Speaker 1: From the sky News Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Cherry, you're the best. Of course, it was
Speaker 1: a big night last night. Thank you to everyone who
Speaker 1: turned up, everyone who watched. And don't forget we've got
Speaker 1: that big announcement today that the leaders will be going
Speaker 1: head to head on this channel first place during the election.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, sky News it always delivers during an election,
Speaker 1: always lifts. This is what we do best. We've got
Speaker 1: lots to get to tonight. You can always set me
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Speaker 1: But I want to focus, as always the start of
Speaker 1: the show on what should be a little bit higher
Speaker 1: in the news, but it isn't because there's not as
Speaker 1: many people who live there. But there will be a
Speaker 1: consequence to the economy. But more importantly, there are our
Speaker 1: fellow Australians that are suffering right now. These floods that
Speaker 1: are in and around Queensland. They are mega, they are
Speaker 1: absolutely mega. The area of this thing is now apparently
Speaker 1: the best part of three thousand kilometers. It is the
Speaker 1: size of Victoria and then some. This thing is huge
Speaker 1: and there are huge communities in the trees that are
Speaker 1: being affected. As we speak. Here's the latest from sky
Speaker 1: News Weather Now.
Speaker 2: Major flood warnings are current for the river catchments shaded
Speaker 2: in red. This still includes the Baku, Thompson and Cooper
Speaker 2: Creek river catchments, the Blu River, and the Paru River.
Speaker 2: There are concerns of overnight major flooding occurring along the
Speaker 2: Thompson River at the long Reach.
Speaker 1: As for the locals, here's the mayor, a.
Speaker 3: Lot of helicopters in the area and they're trying to
Speaker 3: assess stock losses. We have fodder available to drop, but
Speaker 3: you have to find a dry area, you know, to
Speaker 3: drop the fodder for the stock. So it's very difficult.
Speaker 1: And about that about one hundred thousand head may well
Speaker 1: have been drowned or are missing right now as a
Speaker 1: result of these floods. There is a serious consequence to
Speaker 1: our food supply when that mini die or go missing.
Speaker 1: This thing is absolutely huge. A local vet was talking
Speaker 1: to us a bit earlier today about this.
Speaker 4: Very We think that there's been at least ten thousand
Speaker 4: cattle lost. Individual farms we think have losses anywhere from
Speaker 4: fifty to ninety percent. The occasional farm has lost every
Speaker 4: single animal on their place, all cattle and horses.
Speaker 1: Are gone, absolutely terrible. This is not just about those livestock,
Speaker 1: but is of course about their businesses, their farms. People
Speaker 1: may well have been just holding on to be wiped
Speaker 1: out like this. It is a massive, massive story and
Speaker 1: there's a huge number of Australians who really are doing
Speaker 1: it tough right now. The information that we are getting
Speaker 1: is sadly more rain to come over the next couple
Speaker 1: of days. Why because of course the former extropical cyclone,
Speaker 1: well it was coming in from the east. This one
Speaker 1: is coming in from the west.
Speaker 2: Widespread rain of accumulations over the next twenty four hours
Speaker 2: look to broadly exceed at twenty five to fifty millimeters,
Speaker 2: so this could result in some renewed river rises in
Speaker 2: the state's west. There are growing concerns though, that other
Speaker 2: areas could see flooding. Therefore, flood watches are now current
Speaker 2: for southern Inland and southeast coastal rivers of Queensland.
Speaker 1: Now, as I love to say, humans are awesome and
Speaker 1: there are stories of incredible things that have taken place
Speaker 1: as a result of this as people to help each
Speaker 1: other out. Now there is an organization that we actually
Speaker 1: spend some time with on Saturday in Toowoomba, and that
Speaker 1: is Life Flight. These are people who go deep into
Speaker 1: the bush to pick people up off the side of
Speaker 1: the roads to bring people in from their properties. It's
Speaker 1: basically sort of like a floating emergency room and they
Speaker 1: had been involved in many a rescue, including this one
Speaker 1: that was in the newspapers today that a man was
Speaker 1: lost for two days in floodwater in western Queensland. His
Speaker 1: four wheel drive became bogged and he's been dramatically rescued
Speaker 1: after building himself a makeshift shelter and he wrote the
Speaker 1: word help in the mud with a stick. Think about that.
Speaker 1: He was found after walking sixty kilometers by cattle and
Speaker 1: goat farmers who were checking their stock and their fences.
Speaker 1: They saw his scrawled plea and an arrow pointing rescuers
Speaker 1: in his direction on a muddy road at the end
Speaker 1: of their driveway. Life Flight Rescue helicopter service, which was
Speaker 1: on standby in Charlaville for flood evacuations, then launched a
Speaker 1: search and rescue mission for the man after he failed
Speaker 1: to arrive home last Friday night. This was by the
Speaker 1: way that structure that he was under for a couple
Speaker 1: of days sixty kilometers worth of walking that he had
Speaker 1: done very weak, and thankfully because of that aerial support,
Speaker 1: and thankfully because the farmers were out checking their own land.
Speaker 1: He is alive and with us today. Good stuff. Now
Speaker 1: I've got to call out a prime minister. The Prime
Speaker 1: Minister today spent a bit of time in Perth, spent
Speaker 1: a bit of time in South Australia. Couldn't be bothered
Speaker 1: going to any of these communities. It is a disgrace
Speaker 1: that the so called leader of the nation, whom windlows
Speaker 1: or draw will stand there on election night and say
Speaker 1: I've been a Prime minister for all Australians is ignoring
Speaker 1: the very people who are in the middle of this situation.
Speaker 1: More rain in some parts has been recorded as a
Speaker 1: result of this flood event than the one that he
Speaker 1: was running around in that being tropical Cyclone Alfred. You
Speaker 1: can't help but conclude that the reason that it is
Speaker 1: nowhere near it is because there's no votes in it,
Speaker 1: because there's no rolling coverage like there was when it
Speaker 1: was a more populous area in the southeast of Queensland.
Speaker 1: But he is the prime minister. He has the biggest
Speaker 1: microphone in the country and he has a traveling press
Speaker 1: pack with him. Prime Minister, if you truly seek to
Speaker 1: be a leader for all Australians, get off your ass
Speaker 1: and go to this part of Queensland. I know the
Speaker 1: plan is to pretend that it doesn't exist because it's
Speaker 1: good old fashioned National or LNP or Catta country, but
Speaker 1: it's all Australia. This will have way more of an
Speaker 1: effect on a federal budget than what happened in the southeast.
Speaker 1: But of course all of that was just a way
Speaker 1: of changing the subject and I've got plenty more to
Speaker 1: say about that. But it's a disgrace that he has
Speaker 1: not been there yet. If it was any other Prime minister,
Speaker 1: and this sort of situation was happening a little closer
Speaker 1: to town where we all know how the usual suspects will
Speaker 1: be going ballistic. Thankfully, Peter Dudden, he went yesterday thirty
Speaker 1: two days to go until Australia gets the chance to
Speaker 1: choose its next government. Do we get more of the
Speaker 1: same or is it time to get the joint back
Speaker 1: on track? As the opposition leader would say, that is
Speaker 1: thirty two days to go, twenty one days until the
Speaker 1: very first votes are cast, three weeks away. From early voting.
