WEBVTT - How to drink less (or not at all)

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it so hard to get real answers about

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<v Speaker 1>your health? If you've been told that everything looks fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know that something is off, we're not imagining it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I created Vitality three sixty to help you

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<v Speaker 1>better understand what's going on inside your body so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can take the targeted action needed. With a functional

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<v Speaker 1>health approach plus testing, we go beyond the guesswork to

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<v Speaker 1>uncover the root causes of your symptoms. I've teamed up

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<v Speaker 1>with doct Esmina, an incredible integrative GP, and together we

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<v Speaker 1>will help you decode your body's signals and answer questions

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<v Speaker 1>like why am I always exhausted? What's really causing my

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<v Speaker 1>stubborn weight? Am I inflamed? Insulin resistant? Or maybe missing

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<v Speaker 1>key nutrients? Because when you understand your body better, you

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<v Speaker 1>can transform your health. Visit v three sixty dot health

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<v Speaker 1>or check out the show notes for more. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>this week's mini motivation episode. These are shorter, more targeted

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<v Speaker 1>episodes where we tackle one challenge head on it in

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<v Speaker 1>a very practical way. So today we're diving into some

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<v Speaker 1>of the most effective strategies to help you drink less alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're looking to cut back for your health, your energy,

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<v Speaker 1>your sleep quality, or simply just because alcohol has become

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<v Speaker 1>more of a habit than a choice. Then this episode

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<v Speaker 1>is for you. Now, the goal with this episode it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't perfection. It's not about giving up alcohol forever. It's

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<v Speaker 1>more about understanding why we drink, what makes change easier,

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<v Speaker 1>and the small strategies that can make a surprisingly big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So I recently discussed these strategies with Susanna Myerson, who

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<v Speaker 1>is my sister in law and now is seven years sober. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what an achievement. Susanna is an executive producer based in

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney and now runs The Sober Curious Reset, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a four week guided online program for women questioning their

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with alcohol. So it's not about needing a label

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<v Speaker 1>or waiting until you've hit that qt am moment. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really more of a peer led space where women can

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<v Speaker 1>get honest, feel less alone, get curious and really explore

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on underneath. Because, as Susannah discovered, giving up

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol wasn't the end of her story, it was actually

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning. So here's what Susanna has to say about

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<v Speaker 1>top tips for drinking less so I've got a few

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<v Speaker 1>friends who have decided to give up alcohol for the month,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am going to as well. You've inspired me, sus.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just love some tips. Firstly, like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>your practical tips for actually giving up alcohol?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think two things that generally helped me. The

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<v Speaker 2>first is replace the ritual. So after dinner, what I

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<v Speaker 2>used to do is I'd jump in the bath, put

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<v Speaker 2>my PJS on and go straight to bit. Just get

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<v Speaker 2>just not yourn so even you know, just get your

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<v Speaker 2>head on the pillow, go watch a documentary or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, but remove the noise and the temptation before

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<v Speaker 2>it even has a chance to show up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that helped. And secondly, join something that gets you

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<v Speaker 2>out of your comfort zone, so a community run club,

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<v Speaker 2>a swim club, a polities class, and when you get

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<v Speaker 2>there actually talk to people, introduce yourself, tell your story,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to theirs. The connection you build, even with strangers

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<v Speaker 2>is more powerful than you think.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you got into the four forty club.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the four forty run Club. And actually it's

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<v Speaker 2>a ten year anniversary tomorrow, So I'll be going tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>at five am down to Bronte and running ten laps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like, if you've got to get up at

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<v Speaker 1>four forty in the morning, you are not wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be drinking the night before, I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>And that actually helped me my early sobriety days, knowing

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get up at that time on a

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday morning. I'm not going to go out on a

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to do a really hard, like two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half hour session on a Saturday morning, and so

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<v Speaker 1>my friends and I that used to do this, we

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<v Speaker 1>dubbed Friday tidy Friday, and we'd say, we don't commit,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to have a tidy Friday because we can't

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<v Speaker 1>turn up hungover to our hard workout on a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that idea. So it's like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if we are going to stop for the month, is

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<v Speaker 1>there something we can do. When you're saying if it's

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<v Speaker 1>got some kind of a social element to it and

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<v Speaker 1>even connecting with strangers, why do you think that is

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<v Speaker 1>an important part.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it, because I just think connection and community is

