1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: You're a people. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: Enjoy a couple of our best of twenty twenty four 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: and don't forget you can. You can follow us on 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: the Apple and Spotify. 5 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 3: Apps, Cayl and welcome mate. 6 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: And Well I heard about you when you were a 7 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: young fella. I was told Andrew. Someone told Andrew. Joey 8 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: in turn told me. He said, there's a young kid 9 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: who's coming through the grades, his ginger. 10 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: Apparently he's his unbelong kid. 11 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 4: He's the other the other. 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 5: Where's he from doing these days? 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: Brad Parker? 14 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: Sorry, hey, Scorpia, he's playing twenty twenty two, playing Game 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: three and the slater. You're a great fullback playing underneath 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: another great fullback. What did the Billy blow your way? 17 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 2: As far as leading into the game. 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a he's a pretty awesome coach. He's an 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 5: awesome person to start with, and I think that rubs 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 5: off on how he coaches. Yeah, his care, his knowledge 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 5: is under standing of the group in terms of his coaching. 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 5: For me, leading into the game just just fills you 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 5: with so much confidence and you can't change much in 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 5: a ten day camp or a week camp. So like 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 5: he just really puts emphasis and just go out there 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 5: and do what you do best. He obviously gives you 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 5: in terms of full back position, it gives you tips 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 5: and I'll still carry them with me now, things that 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 5: I if I hadn't spoken to him, I wouldn't know. 30 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 5: So I'm lucky in that sense. But in terms of 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 5: the mental side of it, it's yeah, he just fills 32 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 5: you with confidence. He gets the best out of here. 33 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 6: He is one of the great blokes PC. 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: He is a great bloke. He is. 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 5: He was to have him for the first what was 36 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 5: he three years? 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 4: Four years? 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 5: Like for me honestly, like in terms of footy, once 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 5: you step over that line, his his willingness to give 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 5: and teach and bring up younger people. You know, he 41 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 5: obviously trains hard. I don't know how he comes back 42 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 5: to preseason and still like wins things. 43 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: That he did every year. 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: Obviously he squeares the ledger. He has a good time 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: when he trains. 46 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 5: Ultimate competitive. 47 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: I reckon he was a competitive. 48 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: And the move to France has been so good for 49 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: him because I saw him when he got back with 50 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: his new partner and he just looked happy. 51 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 5: He looked happy. 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked he looked happy. He looked far less 53 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: scatter gun. He was like, really, you know, Chatty. 54 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 4: Do you need to go to friends. 55 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 6: You just spoke I want to go back for one second. 56 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 6: You just spoke about how your your nature, how you 57 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 6: don't really get phased by anything, and you said earlier 58 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 6: sometimes it gets you in trouble. I suppose not now, 59 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 6: because everybody at the Knights would know what you're like. 60 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 6: They understand it's just Kaylin. Those of your mates who 61 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 6: text you and you don't get back to him for 62 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 6: weeks on and it's not. Everybody understands he's one of 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 6: the worst person on his own ever. It's not personal. 64 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 6: It is just Kaylan. When you were younger, did coaches 65 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 6: or you know other older people, do they take that 66 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 6: as you just don't care? 67 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. I actually had a coach two 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 5: years ago and the Nights three years ago. Kicking coach 69 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: he said, he said, Oh, I just thought you didn't care, 70 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 5: like just the way that I am. I don't know 71 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 5: what it's like. I think a lot of people in 72 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 5: this game they worry about things, and I just don't worry, 73 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 5: Like I don't worry about anything, Like I'm not really 74 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 5: someone to worry about certain things. I just I do care. 75 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: I definitely care a lot about a lot of things 76 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 5: in terms of like the sport, myself, the team, but 77 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 5: I don't worry about things. Yeah, that's probably where people 78 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 5: maybe get a little bit mixed up, but definitely, like 79 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 5: I mean two years ago or three years ago, the 80 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 5: game was saying that I don't I'm not interested in that, 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 5: I don't love it, and you know he wants to 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: go elsewhere and all these sort of things like, yeah, 83 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 5: it does definitely gets me in trouble, but I've I 84 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 5: don't have to justify, you know, anything to anyone, you 85 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like, I know that if i'd 86 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 5: been within myself, I know I do everything right to 87 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 5: perform on the weekend, term of preparation and train hard. 88 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 5: So it took me a little while to learn all that. 89 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 5: Like when I was with Jack and twenty and twenty 90 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 5: one two year, you're a kid, like I was a 91 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: kid that was playing really good footing. 92 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: I think it probably caught. 93 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: Up on me a little bit. 94 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: Well, I saw you this year, I reckon Kaitlyn at 95 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: the back end of the season just passed. I think 96 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: you probably conquered for you, what was the most difficult thing, 97 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: and that is being the leader that. 98 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Everyone looks to like. 99 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: I saw a shift in you at the right at 100 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: the back end of last season, just the way you 101 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: addressed the team, the way the players look to you, 102 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: the responsibility that you took on. I could see the 103 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: disappointment at times. You know, I thought that your leadership 104 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: really come. 105 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: To the four at the back end cracket. Yeah, yeah, 106 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: I have your four year deal. Yeah, I think it 107 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: was five five years. 108 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, twenty and seventeen. You signed with the Knights while 109 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 6: you're still at the cows. First of all, why the Knights? 110 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 6: And second of all, how was the relationship with the 111 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 6: Cowboys after that decision? 112 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 5: It wasn't great. 113 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't great. 114 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I decided to go because I he was over 115 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 5: the game at this point. 116 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: I was. 117 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 5: I think I was eighteen when I signed, and I 118 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 5: wanted to be I debuted in twenty seventeen, six sixteen, 119 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. Look at this debut twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen, 120 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 5: and I think I played six games that next year 121 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 5: and I wanted to play Cup, but they didn't want 122 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 5: me to play Cup. I don't know if it was 123 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 5: because they didn't think I was ready or for what reason. 