Speaker 1: This is of course, where more than half of all
Speaker 1: people will vote. So essentially there are two campaigns. There's
Speaker 1: the one before and then the one that leads up
Speaker 1: to election day. Today. Peter Dudden fresh from that pub
Speaker 1: test last night, and you could see that he was
Speaker 1: pumped up not just by his family but by people
Speaker 1: who were keen for him to defeat one of the
Speaker 1: worst prime ministers of all time. He's got a pretty
Speaker 1: simple message to those that are doubting what his future
Speaker 1: is in the next five weeks. Well, I don't think
Speaker 1: you've said anything yet.
Speaker 5: I think wait until we get into this campaign and
Speaker 5: you see more of what we've got to offer.
Speaker 1: Albo, more of the same, the money can going off.
Speaker 1: These are all the promises money wise he's made since January.
Speaker 6: A seven point two billion dollar announcement today five million dollars,
Speaker 6: ten million dollars, two hundred million dollars, three billion dollars,
Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty million dollars, two billion dollars, thirty
Speaker 6: seven million dollars, eight hundred and forty two million dollar,
Speaker 6: two point four billion dollars, eight point five billion dollar,
Speaker 6: four point eight billion dollar, one billion dollars three point
Speaker 6: four billion dollars, two point eight billion dollars, two hundred
Speaker 6: million dollar, one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Now, this bloke's getting cocky. He thinks that everything's rolling
Speaker 1: his way. He thinks the budget was amazing. I'll burst
Speaker 1: that bubble for him in a second. And here he
Speaker 1: was dialing it up to eleven with the press today.
Speaker 6: Seamless segue from global politics to the suburban roller. People
Speaker 6: will vote in an election, all right.
Speaker 1: Longer version of State of the Race with a special
Speaker 1: guest with us tonight, Stephen Conroy, Michael Kroger. They won't
Speaker 1: hold back, no gloves, no politeness. They'll go as hard
Speaker 1: as possible. Team Read versus Team Blue. A little bit
Speaker 1: later in the night, now, I want to tell you
Speaker 1: something that's a bit of a behind the scene. It's
Speaker 1: about what took place last night. And again I think
Speaker 1: the opposition leader for being there. I thank all of
Speaker 1: those people for turning up, I thank everyone for watching.
Speaker 1: But I want to tell you a little bit about,
Speaker 1: as I say, the behind the scenes. Thank you again
Speaker 1: to the Kamiski family and the Eaton's Hill Hotel. We
Speaker 1: love that venue and we love Queensland. You know it's
Speaker 1: my spiritual home. I thought Peter Dunton did pretty well.
Speaker 1: Why because he wasn't getting the glaring faces of the
Speaker 1: people who hate him in the rest of the media,
Speaker 1: who was looking at people, including his family, who want
Speaker 1: him to do well.
Speaker 5: The Labor Party has failed our country over the last
Speaker 5: three years, reduced the fuel tax by twenty five cents
Speaker 5: a leader, the Prime Minister at the moment. Why'd tell
Speaker 5: you this, but the bulk billing rate in our country
Speaker 5: is at seventy seven percent. Harry'll be embarrassed hear me
Speaker 5: call him out. But Harry has just gone into his
Speaker 5: second year of apprenticeship as a carpenter. He's got a
Speaker 5: boost in his pay which means he can start to
Speaker 5: pay some board at home as well.
Speaker 1: He's a good plaq. He really is his father as well.
Speaker 1: All right. There was not much media coverage of what
Speaker 1: we did last night, and that's not me speaking from ego.
Speaker 1: It's just interesting because all of the media was there.
Speaker 1: In fact, there was, of course the live blog which
Speaker 1: is at Sky News. You would expect that there was
Speaker 1: the focus on the joke about the sun that was
Speaker 1: the angle Thattnews Dot com dot Au took but essentially
Speaker 1: that was it. Now again, did I expect it to
Speaker 1: become rolling coverage, lead news the main thing. They'd open
Speaker 1: Sunrise or The Today Show with no But all of
Speaker 1: the media organizations were at the pub last night. They
Speaker 1: were there, they saw what was taking place, and an
Speaker 1: actual fact, there was a little bit of push and
Speaker 1: shove from some of those media types. Now put simply,
Speaker 1: the pub last night was effectively our television studio. And
Speaker 1: in the same way that I wouldn't expect if I
Speaker 1: sat here and interviewed Peter Dutton in the man cave
Speaker 1: for cameras for seven, nine, ten to two photographers from
Speaker 1: The Guardian to be standing on the other side of
Speaker 1: the camera. Just wouldn't work like that, as we wouldn't
Speaker 1: expect the Sky News cameras to go barreling onto the
Speaker 1: set of the Today Show or ABC News Breakfast. But
Speaker 1: the decision was made by the Peter Dutton team to
Speaker 1: make sure that those people could come and could observe.
Speaker 1: And again I don't have a problem with them coming
Speaker 1: and observing, but they decided to just well some of
Speaker 1: them just gate crash parts of the event. Now, all
Speaker 1: of the stuff was being covered by our cameras that
Speaker 1: had been set up all day, with everything planned by
Speaker 1: an excellent team who put together all of our outside broadcasts.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, they wanted to get their own footage.
Speaker 1: They originally wanted to have their own cameras where we
Speaker 1: all know what type of footage they'd be getting. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't be anyone who was talking. They'd just be looking
Speaker 1: for somebody yawning or something like that. But they set
Speaker 1: themselves up in a sort of unplanned way to capture
Speaker 1: the alternative Prime Minister and his family walking in. But again,
Speaker 1: that footage really never went anywhere. You see, the reality
Speaker 1: of why the press was there is because they were
Speaker 1: there for only two reasons. They wanted a protester or
Speaker 1: they wanted him to stuff up, neither of which took place.
Speaker 1: One because Peter Dutton was on his game and two
Speaker 1: because we are smarted the loons that have caused trouble
Speaker 1: in the past. And amazingly, again they were there, they
Speaker 1: watched it, and none of them decided to include his
Speaker 1: performance because that would be considered positive. How dare they
Speaker 1: show a moment of levity? But of course if it's
Speaker 1: over on Channel two or if it's on their own networks,
Speaker 1: it'll be front and center. Again, I don't talk about
Speaker 1: this because I want everyone and all eyes on me.
Speaker 1: It's just every news organization was there, yet very few
Speaker 1: decided to report on it. But I guarantee if there
Speaker 1: was a protest, you would have seen the photo. I
Speaker 1: guarantee if he had stuffed up or sworn, somebody had
Speaker 1: yelled at him, you would have seen those grabs on TV.
