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Speaker 4: On today's episode, Formula One resumes with its Austrian Grand

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Speaker 4: Prix and with Ferrari under serious pressure following reports from

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Speaker 4: the Italian media the team boss Fred Vasser could be

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Speaker 4: under threat in his position. Rock Feenie becomes the first

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Speaker 4: driver to win three races at the Darwin Triple Crown

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Speaker 4: in the dominant weekend for the title leader. And we'll

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Speaker 4: take the temperature of the motop season with TV World

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Speaker 4: Feed commentator Matt Burt after another Mark Marquees victory in Itaaly.

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Speaker 4: My name is Michael Lomonado. It's great to have your

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Speaker 4: company and the company of my co host Speed Italian Excellence,

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Speaker 4: Genius Renaissance. On one side, he's Leonardo. On the other

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Speaker 4: side is Mackia Valley. It's Matt Clayson.

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Speaker 2: I think I'd like to be both a neither at

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Speaker 2: the same time. There's nothing like the Italian round of

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Speaker 2: Moto GP for random one off liveries that are mostly

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Speaker 2: by random one off liveries. But it's a great tradition,

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Speaker 2: as are the press releases that come out.

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Speaker 4: With the press releases are my favorite part. That was

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Speaker 4: a description of the Ducati special Livery.

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Speaker 2: I think that was the press release.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that should have been all it is company with

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Speaker 4: a photo of Mark Marquez and Pecovano playing plain chess.

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Speaker 4: I assume they got through the full game. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: just set up for the photos. But I wait to

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Speaker 4: which would be very exciting. This was a Moto GP

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Speaker 4: just passed. As I said in Austria, will be this weekend.

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Speaker 4: We'll get that a little bit later on, but that

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I guess I should go first and we

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Speaker 2: get supercars in Darwin because I am interested. What I'm

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Speaker 2: mostly interested in is that your crystal ball. I don't

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Speaker 2: where you got this done. Your crystal ball said last

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Speaker 4: It was really all the way, all pole positions, all

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Speaker 4: race victories, and he won the triple crown. No evidence

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Speaker 4: of an actual crown. I was like secondary component of

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Speaker 4: my prediction, tragically, but there's still time for that to

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Speaker 4: But he did at the old fashion WAB. He won

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Speaker 4: last year where he suddenly took these steps forward Phoenie

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Speaker 2: Well, can I have another interested can past the line

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because we're now only two rounds away from the

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Speaker 4: It, Yeah, it's a really interesting twist in a story.

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Speaker 4: With the TV World feed commentator Matt Birt in a

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Likewise, Jara, great to join you guys from what

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Speaker 1: On Monday morning here in Europe. Are very hot and

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Speaker 1: guess it's quite appropriate that we're seeing this sort of

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Speaker 1: Livery Mark, you know, the number ninety three winning them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers certainly were coming up for Market Magello

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I could not agree more. Matts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think right now it's very very high

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Speaker 3: I just don't see how Mark can be beat this year.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing from Mark to fear anymore.

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Speaker 1: And I don't like to say after what nine Grand

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Speaker 3: This is what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Alex's point is that you overtake rising on a GP

436
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Speaker 1: when they're slower than you, when you're faster than them.

437
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,160
Speaker 1: And Peco Banyora, i think was asked this as well

438
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,840
Speaker 1: yesterday and Peco said it's inevitably in those situations.

439
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,640
Speaker 3: He says, I'm.

440
00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,280
Speaker 1: More respectful when I'm racing Frankie Mormadelli, Luca Marini and

441
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,320
Speaker 1: Marco Betseki from the VR forty six Academy because I've

442
00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,200
Speaker 1: grown up with those guys.

443
00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:00,240
Speaker 3: I know them, so.

444
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 1: Maybe i am not cautious, but it's in the back

445
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,720
Speaker 1: of my mind not to be over aggressive bashing fairings

446
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,720
Speaker 1: and rubbing shoulders with him. I think this will be

447
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 1: a theme moving forward in the championship. You know, Alex

448
00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 1: is gonna be under a lot of scrutiny when he

449
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 1: is racing close in Mark. Is he not giving Mark

450
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,879
Speaker 1: a free pass? But is he perhaps been that little

451
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,399
Speaker 1: bit more mindful? You know, if it's Mark ahead of

452
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 1: him in the breaking zone or if it's pack ahead

453
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 1: of him in the breaking zone, would he be having

454
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,920
Speaker 1: two different approaches? But yeah, both of them kind of

455
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 1: did bat it off in the press conference yesterday.

456
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 4: Well, speaking of behind Mark and Alex in this situation,

457
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 4: I'm talking about Pego Vanyaya's third in the standings after

458
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 4: nine rounds. The only race is one is the one

459
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 4: that Mark fell off in in Kota. It's one hundred

460
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,640
Speaker 4: and ten points now only nine rounds into the season,

461
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 4: which is pretty remarkable, and we've heard all season a

462
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 4: pretty similar story. He's licking that front end feeling on

463
00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 4: this GP twenty five. Is this scene in now? I

464
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 4: can think obviously that's the bike he's got his disposed

465
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 4: lend bad points margin. Is it a ride off from

466
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,479
Speaker 4: him now? Both obviously practically but also mentally is what

467
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 4: I'm interested in here, because well, we expected and maybe

468
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 4: he must have expected at least a little bit for

469
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 4: this season to be about that fireworks between him and

470
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 4: Mark makes and the Rossi narrative obviously was bubbling away

471
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 4: in the background of Magello as well. Hasn't really happened, hasn't.

