speaker 7: he just adds so much speed for the Doggies. Obviously
Speaker 7: they've got Bond in there, They've got tre Laura, and
Speaker 7: they've got liber and there's quite a bit of depth
Speaker 7: in there. But I think he's a huge pod. I
Speaker 7: could see maybe ten points up side there. I just
Speaker 7: feel like he's that potential. He's just that super coach player.
Speaker 7: He's like that Mills young type that I think could
Speaker 7: take his game to another level. And you know, he
Speaker 7: usually takes his guys a year in the midfield to
Speaker 7: just get used to that and then they can usually
Speaker 7: take it to the next level. So he did pop
Speaker 7: a big one sixty three as well last year. There's
Speaker 7: all just little signs there that I like, I don't
Speaker 7: think I have enough guts to start him, But he's
Speaker 7: just one I'm watching in the midfield there. And yeah,
Speaker 7: as I said, they do have Tralaw and Bond there,
Speaker 7: but with the aging midfield of you know, Trelaw and
Speaker 7: liber Yeah, I guess you just don't really know what
Speaker 7: could happen at could be a bond of Richard's a
Speaker 7: Sanders sort of type in the midfield. So it's just
Speaker 7: one I'm watching as as a huge pod.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We saw, I guess a couple of guys leave the
Speaker 3: club in the off season based on not being used
Speaker 3: in the midfield last year, and Ed Richards was one
Speaker 3: that actually was benefited from them missing out because he
Speaker 3: had a several games where he spent even over ninety
Speaker 3: percent of center bounce attendances, So Bevo really did like
Speaker 3: using him often. It was when liber was out that
Speaker 3: he got those big, huge, sort of bulky percentages that
Speaker 3: we saw in there. And even when Trelaw missed a
Speaker 3: game or two, that's when he sort of saw his spikes.
Speaker 3: Do you see that sort of do you see with
Speaker 3: a full healthy team. We'll have to wait and see
Speaker 3: if the team remains healthy this season, but is he
Speaker 3: still you know, is he going to get those bulks
Speaker 3: and midfield time like kind of we're talking about with
Speaker 3: Jordan Dawson Or is he going to be the guy
Speaker 3: that has to play you know, inside outside because he's
Speaker 3: got so many different weapons that he can play with.
Speaker 3: You know, is it going to be just lib A
Speaker 3: Bond Tralaw if they're all fit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just think he's ready to actually be the
Speaker 7: number two guy or third guy with tra Law there,
Speaker 7: depending if Chill Logan stay fit.
Speaker 2: I just think he's he adds so much dynamic to
Speaker 2: them men. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean I was listening to Seen the other day
Speaker 7: and they were talking quite heavily about Ed Richards and
Speaker 7: how much he added to their team. So just one
Speaker 7: I'm keeping an eye on there, but you are right
Speaker 7: about the midfield mix there. But he's that perfect age back.
Speaker 7: He's not like these guys that are over thirty. Is
Speaker 7: that mid twenties guy, and I just feel like he
Speaker 7: just added so much to their midfield with speed and yeah,
Speaker 7: there's some pretty big numbers there. I just think, Yeah,
Speaker 7: usually these guys, it just takes them a year to
Speaker 7: sort of figure that out. And we've seen plenty of
Speaker 7: other teams do it, like hating young Cat Callum Mills,
Speaker 7: and these guys have been top guys in their line.
Speaker 7: So I feel like he fits that mold. It's just
Speaker 7: where can he do it? So it's just a yeah,
Speaker 7: a bit of a pod there.
Speaker 4: Love that as a pod.
Speaker 3: Ali, you're rounding out your last pick in the second
Speaker 3: round here, Well.
