1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: This is what the plus, I'm me and It's Monday, 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: the tenth of November. Today, Brett and Justin will be 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: sharing the second part of their deep dive interview with 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Lee hatton financial operations lead at Block, the company behind 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: Square after Pay title music platform, and much more. But 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: before that, here are the top three business news stories 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: from Australia and around the world. The ATO has reported 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: that the total tax debt book has jugged from approximately 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: eighty six billion dollars to over one hundred and one 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: billion dollars. This is the biggest rise in national tax 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: debts since two thousand and three. In other news, sales 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: at Zimmerman have searched since the luxury Australian fashion Bryan 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: was acquired by an American private equity firm. Despite challenging 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: conditions in the broader luxury sector, Zimmerman expanded its doors 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: globally and reported record sales of over six hundred and 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: forty five million dollars for last financial year. And finally, 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: Netflix has reported that ads on its platform had reached 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: over one hundred and ninety million monthly active viewers globally. 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: In its recent company earnings called, Netflix reported that their 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: yearly ad revenue is expected to double next year. That's 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: it for me today. Are pass it of its friend 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: justin for the insightful conversation with Lee Hutton. 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: Lee, I know Jack Dawsy has been very bullish on 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: crypto for a long time and Block ranks me the 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: top of publicly listed companies that hold crypto. Has that 26 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: been like a key focus as part of your role 27 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: but also just amongst the organization or is that just 28 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: something that's happened because you know, people can transact on 29 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: the cash app. 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I personally feel really lucky about this one, 31 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: in particular because bitcoin was not something that I had 32 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: spent much time on, probably coming out of the traditional banks, 33 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: but also too, like I've spent years with regulators, so 34 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: starting to think about unregulated currency was pretty out there, 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: and so you know, I've really had the benefit of 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: the last few years of really eating deep and understanding 37 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: the strategy and the origins of bitcoin, not just what 38 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: it's lead to and not just the headlines about the price, 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: because it's not all crypto we talk about. We talk 40 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: about Bitcoin I and using bitcoin as the Internet's currency 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: for the future, and we are building tools so that 42 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: people can keep it safely and so that they you know, 43 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: they can basically use it as an everyday currency. And 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 3: so I think, yeah, I'm I'm super impressed with what 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: we have achieved as a company as it relates to 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: bitcoin and making it really accessible to everyone. But even 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: more than that, I've just been totally blown away. We 48 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: had our block by block party a couple of weeks 49 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 3: ago and it was like nine and a half thousand 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: people over in San Francisco. It was insane, like totally 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: and you know, we had a panel there of people 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: that have been like extradited from their countries for you know, 53 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 3: trying to doing the right thing, but extradited. And as 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: a result of that, you know, bitcoin has been the 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: only way that they have been able to save people's 56 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: lives or you know, be able to get access to 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: funds for people in need that need to escape. And 58 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: so you when you see the real persons side to 59 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: what bitcoin can achieve, you kind of get rid of 60 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: the coin bro stuff like you put that to the 61 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: left and you go, you know, there is a real 62 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: consumer news case here and it really is making a 63 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: difference in people's lives. Feels really good, That's awesome. Lee. 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: If we had this conversation again in five years time, 65 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 4: and I'm sure we will, what would you say you 66 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: and Block achieved globally over that five year Pio, What 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: would you be really proud to be able to say 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: that you achieved. 69 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: Well, I think we have just launched some pretty insane 70 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: stuff around neighborhoods, which is like bringing Square sellers and 71 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: our consumers together to build this kind of singular network. 72 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: One of the things that I think cash ap has 73 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: just been insane on is like network capability, and so 74 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: as a result, now being able to bring Square sellers 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: and cash app consumers together is just super exciting. We've 76 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: obviously and embedded after pay into cash app in the US, 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: and so we're unlocking that and you're really starting to 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: build this whole environment that is very open. It can 79 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: seem closed, but it's very open in terms of access, 80 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: and it's totally changing the game for what it costs 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: consumers to do lending or transactions, and it's totally changing 82 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: the game for the way that sellers are able to 83 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: do transactions, move money, be able to make sure that 84 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: people can purchase things and be repaid. And so I 85 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: think there is just this total reimagination of the financial 86 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: system that is going on that we're really creating, which 87 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: is super super exciting. I think taking that globally, like 88 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: really globally over the next five years, so that these 89 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: are household names for us here in Australia, the household 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: names in the UK and the rest of the world. 