WEBVTT - The 5 things you need to do for ultimate wellness 

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<v Speaker 1>Apoche Production.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Behind the Drapes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Brent Draper aka Drakes, and I'm Shanlee

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<v Speaker 1>Draper and we're here to talk about stuff according to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, it's Draper here and I was naked on

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<v Speaker 1>the Golkos Highway.

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<v Speaker 3>Yoah, buddy, She's made to give her You are a

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<v Speaker 3>strong woman.

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<v Speaker 1>So today we've got an incredible wound by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Angela Davies here with us in the studio. And

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, Ange is a really good friend of

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<v Speaker 1>ours who we adore and we feel so grateful to

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<v Speaker 1>have in our lives. And second to that, she's got

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing story. So she climbed the corporate ladder for

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<v Speaker 1>over fifteen years, only to unfortunately crash and burn kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hard after her mental health and well being started

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<v Speaker 1>to deteriorate. Ange's story is super powerful because it's so relatable. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that what's really special and unique about her

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<v Speaker 1>is that she was actually able to get herself out

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<v Speaker 1>of that world he'll herself and then go on to

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<v Speaker 1>study her master's in psychology, opening up her own business,

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<v Speaker 1>Mind Your Grit, where she now helps people foster success

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<v Speaker 1>through well being, and she has so much to share

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<v Speaker 1>and offer. So let's cutch to the chase and bring

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<v Speaker 1>her in.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So good to have you here. So Ange, let's dive

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<v Speaker 1>straight in. You had a really extensive corporate career. You

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<v Speaker 1>worked in the banking sector. There something happened, right so,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was twenty twenty two. You're driving in

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<v Speaker 1>your car and something happened and that really shifted everything

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<v Speaker 1>for you when it came to your career and your health.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you tell us about that time please?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess long story short, I had a really tough

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<v Speaker 2>year that year. Personally, I had a miscarriage three days

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<v Speaker 2>after my birthday, after I'd on my way home from

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<v Speaker 2>Eden Health Retreat. Ironically, I was quite traumatic. My neighbor

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<v Speaker 2>had to drive me to the hospital. Lamb was away.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a bit of an ordeal. And then

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks later, the floods hit in the Northern Rivers

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<v Speaker 2>and I reckon about seventy percent of our customers on our.

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<v Speaker 3>Book or impacted by those floods.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge, so very quick I had to forget about what

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<v Speaker 2>happened two weeks ago and turned to just help our customers.

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<v Speaker 2>Somehow and advocate for them, help our teams. Our Lizma

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<v Speaker 2>office was entirely underwater, and so very quickly focused on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Liam got diagnosed with a chronic health condition

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<v Speaker 2>two months after that, and so there were just multiple

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<v Speaker 2>things that had happened that alive, right, this stuff happens

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<v Speaker 2>in life.

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<v Speaker 3>But instead of stopping and.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking after myself, I just kept pushing and pushing and

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<v Speaker 2>pushing and pushing. And I was in a client meeting

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<v Speaker 2>in a really hot shed and I just felt myself

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<v Speaker 2>feeling dizzy, the walls closing in, and I just excused myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god one of my bankers was there and could

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<v Speaker 2>continue with the meeting. And I left and I jumped

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<v Speaker 2>in you know the bank fullell drive and got on

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<v Speaker 2>the freeway, and I honestly thought I was having a

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<v Speaker 2>heart attack, Like my heart was pounding.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of my chest. I could not see, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like so scary driving like.

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<v Speaker 2>Drop one hundred and ten kilometer an hour road, so

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<v Speaker 2>not even just in the backstreets.

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<v Speaker 3>And I pulled over because.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like I can't breathe, Like I was like

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<v Speaker 2>something's happened, going to die, a full body shut down

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<v Speaker 2>what it felt like, and so I pulled over on

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<v Speaker 2>the side of the road. I called Liam, my husband,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, something's wrong, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>about having a heart attack. And he's like the calmest

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<v Speaker 2>man you've ever met, and he was just like just breathing.