472
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 1: No, it hasn't, and it's been a, to be frank

473
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Speaker 1: a very tough watch. It's quite painful to see Peco

474
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 1: right now, both on and off the bike. Clearly on track,

475
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 1: he's not competitive, completely breathed of any feeling and confidence

476
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 1: in the front end of that CHP twenty five. Pretty

477
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 1: much from when he first jumped on it in Barcelona

478
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: last year, they've been sort of turning the bike upside down, left, right,

479
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 1: you name it. They've tried everything, and they just cannot

480
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 1: get him back in that sweet spot with the front

481
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: and Peko's a rye that relies so much on front confidence,

482
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 1: like so many.

483
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 3: Of them do.

484
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 1: Yesterday, though, I think was so so tough for him

485
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Speaker 1: to accept. You know, I think this year it's one

486
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: thing to be beaten by Mark on the same bike.

487
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 1: You know, Mark is an eight times world champion, one

488
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 1: of the best we've go seen in history. Being beaten

489
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 1: on a regular basis by Alex has been tough to take,

490
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: particularly because Alex is on the GP twenty four, which

491
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: Peco knows like the back of his hand and knows

492
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: if he was on that same baggage, he'd probably be

493
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: as competitive as Alex yesterday. Though, to be beaten in Magello,

494
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: a track where he's made his own for the last

495
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: three years by Fabio jan Antonio, taking nothing away from Fabio,

496
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: but to be the fourth and best to Catty in Magello,

497
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: who I mean, I don't think any of us saw

498
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: that coming in it and it just kind of illustrates

499
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Speaker 1: the sort of dark hole that the Peco finds himself

500
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: in right now. I mean, Michael, you mentioned is it

501
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: a riot off? I think in terms of the championship

502
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I mean, there's just no way in

503
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 1: a million years he's going to recover one hundred and

504
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 1: ten points back on Mark Marquez. You know, people say, oh, well,

505
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: he was ninety one points behind Quateara in twenty twenty

506
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: two and he pulled it off. Yeah, but this is

507
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: a different beast this year on a factory to Catty

508
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: and he's he's, as he said that yesterday, he's in

509
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: one of the best moments of his career. So I

510
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: think in terms of where Peco moves forward now, it's

511
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: almost like the rest of this season, it's just almost

512
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: like what twelve or thirteen test sessions for him, just

513
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: to try.

514
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 3: And find some feeling with that the Catties.

515
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: He's got to just forget about the champion now and

516
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: just work out away with the engineers somehow getting that

517
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: front fee back, because I mean, as we mentioned, to

518
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: not fish on the pody in Migello yesterday for him

519
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: was a real hundling experience.

520
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it definitely felt coming into Migello that it

521
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: was going to be Migello and Assen over that week period.

522
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: It's like, if it's ever going to happen, it's going

523
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: to be now. And certainly the returns from the first

524
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: half of that equation weren't particularly good. But Madam I

525
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 2: did want to switch gears here because after Aragon we

526
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: finally had the confirmation that Willsuperbike Star toprak Rerescut the

527
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: Ugly was coming to Mono GP for twenty twenty six.

528
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: I'd personally banned myself from writing about him because it

529
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: was always is he coming though he's not?

530
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: Is he coming now?

531
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: So now that he is, I can write whatever I want.

532
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: But look, he's obviously.

533
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: A huge name in that series because he's a winner,

534
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: but because of the way he wins. He's such a show,

535
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,479
Speaker 2: but he's got a huge fan base and you following

536
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: for a new market for MONOGP. He's also going to

537
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: be a twenty nine year old rookie in twenty twenty six.

538
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: Those two words that usually go together. So my question

539
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 2: would be, what do you think, realistically we can expect

540
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: for him in this first season in the World Championship,

541
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 2: Because there's clearly no denying the talent. But it's not

542
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: like he's just going to come in and start replicating

543
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: all that superbikes success from day one, is it?

544
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: No?

545
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: I mean, first and foremost, I mean, it's just fantastic

546
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: that finally he decided to take the plunge and come

547
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: over to MANOGP. I mean, as you said, Matt, this

548
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: has been a story, this rumbulin, hasn't it for four

549
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: or five years now?

550
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 3: The will he or won't team make the move, and

551
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 3: finally he has.

552
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: I have to say, personally, I'm I'm quite surprised that

553
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: he's decided to come now. I thought that he would

554
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: probably stick around in superbikes for one more year, particularly

555
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: with the fact that man a GP of course makes

556
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: the move from Michelin to Perodi Tires in twenty twenty seven,

557
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: because is there much for him to gain moving over

558
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: to Michelin for one year next year and having to

559
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: change in twenty twenty seven once again onto Parodi Rubber.

560
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest, it's amazing.

561
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: If you're a montorcycle fan, World Twuperike fan, manag GP fan,

562
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Top Brack Mascat the old group is

563
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: box office. He is an AA list superstar. He's the

564
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: Valentine Rossi of World super Bikes. Great to see him

565
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: come over. I think it's going to be a real

566
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: tough learning curve. You know, the difference in riding style,

567
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: the switch to the tires he is going to find

568
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: very very difficult.