Speaker 1: I'm going in the mids as well, someone who's at
Speaker 1: three point four percent ownership, and that is gian Nwcomb
Speaker 1: at the Hawks. He's five hundred and twenty nine thousand,
Speaker 1: So yeah, again someone who obviously you'd be picking him
Speaker 1: to be a keeper in your midfield at that price,
Speaker 1: but you know, can you potentially get one hundred grand
Speaker 1: of upside there or you know, ten fifteen points a game?
Speaker 2: So he was well.
Speaker 1: His average last year was ninety eight point three, which
Speaker 1: is exactly the same as it was the year before,
Speaker 1: which is weird coincidence there. But he started the year
Speaker 1: pretty terribly like you talk about Dawson Newcomb. Started with
Speaker 1: sixty six sixty six in the first two games, and
Speaker 1: then in by round five we'd only had one ton.
Speaker 1: But by the end of the year, obviously Hawthorne, we know,
Speaker 1: their whole season turned around and came home like an
Speaker 1: ebsolute steam train, and he was right at the pointy
Speaker 1: end there. So if we go from round twenty three
Speaker 1: through the finals, which some of these games don't impact
Speaker 1: his price, which is nice, he scored one sixty two,
Speaker 1: one forty one, forty nine and one thirty one, and
Speaker 1: in those games he averaged you know, he's over thirty
Speaker 1: touches a game, and he was kicking some goals as well.
Speaker 1: I think he kicked a goal in three out of
Speaker 1: those four games, and he had about thirteen or fourteen
Speaker 1: goal assists as well, So that's where he was really
Speaker 1: sort of adding to his tally. And we know he
Speaker 1: gets clearances and tackles those kinds of things which are
Speaker 1: the bedrock of a good super Coach score and someone
Speaker 1: that we tapped into a bit last year on the
Speaker 1: po pig mentality from friends at Doctor super Coach did
Speaker 1: some numbers at the start of last year where he
Speaker 1: highlighted nukhim as a real fit a lot of the
Speaker 1: criteria for a breakout season, and I suppose maybe it happened,
Speaker 1: you know, right at the end. But he's only twenty
Speaker 1: three coming into i think his fifth year in the AFL,
Speaker 1: so this could be the year when he becomes a
Speaker 1: bona fide premium in super coach and he's probably the
Speaker 1: number one man there at the Hawks, and based on
Speaker 1: what happened last year, we think we think they'll be
Speaker 1: contending again. So again, you know, we mentioned with sicily
Speaker 1: they do have a buy early on, so that is
Speaker 1: something to consider. But yeah, I really like you know
Speaker 1: where he's heading in certainly in his super coaching AFL career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's another awesome pot in the midfield. There's plenty
Speaker 3: to choose from, and I think it's probably why they're
Speaker 3: so lowly owned, is that we've got those massive, massive
Speaker 3: scoring premiums in our midfield. But there's so many good
Speaker 3: options and I think opening round is clearly going to
Speaker 3: dictate a few of these points of difference and whether
Speaker 3: or not they become highly owned like a guy like
Speaker 3: John Nucom. If he pops, you know he's going to
Speaker 3: rise in ownership significantly if he can show that he
Speaker 3: can continue that form from the back end of last year.
Speaker 3: But you know that's why we love an early pod
Speaker 3: and you can claim him that you were on early
Speaker 3: out if we can reach.
Speaker 1: Recording is when you save these clips.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll get to our last pick each and
Speaker 3: Dan takes away with another sneaky point of difference.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so a little bit of a different tacts.
Speaker 6: I'm going to lock in the rookie that I was
Speaker 6: alluding to earlier, and that is Sam Davidson from the
Speaker 6: Bulldogs three point seven percent of teams at one hundred
Speaker 6: and thirteen K. He could have probably played for Richmond
Speaker 6: last year. He was dominating in the VFL side. When
Speaker 6: they're losing himy one hundred points every week as a
Speaker 6: as a medium forward, you think that the Bulldogs are
Speaker 6: probably fair a bit better than Richmond VFL did.
Speaker 5: He average around about.
