WEBVTT - The Bolt Report | 30 September

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Vault Report.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good evening and welcome to The Bolt Report. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>James McPherson. Here's what's coming up tonight. How is it

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<v Speaker 2>that an Islamic preacher who said Muslims should take up

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<v Speaker 2>arms against Jews and Christians seems to have gotten away

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<v Speaker 2>with it? Pauline Hanson is determined not to let that

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<v Speaker 2>one go, and she'll join me in a moment. Everyone

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<v Speaker 2>knows things are bad in Victoria, but it's even worse

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<v Speaker 2>than you think. Victoria's just been ranked the worst managed

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<v Speaker 2>state in the Western world. Leith Van Onselen will join

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<v Speaker 2>me later to explain why. And why are so many

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<v Speaker 2>Australian schools erasing the name of European settlers from their

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<v Speaker 2>sporting houses, replacing them with Indigenous names for plants and animals?

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<v Speaker 3>My panel will get into that shortly.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, Senator David Shoebridge has been voted in as

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<v Speaker 2>the new leader of the Australian Greens. Faced with the

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<v Speaker 2>choice of far-left Sarah Hansen-Young, extreme-left David Shoebridge and intergalactic-left

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<v Speaker 2>Maureen Faruqi, the Greens opted for the sensible centre.

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<v Speaker 4>For the ballot of leader, the three nominees were David Shoebridge,

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<v Speaker 4>Merrin Faruqi and Sarah Hansen-Young. The results on primary votes

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<v Speaker 4>were David Shoebridge, six votes, Merrin Faruqi, three votes, Sarah Hansen-Young,

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<v Speaker 4>two votes. David Shoebridge has been elected as the new

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<v Speaker 4>leader of the Australian Greens.

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<v Speaker 2>The deputy position was filled by little-known Victorian Steph Hodgson's May.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an extraordinary ballot in which more than half

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens party room members put themselves forward for leadership roles.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what to make of that. Does it

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<v Speaker 3>demonstrate just how much talent they have?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, if you're in the market for a champagne socialist,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd find no better one-stop shop than the Greens' recently

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<v Speaker 2>renovated $ 2. 2 million parliamentary meeting room.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe it demonstrates how bereft they are of talent.

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<v Speaker 2>There simply wasn't an obvious standout candidate. It was less

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<v Speaker 2>a leadership election than a battle of musical chairs where

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<v Speaker 2>literally everybody bought their own chair. Maureen Faruqi, she believed

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<v Speaker 2>she was the obvious standout, despite attracting only three primary votes,

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<v Speaker 2>one of which would have been herself. Never one to complain, though,

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<v Speaker 2>she immediately congratulated the new leader.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I have experienced racism in the Greens. The level

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<v Speaker 5>of racism that is directed at you, though, when you

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<v Speaker 5>are a public figure, a person of color and a woman,

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<v Speaker 5>where the intersections of sexism and racism become really visceral

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<v Speaker 5>is just another level.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, that was Maureen Faruqi complaining about racism in the

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<v Speaker 2>Greens back in 2023. Here's the gracious statement she posted

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<v Speaker 2>today on Instagram saying, this morning I stepped down as

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<v Speaker 2>deputy leader of the Greens to put my hand up

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<v Speaker 2>for leader. Of course, I'm disappointed the party room chose

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<v Speaker 2>another direction and I know many others will feel the

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<v Speaker 2>same way. I'm sure many others do, just none of

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<v Speaker 2>her colleagues. Her statement continued, I've long advocated publicly that

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<v Speaker 2>Greens leaders should be elected by members with enough time

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<v Speaker 2>for thoughtful deliberation on who is best to grow our party.

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<v Speaker 2>I share members' frustration that the opposite happened this week,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, I think, her way of saying, congratulations, David Shoebridge,

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<v Speaker 2>you have my full support. Oh, hang on, the statement

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<v Speaker 2>continued with this. I believe I can best play my

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<v Speaker 2>part outside the constraints of the leadership team.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was it, which may be part.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the reason why all but two of her colleagues

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<v Speaker 2>declined to vote for her. Just on Marine Faruqi, we

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<v Speaker 2>know what she's been like as deputy leader. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>imagine what she'll be like without quote unquote constraints?

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<v Speaker 3>Start the popcorn.

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<v Speaker 2>While Marine Faruqi, who hates Donald Trump, was complaining the

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<v Speaker 2>election was unfair, newly elected leader David Shoebridge was gently

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<v Speaker 2>reminding Anthony Albanese that the Greens still exist.

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<v Speaker 6>We are not here to make the Labor Party any better.

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<v Speaker 6>The Greens are here to replace them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>The Greens are now promising to do to Labor what

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<v Speaker 2>One Nation are doing to the Coalition, which hilariously prompted

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<v Speaker 2>this response from Treasurer Jim Chalmers.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm told that he was particularly focused on the Labor

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<v Speaker 7>Party in his introductory remarks. I think it's really important.

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<v Speaker 7>that we focus on the risks posed to workers and

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<v Speaker 7>to our economy by One Nation, the Liberal Party and

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<v Speaker 7>the National Party.

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<v Speaker 2>I say that's hilarious because Jim Chalmers is sounding a

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<v Speaker 2>little like his colleagues in the Coalition who've been urging

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<v Speaker 2>One Nation to.

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<v Speaker 3>Focus on Labor.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently nobody likes having their own medicine prescribed back to them.

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<v Speaker 2>David Shoebridge continued with his attack on Labor, although I

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<v Speaker 2>thought this... Far be it from me to defend Anthony Albanese,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did think this bit was a little unfair.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the moment for the Greens to fill the

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<v Speaker 6>vacuum that has been left by the Labor Party rushing

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<v Speaker 6>to the right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure anyone could accuse the Albanese government of

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<v Speaker 2>rushing to the right, but perhaps that shows just how

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<v Speaker 2>far left the Greens really are. When you think that

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<v Speaker 2>pretending to care about immigration, defence and government spending is

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<v Speaker 2>rushing to the right, well, you're so far left, you've

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<v Speaker 2>broken the compass.

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<v Speaker 3>The new Greens leader carried.

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<v Speaker 2>On, saying the Albanese government was responsible for the rise

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<v Speaker 2>of One Nation.

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<v Speaker 6>Labor has created the circumstances for One Nation, and Labor

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<v Speaker 6>is not the answer. We know that One Nation didn't come,

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<v Speaker 6>didn't create itself. It's the classic post turtle. Sits on

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<v Speaker 6>a post. You know it didn't get there itself. You

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<v Speaker 6>wonder what it's doing there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering what a post-Turtle is, but I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good line.

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<v Speaker 2>And what Shoebridge lacks in common-sense policies, he certainly makes

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<v Speaker 2>up for in rhetorical flourish. And that's why Shoebridge will

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<v Speaker 2>at least be an improvement for the Greens on Adam Bant,

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<v Speaker 2>whose whiny demeanour irritated the electorate no end, and Larissa Waters, who...

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<v Speaker 2>always came across as the person elected to replace Adam

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<v Speaker 2>Bant because, well, she was as close to a normal

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<v Speaker 2>person as they could find in the Greens party room.

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<v Speaker 3>Shoebridge would send.

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<v Speaker 2>The country broke and leave us defenceless in the face

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<v Speaker 2>of foreign adversaries, but he'll always be good with a line.

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<v Speaker 6>I tell you what, as you travel around the country,

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<v Speaker 6>the call I'm not hearing is, what do we want?

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<v Speaker 6>Gradual change.

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<v Speaker 1>When do we want it?

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<v Speaker 6>In due course. That is the dead politics of Labor.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I tell you what, it is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating to watch the way Anthony Albanese handles this. David

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<v Speaker 2>Shoebridge promised to step things up between now and the

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<v Speaker 2>2028 election. And this next part of his press conference,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to admit, did make me smile.

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to cross the country. We're going to deliver

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<v Speaker 6>that sense of hope and opportunity that Australians are begging for.

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<v Speaker 6>And we are also going to meet the climate crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're going to cross the country and meet the

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<v Speaker 2>climate crisis. I guess they'll be crossing the country on

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<v Speaker 2>pushbike then. I mean, the new leader of the Greens

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<v Speaker 2>could drive across the country, but can you imagine how

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<v Speaker 2>much of a pain that's going to be? Now he's

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<v Speaker 2>the leader. Remember this scene from earlier in the year?