124 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 5: But so I was like, I was pretty over it. 125 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, well I might go to AFL. 126 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 5: And this is when I was really considering going to AFL. 127 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 3: The Brisbane Lines again they have second cracket. Yeah, yeah, 128 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: your four year deal yeah, I think it was five 129 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: five years. 130 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 131 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 5: So I was pretty committed, just because at this point 132 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 5: I was like, I'm over rugby league. I want to 133 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 5: go challenge myself somewhere else. And I backed myself. I know, 134 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 5: if I put the work in, I'll do something, you know. 135 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 5: So I was sort of over it and then met 136 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 5: with the Knights, just went down there. They rolled the 137 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: red carpet out beds, met bedz, he took us around, 138 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 5: played golf. Just sort of thought like, there's a challenge 139 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 5: in this in itself. 140 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: What was that? 141 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 6: What did you see the challenge? Did you like the 142 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 6: idea of such a young kid, as a teenager, having 143 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 6: I guess, the weight of the team on your shoulders. 144 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 6: Did you like that pressure because a lot of young 145 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 6: bugs don't like that pressure, But did you like that? 146 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 5: I think I was a bit naive and not arrogant, 147 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 5: but I didn't want to sit behind someone and learn. 148 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: I know, for myself. I learned best when I'm out 149 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: there doing it, and then I can sort of like afterwards, 150 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 5: I can look back and be like, oh, I didn't 151 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: do that well, instead of watching someone do it and 152 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 5: then me I'm not very good a learning that way. 153 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 5: So I was like, I'm going to go down there. 154 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: I want to play every game. That's my goal is 155 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 5: to play every game next year. And I didn't think 156 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 5: I was going to have the year that I had. 157 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: I didn't feel like I had any expectations. I kind 158 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 5: of just played and played freely. 159 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: We can leave that little bit in there. 160 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 6: Not you talk about real estate though. 161 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: My tips on. 162 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: Real estate, nah, they are good. Can't be tenant down 163 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: and can't welcome. 164 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 7: Brother like tips on real estate? Are you serious on 165 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 7: bloody on the beach up north here? I'm talking about 166 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 7: sixty seventy million before. 167 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 6: Don't surely change me, mate level sixteens from as. 168 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 7: A ruthless coach too, and he is there to win premiership. 169 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: When you talk about the great coaches of all time, 170 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: we go Bellamy, Bennett, Jack Gibson. 171 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: Now you've got to start talking about Ivan. 172 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 7: Well, I think that the thing with Ivan, it's just 173 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 7: about amount of time. Really, I think the reason why 174 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 7: he doesn't get put in the goats status is because 175 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 7: it's all happened so quickly. But what I think once 176 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 7: he's been coaching, like the ironic thing is a lot 177 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 7: of people forget and you'd know this better than anyone, 178 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 7: but Ivan was actually touted as the next big thing, 179 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 7: almost serral though esque at his early years at the 180 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 7: Warriors and so like people think that Ivan just almost big, 181 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 7: like suddenly became a great coach, But early in the 182 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 7: Warriors he actually first real He took the Warriors to 183 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 7: a Grand Final. 184 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: His early career as a coach. 185 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, he was like considered one of the like, this 186 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 7: guy's going to be incredible, had a few years where 187 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 7: I feel like he had to learn some probably hard lessons. 188 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 7: Watching how he coaches now compared to what he was 189 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 7: when I was under him, I reckon he's learned a 190 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 7: whole bunch. 191 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: So you're Wayne and you've got Ivan, right, are two 192 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: iconic coaches now For whatever reason, No matter how great 193 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: a coaches, people either have great experiences not so great experiences. 194 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: They love them. They think they're the gaunt or a 195 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: little bit the other way. Where did you sit firstly, 196 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: with Wayne, where do you see? Where do you see? 197 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: Not as far as other people projecting us, what about yourself. 198 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: As a young man. 199 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 7: I saw him as like incredible, you know, just just 200 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 7: amazing at understanding who I was as a person and 201 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 7: just appreciating me. I think a lot of young men 202 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 7: they just want to be appreciated for who they are. 203 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 7: Wayne was incredibly good at identifying what does this young 204 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 7: kid need to hear? You know, as you get older, 205 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 7: obviously you get older, you get a bit more experienced, 206 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 7: and you realize, yes, you know, he is an incredible 207 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 7: man manager. Yes he's an incredible coach, but he's a 208 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 7: ruthless coach too, and he is there to win premierships. 209 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 7: And when you're in, when you're underneath him, it feels 210 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 7: like a very real relationship. And look, I'm sure it 211 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 7: is to Wayne. I'm sure it is to Wayne. But 212 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 7: at the end of the day, he is a ruthless 213 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 7: coach that will do whatever to win a premiership and 214 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 7: that's his job. 215 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: That's his job. He's just really good at. 216 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 7: Packaging it in a way that young men don't feel that, 217 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 7: you know, a Monday show gets anywhere from like thousand 218 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 7: downloads every single Monday. 219 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 6: Podcast obviously then was there's nowhere near as big as 220 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 6: that is now, particularly in Australia, Like there's rugby league 221 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 6: podcasts everywhere now, but you were kind of the one 222 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 6: of the first ones there. And how long did it 223 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 6: take for you to then start making a bit of 224 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 6: money off the podcast? And then at what point was 225 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 6: it like a lot of people are listening. 226 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 7: To this, oh man, So it took I think it 227 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 7: took about two years to make a bit of money 228 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 7: off the podcast. But even then, like people like so 229 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 7: like so I had the podcast, I would put up 230 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 7: to the podcast and I wouldn't even think about it 231 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 7: because no one knew what a podcast was back then. 232 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 7: So I actually focused more on the clips that I 233 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 7: would put on my Facebook page, and they were just 234 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 7: like three to five minute clips of people telling the story. 