569
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: You know.

570
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: He's superbikes are much more forgiving. They're like sponges, you know,

571
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: they move around a lot. They're flexible. Managed GP bikes

572
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: are rigid, very race stiff. You know, he didn't exactly

573
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: cover himself in glory when he tested the Amaha previously,

574
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: clear that he feels like now the time is right.

575
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: I think initially as a rookie, he's going to be

576
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: looking at, you know, challenging for the points in the

577
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: first part of the season, then getting it in the

578
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: top ten second half of the season. If he's fighting

579
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: for podiums and victories, well then chaplo. I'll doff my captain.

580
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: But I just I can't see it happening. It's a

581
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: it's a Lions then, isn't it.

582
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: My the GP. You know, these guys have got years

583
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 3: of years of experience.

584
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: On these prototype motorcycles Mixlin tires.

585
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, I admire him.

586
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: It's a bold move coming over that late in his

587
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: career to take on the world's bass.

588
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 3: Good luck to him.

589
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that late in his career, and particularly with

590
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty seven rule reset looming as you mentioned.

591
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: But we might get to go back to Istanbul Park Matt.

592
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: That'd be fun, wouldn't it. But while we're talking, while

593
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: we're talking, Rezcutlugli though, obviously him coming to premat Yamaha

594
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 2: next year means that one of Jack Miller or Miguel

595
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: Oliver has got to make way, and Yamaha has got

596
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: this stricky decision here because jackson the one year contract

597
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: and he's performing the better of the two. Let's not

598
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: talk about Magello because Jack certainly doesn't want to. But

599
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: you know, Miguel's got the twenty twenty six deal, he's

600
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: been the second best rider of that peering when he's

601
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: actually been on the bike and not injured this year.

602
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: So you know, there's obviously in Australian slant to this question,

603
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: but do you feel Jack's done enough to be retained

604
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: over McGill or done enough full stop to warrant a

605
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: seat on the grid in twenty twenty six because the

606
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: points table would indicate not, because he's nineteenth in the

607
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: standings and Magello was a disaster, as we discussed, but

608
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: we need to probably look beyond the point standings and

609
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: the impact he's had behind the scenes. Everything we hear

610
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: is very positive. But from your insider's view, do you

611
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: think he's done enough to be on the grid next year?

612
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: Yes?

613
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: I do.

614
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not just saying that someone on Australian broadcast

615
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: deal as well.

616
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 3: As that I do.

617
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think clearly there's a there's there's clauses

618
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: in the Olive Era contract which gives the opportunity if

619
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: Yamaha see fit to cut ties with him. Clearly it

620
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: looks like it is a straight shoot out between Jack

621
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: and Meguel. I think Yeah, the championship positions aside, Matt

622
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: and the points table aside, there's a lot more for

623
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: Jack to offer Yamaha.

624
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very much in the early part of his career.

625
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: He's come from.

626
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: He's written Honter GP, He's written ktms A GP, He's

627
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: written the catsim Manter GP. So he brings a very

628
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: broad spectrum of technical knowledge to the Yamaha project. Jack's

629
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: I think a very safe pair of hands as well.

630
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: He's popular with the Pramac team. He's got an incredibly

631
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: close relationship with the management there, Power Camperozzi and Gina Borsoi,

632
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: and I think Yamaha right now, if they had to

633
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: make the decision now, I think they would take Jack.

634
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: Jack's been in this position before. Has I kind of

635
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: feel a little bit sorry from really, because it seems

636
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: like every year at this stage of the season, you know,

637
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: the media just bombarding questions with Jack, what are you

638
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: doing next year? We've got a contract next year. The

639
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: good news for Jack this time around is I mean,

640
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I think last year, when he knew he was being

641
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: cut loose by KTM, he came to his media debrief

642
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: I remember on Thursday at Silverstone in August, and I've

643
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: never seen him look so down in my entire time

644
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: I've seen Jack in his career because at that time

645
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: the phone was not ringing, there was zero options. He

646
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: had no idea what he's going to be doing now

647
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: if if the GP future, if that road closes.

648
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: We know he's got some very good options in World Superbikes.

649
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: But Jack has made it clear. He made it clear

650
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: once again here this weekend in Magello. He's no desire

651
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: to go to World Superbikes, no disrespect to the super

652
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: bike paddock. He said, he's got great friends over there,

653
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: he loves the racing there, but he wants to stay

654
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: by the GP. Still feels like he's got a lot

655
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 1: to offer, still wants to be riding the best motorcycles

656
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: in the world. And I think I think Yamaha will

657
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: keep him. I think Yamaha are going to go with

658
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: Jack and top Track.

659
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: I hope so, Chris.

660
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: Then we can see the stopping competition between the two,

661
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: can't We's a promat Gama.

662
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: Well on a related Jack question, maybe not totally unrelated either,

663
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 4: And on off track news, I suppose we're expecting a

664
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: call on the Liberty Media acquisition of murder GPS sooner

665
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: rather than later at some point anyway, and because of

666
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: course his expectation, giving Liberty Media's track record with Formula one,

667
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 4: that it helps to raise the pro farll of the sport,

668
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: bringing new fans, expand the reach of it. Drive to

669
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 4: Survivor of course was part of the treatment in Formula one,

670
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: and that was about bringing out the characters of the sport.

