1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: On scoring Needs Australia. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: This is the Weader Penalty Show. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panny Show. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 4: Coming up tonight you look at the fallout from the 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 4: extraordinary Zelenski outburst. Josh Hammer will bring up some notch 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 4: of sober analysis instead of some of the hyperbolean propaganda 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 4: we've seen over the weekend. Gary Hartgrave will have the 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 4: day's at top stories, including some whole numbers from the 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 4: Prime minists that are going to cause concern. Elon Musk's 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 4: the fourteenth Baby with yet another woman. Kinsey Skofield will 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 4: have the latest and left. 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: He's Losing It features more than one deranged Democrat. 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 5: Can't sleep at night because it's beached well, body can't 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 5: allowed the circulation. But I think we should revisit the 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 5: possibility of a siphlus diagnosis. 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: And talking about lefties losing it. 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: Will have Peter Garrett's ugly attack against gena. 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: Ryan Hart shortly will be. 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: Getting into that, but first A video has emerged on 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: social media appearing to show two young Australian children, they 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: certainly seem to have Australian accents telling a Jewish influencer 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: in an online video that Hitler should have killed you guys. 23 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: Now. 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: This is the same Jewish influencer who exposed the two 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: New South Wales nurses who were subsequently removed from their 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 4: positions Palestine. 27 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 5: Palestine bro only if Hitler killed you guys. 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Kid alongo there, don't say these words. Google max vifer 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: before you skip me m A X space v E 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: hi f e R Google max vifer, max viper max 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: vifer Australia. 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: Oh that's you. 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: We fight anti Semitism on here. You can't say these 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: things him and. 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 6: Educate these younger kids from the very young age. 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: That little kid said, if only Hitler had killed you guys. 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: Just shocking stuff. Joining me now for more on this. 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 4: As Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave, Gary, the influencer there 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: seemed to make those kids away fairly quickly who he 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: was that they can't say that, and they appear to 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: have googled him and then cut the chat short. But 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: it doesn't change the fact that you've got young kids 43 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: sharing that sort of retric online and it makes you 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: despair for what they're hearing in their homes, in their 45 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: schools and their communities, and how they've come to that position. 46 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: Exactly firstly, read a happy birthday to you. I hope 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: you enjoy the rest of it. Let me say that 48 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: seeing those kids mouthing those words just proves to me 49 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: just how indoctrination has taken over education in Australia. And 50 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: sadly there are hate preachers in our country. Now I'm 51 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: in Brisbane. We have a smaller and happier pond here 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: with some great preachers at various mosques, but you know, 53 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: in Sydney and in Melbourne, there just seems to be 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: this putrid hatred that's being flogged onto kids, and it's 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: awful to think these kids might think that this sort 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: of conduct is really acceptable and read of. The Other 57 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: thing I'd say, in a broader sense is that a 58 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: lot of people in the Christian community are forgotten that 59 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: we should be doing to others as we would have done, 60 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, to us, And so that golden rule thing 61 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: seems to have slipped the kind of moral spine that 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: should be and always was throughoutur country. So you know, 63 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: these kids should be called out. I'm glad we didn't 64 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: identify them, but their parents, their grandparents, their aunts, their uncles, 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: those influencing them really should hang their head in shame. 66 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: It shouldn't have come to this. 67 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 7: It's awful. 68 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: Now Victoria could be a blood bath for Labor in 69 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: the upcoming federal election with a fresh red Bridge pole 70 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: Room feeling that Labor has lost significant ground in five 71 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: marginal seats and three others across the state and that 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: Victoria is now the state where voters perceive the Liberal 73 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: Party most favorably doesn't turn up for the books. Across 74 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: the five Victorian seats tracked in this new pole, Labour's 75 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: two party preferred vote has shrunk from fifty one point 76 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 4: four percent in twenty twenty two to just forty three 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 4: percent at the moment, and if that forty three percent 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 4: was reflected across the state, Labour could also lose aston Chism, McEwen, 79 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: Bruce and Dunkly, and the Herald Sun's reporting that the 80 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 4: party has already written off seats like aston Chism and McEwen, 81 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 4: with their efforts to be focused on holding on to Bruce, 82 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: Dunky Hawk, Kranger might and hold Gary. It also seems 83 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: that the opposition leader and the Liberal Party are ahead 84 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: of Labor according to this pole when it comes to 85 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 4: key issues like cost of living, economic management, health and crime. 86 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 4: This is going to cause all sorts of concern for 87 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: the AOP. 88 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: If this poll is accurate and this is. 89 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: A labor aligned firm, then Anthony Albanize is in some 90 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: trouble in Victoria. 91 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he deserves to be. And the Peter Dunton's credit, 92 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: he has been working very very hard in getting to 93 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: meet as many people as possible. Not everyone as met him, 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: but everyone who does says, Wow, he's actually a really 95 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: nice bloke and I actually think he stands for stuff 96 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: and I actually can see him doing the job. But look, 97 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: the residual of those who aren't sure about him have 98 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: just got to realize that Albow ate up to the job. 99 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: And we're suffering economically, we're suffering as a society as 100 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: a nation, and national securities in peril, and everywhere you 101 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: turn you just know Elbow has just lost all momentum 102 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: as far as common sense and thinking about the values 103 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: that underpined our nation. So you know from Victorians they 104 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: desperately wanted a better liberal state parliamentary team. They've got 105 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: a better leader than I had, and I think that's 106 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: an impact as well. So I guess Rita it's a 107 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: case of film me once twice, three times, four times, 108 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: shame on you, but fully fifth or sixth. 109 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: Time, shame on me. 110 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: I think people are now having a close look and saying, 111 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: you know what, the other mother a hopeless This blow 112 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: can't be that bad. Let's give him a go. And 113 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing for Australia. Well knowne Victoria. 114 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 4: Well Anthon now Beneezi was out there during Marty Gral 115 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 4: Let's have a look at one way down. This has 116 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: really become a far left activist event masquerading as a 117 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 4: game lesbian pride parade. Albo was asked some fairly easy 118 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 4: question by questions by the ABC's Jeremy for Fernandez. 