WEBVTT - SuperCoach is OPEN!!! Tips with the fantasy GOAT Moreira's Magic! 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:08.080 Welcome back to the official Supercoach AFL podcast and one 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.320 of the most fun shows of the preseason. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:11.959 This is our pods pod. 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.320 Supercoach will be open for everyone very soon, but Supercoach 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.200 Plus subscribers have had access to the early team Picker 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.239 four a month now and we have some exclusive data 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.040 on what they've been doing. Stay tuned as we reveal 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.960 the most selected players in Super Coach AFL for twenty 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.920 twenty five and the hidden gems who are being overlooked 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.720 by coaches so far. And there are plenty of interesting 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.040 names to talk about. A couple of nuggets off the top. 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.360 Two of the top three scoring defenders from last season 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:41.600 are in under ten percent of teams as we speak, 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:43.720 and a player who finished twenty twenty four with an 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.199 average one hundred and sixteen point eight and featured in 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.320 sixty three percent of teams by the end of the 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.120 year is in just three point five percent heading into 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.720 the new season. I'm your host, Al Payton, joined again 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.160 by DOSSI. Welcome back. I know you got hold of 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.400 these very sensitive documents a few days ago and have 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:00.680 been boring over them. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.360 Yeah, just really exciting to see some exclusive data. 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:06.840 Our coming our way. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:10.120 The place to get all your exclusive numbers this season 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.760 is the Supercoach Official podcast of course. Ou So, yeah, 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.560 came to look at some of the numbers that have 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.120 been hidden on team pickers so far. 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:17.039 Yeah. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.440 Absolutely, And Dan Badden is back with us. Now, Dan, 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.600 did we try and brand you as the podmaster at 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:22.640 one stage a couple of years ago? 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:23.880 Didn't stick? I don't think. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:24.560 I think we. 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.440 I think that was one of my first ventures into 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.000 the super Coaches six years ago, right out the pods 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.520 for for each position. Unfortunate I didn't actually pick any 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.560 of them because I usually go cookie cutter, so it 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.319 didn't last long. But yeah, looking forward to pouring through 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.040 and there are some surprising names. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.800 Both at the top and the bottom of this. Yeah, 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.200 looking forward to getting into and. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.640 We'll do that surely with our very special guest, the 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.440 Supercoach Guru, Jordan Dessenta is with us. He finished eleventh 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.600 overall in twenty twenty three and then backed up last 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.360 year with a top three hundred finish. That's of more 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.000 than one hundred and eighty five thousand players in AFL classics, 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.440 so obviously knows what he's doing. Can teach us a 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.440 thing or two about super coach Jordan. Great to have 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:05.280 you on the show. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:06.640 Thanks so much for having me boys. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.200 Yeah, great to be here and yeah already so keen 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.359 for the twenty twenty five season. I think when the 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.880 team peg opens, I've made a team within about ten minutes, 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.440 so so be keen to chat about all the ownership numbers. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.960 Can you share any insights just quickly on maybe you know, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.679 more of a broader perspective on how you're attacking this year. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.239 Yeah, I think like my strategy of the last couple 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.480 of years has been, like I like to save as 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.800 many trades as I can, so I think both years 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.480 at the back at the end of the year, I've 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.360 been able to use those trades when other coaches have 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.200 been out of trades. So I guess the philosophy as 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.519 I try and pick players that I think obviously there's 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:40.600 a you know, you've got to take a bit of 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.040 a risk there with hopefully there's players that can stay 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.639 injury free. But I guess, you know, even if they've 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.000 got to buy and stuff like that, if they're underpriced 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.920 player that I think can be there for the whole year, 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.080 then that's going to save me a trade from getting 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.720 them in later in the year. So for example, last year, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.000 I started Sam Flanders. He had a buy and I 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:58.880 think there was a lot of people that brought him in. 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.440 I think it was round four or five when Goldkos 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.000 finished that, but he was underpriced and I just thought, 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.000 that's going to save me a trade because I can 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.639 see him popping, and obviously he did that. I think 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.240 he went it, you know, over one hundred and ten. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.400 He's one of our top defenders this year. So it's 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.360 just stuff like that that I've been looking at for 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:15.839 this year. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:17.679 So yeah, yeah, that's great. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.280 It's yeah, it's very easy to get sucked into the 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.359 gunning for the hot start early and with players he 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.160 might have a good early drawer or something like that, 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:25.840 but in the end, your overall rank at the end 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.360 of the season is cumulative points over twenty three twenty 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:30.119 four rounds. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.720 So if you get someone who you know, we might 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:33.600 talk about a bit later. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.720 But I was talking with Dan Off very about Nick Martin, 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.320 who was a bit of a frustrating own, but if 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:38.400 you look at him at the end of the year, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.640 he's scored the seventh or eighth most points of any defender, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.880 so he's turned out to be a great selection. So 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.520 that's something maybe to keep in mind this year. And 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.360 just speaking generally, do you like to deviate from the 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.800 pack and go with several pods in your starting team? 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.360 Usually yeah, I think I'd like to pick like one 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.720 or two pods. I think I think, yes. 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:59.600 I mean some of the picks that will talk about, 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.280 especially the forward line is so valuable this year, I 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.920 almost feel like I probably will go with the pack 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.240 on the forward line because there's so many limited options there. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.440 I probably won't go for a pod there. I'll probably 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.520 look at the pod in a different position this year, 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.640 whether it's the rucker or the midfield, the defense as well, 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.000 I feel like there's not as many options, so I'll 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.320 probably look for that pot in the. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:20.479 Mid or the ruck. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.600 And yeah, I think over the last couple of years, 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.080 probably just one or two pods. I really think that 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.960 if you can start your side, you know, straight up 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.360 quite solid. It's that trading game and jumping on players 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.200 that you think are looking to break out when you've 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.400 seen a bit more data and the role after a 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:37.120 couple of weeks. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.200 So yeah, I look to start one or two, I 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.160 reckon Hopefully we want to find one for a year. 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:44.600 A bit of a drive by there for Dossie two 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.159 talking about saving trays for the end of the year. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.800 Yeah, it's a rough one, but I did actually sneak 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.719 peak show Jordan my latest Team Picker, Team and he 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.640 reckons I've got the fifty k, so I've got the 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:03.680 all from the Guru himself, So watch out, all right. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.440 A reminder everybody, smash these like and subscribe buttons wherever 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.720 you're listening to this, or if you're watching on YouTube, 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.919 go to Code Sports page and you can see all 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.160 our podcast episodes there and lots of other great content 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.240 coming your way in twenty twenty five. If you've listened 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.240 to our preseason shows, you'll know we've followed a draft 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.760 style format of going around the table to nominate players. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.200 We'll do that a bit again today. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:23.680 You also know, if you've been listening, that I've got 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.000 the order wrong pretty much in every show, so my 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:27.120 delegate that to. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:28.000 Dossie when we get to it. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.040 But we'll start with the list of the most popular players, 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.800 so we'll just go straight off the top and talk 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.400 about the top twenty. I think we'll get to most 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.080 owned so far in the Team Picker and you talked 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.000 about the forward line and the value on off of there, 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:42.839 and it's interesting because when we do this early in 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.960 the year, quite often it's the rookies that are right 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.120 up the top because everybody picks the hot rookies and 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.560 then you sort of go from there. But this year 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.279 the most they're nearly all forwards and certainly in the 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.760 very top end and that mid price sort of value bracket. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.839 So Bailey Smith is in more than eighty percent of teams. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.880 He's the most owned player currently and not far ahead 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:06.279 of Caleb Daniel at seventy seven percent, Jack McCrae seventy percent. 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.320 So there's your top three, all mid price forwards, so 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:13.200 most people sort of starting their team from there. Number four, 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.599 we've got a first of our rookies, I guess Levy 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.240 Ashcroft who's a mid at sixty six percent. Jason Horn 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.599 France is also sixty six percent, so there's another forward. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.479 Then we get Tristan Cherry, number one ruckman so far 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.400 in terms of popularity. He's also won sixty six percent. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.679 Jagger Smith another rookie, sixty five percent, your man Dossi 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.160 bo Allen over in the West at sixty four and 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.120 sad L Hawley at the bombers. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:40.400 Is it run out the top ten, I've got one more. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.719 I think I've got one more, and that is Kitty 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.240 Coleman at the line, so very very cheap defender who 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.479 we know mister Hall season last year and will be 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.120 amazing value this year. So lots of mid prices in 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:55.520 that list. Join anything there that surprises you based on 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:56.279 what we've seen. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.600 So far, Yeah, I don't think anything surprises me. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.080 Obviously, there's a high draft pick those ones there, like 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.839 from Levi Ashcroft down, and I think those forwards, you know, 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.479 they're just so valuable like Batty Smith, Cave, Daniel. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:07.400 McCrae, Rn Francis. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:07.720 Yeah. 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:09.480 I mean when I did the team picker, that were 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.240 the first ones that I picked. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.480 This is incredible value there. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.480 I know Hornet is priced at that ninety nine one hundred, 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.560 but I just think, yeah, he's that perfect super coach 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.120 player and he's going to I think he's going to 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.000 take his game to another level. So he was my 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.720 first f one locked in. Yeah, I guess it's just 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.920 on those rookies. If they can get names around one, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.800 that might change some of the ownership numbers there. But yeah, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.960 obviously you can't see why not that they're in a 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:33.960 lot of people's teams. 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.160 Right now, we'll just go to the next batch of ten, 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.480 and that is Sid Draper at the Crows at sixty 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.160 one per cent ownership, Harry Sheesel sixty percent, so people 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.480 prepared to play up there. In defense, Nick Deakos interesting 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:50.120 fifty seven percent picking him. Then the Bond comes in 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.360 at number sixteen. I think in the most popular and 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.320 that's yeah, obviously the most expensive player in the game, 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.239 but with good reason. Also fifty seven percent. Toby Trevali 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:03.280 another rookie in defense, fifty two. Elijah hewittt Ford line 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.679 rookie or forward mid, which is the Eagles. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:06.320 Hopefully he gets a. 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.320 Clear run this year with injury, he'll be a great 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.120 pick at believe one hundred and twenty two. K Josh 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.400 Smilly at the Tigers comes in next, also just over 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.320 the fifty percent, so then we just dip under fifty 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.320 two Callum Mills Clayton Oliver at forty four percent own 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.720 so yeah, we can discuss our feelings on him. That's 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.000 a really interesting one. And running at the top twenty 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.760 Isaac Kekoo, how do you pronounce that got it that 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.960 two attemps are going to both roll Dan, I mean 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:31.720 a quick one on him. 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.480 What do you think as his prospect? Is a super 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:34.000 coach rookie. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.000 We know the Bombers have been crying out for play 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:38.680 in that role, so hopefully he gets to go early. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.320 Can he score some points for us? 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.080 I mean we've seen Nick Watson and josh uh Shelley 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:47.400 have sort of varying results from a super coach perspective. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.280 Obviously Nick Watson got better as the year went on. Yeah, 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.040 it'll be interesting to see how he goes. He had 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.440 some good numbers at junior level because he was spending 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:57.800 fair bit of time in the midfield. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:08:59.520 I like Dick Watson. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.160 He's a little bit an accurate in front of goal, 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.959 so that they'll be a bit of a watch. But yeah, 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:08.040 it's certainly he's certainly got potential there. There's one guy 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.280 I want to get to a bit later who's a 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.520 serious pod who I think is a much better forward 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:13.080 line rookie. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.880 Pick a bit of mature aga, a little bit of. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.040 A hint there, but yeah, I wouldn't be locking in 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:24.480 CaCO just yet. You'd say he's probably a fairly certain 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.040 starter for the bombers who are crying out as you said, 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.000 al for that sort of position type. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.560 But yeah, just the role is a little bit of. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.800 A question mark for me and Dossie. What do you 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.120 make of Clary coming in at forty four percent owned? 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.560 Is that higher or lower than what you might have thought? 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.959 Obviously the price is amazing, but what's he going to 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:43.760 produce on the field. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:45.560 That's a real tough one. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.040 I've been pretty pretty staunch in my belief that I 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.960 think he's basically I must have if he's having a 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.640 full pre season under his belt. So probably not surprised 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.719 at the numbers, but also a little bit surprised that 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.760 people are for giving so easily from last season and 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:03.800 because of his team picker at the moment and you've 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.160 sort of got a long time till the season starts. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.000 Some surprise that so many people are just on board, 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.319 But as you said, the price is just you know, 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.240 we've gone through his numbers in the past. I think 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.199 it was three one to twenty plus seasons before last 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:20.000 season's eighty four, So with a full preseason, you'd think, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:21.520 you know, is he ever going to get back to 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.840 one twenty? Maybe not, But even if he doesn't, one 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.679 hundred plus should be a solid bet. King to know 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:32.280 Jordan's perspectives on Clayton Oliver Clary. You're high on him 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:33.280 this year, Jordan. 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:34.880 Yeah, I think I just need to see probably that 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.320 preseason game, just see how he's running and how fit 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.559 he is. I actually did last year. I did actually 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.199 bring him in after that one forty. I think DOSSI 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.920 you Mayde's done the same. I remember chatting about it 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.400 and then he sort of yeah, he sort of just 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.679 didn't quite follow on from that last year and obviously 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.160 was carrying some of those niggles and stuff. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:53.839 So I just want to see that in the preseason. 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.200 He wasn't actually one that I picked straight away, but 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.600 I have added him after seeing some photos at Melbourne training. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.520 So I think it's just those preseason games that we 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.800 get to have a look at the community series. If 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:06.640 I see Clary and then he's looking fit, then I 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.360 think I agree with him. He's a must have at 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.400 his price, and you can go out one hundred plus 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:12.760 and that's a I think it's going to be a 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.360 great M four M five range for super Coach teams 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.679 and he doesn't have a buy as well, which is 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:19.480 in there at Andy. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:25.040 Yeah, yeah, it's very nicely Danny, you on the Nick 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:29.120 Dakos train this year's I think he's got the giants, 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.320 which would be probably Toby Bedford in opening round, which 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.920 will be a bit awkward. Obviously those points don't count 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.000 towards super coach, but might affect his price. Maybe people 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.560 thinking they can get him a little bit cheaper after 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:39.079 the early buy. 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.000 Is that trying to get too clever. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.120 I don't have him my first team, but that's purely 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.920 because of the injury news coming out of Collingwood that 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.520 he has had a bit of a delayed pre season. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.560 Just want to see that he is fully fit. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.120 I think even in eighty percent, Nick Dakos can go 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.439 at one, fifteen, one twenty. But yeah, as you said, 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:04.120 Toby Bedford and opening round is a difficult assignment for him. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.959 But yeah, he's definitely one who's like, yeah, if he's 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.120 fully fit, I think you've probably got to pick him. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:12.920 But yeah, it's just the injury watch for me at 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:13.280 the moment. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.440 And are you just paying up six hundred and eighty 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:17.839 one K for the bond? Does he. 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.280 Yes? Probably? I don't know. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.880 It's a tough question when I'm weighing up someone like 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.440 a Tristan Sherry in that spot as well, And I 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.200 don't know if I want to pay that much for 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.800 two big premiums. But again I'm going to throw to 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.400 the guy who's you know, always at the point end 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.920 in Super Coach. He's paying that much for two premium 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.960 big dogs. Is that too much to pay? And how 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.080 have you typically you know, done well in your successful seasons? 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.000 Yeah, I mean I've studied bond for those last two 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.360 years that I did come high. I had bond and 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.040 one for both of them, and it just saves that trade. 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.000 And he's just that level above. I think he went above. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.080 Was it maybe HA have an Andrew K last year 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.640 or the year before and he's at six point eighty. 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.199 I know it is a high price to pay, but 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:04.880 it is the bond. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.559 I guess. It's just that question is will he regress it? All? 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.480 There's talks about I think I was listening to the 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.880 pod before and we you know, there's some people think 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:13.520 you can go to another level, and I think maybe 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:14.160 it was UDOSK. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.560 He's wants that brown low. So it's just that sort 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:17.719 of he does look pretty. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.120 Fit at the moment in my team, I've actually paid 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.719 up for Bond and Butters as my M one M two. 