671
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: And other than wondering who's going to fill the Gundesteiner

672
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: role in the Moto GP version, how important is it

673
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: in selling that Moto G product, Moto GP product that

674
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: there is more than just one other native English language

675
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 4: writer on the grid to counter or alongside the Spanish

676
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: and Italian contingent which is so dominant. Is Jack perhaps

677
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: better placed as well because of that, aside from his results,

678
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: for the fact that he can bring more to the sport.

679
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.

680
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: You know, I think when the Limited Media acquisition does

681
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: get to fine approve or they're going to be very

682
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: very keen to keep characters and big personalities like Jack

683
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: on board him. He just mentioned who could be that

684
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: the gund stein of Money GP, Well, gund to Steiner.

685
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: Could be that himself.

686
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: This sounds like definitely from speaking to a few close

687
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: contacts in the paddock, gund Steiner will be involved with

688
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: a manegy p team next year, most likely Tech three.

689
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: So he's going to fill his own role, I think

690
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: next year. And I think that does point to you

691
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: know that the Liberty Media's view on how they can

692
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: raise the profile of maney GP bringing in established personalities

693
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: from the from Formula one like Gunter. You know, he's

694
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: a pretty outspoken character, he's a pretty effivescent character, and

695
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: it would be a shame, particularly when somebody like Liberty

696
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: Media is coming in to lose characters like Jack because

697
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: you can, you can hang your coat on him to

698
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: be somebody that can bring in an audience. Like you said, Michael,

699
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: Liberty Media did a fantastic job. Their initial goal will

700
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: be how do we put more eyeballs on manag GP.

701
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: You know, I still think some parts of the world

702
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: it's seems a bit of a niche sport. But Liberty

703
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: Media will see this is a great opportunity. They've got

704
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: a great product. We know for a number of years

705
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: now that we've got great racing, We have got great talents.

706
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: It's just now, how do we tell these stories? To

707
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: a bigger audience, and libery to me, that's what liberty

708
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: to me to do that is their expertise. They did

709
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: it with Formula one and Fingers Crossed. I'm sure they

710
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: will be able to do that with Man a GP.

711
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: And I think if they do keep Jackman, he's going

712
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: to be a key asset to sort of building those

713
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: bridges with a newer, younger audience.

714
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm just curious when they make MONOGP the movie in

715
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: a few years time, who they're going to get to

716
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: play you. I guess Brad will still be available at

717
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: that point.

718
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: But this weekend, so I've already done a deal with him.

719
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna he's gonna be the lead man

720
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: playing Matt.

721
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: But right yeah, I had a word in easier he

722
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: left to he'll have to lose the locks a little bit.

723
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: Thought that's go to the same barber.

724
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I don't think it's a seamless transition

725
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: from John Wick to Matt Burt.

726
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: Never never before mentioned in the same sentence. Until I've

727
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: got one final one for you before we'll let you go,

728
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: and thank you for being so generous with time this morning,

729
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: Monday morning, after Magello We're twenty minutes into this, and

730
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: it's taken as this long to get to this particular

731
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: person because they've rarely been in the spotlight for the

732
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: right reasons the whole season. Talking about Juge Martin, our

733
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: raigning Motor GP World champion. Yes, he's at the bottom

734
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: of the standings, he's done one sprint race at about

735
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: two thirds of a Grand Prix, and he feels like

736
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: he's had about one hundred and one injury since preseason testing.

737
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: We also know he's trying to get out of this

738
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: two year a Prillier deal that he signed basically this

739
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: day last year, the Monday after Migello. How do you

740
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: see this situation playing out here, because it's pretty obvious

741
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: that both parties have lines in the sand here. And

742
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: what's your read on him wanting out of a Prillier

743
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: with so little experience of this manufacturer that he signed

744
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: so spontaneously for last year. And I guess, as aside

745
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: to that, if he's looking to get to Honda, which

746
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: seems to be the rumor during a Honda might be

747
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: a little bit wary here because people forget Martin was

748
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: supposed to come to motor GP with KTM back in

749
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and he managed to worm his way

750
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: out of that one with some contract legal ease. If

751
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: you're hondering, you're a little bit wary of perhaps someone

752
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: that's done this to two other manufacturers. Or does the

753
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: stop watch win out in the end.

754
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I think the stop watching racing will always win out,

755
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: especially when you're in a situation like Honda are where

756
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Alberto Pooch said it a few weeks ago. If if

757
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: he said he was paying to point out that if,

758
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted to be sort of treading

759
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: on his toes in terms of the contract situation.

760
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: But I think it's clear, absolutely clear that if Jorge was.

761
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: Available, if he was interested in coming to Honda, well,

762
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Honda would have the door wide open.

763
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: They'd be rolling out the.

764
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Red car before him, because they clearly feel that they're

765
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: making progress with the r C two on three V.

766
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: They just need a name, They just need a superstar

767
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: on board that bike to.

768
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: Take it back to the next level.

769
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a minefield, isn't it right now

770
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: with a prilier and Haway's contract situation. I mean, I

771
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: don't think anybody nobody saw the situation arise where having

772
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: finished one sprint in half of the Grand Prix that

773
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: he was going to be trying to jump ship. You

774
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: could see a prize reaction. I mean they were completely

775
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: caught cold. I mean, if you're looking at the legality

776
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: of the contract, I guess you knowes perfectly with his

777
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: rights to exercise a clause which he feels is there.

