1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: On scorn Lands Ostrodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show. 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panety show coming 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: up tonight. Did Scomo deserve his King's Birthday honor? As 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: the former PM gives some sage words of advice to 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: the coalition, Dan While will be here to unpack all that. 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: We'll also look at Jackie Lamby's colorful advice to the 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: AFL as the Tasmanian senator implores the league to find 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: its snackers. Professor Implymer will join me to discuss Australia's 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: international reputation being damaged by overregulation. Corey DeAngelis will have 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: all the latest from the US, and later in the 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: hour Gap Power joins me to cover everything from the 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: aftermath of Elon Musk's meltdown to the latest on Greta 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: Thumberg's ill fated trip to Gaza and left He's losing. 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: It is all about the rights in LA but first 15 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: good Morrison has been awarded a Companion of the Order 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: of Australia and the King's Birthday Honors for his leadership 17 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: of the nation's COVID nineteen response. The former PM had 18 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: some words of advice for the Coalition to told The 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Australian newspaper that since COVID we've become more focused on 20 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: treating the symptoms than treating the cause in policy, and 21 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: that's obviously a mantle for the Coalition to take up now. 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: He also said that liberals need to realize that it's 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: not just about being responsible financial managers. You can't just 24 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: say oh, we're going to balance the budget. Well, what 25 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: does that mean? How is that helping me? How does 26 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: that address the opportunities that I have joining me now 27 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: for more on this As Deputy Executive Director of the 28 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: Institute of Public Affairs, Dan Wild, Dan, this King's Birthday On, 29 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: let's start with that. Is it deserved or not? Which 30 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: given Australias some would say extreme COVID response. 31 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: I don't think it's deserved in this particular instance reach 32 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: or at least for what it was provided for. I 33 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: do think it's right that the birthday on has acknowledged 34 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: those who have given significant public service, and Scott Morrison 35 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: has certainly done that. But to specify that it be 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: made for the COVID nineteen response, I think really diminishes 37 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: the value of that honor's list because our COVID nineteen 38 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: response was a complete and total disaster. It was a 39 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: case study in everything not to do, both at the 40 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: federal level and the state level. Although I will give 41 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: one bit of credit, which was when the federal government 42 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: did close the borders internationally very early on in twenty twenty, 43 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: which was the right move, But everything that came after 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: that was the wrong thing, including handing out billions of 45 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: dollars to Daniel Andrews to shut down the state of 46 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: Victoria and lock up millions of Victorians for the longest 47 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: time of any jurisdiction in the world. So look, I 48 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: think that Scott Morrison would probably benefit from the idea 49 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: of dignified silence, you know, rather than trying to wait 50 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: into these debates. 51 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: Yes, the National Cabinet, I think ended up being a 52 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: disastrous idea and the fact that the premiers were so 53 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: emboldened and there was no pushback from the federal government, 54 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: no pushback from Scott Morrison to some of the extreme 55 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: measures they were taking, and not just extreme in limiting 56 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: people's freedoms, but just the economic carnage. We have seen 57 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: the harm done to young kids. The list is long, 58 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: as you know. But what do you make of his 59 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: advice to the Liberals that they have to be more 60 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: than just sound economic managers. I mean it's the sort 61 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: of advice that I wish he'd given himself when he 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: was PM, because as you may well recall, he was 63 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: famous for saying there's no jobs in the culture wars 64 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: and he was really kind of absent from some of 65 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: those important debates that are centered around values. Well, that's right. 66 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: I think that you know, Scott Morrison's comments lacked credibility, 67 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: you know, on the economy as well as on culture 68 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: as he mentioned, but on the economy. Don't forget he 69 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: was the Prime Minister who, along with Josh Fredenberg, signed 70 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: Australia up to net zero. I mean, one of the 71 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: most economically illiterate policies that we've ever seen as a nation. 72 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: And the reason they signed up to it was actually 73 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: to save Josh Freidenberg's seat. Well how did that work out? 74 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: You know, it didn't work out politically and it's been 75 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: a disaster for our economy, for our society, regional Australia, 76 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: as well as undermining our national security because it makes 77 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: us more dependent upon the imports of solar panels and 78 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: wind turbines, the majority of which come from China. So 79 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: no matter which element you look at, net net zero 80 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 2: has been a complete disaster for Australia. So you know, again, 81 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: I respect anybody who's engaged in public service in you know, 82 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: including Scott Morrison who's put their hand up and had 83 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: their name on a ballot and given it a go. 84 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: But really I think she's opening on this matter. Does 85 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: lack credibility? 86 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: Now re elected Tasmanian Senator Jackie Lamby has lashed out 87 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: of the AFL. She had some choice words for AFL 88 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: CEO Andrew Dylan and Tasmanian Devil's boss Brendan Gailees and 89 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: to Lamby met with the duo and left the meeting 90 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: very unimpressed Dan. She said the AFL is going down 91 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: the gurglar and needs new leaders with some knackers between 92 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: their legs. She also said I'd built myself up and 93 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: was ready to go, thinking I was going to have 94 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: to take on an Eddie McGuire type thing, and it 95 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: was like walking into a sauna. Here, everyone, get your 96 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: towel wrapped around you. Let's have some fuzzy wuzzy time. Jesus, 97 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: this should have been united this should have united Tasmania, 98 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: but instead it has ripped us apart. She also said 99 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: they need a hard man at the top, somebody with 100 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: some knackers between their legs. Christ Almighty, these are all 101 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: direct quote. By the way, I'm not at living here 102 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: at all. She also said someone better go back in 103 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: there that's got some balls between their legs, because there 104 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: is some shit going on in there that needs to 105 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: be fixed. To put aside the colorful language, does she 106 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: have a point about the AFL and it's a Tasmania strategy. 