Speaker 1: And it's a bit of an insight into the traveling
Speaker 1: media pack. As you see with Anthony Albernezi, it's all
Speaker 1: laughs and jokes because, as I've said, they like the
Speaker 1: arrangement as it currently is. Much of the media does
Speaker 1: not want a change in arrangements. So imagine their faces
Speaker 1: looking back at Peter Dutton whenever he makes an announcement,
Speaker 1: or of course, even if he makes an announcement or
Speaker 1: has a good night like last night, quickly changed the
Speaker 1: subject back to made up outrages. That's why they have
Speaker 1: to go around that camera collective and come to programs
Speaker 1: like this to speak directly to you, for you to
Speaker 1: be able to see the videos, for you to be
Speaker 1: able to share them, and all of them are up
Speaker 1: now it's going news dot com, dot are you? And
Speaker 1: to further drive this point home and again, part of
Speaker 1: what I like to do during elections is not just
Speaker 1: talk about poles and we'll get into that and state
Speaker 1: of the race and team red and team blue, but
Speaker 1: talk about media games, talk about how they can choose
Speaker 1: to make one person look slightly better at the other
Speaker 1: person not so good. Now. Tim Lester is a reporter
Speaker 1: with Channel seven. By all reports, relatively fair, but of
Speaker 1: course he's reporting not just for TV but doing stuff
Speaker 1: for the internet as well, and he is what he
Speaker 1: said today about where the Liberal Party had chosen to
Speaker 1: do one of its media events and why it might
Speaker 1: make the six pm news.
Speaker 7: Where's the train? It's just a still paddock. The great
Speaker 7: hidden battle of the election campaign is the picture opportunity.
Speaker 7: Pictures drive news. You get more time if you're a
Speaker 7: leader and you've got good pictures on the TV, news, online,
Speaker 7: on social media, in the newspapers.
Speaker 1: With still pictures, you've.
Speaker 7: Got to get an interesting picture opportunity. Well, I reckon
Speaker 7: Anthony Alberizi so far is being beaten by Peter Dutton
Speaker 7: in terms of the picture opportunity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they are looking for the pictures to tell
Speaker 1: the story. We'll they had plenty pictures out a lot.
Speaker 1: It's not just not the ones they wanted, which were
Speaker 1: a protester or him stuffing up. These are the little
Speaker 1: choices that they make to go into the six pm news,
Speaker 1: and the six pm news isn't the only thing, but
Speaker 1: it's the big national thing that will feed into their
Speaker 1: breakfast shows, the afternoon news, the gag shows at night,
Speaker 1: and it's pretty obvious which way they play now. In
Speaker 1: fairness to Tim Lester, he says that so far in
Speaker 1: the election, pet It Dudn's been doing a better job
Speaker 1: of providing the pictures than Anthony Abernese. Even today was
Speaker 1: a chance for Anthony Aberneze to have a better day
Speaker 1: because they were standing in a paddock. What they were
Speaker 1: announcing was significant in that paddock. And because you probably
Speaker 1: didn't hear what that announcement was, this is what he
Speaker 1: was announcing in that paddock.
Speaker 7: Where's the train? It's just a still paddock. It's not
Speaker 7: what we need for a picture opportunity. So Anthony Alberzi,
Speaker 7: you're losing the battle, all right.
Speaker 1: What he was doing, of course, was announcing that he
Speaker 1: won't be putting money in the Sabin rail link instead
Speaker 1: biddings of dollars into our rail link which will connect
Speaker 1: to the north and to the south of the airport
Speaker 1: and back through to the city. Amazing stuff. And by
Speaker 1: the way, over on Channel nine tonight they're exclusive that
Speaker 1: they had documents that had been handed by the Labor
Speaker 1: Party directly to the reporter. Now, presumably this was a
Speaker 1: special exclusive that happened just before the news, but the
Speaker 1: special exclusive was modeling that showed that teams of thousands
Speaker 1: of people lose their job if nuclear power becomes the option.
Speaker 1: These are, of course the same people who used modeling
Speaker 1: to produce this lie at the last election about how
Speaker 1: much your power bills would be cut.
Speaker 6: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars
Speaker 6: two hundred and seventy five dollars a year. There'll be
Speaker 6: reduction for households of two hundred and seventy five dollars.
Speaker 1: Now, I said out as a person who dreamt of
Speaker 1: being able to one day work in the media. It
Speaker 1: was one of very few people whoever got the chance
Speaker 1: to do that. And I've seen it from all sides.
Speaker 1: I've been a radio reporter standing there holding the little
Speaker 1: microphone with the logo on the end of it. I've
Speaker 1: worked for FM radio, for AM Radio, I've done comedy
Speaker 1: shows on Triple M. I've done talk shows on TUE
Speaker 1: and TWOGB. I've seen it from lots of angles. I've
Speaker 1: talked about it on Breakfast TV way back when over
Speaker 1: on Channel seven, and I've spoken about it here for
Speaker 1: fifteen years. I know the little nuances of the way
Speaker 1: that they are spinning the ball, and they are going
Speaker 1: to spin as hard as possible. Remember, for the past
Speaker 1: two years they've been looking for a circuit breaker that
Speaker 1: got Anthony Abernezi back into the fight. At every opportunity
Speaker 1: they have given him the benefit of the doubt. And
Speaker 1: right now they will do their absolute best to make
Speaker 1: sure that one candidate looks better than the other. But
Speaker 1: moments like the pub test one hour uninterrupted, moments like
Speaker 1: the People's Forum next week one hour uninterrupted, mean you
Speaker 1: get to see these people with your own eyes, not
Speaker 1: through their lens. Now. But you didn't hear this about
Speaker 1: Labour's budget now, believe it or not, it's just a week.
Speaker 1: It's just a week since the Treasurer stood up and
Speaker 1: delivered the cost of living budget, but of course he
Speaker 1: didn't want to. There wasn't a lot of detail. They
Speaker 1: all expected they'd be already a couple of weeks into
Speaker 1: the election campaign by now, but because they were definitely
Speaker 1: not campaigning while campaigning in cycling now for it, while
Speaker 1: of course ignoring what's happening right now in regional Queensland. Well,
Speaker 1: of course they said that the focus just one week
Speaker 1: ago of the event that you can't remember was cost
Speaker 1: of living, because every pole, every time tells us it
Speaker 1: is one, two and three in terms of priorities of people.
Speaker 5: This budget is all about helping with the cost of living,
Speaker 5: cost of living.
Speaker 6: Hell, providing cost of living relief.
Speaker 1: The cost of living relief, cost of living relief and
Speaker 1: further to my previous points, the media of course wanting
Speaker 1: this to be a circuit breaker for a government that
Speaker 1: the polls have been up and down on over the
Speaker 1: past of the while more negative than positive over the
Speaker 1: past two years. Well they did the spinning for the government.
Speaker 8: The government will also ensure a million Australians avoid the
Speaker 8: full Medicare levees by increasing the threshold at which it's paid.
Speaker 8: It comes on top of a suite of cost of
Speaker 8: living measures.
Speaker 9: There's been an extension of the electricity subsidies, there's been
Speaker 9: measures to make drug prices cheaper through the PBS, and
Speaker 9: the increases in bolk billing.