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<v Speaker 2>He talked to me through my breathing, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>pulled like I'd pulled over on this like tiny shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>on the m one trucks were like brushing past and

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<v Speaker 2>I could feel it because the car would shake every

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<v Speaker 2>time it would go past. And he just talked me

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<v Speaker 2>out of it, and I was like, what the bloody.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell just happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, and so, being the maniac and atype personality that

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<v Speaker 2>I am, immediately I was like, what happened? So I

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<v Speaker 2>think I need to study psychology. I don't understand what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably about two weeks after that, I found a way

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<v Speaker 2>to apply for my master's in psychology because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to figure out what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened after that when she realized you weren't having

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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack, which is like so common, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>so many people that don't understand what you know anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>is or panic attacks that's the sort of common theme

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<v Speaker 1>that you hear is that they think they're having a

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<v Speaker 1>heart attack, which is so scary. And you were so young.

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<v Speaker 1>How old are you now, thirty eight? So you were yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thirty six six, Yeah, so so young.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I thought I was like, was that a

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<v Speaker 2>panic attack? Like I thought that, But then at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, I was teaching twenty pilartates classes a week,

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time as working sixty hours in banking

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<v Speaker 2>a week.

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<v Speaker 1>And so and dealing with a flood crisis by the way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so like not just working normal hours, like people were

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<v Speaker 1>really heavily relying on you and in bad situations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, And that continued for months and months, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I was like, oh, I've got to get ready

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<v Speaker 2>to teach my polarates class. So I just went back

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<v Speaker 2>to it, back to it. Yeah, same as when I

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<v Speaker 2>had the miscarriage. I was like, oh, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>could need to go teach polarates, and my doctor's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to go to the hospital immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is why I had.

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<v Speaker 2>The panic attack, because I was not listening to what

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<v Speaker 2>my body needed and it screamed at me until I listened.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it did. Yeah, well that's what they say, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not listening to it, or you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you're not listen to your brain, your body will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it will stop yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, So this happens, and then you start thinking, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to figure out what happened to me mentally

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<v Speaker 1>or psychologically. There there's something not right. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>decide I'm gonna gree study, which is funny because like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just add one more thing to the plate, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm very busy, ye, so let's add Masters of Psychology.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened from there?

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<v Speaker 2>So I got accepted, and I was like, how am

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<v Speaker 2>I going to do twenty hours of pilates, fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>sixty hours of work, and then twenty to thirty hours

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<v Speaker 2>a week of Masters.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm a banker, you do the maths. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>space for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so very quickly I realized I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to quit my full time job. Yeah, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and it was really important for me to study,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I didn't quit immediately. I guess working in finance,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very conscious of making sure that I had enough

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<v Speaker 2>when I did quit, and so I saved six months

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<v Speaker 2>worth of my salary before I felt comfortable to leath.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah big call. Yeah, like that's a huge poor to

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<v Speaker 1>quit your job. Yeah, just a job. You had a

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<v Speaker 1>very big career with a lot of people that were

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<v Speaker 1>relying on you. You were like, no, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>go first.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never done that in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was always my team before me, anyone else

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<v Speaker 2>before me. And also so much of my identity was

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<v Speaker 2>tied to what I did. You know, I wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>a I was ange and this is what I do,

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<v Speaker 2>and so there was a lot to unpack. But I

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<v Speaker 2>just knew I'm very much a person who goes with

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<v Speaker 2>my gut with a lot of things, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>knew that was what.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing, So let's talk practical steps. So what did you

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<v Speaker 1>actually do because we can talk about like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>then I went and studied, and then I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>quit my job. But like that stuff didn't happen straight away. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't just like magically overnight and start feeling better.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't imagine. I know, you know the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>stress that you carried, you know, trauma and those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of things and stuff takes a while to sort of dissipate,

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<v Speaker 1>So practical steps. How do you get from me super crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>burnt out after nearly two decades in this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>career yeap, just slowing down to relaxing your nervous system

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<v Speaker 1>and getting your mental health right. And also how did

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<v Speaker 1>you afford to take the time out? Because people that

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<v Speaker 1>are listening are probably like, cool, I've also felt the

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<v Speaker 1>same way, or I'm going through this right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can't just like quit my job, you know, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they have children, maybe they don't have children. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you just quit your job and start studying when

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<v Speaker 1>you're thirty six years old? That seems like a really

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<v Speaker 1>big ask for people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and a big risk, right, you know, you're giving

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<v Speaker 2>up a really good job. I guess I had dropped

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<v Speaker 2>the ego and I was like, if we really need

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<v Speaker 2>money on stack shelves at Coles.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, you know, for me, I'm like, I knew that

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<v Speaker 3>we would be okay. And I knew once.