Speaker 6: Seventy points in that sort of hard running role as
Speaker 6: a half forward and Bevo loves those type of players,
Speaker 6: and I think that the Bulldogs picking him, you know,
Speaker 6: at twenty one years old as already made type, surely
Speaker 6: he's going to be playing a significant senior footy And
Speaker 6: as I said, in that sort of another one of
Speaker 6: those bever role players. So another that's sort of flying
Speaker 6: under the radar there. But yeah, I think that he
Speaker 6: can have some pretty decent scoring potential maybe average fifty
Speaker 6: five sixties potentially more, and play a vital role for
Speaker 6: the Bulldogs. So yeah, not one to potentially slot away
Speaker 6: on your bench.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an.
Speaker 1: Absolute classic Bevo move is and that he loves an
Speaker 1: Anthony sCOD or a Lockie McNeil time that he's plucked
Speaker 1: from a VFL somewhere and he tends to play them,
Speaker 1: give them games. That's definitely good. So I mean, what
Speaker 1: was his role in the VFL. He's not so much
Speaker 1: a toll forward? Is he a goalkicker or Yeah?
Speaker 6: So one ninety centimeter forwards just runs all day. So
Speaker 6: you're classic, as you say, like you're Lockeye McNeil sort
Speaker 6: of type in terms of just Anthony Scott where he
Speaker 6: will just run up and down the wings, getting the footy,
Speaker 6: taking marks back with the fly that sort of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it might not be a huge ball winner like a
Speaker 6: potentially like a Riley Bias is a mature age off
Speaker 6: half back, but yeah, he's got the role there. I
Speaker 6: think he'd had pretty decent job security, and it's something
Speaker 6: that the Bulldogs do need, that sort of link man
Speaker 6: on the wings and half forwards. So yeah, I think
Speaker 6: it's a he should be a pretty reliable sort of rookie.
Speaker 6: Maybe not to be trusted on field every week, but yeah,
Speaker 6: it should be a pretty consistent cash generator.
Speaker 4: It's really good to know that he could be one
Speaker 4: of those options.
Speaker 3: As the Devil's advocate, I reckon, I might know why
Speaker 3: he's so lowly owned at the moment. And I'll throw
Speaker 3: to Jordan because I reckon he's sort of criticized a
Speaker 3: couple of my teams I've shown him so far. Because
Speaker 3: you don't like putting those basement rookies, even if they
Speaker 3: potentially do have job security.
Speaker 4: I reckon, you like to put some of those more expensive.
Speaker 3: Players so it's easier to go down, Am I right
Speaker 3: and saying yeah that's how you like to build the team.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I usually do pay up for those guys on
Speaker 7: the bench. I think that's what I've always done last
Speaker 7: two years, So it would really have to see the
Speaker 7: role and really be confident he's going to have a
Speaker 7: good stretch to put him in there, because those guys
Speaker 7: can get stuck if they just come in for a
Speaker 7: couple of games and then they're that basement price, Whereas
Speaker 7: if you can pay up for some of these higher guys,
Speaker 7: then you can roll down to them.
Speaker 3: All Right, I'll jump to my final pick in the draft,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to go to a guy we're all
Speaker 3: pretty keen in this early stage of preseason on the
Speaker 3: Dockers midfield, and I'm going to go to a little
Speaker 3: bit higher owned percentage but still under ten percent Andrew
Speaker 3: Brayshaw at seven point five seven percent owned. Very keen
Speaker 3: on potentially having him as a starting pick after he
Speaker 3: came home incredibly strong to finish last year. He's priced
Speaker 3: relatively okay for what I think that he can be
Speaker 3: able to do this season, So I'm just looking at it.