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<v Speaker 6>I was just pulled over by police on my way

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<v Speaker 6>into Mardi Gras at Nimbin.

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<v Speaker 8>Have a look at this footage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Senator David Shoebridge.

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<v Speaker 9>Is my name.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, OK, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, now when he's pulled over and asked for his name,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll need to say, yeah, Senator David Shoebridge, leader of

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian Greens, is my name, which is quite the mouthful,

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<v Speaker 2>though I suspect he'll rather enjoy saying it. Who says

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<v Speaker 2>leaders don't have their cross to bear? Shoebridge didn't mention

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<v Speaker 2>Palestine today, which I assume was an oversight on his part,

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<v Speaker 2>and probably confused Greens voters who've spent the past three

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<v Speaker 2>years thinking Greens was a reference to the Hamas flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Greens is supposed to be a reference to

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<v Speaker 2>the environment and David Shoebridge briefly remembered in his press

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<v Speaker 2>conference today to warn voters that this summer could potentially,

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<v Speaker 2>I dare say hopefully for the Greens, be the mother

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<v Speaker 2>of all disasters.

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<v Speaker 6>This summer could potentially be the mother of all El Ninos,

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<v Speaker 6>with floods and the disaster that that happens. And the

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<v Speaker 6>person I want to work with in a leadership team

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<v Speaker 6>to face down that climate crisis, to keep coal and

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<v Speaker 6>gas in the ground, is my dear colleague Steph Hodgins-May.

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<v Speaker 2>The mother of all El Ninos, we can only hope.

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<v Speaker 2>You've probably never heard of Steph Hodgson's May, and to

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<v Speaker 2>be fair, the former Greenpeace activist has only been in

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<v Speaker 2>the Parliament for two years.

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<v Speaker 11>I am part of a generation who has grown up

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<v Speaker 11>not having the sorts of opportunities to live a good

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<v Speaker 11>life that we deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>A 41-year-old federal senator on a base salary of $ 239, 000

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<v Speaker 2>a year complaining she's never had the opportunities to live

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<v Speaker 2>the good life that she deserved. She may be new,

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<v Speaker 2>but she'll go far in the Greens. Although I think

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<v Speaker 2>she should work on not smiling so much when warning

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<v Speaker 2>us we're staring down the barrel of impending climate doom.

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<v Speaker 11>I am looking forward to working with David to bring

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<v Speaker 11>a bold vision to confront the impending climate crisis that

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<v Speaker 11>is here now. As David said, we have the biggest

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<v Speaker 11>El Nino coming down the barrel.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Greens now have a new leader and David

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<v Speaker 2>Shoebridge now has two years to take his party from

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<v Speaker 2>the political wilderness to the promised land. Judging by today's speech,

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<v Speaker 2>he's planning to get there on a bicycle during an

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<v Speaker 2>El Nino. The interesting part, we'll be watching how Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Albanese responds. Well, joining me now is One Nation leader,

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<v Speaker 2>Pauline Hanson, or should I say turtle on a post?

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<v Speaker 3>Pauline, welcome to the program. I want to talk about David. Thanks, James.

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<v Speaker 2>David Shoebridge in a moment, but I want to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you first what you thought about Maureen Faruqi's dummy spit

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<v Speaker 2>after losing the vote.

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<v Speaker 12>It doesn't surprise me. She would be scathing. of having

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<v Speaker 12>a white, privileged, colonialist male take this position as leader

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<v Speaker 12>of the Greens. Here's, you know, over a coloured woman.

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<v Speaker 12>My God, how dare they do that? So I can

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<v Speaker 12>just imagine her, that's why she's angry about it. And

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<v Speaker 12>if she'd won it, she wouldn't be saying, oh, the

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<v Speaker 12>membership should be actually having their say in this. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 12>her colleagues didn't clearly want her. Three votes, one would

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<v Speaker 12>have been her own. So anyway, you know, to listen

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<v Speaker 12>to all the rhetoric that's coming out of Shoebridge's mouth

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<v Speaker 12>now is what I hear in the floor of parliament.

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<v Speaker 12>They have nothing to offer the people of Australia. They

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<v Speaker 12>want to open up the floodgates to mass migration, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>and then you've got the climate change debacle that's going on, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Great Barrier Reef.

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<v Speaker 12>The Great Barrier Reef is so pristine now. It's all

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<v Speaker 12>the fear-mongering that goes on all the time. And they

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<v Speaker 12>don't care about Australia. I rarely ever hear them standing up,

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<v Speaker 12>fighting for the ordinary average Australian out there. And it's

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<v Speaker 12>a real shame. But anyway, I think they'll fall into

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<v Speaker 12>a heap. The people are waking up to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you laughing when I introduced you as a

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<v Speaker 2>turtle on a post, and I know you'd be familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with what David Shoebridge said.

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<v Speaker 3>What is a turtle on a post, Pauline Hanson?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, actually, you'll have to explain it to me, because

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<v Speaker 12>I'm going to ask you for a please explain there,

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<v Speaker 12>because I don't know. How will you refer to me

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<v Speaker 12>as a turtle on a post? So anyway... Do you know?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't understand it either.

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<v Speaker 2>Although he did allude to the fact that he believes

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<v Speaker 2>if it wasn't for Labor's poor performance, there would be

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<v Speaker 2>no One Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Does he have a point there?

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<v Speaker 12>Look, I think it's been poor performance by both the

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<v Speaker 12>major political parties and the National Party over... you know,

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<v Speaker 12>a couple of the last decades, that people have actually

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<v Speaker 12>had a gutful of them and they don't see that

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<v Speaker 12>they've got the interests of the country or the people

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<v Speaker 12>at heart. And people are crying out for change. I

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<v Speaker 12>stopped in Laidley today for a couple of hours and

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<v Speaker 12>Toowoomba as well and I spoke to locals that actually

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<v Speaker 12>came up to me and they're really hurting, James, they

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<v Speaker 12>really are. They want change. They said, no more, we're

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<v Speaker 12>fed up with the major political parties. A lot of

0:12:24.179 --> 0:12:27.640
<v Speaker 12>people are also saying, we voted for Liberals no more.

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<v Speaker 12>They don't stand for anything. And they say, with you,

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<v Speaker 12>you're consistent. We know where we stand with you. And

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<v Speaker 12>they also say that we know you have the country

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<v Speaker 12>at heart and you really care about the country and

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<v Speaker 12>you care about us. And that's what they're learning from me,

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<v Speaker 12>is that I do care. It's going to be tough.

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<v Speaker 12>To turn it around is going to be very, very tough.

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<v Speaker 12>But you know what? The people have had to pull

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<v Speaker 12>in their belts. And what I'll say to people now,

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<v Speaker 12>If we actually have an opportunity to be government or

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<v Speaker 12>in a position to have balanced power in that parliament,

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<v Speaker 12>you know who's going to be pulling the belts in?

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<v Speaker 12>The government. We are going to ensure that happens. You

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<v Speaker 12>can't do it anymore, but the government will have to

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<v Speaker 12>start pulling their belts and you show by example.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's certainly going to be a lot of work to do.

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<v Speaker 2>The latest inflation figures released today don't make for happy reading.

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<v Speaker 2>Headline inflation has surged from 3.5% to 4% last month,

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<v Speaker 2>which is well and truly outside the Reserve Bank's target

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<v Speaker 2>of 2% to 3%, all of which means we're probably

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<v Speaker 2>looking at another rate rise in November. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Chalmers, and I mean this as a serious question,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think he knows what he's doing?

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<v Speaker 12>I don't believe he does. And I blame his colleagues

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<v Speaker 12>as well. And I blame Albanese as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 12>they are a team. They should be looking at this.

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<v Speaker 12>If they don't bring down the inflation rate, well, interest

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<v Speaker 12>rates have to go up. Or if they don't curtail

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<v Speaker 12>their spending, stop the spending, then you have to balance

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<v Speaker 12>it out and you have high unemployment in the country.

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<v Speaker 12>You've either got companies spending back or you have high

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<v Speaker 12>immigration to control the inflation that's happening in Australia. Productivity

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<v Speaker 12>is way down. compared to a lot of other countries.