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<v Speaker 2>I got accepted that I needed to save, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I was a maniac, like I scrutinized every bit of

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<v Speaker 2>my budget. I knew what I had to save and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that if I had six months up my

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<v Speaker 2>sleeve of my salary, that I'd be able to last

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<v Speaker 2>probably about a year.

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<v Speaker 1>A yeah, yeah, yeah, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, if I just say that, that

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<v Speaker 2>just gives me the buffer to just go and study

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<v Speaker 2>and feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you have to pay for your study upfront?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you can put it on hex what's it called?

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<v Speaker 1>If you?

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<v Speaker 3>But then I did that, then I paid it.

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<v Speaker 2>This was really hard for me, and as someone who

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<v Speaker 2>does not like to relax and does not like quiet time,

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<v Speaker 2>because I felt like I had to hustle from such

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<v Speaker 2>a young age. I felt like, what am I missing

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<v Speaker 2>out on? If I'm not hustling? Am I being lazy?

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<v Speaker 2>You get ahead by hustling and working. And all of

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<v Speaker 2>this taught me in twenty twenty two that you have

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<v Speaker 2>nothing if you don't have your health. And it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like a cliche to say, but that was right there

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me. I couldn't keep doing my job,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't be there for my friends, my family because

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<v Speaker 2>my health wasn't good. And so that year I retreated,

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<v Speaker 2>like I pulled away from friends and so it took

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, and it actually took for me to

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<v Speaker 2>study psychology to learn some more tools to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to heal this burnout.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would say it took me a full year

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<v Speaker 3>to really heal the burnout while I was studying.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, your nervous system would have just been absolutely firing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you would have just been a bit of a result. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a bit of a hot message in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of like your brain probably couldn't even compute certain things

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<v Speaker 1>because you were that burnt out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I couldn't remember anything. I'd say things to people

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'd repeat it, and I was like, am

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<v Speaker 2>I getting Alzheimer's? Like quite seriously, I was like, am

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<v Speaker 2>I developing dementia?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Why can't I remember this stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>But it was just because when you're in a stressed

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<v Speaker 2>state or a traumatic state, your brain doesn't lay down memories.

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<v Speaker 2>Your body starts letting go of functions that it doesn't need,

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<v Speaker 2>and your brain in particular when you're stressed, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I've got to send everything.

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<v Speaker 3>To deal with the stress. So it took a whole year.

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<v Speaker 1>And is that why they say that people who have

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<v Speaker 1>trauma in their childhood don't remember? Like can have people

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<v Speaker 1>say that don't remember the childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you're in a traumatic state, your brain doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>lay down memories and so it takes for you to

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<v Speaker 2>feel safe typically for those to come back. So I

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<v Speaker 2>learn a lot in psychology. I was really able to

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<v Speaker 2>apply that to myself and use myself as a little

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<v Speaker 2>They call it like an N of one experiment, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was the one that I was experimenting on and

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<v Speaker 2>trying all these different things, And that's sort of how

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<v Speaker 2>I developed my framework that I now do my speeches

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<v Speaker 2>around the five things that create a wellbeing buffer around

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<v Speaker 2>you to help you manage and deal with burnout.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think more.

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<v Speaker 2>Important than that is being able to just take time

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<v Speaker 2>to pause and check in with how you're really feeling,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's very easy to keep going, going, going, going,

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<v Speaker 2>going and not know how you're feeling. Changing your environment

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<v Speaker 2>is really important as well, because everything is the same

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<v Speaker 2>in your environment. So I say a lot, you've got kids,

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<v Speaker 2>when do you get a moment? I say to take

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<v Speaker 2>the micro moments because if you look at your screen

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<v Speaker 2>time on your phone right now, how many hours is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Saying that we're on there right And I think this

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<v Speaker 2>might sound harsh, but we are the only people in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of our wellbeing. There are things that impact it,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're the only people in charge.