119 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 8: Who's on your queer party playlist when you leave the 120 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 8: parade a night? 121 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: Well, obviously Kylie, Obviously he's playing out at home Bush. 122 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: It's got to be some chance she'll. 123 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 9: Turn up here later on. 124 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: As we'll see, Marty gar has been hijacked by the 125 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: far left activist class. 126 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: Just watch this. 127 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: One, two, three, four kick the Liberals up the door. 128 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: But we don't need to because they already left. The 129 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: Liberals there, they left, so. 130 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 5: We're just here. They're not a community motive. 131 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: Previous agms because they were currently ing us on they. 132 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 10: Don't support her on coll they don't supportationwide. 133 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: They've been attacking us on purity blockers, and they've been 134 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: putting people in our community. 135 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: Intention oh dear. 136 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: And there was all sorts of other activism there. People 137 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 4: are saying that, you know, the police should be defunded. 138 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 4: They're pushing pro Palestinian positions, saying, you know, in the genocide, 139 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 4: you could never have a Pride rally in Gaza or 140 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: the West Bank Gary, but that point seems to be 141 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 4: lost on these activists. 142 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the trouble is it's the activist class that's 143 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: frankly driving labor out the door. Every day. Australians are 144 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: over this, I've got to tell you, they really are. 145 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: And look, they're entitled to their views and they're allowed 146 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: to express it because that's what freedom and a democracy allows. 147 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: And you know, if people want to be stupid, they're 148 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: allowed to be stupid. There's lots of ways to do it, 149 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, lots of social media stuff. But you know, 150 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: every day Australians aren't offended by somebody who happens to 151 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: be gay. And there's plenty of gay men and women 152 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: who just get about their lives. They're worried about paying 153 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: high electricity bills too. They're worried about all the same 154 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: things everybody else is. So I don't know why these 155 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: people assume they can hire a group of the community 156 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: out into a pilot say this is what they think. 157 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: They don't think that gay man will make their own 158 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: minds about stuff and indeeds, That's the way it should be. 159 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: It really should be. I mean, we've seen this attempt 160 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: to divide in the past on multiple lines, types of religion, 161 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: types of expression, whatever it might be. But if we're 162 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: all Australians and we all work together and we find 163 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: the things we're all angry about, I think that's where 164 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: the vote goes. And frankly, everybody's angry about the high 165 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: price of electricity, ruining our economy, ruining our family, ruining 166 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: our chance to buy and build things here because we 167 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: just can't afford it anymore. And whether you're gay or not, 168 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. That's just the reality that frankly unites us. 169 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: Now let's turn our attention to Australia's involvement in the 170 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 4: unfolding situation in Ukraine. Prime Minister Anthony Albineazi and made 171 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 4: it clear that Australia stands with Zelensky no matter what, 172 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 4: and the UK has responded with a new pro military campaign. 173 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: A Kistar May is pledging boots on the ground if needed. 174 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 11: The first priority of this government, of any government, is 175 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 11: the security and safety of the British people, to defend 176 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 11: the national interest, particularly in these volatile tyames. 177 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: What do you think Australia's ongoing support of Ukraine is 178 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 4: going to look like? Will we pledge boots on the 179 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: ground as well as kirs Darma has done or is 180 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: it going to be great of funding? 181 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: What do you think that support is going to me? 182 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: No one's supporting Putin, but no one wants to have 183 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: him so upset that he won't actually negotiate a peace, 184 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: and no one wants to give away Ukraine to get 185 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: that piece either, and that's certainly been the stand of 186 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Look, the simple reality is Rita that Europe 187 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: has been waiting for America an intervene on everything. And 188 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: the worry now is that if the NATO Pact is 189 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: fully followed, an attack on one means an attack on 190 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: them all, and under the US alignment with NATO, they'll 191 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: have to go on the ground. I don't think that 192 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: sounds very good to me. I'm all for peace. I 193 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: don't want people to be slaughtered. I don't want there 194 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: to be fighting on either side. And frankly, the idea 195 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: that there seems to be people on the left internationally 196 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: now trolling the whole concept of let's have a war, 197 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: let's fight this, let's put more boots on the ground, 198 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: let's throw more money at it. It's completely contrary to 199 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: what I thought the left wanted. If John Lennon was 200 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: right here now, right, I'd suggest he would say, give 201 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: piece a chance. And so let me just say it 202 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: for you. So, I think what Donald Trump did on 203 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: the weekend Our Time Friday in America was actually exposed 204 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: to the fact that Zelenski was just chasing the chasing 205 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: the money. And I don't know whether he's got my 206 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: dignity left out of all of it, but it's not 207 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: a popular opinion. A lot of media in this country 208 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: running that sort of Zolensi was right. Trump was wrong. 209 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: But you know, Trump arrangement syndrome is pretty endemic in 210 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: this country right now. 211 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: It certainly is. 212 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: And I'll be talking to Josh Hammer about this after 213 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: the break because so much of the coverage, particularly in 214 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: this country, has just been borderline delusional to unhinged. I've 215 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: just been shocked even the character risation of what happened 216 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: in that meeting. It's clear that so many people talking 217 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 4: about it haven't actually bothered to watch the fifty minute interaction, 218 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: because that press conference went for fifteen minutes, and if 219 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: you watch the whole thing, your impression of it could 220 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: be very different to that five to six minute bit 221 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: that everyone's highlighting. Before you go, Gary, just quickly, former 222 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: Midnight Oil frontman Peter Garrett, former Australian minister in the 223 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: Federal Government. Peter Garrett was on stage at the Perth 224 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 4: Festival with his band The Alter Egos on Friday night 225 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: and he encouraged the attendees to pretend they're dancing on 226 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: Gina Reinhart's grave. Gary, Such an ugly, unnecessary, divisive bit 227 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: of commentary from someone who should know better. 228 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 12: Yeah. 229 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: I first met Peter Garrett about nineteen seventy eight. He 230 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: was an activist then in the Parliament. When I served 231 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: with him, he was a pleasant enough sort of fellow, 232 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: but an activist then and he's now out of the parliament. 