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<v Speaker 12>So this is poor governance that's happened over the years,

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<v Speaker 12>over the period of time. So, like I said, if

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<v Speaker 12>you're actually going to spend the money, you don't spend

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<v Speaker 12>it in giving it to multicultural organisations of over $ 325 million.

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<v Speaker 12>You don't give $ 60 million to Ukraine. You don't give

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<v Speaker 12>$ 67 million to these media outlets. You stop wasting the money.

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<v Speaker 12>And you stop, you know, hiring all these bureaucrats and

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<v Speaker 12>paying them exorbitant wages. And I'll tell you another thing

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<v Speaker 12>that I'll be looking at. No bureaucrat will earn more

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<v Speaker 12>than what the Prime Minister does. That'll be reigned right

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<v Speaker 12>in under a one-nation government.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's not just a thought bubble. That will be

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<v Speaker 3>your policy.

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<v Speaker 2>No bureaucrat will earn more than the PM, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>what does the PM earn these days?

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<v Speaker 12>He's on about $ 650, 000. Some of these bureaucrats on head

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<v Speaker 12>of the ABC and some of these vice chancellors, they're

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<v Speaker 12>on a million dollars plus. So a lot of these

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<v Speaker 12>heads of these departments are on well over $ 700, 000, $ 800, 000.

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<v Speaker 13>It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 12>And they shouldn't be getting this sort of money. This

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<v Speaker 12>government has blown out the bureaucracy by about 40,000. 80%

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<v Speaker 12>of employment in this country has come through the bureaucracy,

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<v Speaker 12>government jobs. So I'm hearing people also, they're putting on

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<v Speaker 12>migrants into these positions, not Australians, they're putting on more

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<v Speaker 12>migrants into these positions so they don't end up on

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<v Speaker 12>the welfare system. So the whole system has rotten and

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<v Speaker 12>it's from the head down. So we need to get

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<v Speaker 12>rid of it. and we need to clean up this

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<v Speaker 12>country and get rid of the duplication that we're seeing

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<v Speaker 12>in these government departments. So it'll be a natural attrition.

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<v Speaker 12>These ones that leave the bureaucracy, public servants, they won't

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<v Speaker 12>be replaced. They will actually... And not this big payout

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<v Speaker 12>of redundancy. So you won't be getting that at taxpayers' expense.

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<v Speaker 12>So it'll be a natural attrition.

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<v Speaker 2>After the inflation figures were released yesterday, Jim Chalmers reasserted

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<v Speaker 2>that the war in the Middle East was the main

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<v Speaker 2>reason behind the spike.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's some of what he had to say.

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<v Speaker 7>The main reason why inflation in annual headline terms went

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<v Speaker 7>from the middle threes to four is because of the

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<v Speaker 7>extra pressure from the re-escalation of the war in the

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<v Speaker 7>Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>But, of course, that's very different to what the Reserve

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<v Speaker 2>Bank Governor told us yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Here was her comment.

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<v Speaker 14>Inflation is too high and has been driven by domestic

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<v Speaker 14>capacity pressures.

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<v Speaker 12>The inflation impulse from the Middle East conflict is in

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<v Speaker 12>addition to this.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Prime Minister was asked who was right,

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<v Speaker 2>his Treasurer or the Reserve Bank Governor, and Elbow said both.

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<v Speaker 3>Take a look.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you agree with?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with both of them because they are not

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<v Speaker 2>saying contradictory things at all. Pauline, is the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>right that everyone's right?

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<v Speaker 3>No, he's not.

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<v Speaker 13>You see.

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<v Speaker 12>The pair of them won't take responsibility for their poor

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<v Speaker 12>governance of this nation. We had high inflation rates even

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<v Speaker 12>last year before the war started. So it's not helping

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<v Speaker 12>by no means. But like the governor has said, Bullock said,

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<v Speaker 12>going back, you know, a year, a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 12>that the government needs to rein in their spending. So

0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.090
<v Speaker 12>we've had 16 interest rate hikes. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 12>another one, looks like, in November and possibly more next year.

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<v Speaker 12>So I feel for the people out there because a

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<v Speaker 12>lot of people are going to lose their homes. A

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<v Speaker 12>lot of people are going to lose the roof over

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<v Speaker 12>their heads. And that's due to this government. So if

0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.369
<v Speaker 12>you think about voting Labor again, you really want to

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<v Speaker 12>have a good look at it and understand the future

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<v Speaker 12>that you may be facing because you're going to be

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<v Speaker 12>living in poverty. And that's exactly where they want you.

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<v Speaker 12>This is a socialist government who wants to take the

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<v Speaker 12>wealth away from people in this nation. Business people are

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<v Speaker 12>screaming out. They've just about had a gutful. We're losing industries, manufacturing,

0:18:07.740 --> 0:18:11.310
<v Speaker 12>small businesses going under. This is because of this government.

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<v Speaker 12>We've never been in this mess as what we are today.

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<v Speaker 12>So people really need to start thinking about it. And

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<v Speaker 12>if you're on a welfare payment... Is that why you're

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<v Speaker 12>voting for Labor? Because you want your neighbour or your

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<v Speaker 12>family to pay for your welfare payment? That comes from

0:18:25.730 --> 0:18:29.390
<v Speaker 12>taxpayers working hard and going without so you can have

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<v Speaker 12>your lifestyle, sit around doing nothing. Too many people out

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<v Speaker 12>there are unemployed and collect happily, collect their unemployment benefits.

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<v Speaker 12>And I'll quickly say this. A tradie put in an

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<v Speaker 12>ad for someone who wants to put on an apprentice.

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<v Speaker 12>And guess what? 300 applications. He rang all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what?

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<v Speaker 12>Weren't interested in the job. It was a process they

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<v Speaker 12>have to go through that they've applied for.

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<v Speaker 15>That is not on.

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<v Speaker 12>So I say to the people out there, wake up yourselves,

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<v Speaker 12>take responsibility, put your own roof over your own head

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<v Speaker 12>and not leaving off possibly your family or your parents

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<v Speaker 12>or everyone else and feeding off your friends or your

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<v Speaker 12>neighbours or your family that are paying you away to

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<v Speaker 12>sit around and do nothing because you want your lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 12>It has to change, James.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, just before I let you go, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things I want to quickly get your thoughts on. First,

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<v Speaker 2>the Islamic preacher in Melbourne who posted a sermon on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram calling for Muslims to take up arms against Jews

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<v Speaker 2>and Christians.

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<v Speaker 3>As a reminder, here's what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, for the sake of Allah, it includes the

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<v Speaker 2>obligation to declare enmity for his sake, opposition for the

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<v Speaker 2>sake of Allah. It is to declare opposition indeed to

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<v Speaker 2>take up arms against his enemies, to shun them and

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<v Speaker 2>to stay far away from them, both in word and.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you surprised he seems to have essentially gotten away

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<v Speaker 2>spewing that kind of hate?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm disgusted that nothing has happened by the Premier of

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<v Speaker 12>the state of Victoria or the police themselves to actually

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<v Speaker 12>go and arrest this man. We just recently passed the

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<v Speaker 12>hate extremism legislation in Parliament. Under that legislation, even though

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<v Speaker 12>you say something that could be reckless and cause, create violence,

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<v Speaker 12>you can be charged on that. He hasn't been charged.

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<v Speaker 12>I want to know why. And also, although he was

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<v Speaker 12>reading from a Quran, the first passed about the Jews

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<v Speaker 12>and the Christians, but he was reading from a book,

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<v Speaker 12>that is still under the legislation reckless. Regardless of whether

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<v Speaker 12>it's in print or out of a scripture, if that

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<v Speaker 12>could cause hatred, which it's shown, he should be charged.

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<v Speaker 12>So the Premier of Victoria or the Police Commissioner of Victoria,

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<v Speaker 12>why hasn't this man been charged? I'm sick and tired

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<v Speaker 12>of one rule for some people in this country and

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<v Speaker 12>another rule for others.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of Australians would also say we would like

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<v Speaker 2>an explanation to what the heck is going on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Very quickly, I'm talking later to my panel about a

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<v Speaker 2>pro-Palestine rally planned for next Wednesday, which is October 7,

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<v Speaker 2>marking three years since the slaughter of Israelis. Should the

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales government allow pro-Palestine rallies on October 7?

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<v Speaker 10>No, no.