235 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 7: And honestly, some of the early first couple of years, seriously, 236 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 7: you might get two or three hundred downloads, you know, 237 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 7: whereas now you're getting, like, you know, our Monday show 238 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 7: gets anywhere from like seventy to eighty thousand downloads every 239 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 7: single Monday. But yeah, that was for a few years. Honestly, 240 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 7: probably wasn't until like two thousands and. 241 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one. 242 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 7: We're really just the momentum just clicked into gear and 243 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 7: it you know pretty much it's like this like for 244 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 7: for so long, for like four or five years, and 245 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 7: then just borm it just and when they did the goosey, 246 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 7: you know, I would just carry on and be like, 247 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 7: oh the goosey. 248 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 6: You might not have seen it as much, Dad, but 249 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 6: like on social media, like Beek would be created. You 250 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 6: created a lot of like memes and trends, like he 251 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 6: actually come up with obviously Joey and like I said, oh, 252 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 6: you know, the cheese. But then that off season, after 253 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 6: the cheese we won the calm any just at any 254 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 6: point of the day, Bee would just post a picture 255 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 6: of cheese like these these funny ass pictures of him, 256 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 6: just go, I wonder what the cheese is doing right now? 257 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 6: Probably something hectic And that's where hectic cheese came from. Wow, 258 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 6: lot of different trends be just and the goosey, Like 259 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 6: you you turn the goosey into just what was the goosey? 260 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 7: So a goose step like David Campeazy like the like, 261 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 7: and we all knew what a goosey was when we 262 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 7: were playing me back in the day, me and Josh 263 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 7: Hoffman at the Broncos. We used to just do it 264 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 7: as a g up and we'd just be like, you know, 265 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 7: just do it funny as a goosey. 266 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: But it was just it was just normal. 267 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 7: No one talked about it, and then it wasn't until 268 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 7: I would So basically I started reacting to like players 269 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 7: highlights and like young guys coming through and when they 270 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 7: did the goosey, you know, I would just carry on 271 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 7: and be like, oh, the goosey. And then I just 272 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 7: caught and people because like I don't know, for some reason, 273 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 7: a lot of the community didn't have a name for it, 274 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 7: but it was always called the goose step. 275 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: I just caught it the goosey. 276 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: Campeasey was when it really came to promise. 277 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 278 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 7: So it was always called the goose step, and I 279 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 7: just caught it a goosey. And then it just exploded, 280 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 7: maybe even tens of thousands, but thousands of videos of 281 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 7: people filming themselves doing goosies and tagging bloke. 282 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 6: But think like think like the old Turbo video down 283 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 6: the cour so like people drunk on a night out 284 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 6: would just film themselves doing goosies in the pub and 285 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 6: then it like on a Saturday night, you're like bloken 286 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 6: a bar's feed, like their stories would just be thousands 287 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 6: of goosies goosies everywhere. 288 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: Firstly, congratulations on the podcast straight Talk. 289 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: Thanks mate, fantastic. 290 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 8: I'm enjoying it. 291 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: Who's the first person you you did? 292 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: Oh? 293 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 8: Fuck me? Yeah, let's we're on the show. 294 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: Cool. 295 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 8: I don't know, no idea. We've done like one hundred 296 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 8: episodes or something. Now I've done five hundred and fifty 297 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 8: episodes all up bore my shows. Sometimes I can't remember 298 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 8: who interviewed last week. You know that, no disrespect anybody, 299 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 8: especially if you're listening. I don't mean that. I mean 300 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 8: just maybe I'm too busy and I just I don't 301 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 8: hold transactions of mead. 302 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 6: Because you know, Dad's been on your one as well. 303 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I remember, remember, I remember he came on. I 304 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 8: do remember. He had a really tight T shirt and 305 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 8: that's what he always does, really tight. Seriously, he was 306 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 8: showing the guns off big time. 307 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Who's impressed to the most market? 308 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 8: Well, I had a girl that called Angela white porn stuff. 309 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 8: She was really impressive. 310 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, do you know of that. No, I've 311 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 6: watched her work very good. Actually I've watched someone porn up. Yeah, 312 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 6: I think it. 313 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: Was Red Tube. I'm pretty sure watch RedTube. Same thing. 314 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, pornut Bones, all those, you know, they're all 315 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 8: on by the same mob. Yeah, all most of them, 316 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 8: the same modes. I can't go through them X X 317 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 8: and X and X blah blah blah. 318 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: Seems like right across at Mark. 319 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 8: By the way, because because one of my straight talk interviews, 320 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 8: I had the guy who was the head of the 321 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 8: CEO and global CEO of the whole group on one 322 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 8: of my shows and he said, we own most of them. 323 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 8: So you think you watched something different x Hamster. They're 324 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 8: all the same mob. Not that I don't watch them, 325 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 8: but I have to tell you whenever, when I saw 326 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 8: the brief for Angela White, like I just look at 327 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 8: the brief pretty much when I'm sitting out the front 328 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 8: there in the coffee shop, and because I tried to 329 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 8: keep it like I don't want know too much about him, 330 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 8: but I just thought Angela White and she was on own. 331 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 8: He said, only fans, the world's largest in the top 332 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 8: one percent of only fans earners. She earns ten point 333 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 8: five million US a year in subscriptions on only fans. 334 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 8: So I thought I'd better just quickly have a look, 335 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 8: just google her, right, So I gurgled her and straight 336 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 8: in a porn hub and there it was, and it 337 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 8: was full on, far far and then I had to 338 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 8: go and sort of sit in front of her, like 339 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 8: and she's an imposing person, like a physically big girl, 340 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 8: big bosoms, like strong, good looking, beautifully groomed. And why 341 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 8: she impressed me, it wasn't because of any of that 342 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 8: is her professionalism. She turned up with a publicist, hairstylist, 343 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 8: a makeup artist, and everything she did was on cue, 344 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 8: was like interviewing Donald Trump. 345 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: Very deliberate, totally a full on business. 346 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 8: It's all of the business. And by the way, she's Australian, 347 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 8: she lives in la but she's as I said, Earli, 348 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 8: it's one of the most popular people porn stars in 349 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 8: the world today. 