Speaker 1: Well a pole came at today, not published by a
Speaker 1: far right wing think tank, but by the Turnbull Times,
Speaker 1: the Essential People. Now they find lots of different headlines
Speaker 1: to print, but you would think it would be somewhat
Speaker 1: relevant that an extreme majority of Australians were unimpressed by
Speaker 1: the federal budget just one week later. It's the reason
Speaker 1: why they don't talk about it anymore. But again the
Speaker 1: assumption of the national media is that you will be
Speaker 1: distracted by what they tell you is the priority of
Speaker 1: the day. We'll have a look at this. Sixty one
Speaker 1: percent of people in a poll in the Guardian, so
Speaker 1: that the budget won't or definitely won't substantially change or
Speaker 1: make any meaningful difference to the cost of living. When
Speaker 1: you break that down, by the way, by party supporters
Speaker 1: forty eight percent of Labor voters, so that the budget
Speaker 1: did not make a difference to cost of living, sixty
Speaker 1: seven of the Libs fifty two. But have a look
Speaker 1: at that number of everyone from the Victorian socialists, through
Speaker 1: the Tiffany Teels all the way to the Trumpeter patriots
Speaker 1: and our mates of one nation. Eighty percent. Now this
Speaker 1: is where apparently the majority of undecided voters are parking
Speaker 1: their vote in a poll. Eighty percent say the budget
Speaker 1: didn't make a difference. But of course you remember that
Speaker 1: the government says it and says it and says it,
Speaker 1: and then the media turns around and reports it and
Speaker 1: reports it and reports it. But just as it was
Speaker 1: after the last budget, is it is after this budget.
Speaker 1: What I told you on this show a week ago
Speaker 1: was bang on, which is not a way of polishing
Speaker 1: my own credentials, but saying, ignore the Canbra collective. The
Speaker 1: Camebra collective plays for one game, and one game only,
Speaker 1: and that's access. And if they think that there's a
Speaker 1: chance that the current mob is going to hold on,
Speaker 1: they won't rock the boat. If they think the current
Speaker 1: mob is on its way out, they do everything they
Speaker 1: can to throw them under the bus. So the Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: the Treasurer and all the rest of them might go
Speaker 1: on and on and on, and the media might repeat
Speaker 1: it over and over and over.
Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers says these changes will mean that by midnext year,
Speaker 2: average Australians will be hundreds of dollars better off. Everybody
Speaker 2: gets a tax cut.
Speaker 10: This is a pretty straight up and down sweetener.
Speaker 7: It's worth five hundred and thirty six dollars a year
Speaker 7: for the average worker.
Speaker 1: But while the road show moves on, Ozzie's have got
Speaker 1: a great BS detector. And when it comes to Alba
Speaker 1: and when it comes to Charmers, it goes off to
Speaker 1: eleven sixty one percent of people answering questions for the
Speaker 1: Essential Organization, which publishes in The Guardian, say that the
Speaker 1: budget no difference when it comes to their own sense
Speaker 1: of the cost of living, which means me again to
Speaker 1: more things in the polls that they probably don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about, because of course the narrative is Dunton's
Speaker 1: in trouble, elbows back. The swagger around Parliament House was
Speaker 1: we're going to get a majority again because five bucks
Speaker 1: in one year. That'll keep the idiots happy. The media
Speaker 1: keep playing for access, they're not going to rock the boat. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what the current narrative is in the media,
Speaker 1: and it's pretty much what I just said.
Speaker 11: Anthony Albanezi has seen a big jump in the polls,
Speaker 11: soaring upwards by seven points in the latest Resolve political
Speaker 11: monitor to Albanese now sets at forty two percent, while
Speaker 11: Opposition leader Peter Dutton has dropped to thirty three. Now
Speaker 11: a widened gap of nine points between the two leaders.
Speaker 7: Labours arehead fifty one forty nine. That's a reversal from
Speaker 7: just a couple of weeks ago, and as well, Peter
Speaker 7: Dutton has slipped in the better prime minister numbers from voters.
Speaker 7: Anthony ALBINIZI now comfortably ahead there.
Speaker 1: But of course just because they say it's the case
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that it is the case. And it's very
Speaker 1: interesting that the very people who are paid twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven. And I know I make a lot of
Speaker 1: enemies with this, but my loyalty is not to them.
Speaker 1: I don't play for the access of those in power.
Speaker 1: It's about you and me working our way through the spin,
Speaker 1: the garbage and the bs geez. I'd like to swear
Speaker 1: like I used to win the past, but you get
Speaker 1: my point right, trying to clean up the act. Well,
Speaker 1: the reality is that Peter Dudden had a good night
Speaker 1: last night. Peter Dudden performed well inside that pub test,
Speaker 1: but of course don't report it because that's positive news
Speaker 1: for him. Instead report that the Prime Minister is already
Speaker 1: trying to pump the tires and scare everyone that he's
Speaker 1: not running against Peter Dudden, he's not running against his
Speaker 1: own series of failures of the past three years. And
Speaker 1: I no, of course, he's running against Donald Trump. But
Speaker 1: isn't it amazing the very people who talk about the
Speaker 1: posts all the time and tell you the news of
Speaker 1: the polls each and every day can't be bothered to
Speaker 1: actually read the poles any deeper than the headline. Because
Speaker 1: if you have a look at the essential poll today again,
Speaker 1: in the Turble Times, there was all that stuff about
Speaker 1: the budget. None of them talked about it because they'd
Speaker 1: all done the sales job. You see. Don't admit that
Speaker 1: the sales job was wrong, because last year it was
Speaker 1: that the tax cuts were awesome. We knew they were
Speaker 1: twelve dollars for people earning forty thousand dollars, more than
Speaker 1: sixty percent of people now saying it didn't actually touch
Speaker 1: the sides. Yet that's what we knew. Well even further
Speaker 1: into these poles, same poles available today, freely available on internet,
Speaker 1: no special deal, no email you have to sign up
Speaker 1: to fifty two percent of people say that the country
Speaker 1: is headed in the wrong direction. I got this wrong.
Speaker 1: I apologize that the country is headed in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1: Just twenty percent say that it is on the right track,
Speaker 1: and undecided is sixteen. So I've got that the wrong
Speaker 1: way around in graphics. I apologize, but that was the pole.
Speaker 1: Fifty two percent of people say we are hited in
Speaker 1: the wrong direction. Oh and those who think the Prime
Speaker 1: minister's got that pep in his step got a bit
Speaker 1: of the swagger back that he deserves because you know
Speaker 1: he's getting a second term. More seats already drawing up
Speaker 1: the political kill list, as was reported by Sharry Markson
Speaker 1: for those who worked with him during tough times. The
Speaker 1: Resolve poll, yes, the one that has shown a change
Speaker 1: in preferred prime minister. But what about the overall ratings
Speaker 1: of the prime minister. Forty nine percent of people say
Speaker 1: poor very poor, thirty nine percent say good or very good.