107 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I quite follow the sauna analogy there that, 108 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: you know. Putting that aside, I think that I think, 109 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: you know, Senator Lamby's assessment of the leadership of the 110 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: AFL is correct. The AFL has been lacking in leadership 111 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: for a very long time. She said that going down 112 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: the gurgler, well, I think they've will have truly gone 113 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: down the gurgler in many ways, not just with the 114 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: handling of the Tasmania situation, but maybe years ago, the 115 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 2: AFL gave up being a real sporting code and basically 116 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 2: became a you know that, I guess a wing of 117 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: the Labor Party in essence by promoting you know, the 118 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: labor parties to visit social agendas and supporting you know, 119 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: the Voice to Parliament and various other forms of activism, 120 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: and having a welcome to country ceremony before pretty much 121 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: every AFL match, and dividing the AFL community. Also acting 122 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: in a way that's inconsistent with what fans want, you know. 123 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: For example, fans don't want the rules to be changed 124 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: every year. They want to bring back state of origin, 125 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: they want to keep the AFL Grand Final for Saturday afternoon, 126 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: not moving it to the evening, and various other things. 127 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: So basically everything that the AFL community wants, AFL Headquarters 128 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: opposes and does the complete opposite thing. So I think, 129 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: you know, putting aside Senator Lamby's you know, somewhat ambiguous metaphors, 130 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: I think that her assessment of the massive failures of 131 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: corporate AFL is bang on. 132 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: Now, global sportswear giant NIGI has decided to end it's 133 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars ambassadorial partnership with former Stralien of 134 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: the Year Grace Tame after she posted some radical left 135 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: content online attacking supporters of Israel and platforming some really 136 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: quite disturbing views her maas sympathizers. Essentially. Reportedly of particular 137 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: concern to the brand was Tame's decision to repost a 138 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: statement from Palestinian writer Mohammad L. Kurd, As reported by 139 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: the Australian newspaper. El Kerd's statement appeared to condone the 140 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: murder of two Israeli embassy officials in Washington and angrily 141 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: attacked journalists who reported that the slayings were an act 142 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: of anti Semitism. He wrote, the media class is scrambling 143 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: to reframe the shooting that targeted to Israeli state officials 144 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: as a random anti Semitic attack, even though it was 145 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: undeniably and by the alleged shooter's own admission, a response 146 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: to the ongoing Israeli assault on Gaza, which killed one 147 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: hundred and seven Palestinians in the last twenty four hours alone. Dan, 148 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: this is quite a significant move by Nike. That've always 149 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: been more for a long time anyhow, been very left 150 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: in their political messaging, in their ads. They're not afraid 151 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: to be divisive. But Grace Tame was too far left 152 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: even for Nike. 153 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, reader. I think we might have talked 154 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: about this last week when it looked like Nike was 155 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: going to dump the sponsorship, and now they've done that. 156 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: And look, I think this is an important decision by 157 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: Nike to draw a line in the sand and say that, 158 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: you know, there's certain forms of activism that they're not 159 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: going to tolerate. And you know, again, as I've said previously, 160 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: I think that it's a shame because a lot of 161 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: what Grace Tame was representing and advocating for in terms 162 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: of domestic violence and abuse of women. It's a very 163 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: important issue that should be used to unite the community 164 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 2: behind that important cause. But you know, when some of 165 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: these advocates end up engaging in social activism, they have 166 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: the effect of diminishing the couse that it is that 167 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: they're standing up for. And I think ultimately Nike really 168 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: had no choice but to severtize. And you know, hopefully 169 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: this sends a bit of a message that if you're 170 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: going to be an advocate for important causes in the community, 171 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: that it's better off that you stay to those causes 172 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: rather than deviating into different political issues that will ultimately 173 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: divide the community. 174 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: Well, talking about deviating from political issues and dividing the community, 175 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Greta Thumberg. She's gone from climate change warrior to anti 176 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: Israeli activist and the IDEA has bordered the ship, the 177 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: boat she was on. They have taken control of the ship. 178 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: The activists have been arrested without resistance, accepting water and 179 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: sandwiches from the IDEF. I don't think any of them 180 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: are in any trouble, but this prompted Greta to post 181 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: this pre recorded video. 182 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: My name is give A Chamber and I am from Sweden. 183 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: If you see this video, we have been intercepted and 184 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 3: kidnapped in international waters by the Israeli occupational forces or 185 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: forces that support israel I. Urge all my friends, family 186 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 3: and comrades to put pressure on the Swedish government to 187 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: release me and the others as soon as possible. 188 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: So much Hyperbly kidnapped dad. It hardly looked like a 189 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: kidnapping to me. But what has she achieved with this 190 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: little mission of hers I'm not too sure. 191 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: I assume the sandwiches were vegan options that were available 192 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: to those on board. 193 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: Plastic wrapped. Oh no, they're wrapped in plastic, Dan, this 194 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: is this is very taping. 195 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. 