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<v Speaker 3>So could you when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do the groceries and maybe drapes has got Bowie and

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<v Speaker 2>Alfie's at school, sit for five minutes in the car

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<v Speaker 2>and do some of the Stanford breathing, you know, big

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<v Speaker 2>signing through the nose, extra sip of air, big long

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<v Speaker 2>ex How there's a really really good tool. It's called

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<v Speaker 2>implementation intentions. So it's part of a behavior change model.

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<v Speaker 2>And what it is is you create a handful of

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<v Speaker 2>if then sentences. If I'm feeling anxious, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Go for a run.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm feeling overwhelmed at home, I go for a

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<v Speaker 2>ten minute walk around the block.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If I have five minutes before an appointment, I do

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<v Speaker 2>my Stanford breathing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, not a scroll Instagram because it's accessible to me

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a quick dopamine hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>A really good way to stop the scrolling is to

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<v Speaker 2>turn your phone to grayscale. If you want grayscale, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like black and white.

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<v Speaker 1>Never heard of it? Oh, I did do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>do not disturb. I love that. Yeah, but then I

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<v Speaker 1>find myself like turning it off. Sometimes. Yeah, Like eight

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock at night, I'm like, cool, do not disturb by

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<v Speaker 1>Like eight thirty, I'm like in bed about to watch

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<v Speaker 1>Bloody Vanda Pump Rules, And I'm like, oh, under, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we're so dumb. We set ourselves up for failure.

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<v Speaker 3>All the time. No, we're not dumb. We are not dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>The apps are playing to what they know our brain wants. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it is not us being dumb. Our brain knows it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get that little false dopamine hit every time

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<v Speaker 2>that it looks, and you get a new little like

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<v Speaker 2>or a new piece of information. There are two things

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<v Speaker 2>that are really helpful for that. There's an app called

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<v Speaker 2>opal okay that you install on your phone and you

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<v Speaker 2>set what apps you want to shut down and from

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<v Speaker 2>what times, and once you've set it, you cannot unset it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the day that's what the iPhones do with screen time?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it different?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it is the same.

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<v Speaker 2>So it actually shuts the apps down like you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>oh you can't open.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, okay, because you can on the iPhone like Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done that and it's like do you want another

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I do of course I do. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>just shut that shit down.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, people does not allow the fifteen minutes you say

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<v Speaker 2>eight pm to eight am. I want no emails, no

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<v Speaker 2>text messages, no Instagram, no Facebook for that time that

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<v Speaker 2>you set it for.

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<v Speaker 3>The twenty four you cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's daring.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this. Yeah, this is really powerful because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone doesn't really set you up for success with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, because the iPhone wants you on the iPhone

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<v Speaker 2>and then gray scales are other good ones. So it

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<v Speaker 2>turns your phone black and white, super easy to do

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<v Speaker 2>in your settings. Once you've turned it black and white,

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<v Speaker 2>if you open Instagram a couple of times, you'll just.

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<v Speaker 1>Be really, it doesn't look appealing. Pile it. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>because our phones are recording, butilotte very appeal.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll show you after. It makes it very unappealing to

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<v Speaker 3>look out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you just kind of get bored of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Brains that there's no color on border forget. Okay, amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you leave your phone on loud when it's in

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<v Speaker 1>the other room because for me, I know this is odd,

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<v Speaker 1>but I always think, like my dad lives in Perth,

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<v Speaker 1>what if something happens to my dad and they need

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<v Speaker 1>to contact me in the middle of the night. My

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<v Speaker 1>mum lives in Brisbane, she's on her own. What if

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<v Speaker 1>she needs someone. This may sound like an excuse, but

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<v Speaker 1>these are the things that I think about. I have

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<v Speaker 1>it there because I'm just I don't think about putting

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<v Speaker 1>it in the other rooms. Yes, but I always think,

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<v Speaker 1>what if, like someone that really needs me. And the

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing is no one kind of ever has.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can keep it in your room, but put

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<v Speaker 2>it so that you're not when you're lying in bed,

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<v Speaker 2>you would have to get out of bed to.

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<v Speaker 3>Go and get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's resistance.

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<v Speaker 3>There's resistance.