Speaker 1: The restaurant decided. But even if you split those in half,
Speaker 1: guess what more than fifty percent of people would say
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister is doing a poor or very poor job.
Speaker 1: Don't talk about it, pretend that Dunton didn't have a
Speaker 1: good night last night. Don't rock the boat, show the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister holding up the Medicare card despite the fact
Speaker 1: that there's more money being spent by the coalition. Pretend
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is the story. Not see how the
Speaker 1: game gets played again. I don't have special access all
Speaker 1: of these poles, all all this information is publicly available.
Speaker 1: But because they want the headline to tell the story,
Speaker 1: or they can't be asked reading the detail because it
Speaker 1: doesn't serve the overall narrative of elbows back, then they
Speaker 1: are deliberately hiding the true picture from you. Why I
Speaker 1: don't understand. Oh yeah, and on the same websitees freely available,
Speaker 1: and even in the very newspapers that print on news organizations.
Speaker 1: I say, it's not just papers anymore. There are comments
Speaker 1: from people to the polsters that they don't report, like
Speaker 1: about Anthony Ambernezi and almost half the country thinking he's
Speaker 1: doing the wrong job, more than half the country thinking
Speaker 1: we're headed in the wrong direction. He's like an immature child.
Speaker 1: He gets all angry when he gets a question he
Speaker 1: doesn't like. Pathetic. We're all going to have to pay
Speaker 1: for the tax cut with interest, but it won't even
Speaker 1: buy a coffee. He's not doing anything. The world is
Speaker 1: changing every day and he's sitting on his hands. He
Speaker 1: doesn't keep his election promises, like on energy, So what's
Speaker 1: the point. Small business has been bled dry by him.
Speaker 1: It's just layer and layer of cost and red tape.
Speaker 1: And again, I bet you didn't see this in all
Speaker 1: I mean think about all the time that there is
Speaker 1: to talk about Australian federal politics, even on the six
Speaker 1: pm news, let alone all the other forums. I bet
Speaker 1: you didn't see this that the Labor Party's primary vote
Speaker 1: is still below where it was at the last election.
Speaker 1: The change of fifty one to forty nine is all
Speaker 1: about people guessing what's going to happen with preferences now.
Speaker 1: The Liberal vote not much different than the last election either.
Speaker 1: But what is very different than the last election is
Speaker 1: the one nation Number one nation's up by four points.
Speaker 1: Pauline Hansen has said if if O one nation preference
Speaker 1: the LNP, that will matter not just in queens Land
Speaker 1: but in lots of states where one nation does a
Speaker 1: whole lot better. Oh yeah, and you know how they
Speaker 1: always say it's the Liberal Party that has a problem
Speaker 1: with women have a look at this. The primary vote
Speaker 1: of the Labor Party is higher with men than women,
Speaker 1: when the Liberal National Party their vote is higher with
Speaker 1: women than the Labor vote. Yes, the Greens do better
Speaker 1: with women, as do One Nation, and it's dead level
Speaker 1: when it comes to independence. But again, no one's going
Speaker 1: to be talking about that, are they, because it disturbs
Speaker 1: the narrative, and I hope it. Saw Peter Credline earlier
Speaker 1: today who did an excellent job of pointing out a
Speaker 1: bit of history here about where the polls were at
Speaker 1: the start of that twenty ten election, where they were
Speaker 1: at the start of that twenty nineteen election, and they
Speaker 1: are even wider rangers than what we're dealing with right
Speaker 1: now about fifty one forty nine or the other way around.
Speaker 1: The media think they shape the election. The media think
Speaker 1: they are at their most powerful when they can do
Speaker 1: their bit for a government that in return will give
Speaker 1: them an inside track not just on how the Labor
Speaker 1: Party's doing when it comes to this election, but why
Speaker 1: would anyone believe modeling that is handed to you five
Speaker 1: minutes before a news bulletin about opposition policy. No, and
Speaker 1: this is the same people who lied about the energy stuff.
Speaker 1: Now I get it. Daniel Andrews, Anastasia Palachet and Anthony
Speaker 1: Alberaneze will also who cares you win an election? All
Speaker 1: that matters is winning well. The reality is people remember
Speaker 1: how you win. Remember Paul Keating was dead in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety six because of how he won in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: And Albou might think that he's got the inside track
Speaker 1: right now, but there are a very very very many
Speaker 1: weeks and many events, and they may think, let's get
Speaker 1: the debates out of the way early. The fundamentals, the fundamentals,
Speaker 1: to repeat what Peter said earlier tonight, have not changed
Speaker 1: cost of living number one. The government has not done
Speaker 1: enough to change it. And even a survey in left
Speaker 1: leaning newspapers is telling us that one other thing I
Speaker 1: have to mention here, which is the shadow of Trump.
Speaker 1: Now you know I've got the red hat. Listen to
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon at the blow. I'm a big fan, all right,
Speaker 1: but let's not muck around. The next couple of days
Speaker 1: are going to be rough. If he decides to throw
Speaker 1: a tariff our way, we're going to be in a
Speaker 1: world of trouble. Now, how both thought the initial way
Speaker 1: to deal with Donald Trump was to suck up to him.
Speaker 6: This morning, I had a constructive call with President Trump
Speaker 6: just under forty minutes, and we had a good discussion
Speaker 6: about the relationship between our two great nations. We've been
Speaker 6: working calmly and methodically and diplomatically as.
Speaker 1: We do, but we all know what he really thinks
Speaker 1: of him.
Speaker 6: We have an alliance with the US. We're going to
Speaker 6: deal with him, but that doesn't mean that you're uncritical
Speaker 6: about it. He's scared atad of me, and I think
Speaker 6: it's of some concern that the leader of the free
Speaker 6: world thinks that you can conduct politics through one hundred
Speaker 6: and forty characters on Twitter.
Speaker 1: In the next twenty four hours, we will know whether
Speaker 1: Australia and what industries in Australia may well end up
Speaker 1: getting a tariff, whether we will or won't get an exemption.
Speaker 1: They have said friend and foe, so presumably as the
Speaker 1: friends of the United States will still cop one today
Speaker 1: in preparation for it. There was a couple of words
Speaker 1: from the President, but I was distracted by Kid Rock
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: President Trump, would you ever worry a jacket like that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was thinking about doing it for tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We have a big event coming up and I was
Speaker 1: thinking about doing it. So we'll all find out what's
Speaker 1: going to happen. But the one thing absolutely that Albo
Speaker 1: is hoping for the most, that the media will fall
Speaker 1: for the greatest, is that Donald Trump becomes the X
Speaker 1: factor in and around this election, that somehow the political
Speaker 1: fortunes of Anthony Abernezi shoots through the roof because he
Speaker 1: will be in an adversarial position to Donald Trump. We
Speaker 1: will all find out now. For the record, of course,
Speaker 1: I think tariff's against our country are ridiculous. Of course
Speaker 1: they are unjustified, firstly because we import more from America
Speaker 1: than we export to America. And last time I checked,
Speaker 1: we just put eight hundred million dollars in their pocket
Speaker 1: when it comes to this orcus stuff. But they may
Speaker 1: well be big tariff news that happens by this time tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Already every single minister tries to find some way to
Speaker 1: reference Trump, some way to pretend that they are running
Speaker 1: both equally against Peter Darden but also against Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: But are reminded of those of us that are Trump fans,
Speaker 1: that we are the minority in Australia. In fact, today
Speaker 1: there was some reporting again in the Channel nine newspapers
Speaker 1: and via their websites that was kind of shocking. And
Speaker 1: this was firstly about people's view about the presidential election.