196 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: Maybe they won't they won't be able to eat them 197 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: now as a moral sort of moral virtue. But look, 198 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what Greta is trying to achieve. It 199 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: sort of seems a bit old hat now. I'm not 200 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: too sure how seriously she's she's sort of taken. You know, 201 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: I've often wondered whether she's you know, a bit of 202 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: a front for you know, those who are more motivated 203 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: to try to do something. But you know, you just 204 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: look at it and think, well, she's still quite young. Yeah, Look, 205 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm not too sure what she's trying to achieve by 206 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: doing this. 207 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: I think her power is pretty much diminished. The way 208 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: she was used by a tool by others when she 209 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: was a child doesn't apply anymore because they would yes 210 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: have her at the forefront of these causes, and you 211 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: couldn't criticize her because she was a child after all, 212 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: so you couldn't actually even dispute some of the nonsense 213 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: she was saying. And once she turned eighteen, that change, 214 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: once she became an adult and you could actually hold 215 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: her to account as you would any other activists. I 216 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: think that has really seen her power and influence diminish somewhat. Dad. 217 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: While it's always a pleasure. Thanks for your time joining 218 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: me now is a esteem geologist and author, Professor Ian 219 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: plymer Ian. Let's start with energy expert Soul Cavanick. He's 220 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: written in The Australian that an anti investment ideology has 221 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: taken hold, meaning that we now have a reputation of 222 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: over regulation and of finding excuses to say no to projects. 223 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: He writes, we have become so accustomed to politicize delays 224 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: and cancelations of projects we're surprised when a project is approved. 225 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: Common sense is now being cherished as the exception rather 226 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: than the rule. The seven year delay to an approval 227 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: that always should and would ultimately be given is the problem. 228 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: Investors have to ask themselves if they should even bother 229 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: trying to invest in Australia if they have to wait 230 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: this long just to know if their investment is welcome. 231 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: This is why the next wave of gas investments is 232 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: happening in the US and the Middle East instead of 233 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: here in Is he being too harsh now? We just 234 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: being careful in protecting the natural environment in having these 235 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: regulations in place. 236 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 4: Well, I think he's absolutely on the money. Investors want 237 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 4: to make a profit while they're doing that. They employ people, 238 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: they pay taxes, they pay royalties, they add infrastructure, and 239 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: no investor worries about having to fulfill certain approvals. This 240 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: is done for the community good and for the environment. 241 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: But this has got absolutely and totally out of hand. 242 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 4: For example, in the Pilborough, to build the roy Hill 243 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: iron ore mine in an iron ore mining district, in 244 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: an iron ore mining state, in an iron ore mining country, 245 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: four thousand, nine hundred and fifty approvals were needed. That 246 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 4: costs hundreds of millions of dollars, That costs years of delays. 247 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: And this is at a time when our country has 248 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: low productivity, when the unions are capitalizing on having a 249 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: labor government, so they're getting more muscle in the Pilborough. 250 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: And then of. 251 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: Course a government's in debt and they will think, Hm, 252 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: we've stolen all this super money with unrealized capital gains. 253 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 4: Maybe we could do that with a mine. Maybe we 254 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: could steal the profits before they're made. And so as 255 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: an investor you think, well, why should I invest in Australia. 256 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: Why not investing in Africa? And in the case of gas, 257 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: just the time to get the approvals and the conditions 258 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: on those approvals make it a very very long and 259 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: expensive process. So what has happened now is we've had 260 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: a massive drop in investment in Australia. We have eighty 261 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: mining projects that are now on hold. No one dares 262 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: go ahead with them because you don't know what the 263 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 4: future holds, and mining requires a very long term stability. 264 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: If I have a geological idea, by the time that 265 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: idea is drilled out and we do the feasibility studies 266 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: and build a mind, it's twenty five years and then 267 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: you need another twenty five years of production to pay 268 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: that back. So you cannot have governments having knee jerk 269 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: reactions because investment money is very fickle. It'll just move 270 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: somewhere else, and it'll move to countries which we regard 271 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: as very very high risk. But Australia, unfortunately is one 272 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: of the high risk countries of the world, and it's 273 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: getting worse. So I'm not surprised. I think the comments 274 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: were fairly restrained, and those of us in the mining 275 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: industry they full well that there are better places to 276 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 4: invest money than Australia. 277 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: Well, right now the Trump administration is turbocharging mining projects 278 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: over there. They want to not just become energy independent, 279 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: but become an energy superpower. Is that going to put 280 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: even more pressure for Australia because we've got investors that 281 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: can opt for America instead of US. They don't even 282 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: have to go to Africa or South America. 283 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: Well, that's very much the case. There are for Australian 284 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: companies who are looking at oil and gas in the 285 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: US simply because it's too risky in Australia. There are 286 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 4: quite a few companies that are looking at downline process 287 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 4: in the US rather than doing it in Australia. Why 288 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: because energy is cheap and if you do not have 289 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: cheap energy and do not have reliable energy for a 290 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 4: long period of time, you cannot have a manufacturing industry. 291 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 4: So the whole of the economy in the US is 292 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: based on cheap energy. That's why people are flocking there 293 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: to invest. But in Australia we're becoming a renewables powerhouse. 294 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 4: Energy has got far more expensive, it's unreliable, so why 295 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: invest here. So it's all about the cost of energy, 296 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 4: and we are having Australian companies that have made money 297 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: in Australia and are now looking at investing that money 298 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: in the US. That shouldn't happen. 299 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: Well, can we be become an renewable superpower? This is 300 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: something Chris Bowen has long talked about, is that the 301 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: alternative here, Well, it's. 302 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: Made as totally and totally dependent upon China. And as 303 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 4: one of your earlier guests, Dan Wild mentioned, the Chinese 304 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: control our systems for generating wind power, they control our 305 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: systems for generating solar power, they control our transmission systems. 