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<v Speaker 2>Create resistance in your environment, and the more resistance, the

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<v Speaker 2>less likely you're going to be able to get up

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<v Speaker 2>and get it. The other thing you can do is

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<v Speaker 2>put override on, so when it's on sleep mode or

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<v Speaker 2>do not disturb, you can have certain contacts that override

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<v Speaker 2>that do not disturb.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And so if Liam Ring's on my do not disturb,

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<v Speaker 3>his call will always come through on louch.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, maybe I need to do that again. Amazing. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some great practical steps. First and foremost, the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is I feel like it can be so overwhelming to

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<v Speaker 1>do personal development. Like most of us have jobs. If

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<v Speaker 1>we have children, great, if we don't, we're still busy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of stuff going on, it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>for me and kind of going through what I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>Drapes go through with his mental health, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>way he could have gone back to work after Master Chef.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on the couch like he was not good

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<v Speaker 1>for like four months, and I watched him get back

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<v Speaker 1>to himself and work on his mental health, but that

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<v Speaker 1>took so much time. He was, honestly like a job,

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<v Speaker 1>and not all of us had luxury to just like

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<v Speaker 1>tap out for three months and sort ourselves out. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels overwhelming sometimes, and people might think that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too hard to do because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have to add one more thing to my day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I listen to these podcasts and I hear

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<v Speaker 1>do this and add this and take this supplement and

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<v Speaker 1>like this will change your life, I'm like, fuck me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm taking the liver, I'm like ewing the walks,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing the training, I'm fucking calorie chounting, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing all these things every day, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have to add two more things. I actually can't

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<v Speaker 1>right now, yeap, So I don't understand how we're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to add any more of these tips into our lives

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<v Speaker 1>to help out mental health and well being if we're

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<v Speaker 1>having a hard time, like do we drop some.

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<v Speaker 2>There are two things that I say, lower the bar,

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<v Speaker 2>Always lower the bar. How many times have you looked

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh, I don't have an hour, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't go do a workout, but can you do five

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<v Speaker 2>squats in the kitchen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds silly, but those five squats immediately released dopamine and

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<v Speaker 2>just help you to lift your mood a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I always think it's about the little.

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<v Speaker 2>Small things that you can implement instead not and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about out doing a three hour morning routine day.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Huberman, Andrew Huberman, but you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Dope, And I talk about this recently. The days of

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<v Speaker 1>four thirty a and wake ups, walking on the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>doing the workout, having a coffee at a cafe, like

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<v Speaker 1>those days are gone for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I took a long time to kind of rewire my

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<v Speaker 1>brain of like shit, I can't do that anymore. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a kid, but now I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>feel good in the morning. It was really hard when

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<v Speaker 1>we first had Alphae to get back to like our

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<v Speaker 1>morning routine and what worked. But like you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of okay, I can't do all the

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<v Speaker 1>things I've got to do. What do you say instead

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<v Speaker 1>of y instead not and amazing?

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<v Speaker 3>And meet yourself where you are? You know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you know you've got maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>A five minute window, what is something you can do

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<v Speaker 2>in that five minute window that's going to make you

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<v Speaker 2>feel really good? And there's a lot of research that

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<v Speaker 2>actually says for movement for your brain, doing ten minutes

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<v Speaker 2>every day is much better than trying to do an

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<v Speaker 2>hour twice a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So consistency, right, Consistency its every day you move

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<v Speaker 1>every day, don't you even like on a Sunday, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>every day when most people having rest days. Your lig's

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<v Speaker 1>still moving.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if it's just a walk, you know, like for

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<v Speaker 2>me because I know it's important to my brain. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about proof points, and it's going to feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit resistant at the start. You know, you're just

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<v Speaker 2>like you might not feel that different. Some things you

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<v Speaker 2>might feel different straight away, but after you're doing it

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<v Speaker 2>for a while, you will realize, particularly when you stop,

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<v Speaker 2>how much of an impact it was having. So the

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<v Speaker 2>five things that I talk about that are in science

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<v Speaker 2>that are absolutely key to improving your well being and

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<v Speaker 2>keeping good well being, mindfulness, good relationships. Longest longitudal to

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<v Speaker 2>study that Harvard ever did shows that relationships are the

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<v Speaker 2>number one key to happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that. Yeah, of course they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They've studied people and then their children and their children

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<v Speaker 2>for eighty years for this study, and they have found

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<v Speaker 2>that not only is it the key to happiness, it

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<v Speaker 2>also helps to prevent Alzheimer's and dementia, anxiety, and depression.