Speaker 1: This came out today, but of course it is about
Speaker 1: what happened in November of last year, which is Donald
Speaker 1: Trump was elected. Is a good or a bad outcome
Speaker 1: for Australia. Sixty percent of people say a bad outcome.
Speaker 1: Labor voters seventy percent, forty nine percent of Coalition voters,
Speaker 1: sixty three percent of other voters, and in marginal seats
Speaker 1: fifty eight percent of people say him being the president
Speaker 1: is bad for Australia. There's also a whole series of
Speaker 1: issue by issue here where sixty percent sorry forty six
Speaker 1: percent of people say that Australia should pursue closer relations
Speaker 1: with other countries, including China, over the United States, that
Speaker 1: Australia should support Ukraine, whether that means troops or not
Speaker 1: sixty percent. And what about this threats to Australia. Thirty
Speaker 1: one percent of people say China is the biggest threat
Speaker 1: to Australia over the next few years. Seventeen percent of
Speaker 1: people say the United States what about thirty eight percent
Speaker 1: of people saying all equally. That is frightening. Now, yes,
Speaker 1: taraffs make us all uncomfortable, But if you think the
Speaker 1: United States, not China, is the problem, this is frightening
Speaker 1: to see twenty six percent of labor voters say the US.
Speaker 1: That's more than the twenty two percent who say China.
Speaker 1: The uncommitted voters twenty five percent say China. Thirteen percent
Speaker 1: of the United States and in the marginal seats thankfully
Speaker 1: they see China as the threat. But overall there are
Speaker 1: Australians amongst US who think the US, that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is more of a danger than what the CCP is doing.
Speaker 1: I remind you right now in this country, the Chinese
Speaker 1: have a boat that's floating along the south of Australia.
Speaker 1: What it is doing it is mapping the cables. As
Speaker 1: Andrew Bolt has shown you in the past couple of days.
Speaker 1: Inside that boat there could be a little submarine with
Speaker 1: the capacity to be able to cut one of those cables.
Speaker 1: Those are the cables that connect us to the rest
Speaker 1: of the world. Oh but Donald Trump's the threat. Albout
Speaker 1: desperately wants every day of the campaign not to be
Speaker 1: about him. What he promised three years ago, and how
Speaker 1: he has failed for the past three years. The media
Speaker 1: playing for access, wanting to change your subject and not
Speaker 1: allowing Dutton to get at a first gear will do
Speaker 1: everything they can to give him what he wants, but
Speaker 1: of course they can't control you, how you vote and
Speaker 1: most importantly who your preference, because that really matters. Quick
Speaker 1: break back with more State of the Race special version
Speaker 1: Kroger versus Conroy, No holds barred ding Dan. Let's get
Speaker 1: into it. Oh, let's get ready. Heavyweights, no gloves, no mouthguards,
Speaker 1: and all low blows are acceptable. None other than the
Speaker 1: wonderful Stephen Conroy normally hit help on a Wednesday. He's
Speaker 1: fighting on a Tuesday. Michael Kroger says, whatever, Pal, I've
Speaker 1: dusted this bloke off before. Let's see what happens again.
Speaker 1: Lad's love you to see you both.
Speaker 10: Parent and Paul. We've carried Conry for years.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's get into autis.
Speaker 10: Try to make him look good.
Speaker 1: All right now, in a second, I'm going to go
Speaker 1: through lists of seats that you're interested in all the
Speaker 1: rest of it. Let's talk five weeks out, four and
Speaker 1: a bit weeks out about the state of play and
Speaker 1: about where you honestly think things to be. You can
Speaker 1: take or leave what I just said at the start
Speaker 1: there that perhaps, surprise surprise, the budget wasn't what they
Speaker 1: all thought it was one week ago, surprise surprise, just
Speaker 1: like it always is. But it didn't matter to the media.
Speaker 1: And even again, what the media did last night were
Speaker 1: the only reason they were at that thing with Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton was because they wanted a gaff or a protester.
Speaker 1: But if it's a good night, sh don't don't show
Speaker 1: any of it. Michael whiter than that start of the race?
Speaker 1: What do you feel right now?
Speaker 10: So, first of all, well done last night. I thought
Speaker 10: that was a brilliant piece of television and I thought
Speaker 10: Peter Dutton was superb and great job by you mate.
Speaker 10: What is the start of the race?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 10: So the state of race is this. Between the middle
Speaker 10: of February and the end of March, Peter Dutton lost ground.
Speaker 10: They had lost momentum. Carloms too sure in the last
Speaker 10: couple of days he's now picked up that momentum. Why
Speaker 10: because he's making big announcements. The momentum is now back
Speaker 10: with Dutton. This will take days and a week or
Speaker 10: so to figure into the polling. The momentum is now
Speaker 10: back with Peter Dutton. He looks more aggressive, more energized.
Speaker 10: You know, he's full of big announcements. On the other hand, Albow,
Speaker 10: who's not a good campaigner, seems very placid, almost sleepy.
Speaker 10: He's got to stop doing these Medicare announcements because people
Speaker 10: are thinking five days, you've had five announcements in front
Speaker 10: of the Medicare sign. People are saying to it, Malbow,
Speaker 10: Medicare is not under threat. It's not going to be gutted. Mate,
Speaker 10: get out and meet some real people, make some real announcements.
Speaker 10: But as I said the other week, mate, Albow's problem
Speaker 10: is there are so many topics he cannot go near.
Speaker 10: The only topics he can really go near a Medicare
Speaker 10: and Trump. He can't go near immigration, cost of living,
Speaker 10: power prices, Jewish community, crime, safety, housing, young people. The
Speaker 10: list goes on and on. He'll be a very short
Speaker 10: visit with the Victorian Premier to morrow, if she appears
Speaker 10: at all. Chris Bowen's disappeared. There's so much he can't do.
Speaker 10: So what does you do every day it's in front
Speaker 10: of the Medicare sign. He's been doing this for five days.
Speaker 10: He's got to stop this. People are saying, this guy's
Speaker 10: got nothing to announce. Well, so his problem is that
Speaker 10: doesn't have to be much in his locker. There seems
Speaker 10: to be a lot in Peter Dutton's locker, and the
Speaker 10: momentum is now back with Peter Dutton.
