WEBVTT - Trump’s trans revolution

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<v Speaker 1>From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Friday, February seven. The White House is scrambling to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the fallout from President Donald Trump's big plan

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<v Speaker 1>to take control of the Gaza Strip. Secretary of State

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Rubio says any relocations of Palestinians would be temporary

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<v Speaker 1>while Gaza is rebuilt. The brother of missing woman Bromwyn

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<v Speaker 1>Winfield has called on a coroner to investigate a Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>home where he says her body may be hidden. A

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<v Speaker 1>new episode of the Australians chart topping investigative podcast Bromwin

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<v Speaker 1>is out now at Bromwyn podcast dot com. Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is on our gender policy blitz. He signed an executive

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<v Speaker 1>order banning transgender athletes from women's competitions. So what does

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<v Speaker 1>it mean for the future of sport?

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<v Speaker 2>That's today's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Paris Olympics, Algerian welterweight boxer Imman Kalif put

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<v Speaker 1>on a phenomenal display of strength and speed.

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<v Speaker 3>The International Olympic Committee is playing defense a day after

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<v Speaker 3>an Algerian boxer deemed a biological male, faced off against

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<v Speaker 3>an Italian opponent who has hit so hard she stopped

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<v Speaker 3>the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Italian Angela Karini could take no more, feeling unfairly overpowered

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<v Speaker 1>by Imanhalif.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember the crowd is absolutely roaring inside here at Sene

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<v Speaker 4>Court at Roland Garros Stadium, fifteen thousand fans and really

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<v Speaker 4>started the conversation at poured petrol on this issue of

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<v Speaker 4>x Y athletes and trans athletes being able to participate

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<v Speaker 4>at the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>That's our chief sports writer Jess Halleran, who was in

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<v Speaker 1>Paris for the Games. Khalif isn't trans. She declared she

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<v Speaker 1>was born a woman and she's recognized as female on

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<v Speaker 1>her passport. But this is twenty twenty five and politics

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<v Speaker 1>is less about the nuance and all about the heat

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<v Speaker 1>and light.

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<v Speaker 5>With this executive order, the war on women's sports is over.

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<v Speaker 1>At the White House, surrounded by a crowd of beaming women,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump invoked that boxing match and demand Khalif's subsequent gold

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<v Speaker 1>medal as one of the reasons he's banning transgender athletes

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<v Speaker 1>from women's sport.

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<v Speaker 5>And who could forget last year's Paris Olympics, where a

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<v Speaker 5>male boxer stole the women's gold medal after brutalizing his

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<v Speaker 5>female opponents so viciously that she had to forfeit just

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<v Speaker 5>after forty six seconds. And she was a championship fighter.

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<v Speaker 5>And actually they had two women or two people that transition,

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<v Speaker 5>and both of them won gold medals, and they won

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<v Speaker 5>them very convincingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump signed an executive order stripping federal funding from schools

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<v Speaker 1>and universities that allow transgender women and girls to compete

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<v Speaker 1>in female sports.

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<v Speaker 5>And this doesn't have to be long. It's just all

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<v Speaker 5>about common sense. Doesn't have to be long. In a

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<v Speaker 5>few moments, I'll sign a historic executive order to ban

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<v Speaker 5>men from competing in women's sports.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about that. The order is called keeping Men out

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<v Speaker 1>of Women's Sports, and it's an interpretation of something called

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<v Speaker 1>Title nine, that's a fifty year old federal law banning

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<v Speaker 1>sex discrimination in education.

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<v Speaker 5>Under the Trump administration, we will defend the proud tradition

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<v Speaker 5>of female athletes, and we will not allow men to

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<v Speaker 5>beat up, injure and cheat our women and our girls.

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<v Speaker 5>From now on, women in sports will be only for women.

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<v Speaker 1>As Trump spoke, bureaucrats and officials across government, from health

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<v Speaker 1>care to defense and the criminal justice system, we're adjusting

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<v Speaker 1>to the new mood. They're concerned they'll lose federal funding

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<v Speaker 1>if they continue operating in the ways they have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Public servants have been ordered to remove pronouns from their

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<v Speaker 1>email signatures. In the health system, references to gender diversity,

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<v Speaker 1>and even the acronym LGBT have been scrubbed from government websites.

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<v Speaker 1>The military has halted recruitment of transgender personnel, placed trans

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<v Speaker 1>service members on administrative leave, and limited access to spaces

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<v Speaker 1>like bathrooms on base. Trump says that's led directly to

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<v Speaker 1>an optic in recruitment.