778
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: I mean, has he given a preier a fair crack

779
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: of the whip? Well you have to say no, you know,

780
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: I think he did ninety odd laps at the test

781
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: in November, he did thirteen laps into bang before he

782
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: was trying to be the first Spaniard on the moon,

783
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: and then came back in kata. Yeah, and we all

784
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: know what happened there. So yeah, it's very very difficult,

785
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: isn't it to get inside the mind of an elite

786
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: athlete who you know, who.

787
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: Has a short career.

788
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: If a Prillier does not feel that a prier are

789
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: making the strides or are going to be competitive enough

790
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: for him to win another championship, and he feels that

791
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: Honda on the app Honda might roll out with an

792
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: absolute weapon.

793
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: When we moved to eight fifties in twenty twenty seven.

794
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: Honda clearly going to have a bigger budget, a bigger

795
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: race department than what a p there are, So there

796
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: are so many.

797
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: Factors at play. If from a personal start, I think

798
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: it will be disappointing.

799
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: I feel really really sorry for a Prillier if he

800
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: was to enforce the clause and make the move out.

801
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: The more people you talk to Prillier, the more sort

802
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: of confident they are at sort of smoothing the chopping waters.

803
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: But who knows.

804
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: There's only two people on planet Earth and know what's

805
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: going on that saw him, Marti and his manager Albert Balaira.

806
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: You know, and let's see how it plays out.

807
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean hopefully with this a few vibes around this

808
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: weekend that Joe may be looking at coming back at

809
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: Germany in the Sacks Ring, and we know what he does,

810
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: He's going to be absolutely bombarded with question. It's not

811
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: about the injuries or the comeback, but is he gonna

812
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: be an a Prillier or on the next year.

813
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 4: M Yeah, a remarkable story, potentially great news if you're

814
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: a lawyer contracted to Honda contact lawyer in particular, Matt.

815
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time. Like we say

816
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: the day after Magello this weekend's ass and will be

817
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: able to hear your voice in the commentary then. But

818
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: until then, Matt Bert, the John Wickermodo GP. Thanks So next.

819
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: Time this guy's pleasure catch up.

820
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 4: You see that was Matt Bert, the TV World Feed commentator.

821
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: You'll be able to hear him over the coverage on

822
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: Fox Sports and KO this weekend of the asen TT.

823
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: Whether or not Banaya features at the very front further down,

824
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: we'll wait and see. Crystal Baul is still coming up.

825
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: But before we move on completely, we've got to go

826
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 4: to Move of the Week by Shannon's so Supercars and

827
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: Motor GP to choose from here? Both great tracks. Where

828
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: are you going with?

829
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: I think you know where I'm going. It's going to

830
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: be two wheels because Migello is if it's not the

831
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: best Motor GP track in the world, it's a clevery

832
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: close second behind Philip Island. But to me, the move

833
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: of the week was the move that put Picko bag

834
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: off the podium at this track where he has dominated

835
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: for the best part of three years. Fabio de jen Antonio.

836
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: The fact that he was going to be the leading

837
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: Italian and finishing on a podium at his home Grand Prix.

838
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: He had unbelievable pace at the end of that Grand

839
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: Prix and Banya I was kind of hanging on at

840
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: that point, but you thought he was going to run

841
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: out of laps. The Jane Antonio put an unbelievably slip

842
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: move on him with two laps to go and clear

843
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: it off and was on the podium and his home

844
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: Grand Prix for the first time. Also gave me the

845
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: quote of the weekend as well as the movie of

846
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: the week as well. He said, he looked at his

847
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: pit ball with three laps to go, he said P four.

848
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: He said, no, not today, not P four, P three,

849
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: and he said it was going to be Champagne or gravel.

850
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: And he got champagne. He did not today. Great resolutions

851
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: of an athlete.

852
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're going Hidden Valley here.

853
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 4: No, actually, I'm going Moto GP because I enjoyed the

854
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: week I enjoyed the meaningfulness of this weekend, and I

855
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 4: love Magello Formula one race there and he was as

856
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: a film. I was the first time I'd seen I've

857
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 4: been watching Moto GP, but I think it enlivened me

858
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: to how great it was to see a different sport

859
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: on that. Yeah, So I'm sticking with Magello. I'm sticking

860
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: with it. Wasn't a race winning move. It could have been,

861
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: But was Alex Marquez on lap two of the stringt

862
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 4: the three into turn one. Anytime he had three into turn

863
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: one anywhere in any sport is very exciting. But that circuit, Yeah,

864
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 4: and that's it because it's the fastest point on any

865
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: circuit on Motorgibi calendar, and there's just a lot to

866
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: process ago.

867
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 2: They are shedding about two hundred and sixty five k's

868
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: an hour from the speed trap into turn one at Sandinato,

869
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: which doesn't even seem possible. And then when you're seeing

870
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: bikes fan out to try and take different apexes into

871
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: term one, it's one of those breaking zones, particularly with

872
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: Moto three when there's like ten of them, you kind

873
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: of hide behind the couch like you can't wait to

874
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: watch it, but you're also very wary of the consequences.