350 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 6: That's how that come about, she. 351 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 8: Was, it's in Australia for so a lot of my 352 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 8: guests come to us through publicity agents and public relations agents. 353 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 8: So she was in Australia to do a sex bow 354 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 8: in Melbourne, and she was the main staff for sex 355 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 8: Bo and Melbourne, and they contacted our production team and 356 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 8: asked would we interview her? So that's sort of we 357 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 8: get a lot of those from PR people because of 358 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 8: a big audience and a varied audience for straight talk. 359 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 8: Mostly this happens. Yeah, that's how she got on trying 360 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 8: to promote sex Bo. 361 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: Difficult interviews, mate, like what I mean, not necessarily difficult 362 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: as far as their personality, but like you know, for instance, 363 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: two that stand out for me. I did Elise Perry, 364 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: you know, champion female cricketer, best female cricket of all time, 365 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: and you know, as you know, we prepare an interview, 366 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: prepare for an hour and a half depending and she 367 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: was so unnervingly modest. 368 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: It was unbelievable. 369 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: And so you're looking down and you're going, Jesus, now 370 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: it's worth questions. Has only gone fifteen minutes. 371 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: It was, really it was. 372 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: And in time we started talking at superstitions and she's 373 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: sort of loosened up, but she was just I've never 374 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: met a champion who was just so incredibly modest. And 375 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: the other one was Lauren Jackson, the iconic basketballer, and 376 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: that was so difficult because the vast of her career 377 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: and her success. I remember I read her book and 378 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and I was literally having anxiety to 379 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: attacks think to myself, how am I going to condense 380 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: this into a one hour interview? 381 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 8: Well, but you're differently, Maddie. So I remember when I 382 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 8: interviewed you. One of the things a man does is 383 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 8: he's a man preparer, like big time, and he's probably 384 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 8: obsessive about it. Like you just said, he went and 385 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 8: read the book, et cetera. I just have a conversation. 386 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: I do it differently. 387 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 8: View that's my personality. But your personality is if you know. 388 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 8: I think if you know too much, it can be 389 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 8: a bit overwhelming because you've got everything sort of flowing 390 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 8: around in your brain. You think which where I'm going 391 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 8: to go with this? Whereas I just tend to have 392 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 8: a conversation. So in terms of so, for me, a 393 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 8: difficult interview is some an interview, whereas a dead patch 394 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 8: like it's flat or there's no energy, or probably worse 395 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 8: for me is when they say something that's sort of 396 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 8: grabs your toes on your heartstrings or is confronting it 397 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 8: is that sort of thing is always complex for me, 398 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 8: maybe because I'm not sure whether I should try to 399 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 8: show my audience empathy or and sympathy towards the individual, 400 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 8: or should I just move it along and just say okay, well, 401 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 8: the audience is not going to be interest that, Like 402 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 8: should I be like mister professional, like you know, Michael 403 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 8: Parkinson or something like that? And then so I have 404 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 8: a conflict. I get conflicted in my brain and it 405 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 8: takes me while to sort of sort my way through it. 406 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 8: Hopefully the audience is getting getting it too, you know, 407 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 8: like it's you know, you know, I'd love to have 408 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 8: I love We're talking about it before, but I'd like 409 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 8: to have the too clear as Ivan and Nathan in 410 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 8: the room the same time, Like just see them with 411 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 8: each other, how they interact as father and son. But 412 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 8: dig around a little bit like has he ever given 413 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 8: your backhander? 414 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 4: That type of stuff? 415 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 8: You know what I mean? Like, do you reckon you 416 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 8: were a better football than he was if he had 417 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 8: to and given If I said, I've you know, if 418 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 8: you hadn't been given a chance what he's had, have 419 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 8: the blokes around him? You never had that? 420 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: Ivan? 421 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 8: Would you do you reckon You've been as good a. 422 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: Football as it would be? 423 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: Interested both of them have what I describe as an 424 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: economy of words. 425 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 8: Well, he came on my show like and like, I mean, 426 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 8: I've known since he played for us, like, and he's 427 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 8: a good dude, like a really good bloke and very 428 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 8: very confident. But he's very smart. But you're right, he's 429 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 8: very economical economical. 430 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: Let's make you mentioned Donald Trump before and just remind 431 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: him talk about the Celebrity Apprentice through that whole thing 432 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: when he was he was the American bossy with the 433 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: Australian boss. Did you meet him? 434 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 9: Oh? 435 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's how I got in him. So yeah, I 436 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 8: met Trump a couple of times. He did originally before 437 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 8: his president, but originally because he owns the show. He 438 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 8: owns part of the show, so it was sort of 439 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 8: like his invention. I think it gets twenty percent of 440 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 8: all the rawties money he's had get made for. It's 441 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 8: in twenty five countries. It was in those days. And 442 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 8: Trump invited me to America to come and sort of 443 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 8: see how the King does it. And I remember this 444 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 8: is like two thousand and two thousand and nine. He said, 445 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 8: look it came to me through emails. Come on over, 446 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 8: you know, like this this stage already agreed to do it, 447 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 8: and I got me into it, our mate. It's it 448 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 8: was fair because he was at Freemant. 449 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: All those days and his brother. 450 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 8: And and I said to Trump, I don't really want 451 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 8: to come over to America. He goes, well, he said, 452 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 8: I'll send you business class digt and you can stay 453 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 8: in Trump Tower. Like whoa, I said, mate, I go 454 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 8: by my own first class tickets if I want to come, 455 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 8: and I won't be staying Trump Dow And he wasn't happy. 456 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 8: He wasn't happy at all. But I met him when 457 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 8: he come to Australia. He came here for an I 458 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 8: think he's going to talk something, and I was. They 459 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 8: told me, the pr people told me, look, whatever you 460 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 8: do when he walks out of it. We did the 461 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 8: interview for Channel nine actually at the Four Seasons in 462 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 8: those days on the club level or whatever it was, 463 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 8: and he said, when he comes through, don't say hello Donald. 