91 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: That for me will be like this massive tech, there's 92 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: also this huge unlock. I think, as you know, like 93 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: tied is one of the ways that we empower artists 94 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: to own their own work. Like how beautiful is that? 95 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 3: Like letting people be in control of their own destiny. 96 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: And I think the more we think about different adjacencies 97 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: that will support that will be really important too, because 98 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: again AI is now giving us all the capability to 99 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: be coders. It's just not a meeting before and one 100 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: of the guys said, hey, this person should go goz 101 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: are not an engineer, And it was like, actually, we're 102 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: all engineers now, Like I was y coding, Mark, were 103 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: you bib coding like. 104 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, waiting to be dropped? 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, everyone's bib coulding. But I think this 106 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: is the thing where you've got infrastructure. I don't know 107 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: if you've seen in America, everybody is applying for a 108 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: bank charter saying similar things could occur here in Australia 109 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: or New Zealand, because like the reality is why not, right, 110 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: Like it is not hard now, Like it used to 111 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: be really hard to comply, but now we have systems 112 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: and processes, machine learning models, like there is stuff place 113 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: that sees play within the rules. Right, it's not that 114 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: hard and now you can do that without it actually 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: being a massive heavy lift. There are there's great software 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: tools that you can use now to do these things. 117 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think there's just going to be a 118 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: massive amount of competition, but some great consolidation and I think, 119 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: you know, branding and cultural impact to be huge. One 120 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: of the things I love about our business is we 121 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: have this massive focus on like taste. It's like, how 122 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: does it look like is your instinct working with it? 123 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: Do you feel really proud of it? Like is it 124 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: your best work? And like unleashing that in twelve thousand 125 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: people's pretty pretty powerful and now doing it with the 126 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: tools that everyone just kind of has their fingertips. Yeah, 127 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be It's dangerous for all 128 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: the right reasons. 129 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that if you weren't running block. What's 130 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: the job that you would secretly or not so secretly 131 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: love to try and test your skills out. 132 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: I would love to be a doctor because it's so 133 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: often stay at work. Hey, we're not saving lives here, 134 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: and so maybe subliminately I'm thinking to myself, maybe she 135 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: can't save lives. 136 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 4: Wonder that's a very good answer. Actually, is there a 137 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: leader that has inspired you most? It could be inside 138 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: or outside of the business world. Is there a particular 139 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: leader that has really stood out for you? 140 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: So the one that really is shaped too, really that 141 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: shaped my career. The first one was a woman called 142 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: die Rump And if people google who they probably won't 143 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: find her. And she I don't even know if she's 144 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: on LinkedIn actually, but she was a woman that I 145 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: worked with in my early days at Bank of New Zealand. 146 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: Maybe it was Wespect one of them. I think she 147 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: took me actually from Whispec to Bank of New Zealand. 148 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: But the thing that she inspired me with was so 149 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: I now have three I have three boys. They are eighteen, 150 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: sixteen and twelve. They are total magic, right Charlie John 151 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: zach And I remember in my career kind of like 152 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: where do you fit kids in? Like you fit them in? 153 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Like what does it look like? And I worked with 154 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: this woman early on in my career. I just got 155 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: married and she was really busy. She was always at work, 156 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: and I was thinking, oh, just what happens with these 157 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: kids that she has? And one day Mitch got sick 158 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: and I remember thinking, where's Die gone? Like the moment 159 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: they needed her, she was with them right. Work was 160 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: like gone, everyone else can look after it. I'm with 161 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: my child. It's not well. And I remember thinking like 162 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: in that moment, man, I will always always put them 163 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: first if they need me over the job. That is 164 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: like the number one thing that I want to be 165 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: lucky enough to be able to do. And so yeah, 166 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: she totally inspired me in that respect. So yeah, she 167 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: was awesome. The second one as a local icon, really 168 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: I think he's insane, and that's Andrew Thorburn. He was 169 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: like the CEO of Bank of New Zealand and then 170 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: he was the CEO of NAB and he he taught 171 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: me about hid hard and guts right and he is 172 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: like a heart leader through and through and he would 173 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: say things that you don't make other people wrong to 174 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: make you right and like it really puts you back 175 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: in your seat when you hear those types of things. 176 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: And I think he also too, just funny when I'm 177 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: speaking so quickly, he would say things like, Hey, you 178 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: got to take the time to just breathe. And it's 179 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: like breathing is like this powerful action that we should 180 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: all do more often that we just take for granted. 