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<v Speaker 5>Every single day, nearly three hundred and fifty new soldiers

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<v Speaker 5>enlisted to defend our nation, and they're very, very happy

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<v Speaker 5>to have done so. They just said there's a spirit

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<v Speaker 5>about our country that they haven't seen in many, many years,

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<v Speaker 5>and I happen to agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>In hospitals, patients receiving gender related treatment have found their

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<v Speaker 1>prescriptions aren't being filled and their surgery is canceled. Transgender

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<v Speaker 1>inmates held in the nation's prisons are being transferred between

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<v Speaker 1>facilities transgender women to men's prisons and vice versa, and

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<v Speaker 1>the distribution of many millions of dollars in aight. It

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<v Speaker 1>has been stopped following claims it was funding diversity, equity

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<v Speaker 1>and inclusion initiatives abroad. DEI is the Trump administration's forbidden acronym.

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<v Speaker 1>It's prompted a wave of legal action from trans military

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<v Speaker 1>recruits and prisoner advocates who say vulnerable people are being

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<v Speaker 1>discriminated against and put at risk.

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<v Speaker 5>So in recent years, the radical left has waged an

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<v Speaker 5>all out campaign to erase the very concept of biological

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<v Speaker 5>sex and replace it with a militant transgender ideology. You've

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<v Speaker 5>heard a little bit about this, haven't you anna just

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit? Does anybody agree with them?

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<v Speaker 4>It would be not a good.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing to say yes. Radio female athletes have been forced

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<v Speaker 5>onto the front lines, and men claiming to be girls

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<v Speaker 5>have stolen more than three thousand, five hundred victories that's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot, and invaded more than eleven thousand competitions designed

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<v Speaker 5>for women.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming on what now for women's sport? Don't forget. We're

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<v Speaker 1>dot com dot a U. That's the Australian p l

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<v Speaker 1>US dot com dot a U. The other case that

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<v Speaker 1>many people would remember is the swimmer Leah Thomas, someone

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<v Speaker 1>who has gone through mal puberty but who is a

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<v Speaker 1>trans woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas wins the NCAA Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Hated a very tell me about the Lea Thomas case.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was that so controversial?

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<v Speaker 4>It was controversial because Leah Thomas was actually a member

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<v Speaker 4>of the University of Pennsylvania's men's swim team for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time, and she then went on to transition to

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<v Speaker 4>become a woman, and in March twenty twenty two she

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<v Speaker 4>won an nc double A first division title in freestyle,

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<v Speaker 4>and she also did this incredible interview with Sports Illustrated

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<v Speaker 4>where she said she wanted to swim at the parents'

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<v Speaker 4>Olympic Games and from that it triggered change. It really

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<v Speaker 4>set world aquatics into a bit of a spin about

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<v Speaker 4>what to do around their policies and what happened in

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<v Speaker 4>the end that World Aquatics made the decision to effectively

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<v Speaker 4>ban trans women from competing in female categories at an

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<v Speaker 4>Olympic and world level.

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<v Speaker 1>That's at World swimming at odds with the International Olympic Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>which was more open to including trans athletes in women's competitions.

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<v Speaker 1>You cover a lot of sports, Jess, from athletics to

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<v Speaker 1>rugby league to sports like swimming. What do you hear

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<v Speaker 1>from athletes female athletes about what they want to happen

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<v Speaker 1>in relation to this issue.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they want a fair playing field. I think

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<v Speaker 4>women have had to fight very hard for attention in

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<v Speaker 4>this space, to be treated fairly, to get adequate training facilities.

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<v Speaker 4>Even to this day, you look at say female football clubs,

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<v Speaker 4>women are using the gym after the men have done

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<v Speaker 4>their time in the gym. They're always second to the

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<v Speaker 4>men's teams. It's never really even because it hasn't been

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<v Speaker 4>a level playing field yet. What they're saying privately is

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<v Speaker 4>that many female athletes are outraged that this has been allowed.

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<v Speaker 4>It's created a huge debate and a lot of stress

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<v Speaker 4>for women at times. But they've also been very afraid

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<v Speaker 4>of publicly saying so, like it is deemed to be

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<v Speaker 4>stepping out of line or not being seen as being

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<v Speaker 4>accepting of all people if you push back against elite

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<v Speaker 4>female trans athletes. A lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Institutions have had to deal with the the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>people want to change gender, the military, the criminal justice system, education,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's really sport where it's the most visible and

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<v Speaker 1>where some people like Martina and Evradelover have spoken out

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<v Speaker 1>very publicly. How do you think sport has handled it

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<v Speaker 1>and what difference will it make that Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>now being so very clear and forceful about imposing his view.

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<v Speaker 4>I think hopefully it will bring sporting bodies into line

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<v Speaker 4>with what should be, especially at an elite level, just

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<v Speaker 4>really fair. I think once you get to that elite level,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not about feelings anymore. You're seeing a new generation

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<v Speaker 4>of leaders rise. The people lighting up to replace Olympic

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<v Speaker 4>President Thomas Bark. The likes of Christi Coventry and Sebastian

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<v Speaker 4>co are two figures in world sport who are really

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<v Speaker 4>making it clear that they're going to push back against

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<v Speaker 4>trans women competing in the elite female sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica Hallerin is The Australian's chief sports writer. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get your head around the first weeks of the new

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration. Anytime at the Australian dot com dot au