233 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: He's an activist again for him, it's still nineteen seventy six, 234 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: That's how I read it. He's still really in these 235 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: harder hearts in the nuclear Disarmament Party. He really hasn't 236 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: understood mainstream in Australia, but he writes really good songs. 237 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: So this is the problem. But you know, picking on 238 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: Gena Reinhart probably well without that, it's been a while 239 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Garrett in Australians. Well, yeah, I know what I'm just saying. 240 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: This is this bloke. Garrett's a little bit sort of 241 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: he's worn out down the path of the same old stuff. 242 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: We've moved on. Peter, you need to as well. But 243 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: Gina Reinhart, she contributes so much of this country. How 244 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: dare he big on it? 245 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 12: I'd say. 246 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 247 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: And you know what, it's been a long time between 248 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: Drenks as far as the last great song Garrett's written, 249 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: and in the meantime Gena Einhart has contributed a great more, 250 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: great deal more to this country he ever will. 251 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: Gary hart Grave, thanks for your time tonight. 252 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 4: Joining me now is esteemed geologist and author Professor Ian Pott. Firstly, 253 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: in you work closely with Gina rein Hart, what was 254 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: your reaction to that shocking bit of I don't even 255 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: know what you call it, shocking bit of. 256 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: Hate from Peter Garrett. Such a stupid. 257 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: Thing for a man of his vintage to say this 258 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: used to be a senior federal minister in the Australian government. 259 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 12: Well, he's a failed senior federal minister, as many of 260 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 12: them are in the current government. And I think he's 261 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 12: on tune. Labor and the left are uncouth, they're vile, 262 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 12: they're driven with bile and hatred. And here he is 263 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:47,359 Speaker 12: an unsuccessful, failed federal minister criticizing one of the greatest 264 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 12: success people that we've seen in this country. She is 265 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 12: the greatest Australian, this woman that this country has ever produced. 266 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 12: She has built businesses from nothing. She has employed thousands, 267 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 12: thousands and thousands of people in Western Australia. He picked 268 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 12: the wrong venue because he's playing an away game. He's vile, 269 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 12: he's uncouth, whereas those on the conservative side tend to 270 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 12: be more reserved, tend to have values and tend to 271 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 12: have principles. So he really showed his disclosure. 272 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: You work with Gina. 273 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 12: Einharder of a number of the companies. 274 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: For many years. 275 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 4: You know her well, and to me, it's always very 276 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: illuminating that people who pretend to be for women's rights, 277 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: pretend to be for women's empowerment, doing nothing to praise 278 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: a woman who is obviously a great Australian who contributes 279 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: so much, employs so many people, like you said, is 280 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 4: the biggest taxpayer in this country, supports so many charities, 281 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 4: quietly support so many athletes, and yet she gets no 282 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 4: credit for that. In a male dominated field, she is 283 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: the most successful, and yet they give her no credit 284 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: for that. 285 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: Now, let's get to New South Wales. 286 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: They've abandoned the proposal to follow Queensland and requiring newly 287 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: installed air conditioners to be able to be remotely throttled 288 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: by the government during peak demand on hot days. This 289 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: is after research from Queensland's implementation of the system revealed 290 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: that the true energy reduction from this big brother system 291 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: is far lower than expected. I can't believe that anybody 292 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: would contemplate this in a free world, that you've got 293 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: Australians who can't turn on their own air conditioners which 294 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: they pay a fortune to run during peak periods because 295 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: we don't have enough energy. 296 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 12: Well, when I was a kid. Air conditioning was free. 297 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 12: We just opened or closed window. 298 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: Now we have advanced, had a lot of help on 299 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: a thirty five degree day. 300 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 12: And on thirty five degrees days we can now cool 301 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 12: the air and we can dehumid the year. Now, I 302 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 12: see that's an advance. And what the attempts are being 303 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 12: made by bureaucrats is to crank back those advances because 304 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 12: they have destroyed a very efficient and reliable energy system 305 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 12: and in order to save energy, they want to have 306 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 12: people sweat themselves to death and cook while they're working. Now, 307 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 12: why don't they fix up their own game. Why don't 308 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 12: they fix up the energy system rather than penalizing everybody. 309 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 12: We're penalized enough with our electricity bills. We don't have 310 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 12: to be penalized at work. 311 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: Well in Victoria, offshore wind plans have been left in 312 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: the Surrey after Chris Bowen announced the decision to reject 313 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 4: a feasibility license for the Sea Dragon project off the 314 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 4: Gippsland coast because of a small overlap in his seven 315 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: hundred square kilometer proposal with a project by another company. 316 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 4: Chris Bowen has also revealed on Friday that US owned 317 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 4: Renewables operate a blue Float. 318 00:17:58,720 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: Energy has asked. 319 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: The other is the government to pause its application for 320 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 4: its project in the Illawarra south of Sydney until after 321 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 4: the election. 322 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: These projects seem to all be sort of in disarray. 323 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: Well with the taxpayer fun stop, these projects seem to 324 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: have all sorts of feasibility issues. 325 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: Well. 326 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 12: Labour's getting a thrashing in the Illawarra area and also 327 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 12: in the Newcastle area because they want to spoil a 328 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 12: wonderful coastline with these monstrosities that kill whales and slice 329 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 12: and dice birds. Now they know that it's unpopular, they 330 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 12: know there's an election coming up very soon, and so 331 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 12: they've just paused it. Now, this is going to come 332 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 12: back again if they get voded in, especially if there's 333 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 12: a coalition between the Dark Greens at Adam Band's party 334 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 12: the Light Greens which are the Deals and Labor. So 335 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 12: I wouldn't believe a word that. 336 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: That's the bound up with. Yeah, they will come back, 337 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: plus some if you. 338 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 12: Under a different name, and this will be a wonderful new. 339 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: And more tax pay dollars. This is interesting news. 340 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 4: Mercedes Benz is Orbit admitting that their ev. 341 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: Push was a massive mistake. 342 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 4: The Order mortem motive Giant is now committing to bringing 343 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 4: back it's V eight engines and a bid to win 344 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 4: back customers. 