Speaker 1: It is interesting, by the way, when we talk about
Speaker 1: the leaders right South Australia, I think Melanowskus has an
Speaker 1: approval preferred premium eighty five percent, right, So he's hoping
Speaker 1: a little bit of Melanowskus dust falls his way. But
Speaker 1: in Victoria he wants to be as far away from
Speaker 1: justinto Allen as possible, and we know that Chrismins shows
Speaker 1: him up when he gets to New South Wales. But Stephen,
Speaker 1: we're not going to deny where the bookies are, where
Speaker 1: the poles are, all the rest of it. But the
Speaker 1: full picture of the polls and especially that failed the
Speaker 1: land when it comes to the budget is a little sober.
Speaker 1: Reminded all those people who were saying in around the
Speaker 1: corridors of Labor we're not just back, we could win
Speaker 1: ninety seats.
Speaker 12: Well, I think that's that's getting a little ambitious. I
Speaker 12: think I can't remember the last budgets delivered by the
Speaker 12: political party they've seen any significant bounce in the polling
Speaker 12: that's followed over the next couple of weeks. So I
Speaker 12: wasn't expecting this budget to be any different to the
Speaker 12: last ten or twelve. What has Michael mentioned a little bit,
Speaker 12: I mean agrew with Michael's analysis on substance, and I
Speaker 12: think at times in a parallel universe to Michael and
Speaker 12: some of his analysis of what's actually gone on in
Speaker 12: the campaign so far. Peter Dutton has had probably is worse.
Speaker 12: And I've admired his ability to keep the Liberal Party together.
Speaker 12: That is an incredible achievement in the first term after
Speaker 12: you lose, and.
Speaker 1: He's performed well.
Speaker 12: But about the last four weeks he's just had a
Speaker 12: few stumbles and fumbles and looks like he's a bit
Speaker 12: down on confidence.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 12: I think he will he'll come back during the campaigns
Speaker 12: to Michael's point, he will make some announcements and they
Speaker 12: will get him a little bit more traction. But I
Speaker 12: think it's undeniable to anybody observing that Peter Dutton's had
Speaker 12: a pretty.
Speaker 1: Rough four weeks.
Speaker 12: Albo Albo, who has been accused of as Michael just did,
Speaker 12: of being you know, looking like he's in retirement mode.
Speaker 12: Albow's actually had his best few weeks, coinciding with Dutton
Speaker 12: struggling a little bit.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 12: If you were asking what seat number would I pick today,
Speaker 12: I probably put Labor on seventy two, maybe seventy three,
Speaker 12: depending on a couple of seats are just too hard
Speaker 12: to call, which would mean they were form minority governments.
Speaker 12: So that's I know, we're going to talk about seats
Speaker 12: at length, and this will be the most complex election night.
Speaker 12: I mean, Tom Connell will be right across it, so
Speaker 12: to all your views out there, tune in. Tom Connell
Speaker 12: will be on top of this. I know other channels
Speaker 12: have got spookers, but watched Tom Connall on election night.
Speaker 12: He will be dissecting seats going in four or five
Speaker 12: different directions. And this is going to be a real
Speaker 12: challenge for those of us who FOLLOWUPOLO. It's not going
Speaker 12: to be a normal election night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bloody oath. And not to mention again the complexity
Speaker 1: all the way from North Queensland Tasmania. And we know,
Speaker 1: of course the game out west, which is that conversation
Speaker 1: about you know, if it's a relatively good nine, if
Speaker 1: things weren't as bad in Victoria, is it seventy seventy one,
Speaker 1: seventy two or the other way around all of that.
Speaker 1: Of course, we learn together, but let's also just be
Speaker 1: adults and have the adult conversation with everyone watching. What's
Speaker 1: the greatest worry you have for your side? Though, Stephen, Look, I.
Speaker 12: Think albow in the last campaign had a really bad
Speaker 12: first week. He was don off with COVID for a week,
Speaker 12: and then he built momentum after that, so he just
Speaker 12: needs to stay match fit. I think he's absolutely had
Speaker 12: a very good few days. I'm going to disagree strongly
Speaker 12: with Michael, so I think that this is an election
Speaker 12: campaign for the first time and probably five six seven
Speaker 12: election campaigns where the performance of the leaders during the
Speaker 12: campaign is going to be a critical factor. So we
Speaker 12: need our Bo to keep going like he's had so far,
Speaker 12: because that's been high quality, and he's looking like he's engaged,
Speaker 12: he's looking like he's got a little bit of passion,
Speaker 12: and I think he's come out of a blox, whereas
Speaker 12: I think Peter has just had a bit of a
Speaker 12: fumble in the blocks. I absolutely accept I think he'll
Speaker 12: he'll pick up and come through and those poles will tighten.
Speaker 12: I mean, any Labor voters out there, do not for
Speaker 12: a moment that complacent. The polls will tighten as they
Speaker 12: always do during the election campaign.
Speaker 1: Michael, you'll worry for your team.
Speaker 10: Look, my biggest fear is that labor will try and
Speaker 10: do Daniel Andrews, which is what Andrews did at the
Speaker 10: eighteen and twenty two state elections here in Victoria. He
Speaker 10: didn't care what effect it had on the budget. He
Speaker 10: just threw billions at suburban rail link and whatever else,
Speaker 10: plundered Victoria into an economic crisis. But he won the
Speaker 10: two elections. Now he's gone. He'll take just In Ellan
Speaker 10: down with him, but he's bankrupted Victoria. So the biggest
Speaker 10: worries that Albo says, Listen, I'm going to fall behind
Speaker 10: in the polls, which is about to I need to win.
Speaker 10: I'm not going to be labeled as the first prime
Speaker 10: minister in ninety years. Blah blah blah blah blah. I
Speaker 10: don't care what it costs. I'm going to bring dental
Speaker 10: into medicare, so across the nation, everyone's dental is covered
Speaker 10: by your Medicare card, to which people will say, Albo,
Speaker 10: that's going to cost tens of billions a year. You
Speaker 10: can't be serious. And he will just say I'm doing
Speaker 10: it anyway, or I'm doing it for everyone up to
Speaker 10: thirty or everyone over forty, or or something right, some big,
Speaker 10: outrageous economic policy, because more people will be keen on
Speaker 10: voting for that than are worried about the debt. So
Speaker 10: that's my biggest worry that he just basically says, so
Speaker 10: I'm going to blow the budget. I don't give a stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, the People's Forum it will be next Tuesday here
Speaker 1: on Sky News. So what a week that's been. We're
Speaker 1: a week ago. It's the budget. We had the pub
Speaker 1: test last night. People's Forum, the first and currently only
Speaker 1: confirmed a confrontation between the two leaders, not involving, of course,
Speaker 1: the smart arsery of the media, but normal people asking
Speaker 1: whatever they want. Karen Gilbert explains how it's all been
Speaker 1: put together and who will pick the audience.
Speaker 13: Sky News has secured the first leader's debate of campaign
Speaker 13: twenty twenty five, the Sky News Daily Telegraph People's Forum.
Speaker 13: It's going to be seven thirty pm Tuesday, April eight.
Speaker 13: Make sure you join us, will be live from Western Sydney.