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<v Speaker 2>so important. It definitely helped me so much in the

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<v Speaker 2>early days. It's so funny you say hello to a stranger,

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<v Speaker 2>you start chatting, even down at the four forty there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people down there that have quit drinking,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just start hearing their story and listening, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you tell yours. And then the next week you

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<v Speaker 2>see them down there again and you have a coffee

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and it's just like you don't feel alone

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<v Speaker 2>in what you're doing. Plus you've you being healthy, you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting out. It's movement, and I think, yeah, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>something around the community and the connection that really helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really love that. And you know, thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>the alternative like a massive sleep in walking around your house,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it's an empty house or whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>not feeling connected to the people in your house and

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<v Speaker 1>feeling a bit sorry for yourself and feeling a bit

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<v Speaker 1>sluggish versus you know, bouncing back at seven am with

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee in your hand and you've just, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>a different chalk and cheese the best feeling. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to circle back to the other tip you gave,

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<v Speaker 1>which was about essentially kind of changing the ritual around

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<v Speaker 1>and how powerful that is as well. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>I know, for me, one of my biggest issues has

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<v Speaker 1>been like sugar and desserts, and I've spoken quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit on this podcast about how hard it was for

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<v Speaker 1>me to give up that habit, and you're so right,

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<v Speaker 1>similar to your story about having your bath going straight

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<v Speaker 1>to bed, I had to change my whole nighttime ritual.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not sit on the couch because I would

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<v Speaker 1>have to I was so trained to sit on the

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<v Speaker 1>couch and eat that I needed to remove from that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard some people do things like, for example, a

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<v Speaker 1>different approach, which is, oh, yeah, you still get the

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<v Speaker 1>wine glass or the crystal you know, the lovely like

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<v Speaker 1>crystal glass, heavy glass that sits in the cabinet. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the men have the whiskey, and you still get those,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you create a mocktail or a non alcoholic

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<v Speaker 1>treat drink. What's your thoughts on that as a strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it just depends at what level you are.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be you know, a bit of a temptation.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's you know, it looks like you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>having an alcoholic drink, but it's whatever works. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what works for you, go for it. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, some people, because you are giving up alcohol,

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<v Speaker 2>you are still craving that sugar. So maybe it's having

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<v Speaker 2>a scoop of Yoshi ice cream instead, even though it's

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<v Speaker 2>still not one hundred percent healthy at least, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>replacing it with something and it's better than the alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess for those that are read sent to

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<v Speaker 1>give up alcohol because they're losing that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I look forward to at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>every day. Like that was my big argument about sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, are you serious, Like the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I really look forward to, You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>take that away from me. I guess your approach of well,

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<v Speaker 1>replace it with something you know that's also equally nourishing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you could argue as a nutritionist whether it

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<v Speaker 1>is or not, But like for me, that's why a

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<v Speaker 1>bath and bath salts and a candle and aromatherapy and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that suddenly became this nourishing replacement which worked

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<v Speaker 1>for me. So I love that idea of like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not just removing that one thing you look forward to,

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<v Speaker 1>You're actually trying to find an alternative that works for you. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>why is it so hard to get real answers about

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<v Speaker 1>your health? We've been told that everything looks fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know that something is off we're not imagining it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I created Vitality three sixty to help you

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<v Speaker 1>better understand what's going on inside your body so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can take the targeted action needed. With a functional

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<v Speaker 1>health approach plus testing, we go beyond the guesswork to

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<v Speaker 1>uncover the root causes of your symptoms. I've teamed up

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<v Speaker 1>with Doctasmina, an incredible integrative GP, and together we will

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<v Speaker 1>help you decode your body's signals and answer questions like

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<v Speaker 1>why am I always exhausted? What's really causing my stubborn weight?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I inflamed? Insulin resistant? Or maybe missing key nutrients?