345 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: And they wasted a lot. 346 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: Of money and argue they damaged their brand with this 347 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 4: mad green push. 348 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 3: But reality is caught up with them. 349 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 12: Well, reality has caught up with them and many many 350 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 12: other car manufacturers in Europe who realize that the EV 351 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 12: is not the car. We tried evs in the first 352 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 12: part of the twentieth century. They didn't work, they were 353 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 12: not successful, they were very expensive, they had a short life, 354 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 12: and all of a sudden, they've reinvented the wheel. Mercedes 355 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 12: Benz has gone back to what they do well and 356 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 12: that's made very very good internal combustion engines and machines. 357 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 12: And they are joining many many other companies that realized 358 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 12: we have been drinking the kool aid. It affected us. 359 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 12: We've got to get back to basics. And the basics 360 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 12: are create a good car that people are going to 361 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 12: buy and we will make a profit. 362 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: That's it. 363 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: And EV's could be fine if you're talking about a tiny, 364 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: tiny little country where you travel to all three kilometers occasionally, 365 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 4: but in a country like Australia in America, it's just 366 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 4: not practical. And I remember the last couple of times 367 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: I've been in the States, when you go to rent 368 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 4: a car, the evs are so cheap because nobody wants them. 369 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: They've just gooked. 370 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: I just got them sitting in the yard there collecting dust. 371 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 4: With a supplimber. Thank you so much for your time tonight. 372 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: Thank you still doing karma. Lefties Losing It? Plus some 373 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 4: much needed sober analysis on the extraordinary Zelenski outburst. 374 00:20:49,160 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: John Chama joins us next welcome back. It's time for 375 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 3: lefties losing ed. 376 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 4: Let's start with a couple of Democrat operatives embarrassing themselves 377 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: with their Trump delusions. Is the diabolical Alexander Vindman saying 378 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 4: that JD. Vance and Donald Trump should apologize to Zelenski. 379 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: He demands it. 380 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 11: Evans owned apology, President Trump. 381 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 10: Oh, is Zolenskin apology for the way he's treated? 382 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: I demand it. I demand that he demands it. Oh 383 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 3: did God? 384 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: Even the CNN panel will amused by that foolishness. But 385 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: for a really severe, incurable case of tedious lunacy, we 386 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 4: cannot go past this mad rand from James Carville. 387 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 5: I'm talking about madness like King George the third kind 388 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 5: of madness, and it could be a combination of being 389 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: a fat slab, which it could be that she's can't 390 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 5: sleep at night because his beached whale body can't allow 391 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 5: the circulation it needs. 392 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 6: You. 393 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 5: I don't know, God, I don't know. I'm not a 394 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 5: sleep specialist or a medical doct but I think we 395 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 5: should revisit the possibility of a Simphlis diagnosis. 396 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: Oh my god, no wonder. 397 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 4: The Democrats are practically unelectable at the moment. 398 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 3: Let's look at Saturday Night Live. 399 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 12: Now. 400 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: They had their own take on the Zelenski blow up. 401 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 4: And sadly, it was about as funny as a burst appendix. 402 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 12: Sorry, if I you. 403 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 9: Know, you say you want to end this war, but frankly, 404 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 9: you don't have the cards. Okay, I have the cards. 405 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: All right, I have skip, I have draw for, I have. 406 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 9: Rehearse, I have get out of jail free. The Supreme 407 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 9: Court gave me. 408 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 5: That one speak at Chew and jar Man and jar Reside. 409 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: All I'm missing is a jar melion. 410 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: Not only did that guy look nothing like Trump or 411 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: sound anything like Trump, the whole thing was so lame 412 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 4: and unfunny. And what's worse is that they had the 413 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 4: best Trump impersonator available. Shane Gillis was on the show 414 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: Here is on kill Tony shortly before the election, and 415 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 4: I warn. 416 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: You this is a little blue, but it's actually funny. 417 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: Everybody. 418 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 9: Oh hey, what a great lady. I talked to her, 419 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 9: a backstage and wonderful woman. The tits are real. Excuse me, 420 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 9: excuse me. A lot of people are saying they're tits 421 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 9: are fake. They're not fake. I touched them and great tits, 422 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 9: wonderful tits, American tits. And that's that's the thing that 423 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 9: we've lost under this administration. Where are the American tits anymore? 424 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 4: But instead, Saturday Night Live had gill Is doing a 425 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 4: new skit. Now it was okay, it was amusing enough, 426 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: but he should have been playing Donald Trump. 427 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: Let's have a quick look at that new skit. 428 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 8: The suspects are believed to be four white I'm sorry. 429 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: What's going on? 430 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: Oh? 431 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 9: Nothing, No, just relieved that the police have a quite 432 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 9: identified the suspects. Exactly, very quite. 433 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 8: Okay. Police are looking for looters. 434 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 9: Huh. 435 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 8: Hear that these looters were spotted after wildfires devastated homes 436 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 8: in Hunt Valley townships. 437 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: I just read the story. 438 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 3: That's enough. 439 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 8: Looks like they stole televisions, bikes. Who do you think 440 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 8: that was? What kind of you think that was? 441 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 13: Job? 442 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 8: Do? All right? Police are wanting to look out for 443 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 8: the alleged ringleader, local man named Ethan Kapowski. Dammit. 444 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 4: Now, since we delving into the world of comedy, let's 445 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 4: hear from comic John Christ mocking social justice warriors and 446 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 4: grandstand on the internet. About time these massive hypocrites were 447 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: called out, just. 448 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 6: Like on the internet, Just like we stand with Ukraine. 449 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: I go, you don't even have custody of your kids 450 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 2: doing what? 451 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 6: Who are you talking to? Pick up your kids from 452 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 6: soccer practice? Then we'll talk about foreign policy. Kevin, we 453 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 6: are living on stolen land. I'm like, you're stolen your parents' 454 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 6: cell phone? Play out, you're on stolen minutes, Brittany, who 455 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 6: are you talking to now? 456 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 4: I've been waiting all we can to speak with my 457 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 4: next guest about the extraordinary scenes in the Oval office 458 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 4: and the fallout from the Zelenski effet, including Kirs Starmer's 459 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 4: comments about boots on the ground joining me now as 460 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: a Newsweek Senior editor at Large and article three Projects 461 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 4: in your Council Josh Hammer. Josh, I've seldom seen more misinformation, 462 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 4: more ill informed emoting masquerading as analysis on any issue 463 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 4: than what transpired to the White House. It's why I'm 464 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 4: eager to get your sober, reality based commentary. I watched 465 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 4: the full interaction. It goes for around fifty minutes, and 466 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: it's eye opening. I'd suggest to any pundit commenting on 467 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 4: this issue. 