Speaker 13: A key moment in the campaign, Anthony Alberizi head to
Speaker 13: head with Peter Dutton, the first time the two leaders
Speaker 13: will debate in this campaign. And well before people start voting.
Speaker 1: Now, lads, we'll go through seats. We'll talk about the
Speaker 1: Trump effect in a moment. But I wanted to tell
Speaker 1: you about my experience in the seat of Groom, which
Speaker 1: is the seat surrounding to Woomba. Guth Hamilton is their
Speaker 1: local MP. Good bloke, always been kind to us, did
Speaker 1: very well at the last election. But of course he's
Speaker 1: being hunted by a teal. This one thinks they're going
Speaker 1: to get him this time. They're out there telling all
Speaker 1: in Sundry it's a marginal seat. Someone might want to
Speaker 1: tell either the bookies or the modelers or the people
Speaker 1: actually know what they're talking about. Now. Of course, you
Speaker 1: blokes know there is a difference between a pub test,
Speaker 1: which is overtly political, and the outtown, which is the
Speaker 1: celebration of a local area. Okay, well, the first time
Speaker 1: we heard from this teal of Community Independent was of course,
Speaker 1: I think, only on Friday, right, because they demanded to
Speaker 1: be on the show. They thought this was a forum
Speaker 1: that was going to be delivered as a free kick
Speaker 1: to the liberal MP. The only problem was it was
Speaker 1: a celebration of to Woomba, so they decided to turn
Speaker 1: it into a thing. And this is sort of stalking,
Speaker 1: but I'll show it to you anyway.
Speaker 8: So grat we're trying to track down Paul Murray.
Speaker 1: It's a bit like the Scarlet Pimpernel.
Speaker 3: He's seeking here, we're seeking there, and we just.
Speaker 7: Need to put an independent point of view to it.
Speaker 8: One hundred percent agree with that independent point of view.
Speaker 2: So we try to track him down where we thought
Speaker 2: he'd be a jellatissimo.
Speaker 7: Yep. So let's try Harvey Norman where we've got a
Speaker 7: tip that he's out there.
Speaker 3: Here we go bring it on.
Speaker 1: Firstly, can't use a phone. Secondly, Gelasis was in the
Speaker 1: CBD of toa Womba and we were there for an hour.
Speaker 1: We were at having on them for two and a
Speaker 1: half hours, and she couldn't find us or Michael. She
Speaker 1: didn't want to find us and just wanted it to
Speaker 1: seem like we had somehow cut her out of what
Speaker 1: wasn't a political show. This is how the Teals play
Speaker 1: their game all the time.
Speaker 10: Mate, I've got to think that the Teal votes off
Speaker 10: a bit. I mean, it's nothing like the environment in
Speaker 10: twenty twenty two. Nothing like that environment. All the Teal
Speaker 10: issues of integrity, Commission, global warming, etc. Women's issues, none
Speaker 10: of those are playing in this election. The Teals had
Speaker 10: a couple of well publicized slip ups in the seat
Speaker 10: of Couyong, where I have to think it's hard for
Speaker 10: Manik Ryan to hold on now. I mean she's been
Speaker 10: favored all the way through because Teals normally increase their vote,
Speaker 10: but giving the disgusting, dirty, dirty campaign that the people
Speaker 10: around her are running to her husband, I think it's
Speaker 10: hard for her to it. I think it's hard for
Speaker 10: people to vote for my neck Ryan. And then you
Speaker 10: go to Bradfield where the Teal candidate in the hairdressing
Speaker 10: Saline made that horrific remark to that nine year old girl.
Speaker 10: You've got all these Teals that have voted with it,
Speaker 10: assigned that unrefunding letter, you know, profoundly ignorant, calling on
Speaker 10: the government. I've going to store funding to organization or
Speaker 10: riddle with terrorists, blah blah blah. Yeah, all right, I
Speaker 10: think the til votes off.
Speaker 1: Look, I know I'm feeding the trolls, but still that's
Speaker 1: the true story. They had a lot of time to
Speaker 1: find us, and they couldn't find us. And I'm hardly
Speaker 1: a needle in a haystack. All right, quick break back
Speaker 1: with more here on Paul Murray Live, the Seats that
Speaker 1: Matter and the specter of Trump War in a second.
Speaker 1: All right, boys, speed round time looking at the wrong camera.
Speaker 1: It's been a long day, a long day even't lost
Speaker 1: my laptop at the airport. Anyway, let's get back to it.
Speaker 1: Stephen Conroy is here. They're looking so it's easy for them.
Speaker 1: Just looks into one camera. I get confused by seven
Speaker 1: different ones that are here. All right, let's go through.
Speaker 1: You'll your target seats here. Let's do a speed round
Speaker 1: on this, Michael, for those that want to write things down.
Speaker 1: Obviously not to seat boy seat bedding, but give me
Speaker 1: an idea of what you're looking at.
Speaker 10: So I think Peter Dunnan's in front of fifteen seats.
Speaker 10: I've got him on seventy two, twelve of those of labor.
Speaker 10: So i've got albow one sixty six. I think it
Speaker 10: doesn't wins three in West Australia, one in South Australia,
Speaker 10: one of the Northern Territory, one in Tasmania, four in
Speaker 10: New South Wales, at least three in Victoria and two
Speaker 10: in Queensland. Victoria. I'm saying three, but I'm actually thinking
Speaker 10: it's quite a few more than that.
Speaker 12: But I You've been wrong so many times.
Speaker 10: I was wrong. I was wrong when Henry the eighth
Speaker 10: was King of England. The last time.
Speaker 1: All right, Steve and I got one minute.
Speaker 10: You say we're going to win six in Victoria, all right.
Speaker 1: Give me yours, mattos see you write this stuff down, yep.
Speaker 12: So in New South Wales you know these are possible,
Speaker 12: not guarantee, but possible. Labour losses could be Gilmore, Robinson, Patterson.
Speaker 12: Benelong's been redistributed by a tiny margin to a lib,
Speaker 12: so it technically falls into a loss. You've got Lyn Jarry,
Speaker 12: which Michael mentioned in West Australia, Tangny and Bullwinkle Tasmania Lions.
Speaker 12: Then in Victoria and I don't think it will be
Speaker 12: anything like this, but you can have McNamara, chisholm Aston
Speaker 12: mcure and Wills, Bruce Dunkley, Holt Hawk kore Anga mate,
Speaker 12: give you a long list which shows that victory by
Speaker 12: Elbows Victoria is the state that will determine its election.
Speaker 12: Possible Labour games sturt like Art Brisbane, Griffith Ryan and
Speaker 12: possibly Fouler from the independence in New South Wales. So
Speaker 12: you see Dunton's task to get it even past seventy
Speaker 12: becomes incredibly much more difficult if Labor wins two or
Speaker 12: three seats, because that means he's got to win four
Speaker 12: or six seats to match the ones that we've won.
Speaker 12: So it is a very very challenging night. I've said,
Speaker 12: watch Tom Connell. But this is still very much in
Speaker 12: the balance. There's a lot to play out in these
Speaker 12: four weeks.
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