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<v Speaker 2>And so invest in your relation like they are the

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<v Speaker 2>share market, like, really spend time investing in your relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>Movement like so much science around movement. Good nutrition yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these things all feel so simple, but they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>They're simple, not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of my friends have jobs, nine to five jobs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>funnily enough, everyone that I'm friends with here on the

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Rivers, everyone owns their own businesses, right, so we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have this kind of resistance. But what if you're

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<v Speaker 1>working in a job and you've got Sally who is

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<v Speaker 1>being awful to you. She's a relationship that you have

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<v Speaker 1>in your life. You need to work closely with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that going to impact us?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, it impacts you.

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<v Speaker 2>But having hard conversations is really important too, and being

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<v Speaker 2>able to bring that up to your leaders. And if

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<v Speaker 2>it gets to the point where it's that bad, I

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<v Speaker 2>always say, remove yourself from the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>You would absolute dream job, just get out.

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<v Speaker 2>If I would remove myself if it was impacting my health.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not always immediate, and it's not easy, don't

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<v Speaker 2>get me wrong. Like it is not immediate and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not easy, but it's about putting steps in place to

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<v Speaker 2>remove you that can cause significant mental health issues.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's one of the main things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if it's like I'm a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm only speaking from my perspective and I'm speaking

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<v Speaker 1>on behalf of my girlfriends. But I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>men have this stuff in the workplace. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>relationships now because obviously we can control to a certain

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<v Speaker 1>degree our relationships in our own home. We can say

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be married to you, anymore, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can go our separate ways. We can control them

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<v Speaker 1>within our family. Like you know, if it's your sister,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to spend as much time with you

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<v Speaker 1>right now for this reason. You can set boundaries. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't quite do that when you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to work every day and you have to work

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<v Speaker 1>with a specific person on the other side of the table.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's definitely not easy at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I challenged that idea having worked in HR for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time before I went into banking.

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<v Speaker 3>Men have the issues as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, absolutely, they just don't always verbalize it or talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and they deal with it in different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>And usually my experience is that they are a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit sneakier or they undermine rather than having like digs

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<v Speaker 2>at each other face to face.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they don't want to say, hey, this behavior is

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<v Speaker 1>not okay fax zi reason. Yeah, therefore, just like tell

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<v Speaker 1>them the boss the issue your.

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<v Speaker 3>Job, or like sabotaging work or things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>What relationships are impacting my health right now? Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds kind of funny to say that, because no.

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<v Speaker 2>I say do a relationship audit, I say, always do

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship audit.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, so I encourage doing just a well being check

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<v Speaker 3>in once a month, How am I going?

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<v Speaker 2>Where am I at on those five things and just

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<v Speaker 2>taking a moment to reflect and do a relationship audit.

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<v Speaker 3>How are my five closest people to me? How am

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<v Speaker 3>I feeling with that? Have I checked in on them recently?

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's not a way something bad, It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, maybe I haven't called that person. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to just give them a call next time I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing love that, Yeah, and that obviously fosters beautiful relationships

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<v Speaker 1>as well and being supportive, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 1>And your best habits to implement for our mental health

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<v Speaker 1>and wellbeing. You've just talked about the five different areas

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<v Speaker 1>that impact our mental health and our wellbeing. What are

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<v Speaker 1>some habits that you give us to implement and how

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<v Speaker 1>do we actually implement habits? Because we've just had these conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so easy to like turn off, do not disturb

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. How do we get them to actually embed

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<v Speaker 1>to integrate? Yes, effortlessly, because we don't have all the

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<v Speaker 1>time the ways effortless Okay, I'll be honest, there's no shortcuts.

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<v Speaker 2>You may feel more resistance, But discomforts not always bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good for our brain. When we do something uncomfortable,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes our brain grow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and Tira.

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<v Speaker 3>Mid singular cortex, which is our willpower.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of our brain grows when we do something that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hard, phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what I tell myself when I'm doing things

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm going to the gym. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up those weights. I'm like, no, my brain is

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<v Speaker 2>growing today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting a bigger brain after this. Yeah, bigger brain,

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<v Speaker 1>better life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, love it.

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<v Speaker 1>We should for that. Yeah, Okay, cools, the best habits, inflement.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we looking at here?