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<v Speaker 12>If I was in any form of control or charge,

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<v Speaker 12>it wouldn't happen. I would have the police out there

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<v Speaker 12>in force, and if you want to go out there

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<v Speaker 12>and try and protest, don't give them any licence to

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<v Speaker 12>actually protest on the streets. Do not allow it to happen.

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<v Speaker 12>If we want social cohesion in this country, then we've

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<v Speaker 12>got to take a stance on this. It's not wanted,

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<v Speaker 12>people don't want it, and I wouldn't allow it. That's

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<v Speaker 12>my stance, but I'm very strong on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Pauline Hanson, always great to catch up.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much for your time this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, after the break, which major council in this

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<v Speaker 2>country spent more than an hour and a half discussing

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not.

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<v Speaker 3>Australia Day was worth celebrating? I'll tell you after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>And colonialism is once again in the crosshairs as schools

0:21:58.510 --> 0:22:01.490
<v Speaker 2>increasingly decide to drop the names of European settlers from

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<v Speaker 2>their house names.

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<v Speaker 3>My panel will talk about that next.

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<v Speaker 2>The Melbourne City Council has voted in favour of a

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<v Speaker 2>motion recognising that January 26 is the official date of

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<v Speaker 2>Australia Day and that it's outside of the council's remit

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<v Speaker 2>to change it. It's ridiculous they had to vote on

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<v Speaker 2>that because, well, none of it's up for a vote.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be like me voting in favour of a motion

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<v Speaker 2>that the sky is blue. I could vote against the motion,

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<v Speaker 2>but to what end? The sky would still be blue

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<v Speaker 2>and Australia Day would still be January 26th. The Melbourne

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<v Speaker 2>Council also voted in favour of, and I quote, assessing

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<v Speaker 2>the potential of reviving the city's annual Australia Day parade,

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<v Speaker 2>which doesn't mean they will, it just means they'll assess

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not such an assessment should be assessed. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's the bit of news I want you to catch.

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<v Speaker 2>The Herald Sun reports that the meeting to vote on

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff went for 100 minutes. That's right, the people

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<v Speaker 2>charged with running Melbourne spent more than an hour and

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<v Speaker 2>a half voting... on whether or not January 26 is

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<v Speaker 2>January 26 and whether they could possibly potentially contemplate whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not it might be worth further investigating a parade.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank the good Lord there aren't any pressing concerns in

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<v Speaker 2>Melbourne that they should be worrying about. Joining me now

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<v Speaker 2>is GXO Strategies Director and former Chief of Staff to

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Shorten, Cameron Milner, and Shadow Assistant Agricultural Minister, Sam

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<v Speaker 2>Birrell of the Nationals.

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<v Speaker 3>Cameron, after 100 minutes of debate....

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<v Speaker 2>What did Melbourne taxpayers, or ratepayers rather, really get for

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<v Speaker 2>their money?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, they confirmed the bleeding obvious, didn't they, which is

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<v Speaker 14>Australia Day is on the 26th of January. So I'm

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<v Speaker 14>glad it took them 100 minutes. Most of it would

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<v Speaker 14>have taken you maybe less than a minute. But in

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<v Speaker 14>the end, I mean, look, Rashida Campbell, who's the Deputy

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<v Speaker 14>Mayor in Melbourne, is actually bringing some sensibility to this council.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, he's actually standing up to these woke lefties

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<v Speaker 14>who just want to get rid of things like Australia

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<v Speaker 14>Day from the agenda. So congratulations to the councillors who

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<v Speaker 14>did actually vote for that motion and confirm it and

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<v Speaker 14>put the lefties in the corner in the Melbourne City Council.

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<v Speaker 2>It just shows you how left that council is, that

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<v Speaker 2>the motion was, in my view, so lame, but it

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<v Speaker 2>still represents a win and represents progress, which is an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible thing. Sam, who actually benefits... from all of these

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<v Speaker 2>culture wars. And when I say culture wars, I should

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<v Speaker 2>add I don't believe standing up for January 26 is

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong side of the culture war. You're just responding

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<v Speaker 2>to those who started the war in the first place

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<v Speaker 2>by wanting to change the dates. But at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, who benefits from all of this stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, a pothole is not filled, a rubbish bin

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<v Speaker 2>is not emptied, a park is not mowed, and yet

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<v Speaker 2>councils busy themselves with stuff like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's right, James.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, it's often said that Australia is one of

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<v Speaker 9>the most over-governed countries in the world. It's probably too

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<v Speaker 9>much to hope that we could get rid of a

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<v Speaker 9>level of government, but at least we could ask that

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<v Speaker 9>the levels of government focus on what they're supposed to

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<v Speaker 9>be focusing on and certainly focusing on national issues like...

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<v Speaker 9>you know, or even international issues in some cases. Some

0:25:14.190 --> 0:25:17.340
<v Speaker 9>councils get very wound up about global issues, which they

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<v Speaker 9>have no ability to change or influence. But they should

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<v Speaker 9>really be focused on what the ratepayers pay them for

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<v Speaker 9>and what they put them there for, which is not

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<v Speaker 9>deciding what our national day should be and not getting

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<v Speaker 9>themselves involved or passing motions about who's right or wrong

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<v Speaker 9>in foreign conflicts.

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<v Speaker 2>This, of course, Cameron, is a gross generalisation on my part,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not talking about everybody by any means, but

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'll look at the stuff local councils go on with,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think these people, did they figure out they

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<v Speaker 2>weren't quite good enough to go into federal politics, so

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<v Speaker 2>they just went into local politics where they found a platform.

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<v Speaker 3>On which to grandstand? Because there's a lot of that

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<v Speaker 3>around the country.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I think there are when you've got Greens and lefties.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, I think there's some really good councillors out

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<v Speaker 14>there across Australia who do really good work, especially in

0:26:06.609 --> 0:26:09.290
<v Speaker 14>regional communities. They actually are community leaders who get elected

0:26:09.310 --> 0:26:13.030
<v Speaker 14>to these councils. But these inner-city enclaves that get Greenies

0:26:13.130 --> 0:26:15.290
<v Speaker 14>and woke lefties being elected who've got to move a

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<v Speaker 14>motion about Hamas, move a motion about Palestine, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>this is crazy use of local government time. But to

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<v Speaker 14>the councillors who do the job really well, it's a

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<v Speaker 14>smear on their good time that some of these people

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<v Speaker 14>do this with their local government time. and waste ratepayers'

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<v Speaker 14>money and ratepayers' time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good point.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, while we're talking about Australia Day and the

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<v Speaker 2>battle over what that means, schools right across the country

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<v Speaker 2>are increasingly ditching so-called colonial names that have been used

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<v Speaker 2>for their sporting houses. The latest one to do so

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<v Speaker 2>was Applecross Senior High School in Perth. last month replacing

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<v Speaker 2>its four existing school names, which were named after four

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 2>ships connected to the colonisation of WA, with new names

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<v Speaker 2>and symbols. And here's what they've said that reflect our community,

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<v Speaker 2>our place and our connection to Wadjuk.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is Noongar country.

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron, are these schools reflecting their communities, as they say,

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<v Speaker 2>or are they engaging in a bit of social engineering,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think?

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<v Speaker 14>Oh, isn't it the most appalling virtual signalling? You know,

0:27:19.910 --> 0:27:22.850
<v Speaker 14>virtual signalling from these people. I mean, these are educational

0:27:22.869 --> 0:27:25.850
<v Speaker 14>elitists who would rather not have their kid learn how

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<v Speaker 14>to speak English, not learn how to add up and subtract,

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<v Speaker 14>not do the basics, but, no, the house has been

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<v Speaker 14>renamed to a First Nations person. I mean, for goodness sake,

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<v Speaker 14>why don't teachers get back to the basics and actually teach?

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<v Speaker 2>Sam, my concern with this is the rush to cancel

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<v Speaker 2>names of Europeans who were key... to settlement in Australia

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<v Speaker 2>risks erasing students' knowledge of Australian history, does it not?