468 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: To actually watch that full. 469 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: Encounter before opining about what happened in the White House. 470 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 4: But Josh, these negotiations have been underway for some time, 471 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: and some of the crazy reasons. A Lenski decided to 472 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: renegotiate the deal in front of the world's media and 473 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 4: decided to do it by being incredibly rude, incredibly dismissive 474 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: of both the President and the Vice President. 475 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 2: It's one of the most astonishing things I think I've 476 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: ever seen in politics. You know, you know, I was 477 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: actually recording an episode of my own show, The Josh 478 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: Hammer Show, while this was happening live the White House, 479 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: and I recorded a whole segment on the rush of 480 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: Ukraine deal because I assumed that it was basically a 481 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: done deal. And then I saw what happened, and I 482 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: text my producer. I was like, oh my god, we 483 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 2: have to redo the entire segment, Like, what the heck 484 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: just happened at the White House here? I mean, what 485 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: was Zelenski thinking? I mean, I, like you, Reta, have 486 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: watched this entire exchange there. You know, it almost seems 487 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: to me like he went in there with the full 488 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: intention of just blowing this up. And I'm not entirely 489 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: sure exactly what he's trying to do other than the 490 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 2: fact that one, I don't think he's very good at this. 491 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: I don't think Vladimir Lenski is very good at this 492 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 2: whole international politics thing too. He must have the worst 493 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: advisors in the world. Remember when he did that campaign 494 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: stop with Kamala Harrison Pennsylvania Abthumunitions Factory. He has gone 495 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: all in repeatedly for the left, four Liberals, four Democrats there, 496 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: and he doubled down and tripled down quadrule down in 497 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: utterly spectacular fashion there. Donald Trump and JD. Van's read, 498 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 2: Let's be very clear here, they did nothing wrong. Nothing. 499 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: I cannot name a single thing that I think they 500 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: did wrong. On the contrary, they had extraordinary patience there. 501 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: They spends roughly thirty five minutes out of that fifty 502 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 2: five minut or so Egene here trying to get Zelensky 503 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 2: to actually agree to the deal that he'd basically, in 504 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: theory already agreed to. Well, the whole thing's mass, the 505 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: whole thing's mass. But Zelenski is entirely to blame for it. 506 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,239 Speaker 2: He really is one hundred percent to blame here. 507 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 4: I think, Well, when you do watch the entire exchange, 508 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 4: you do see that Donald Trump in particular was uncharacteristically 509 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: patient and diplomatic, as Zelenski just was dismissive, would make comments, 510 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: would roll his eyes. It was just I just don't 511 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: know why that performance took place. And I do wonder 512 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: whether this relationship between Zelenski and the Trump administration is salvagable. 513 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: I hope for the sake of the Ukrainian people it 514 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 4: is salvagable and it's done quickly. But even some of 515 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: Zelenski's biggest supporters, including Senator Lindsay Graham, who has campaigned 516 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 4: endlessly for further funding for Ukraine, even he was appalled 517 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 4: by what happened in the Oval office. And I've got 518 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: to say this is significant. This is his comments shortly 519 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 4: after the press conference ended. 520 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 14: What I saw in the Oval office was disrespectful, and 521 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 14: I don't know if we can ever do business with 522 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 14: Zolenski again. 523 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: I don't. 524 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 14: I think most Americans saw a guy that they would 525 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 14: not want to go in business with. The way he 526 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 14: handled the meeting, the way he confronted the President was 527 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 14: just over the top. He either needs to resign and 528 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 14: send somebody over that we can do business with, or 529 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 14: he needs to change. 530 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: That's from mal Vladimir Zelenski's most ardent backer arguably over 531 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 4: the past three years, and Secretary of State Mirco Rubio 532 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 4: explains here the administration's frustrations with Zelenski and the discussions 533 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: he had about that mineral still, which Zelenski backed in 534 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 4: the meetings they had. 535 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 10: And he said, sure, want to do this deal. It 536 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 10: makes all the sense in the world. The only thing 537 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 10: is I need to run it through my legislative process. 538 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 10: They have to approve it. I read two days later 539 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 10: that Zelensky's out there saying I rejected the deal. I 540 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 10: told him no way, that we're not doing that. Well, 541 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 10: that's not what happened in that meeting. So you start 542 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 10: to get upset by somebody we're trying to help these guys. 543 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 10: Donald Trump's President Trump's not the kind of person that's 544 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 10: going to sit there and take that. He's very transparent. 545 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 10: He's going to tell you exactly how he feels. And 546 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 10: he sent the message that he's not going to get 547 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 10: gained here. He's willing to work on peace because he 548 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 10: cares about Ukraine and he hopes Zelensky will be a 549 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 10: partner in that and not someone who's out there putting 550 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 10: the sort of counter messaging to try to hustle us 551 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 10: in that regard. That's not going to be productive here, Josh. 552 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: This hustling, these strategies may have worked with the last administration. 553 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 4: We do know Joe Biden lost his temper with Zelenski 554 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 4: and shouted at him, but in the end he kept 555 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: writing these massive checks on behalf of the American people. 556 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 4: But the American people don't want this anymore. They don't 557 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 4: want to be funding this war. This was an election issue. 558 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 4: We know precisely where President Trump stands on this issue. 559 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: So again, I do. 560 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 4: Wonder why Zelenski took the route he took knowing this 561 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: administration's position on this entire catastrophe. 562 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: So here's my best guess. I mean, one. I genuinely 563 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: meant what I said for you, Enscuo. I think the 564 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: Vlaimir Zelensky is kind of an idiot when it comes 565 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: to international geopolitics. I actually do not think he understands 566 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: American political dynamics particularly well. By the way, he would 567 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: be far from the first foreign leader to fail to 568 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: properly understand American political dynamics or politics can be a 569 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: little complicated. Not necessarily his fault there, but he also 570 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: just totally mistook the year. I mean, the year is 571 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. I think that I think that he 572 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: still thinks the year is twenty twenty two and that 573 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is still in charge, because again he has 574 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: made his bed with the Democrats. He did that whole 575 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: campaign stop with Kamala Harris there. He's just completely unwilling 576 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: to read the room and to see the teeleies and 577 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: recognize what they are. By the way, the deal that 578 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: he should have agreed to, that I still ultimately has 579 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: a chance if Zelenski steps down and is replaced by 580 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: different leader. There. This mineral rights deal actually a pretty 581 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: good deal for Ukraine. The US is not going to 582 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: go all in at this point on a NATO esque 583 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: security guarantee with boots on the ground thing for Ukraine. 