464 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 8: You got to call it miss Trump. You got to 465 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 8: shake his hand and whatever happens, don't saying about his hair. 466 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 8: So like he came down with entourage and security wasn't 467 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 8: the cameras are violin all sort of stuff. Will stands with 468 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 8: the suit on and he came looked exactly like he 469 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 8: does today. You know, a solid tie, satin material. I 470 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 8: think it might have been a lot of a crimsony 471 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 8: pink thing and a long suit and tie was too long, 472 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 8: exactly saying he's amazing. He never changed his brand. And 473 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 8: as he walked up in the cameras and I said, good. 474 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: A Donald, he died. 475 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 8: Yeah right, And then but I didn't say about his hair. 476 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 8: And but a maid of mine, two mates of mine, 477 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 8: see before he came to Australia, he asked me or 478 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 8: through his people, could he get a game of golf 479 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 8: in the Australian Golf Club. And I was a member 480 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 8: of the golf club, so I got my mates to 481 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 8: get him a game too. Of mates taking around the 482 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 8: golf course that morning, and they sent me a photo 483 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 8: they got of course, are going to get a photo 484 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 8: of Donald Trump, these two guys, and they sent me 485 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 8: the photo of them stand between Donald Trump outside Donald Trump, 486 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 8: and the photograph, of course is very windy. And at 487 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 8: the end of the filming the whole show, and then 488 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 8: it was stopped, when the cameras are off, I said, 489 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 8: I have was golf this morning. I was great, thanks 490 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 8: very much, you know, like, you know, he relaxed a 491 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 8: little bit. I say, my mate sent me your photo and. 492 00:21:54,040 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: I pulled there. But it was a good human bout it. 493 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 3: You say, you got me, you got me. 494 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: I hate Southerly's so you fans out like the ball jokes, Coop. 495 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 6: It's funny because it's true. 496 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: Now we got Maddie Abel on today and then we 497 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: did the final window together, which was was a good, 498 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: great experience. 499 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 4: Great fun. 500 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 6: How was how's Dad's acting? Was that your first? How's 501 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 6: Dad's acting? 502 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: In that? He's fantastic in it? Like he was really 503 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 4: really good. Look, we didn't know what we were doing, 504 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 4: to be honest, like. 505 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: We were like you doing this podcast. 506 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: I've never been on set before. 507 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 10: I just remember getting there the first day and there 508 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 10: were all these tracks laid for the dolly and the camera. 509 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 10: I had no clue what I was doing, and I 510 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 10: just kept putting it out of my mind, just saying, 511 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 10: just just. 512 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 4: Move forward, just do it. 513 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 10: It'll be okay, because if I thought too hard about it, 514 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 10: you know, there's a real chance I get overwhelmed. I'd 515 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 10: never acted in anything, I had done nothing. I didn't 516 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 10: I honestly didn't know. 517 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 6: What that was Your first role as well. 518 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it Me and John Zy were the leads 519 00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: in it, and. 520 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: A second before blind leading the naked. 521 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, we had all we had a boardroom full of 522 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 10: We had Tommy Rodonicus there, we had Max Crillage, we 523 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 10: had Terry Randall, we had who else was there? Phil 524 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 10: Sigsworth was there. We had all these old legends that 525 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 10: sort of put the hend up for nothing, and they 526 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 10: came in and I've done a lot of worse work, 527 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 10: believe What. 528 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: About what about the boardroom scene? 529 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 2: So it's the boardroom of the New Town Club, right, 530 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 2: and Tommy is both one of the board members. So 531 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 2: Tommy's line was to say something along the lines of 532 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: I'm sitting there as the coach and we're discussing names 533 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: as future and it was his lot. Tommy's lines were, 534 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: come on, Jack, you've got to be a kidd And 535 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 2: the blokes had his time, you know that. That was 536 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: it when they said, Tommy, put your own spin on it, right, 537 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: And you've got all the creatives there, you know, I 538 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: don't know anything regular who Tommy was. So we agat 539 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: there and I go, well, I pushed back and go, oh, maybe, well, 540 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. And Tommy goes, is it 541 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: my line? 542 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 543 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: And he goes right out, off Jack, you're talking about 544 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 3: say a bloodcard play. They've got to him off just 545 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: sincere and they go maybe just pull back slightly on 546 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 3: the swearing. 547 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: Tommy goes, oh, yeah, yeah, mate, no worries. 548 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: Okay, will I do it again? 549 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: You do it again? 550 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 2: Tommy Off? 551 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: Jack Off. 552 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 6: What about some of the other characters you guys did together, 553 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 6: Tim and Tom You guys had Tim and Tom together. 554 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 4: Tim and tom My. Kids still think it's some of 555 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 4: the best. 556 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: Everyone loves still. 557 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 10: I when we did that. That was in twenty ten. 558 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 10: There was a Penrith were playing in a semi final 559 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 10: that year at Penwouth Park. There must have been fifty 560 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 10: guys dressed as Tim and. 561 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: But you couldn't do Tim and Tom. 562 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: The probably couldn't know. 563 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: But the other one we. 564 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 10: Did was was GBH Security. 565 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 6: That was that was my favorite. Gil Nagasaki and Derek Ponceford, 566 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 6: wasn't it. They were the two that were probably my 567 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 6: favorite characters. 568 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: You guys got a guy he's been playing up at 569 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: the football. He's very intoxicated and he's got a little 570 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: bit of system g chrain. We should all of that. 571 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll delete all of it. Aaron Woods, welcome into 572 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: the studio today. 573 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 6: Another member of the retirees Club. He is a terrific block, 574 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 6: an excellent coach to Rosie, He's going to do some 575 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 6: good things at PARAMOUNTA extit him as assistant at Melbourne. 576 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he was such a good bloe. 577 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 6: The assistants, they probably don't wear any of the pressure, 578 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 6: so they're always the boy's best friends. But Rosey could 579 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 6: just understand when the boys needed a lift. You know, 580 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 6: you go in there in video sessions and rather than 581 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 6: putting tape up, he just put funny videos that he'd 582 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 6: watched over the weekend up. 583 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: So the opposite of what shaved I think he would do. 584 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, completely. 