Speaker 3: Andrew Brayshaw in five hundred and ninety one eight hundred,
Speaker 3: still in that premium bracket one hundred and ten approximate
Speaker 3: average from last year and I'm just looking at the
Speaker 3: Dockers as a team that I think is going to
Speaker 3: be really strong team this year. He's clearly in their
Speaker 3: best midfield. It's going to be him and Sarong and
Speaker 3: a spattering of others, whether that's five young Johnson, Erasmus.
Speaker 3: I think safe to say Sarong and Brayshaw are going
Speaker 3: to be the two guys in there leading the way.
Speaker 3: It's how they ended last season. So for me, I
Speaker 3: really like Brayshaw as a guy who showed that he
Speaker 3: could perform really strongly towards that back end of the
Speaker 3: year and might end up being a top ten sort
Speaker 3: of mid so priced in that bracket, good fixture. We've
Speaker 3: talked about them having a really good buy. It's only
Speaker 3: them and the Saints on the buy later in the season,
Speaker 3: no early buy, so Andrew Brashaw under ten percent owned.
Speaker 3: People obviously preferring Caleb Soarrong as that midfield you know,
Speaker 3: premium from the Dockers. But I still really like Brayshaw
Speaker 3: as a play this season. Any comments there, guys, or
Speaker 3: should we move on to Jordan.
Speaker 2: He's in my team, Andy, Sir, I'm one of the
Speaker 2: eight or nine percent. Yeah, I really like him.
Speaker 1: I think every near one hundred and twenty sort of
Speaker 1: post buy last year, and it seems like early in
Speaker 1: his career he maybe copped a few tags and he
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily deal with all that well. But whether he's
Speaker 1: improved on that or the taggers of just now targeting
Speaker 1: so wrong, so it doesn't seem to be really an
Speaker 1: issue for him anymore.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, I really like him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think last year was carrying a bit
Speaker 7: of an injury, had a bit of a knee as well,
Speaker 7: and apparently something with his toe as well. So yeah,
Speaker 7: if he's over that as well, then that's a massive boost.
Speaker 7: And with those extra guys in the midfield as well,
Speaker 7: you think he's going to just yeah, not get that
Speaker 7: tag targeting to be a bit more off the chain.
Speaker 7: So and that three you have that awesome buy as well.
Speaker 7: So it's a great pick.
Speaker 4: Sweet, I love it.
Speaker 3: I think they seemingly like to play Hayden Young as
Speaker 3: that forward rolling into the midfield, and they did that
Speaker 3: a little bit more towards the end of last year
Speaker 3: as well. So as a person that you know has
Speaker 3: previously maybe sacrificed a bit of time to go on
Speaker 3: the wing, I think that's clearly Hayden Young's being that
Speaker 3: guy at the moment that's not playing as the pure
Speaker 3: midfielder at every stoppage and sort of sacrificing a little
Speaker 3: bit of his game. So I think Brayshaw, now you know,
Speaker 3: this year could be the year where we see him
Speaker 3: go you know, one fifteen to one twenty and joins
Speaker 3: the wrong in that sort of bracket. So pretty keen
Speaker 3: on him. Jordan, your final pick in this little pod draft, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I might sit with the Frio theme and Sean Darcy.
Speaker 3: He's at eight percent there.
Speaker 7: I know you're a big fan of him, DOSSI, he's
Speaker 7: actually my team at the moment. Obviously comes a lot
Speaker 7: of injury risk, but some of the photos come out
Speaker 7: of the preseason looks he looks very fit, and he
Speaker 7: looks a totally different person, which is which is awesome
Speaker 7: to see because I think, you know, I guess, yeah,
Speaker 7: going back, those injury nikos probably let him down a
Speaker 7: little bit so he can get himself on the park
Speaker 7: and fit. I think he could be a great pick.