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<v Speaker 2>We talk a little bit, we'll talk quite a lot

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<v Speaker 2>actually about Indigenous history while erasing all remnants of European

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<v Speaker 2>history in this nation.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, James, and there's a place for it all. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, the river that I grew up on here

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<v Speaker 9>is the Goulburn River, named after Frederick Goulburn, who was

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<v Speaker 9>a colonial administrator in New South Wales. It's Yorta Yorta

0:28:13.340 --> 0:28:17.150
<v Speaker 9>name is the Kaila. And we often discuss this river

0:28:17.350 --> 0:28:20.030
<v Speaker 9>in terms of both names. But it does seem that

0:28:20.050 --> 0:28:23.410
<v Speaker 9>there is, as Cameron says, this virtue signalling about wanting

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<v Speaker 9>to change all of these things and somehow not acknowledge

0:28:26.980 --> 0:28:29.379
<v Speaker 9>that there is a colonial history. It's a part of

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.780
<v Speaker 9>Australia's rich fabric, along with Indigenous history, along with the

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 9>migrant culture of people who've arrived here. But to sort

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:40.070
<v Speaker 9>of want to get rid of one aspect of that,

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<v Speaker 9>it's not healthy for our social cohesion. It's not healthy

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<v Speaker 9>for our democracy.

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<v Speaker 10>And just.

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<v Speaker 9>In terms of what really is important, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 9>see people focus a little bit more when they're considering

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<v Speaker 9>Indigenous issues, not on some of the virtue signalling and

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<v Speaker 9>name changing, but on the plight of young Indigenous people

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<v Speaker 9>in the northern parts of Australia, which has been highlighted

0:29:03.980 --> 0:29:09.260
<v Speaker 9>by some terribly, some tragic news in recent times. Our

0:29:09.340 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 9>focus and our effort should be on those young Australians.

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<v Speaker 9>They are young Australians. They deserve the same chance as

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 9>all other young Australians. And we need to make sure

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<v Speaker 9>that we're not doing the look at me, I'm virtue signalling,

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<v Speaker 9>but let's go and help and make sure that all

0:29:22.750 --> 0:29:25.590
<v Speaker 9>young Australians get that opportunity for safety and education.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, amen to that. Couldn't agree more.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, before I let you both go, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get your reaction to the Greens choosing David Shoebridge

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<v Speaker 2>as their new leader.

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<v Speaker 3>Cameron, I'll let you tee off first. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. Another leader, another day.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, this is a Greens party that's gentrifying before

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<v Speaker 14>our eyes. I mean, they stalled on 10% of the

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.500
<v Speaker 14>primary vote and they're picking a bloke who was a

0:29:49.580 --> 0:29:50.260
<v Speaker 14>poll turtle.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, goodness me. I mean, they've got no hope. No hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam, do you think David Shoebridge can make life a

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<v Speaker 2>little uneasy for Albanese?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, well, whether he does that or not is irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 9>The point is that you've seen how bad Australia's gone

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<v Speaker 9>with four and a half, five years of a left-wing government.

0:30:10.420 --> 0:30:13.750
<v Speaker 9>David Shoebridge said today that he wants to replace Labor

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<v Speaker 9>as the left-wing option. Now, imagine... Look at how bad

0:30:17.630 --> 0:30:19.850
<v Speaker 9>we are now. Imagine if that wasn't just a left-wing

0:30:19.870 --> 0:30:23.810
<v Speaker 9>government but a far left-wing government. Australia as we know

0:30:23.830 --> 0:30:25.550
<v Speaker 9>it would cease to exist and that would be a

0:30:25.590 --> 0:30:28.980
<v Speaker 9>terrible thing. I think Australia has never needed a conservative

0:30:29.020 --> 0:30:32.060
<v Speaker 9>government more than it does now. The only option for

0:30:32.140 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 9>actual true conservatism fiscal management is the coalition.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a moment before we go to the break. So, Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>I did want to ask you quickly, Labor's been accused

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<v Speaker 2>of hurting regional agriculture and tourism with its working holiday

0:30:45.580 --> 0:30:49.719
<v Speaker 2>maker visa slowdown and its announcement of significant cuts to

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.100
<v Speaker 2>backpacker approvals over the next few years. How big a

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>hit for our rural communities is that?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, it's a disaster. It's an absolute schmuzzle. Because Tony

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 9>Burke couldn't get his act together and get Labor's migration

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:08.970
<v Speaker 9>policy announced... They paused the working holiday visas, and some

0:31:09.010 --> 0:31:14.830
<v Speaker 9>people who operate harvesting contracting businesses rely on those people

0:31:14.890 --> 0:31:18.580
<v Speaker 9>coming out. They're experienced people from Northern Europe and the

0:31:18.620 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 9>United States and Canada. They're sitting in airports waiting for

0:31:21.580 --> 0:31:24.420
<v Speaker 9>their visas to be approved, and the harvest starts in

0:31:24.460 --> 0:31:29.450
<v Speaker 9>two weeks. to Julie Collins, the agricultural minister, because she's

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<v Speaker 9>pushed for some of these visas to be approved in

0:31:32.380 --> 0:31:35.100
<v Speaker 9>the last few days after many phone calls from us

0:31:35.180 --> 0:31:39.060
<v Speaker 9>and the nationals, but really trying to clean up Tony

0:31:39.100 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 9>Burke's mess and just shows you how anti-business and what

0:31:42.980 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 9>a lack of understanding Labor has.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to talk to you both. Cameron Milner, Sam Birrell,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>After the break, the former head of the RBA has

0:31:53.140 --> 0:31:56.620
<v Speaker 2>slammed the Albanese government's reckless spending and a new report

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<v Speaker 2>has handed Victoria an unwanted record, worst managed state in

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<v Speaker 2>the Western world. Leith Van Onselen joins me after the break.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday, we addressed the blame game going on between the

0:32:13.610 --> 0:32:16.530
<v Speaker 2>Albanese government and the RBA over what, or more particularly,

0:32:16.650 --> 0:32:21.300
<v Speaker 2>who is responsible for high inflation. The RBA governor has

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 2>blamed domestic spending and, in addition, the.

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<v Speaker 3>War in Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Chalmers, he's blamed the war in Iran while conceding

0:32:28.860 --> 0:32:32.730
<v Speaker 2>that private domestic spending might be an issue, but insisting

0:32:32.750 --> 0:32:35.209
<v Speaker 2>he's made budget. Well, that's the best thing to have

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<v Speaker 2>happened to the Australian economy since he completed his PhD

0:32:37.990 --> 0:32:40.570
<v Speaker 2>thesis in on the life and times of Paul Keating.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was left to former governor of the RBA, Dr.

0:32:43.450 --> 0:32:46.330
<v Speaker 2>Philip Lowe, to point out a couple of home truths.

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<v Speaker 15>And now we find ourselves running sizable budget deficits at

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<v Speaker 15>a time where we're at full employment and commodity prices

0:32:54.690 --> 0:32:58.230
<v Speaker 15>are very high. We should be running sizable surpluses. So

0:32:59.330 --> 0:33:01.780
<v Speaker 15>we don't have a framework and we're not solving the

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 15>intertemporal problem. So what we're doing now is spending today

0:33:05.860 --> 0:33:07.980
<v Speaker 15>and leaving the debt for our kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining me now is macro business's chief economist, Leith Van Onselen. Leith,

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<v Speaker 2>always great to talk. Do you agree with Dr Lowe's comments?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely. Phil Lowe's just repeating what nearly every other

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.290
<v Speaker 1>economist is saying, that the federal government needs to reduce

0:33:23.330 --> 0:33:25.989
<v Speaker 1>spending and take pressure off inflation. Look, let's be honest,

0:33:26.010 --> 0:33:28.710
<v Speaker 1>the Reserve Bank's hiking race to lower demand in the economy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's doing so by whacking households, particularly those with mortgages.

0:33:33.290 --> 0:33:37.290
<v Speaker 1>And RBA Governor Michelle Bullock, she explicitly said on Tuesday...

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<v Speaker 1>that demand was too high and that interest rates have

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<v Speaker 1>to rise to lower demand back down. And a major

0:33:43.250 --> 0:33:46.630
<v Speaker 1>reason why demand is too high is because of excessive

0:33:46.670 --> 0:33:50.990
<v Speaker 1>government spending, both the federal and state levels. And here's

0:33:51.010 --> 0:33:54.209
<v Speaker 1>the ridiculous thing. We are five years past the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>yet government spending is still at those pandemic high levels,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes absolutely no sense. So what we need is

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<v Speaker 1>for the federal and state governments to basically help the

0:34:03.420 --> 0:34:06.490
<v Speaker 1>Reserve Bank out, reduce spending to help lower inflation, because

0:34:06.510 --> 0:34:09.070
<v Speaker 1>we have a burnout economy at the moment. The Reserve

0:34:09.110 --> 0:34:11.610
<v Speaker 1>Bank has the foot planted on the brake, trying to

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.620
<v Speaker 1>slow the economy down, while our governments have got the

0:34:14.660 --> 0:34:17.180
<v Speaker 1>foot planted on the accelerator, trying to speed the economy

0:34:17.219 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>up through reckless government spending. So we need to basically

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:20.900
<v Speaker 1>help the Reserve Bank out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you mentioned state governments.