584 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: What a mineral rights deal does do, though, or some 585 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: sort of economic arrangement, it gives the United States real, meaningful, 586 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: tangible skin in the game that actually does make them invested, 587 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: quite literally in the outcome of peace and prosperity and 588 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: economic growth and the shared pie and all that stuff 589 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: in Ukraine. So if Zelenski had two wits about him, 590 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: if he had any common sense whatsoever, he would have 591 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: read the room. He would have gone in there. Thank you, 592 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: mister President, Thank you, mister Vice President, for your taxpayers 593 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: who has spent one hundred and fifty billion dollars or 594 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 2: whatever the heck is gargantuan, some has been there. Thank 595 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: you for the fact that you campaigned relentlessly on peace, 596 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: and yet here you are inviting me here to the 597 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: Oval Office. By the way, I noticed that you're meeting 598 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: with me before Vladimir Putin. I'm flattered by that. Thank 599 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: you for that. There like there's misplaying your hand and 600 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: then there's misplaying the most important mean that your country 601 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: has had in a century. And he's done the latter, 602 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: not the former. 603 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: That's all he needed to do he needed to wear 604 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: a suit. It's a small thing, but it shows respect. 605 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: Or in the Oval office, in meeting the president, the 606 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 4: leader of the free world, wear a suit, be deferential, 607 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 4: be polite, just conduct yourself how you would with hopefully. 608 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 3: Any world leader, and walk away. 609 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 4: With an advantageous still for your people, for your country 610 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: that has been devastated by three years of war which 611 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 4: Russia started with this invasion. 612 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: But do we want peace? 613 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 4: Because there are only three options here, And even the 614 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 4: most pro ardent Ukraine expert who's honest, will tell you 615 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 4: this that we can either have the war continue, and 616 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 4: that's only going to work in Ukraine's favor. They're only 617 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: going to their only chance of winning is if there's 618 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 4: troops sent from around the world, boots on the ground, 619 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 4: and we're going to talk about that shortly, which is 620 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 4: potentially the start of World War three against the nuclear 621 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 4: power in Russia. Second option is that you give up 622 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 4: and Russia wins. No one wants that. The third option 623 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: is peace with an advantageous still for Ukraine, and this 624 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 4: is what was being worked out. So for it to 625 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 4: be blown up in this fashion, I think is just devastating. 626 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 4: And you talked about Vladimir Zelenski not understanding the American dynamic, 627 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 4: the current politics. 628 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 3: Have a look at this polling. 629 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 4: On Ukraine and how much opinions have shifted amongst the 630 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: American people, or not just this conflict, but opinions on 631 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 4: Zelenski himself. This poll, I hastened to add, was taken 632 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 4: before the meeting. 633 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: Your support for Ukraine is too much. 634 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 13: Back when the war began, back in February of twenty 635 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 13: twenty two, it was just seven percent. Up like a 636 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 13: rocket ship, my goodness. Up now in February of twenty 637 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 13: twenty five to forty one percent, and the clear majority 638 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 13: of Republicans, and of course Republicans are in charge of 639 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 13: the US. Now sixty two percent of Republicans say that 640 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 13: the US support for Ukraine is too much. 641 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: What a difference from just three years ago. 642 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 13: Feelings towards Zelensky have changed also dramatically. Look at this 643 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 13: confidence Lensky will do the right thing when it comes 644 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 13: to world affairs. Back in twenty twenty two, it was 645 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 13: the clear majority, seventy two percent, through the floor, through 646 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 13: the floor. 647 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: By twenty twenty four, just forty eight percent. 648 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 4: I think after that performance in the White House, the 649 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 4: figure is going to be far lower, Josh. And again, 650 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 4: Trump got elected on an American First agenda. It underpins 651 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 4: his entire platform, and it seems that's lost on so 652 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 4: many political pundits. 653 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 3: It seems to have been lost on most of the. 654 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: EU, because that means something that's more than just USA 655 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: chance and high fives. That means you do what's best 656 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 4: for the American people, and the American people have made 657 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 4: it clear. 658 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 3: That they do not want to fund these less wars. 659 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: That's exactly correct, by the way. I'm actually kind of 660 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 2: surprised per Harry Enton's graphic there on seeing them, a 661 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: little surprised that that forty one percent of Americans who 662 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: think that there's too much PORP. I would think that 663 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: number would actually be even higher. I think the number 664 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: probably will go up even higher now over the next 665 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: week or so after that meeting on Friday. I guess 666 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 2: we'll see what it is. But Donald Trump's the art 667 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: of the deal guy Rita. I mean, this is the 668 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 2: guy who became famous with the whole art of the 669 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 2: deal thing. He became famous hosting The Apprentice. He loves 670 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: deal making, and this is a deal that he literally 671 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: campaigned on. This is One of the hallmarks of his 672 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: campaign was bringing this internal conflict in eastern Ukraine and 673 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: Russia to an end. You know, the media tends to 674 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: focus so much, rida oftentimes on the Middle East and 675 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 2: the war in Gaza and Lebanon and all that there. 