Speaker 7: It's a bit of a risk there, but you know,
Speaker 7: his history in Super Coach is that he scores super
Speaker 7: well when he broke out. He averaged one eighteen in
Speaker 7: twenty twenty one, which is absolutely insane, and even last
Speaker 7: year just being being injured and sort of playing low
Speaker 7: time on ground, if you take out one of the
Speaker 7: games that he did get injured, he averaged one oh five,
Speaker 7: So one oh four point nine and this is from
Speaker 7: you know, this is only from a hand for the
Speaker 7: games last year. So he just he scores really well
Speaker 7: in Super Coach, and I just think if he can
Speaker 7: get fit, I think he can prust at ninety eight.
Speaker 7: I think he can go one ten all things going right,
Speaker 7: and I think he's a really good value play. And
Speaker 7: I think the reason also I've been thinking about this is, yeah,
Speaker 7: I guess I usually like to pay out for the
Speaker 7: rucks a Cherry or a Gorn, or a Team English
Speaker 7: or a Marshall. But I think with this new flex
Speaker 7: position that's come in, it's really given me that thought
Speaker 7: of Okay, maybe I can start Sean Darcy in the flex,
Speaker 7: I can still end up trading him, or I still
Speaker 7: can get.
Speaker 2: Those top guys in the ruck. I still have a Cherry.
Speaker 7: He gives you the extra flexibility of not locking in
Speaker 7: him for the rest of the year, like I could
Speaker 7: play him in the flex position, so that's why I've
Speaker 7: been thinking about it. Also has that great buy, so
Speaker 7: it's just one I'm watching and yeah, the preseason photos
Speaker 7: look amazing.
Speaker 2: It just seems to have I know, Doss, you've been
Speaker 2: sending me a lot of the photo.
Speaker 4: You've said a few tell you worry about that.
Speaker 7: So yeah, eight percent, I thought, yeah, he's Yeah, he's
Speaker 7: I thought he actually might be a bit higher than that.
Speaker 7: So it's interesting to see he's coming at eight percent
Speaker 7: because I think I've seen on quite a few teams
Speaker 7: he's been slotted there or in that flex position.
Speaker 3: So yeah, big Shrek, big shredded Shrek coming in. It's
Speaker 3: another mention Sean Darcy. This preseason, we love it. Let's
Speaker 3: see if he can maintain that injury free preseason heading
Speaker 3: in two season twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Alright, out round out this pod draft for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to pick someone who's what's the lowest
Speaker 1: number we've had so far. I've got a one point
Speaker 1: six percent, so we've had a couple of round that mark.
Speaker 1: But this is a guy that I probably would not
Speaker 1: consider starting in my starting team, but I will be
Speaker 1: keeping going to own him during the year, and that
Speaker 1: is Noah Anderson, midfielder from Gold Coast price at five
Speaker 1: seventy four K. We talked about it all last year,
Speaker 1: anyone who followed any of our content just it all
Speaker 1: comes down to pretty much where he plays.
Speaker 2: Looking at the numbers.
Speaker 1: Last year, playing at People First the Stadium, he averaged
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty two over nine games, which is
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. So you can figure out what his average
Speaker 1: evere else was because he finished about one hundred and
Speaker 1: five overall.
Speaker 2: And this year, so gone through and had to look
Speaker 2: at the fixture.
Speaker 1: He plays there eight times plus in opening round, but
Speaker 1: five of those come after the Gold Coast round fourteen
Speaker 1: by including a rematch there with the Tigers in round
Speaker 1: twenty one.
Speaker 2: He does get Richmond earlier in the year too, which.
Speaker 1: Punish myself by going back and look at his full
Speaker 1: career scores very Richmond. Every single game he's ever played
Speaker 1: against Richmond, he scored one twenty six, one fifty four,
Speaker 1: one forty four, two and one twenty eight. So how
Speaker 1: many goals after the siron Now here's a couple in
Speaker 1: there which boosted some of those numbers as well. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's you know, sort of playing the fixure,
Speaker 1: I guess, and we'll see how he's what his price
Speaker 1: might be, you know, around the Gold Coast buy but
Speaker 1: if we're looking for a final sort of midfield upgrade there,
Speaker 1: or maybe he's sort of a is he twenty third
Speaker 1: man in flex or something, he could be one to
Speaker 1: keep in mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the classic stitch up of that of that by
Speaker 3: round just avoiding those players. But as Jordan said, he
Speaker 3: you know, you've you've started players and you've ignored those
Speaker 3: buy rounds when it's a player that you're passionate about
Speaker 3: going sort of the extra mile.