306 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: They could turn off these systems in an instant and 307 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, we wouldn't have energy. All of 308 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: a sudden, we wouldn't have food being transported to the 309 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: markets and to the cities. So we have lost our 310 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: sovereign security by putting energy in the hands of a 311 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: foreign power. You cannot run a successful country unless you 312 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: have cheap, reliable energy. And what our renewables investment is 313 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: doing is forcing us to have expensive and unreliable energy 314 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 4: and to be dependent upon someone else. This is a 315 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: terribly dangerous path to go to heren. 316 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: And I've got some good news. The snow season has 317 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: started and despite the warnings we had that Australian kids 318 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: will not see snow, it's going to be a bumper season. 319 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: They're saying it's the best in several years. And at 320 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: the same time we've got Queensland recording temperatures as low 321 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: as half a degree in some areas, residents waking up 322 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: to frost. So we're run out of time in but 323 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: good news for Australian kids, many more years of enjoying, enjoying. 324 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: J Climon, thank you so much for a time. 325 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: Good night, Thank you. 326 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: See that's why we call it climate change. Now we've 327 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: got to call it climate change, not global warming. They 328 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: give you a time, professor, good night, Thank you. Still 329 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: to come, Left is losing it, plus the latest from 330 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: the US, including the lawless protests in California Forridangelis is 331 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: up next. You're watching the reader Panning You show, and 332 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: it's time for Left is losing it and the Democrats 333 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: and their radical, violent wing are reminding the world tonight. 334 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: Why Donald Trump won the election in a landslide, winning 335 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: every swing state, the popular vote, and the all important 336 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: Electoral College with a massive margin of three hundred and 337 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: twelve to two hundred and twenty six votes. And the 338 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: heart of Trump's America First agenda was ending the illegal 339 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: immigration crisis and deporting the millions who flooded in illegally 340 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: in recent years. And you will not find a better 341 00:20:44,000 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: ad for that policy than the scenes in LA right now. Yes, 342 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: the lawless thugs are demonstrating precisely why they should be 343 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: deported and why those who break the law to support 344 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: them should be locked up. As the National Guard is 345 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: called in to restore order, the fires continue to burn. 346 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: Some of these fires have been burning for so long 347 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: that the cars are almost gone. Look at that. But 348 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: authority is the National Guard will restore order. As these 349 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: writers found out. Some of these writers found out. 350 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 4: They're coming out. 351 00:21:47,760 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 5: They're coming out. 352 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: And while the Mexican flag was proudly flying throughout these protests, 353 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: the American flag was really nowhere to be seen unless 354 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: it was being set alight. Yes, they proudly fly the 355 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: Mexican flag, but they burned the American one as they 356 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: riot to stop being deported to Mexico and other countries 357 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: they hold in higher esteem than America. This is the left. 358 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: It's what they do, whether it's Antifa, BLM or these 359 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: lawless thugs. Remember, the violence from the left intensified as 360 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: soon as Trump became president. The first time. 361 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 6: Police had to push back the protesters so firefighters could 362 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 6: get to the fleemes. 363 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 7: Small fires had appeared all day, this up to the temperature, 364 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 7: which of course was the point. 365 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 8: One demonstrator through a flash bangrenade back at police. 366 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: It exploded in an officer's face. 367 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 5: And save to your gas. 368 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: Six officers reportedly injured. Funny how that was never called 369 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: an insurrection. The Democrats have always fanned this sort of violence. 370 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: They have incentivized it, they have defended it, and even 371 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: as La descends into violence and chaos, they are calling 372 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: for more his Democrats. La City council member Hernandez telling 373 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: protesters rioters really to escalate their tactics. 374 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 9: They know how quickly we mobilized. That's why they're changing tactics. 375 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 8: Because community defense works and our resistance has slowed them 376 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 8: down before. 377 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 10: And if they're doing their tactics, then so are we. 378 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 10: When they saw up, when they saw up, we got 379 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 10: to throw up even stronger. 380 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: And La Mayor Karen Bass also defended the protest and 381 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: trumpeted LA's sanctuary city status. 382 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 11: We are going to fight for all Angelinos, regardless of. 383 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 5: When they got here, whether they have papers or not. 384 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 11: We are a city of immigrants, and this impacts hundreds 385 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 11: of thousands of Angelinos. 386 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: You know, it was only last year when Democrat congress 387 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: Woman Maxine Waters was accusing Trump of being divisive and 388 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: engaging in dangerous rhetoric. 389 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 8: I am going to spend some time with the criminal 390 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 8: justice system, with the justice system, asking them, tell us 391 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 8: what's going on with the domestic arians. Are they preparing 392 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 8: a civil war against us? Should we be concerned about 393 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 8: our say? What is he doing with this divasive language? 394 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 8: It is dangerous and we're going to have to make 395 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 8: sure that we understand that we're not at risk with 396 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 8: this man talking in the way that he's doing. 397 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: Oh, Maxine Waters had plenty of fears, fevered dreams about 398 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: Trump and his supporters starting trouble. But it's the left, 399 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: always the left resorting to violence and right there to 400 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: defend the protesters and defend the rights of illegal immigrants 401 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: to stay in the country illegally, was the congresswoman. Let's 402 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: have a listen to Maxine Waters. 403 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 11: Hughes deportation as a way to enhance his position. 