181 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: But man, so like simple things, there are very so 182 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: many impressive people out there that are Those two kind 183 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: of stick with me in a fundamental way. 184 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: Awesome, I love that and amazing you remember the key 185 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: messages that they left, Lee, Is there a failure or 186 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: setback that you've had in your career or personal life 187 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: that you can now look back on as really being 188 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: a turning point for your career? 189 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I missed out on some roles that I 190 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: totally thought I was like a showin' for. And yeah, 191 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: I've like cried in the shower a couple of times 192 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: in particular that I remember where I just thought that 193 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 3: was so my opportunity. How did I miss it? And 194 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: totally beat myself up on it. But I'm a genuine believer. 195 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: Like one door closes, another one opens, you just got 196 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 3: to keep pushing them open, and so I think that's 197 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: the piece. It's like failure really is the gift and 198 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: it hurts, but it's actually like the resilience that creates 199 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: the failure to become something. And so I think that 200 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: that kind of moment, like missing out on a job 201 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: that you really want and you just think, like, I 202 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: don't know if I can swear. It was like like seriously, 203 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: like how could you not put me in this job? 204 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: I'm so good? And then like you want to throw 205 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 3: your toys and then you realize, actually, no, like one 206 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: door closes, another one opens, Like let's go find the 207 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: door to push open. The other thing is too that 208 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: I learned through all of that is that it's the 209 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: people around you that make you win, right, And so 210 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: I think there is nothing more beautiful than having a 211 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: group of people that are with you and those failures 212 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: that you can kind of lean on because you're not 213 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: competing with them, you're working with them. And so I 214 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: think there are a couple of things that I've learned 215 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: from failure and. 216 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: Lee, what is one daily habit or ritual that you 217 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: just love to include in your day or that sets 218 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: you up for your day ahead. 219 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: I used to do arming person's four minute workout. I 220 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: used to find that pretty good. I don't know if 221 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: you've seen that online, but it's very good for you know, 222 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: moving your muscle. I think the thing that grounds me 223 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: for the day, and I mostly achieve it right, but 224 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: sometimes in your career you just can't because you are 225 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: just on. But I think if I like went back, 226 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: like the thing that I would do is just be 227 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: in nature, just like a twenty minute walk, just like 228 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: be in nature. And so every morning at the moment, 229 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: I feel like it's this giant luxury. I go for 230 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: walk at like five thirty in the morning. People will 231 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: say that's like crazy, but it's like five to end 232 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: of the morning, I have to go for a walk. 233 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 3: I can not start my day. I don't like to 234 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: start my day without just getting some fresh air. And 235 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 3: so I think that for me is just a moment 236 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: of perspective. And it's so easy to give away because 237 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: you're just busy, right, Like there's a million other things 238 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: I could be doing. I've also just tried to start. 239 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: When I look at my phone in the morning, I 240 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: look at it for like I give myself like three minutes. 241 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 3: It's like just a quick three minutes skim It's like nothing, 242 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: No one's going to die, right, put it away both 243 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: my walk for half an hour, and yeah, the world's 244 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: a been a place for the rest of the day. 245 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: I love that. The final question from us, if you 246 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: think about the best investment you've ever made, could be 247 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: in money, could be in time, or it could be 248 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: in energy. Is there something that comes to mind for you. 249 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: Oh, relationships, Like the best investment is relationships. I remember 250 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: very early on in my career someone saying I want 251 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: to be married for longer than I'm in this job, 252 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: and I remember thinking it's a bit of a weak comment. 253 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: And then of course you get into these big jobs 254 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: and you realize you never see you are my CA's husband, 255 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: and you just think, shit, yeah, that is just so 256 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: it's so critical, and I think, you know, don't lose 257 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 3: your friends because you're so busy at work. You make 258 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: work friends and they're really cool as well, Like I 259 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: used to love making work friends. But yeah, your friends 260 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: and your family especially like your relationship. I like you 261 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: were your closest relationship. I think you can't. You can't 262 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 3: the other best investments ever. And then obviously that flows 263 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: on to your kids when when you're at that stage two. 264 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: Love that it's interesting we often hear the key around 265 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: relationships for business leaders and making sure they make the 266 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: right investment in the right relationships as well. So awesome 267 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: to hear that. 268 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: Lee. 269 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time, It's been so 270 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: insightful and wish you all the best of the next 271 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: five years with Block. But we check in again and 272 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: we see how far you've comes with them. 273 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 3: No wicked and wishing you guys a little bit too. 274 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: This is fantastic. I'm super increased by what you're achieving. 275 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 2: Awesome. 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