676 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: But let me just say, the death toll in those conflicts, 677 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 2: while every innocent life loss is obviously tragic, pales in 678 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 2: comparison to the orders of magnitude. More people, oftentimes young men, 679 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: who have just been slaughtered on the front lines on 680 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: both sides of this conflict. An entire generation of you 681 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: Ranians has essentially been lost that country. It's going to 682 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 2: take a half century to a century to fully get 683 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 2: back in terms of demographics, economy there. The whole country 684 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: has been wrecked. So if Lamar Zelenski is still committed 685 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 2: to this day till fighting till he retains every single 686 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 2: square inch of territory, he will countenance no possible deal 687 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: without a NATO S security guarantee. I ask you, mister Zelensky, 688 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: at what cost, At what cost to your own country, 689 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 2: to your own people that again has been just utterly 690 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 2: devastated by this. All the people been slaughtered who have 691 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 2: moved abroad there Ukraine is it's going to take my 692 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: entire lifetime to recover from this. I'm not sure that 693 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: Zelenski understands that. I think he probably does not, frankly, 694 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 2: because again he's so high on his own supply from 695 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: the four years of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and 696 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 2: all the various Democratic boosters in the United States Senate 697 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: in particular there. But if he can't get the job 698 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: done Rita, he has to go, he has to resign 699 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 2: and get someone in charge. We can actually get this 700 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: piece still. 701 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 4: Done, Joshua saying the British prime ministic case Stama Price. 702 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 4: Why for standing with Zelenski at his time of need. 703 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 4: Let's listen to what he had to say and see 704 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 4: if you can catch the enormous contradiction. 705 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 11: The UK is prepared to back this with boots on 706 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 11: the ground and planes in the air, together with others. 707 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 11: Europe must do the heavy listing. But to support peace 708 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 11: in our continent and to succeed this effort must have 709 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 11: strong US backing. 710 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 4: Josh What are the chances that the US will back 711 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 4: anything resembling boots on the. 712 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: Ground, So, I mean read a creme if I'm wrong, 713 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: but I think the contradiction that you're getting at is, 714 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 2: on the one hand, here Starmer saying that Europe must 715 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: take care of its own backyard, and then on the 716 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: other hand, like two seconds later, he's saying it must 717 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: have strong US backing as well. Look, the entire purpose 718 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: of what Trump is trying to do, right, I say, Santa, 719 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 2: I mean, the entire purpose what Donald Trump is trying 720 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 2: to do in the Russia Ukraine theater is to transfer 721 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: the baton, so to speak, to the Europeans to better 722 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 2: patrol their own backyard. Look, America is in a difficult situation. 723 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: Barack Obama, back in the year twenty fourteen, around then Rita, 724 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: he became the first president in US history to formally 725 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: disavow a long standing United States military doctrine that required 726 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 2: that the US be militarily capable of winning two major 727 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 2: conflicts simultaneous in the World States. Barack Obama conscientiously got 728 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 2: rid of that. Since then, especially with the concombinant rise 729 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 2: of China, the United States is in a somewhat precarious 730 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 2: position in the world stage. We're basically in a century 731 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 2: long great power competition with China. China's arrival, when it 732 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 2: comes to the economy, when it comes to national security, 733 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 2: when it comes to basically everything out there. What that 734 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: means is that we cannot fund interminably a Slavic proxy 735 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: war in Eastern Ukraine. There it's simply not in the 736 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: American national interest to do so. That is the MAGA 737 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 2: America first point. And on that point, Donald Trump and 738 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: Jadvans are entirely right. By the way, if we cannot 739 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: provoke the Russian bear so much, maybe just maybe we 740 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 2: can sever the link between Vlaimir Putin and the Kremlin 741 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: and Shi jimping in the Chinese Pola Borough, and maybe 742 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 2: just maybe pull the Russians, not necessarily into the American 743 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 2: sphere of influence, but at least in something remotely approximating neutrality. 744 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 2: So if you can basically several of that russo sign 745 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 2: a link between Russia and China, that would be a brilliant, 746 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant active statesmanship. I'm not entirely I'm not saying 747 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: that's going to happen. I'm not confidently predicting that there. 748 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 2: But I do think that Donald Trump is such a 749 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: successful historical deal maker that's probably in the back of 750 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: his mind there and again, the Europeans have to take 751 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 2: care of this. The Germans, the Poles, the French, the Brits. 752 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: Come on, guys, muscle up and put some dollars down. 753 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 4: Look, if europe can increase defense spending, if they can 754 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 4: commit forces to protect their own continent, I think Donald 755 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 4: Trump and most Americans will be enormously happy with that. 756 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 4: But whether that's actually going to happen is the question. 757 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 4: Before you go, The New York Post is reporting that 758 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 4: Vice President JD. Vance was forced to move his family 759 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 4: to an undisclosed like Haiti after pro Ukrainian protest has 760 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 4: swarmed the ski resort where he was vacationing. What has 761 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 4: been the reaction to Vance's part in this Zelenski blow up, 762 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 4: particularly amongst the GOP, because there's been a lot of 763 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 4: analysis that I think is again ill informed. I've I've 764 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 4: read people saying that Donald Trump would be terribly upset 765 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 4: with JD. Vance's interjections and upstaging him. I don't think 766 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 4: that's the case at all. I think those two are 767 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 4: very much on the same page. 768 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: They are on the same page. In fact, if you 769 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 2: go back to the Ohio Senate primary back in twenty 770 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 2: twenty two where Gdvans beat out Josh Mandel and the 771 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 2: various others there. He ran on this exact platform. Ukraine 772 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 2: was actually a major issue for JD Vans, and actually 773 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: things got really tense and one those Ohio Republican primary 774 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: Senate to base Ages actually I think was doubling down 775 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 2: so much on his stands on Ukraine. So Jed actually 776 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 2: really believes on this issue. He's in locksta have agreeing 777 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 2: with Donald Trump. By the way, these people are this 778 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 2: ski resort disgusting, absolutely discussing. They are nothing new on 779 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 2: the left. Obviously. I remember this footage of Ted Cruz 780 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 2: getting dinner with his family in Washington, DC years ago. 781 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 2: They blow up or not, they don't really blow up, 782 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 2: but they go in there, they intrude on the restaurant there. 783 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: They have to kick the people out. This is a 784 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: disgusting tactic. Conservatives don't do this there. This is the 785 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 2: unique province of the left and they should bow their 786 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 2: heads and shame for because it's really just disgusting, lowball 787 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: gutter stuff. 788 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 4: It is lowball gutter stuff. But we are seeing this 789 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 4: enormous political realignment. The left is suddenly now pro war 790 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 4: and anti free speech. 791 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 3: You wouldn't have called this a few years ago. Josh Havah, 792 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time tonight. 793 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 2: Thank you reader. 