404 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 5: We're all to fate. 405 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 10: Where you're out there. 406 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 11: We don't want his country to be a country a 407 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 11: potball coming from other broadcasts. It's outrageous. It is horrible, 408 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 11: and we've got to make sure that we do everything 409 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 11: every parts of the care because I think he's up 410 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 11: to creating martial life. 411 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: He even look together we alluded to civil war. This 412 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: from the woman who has a long champion feral behavior, 413 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: who has called for her ideological opponents to be harassed 414 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: and intimidated even when they're out for dinner, And now 415 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: as California descends into a lawless, violent protest, she's fanning 416 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: the flames with this sort of talk. Here, she's asked 417 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: about the National Guard being called into restore order. Don't 418 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: you think about the National Guard being here Trumps deploying 419 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: them and not our own governorate. 420 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 11: Well, the thing about it is, I don't know why 421 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 11: they're here with guns. 422 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 5: Whom are they going to shoot and for what? Why 423 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 5: are the gun Why are these guns here? 424 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: That's my question. 425 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 11: I don't care. Why are the guns have to be 426 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 11: Santuary City. We know Trump doesn't like us, we know 427 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 11: that it's tring to try to use us as an example. 428 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: Is she kidding? Why they're guns? Why are they there? 429 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 5: Are? 430 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: Because violent miscreants have taken over the streets. They're attacking 431 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: law enforcement and generally being lawless thugs. Does she expect 432 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: the National Guard to go in there with Teddy Bears 433 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: and hug these criminals into submission? And if that wasn't enough, 434 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: Maxine then showed up at a detention center and tried 435 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: to use her congressional authority to gain access. It didn't 436 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: go too well, as the kids say, not Today's Satan. 437 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 11: Well, I watched Hello, Hello, Hello, congress Roman writer. 438 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 6: I just came to use my congressional I'll go to 439 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 6: chapline Bears. 440 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 11: Now I need to get in. 441 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 8: I need to get it. 442 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: That was pretty delicious footage. At the end there joining 443 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: me our is American Culture Project Cedia Fellow and school 444 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: choice advocate Corey Deangelus. Corey Donald Trump couldn't have hoped 445 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: for a better advertisement for his deportation program, and then 446 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: the violent uprising we're seeing in California right now. 447 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 10: Yes, this is a great advertisement for Trump's deportation program, 448 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 10: but it's also a great advertisement for the Republican Party 449 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 10: in general. The Republicans already beat the Democrats on the 450 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 10: issue of immigration overwhelmingly in the last election, and now 451 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 10: this is only going to cement that view in voters' minds. 452 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 10: You look at the images from Los Angeles. It's a 453 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 10: war zone right now, and it's because the Democrats can't 454 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 10: keep their house an already. Look at Democrat runs cities. 455 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 10: We saw this in twenty twenty with the George Floyd protest. 456 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 10: They were burning cities all across the country. You had 457 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 10: mainstream media calling it mostly peaceful protests that were fiery, 458 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 10: and we're seeing the same kind of problems right now. 459 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 10: And you have Gavin Newsom trying to tell Trump to 460 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 10: call off the National Guard. 461 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 9: They're siding with the criminals. 462 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 10: They're against the victims in these situations. 463 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 9: They are against personal property rights, they're with the looters. 464 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 10: And you know, voters don't like this. If they're paying taxes, 465 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 10: they want to be protected. They don't want criminals roaming 466 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 10: the streets. You see the Mexican flag being flown all 467 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 10: across Los Angeles. This is supposed to be America, not Mexico. 468 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 10: And so this is this is only providing more advertising 469 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 10: for Trump's efforts because you know, one of his main 470 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 10: arguments is that a lot of the immigrants are not 471 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 10: assimilating with American culture. You see them in these photographs 472 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 10: and these videos with flags that aren't even the American flag. 473 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 9: I mean, it's making Trump's point for him. 474 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Well, we've seen scenes of them burning the American flag. 475 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: That's the only time I've seen the American flag in 476 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: these protests is when it was being burned. And you're right, 477 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: where is Governor Newism seems to be doing more harm 478 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: than good. The local authorities seem to have run soft 479 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: on this as well, releasing ridiculous statements saying the peaceful protests, 480 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: and they seem to be completely unprepared for the violence 481 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: of the left, even though we see it often enough. 482 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: And you mentioned the Mexican flag. I think this image 483 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: really summed up the protest. You can see the lineup 484 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: of police cars in this image shrouded in thick black smoke, 485 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: and you've got a mass protest there there flying the 486 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: Mexican flag. This, to me, Corey is just the height 487 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: of absurdity. These people are flying the Mexican flag and 488 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: violently protesting to avoid being deported to Mexico. If you 489 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: love Mexico so much that you're flying their flag on 490 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: American soil, why are you so opposed to going back there? 491 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, look, this is an invasion, it's an insurrection. If 492 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 10: you want to take the words from the left and 493 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 10: use it right against them. But look, I mean this, 494 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 10: Los Angeles is supposed to be the home of the 495 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 10: twenty twenty eight Summer Olympics, and all we have right 496 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 10: now is they're public officials using mental gymnastics to defend 497 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 10: the criminals, the rapist and the murderers and not the 498 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 10: victims of all these crimes. So you know, you were 499 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 10: already We're already forecast in twenty thirty that California is 500 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 10: going to lose four electors because they're losing population already. 501 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 10: More people are going to flee California. They have beautiful beaches, 502 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 10: they have a great weather, but they're still losing population 503 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 10: because they have numbskulls running their state into the ground. 