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<v Speaker 2>The New South Wales Premier, Chris Minns, came out this

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<v Speaker 2>afternoon calling for state and federal governments to rein in

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<v Speaker 2>their spending.

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 3>Here he was.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, I'd just say that I think every government has

0:34:34.860 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 10>a responsibility to do what it can to take demand

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<v Speaker 10>out of the economy. South Wales Treasurer and myself have

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<v Speaker 10>said many times that we have heard the advice from

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:48.370
<v Speaker 10>the RBA over the last two years that we need

0:34:48.390 --> 0:34:49.930
<v Speaker 10>to be careful with public funds.

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<v Speaker 3>Why can't Jim Chalmers simply say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, you know, good on Chris Mintz, because

0:34:55.550 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>he's basically just speaking the truth. Absolutely. We have, as

0:34:58.020 --> 0:35:00.540
<v Speaker 1>I said, we've got you know, public spending still tracking

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.339
<v Speaker 1>at those pandemic peaks. Yet we're five years removed from

0:35:03.380 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic. It makes absolutely no sense. And plus, all

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:09.330
<v Speaker 1>our levels of government are basically drowning in debt as well. So,

0:35:09.770 --> 0:35:12.690
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're facing a massive increase in interest payments

0:35:12.830 --> 0:35:15.290
<v Speaker 1>as this cheap COVID debt rolls over to high interest

0:35:15.310 --> 0:35:17.689
<v Speaker 1>rates down the track. And so we need our governments

0:35:17.710 --> 0:35:20.590
<v Speaker 1>to basically tighten the belts. Australians have to prepare for austerity.

0:35:20.969 --> 0:35:23.490
<v Speaker 1>And we need a period whereby state and federal governments

0:35:23.630 --> 0:35:26.540
<v Speaker 1>have a prolonged period where they spend less than they

0:35:26.580 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>receive through taxes and they start basically paying down this debt.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we need.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, speaking of places in debt, should we talk about Victoria?

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria's been ranked the worst managed state, not just in Australia,

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 2>but in the Western world.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew it was bad. I didn't know it was

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<v Speaker 3>that bad, Leith.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, absolutely. Look, I mean, you know, most Australians

0:35:48.380 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>widely regard Victoria as Australia's most poorly managed state. We've

0:35:51.460 --> 0:35:55.580
<v Speaker 1>got massive debt, soaring crime, endemic corruption and wasting infrastructure projects,

0:35:55.920 --> 0:36:00.250
<v Speaker 1>potholed roads, and also Australia's highest unemployment rate. But a

0:36:00.290 --> 0:36:04.370
<v Speaker 1>new comparative study analysis done by economist and former fund manager,

0:36:04.989 --> 0:36:08.930
<v Speaker 1>Mariso Shennessy, has also ranked Victoria the most mismanaged state

0:36:09.170 --> 0:36:10.790
<v Speaker 1>in the Western world. So what he basically did was

0:36:10.830 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>he spent 10 days And he basically judged 366 state

0:36:16.660 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and regional governments worldwide, and he assessed them on the

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 1>same criteria. And he found that Victoria ranked the most

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:26.069
<v Speaker 1>poorly in the world due to infrastructure waste, due to

0:36:26.130 --> 0:36:30.250
<v Speaker 1>its soaring debt, due to cronyism, and also its poor accountability.

0:36:30.290 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>And look, I've got to say, James, I'm a Victorian,

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:34.380
<v Speaker 1>and I approve this message.

0:36:36.219 --> 0:36:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Is there a prize?

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:40.259
<v Speaker 2>Like, do you get some sort of trophy or a

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>symbol to signify you are the worst run state in

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:44.529
<v Speaker 2>the Western world?

0:36:45.090 --> 0:36:47.830
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, I mean, I think we should. And this

0:36:47.850 --> 0:36:51.310
<v Speaker 1>should be televised because obviously Victoria's got an election, you know,

0:36:51.430 --> 0:36:53.790
<v Speaker 1>in November. So it'd be great if everyone knew this.

0:36:53.969 --> 0:36:56.460
<v Speaker 1>And we got the Raspberry Award because Victoria deserves it.

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>This has been an absolute schmuzzle, this state. And I've

0:37:00.300 --> 0:37:02.219
<v Speaker 1>lived here my whole life. I'm 48 years old. And

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I've just witnessed the degradation this century, particularly of Victoria.

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 1>It used to be very proud. It used to be

0:37:09.100 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>an excellent place to live in Melbourne. And now it's

0:37:11.620 --> 0:37:13.760
<v Speaker 1>just become a bit of a cesspit, to be quite frank.

0:37:14.570 --> 0:37:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Hey, we've only got about a minute and a half left,

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.859
<v Speaker 2>but I wanted to ask you quickly on macrobusiness.com.au, you've

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:24.740
<v Speaker 2>written an excellent article telling Australians brace for a $ 1

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 2>trillion hit to household wealth. We've only got about a minute,

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>so it's a bit of a mission, but can you

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.339
<v Speaker 2>explain to me what that means, a $ 1 trillion hit

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:35.819
<v Speaker 2>on household wealth coming our way?

0:37:36.460 --> 0:37:36.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah.

0:37:36.940 --> 0:37:39.140
<v Speaker 1>So it's all very simple. So the housing stock, the

0:37:39.219 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>total value of homes in Australia was valued at $ 12. 2

0:37:40.820 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 1>trillion in the March quarter. And home values have already

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>fallen by more than 5% nationally, and they're expected to

0:37:48.900 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>record record declines. I'm expecting a peak to trough decline

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:55.540
<v Speaker 1>in excess of 10%. And what that'll mean is that

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>dwelling values or the value of homes across Australia will

0:37:59.020 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>fall by more than $ 1 trillion in aggregate, which means

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:04.330
<v Speaker 1>that's a $ 1 trillion hit to household wealth. And what

0:38:04.370 --> 0:38:08.090
<v Speaker 1>this basically means for the economy is that HSBC, they've

0:38:08.110 --> 0:38:10.089
<v Speaker 1>tipped a 13% peak to trough decline, and they think

0:38:10.110 --> 0:38:12.589
<v Speaker 1>it's going to wipe about 1% off Australia's GDP growth

0:38:13.219 --> 0:38:16.660
<v Speaker 1>through lower consumer spending, but also through lower turnover in

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:17.989
<v Speaker 1>housing-related sectors.

0:38:18.780 --> 0:38:23.230
<v Speaker 2>The hits just keep on coming, don't they, Leith? I

0:38:23.250 --> 0:38:24.890
<v Speaker 2>was going to say thank you, but I'm not sure

0:38:24.910 --> 0:38:26.549
<v Speaker 2>I should say thank you after that news.

0:38:26.670 --> 0:38:28.489
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you coming on the show to talk, though.

0:38:29.070 --> 0:38:29.410
<v Speaker 1>Always.

0:38:29.530 --> 0:38:30.009
<v Speaker 4>Thanks, Leith.

0:38:30.530 --> 0:38:31.830
<v Speaker 3>All right, coming up after the.

0:38:31.739 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Break, the pro-Palestine movement wants to hold a vigil for

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:39.620
<v Speaker 2>Gaza on the anniversary of October 7. There are no words,

0:38:39.780 --> 0:38:42.989
<v Speaker 2>but there will be words... with Caroline DiRusso and Gemma

0:38:43.030 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Tonnini after the break. Next Wednesday will mark the three-year

0:38:51.500 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 2>anniversary of the October 7 attacks. And who do you

0:38:54.219 --> 0:38:58.070
<v Speaker 2>think is preparing to mark the occasion? The pro-Palestinian movement,

0:38:58.170 --> 0:39:01.910
<v Speaker 2>of course, because nothing says moral high ground like dancing

0:39:01.950 --> 0:39:04.940
<v Speaker 2>on the graves of your neighbour while complaining about your neighbour.