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<v Speaker 1>Because when you understand your body better, you can transform

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<v Speaker 1>your health. Visit v three sixty dot health or check

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<v Speaker 1>out the show notes for more. In your Sober Curious program,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you go a whole lot deeper than simply

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<v Speaker 1>the habit of giving up alcohol. Can you give us

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<v Speaker 1>one example of how we might use this as an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to also go a little bit deeper and to

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, so most women come into the reset thinking it

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<v Speaker 2>is all about alcohol, but by week three we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>more deeply than that. So Week three is called radical honesty,

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<v Speaker 2>and the question that we sit with is who are

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<v Speaker 2>you underneath all the noise? Not who your kids need

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<v Speaker 2>to be, or who your partner needs you to be,

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<v Speaker 2>not who you are at work, not the mask you're wearing,

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<v Speaker 2>just you And when was the last time you asked

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<v Speaker 2>yourself that? And doing that work in a group with

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<v Speaker 2>the other women who are asking themselves the same question

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<v Speaker 2>is honestly one of the most powerful things I've witnessed.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something that happens in that room when you really

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<v Speaker 2>dig deep and answer that question yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really, really hard question. I don't know when

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<v Speaker 1>you asked that, and I was like, who am I.

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<v Speaker 2>All these masks you're wearing? Who are you underneath?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no fricking idea. I think I've forgotten.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I recommend that you sit down and you

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<v Speaker 2>journal that for some time and really think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>because I asked myself that on a retreat and Byron,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the question that was asked to me is

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<v Speaker 2>what is the mask you've been wearing and what has

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<v Speaker 2>it cost you? And that's when I realized that the

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<v Speaker 2>mask that I was wearing, that it cost me a

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<v Speaker 2>lot because the mask I was wearing when I was

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<v Speaker 2>drinking cost me everything. And then I realized the mask

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<v Speaker 2>I was wearing when I was sober cost me being fun,

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<v Speaker 2>cost me being sociable, And I realized who am I

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<v Speaker 2>without a mask? I'm Susannah and I do not need

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<v Speaker 2>to be defined by alcohol at all. And it's such

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<v Speaker 2>a powerful question.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that someone who is using alcohol is

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<v Speaker 1>either a coping mechanism or a way to numb some

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<v Speaker 1>of the pain in their life? Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>for those people alcohol has made it a lot harder

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<v Speaker 1>for them to answer that question of who am I

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<v Speaker 1>underneath all of this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, because that's where I was, you know, That's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>where I was. You know, I wasn't asking myself those

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<v Speaker 2>questions until I got sober. So that's why I'm asking

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<v Speaker 2>these questions in this group. Yeah, because it's it's so

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<v Speaker 2>powerful and so much comes out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of us that use alcohol as a way

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<v Speaker 1>to manage stress or to you know, numb some of

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<v Speaker 1>the pain that we might be feeling, it might seem

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<v Speaker 1>daunting to have that taken away. What are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the other tools that we can use for the month

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<v Speaker 1>to better manage our stress and our overwhelm. If we're

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<v Speaker 1>not reaching for that gin and tonic at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, what are we going to do to

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<v Speaker 1>just have that reset at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think there's so much available now, like more

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<v Speaker 2>than there used to be. You know, you've got bath houses,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got infrared sornets, you've got ice bas sound healing meditations,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do from the comfort of your own home.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's it's trying to find what regulates your

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<v Speaker 2>nervous system, not what numbs it. And honestly, if you

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<v Speaker 2>just do some research, you'll find some amazing things. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that differentiator between numbing versus regulating your nervous system,

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<v Speaker 1>like we need to learn how to better regulate our

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<v Speaker 1>nervous system. I love that. Yeah, oh my gosh, I

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<v Speaker 1>need that right now. Well, look, SU's finally. For a

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<v Speaker 1>woman listening who feels really daunted at the thought of

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<v Speaker 1>giving up alcohol for a whole month, what words of

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom would you have for her?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd reframe it completely. You're not taking away something from

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<v Speaker 2>your life. You're running an experiment. It's just thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>days and at the end of it, ask yourself, how's

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<v Speaker 2>my sleep, how's my energy, how's my relationships? And what's

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<v Speaker 2>actually changed? Because when you stop thinking about what you're

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<v Speaker 2>giving up and start getting curious about what you might gain,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing becomes less daunting and a lot more interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Sue's that's just so powerful. And look, I really

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<v Speaker 1>recommend it. If you're listening to this episode and you

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<v Speaker 1>are really on the fence and thinking about giving up

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol for a month, please do check out Susan's Sober

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<v Speaker 1>Curious four week online program because it just sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>it's the support and that we need, and also that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get so much more out of it

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<v Speaker 1>than just stopping alcohol for a month. Sus thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for having me meal Zi. I love you,

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<v Speaker 2>Love you.

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