504 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: Well they do. And as California is in disarray, you've 505 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: got in New Jersey. UFC three sixteen was underway and 506 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: Trump was there and is now customary walking occurred again 507 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: to thunderous applause and krey. As soon as the big 508 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: fights were one, the fighters were jumping out of the 509 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: cage to shake Trump's hand. Here is Mehror devilishly. 510 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 5: Thomas, He's an unjuged man he's a monster. 511 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 10: He's a monster. 512 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: He's a monster. 513 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: And look he's not even not a breath. 514 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: He tried that chunk in the first round too, shows 515 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: ever to depend but I mean you're tier, You've been 516 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: worn down, and eventually he gets that choke. 517 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 9: Look at Moracos. 518 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: Second meeting. More time of it than the first judge 519 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: is not needed tonight, Corey. There certainly has been a 520 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: big cultural shift in the States, more so in sport 521 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: than in entertainment. But you are seeing Trump embraced these 522 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: sporting events, particularly the UFC, but also football games, and 523 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: he's enormously popular with even in places you willdn't expect 524 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: him to be popular. New Jersey is a blue state. 525 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's right. Trump is a man in the people. 526 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 10: He won all seven swing states in November twenty twenty four, 527 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 10: and he's continuing that trajectory. See winners like Trump, and 528 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 10: Trump likes to win too, So you can see that 529 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 10: in his policies and you can see it in his 530 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 10: public events as well. We saw us at football games 531 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 10: leading up to the election. He's a very popular guy 532 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 10: and he's he's a man of the people. Your everyday 533 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 10: citizen can can relate with Trump, and it's just as 534 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 10: it's obvious. 535 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 9: A plus. 536 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 10: The main thing is that his policies are great, especially 537 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 10: when it comes to things like education, immigration, keeping cities safe. 538 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 10: Hopefully some states like California and New York can learn 539 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 10: from from Republican led states to be safer and. 540 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 9: To have a better education system too. 541 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: I think New Jersey's it can be won. I mean, 542 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of those that it is a polarized country. 543 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: We might talk about Trump being popular. He is loath 544 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: in those deep blue states, that's for sure. But I 545 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: think New Jersey is one of those ones where at 546 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: the next election or maybe the one after, it could 547 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: become a red state because the people there are are 548 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: sick of the Democrats abandoning them and the issues they 549 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: care about. They have become so radically left some lest 550 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats find their way, they are in danger of 551 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: losing states like New Jersey. Now let's marvel at this 552 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: ridiculous piece from the Washington Post about life on Martha's 553 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: Vineyard and Nantucket being disrupted after migrant workers were shackled 554 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: and boarded onto Coast Guard boats, igniting fear among undocumented workers. 555 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: They call them who form the backbone of the island's workforce, Cory, 556 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: is this not the same community in Martha's Vineyard that 557 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: called in authorities when a few dozen illegal immigrants were 558 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: sent their way from Florida. I mean that were removed 559 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: within a couple of days, if I remember correctly. And 560 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: now we're supposed to feel sorry for them because they 561 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: chap labor's gone. 562 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 10: Yeah, they're afraid that they're not going to have their 563 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,479 Speaker 10: low cost labor. The elites over there and want people 564 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 10: to mow their yards and to serve them. 565 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 9: At the dinner table. But look, yeah, they're total hypocrites. 566 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 10: And this just goes to show you that so much 567 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 10: of these knee jerk reactions from elites and these kind 568 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 10: of cities, it's all just based on who. 569 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 9: They don't like. 570 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 10: So a few years ago, is they didn't like DeSantis. 571 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 10: They thought DeSantis had a shot at becoming president, so 572 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 10: they wanted to respond by saying, oh, well, we don't 573 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 10: like what he's doing by sending the immigrants here, even 574 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 10: though they said they were a sanctuary city and they 575 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 10: embraced immigrants. 576 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 9: But then now that Trump is trying to go the 577 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 9: other way. 578 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 10: On the same issue and to deport immigrants from Martha's Vineyard. 579 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 10: Now all of a sudden, they come out with their 580 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 10: Trump arrangement syndrome. 581 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 9: That's all this is. It's the It's more of a 582 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 9: political argument than anything else. 583 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: And let's end with the media. ABC News has a 584 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: suspended correspondentary Moran after he posts the most unhinged diet 585 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: tribe on x imaginable about President Donald Trump and Trump's 586 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: deputy chief of Staff Stephen Miller Corey. This was a 587 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: crazy rand, he wrote, and he's deleted this, but the 588 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: damage is done. He wrote, amongst other things, Miller is 589 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: a man who is richly endowed with the capacity for hatred. 590 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: He's a world class hater. You can see this just 591 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: by looking at him, because you can see that his 592 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: hatreds are his spiritual nourishment. He eats his hate, he 593 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: eats his Corey. This is demented, even by ABC standards. 594 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: I could not believe this. I thought he'd been hacked, 595 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: but no, he's responsible. 596 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a classic case of pure projection. And I mean, 597 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 10: you can see his hatred just seeping through that tweet. 598 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 10: He later deleted it. 599 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 9: Maybe he was drunk when he was tweeting this. I 600 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 9: don't know what happened, but. 601 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,479 Speaker 10: It's very surprising to me that ABC is actually doing 602 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 10: something about it. I would have figured that he would 603 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 10: have got a promotion at this left wing news outlet. 604 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: For he's only suspended. Corey. 605 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, maybe one when it blows over, he'll he'll 606 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 10: get a raise or something. 607 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 9: In a couple of months. 