875
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: It's a very, very crazy corner. But watching you know,

876
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: motor gpeople like doing mid three sixties through the speed

877
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: trap at Magello, it is absolutely bonkers.

878
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 4: Shouldn't be possible. I realized my jaw always hurts after

879
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 4: watching a race because it's just constantly stressed about it.

880
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: But I thought it was really gutsy move. I mean it

881
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 4: plays in a little bit while we're talking about with Map,

882
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: you know, does E race when it's just spanyaob nine

883
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: another rider compared to his brother a little bit differently

884
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: because that was very gutsy. But you didn't see it

885
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 4: when it was just marking the lead. He saw when

886
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 4: it was both ride this Overtex. But I thought it

887
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: was really great, great demonstration of what's so exciting about

888
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: this track. It's been really good as well, as we

889
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: were talking about earlier, to see Alex in such competitive form,

890
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 4: to be in this great vein of form, and look,

891
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: you do talk about the title being all but done

892
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: and it's difficult to imagine him overcoming his brother, but

893
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: he's only thirty points or forty points now forty po ok,

894
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: it wasn't the start of the again, but forty points

895
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: is within the realms of possibility. Because we were talking

896
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: the only he can't beat Mark, but Mark could beat.

897
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: Mark, and Mark has beaten Mark in the past. Because

898
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: he's already thrown away a couple of good, big results

899
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: this year, and we know he can do that. But

900
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: the thing I like about the Alex Marquez story is

901
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: I like a guy when they've been in any sport

902
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: for five or six years and you think you've worked

903
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: out who they are and what they are. He's completely

904
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: defied anything he's done in the previous five or six years.

905
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: You don't generally get this kick along in your career

906
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: in your late twenties. You kind of are fully formed

907
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: at this point, and I don't think any of us

908
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: saw this level that he had coming. He's been genuinely

909
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: outstanding this year. He's just the second best rider his

910
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 2: own family.

911
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 4: That is unfortunate, yes, but look what can you do.

912
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 4: That's the way it is. Let's move on now, though,

913
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: to Formula One. This weekend the Austrian Grand Prix, the

914
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 4: sport resumes. It's been unusually for everyone. I think it's

915
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 4: only one race in the last four weekends, aw three weekends,

916
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 4: four weeks, pretty much very leisurely for everyone. We've got

917
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: two double headers to bring it home to the mid

918
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: season break, and these could be really important races, particularly

919
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: the next two Austria and then Silverstone after that in

920
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: Great Britain. Because reports ahead of the previous race in

921
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: the Canadian Grand Prix, and the Italian media suggested that

922
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 4: Patients is running out at Ferrari for team principal Frederick

923
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 4: Vasser because of the team's poor start to this season.

924
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 4: He's a boss only a few years into the job,

925
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 4: brought about to replace the other disappointing start to a

926
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 4: season teens always MATI b story as old as time.

927
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 4: But the fact that this came out in a coordinated way,

928
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 4: this was several big newspapers in particular, all reporting at

929
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 4: the same time. It's not that it's a campaign that

930
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: might be your immediate reaction, but rather it's the fact

931
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 4: that there's always a little bit of something in these reports. Media.

932
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: It's renowned for being hot headed whatever, but it's not,

933
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 4: you know, it's not just making stuff up. In the circumstances.

934
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: Ferrari has, for what it's worth, denied it in the

935
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 4: sense they've decided or the statement was that they're not

936
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: going to dignify it with a response. You might cast

937
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 4: your minds back only a few years to when it

938
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: fulsomly and wholesomely denied, mative and not I was going

939
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: to be sax. Indeed, month or two before he was sas,

940
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: but it's come on very quickly. You know, this has

941
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: been a poor start to the season for Ferrari. Their

942
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 4: holds now being picked. In Frederick Vassar's position, I mean,

943
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: what's your take on the way this season has started,

944
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 4: because it definitely has been below expectations. But this feels

945
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 4: a little bit hasty.

946
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

947
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: Look, as far as the media narrative and the management

948
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: narrative go, is this not just a product of communication

949
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: on both sides, in that the press, there is a communication,

950
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: there's a consistency with the communication and the message they're

951
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: putting out. Vassa is not going to manage Ferrari in

952
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: the way that perhaps an Italian might manage Ferrari, or

953
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: certainly but not I did or someone else. Further on

954
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 2: the line. He has his own syncratic style, and I'm

955
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: wondering if how much of this is I think they're

956
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: very aware that it's been underwhelming at the start of

957
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: the season, but he has a different way of responding

958
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: to that than perhaps some of his predecessors might have,

959
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: and perhaps in a way that the Italian media in

960
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: this situation aren't necessarily enjoying. So I'm wondering if this

961
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: is a reaction to the way Vassura is handling what's

962
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 2: going on Ferrari as opposed to just the actual performance itself.

963
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: It's more a perception that do you need to be

964
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: reacting more strongly to this underperformance because I don't think

965
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: anyone's going to disagree that they have underperformed so far

966
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: this year. But how much of it is the reaction

967
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: to the underperformance than the actual underperformance itself.