Speaker 4: Could you do that with a with a Gold Coast player?
Speaker 3: I'm just interested to your thoughts, honest and even you know,
Speaker 3: extend this to a Sam Flanders in that premium defender
Speaker 3: slot as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think the year before when I did start Flanners
Speaker 7: year that four status and he had just had so
Speaker 7: much upside that I just had to, like, I had
Speaker 7: to start him.
Speaker 2: Whereas Noah is sort of price you'd have to have things.
Speaker 7: You have to be really hot on him to be
Speaker 7: going like his price is at one o six, we
Speaker 7: really confident he could go one fifteen one twenty. That's
Speaker 7: probably the only reason that I haven't consider him because
Speaker 7: they have that round three by and they don't I
Speaker 7: think because of that, the price won't move until after that.
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's probably the only thing I think. For me,
Speaker 7: it's just those value guys like Flanders was the one.
Speaker 7: But then yeah, I guess I think I saw one
Speaker 7: of your team's Dostin Flanders is in one of your
Speaker 7: sides there and I said, that's fifty k. So of
Speaker 7: the options, there's just there's not as many options in
Speaker 7: the defense. It probably gives me a like, I like
Speaker 7: it a bit more, whereas the midfield we just have
Speaker 7: so many options. But Noah is, yeah, a great selection,
Speaker 7: and you know he's got that ceiling, doesn't he. If
Speaker 7: you can get him on that right ceiling, on that
Speaker 7: right run or even as a VC, he can go
Speaker 7: absolutely massive. So even over the years, like I have,
Speaker 7: I think I had him in twenty. Yeah, I've had
Speaker 7: him or I considered him heavily, Yeah, over those those
Speaker 7: years that I've been up there, because he's just a
Speaker 7: you get him on the right run, like you said
Speaker 7: at home, and he's just awesome and you'd hope goldcos improved.
Speaker 7: Like I think ifs is going to start winning more
Speaker 7: games and hope they can improve on the dimmer, that's
Speaker 7: only going to help him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to our's point, to your point, how like
Speaker 3: you know, not many people are starting him, probably due
Speaker 3: to that buy and due to the name, but it
Speaker 3: also means he's going to be a point of difference
Speaker 3: to start, you know, when he is passed that buy
Speaker 3: and he's going to retain that pods status for a while,
Speaker 3: you'd think, so, one to watch him, maybe one to
Speaker 3: jump on early if you are really keen on him,
Speaker 3: so you can jump on and enjoy the ride.
Speaker 1: So and if maybe they have some of those they
Speaker 1: travel a bit more earlier on and his price comes
Speaker 1: down here one to five hundred k or something, that's
Speaker 1: when we could snap him up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, jump on the home the home run whenever he's
Speaker 3: got a goffle and a row there. All right, Well,
Speaker 3: I think that's that's a good, good hour line of
Speaker 3: the ownership percentages at the moment in Team Picker. Yeah,
Speaker 3: those were exclusive numbers on the Super Coach Official podcast.
Speaker 1: I mentioned a couple of others just to finish off
Speaker 1: some good names under one percent. I just thought it'd
Speaker 1: be worth just you know, we're not going to spend
Speaker 1: too long on them, but just curious who's really getting
Speaker 1: overlooked this year. I mean, Josh Uncle is in one
Speaker 1: point four percent of teams. Just nobody points to pick
Speaker 1: him anymore, but again early by obviously it doesn't help,
Speaker 1: but we know how well he can score if we
Speaker 1: get down under one percent. Toby Dan Curvis in zero
Speaker 1: point nine to five percent of teams.