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.240 They both don't have the buy they Yeah, I think 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:29.360 they can go one twenty plus. 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.600 I wouldn't be surprised if I'm pretty hot on Butters. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.760 I think he can. Actually he could even I don't know. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.280 It's a bit of a big call, but I think 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.199 he could even take take the M one off of Bonds, 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.720 depending on what happens. I think just with the Ports 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.600 game style, he just seems to get those points with 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.640 you know, there's obviously when there's games on the line 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.800 and stuff, he gets these extra points and he seems 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.679 to get scaled up a little bit. 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.360 So I really like Butters for that factor. Just beware, folks, 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.760 this is a port fan speaking as well. We must 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.400 be always take that with a grain of salt. But 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:02.760 no great insights there. 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.920 I was looking at potentially fading on Butters to start with, 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.040 but then I looked at their fixture too, and they've 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:11.880 got a really nice run early in the season. They've 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.000 got no early buy, they've a really nice by in 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.760 the middle of the year. So if you don't start him, 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.319 it m'd be pretty hard to try and find a 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:19.400 way to get him in. I don't know if his 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.040 price is going to come down too much. And that's 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.120 what we saw with Bond certainly last year. So if 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.360 we jump now into the pods section of the show 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.160 and you are to himblewaver to you to get this 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:29.840 in the format right this time. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:34.240 Yeah, so I think just to sort of frame what 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.160 we're calling a pod here. So we've looked at the 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.560 ownership numbers and I said to the guys, you know, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.320 roughly under ten percent is what we're looking at here. 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.720 There's obviously we can go even more niche if we want, so, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.320 kind of bonus points if you can go even below 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.760 five percent, maybe below one percent would even be extra 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.440 bonus points. But I've done the little I've done the 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:54.760 spin the wheel, and you're not going to like it. 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.800 Al you're coming up the rear again last so Dan 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:03.040 you're number one, second, Jordan's third, and yeah, our fourth pick. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.040 So again, this isn't a proper draft. This is just 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.600 who we want to talk about as our favorite points 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.320 of difference, and it is super early, so we're fully 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.520 aware that these pods are going to change when the 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.280 game does open. And this is just a really nice 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.440 indication of some players that we're high on that might 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.520 not be talked about in the super coach community as 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:22.280 much at the moment. 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:23.720 So, Dan, do you want to take us away with 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:24.800 your first one. 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.840 Two number one picks from two podcasts? No pressure for me. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.640 I'm going to go again for a fairly vanilla one. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.320 I was very surprised to see this guy in the 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.720 POD's sort of section in their less than ten percent, 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.840 and that's Tom Stewart. I think a lot may have 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.720 been put off by the fact that he was tagged 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.520 a lot last year and targeted. He's only in seven 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.520 point eight percent of teams currently. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:53.960 He's in mind starting squad. 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.640 Might be the geelong bias talking from my work down 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:00.160 the Highway, but I think that you know, they he 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.120 sort of proved in that last eight seven or eight weeks, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.120 you know, Chris Scott moving him into the midfield, that 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.240 he could beat the tag and he was just about 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.200 best on in the first half of that prelim final 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:17.760 as well. So I think he's he provides some serious value. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.960 I think he's at about farmer and twenty k at 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.720 the moment, and you're looking for value there. Obviously, there's 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.760 a lot of top price defenders. Yeah, yeah, Sheesels, Luke 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:30.680 Grinds and the like. Well, Tom Stewart comes at about 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.480 one hundred hundred grand cheaper, so I think he provides 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.800 some value. And the only question mark is where they 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.560 can beat that tag. But you know, Chris Scott has 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.400 that you know, true cup his sleeve to move into 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.440 the midfield, and he showed he could score pretty well 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:43.320 in that role as well. 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:45.920 Where do you see him playings this year? Because he 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.800 gets thrown around a little bit. Last year we were 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:50.160 you know, there was some hope he might even be 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.720 a dppeak, I mean into twenty twenty five. Didn't quite 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:54.600 get that. But do we do you think you'll see 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:55.680 him back in the centate quick? 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:57.040