608 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: Well, let's not forget Donald Trump sat down with him 609 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: for that one on one interview and he was fairly 610 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 1: thoroughly embarrassed. He was unprepared for that interview, and Trump 611 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: held him to account when he made some claims boldly 612 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: and when he was questioned he's like, oh no, no, 613 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, I'm just asking the question, and when 614 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: he'd actually been making a statement. There were quite a 615 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: few examples there. Corey DeAngelis always a pleasure. Thanks for 616 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: your time. 617 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 9: Tonight, Thank you reader, good talking to you. 618 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: Still to come. The fallout from Elon masks meltdown as 619 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: President Trump comments on the billionaires alleged drug use. Gabriella 620 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: Power has the details. Welcome back, joining me now as 621 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: host of the Power Hour, available across Guy In News 622 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: Australia's digital platforms. Gabriella Power gab Let's start with allegations 623 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: made by former advisor to Donald Trump about Elon Mask. 624 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: He claims that Elon shoulder charge Treasury Secretary Scott was 625 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: sent after a war of words turned physical just meters 626 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: from the Oval office. Gabber, what else can you tell 627 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: us about these allegations? 628 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 12: Oh my gosh, all Elon Mask just keeps bringing so 629 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 12: much drama to the White House. But as you say, 630 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 12: this is really interesting because this is coming from Steve Bannon, 631 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 12: a former advisor to Trump, and he has told the 632 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 12: Washington Post that essentially eli and Scott Besson got into 633 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 12: a physical altercation back in April. So Scott Besson and 634 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 12: Elon Musk were pitching strategies around the IRS to Donald Trump, 635 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 12: and Donald Trump was apparently backing bessence, and Elon Musk 636 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 12: was not having any of it and allegedly treated Scott 637 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 12: Besson like a rugby player and put a shoulder into 638 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 12: his rib and the two of them had to actually 639 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 12: get torn. 640 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 5: Apart by other people that were in the room. 641 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 12: So who knows what Elon Musk was actually on at 642 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 12: this point in time. Elon Musk is quickly learning how 643 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 12: politics works, and that is not how you handle a disagreement. 644 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: Well, no, and that wouldn't explain that black eye, because 645 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: if that happened in that timeframe, that the black eye 646 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: was far more recent than that. So I don't know. 647 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: Maybe he got into a rugby taggle with somebody else. 648 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: Let's see now. From President Donald Trump, he was asked 649 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 1: about Elon Musk's possible drug use. 650 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 5: Did you have any concerns about his drug use when 651 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 5: he was working for you? 652 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 10: I don't want to comment understrug news, I don't know. 653 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 10: I don't know what his status is. I read an 654 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 10: article on the New York Times. I thought it was Frankly, 655 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 10: it sounded very unfair to me. 656 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 5: You said earlier today that mister Musk had a problem. 657 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 5: What did you mean by that? Did you misjudge him? 658 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: May? 659 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 10: I don't want to talk about problems. I think that. 660 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 5: I think the United States had problems that. 661 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 10: If you look at the numbers day, the numbers were. 662 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: Unbelievable, Gab. This clash was inevitable in many ways, and 663 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: Elon Musker made a major major miscalculation here. I don't 664 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: know if he was on something. I suspect it possibly was. 665 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: When he was tweeting some of that reckless, crazy retoric. 666 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: He's gone back and deleted most of it. But he 667 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 1: thought perhaps being the world's richest man meant that he 668 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: could be the world's most powerful man, and he is 669 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: not that, And he found out the hard way that 670 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is potus. 671 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 12: Isn't it interesting because so how long were we hearing 672 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 12: from Democrats in the mainstream media they were so concerned 673 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 12: about Elon Musk's influence over Donald Trump. And Donald Trump 674 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 12: is showing that he really didn't have much at all. 675 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 12: And Donald Trump is the most powerful person in America, 676 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 12: not Elon Musk. But you're right, reader, I think Elon 677 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 12: has realized he made a massive mistake. He has deleted 678 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 12: that bombshelled sweet that was absolutely ridiculous, linking Donald Trump 679 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 12: to the Epstein files. He's deleted that. And he's not 680 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 12: only deleted that, he's now starting to show that he 681 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 12: is groveling because he is now resharing on his x 682 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 12: feed posts that Donald Trump has made in response to 683 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 12: what is going on in Los Angeles at the moment. 684 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 12: So look, they are both patriots, and Elon Musk is 685 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 12: supporting Donald Trump publicly once again over Donald trump support 686 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 12: for what is unfolding in Los Angeles and both absolutely 687 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 12: tearing apart Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass because they cannot 688 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 12: handle cannot show that they have any control over what 689 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 12: is unfolding with his Vibe protest. But as you say, 690 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 12: you know, Elon Musk has made a mistake. I think 691 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 12: he's realized that, and I think he's quickly trying to 692 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 12: patch things up. Let's see how forgiving Donald Trump is. 693 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 12: But I think many Americans would like to see them 694 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 12: working together again. 695 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,919 Speaker 1: Well, yes, for the good of the country, you would 696 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: like to see that. But he's got to know his place. 697 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: He can't have another episode like that. And you're right. 698 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: I've heard some absolutely crazy commentary today from some you know, 699 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: veteran pundits saying, some of the trouble in LA it's 700 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: not a coincidence that it started when Elon Musk and 701 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump have fallen out, as if that has anything 702 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: to do with it. I don't know what planet some 703 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: of these analysts are on. But now decorated gymnast Simone 704 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: Biles has clashed with women's sports campaigner Riley Gains on X. 705 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: You posted something quite nasty, writing you're truly sick all 706 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: of this campaigning because you lost a race, straight up, 707 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: saul loser, You should be uplifting the trans community and 708 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive, or creating 709 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: a new avenue where trans feels safe in sports, maybe 710 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: a transgender category in all sports. But instead you bully them. 711 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: One thing for sure is no one in sports is 712 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: safe with you around bully someone your own size, which 713 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: would ironically be a male gap. Nasty, nasty and low. 714 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 1: And I've got to say Files has been roundly criticized 715 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: here because Ralegh Gains not only was she beaten by 716 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: a man, but she has worked tirelessly ever since to 717 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: protect girls and women from men taking over their sport. 