968
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 4: Yes, And I think communication is a really good thing

969
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 4: to insert here because one of the most important things

970
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: that vass has done in his team principleship other than

971
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 4: sort of steady of the ship, WHI yet more management

972
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: upheaval and straighten out the pitball a bit because strategically

973
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 4: we all love to make fun of Ferrari on the pitwall,

974
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: but it is a tighter ship now than it was

975
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: when you took made mistakes this year. But you know,

976
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: every team has it's the idea of being that shield

977
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: over the team, because that's inevitably in its successful periods,

978
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 4: has been a team princil has been able to cop

979
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: the flak and let the team not feel the pressure

980
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 4: of the media. He's done generally good job of that,

981
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 4: but What strikes me is that his willingness to be defensive,

982
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 4: or his attitude or his approach to being defensive is

983
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 4: to not give really anything away, which is which is

984
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: okay when there's signs of progress. But I think when

985
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: you have, as you say, that underperformance and the response

986
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: to that under performance, you know, it's not clear what

987
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: upgrades are coming, and it's not clear that the team

988
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: understands its problems because he refuses to talk about this,

989
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: and it's not clear what Lewis Hamilton's problems adapting to

990
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: the car is because he doesn't want to talk about them.

991
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 4: And I think that that eventually when you can't see progress,

992
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: and we shouldn't forget Italian Ferrari's status essentially as an

993
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 4: Italian national team. Yes, that's not the case. It's a

994
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 4: private company. There is a certain responsibility there to have

995
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: no information about why it's gone so wrong this year

996
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: relative to expectations last year. I think does invite some criticism.

997
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: Now he's he's objected quite a lot to the to

998
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 4: some newspaper reports identifying problem individuals in his team, in

999
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: particular his new technical directory from Mercedes Lloyd Sarah. I

1000
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 4: understand that, but I think there is space for him

1001
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 4: to have done this job a little bit differently, doesn't

1002
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: warrant him being sacked, but to have not attracted this

1003
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 4: sudden on sort of criticism, which now, and this is

1004
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 4: the part I think there is a little bit of

1005
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 4: a problem. He's now saying we can't win a championship

1006
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 4: with media like this, and that I don't like to

1007
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 4: see that because that seems very deflective to me a

1008
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 4: little bit.

1009
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he's very protective of the employees, which I think,

1010
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: which I think is correct, and I think that's where

1011
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: Ferrari's tripped itself up in the past. This strikes me

1012
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: it's more a selling of the message than the natural

1013
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: message itself. And I think there's this I'm going to

1014
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: put the shutters up and say nothing rather than try

1015
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: and spin a story. And perhaps there needs to be

1016
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of give and take here is like

1017
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: we will throw you a bone and sell you a

1018
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: vision of this. Now it's still not come to fruition,

1019
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: but we're almost letting you in on the inside. And

1020
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: this is what we are trying to do to fix this,

1021
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: as opposed to just lead us to fix it and

1022
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: don't ask any more. Questions. So perhaps it's a sales

1023
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: position there, and that could be something that's cultural lost

1024
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: in translation. He's not going. He doesn't want to be

1025
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: seen to be marching to the drum that's being the

1026
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: drum of the Italian press in this situation, and so

1027
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: with no information to report upon, then you end up

1028
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: with these sort of orchestrated things of what happened in Canada.

1029
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: So look, the great soul for all of this is,

1030
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: let's get some good results. But we know this year

1031
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: that hasn't necessarily happened with Ferrari, and given we've got

1032
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: such a rule change coming in for twenty six here,

1033
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: it would actually be silly for Ferrari to direct too

1034
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: much attention into twenty twenty five. The problem being we've

1035
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: still got so long of this season to go, and

1036
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: if Ferrari is sort of cast adrift from these teams

1037
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: up the top, that pressure is only going to increase.

1038
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: The last thing you knowed just Ferrari going into a

1039
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: new rule set is more management upheaval, and you need

1040
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: stability and a chance to move forward, not a lot

1041
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: of stuff going on behind the scenes.

1042
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, exactly right, and it's people will have

1043
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 4: their own opinions of the job that has done, and

1044
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 4: you do want to go into next year's rule changes

1045
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: with a solid setup, but the time to make those

1046
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: changes has passed. I think vass is not exactly the

1047
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: right man for the job. I don't think there's anyone

1048
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: who thinks he's not a good enough man for the job,

1049
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. He's got track record in all

1050
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 4: junior series. He's clearly done a good job at what

1051
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: he's done Ferraris so far, and if this season's been disappointed,

1052
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 4: and this has been one season in which the progress

1053
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: has not been positive, and it uses you say, a

1054
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 4: year before a major rule change, when attention naturally should

1055
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 4: be looking to next year anyway, So it'd be very

1056
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: interesting to see how this develops. The reason why the

1057
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: next two races could be important is that some of

1058
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: those reports are pegged Canada, which wasn't great, and the

1059
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 4: next two races as being the test for him before

1060
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 4: Ferrari decides whether or not to move Hi along. This

1061
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: is the end of his contract as well, so it

1062
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: wouldn't necessarily be a case of sudden sacking if you

1063
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 4: like to stress it like that. And weirdly, some of

1064
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 4: the pressures coming from elsewhere in the organization, because of

1065
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: course Antonello Coletta, who runs the World Endurance or the

1066
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 4: Endurance arm of Ferrari, for Ferrari's doing pretty well in

1067
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: the World Endurance cham.

1068
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: Doing rather well. Yes, bad confluence of timing, wasn't it.