Speaker 3: I was not very proud owner last year towards the
Speaker 3: back end of the year when he got injured, but
Speaker 3: had a massive run there for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was great.
Speaker 1: Josh Dacos in zero point four percent of teams, so
Speaker 1: a little bit of talk about him floating cross half
Speaker 1: back for the Pies. Jie Carwell great pick last year
Speaker 1: in zero point six percent of teams, so people were
Speaker 1: absolutely gone cold on him as this Rory lead absolutely
Speaker 1: super coach champ of years gone by zero point three
Speaker 1: percent of teams. So I mean, do you want an
Speaker 1: absolute pot Although I think there's talk he's training back
Speaker 1: at half back, but maybe that's not the worst thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, we know we can score bag dear.
Speaker 3: Yeah I had one as well. Just speaking of the
Speaker 3: phantom earlier in the show. Be remiss of me to
Speaker 3: say he said this guy was a lock in his
Speaker 3: team last year towards the back end of last year.
Speaker 3: He's already taken that back and said he's not picking him,
Speaker 3: but zero point five six percent for Jamara hugil Hagen,
Speaker 3: who doesn't have to so high.
Speaker 5: He was so strong on that too.
Speaker 4: He was very wrong on starting him.
Speaker 3: Actually, one player I really like who's about three percent
Speaker 3: and he didn't talk about was Sam Darcy another Bulldogs,
Speaker 3: So another one that's the phantoms man one point six
Speaker 3: seven percent owned. I reckon this guy was hot on
Speaker 3: a lot of people's RDAR. George Wardlaw only one point
Speaker 3: six to seven owned this year, so didn't have the
Speaker 3: breakout last year. Still cheaply priced people just worried maybe
Speaker 3: about that midfield shakeup at North Melbourne. But is there
Speaker 3: any other names you had Jordan before we.
Speaker 4: Wrap it up?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think Locky Neil he wasn't on
Speaker 7: the one percenters, but he was I think five percent,
Speaker 7: So I think, you know, maybe the arrival of will Ashcroft,
Speaker 7: there's sort of going off the Dunky and the nil
Speaker 7: hype there and the other one was just Jays Simpkin.
Speaker 2: I know there's a bit of a roll that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's there's a bit more depth there at the Kangaroos,
Speaker 7: but he is a forward and he's at one percent,
Speaker 7: but he did pop some nice numbers at the end
Speaker 7: of last year, so it all depends on the role
Speaker 7: for him. But he's the captain, so he always just
Speaker 7: wants to keep an eye on there as a forward.
Speaker 3: Interesting stuff. Well, thanks everyone for listening and thanks for
Speaker 3: joining us. Jordie, where can we find you if we're
Speaker 3: wanting to follow along your journey this year and get
Speaker 3: some tips and tricks for super coasting? Is you eleventh
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three and last year what two ninety eighth?
Speaker 4: I think, so pretty high finishes there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just on Twitter, it's just Jordan de Center, so
Speaker 7: you can find me there. I'll probably head out support
Speaker 7: training over the next month or two and I might
Speaker 7: do some tweets and yeah I can hopefully I live
Speaker 7: down right next to Albert and overwhere the Port train,
Speaker 7: so I might try and give some port inside. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I'll just at Jordan the Center on Twitter. I'll post
Speaker 7: my updates throughout the year.
Speaker 4: Beautiful.
Speaker 2: Who the kick ins? That's what we want to know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the big question.
Speaker 5: Shane Barrel, if you didn't even mention him for the pod.
Speaker 3: App unbelievable, saying well, I'm going to have to get
Speaker 3: some footage of you as well. I think that Jordy
Speaker 3: instill some of that content when you're down at training.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that off air. Thanks everyone for listening,
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