718 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, she does. 719 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 12: But there's a lot of support for Raley Gains here, 720 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 12: and this is one of the biggest stories in the 721 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 12: US right now. And someone Files wrote that horrible tweet 722 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 12: when Raley Gains was called out that there was a 723 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 12: biological male competing in its softball tournament and where else 724 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 12: but Minnesota tampon tim country. But look, Riley Gaines has 725 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 12: hit back at Simon Barles' comments, and she's brought in 726 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 12: or she's brought up rather Larry Nasa, of course, the 727 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 12: convicted pedophile who was convicted for assaulting hundreds of young girls. 728 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 12: Now read you exactly what she said. She wrote all 729 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 12: the horrific sexual abuse at Simone Bile's witness and spoke 730 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 12: out against caused by one man, yet believes women should 731 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 12: be forced to strip naked in front of men to 732 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 12: validate the man's feelings. You know how many gold medals 733 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 12: you'd have if your inclusive dream came true? 734 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:33,959 Speaker 1: Zero? 735 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 12: Now, Riley Gaines also clarified her position that she absolutely 736 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 12: hopes that this convicted pedophile, Larry Nasa, spends the rest 737 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 12: of his life rotting away in prison. But at the 738 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 12: same time, men do not belong in women's sports, and 739 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 12: female athletes continue to be failed by a system that 740 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 12: protects men at the expense of women safety. And look, 741 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 12: she's absolutely right, and we're just seeing that support for 742 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 12: Riley Gaines at the moment. 743 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: Now, I wanted to get your reaction to the IDF 744 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: boarding Greta Thunberg's so called freedom Yachta. What did you 745 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: think of this little expedition by Greta Thumberg. Did she 746 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: achiever aims? I mean, she's certainly got a lot of 747 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: international attention, which is what I guess she's really after. 748 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: She's in the business of attention seeking. 749 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 12: This pr stunt of hers has spectacularly failed. It was 750 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 12: always going to I mean, this narcissist Greta Thunberg, who 751 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 12: has spent so many years being so hysterical about climate change, 752 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 12: and now she's showing support for her muss on this ship, 753 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 12: which was absolutely ridiculous. She was bringing in barely any 754 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 12: aid to Gaza, thinking that she was going to be 755 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 12: some hero. She was going and doing CNN crosses and 756 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 12: live streaming it. And even before Israeli authorities took control 757 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 12: of this ship, she even recorded a video saying that 758 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,720 Speaker 12: she had been kidnapped by Israeli authorities. If anything happens 759 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 12: to her, it's because she's been kidnapped. 760 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 8: You know. 761 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 12: She has just become such a laughing stock if she 762 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 12: wasn't already, and it's brilliant. We have heard from Israeli 763 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 12: officials that were reacting to this and keeping us all 764 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 12: in the loop pretty much instantly. They clarified that all 765 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 12: the passengers and the celebrities on board the selfie yacht 766 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 12: are of course safe, unharmed, and they were provided with 767 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 12: sandwiches and water and selfie is well and truly over. 768 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 12: But just to put it into perspective, how much aid 769 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 12: they were actually carrying, and it was less than a 770 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 12: single truckload of aid. And just for some perspective, more 771 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 12: than twelve hundred AID trucks have entered Gaza from Israel 772 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 12: within the past two weeks. Congratulations go to Thunberg. That 773 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 12: has just been a spectacle for us all to laugh at. 774 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 12: And she has completely foiled. She's on her way back 775 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 12: to Israel and then she'd be going home. 776 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 1: I do like that term selfie yacht though. That's something 777 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: new that we can have fun with. Now I've got 778 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: to ask you also about Hugh Jackman and Deborah Leaf Furness. 779 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: They were the Golden couple for so many years. Their 780 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 1: divorce is getting increasingly ugly. They've begun splitting up their assets, 781 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: including their real estate assets thirty six million dollar apartment 782 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: in Manhattan, gab. There's even talk that Deborah Leaf Furness 783 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: might do a tell all book. Oh wow, this could 784 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 1: really blow up Hugh Jackman's good boy, well, golden boy images. 785 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: He's been always known as this mister nice guy. 786 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 12: Absolutely well, that would be an interesting read for sure, 787 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 12: but as you say there right now, splitting up their assets, 788 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 12: they've got two hundred and fifty million dollars, that's what 789 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 12: that is their fortune that they have to work out. 790 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 12: So this divorce is probably going to get pretty messy, 791 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 12: as you say. That thirty six million dollar penthouse apartment 792 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 12: in New York City. It's in the Chelsea District. Beautiful 793 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 12: area it's got. It's a three bedroom place, five thousand 794 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 12: square feet. It looks out to the Hudson River. The 795 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 12: apartment features an elevator entrance, a library that convert to 796 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 12: a fourth bedroom that wants to a chef's kitchen with 797 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 12: a breakfast bar. You know, it certainly looks pretty fantastic. 798 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 12: But they have some places all over the world, not 799 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 12: just in the United States, here in Australia as well 800 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 12: and the UK. So I think we'll be seeing more 801 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 12: reports as they work out how to divide up their fortune. 802 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: Yes, and apparently Hugh Jackman is now living in that 803 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: apartment with his new lady who he perhaps was seeing 804 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: for many many years throughout his marriage, allegedly allegedly a 805 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: gab power. Pleasure to speak to you tonight, Thanks for 806 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: your time, and that's all. The time we have, I'll 807 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow night at eleven up. Next it's Newsnight 808 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 3: Six