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 2>It was the Jews who were victims on October 7.

0:39:08.620 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 2>More than 1,000 Israelis raped, beaten, murdered, hundreds taken hostage.

0:39:13.030 --> 0:39:17.350
<v Speaker 2>The pro-Palestinian movement say they're protesting Israel's response, which might

0:39:17.370 --> 0:39:19.770
<v Speaker 2>have been more convincing if they had not celebrated the

0:39:19.810 --> 0:39:24.130
<v Speaker 2>attacks on Israel and started protesting Israel's response before Israel's

0:39:24.170 --> 0:39:27.989
<v Speaker 2>response had even begun. Israel's response, by the way, the

0:39:28.010 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 2>ground invasion three weeks after the massacre of its civilians,

0:39:31.300 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 2>was first and foremost to get back their women and

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:37.760
<v Speaker 2>children who'd been taken hostage, something the Gazans did everything

0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:41.840
<v Speaker 2>to prevent and something even the pro-Palestinians in this country protested.

0:39:42.450 --> 0:39:45.589
<v Speaker 2>Remember how they tore down posters calling for the Jewish

0:39:45.630 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 2>hostages to be released? Anyway, there's a vigil being advertised

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:54.190
<v Speaker 2>to be held outside Sydney's town hall on October 7,

0:39:54.190 --> 0:39:57.890
<v Speaker 2>but not to mourn the 1,200 Israelis killed that day.

0:39:57.969 --> 0:39:59.650
<v Speaker 3>Far from it. Have a look at this.

0:40:00.700 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 2>It's a poster advertising on October 7, a vigil not

0:40:03.860 --> 0:40:06.800
<v Speaker 2>for Jews who that day experienced the biggest mass slaughter

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 2>since the Holocaust. It's a vigil for Gaza. And have

0:40:10.940 --> 0:40:13.140
<v Speaker 2>a look at what's written on the top of the poster.

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:18.950
<v Speaker 2>It says, don't let Israel steal the date. Its genocidal

0:40:19.050 --> 0:40:24.900
<v Speaker 2>airstrikes began on October 7th, 2023. The Australian Jewish Association

0:40:24.940 --> 0:40:29.100
<v Speaker 2>responded online to the poster by saying the following. Don't worry,

0:40:29.739 --> 0:40:33.310
<v Speaker 2>Israel can't steal October 7 from you. Just as the

0:40:33.350 --> 0:40:36.750
<v Speaker 2>Holocaust will forever be associated with Germany, the rape, murder

0:40:36.810 --> 0:40:39.930
<v Speaker 2>and kidnapping of Jews on October 7 will forever be

0:40:39.969 --> 0:40:42.589
<v Speaker 2>associated with the Palestinian Arabs who carried it out.

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:44.860
<v Speaker 3>That date is all yours.

0:40:45.540 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Joining me now is the panel, Gemma Tognini of GT

0:40:47.900 --> 0:40:53.380
<v Speaker 2>Communications and News24 contributor Caroline DeRusso. Gemma, how did you

0:40:53.420 --> 0:40:56.270
<v Speaker 2>respond when you saw this poster? I could not believe it.

0:40:56.660 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 16>I'm completely unsurprised. These are the gutter of our society,

0:41:02.380 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 16>these people. They are, you know what, at a very

0:41:05.420 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 16>low level. They're kind of like Jan Brady, you know.

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:13.760
<v Speaker 13>They can't let anyone else have anything. They're just whinge, whinge, whinge. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha.

0:41:14.590 --> 0:41:17.870
<v Speaker 16>I mean, that's the trite way to treat these mental

0:41:18.170 --> 0:41:21.910
<v Speaker 16>and moral pygmies. But the reality of it is they're

0:41:21.930 --> 0:41:25.330
<v Speaker 16>celebrating what they call our martyrs. And I just want

0:41:25.350 --> 0:41:28.250
<v Speaker 16>to remind our viewers and remind any of those people

0:41:28.290 --> 0:41:30.180
<v Speaker 16>who might still be on the fence on this issue,

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.219
<v Speaker 16>if that's possible, but what they're celebrating are people who

0:41:33.420 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 16>broke into kibbutzim, who raped, slaughtered children, women, who tied women,

0:41:40.140 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 16>young girls like my niece's age, 22 years old, to

0:41:42.900 --> 0:41:46.310
<v Speaker 16>trees at... the site of the Nova Festival, raped them.

0:41:46.469 --> 0:41:50.590
<v Speaker 16>They used implements. They used rods of wood and metal pikes.

0:41:50.670 --> 0:41:53.989
<v Speaker 16>And many women were found having been shot in their genitalia.

0:41:54.410 --> 0:41:56.330
<v Speaker 16>So I just want to remind my fellow Australians that

0:41:56.370 --> 0:42:00.529
<v Speaker 16>the people who are advocating for this protest, what the

0:42:00.550 --> 0:42:03.569
<v Speaker 16>hell they're protesting, who knows, they're the people who are

0:42:04.510 --> 0:42:05.270
<v Speaker 16>quite happy with this.

0:42:05.310 --> 0:42:08.330
<v Speaker 13>They think it's resistance. They think it's martyrdom. I think

0:42:08.350 --> 0:42:11.350
<v Speaker 13>they're sick. And I think the government needs to finally

0:42:11.390 --> 0:42:12.090
<v Speaker 13>just draw a.

0:42:12.070 --> 0:42:14.219
<v Speaker 16>Line in the sand and there has to be a

0:42:14.260 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 16>line in the sand about this sort of thing.

0:42:15.700 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 13>And I'll just share this one story, if I could, James.

0:42:17.940 --> 0:42:21.590
<v Speaker 16>The first hostage that I met on a mission to

0:42:21.630 --> 0:42:25.069
<v Speaker 16>Israel in the middle of the war, December 2024, she

0:42:25.110 --> 0:42:28.129
<v Speaker 16>was back at her kibbutzim, which was still, the only thing.

0:42:28.050 --> 0:42:31.110
<v Speaker 13>That had been cleaned up was the blood, to be frank.

0:42:31.290 --> 0:42:33.310
<v Speaker 16>And I asked her what her captors, she was held

0:42:33.350 --> 0:42:36.150
<v Speaker 16>by a civilian family in Gaza. And I asked her,

0:42:37.260 --> 0:42:39.069
<v Speaker 16>what they talked about, and she said various things. She

0:42:39.110 --> 0:42:41.150
<v Speaker 16>tried to humanise herself. But she said to me the

0:42:41.170 --> 0:42:43.730
<v Speaker 16>most shocking thing she had said to her was that

0:42:43.810 --> 0:42:46.250
<v Speaker 16>she didn't know. She was told, I don't know why

0:42:46.330 --> 0:42:47.930
<v Speaker 16>you Jews think you have the right to be here.

0:42:49.090 --> 0:42:51.320
<v Speaker 16>So I just want to remind people what we're talking

0:42:51.380 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 16>about here. This isn't some cosplay bullshit nonsense that belongs

0:42:56.140 --> 0:43:00.040
<v Speaker 16>in a bad university class, probably the University of Sydney,

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 16>let's be honest.

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.529
<v Speaker 13>This is fellow Australians.

0:43:04.219 --> 0:43:09.530
<v Speaker 16>not my fellow Australians, trying to rewrite history, rewrite recent history,

0:43:09.989 --> 0:43:12.430
<v Speaker 16>and it is absolutely abhorrent.

0:43:13.010 --> 0:43:17.750
<v Speaker 2>Caroline, the Chris Minns government should not allow this to

0:43:17.790 --> 0:43:19.730
<v Speaker 2>go ahead on October 7, should they?

0:43:21.900 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 8>I think this is pretty revolting. Look, and there's one

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 8>of these things, from a freedom of speech point of view,

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:32.140
<v Speaker 8>like I'm glad that this poster has come out so

0:43:32.219 --> 0:43:35.410
<v Speaker 8>people can see the absolute stupidity, but that there is

0:43:35.469 --> 0:43:38.589
<v Speaker 8>different to holding a vigil and protesting and I think

0:43:38.630 --> 0:43:42.529
<v Speaker 8>that that there is just gauche beyond imagination. As Gemma said,

0:43:42.570 --> 0:43:43.870
<v Speaker 8>it's absolutely abhorrent and.