794 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 4: Still to come elon masks fourteenth baby with It Another Woman, 795 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 4: Kinsey Schofield has the details. You're watching the Raider Panehy 796 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 4: show and joining me now celebrity and royal commentator Kinsey's 797 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 4: scho filled Kinsey as sources revealed to the Daily Now 798 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 4: that the Oscars scrambled to pull together a memorium tribute 799 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 4: to Gene Hackman in time for the ceremony following the 800 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,959 Speaker 4: sudden and mysterious death of him and his wife last week, 801 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 4: with an official cause yet to be determined. 802 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,959 Speaker 3: What else can you. 803 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 4: Tell us about this tragic story? 804 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely so. 805 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 7: Jane was ninety five years old, his wife Betsy was 806 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 7: just sixty four years old, and they were both found 807 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 7: partially mammified at the couple's three point three million dollar 808 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 7: mansion in Santa Fe, New Mexico, with pills strown around 809 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 7: Betsy the wife in the bathroom, along with the deceased 810 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 7: dog a few feet away from her. Jean's pacemaker last 811 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 7: showed activity on February seventeenth, RITA. That's nine days before 812 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 7: maintenance and security workers discovered their bodies. They did find 813 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 7: two living dogs on the property. We are still trying 814 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 7: to determine cause of death, but it could take a while. 815 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, they're going to have to wait 816 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 7: for toxicology ecology results before we will have any sort 817 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 7: of indication as to what happened. 818 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 4: I was just absolutely tragic. Will bring you the latest 819 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 4: as we learn what happened there. Now large portion of 820 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 4: oscar's committee members have stained from voting this year because 821 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 4: the selection of awards nominees has become to woke. This 822 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 4: is according to an expert. They feel this is the 823 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 4: end of the award show because smaller movies are now 824 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 4: being nominated over the big blockbuster films that people actually 825 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 4: end up seeing. 826 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 3: And there's all these d eye requirements. 827 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 4: Tell me about these, surely the Oscars aren't on their 828 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 4: last legs. 829 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, the Academy now requires that the films 830 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 7: that are considered they have to have at least two 831 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 7: out of these four pieces of criteria to even be considered, 832 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 7: which is focusing on underrepresented groups including racial and ethnic groups, women, 833 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 7: people with disabilities, and the lgbt Q plus community. 834 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 3: And I think you'll agree with me. 835 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 7: People generally watch films for entertainment, storytelling, and emotional connection, 836 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 7: not to be lectured to. If a movie prioritizes delivering 837 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 7: a walk message over compelling characters and narratives, it feels 838 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 7: forced and almost condescending coming from Hollywood. Oh. 839 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely. And you can see these. 840 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 4: Programs with the TV shows or movies where they seem 841 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 4: to be ticking a box and it just detracts from 842 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 4: the art. It should just be about communicating something or 843 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 4: entertaining or making people feel something. All these other considerations. 844 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 3: Should not come into it. 845 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 4: We're going to have to get to Megan Marcolf tried 846 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 4: to avoid her tonight, but here we are. She's been 847 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 4: caught up and yet another copycat scandal, this time evolving 848 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 4: her new cooking book. 849 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 3: It's been alleged that with Love, Meghan. 850 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 4: Has been almost entirely copying from Pamela Anderson's show, Pamela's 851 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 4: Cooking with Love, with a trailer for Megan's show in 852 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 4: some sections being a frame by frame replica of Pamela's. 853 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 3: Surely not, Surely. 854 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 4: This is some sort of a wild coincidence, Kinsey, Oh, 855 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 4: why is. 856 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 7: Megan Michael making a cooking show because she's great at 857 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 7: following recipes. But I'm cooking up her own ideas. But 858 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 7: I think that Pamela Anderson did make a guest appearance 859 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 7: on Meghan's father show, Married with Children. 860 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 11: Maybe Meghan has been. 861 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 7: A fan ever since Rita. Who knows, Maybe she's always 862 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 7: been inspired. 863 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 4: Now Elon Musk has somehow welcomed his fourteenth child already. 864 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 4: It was only three or four days ago we were 865 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 4: talking about the thirteenth child. Allegedly, this fourth child is 866 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 4: with a schivon Zillis. 867 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 3: We know that much. What else can you tell us, Kinsey. 868 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 7: I can tell you this announcement doesn't bode well for 869 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 7: Ashley Saint Clair, who Elon has yet to appropriately acknowledge, 870 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 7: a topic I couldn't believe Joe Rogan completely ignored last 871 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 7: week when he sat down with him. It did not 872 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 7: feel you know, I expect more from Joe Rogan, is 873 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 7: what I'm trying to say. But Elon has acknowledged this child. 874 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 7: He hasn't actually acknowledged Ashley Saint Clair's so I'm sure 875 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 7: she's really upset right now. 876 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 4: I think she would be upset right now because he 877 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 4: hasn't acknowledged that baby yet and Prince Harry. He has 878 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 4: been accused of having a passive aggressive jab at Elon 879 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 4: Musk and Donald Trump at the Upfront summit in Los Angeles, 880 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 4: where he told the crowd that a sickness in leadership 881 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 4: across sectors from politics to tech interesting can have a 882 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 4: detrimental effect on millions ah. 883 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 3: In leadership from politics to tech. What could he have 884 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 3: been talking about. 885 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 7: Kinsey, definitely a swape at Donald Trump and Elon Musk, 886 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 7: who we both know are not only vindictive but incredibly powerful. 887 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 7: Right now, you and I've discussed that Donald Trump will 888 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 7: not deport Prince Harry, but the Mail on Sunday reports 889 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 7: that President Trump remains committed to prosecuting criminal prosecution if 890 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 7: Prince Harry allied on his visa application, and guess what, Rita, 891 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 7: we expect it to get a few more details from 892 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 7: the DHS about what's actually on his application in the 893 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 7: next few days, which might disrupt Megan Markle's big premiere. 894 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 7: So you know, fingers crossed that Prince Harry's visa information 895 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,760 Speaker 7: doesn't negatively affect the hype around Megan's show. 896 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 4: Is it too cynical to think that she might actually 897 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 4: love that because you can think of no greater promotion 898 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 4: for any projects she has than her husband being under investigation, 899 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 4: possibly facing charges, even though deportation has been taken off 900 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 4: the table. 901 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 3: Because Donald Trump feels so sorry for him. 902 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 4: This is yeah, this is going to be a fascinating 903 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 4: set of events to observe. Kinsey Schofield. We love speaking 904 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 4: with you. Thanks for your time tonight, and that's all 905 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 4: the time I've got tonight. I'll see you at eleven 906 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 4: tomorrow night. Up next is Newsnight.