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<v Speaker 2>So mindfulness yep, breath work every step of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people have barrier to meditation.

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<v Speaker 2>They think we've got to sit there with our legs

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<v Speaker 2>crossed and our arms together and we don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>think about any of our thoughts and it's actually not

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<v Speaker 2>that at all, and just quickly lowering the bar with

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<v Speaker 2>all of these. Okay, you mentioned earlier before we came on.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have twenty minutes twice a day. I get that,

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<v Speaker 2>But do you have five minutes while you're parked waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for our fie to come out of school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I probably check females. Yeah that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So put your phone on gray scale, stick that

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<v Speaker 2>phone in your bag in the back where you can't

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<v Speaker 2>reach it, and just take some moments to do some

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<v Speaker 2>breath work.

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<v Speaker 3>So there are a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a great playlist on Spotify called Meditations that you

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<v Speaker 2>could literally just play through your car. Don't do it

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<v Speaker 2>while you're driving because that could be dangerous. Or the

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford breathing, so it is scientifically proven to lower your

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<v Speaker 2>stress levels in the quickest way possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Okay, so let's go through that one again.

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<v Speaker 3>We can do it together. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So you take a nice big in how through your nose,

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<v Speaker 2>extra sipervera at the top, big long sigh out. Do

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<v Speaker 2>that five times over and that will immediately reduce your

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<v Speaker 2>stress levels. So they have scanned brains while people do

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<v Speaker 2>this breath work, and it shows the brain changing while

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing it, which is phenomenal. The other thing people

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<v Speaker 2>do when their stress is take a big in how

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<v Speaker 2>you know people do that?

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<v Speaker 3>They take a bigin O.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I have been sigg so much treeson. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>ah that, yes, yes, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Sigh is the relaxation, so just know that the ex

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<v Speaker 2>hel is the relaxation. That's what switches on our parasympathetic

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<v Speaker 2>nervous system rest and digest. When you inhale, it's switching

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<v Speaker 2>on your stress response. So just make sure that you're

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<v Speaker 2>exhaling longer than your inhale.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so interesting. I don't think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>would know that. I feel like people think that the

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<v Speaker 1>breathing in Yes, what did you say.

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<v Speaker 2>The parasympathetics, it's a calming breath. No, it's the ex

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<v Speaker 2>hel that is your calming breath.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, which is why when you do yoga and meditation

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<v Speaker 1>with like it instructed, they're always telling you to breathe

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<v Speaker 1>out into your belly, like as.

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<v Speaker 4>Much as you can possibly breath belly. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean if you think about it, you think about

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<v Speaker 4>our ancestors. They've been chased by tigers, et cetera. They

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<v Speaker 4>would have been holding their breath. Right, you're holding your

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<v Speaker 4>breath because you're on edge. So let the ex hel

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<v Speaker 4>out really.

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<v Speaker 3>Long x hels.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that's easy. I can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Great nutrition so Excess sugar has been shown to increase anxiety, depression, inflammation,

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<v Speaker 2>which is damaging to our brain. So just try and

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<v Speaker 2>reduce sugar. The easiest way to reduce sugar is swap

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<v Speaker 2>it out for protein. So you're making meals anyway, You're

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<v Speaker 2>not having to do anything extra. Just make sure you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting protein with every meal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah but you say that, but I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>swap out my Loco Love chocolate at nighttime for a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of steak.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so I think Loco Love is actually really good

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<v Speaker 3>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but start your day with protein, so eggs, protein smoothie,

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<v Speaker 2>something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It just helps you throughout the day to lower the

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<v Speaker 3>sugar cravings.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you start your day with protein, helps lowder

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<v Speaker 2>those sugar cravings, which ultimately gives you a smoother mood

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<v Speaker 2>and reduces anxiety and depression.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it makes you don't want to reach for the

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<v Speaker 1>stickers bar at two o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, less yep movement. So like I said, lower

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<v Speaker 2>the bar ten minutes? Can you fit ten minutes in?