0:43:43.870 --> 0:43:44.890
<v Speaker 3>I really struggle.

0:43:45.489 --> 0:43:49.860
<v Speaker 8>Even as, you know, my deepest libertarian senses and freedom

0:43:49.890 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 8>of speech and associate just cannot abide this.

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 13>It is absolutely revolting.

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 8>But the bit that I was slightly amused by and

0:43:59.780 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 8>what Gemma said was absolutely 100%. It won't come as

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:05.450
<v Speaker 8>any great surprise to you, James, that I agree with

0:44:05.489 --> 0:44:08.350
<v Speaker 8>her and we're on a unity ticket here. But one

0:44:08.390 --> 0:44:11.950
<v Speaker 8>of the groups that is sponsoring this event is is

0:44:12.030 --> 0:44:14.879
<v Speaker 8>the eastern suburbs for Palestine.

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 13>Like, tell me your head's up.

0:44:17.060 --> 0:44:21.020
<v Speaker 8>Your backside without telling me your head's up your backside. Like,

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:26.219
<v Speaker 8>tell the entire country that you have absolutely no credibility.

0:44:26.540 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 8>That was the first thing I noticed on that poster

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.220
<v Speaker 8>and I rolled my eyes and I thought, these people

0:44:32.620 --> 0:44:34.050
<v Speaker 8>don't have enough problems.

0:44:34.350 --> 0:44:34.650
<v Speaker 3>They don't.

0:44:34.670 --> 0:44:38.270
<v Speaker 8>Because if they had proper problems, they would be being

0:44:38.310 --> 0:44:42.730
<v Speaker 8>more productive workers with their time elsewhere in society than

0:44:42.810 --> 0:44:46.050
<v Speaker 8>carrying on this absolute load of manure.

0:44:46.710 --> 0:44:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely. Couldn't agree more. I just cannot imagine how.

0:44:52.940 --> 0:44:55.299
<v Speaker 2>After what we saw back in the day, you know,

0:44:55.340 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the Opera House protests, et cetera, I just cannot believe

0:44:58.860 --> 0:45:01.180
<v Speaker 2>the government will not find a way to stop this.

0:45:01.219 --> 0:45:01.820
<v Speaker 3>It's obscene.

0:45:01.980 --> 0:45:04.219
<v Speaker 16>James, Chris Minns was on the record a couple of

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:08.250
<v Speaker 16>weeks ago when our colleague Sherry Markson launched her book.

0:45:08.830 --> 0:45:10.070
<v Speaker 13>along with Alex Rivkin.

0:45:10.110 --> 0:45:12.430
<v Speaker 16>And he said something to the effect of, you know,

0:45:12.489 --> 0:45:14.610
<v Speaker 16>that was a, I think it was a bullshit response.

0:45:14.650 --> 0:45:15.730
<v Speaker 13>I was a baby Premier.

0:45:15.750 --> 0:45:16.169
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:45:16.190 --> 0:45:18.090
<v Speaker 13>You know, here's your chance, Premier.

0:45:18.290 --> 0:45:18.450
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:45:18.710 --> 0:45:22.070
<v Speaker 16>Here's your chance to make it about more than just rhetoric,

0:45:22.489 --> 0:45:24.950
<v Speaker 16>more than just, oh, mere culprit in hindsight, don't blame me,

0:45:24.969 --> 0:45:26.740
<v Speaker 16>I didn't know what I was doing. Here is your

0:45:26.820 --> 0:45:29.089
<v Speaker 16>chance to put your goddamn money where your mouth is.

0:45:29.570 --> 0:45:31.580
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, Caroline, and I want to move on

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 2>in a second, but to my mind, if on October 7th,

0:45:35.989 --> 0:45:40.370
<v Speaker 2>You have a pro-Palestinian rally in favour of Palestine and Gazans.

0:45:40.930 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 2>That comes to me so close to incitement, it's not

0:45:44.980 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 2>funny because you're effectively justifying what was mass slaughter. I

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.940
<v Speaker 2>just cannot imagine how that could possibly go ahead. And

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:55.620
<v Speaker 2>if Chris Min says, well, we don't have the laws

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 2>to be able to stop it, well, you've been Premier

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 2>for the last number of years since October 7, 2023.

0:46:00.620 --> 0:46:03.020
<v Speaker 2>Three years. You've had the chance to make the laws.

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about Sydney University. I forget which

0:46:06.340 --> 0:46:08.140
<v Speaker 2>of you mentioned it earlier, but it was going to

0:46:08.180 --> 0:46:13.610
<v Speaker 2>come up. They announced three independent reviews into campus security,

0:46:14.130 --> 0:46:18.549
<v Speaker 2>student representative group funding and into student conduct rules. These

0:46:18.710 --> 0:46:21.470
<v Speaker 2>three reviews come after a group ran in the student

0:46:21.530 --> 0:46:25.810
<v Speaker 2>council election under the slogan, globalise the intifada.

0:46:25.890 --> 0:46:29.009
<v Speaker 3>Gemma, we're going to have some reviews, three reviews. Is

0:46:29.050 --> 0:46:29.690
<v Speaker 3>this action?

0:46:30.450 --> 0:46:33.350
<v Speaker 16>Well, nothing says a line in the sand like three reviews.

0:46:33.450 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 16>My goodness, they must be quaking in their boots. I mean, again, James,

0:46:36.380 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 16>we had Mark Scott giving evidence at the Royal Commission

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.219
<v Speaker 16>recently or in the last couple of months, whenever it was, saying,

0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:43.399
<v Speaker 16>you know, we were blindsided.

0:46:43.700 --> 0:46:46.069
<v Speaker 13>Great, you were blindsided. You've had time. What have you done?

0:46:46.850 --> 0:46:47.370
<v Speaker 13>What have you done?

0:46:47.390 --> 0:46:51.210
<v Speaker 16>The Archbishop of Sydney, the Catholic Archbishop, I believe others

0:46:51.550 --> 0:46:55.940
<v Speaker 16>also last week when this story broke, slammed the University

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.620
<v Speaker 16>of Sydney for its repeated inaction.

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.390
<v Speaker 13>I mean, imagine, imagine quaking in your boots. We're going

0:47:01.410 --> 0:47:05.270
<v Speaker 13>to have a review. Oh, my giddy aunt. What a

0:47:05.330 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 13>lack of leadership this country has.

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:12.090
<v Speaker 2>Caroline, the Australian newspaper reported that these reviews were ordered

0:47:12.430 --> 0:47:15.529
<v Speaker 2>after the Prime Minister, the New South Wales Premier and

0:47:15.550 --> 0:47:20.190
<v Speaker 2>the Education Minister all petitioned University Vice-Chancellor Mark Scott to

0:47:20.330 --> 0:47:22.790
<v Speaker 2>do something. I mean, what does it say that you

0:47:22.830 --> 0:47:25.100
<v Speaker 2>had to have everyone from the PM to the Education

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Minister knocking on your door saying, hey, are you going

0:47:27.980 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 2>to do something?

0:47:28.660 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 3>And then he responds with three reviews.

0:47:32.219 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 8>Well, he's evidently an insipid human being, right? I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>the three reviews... shouldn't even be necessary. You should have

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<v Speaker 8>just done your job in.

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<v Speaker 13>The first place.

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<v Speaker 8>Now, if this rabble appears to run the university, well,

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<v Speaker 8>then the Vice-Chancellor should just be sending his paycheck to them,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, on the 15th of every month when it

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<v Speaker 8>lands in his bank account or whatever.

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<v Speaker 13>Who runs this show?

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<v Speaker 8>Either you're in charge and you do your job properly

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<v Speaker 8>or trot off Go and be a medical receptionist or something.

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<v Speaker 8>Go and do something else. If you are not capable

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<v Speaker 8>of doing the job, vacate the space. The idea that

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<v Speaker 8>three senior people in government had to call you and

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<v Speaker 8>tell you to do something and then what you do

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<v Speaker 8>is have a review just tells us all that you

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<v Speaker 8>are so far out of your depth and enough of this, like,

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<v Speaker 8>bouncing from one cushy public job to another, mate.

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<v Speaker 3>You're useless. Just go.

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<v Speaker 2>You're absolutely right. I've got to finish it there, ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for taking the time. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it from me.

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<v Speaker 3>Stick around. Up right now is Shari Markson. Good night.