585 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: I thought he was funny and it wasn't. 586 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: And nobody would laugh. 587 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 588 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 6: At Manly Flann I would always think, how good is 589 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 6: this stitch up video going to be? And he'd like, right, o, boys, 590 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 6: I've got here's a video of Aaron Woods. 591 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Sharon Woods. 592 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 6: And he puts that up that he thought was really 593 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 6: funny and no one would laugh. 594 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: Be like, do you remember that day? 595 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 11: When I give it to him, he was like into me, 596 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 11: like he kept saving your careers and just kept having me. 597 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 11: The one day on the video, he's like, look, can 598 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 11: you get a quick playable old you know what I mean? 599 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 11: I said, don't take you, don't take your frustration now me. 600 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 11: It's not my fault. Ben Hunt doesn't want to play for. 601 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: You, and he was filthy, hasn't that? 602 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: I mean, look, you know divorce can be tough, but 603 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: Jesus dragged it that for a couple of years. 604 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: Hey, Gardi, you don't think I'm tough enough. 605 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 11: Brother, He's one tough hombre. He gives you, doesn't cop 606 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 11: a lot of that, doesn't get much mention. 607 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: His Brice kibs. Yeah, he used to pull bokes. 608 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 11: He was like, even if you haven't a beer, he 609 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 11: was the one you go to if there's any drama 610 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 11: or he like, you know, he's the one that. 611 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 3: Danny damm Man, He yeah. 612 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: I've heard the stories. You should see what he used 613 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: to do in the chair. 614 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: He did something on. 615 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 2: The show's put a nail through his hand and like 616 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: we couldn't show it because it was so graphic. Just 617 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: went bang, put a nail through his hand and then 618 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: got like a door and was like smashing his head 619 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: through the door, like, mate, it's pretty hard core. He goes, no, 620 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 2: that's nothing, Maddie. He goes right out, Let's hire a 621 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: fishing trailer, right, go out there, just throw Burley out, 622 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: get get a couple of sharks of it, and goes, mate, 623 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: I'll jump on him. I was like, gives you, I 624 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: just don't. 625 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 11: Have you heard the story about Bryce cart Right John 626 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 11: Cartright and gives you, no, he didn't get picked for 627 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 11: City City Country. And so where where at this place 628 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 11: at Epping called the Tracks. Pharaoh is in city camp 629 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 11: and reaches out and just said, look, Cartwright said, you're 630 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 11: not tough enough. 631 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, I fara made it up or not. 632 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm a kid. I'm a kid at this stage. I'm 633 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: a kid this stage. So the next thing, you know, 634 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: we go back to I think come in. 635 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 11: I think it might have been Benji Maltz's place in 636 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 11: in Breakfast Point and we're just having to beer. The 637 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 11: next see that Gibsie comes out with a plank of wood, 638 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 11: a nail and a hammer. 639 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: And mind you, we've been on the piece for quite 640 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: a while. This is a bye weekend. 641 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 11: This is the old one where it'd be like the 642 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 11: City Country in Australia, so you have the weekend off. 643 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 644 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 11: He goes to undo his belt and pull his pants 645 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 11: down and then gets the piece of wood. He might 646 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 11: put what you'd say, something up against the wood down below. 647 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 3: So he puts his old fellows. 648 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 11: And then gets the nail and he goes, hey, GARDI, 649 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 11: you don't think I'm tough enough, brother. 650 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: He's one tough hombre. He gives you. 651 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: That's that gives you. Look if you're listening or you're 652 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: watching this one. 653 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: He's one of my favorites. Gives you. I love him, 654 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: gives you. 655 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: I just think there's probably better ways, healthy ways to 656 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: show that you're tough. 657 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: Brockman. 658 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 6: I like my favorite ever State of Origin moment involves 659 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 6: you would. Twenty sixteen, Michael Jennings scores an infamous try. 660 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 6: Now the great it can only be described as the 661 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 6: great just football try celebration of all time. 662 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 11: Whatever one forgets is Darius boys So we're winning that 663 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 11: whole game, and Darius Boyd scores in like the seventy 664 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 11: eighth minute to put them in front, and we would 665 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 11: have got beat three and Noel. That was Gur's last 666 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 11: ever Origin game, and we got the ball back you know, 667 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 11: we pass it out the back. 668 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: Virgo makes a break and then he. 669 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 11: Gets I think Tesco gets tackled, probably a meter out 670 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 11: from Cooper Kronk that's come from the other side of 671 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 11: the field. What a chase like what a player typical 672 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 11: Queens then stuff. Then we shift and then Gou gets 673 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 11: the boars like of anyone in the tea to get 674 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 11: the ball on a shift. 675 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: Na Tron Barnes in the flute section and they were like, 676 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: just pass it. 677 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: Gow. 678 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 11: He finds Jennings and just scoops back under scores and 679 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 11: it's like maybe we've done a Queens and the queens Land. 680 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 11: So we've all just come flying in and I've thought like, yeah, 681 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 11: I was so happy with Jenkin. I've gone to jump 682 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 11: up bloody Josh Mantel pushes him in just a little 683 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 11: bit and I miss it and then I sort of 684 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 11: roll over like nothing happened. I get up and like yeah, 685 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 11: like in front of the reft, like give it a try. 686 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think no one's. 687 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 3: For a real treat today. 688 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: As I said before, we've got to Natty Wood and 689 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: Garth would man, they've lived lived a life. Those two 690 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: were youtubelokes brothers, best mates, all the above. 691 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 4: All the above above. 692 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, how you been you? I'm good. 693 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 12: I'm working now. 694 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: I've got a good job. 695 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 12: I'm putting in the hours, but I'm in the tunnels 696 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 12: at the moment, which is pretty good. I've been there 697 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 12: for three weeks at night, night shift, night shift. So 698 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 12: what Missus said, I looked at terrible the other day. 699 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 12: So if I look, it's only because I haven't had 700 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 12: a bend u. 701 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: And now I know you wouldn't mind be saying you 702 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: had a stint in the silver Water Hotel two days 703 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: for you, Nady was that that must have been tough 704 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: for you and the family. 