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<v Speaker 1>We can? And so this is it. It is lowering

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<v Speaker 1>a bar. I think like we're looking around all these

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<v Speaker 1>people going like you know, oh, this Instagram account with

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<v Speaker 1>this fit chick. Like today I saw this woman. She

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<v Speaker 1>does five crazy hit workouts a week. Then she does

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<v Speaker 1>like something on a Saturday, and like something on a Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I'm never going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Yeah, I mean maybe one day, but not

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So my brain automatically goes, oh, like she

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<v Speaker 1>looks like that, and she does that, and she's this healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get there. So I know I can do

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes, but I feel like it doesn't actually help me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yesterday when I worked out here, I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>had to do the hour, the last bit of it

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to do, but I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to do this, or I haven't actually done the workout,

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<v Speaker 1>like you do, know what I mean. We're perfectionists, but

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<v Speaker 1>how do we rewire our brains? Like you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I guess it's lowering the bar.

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<v Speaker 3>Something's better than nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all I can do right now, right because if.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have fifty two minutes to do your workout,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to do a workout at all. No, exactly, So

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<v Speaker 3>it's ten minutes better than no minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you are absolutely correct. I know that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hear that, but my brain still thinks like I've still

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<v Speaker 1>got to do the whole thing. You're right, it is

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<v Speaker 1>just changing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's real brain. It's hard and it takes time.

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<v Speaker 2>It does take time, and so I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>say you'll do it for a week and you'll be like,

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<v Speaker 2>on right, it's hard, it's not easy, and you'll fall

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<v Speaker 2>off right, but just get back on doing your ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes every day. You'll then be like, Okay, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of time. After this ten minutes, I can

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<v Speaker 2>up that to twenty minutes. And then the habit is

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<v Speaker 2>already stuck and you're just increasing the habit.

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<v Speaker 1>And can I just say to new mums, lower the

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<v Speaker 1>bar and then lower it again.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Great.

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<v Speaker 2>Next, hip relationships, The science shows an eight minute phone

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<v Speaker 2>call or an eight minute conversation is enough to create

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<v Speaker 2>true connection.

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<v Speaker 3>So give someone a call next time you're driving somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Use your car time wisely, So call someone for eight

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<v Speaker 2>minutes once a week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all it takes, so achievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the last one's sleep. So I say sleep

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<v Speaker 2>is the underpinning of everything. Now, if you were a

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<v Speaker 2>new mum with a baby, sleep is not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be easy for Youah, so over index on the other four. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>don't be hard on yourself with that, particularly if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a new mum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so I love that. Again, it's lowering the bar

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<v Speaker 1>and going like I can't control this little part one

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<v Speaker 1>of my five, but I can control the other five.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you calls manage? What are these five things?

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<v Speaker 2>I just call them the five wellbeing wheel, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>part of the wellbeing wheel. Ultimately, they create I say,

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<v Speaker 2>they create a well armor or buffer because we can't control.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens in the outside world always.

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<v Speaker 2>But it means that when those things hit us, they

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<v Speaker 2>just hit us a little less tough.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you know those people who do the fencing

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<v Speaker 2>and they've got the you know, the best thing on,

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<v Speaker 2>like a bulletproof vest, right, it just slows down the

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<v Speaker 2>impact a little bit. But if you don't have a newborn,

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<v Speaker 2>what I say with sleep is try and keep consistent

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<v Speaker 2>sleep and wake times really important because it helps our

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<v Speaker 2>circadian rhythm and it helps train your body that when

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<v Speaker 2>it gets to a certain time it's time to wind down.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can keep that, if you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you've had a really bad sleep deprived night,

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<v Speaker 2>get your eyes out in the bright sunlight. So the

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<v Speaker 2>minute that you're up and out, get your eyes out

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<v Speaker 2>in the bright sunlight. I know winter it comes a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit later, but that actually kick starts your circadian

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<v Speaker 2>rhythm for the day and it helps you wake up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're not wearing sunglasses.

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<v Speaker 2>No, don't wear sunglasses. You need it into your eyes directly.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously we live in a high UV country, don't we

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<v Speaker 2>walk around all day without you know, sunglasses, etc. But

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<v Speaker 2>first ten minutes in the day the UV is low,

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<v Speaker 2>get out and get.

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<v Speaker 3>Some light in your eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Son, your eyeballs, sun your eyeballs. Didn't know if that

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<v Speaker 1>was a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, very good to kick start your circadian rhythm. Great,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you've had a bad night sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful MOBI part of it, all the work you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. I love this conversation. Thank you and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to your time.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me.