1069
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 4: No, So we'll wait and see how this one develops.

1070
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 4: They could really use a good result in Austria. Maybe

1071
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 4: you'd like to predict it in the crystal Ball not

1072
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: do by complete home filtration.

1073
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: No, I would not.

1074
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 4: Maybe it is working a bit better.

1075
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: Than Wow, my crystal ball if on in Austria, I

1076
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: don't like to say this with my Oscar past Australian

1077
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 2: hat on here. I think this is the Lando Norris weekend. Oh,

1078
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: simply because he's got form here. Remember his first F

1079
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: one podium is here in twenty twenty. He's always been

1080
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Speaker 2: very good around here and quite frankly, it should have

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00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: won it last year, but there was a bit of

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00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: a problem with Max fistap and it turned three at

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00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: the Red Bull Ring, which is you know, stop me

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Speaker 2: if you've heard that one before. But this feels to

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Speaker 2: me like a bit of a McLaren bounce back weekend

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00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: there was a little bit muted in Canada, and Canada

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00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: is such a weird outlier of a track. Austria is,

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00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: you know, the world's fastest go cart track. It's a

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00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: very very simple layer. It's a layout that should suit McLaren.

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Speaker 2: I can see Norris being very very good here. I

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00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: can also see you up until about four o'clock in

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Speaker 2: the morning if Red Bull lose in some situation at

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Speaker 2: home they don't like, and we have Christian Hall to

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Speaker 2: bring print outs to his post brief debrief, and I'll

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Speaker 2: see that you're still active on what'sapp at six thirty am.

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Speaker 4: As long as George Russell doesn't win, and we're saying probably,

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Speaker 4: we're probably fine, We're probably fine.

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Speaker 2: What's your crystal ball is batting a very high percentage

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Speaker 2: at the moment, so.

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Speaker 4: Well, good news for you. Is was quite a similar prediction,

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Speaker 4: but it's more it is Lando Norris specific, because this

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Speaker 4: is a big moment for Lando Norris. The crash after

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00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 4: Canada has a great potential to damage his confidence. Now

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00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 4: that's not the way he says. He works and look

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Speaker 4: at remains to be seen. Maybe just has a perfectly

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00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 4: normal Norris weekend. He makes a mistake in Q three,

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00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 4: I finished the second or third, that's fine, But I

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Speaker 4: think this is because red Will normally does quite well here.

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00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 4: Max normally does quite well here as well. I think

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Speaker 4: that the coincidence of factors is going to lead us

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Speaker 4: to a not a repeat of what happened last year,

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Speaker 4: but he's going to have his chance to fight Max again,

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Speaker 4: and I think this is the opportunity for him to

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Speaker 4: definitively prove whether or not he's got it this year.

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Speaker 4: And I think he's going to beat Max in some capacity.

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00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 4: Turn three, maybe turn one, who's to say. But this

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00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 4: is his opportunity not simply to win the race, but

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Speaker 4: it might not be the case of winning the race,

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Speaker 4: but to actually start making progress on all those things

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Speaker 4: we are denoting to him now saying that he can't

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Speaker 4: fight Max. For staffing, he doesn't have the confidence of

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00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 4: the races, he can't qualify well, it's a long list

1123
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Speaker 4: now of reasons he won't win the championship. Correct, it's

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00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 4: too early to say he won't win the championship, but

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Speaker 4: I think this is the first race where he's going

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Speaker 4: and not seem they have a good weekend, but tick.

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Speaker 2: One of them off and the fact that comes well

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Speaker 2: and the fact that comes so soon after Canada, and

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Speaker 2: this is the time to write that, because if you

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Speaker 2: want to change a narrative, you need to do that

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00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: asap after what happened in Montreal. They kind of got

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00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 2: away with it with what happened with Pastrian in Montreal

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00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: because it wasn't for a race win and Piastre was

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00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: able to at least get some points and Norris was

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00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 2: the biggest victim of his own mistake. But you need

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Speaker 2: to address this right now, or this narrative just runs

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00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: and runs and runs, and this weekend might be the

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Speaker 2: weekend he does it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. So it's important for him because if nothing else,

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Speaker 4: there's only four rounds left till the mid season break,

1141
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Speaker 4: and you don't want to be going to the mid

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00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 4: season break on a low, considering his season has not

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00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: gone to plan. One of these races at least is

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Speaker 4: going to show a little bit of fight and get

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Speaker 4: a few back over Oscar. If you think he's going

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00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: to challenge for the title, lot that we need the

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Speaker 4: championship Roscopias for ennything other than good news for Australia obviously,

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Speaker 4: but many weeks to find out how that one unravels.

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Speaker 4: But that's all the time we have for Pittalk today.

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00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,120
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Speaker 4: review as well. This weekend it's the Dutch Motorcycle TT

1153
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 4: with lights out at ten pm on Sunday, and then

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Speaker 4: straight after that it's the Austrian Formula One Grand Prix

1155
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Speaker 4: with lights out at eleven pm, and then Steward's Investigations

1156
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Speaker 4: taking us right through to six or seven in the morning.

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Speaker 4: Moto TWPF one and supercars news at Fox Sports dot

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Speaker 4: com Dot A you from Matt Clayton and me Michael Lomonado.

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much for your company and we'll catch you

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Speaker 4: next week.