705 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 13: It was tough for mum and dad. It was a 706 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 13: worry for me because I know how hot headed Garf 707 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 13: can be, and most of our mates that we grew 708 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 13: up with have done jail worse. 709 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 6: So we're could you go and visit pretty regularly. 710 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 12: Weekends only week on the Wednesday, I think it's an 711 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 12: hour and half two hours max if you're lucky, Yeah, okay, 712 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 12: if you're super max or whatever. 713 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: But I was. 714 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 12: They rolled out the red carpet for me. I all 715 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 12: started a park Leake did a month there, then I 716 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 12: went to CES did a month there, and then Long 717 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 12: Bay for a month. But visitation was pretty good for me. 718 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 12: I was in the max, but I wasn't at a 719 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 12: risk of any sort. 720 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: So I got the like we've all got an image 721 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: of what Jarl's like. Was it I'm trying to get 722 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: the right term he gas. 723 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 9: Was it as expected? Was it easier? Was it tougher? 724 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 8: Made? 725 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 12: The isolation is what bent me over at the start. 726 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 12: Given I did what I did, and then within very 727 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 12: enough days I'm on a truck out the park league. 728 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 12: But because we grew up and mates of ours had 729 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 12: been in and friends of the family had been in, 730 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 12: I and we went visiting that because that when I 731 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 12: had his first two kids to Jamie's needs Smith. So 732 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 12: I always thought Joe was like a hard man, straight 733 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 12: up and down, take me on this and that what 734 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 12: I found quick smart, it was like a mental asylum 735 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 12: and a lot of drug addiction. You know, I a 736 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 12: lot with my upbringing and especially getting used to that. 737 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 12: Me and that shared a rumors kids, and I've learned 738 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 12: quick smart about being the big spoon, that the little 739 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 12: spoon when you start spooning. And so I made sure 740 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 12: I knew what I was doing when I got in there. No, 741 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 12: there all serious things that I feel for a lot 742 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 12: of them. There's no more ratouses and sorry to say that, 743 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 12: but mental wards, I think they all just chuck them 744 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 12: inside these days. So you're also dealing with someone that's 745 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 12: got five different personalities or someone it's a lot like 746 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 12: high school, but on steroids, men and ten times worth, 747 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 12: a lot of ego, a lot of bravado, and they're 748 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 12: just little things. That doesn't really worry me. It's all 749 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 12: about what are you looking at this? And so you 750 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 12: got to be on your game. But I was lucky enough. 751 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 12: I just I took it like it was a preparation 752 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 12: for a fight, and I didn't know when I was 753 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 12: getting out. I've never heard of before. The system's pretty weak, 754 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 12: if you ask me. I've never been in trouble before. 755 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 12: But I went pretty pretty heavy on the blake that 756 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 12: touched my missus. Fucked him up more or less, but 757 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 12: he deserved it, and I got five months bail off 758 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 12: for four four and a half months, no bail, never 759 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 12: heard of before. But I just took it like it 760 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 12: was a fight, preparation. Stayed fit because forty five years 761 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 12: old at that age in jail. It's a young man's jail. 762 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 12: I was a bit on the piss at the time 763 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 12: and a bit overweight, so I'm forever doing burbies and 764 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 12: push ups and bit of jogging and just I remember 765 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 12: just floating away, like when I finally got to have 766 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 12: my own cell by myself, remember training as a kid 767 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 12: of Johnny Lewis. You just got to take yourself and 768 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 12: you know, this is the main main tool in the 769 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 12: house if you use correctly. Like when I say isolation, 770 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 12: I a ben. You aven into the hardest time of 771 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 12: your life. You just got to make the most of it. 772 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 12: I just would float away a bit and take myself 773 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 12: back to the gym with Johnny Lewis as a kid 774 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 12: and go on, We're not even a fuck spiders, let's go. 775 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 12: And you just to have to float away. It's a 776 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 12: ship hoole in there, the food ship. You don't know 777 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 12: who's coming to tap you on the shoulder, because if 778 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 12: someone's recognized me who I am, I think you should 779 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 12: have some money. He went to set him up and 780 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 12: wants some money and protection. Nothing happened, thank fuck, because 781 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 12: I don't know what I would have done. I would 782 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 12: have obviously I'll shoot myself the start, just because that's 783 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 12: what naturally happens. But the whole thing was about my 784 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 12: dad kept saying to me mate that you touched on It said, 785 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 12: what fucking don't touch on? You know what I'm doing 786 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 12: dealing within here? So if I do touch and when 787 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 12: I go too far, and then you need for another 788 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 12: twelve or two months training. 789 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 6: Talking about exercise, are you on your own in there? 790 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 12: You start, you start off with someone and then if 791 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 12: you behave yourself more lesson and you rub shoulders with 792 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 12: the screws and say, listen, I'm not I'm not a risk, 793 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 12: I'm not a friend to anyone. Can I get my 794 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 12: own room? So I finally got my own room after 795 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 12: two and a half weeks or something, and then it 796 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 12: was the best thing in the world because I could 797 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 12: train and do my own ship, hang and hang my 798 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 12: own posters up in the wall. Yeah, but you know, 799 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 12: I just because I'm pretty much everything's got to be set. 800 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 12: How I want to clean up what that down? 801 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 13: This and that. 802 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 12: Where you with a couple of blokes. I was in 803 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 12: there at the start, a bit messy, and you've gotta 804 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 12: have a ship. They have a ship at three oclock 805 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 12: in the morning, I'm screaming, mate, Cursey flush fucking So 806 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 12: it was great to be by myself, but yeah, Jo 807 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 12: was the isolation thing at the same time, my daughters, 808 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 12: my girlfriend, the young bloat, mum and Dad especially. I'm 809 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 12: sure I aged me. Dad a fair a bit with 810 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 12: worry because he knows exactly what we're what we're about, 811 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 12: what the beast is like inside of us. Won't take 812 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 12: a backward step. But we never went looking for trouble 813 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 12: as kids. That would always get the back of end 814 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 12: of Dad if you found out you had been a 815 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 12: bully or picking on someone. So that's never been in 816 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 12: our game. Wouldn't take much for us to go on 817 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 12: with it. 818 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 9: Mate, talking about your old man, what the legend he's own? Right, Yeah, 819 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 9: your dad. It's such a grave. It's funny. Someone was 820 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 9: the other day. I asked you Barry would, I said, yeah, yeah, 821 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 9: Barry would. 822 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: And they are actually talking about, you know, to be 823 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: African American bloke who sits on the bed. 824 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 6: That he's he's just a meme. Now that guy he's 825 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 6: passed away. 826 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 12: Actually that yeah, fat. 827 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: Like your old great football played new Town North and South. 828 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 2: But we'll talk about boxing. Later but great great mates 829 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: for John Single. But Kerry Packer, now he was Kerry 830 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 2: Packer's what was it? A good mate, trainer, security, all the. 831 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 4: Above, minder. 832 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 13: The good thing was with with dadd He can keep 833 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 13: a secret and he can he can converse with with anybody. 834 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 13: It's really clever bloke he is. It was good for 835 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 13: and like you go away with Kerry you wouldn't see 836 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 13: him for six months of the year because he going 837 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 13: from here to there Barcelona, and but he just ringing 838 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 13: up and go there. You're going there all right, and 839 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 13: you go what's your what's your what's your furniture? Like, 840 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 13: what's your well spoken from fantastic and ship well going 841 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 13: by yourself with lounge and t the and a fridge 842 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 13: and then go what happened? He goes, Oh, Kerry, give 843 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 13: us there's four blokes traveling. Kerry give us fifty thousand 844 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 13: dollars chip each. And he was in the high role 845 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 13: as he said, going I'll turn it into something. He 846 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 13: goes and we went down and and we're partnering and 847 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 13: you'd probably know a couple of boths he went with. 848 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 13: And then Kerry had come down, Okay, what he has 849 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 13: got and say that got one hundred and eighty green left. 850 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 13: You just get it all and gone turn into much 851 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 13: for a go ahead there you go. So sometimes that 852 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 13: one time they'd come back from being away and bought 853 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 13: a house Sydney. He brought a house in New down 854 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 13: cash Jesus. So that's one of the like that Dad's 855 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 13: got a million stories that he doesn't release many, but 856 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 13: he's released a few of us. 857 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 9: You push that closer than that, he's released. 858 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 13: A few to us. But so like that had come 859 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 13: back and give you an envelope full of cash because 860 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 13: he'd been at the casino. 861 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 6: Kerry Kerry then, because I've heard a lot of these 862 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 6: gambling stories before and I just assumed because he's got 863 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 6: a lot of money, he's just out there gambling. So 864 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 6: he's an extremely smart punter. Then is that how your 865 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 6: dad probably described him? 866 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 13: I don't know what. Ye look, there's not there's not 867 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 13: many real good punters. Yeah, there's there's a few stories. 868 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 13: And I don't want to get myself out of the willie. 869 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 13: If the one story they were going somewhere in England 870 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 13: I think it might have been, and they were driving 871 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 13: down this road and Kerry it was like three o'clock 872 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 13: in the morning. Kerry wanted somebody eat, and he pulled 873 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 13: over this old pub, got me daddy to bang on 874 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 13: the door. Blake as the door said off, it's fucking 875 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 13: three in the morning. That's like okay, and go back 876 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 13: in the limbo. The next pub, Dad banged on the door. 877 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 13: Publican comes in. It is blah blah blah. Because that 878 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 13: case sweet opens up cooks and my mirle looked after him, 879 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 13: and Kerry give him fifty grand or something. So go 880 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 13: back and tell that fucker something. So that sort of stuff. 881 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 13: And he used to give chicks five thousand tip forgetting 882 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 13: a pack of cigarettes while I was playing, and stuff that. 883 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 2: John Daily came out recently told a story. He said 884 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 2: that he was because I mean. 885 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 12: Your dad was there for that one. 886 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, adds all right mate, Yeah, John 887 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 9: Daily coops. He said. 888 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: He said I was gambling at in Vegas. He said, 889 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 2: Kerry Packer, famous Australian. Anyway, he said he lost eate 890 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 2: me and and and he said to the and he said, 891 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 2: made I'll fix up. Don't worry, I'll fix up tomorrow. 892 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: And he said, no, no, you get it now. Kerry's 893 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 2: like fucker so he's gone away anyway, he's got got 894 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 2: ten men give you mate, and said, funk, I'll have 895 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 2: a go anyway. End up that the extra to me 896 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 2: and turned into like fifty million, and the Blake said 897 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 2: I will fix up tomorrow and Kerry said get it now. 898 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 2: And the famous one, Yeah, the flipping with the Texan 899 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: you're on on whether. Yeah, the guy was big note 900 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: himself in the high rollers and car. He goes, oh, 901 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: he actually worth a bit of money and actually may have. 902 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 9: Got this that. He goes right off, I'll Tosha for 903 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 9: it head or tails well for everything. 904 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 905 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, your old man, I remember once and again. I'm 906 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: not going to your old man tell me once that 907 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 2: he said that. Your old man said that he used 908 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: to have to wear Barry used to wear a bodysuit 909 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 2: filled with cash. So when they were coming back through 910 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: the States, they go through Argentina and he played the 911 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 2: best pilo players in the world cash that command played Alastair. 912 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 13: He told me his story. So they went somewhere and 913 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 13: he says to Daddy out hold that and you give 914 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 13: him like a cachet bag full of cash. Was a 915 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 13: million dollars US in it. And they went to Erry 916 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 13: punted his arse. I think he did thirty mil or 917 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 13: something in three days. He was just in the high 918 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 13: rollers and Dad went to his room and said he 919 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 13: was just right out in the rue balls, just hanging. 920 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 13: Dad walked in. Dad's got the million dollars in the 921 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 13: dag and goes carry and he goes, what goes you 922 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 13: want me to do with this? He goes, what the 923 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 13: fuck is? It goes, it's the mean, it's a meaning, 924 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 13: cash you give me, and he went give it here. 925 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 13: He just poured it all over and don't forget. 926 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: You can. 927 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: You can follow us on the Apple and Spotify apps