WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 5 May 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:09.360 Welcome the Late Debate. Good evening and welcome to the program. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:11.920 I'm Caleb Bond with Liz Storer and filling in for 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.960 tonight James McPherson is Danika di Giorgio, who, of course 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.599 you can see as one half of Doneka and James 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.919 on a Sunday night, or two halves of Doaneka on 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.480 a Friday night. Of course, you know, we know the 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.440 coalition is stuffed at the moment here in this country, 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.800 but it's a different story over in the UK, where 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:35.440 Nigel Farage's Reform Party had an excellent result on the weekend. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.639 We'll tell you a bit more about that later on. 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.839 In the papers, some of the coalition's biggest donors, the 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.760 Liberal Party's biggest donors, are saying they may not ever 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.239 donate to the party again, what's that telling you? And 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.960 obviously you were watching our election coverage here on Sky 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.200 News on Saturday night, but one of the ABC Star 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.200 guests in its coverage has had some, let's say, rather 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.200 not so nice things to say about the program he 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.120 was part of. Will tidy his assessment a little bit later. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.840 But amongst all the other stuff that has happened in 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:07.880 this election and we'll get into some. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:09.480 Of it very shortly. 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.280 A story that you may have missed and one that 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.319 you may well be happy about. You're not getting text 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:19.759 messages from Hfong anymore from the Trumpet of Patriots telling 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.679 you which way to vote, getting about ten of them 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.959 a day, as we were, and you may well never 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.600 get them again, because Clive Palmer has said it's time 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.200 to hang up his hat. He says, after all this time. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.600 Of course, he started more than a decade ago, the 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.480 Palmer United Party, and then he started the United Australia Party, 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.959 which he for some reason de registered after the last election, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.240 even though he got a senator in Victoria, Ralph Babett. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.520 Then tried to re register it for this year and 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.160 couldn't do so, so he started the Trumpet of Patriots, 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:52.920 which by the way, pulled one point eighty five percent 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.040 of the national votes. All those millions of dollars that 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.880 Clive spent was basically a donation to the news media 0:01:58.920 --> 0:01:59.960 in the form of advertiser. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.040 Can we thank him for that because it's keeping us 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.120 in work? But he says it's time. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.280 To say goodbye. He says, I'm seventy one and I'm 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.919 getting too old for politics. I'd rather spend time helping 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.280 the tens of thousands that are homeless and hungry in 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.560 this country. That's why I've donated five million to food Bank. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:19.600 So it would seem. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:23.280 Finally it is cyanara from mister Palmer in this regard. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:27.040 And I talked about those text messages before, seventeen million 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:31.560 text messages Trumpet of Patriots sent out ten thousand complaints. 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.240 Palmer said they received about those and as I said before, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.320 they turned that into one point eight five percent of 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.120 the national vote. So I'm not sure that was the 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.480 greatest return on investment. And of course Sewell and Wrightson, 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.360 who we kept seeing in the advertisements saying you know 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.480 she'd be the next Prime Minister of Australia, she pulled 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.400 three point four percent in the seat of Hunter, so 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.880 a great success. It was againleause it seems he's finally 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.680 woken up and decided and maybe I shouldn't piss my 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:58.359 money up the wall. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.600 And I think this is sad. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.240 I like Clyve. 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:04.239 I love the love. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.240 That he has for this country because despite what you 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:12.360 think of him personally, he loves this country and that 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.079 is why he's happy to what it looks like on 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:20.320 the outside, squander tens of millions of dollars every time 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.400 we have a federal election. Because he believes in these 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:27.520 policies which many of us actually agree with, he simply 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.440 doesn't have everything else that it takes to get something 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:30.799 like this. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:31.760 Off the ground. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.320 But I'm sorry to see the back of him. I mean, 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.280 this is a guy who during all that COVID nonsense, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.840 he was very staunchly, adamantly against it all. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.440 And think what you will of hydroxy chloroquin. 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.840 My point about this is that this guy spend over 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:52.760 thirty million dollars importing a ton of it before the 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.160 TGA was like, where, we're actually not going to be 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.480 using this to treat COVID, but thanks anyway. How many 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.640 people do you know who would gladly do that? And 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.680 that was a donation. He was like, I'm doing this 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.400 off my own bat. I'm trying to help my country. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.960 This is something that I see as a solution. It 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.880 turned out not to be. But he's someone who believes 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.000 in what he believes in, and he's happy to put 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.360 his money where his mouth is. And yet now he's 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.200 talking about, you know what, I'm just going to go 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.400 the philanthropic route and help all the people who don't 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.640 have money and desperately need help in this country. That's 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.600 the heart of the guy, and that's why I. 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.880 Like the problem. The problem that I have with Clive 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:35.279 Palmer is he doesn't know when to stop with his advertising. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.320 I honestly feel like he thinks that we're all sitting 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.360 there and we get a text and he were like, yes, 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.800 it's the trumpet of patriots. Yes, thank goodness, thank you 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.800 for that message, when really we go, oh no, no, 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.159 not again, please spare us. And look, I do applaud 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.920 the guy for giving it a crack. He's tried, He's tried. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.479 He is a you know, like him, all owe them. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.120 He is actually a successful Australian businessman. You know, you 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.520 don't get to where you are, you don't get to 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.920 that position without having some successes. He knows what to do. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.719 But the problem is is he goes overboard and he 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.560 bombards us and that's what drives us nuts. And as 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:13.440 for Suellen Wrightsen, as you mentioned, Caleb dubbed Australia's next 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.560 Prime minister look good on the ambition was out look 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.640 the ambition. I applaud her for having the ambition. Okay, 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.920 but now the poor woman's had to delete all of 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.760 her social media, can't She's had enough. She doesn't want 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.440 to you know, obviously it's been very embarrassed. But look, 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.680 come on, the campaign overall was a full nightmare. It's 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.560 time to go, Clive. You've given it a crack. But 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:36.760 well done for bowing out. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.360 I think it gets me about it though, is obviously 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.880 last election he did get a seat in the Senate 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.839 in the form of Ralph but as I said before, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.159 then for some reason to register the party, and you 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:50.960 could argue that in twenty nineteen the preferences flowed in 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.640 a way from all that money he spent, you know, 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.240 teams of millions of dollars in order to help Morrison 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:58.359 get re elected. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.479 But what has he achieved this time? 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:02.960 Because I don't think he's got anything to show for 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.320 the money he spent this time. And that was always 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.080 the question is what does he actually want to do? 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.680 Because of course, you know, Trumpet and Patriots or United 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.520 Australia Party is never going to seriously get up. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.000 So what was the point of spending all this money. 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.400 I guess he figured if he could get another Ralph 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.880 for that into the Senate or anywhere for that matter. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:23.480 Then it'd be worth it. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.760 I love Senator Ralph Babet is an absolute wild card. 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.560 But when you look at the state of politics in 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.800 this country, the more wild cards we have the better. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.599 He's now on the sidelines being like, I'm glad the 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.760 Liberals lost the fake Conservatives. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.159 What were they going to do anyway? 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.000 And we do we need to see a radical revamp 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:48.200 of what was once the Conservative Party, and hopefully this 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.799 catastrophic loss for the Libs is going to give birth 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.920 to that revamp that's been a long time in coming 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.880 and unfortunately it's just taking this catastrophe to get there. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.160 Yeah, no, I agree with you, but I also do 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.960 think Clive Palmer provided an alternative that I think that 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.600 the Liberals should have provided. Indeed, because he was straight 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.560 to you know, the man. When he says something, he 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.880 says it, and that's what we needed in this country. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.240 So again like him, all owe him. He actually gave 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.880 a genuine alternative which we didn't see from the Liberal Party. 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.880 Indeed, while we're talking about all this election stuff and 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.040 we're going to get into more of than nitty gritty now, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.880 you have to feel bad for Peter Datknoan, amongst all 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.440 the other things that happened obviously, you know, the worst 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.720 result for the Coalition since the nineteen forties, since the 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.880 Coalition has existed. I believe he's lost his own seat 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.840 of Dixon. So after twenty four years in politics, he's 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.640 had to bow out of the entire game. And he 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.680 may well be glad of that because it means he 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.880 doesn't have to hang around and deal with all the 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.640 recriminations in the Liberal Party now. But to add insult 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.640 to injury, we found out today that Donald Trump, the 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.000 guy that he was linked to all through the campaign. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:07.040 You know, they kept saying what was a dogie? What 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.000 was the line that Jim Chalmers came out with the 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:11.960 dogie Dutton? 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:13.679 I think it was right. I mean that they worked 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:14.840 so hard the Labor. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:19.000 Party to link Peter Dutton to Donald Trump, and Donald 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.280 Trump doesn't even know the guy's name. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:23.400 Albanis. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.080 I'm very friendly with I haven't I don't know anything. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.040 About the election. He's been very very nice. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:29.240 To me, very respectful to me. 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.640 I have no idea who the other person is that 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:32.720 ran against. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.080 Him, And you know, we've had a very good relationship 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.560 I mean, the poor fella, How. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.079 Bad must you feel after they linked. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.120 Him so much to Trump and Trump? I don't even 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:43.800 know who he is. 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.160 Interesting though, that he says, there, you know, I've got 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:50.000 a great relationship with Alberans and they had a phone 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.600 call today, actually Alban Easy and Donald Trump. But he's 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.320 talking about how great the relationship with albo is and 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.360 he doesn't even know the guy who was apparently going 0:08:58.400 --> 0:08:59.560 to be Trump two point zero. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:00.800 Well, why would you? 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:05.200 Because I think Trump's people knew Albanezi was a sure win. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.599 So it's not like you're going to do any extensive 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.320 research on the potential other prime minister. 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.120 It was pretty obvious this was well. I always said anyway. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.319 I know a lot of people were hopeful that this 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.400 could be a liberal when but I kept telling you, 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.920 just come back to the electoral math. It doesn't matter 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.760 what the polls say, and it doesn't matter what the 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.480 liberals are promising. At the end of the day, the 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:31.200 electoral math was staunchly in favor of Labor, and in 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.040 my humble opinion, it wasn't a case of will Labor win? 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.440 It was only a case of buy how much? And 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.520 that is what we've seen take place ever since. But 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.559 how do you like this, because we've been slamming, just 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.880 like Dutton got slammed for being like, oh, copy paste 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.839 Trump and he's bringing all these Trumpian policies and that 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.000 his campaign did bend over backwards to try and be like, 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.480 oh no, no, no, that's not us, that's not who we are, that's. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:57.520 Not what we're trying to do. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.720 But at the same time, Alban Easy was being slammed 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.160 as having no relationship whatsoever with Trump. Just the other 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.959 week he was saying, Oh, I don't have Trump's phone number. 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.000 I don't even think he is a phone. No, we 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:14.520 don't speak whatsoever. Well, very different tune today. You would 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.760 have thought they've been mates for ages. Here he was 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.200 talking about what a wonderful phone call he'd just had 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.079 with the President of the United States. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.840 I had a very warm and positive conversation with President 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:33.280 Trump just a short while ago. We talked about her. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:40.000 Orcus and Tarifs will continue to engage. We will engage 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.120 with each other on a face to face basis at 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.600 some time in the future. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.080 Turns out they're the ones who have been best friends 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:49.760 all along. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:51.480 What a twit. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.280 Who would have thought? Who would have thought. You know 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.559 the funniest thing about this whole thing is that Anthony 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.839 Albaneze he couldn't actually get a call for Donald Trump 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.400 several months of course we had the tariff slapped on us. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.319 But suddenly, wow, what by some miracle, he manages to 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.679 actually get on the blower to Donald Trump. And while 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.240 all is forgiven, they're all suddenly best friends for life 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.160 and holding hands. And what does this prove? What does 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.920 this prove? Well, you had the Labor Party saying, oh, 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.400 we don't want cut and paste US policies. You had 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.320 the Greens calling Peter Dutton the t MoU Trump. You 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:25.600 had Jason Claire out there day in day out saying, oh, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.640 we've got to be very careful we don't import a 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.280 US based health system here in Australia. And all this 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.480 proves was that, well, actually, Donald Trump and Peter Dutton 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.320 had nothing to do with each other. Peter Dutton was 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.040 never a threat from the very beginning, never a threat. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.840 But I think it does open a broader conversation though 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:47.880 about the Liberal Party's policies here because the Libs they 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.400 went into the center, they went center left with their policies. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.640 So as a voter. You don't actually have any clear 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.800 distinction between the Labor Party and the Liberal Party. I 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.960 actually think that the Liberals should have been more like Trump. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.000 And I'm not necessarily saying by way of policy, but 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.160 I'm talking by way of decisiveness. If you're going to 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.000 put out a policy, you stick with it. Instead of course, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.280 they backflipped on their key policies and Peter Dutton at 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.560 the start of the campaign, you'll remember he was very firm. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:16.920 He said, I'm only going to stand in front of 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.800 one flag, the Australian flag. Australia Day is to be 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.679 celebrated on January twenty sixth. What is a woman? It's 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.080 an adult female. But towards the last couple of weeks 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.880 he hasn't been able to answer that they backpedaled on it. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:30.640 So if you're not going to provide a point of difference, 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.840 you're not going to bring the country with you. Well, no, 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.800 one day, you lose votes. And that is what Donald 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:35.520 Trump did well. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.319 And this is what really annoyed me about the way 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.080 the campaign was run for the Libs, because there was 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:46.200 always the problem that Dutton was apparently not likable. You know, 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.600 people didn't see Dutton as the kind of bloke they'd 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.400 want to have a beer with in the same way 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.200 they might Anthony Albanizi. 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.160 But you were never going to overcome that. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.679 I mean, unless you can change the way that Peter 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.840 Dutton presents in front of a camera, and he's been 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.800 in politics for a very long time, you're never going 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.480 to change that. And everyone who knows him personally will 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.960 say that he's got a wicked sense of humor and 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.040 he's great company, and he's a great guy. But for 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.680 whatever reason, that has never translated on screen. So forget 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:20.000 about trying to soften him, which they tried to do 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.320 and failed dismally at. It's never going to happen. They 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.440 should have just let him lean into what he can 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:30.440 do on screen, which is be a hard taskmaster and 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.120 put it to Peter, put it to Anthony Alberizi. And 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.840 I think the record will now show that Labor ran 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:42.600 a dirty campaign against Peter Dutton, but a very effective one. 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.960 They played the man rather than the ball but it worked, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:48.800 and I think people got to the ballot box and 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.520 they didn't necessarily endorse Albanesi and say. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.000 Gee, I love this elbow bloke. 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.280 He's the best Prime Minister Australia he's ever had. But 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.040 they were dead certain that they didn't want Peter Dutton 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.720 anywhere near the lodge. It was the result of a 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.640 personal campaign that they ran against him. But at no 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.680 point did the Coalition let Peter Dutton do the same 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:09.720 thing to Albanzi. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.600 No, Well, they were all obsessed with like we've got. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.559 To soften his image. And I actually think that was. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.960 The downfall of Pete Dutton because the one thing in 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.880 politics that is worth its weight in gold is authenticity. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:29.080 And if you're just yourself, whether people like it or lumpet, 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.520 people know, okay, this guy stands for something and he's 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.160 being himself. I'm looking at the genuine article, so I 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.560 know what I do or don't want to vote for. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.680 And we know in politics perception is reality. And so 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.680 what Labor was able to create this narrative around who 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.760 Peter Dutton is and this hardliner and oh he's so 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:54.280 Trump Voldemort, et cetera and so on, which was such 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:58.240 a low blow. The guy has alopecia for crying out loud, 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.680 if you want to pick on his baldness, that is just. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:01.680 Way too low. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.640 But it worked, Like you say, and at the end 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.360 of the day, after all the votes accounted, that's all 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:13.120 that matters. So obviously the big question now is who 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.800 will be the new Liberal leader. We know Dan Tian's 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.320 hat is in the ring. We know Susan's Lay's hat 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:24.040 is in the ring. We know Angus Taylor's hat is. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:24.640 In the ring. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.600 These are the three names that are being bandied about. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.400 But we know one Liberal senator by the name of 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.720 Holly Hughes, a regular hero on Sky News, has said, 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.880 whoever it is, it can't be Angus Taylor. 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.040 I know who I won't be supporting. I think when 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.760 you've had roles leading what was supposed to be the 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.400 economic narrative, when you were supposed to be putting. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:50.960 Together tax policies, when. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.920 You were supposed to be delivering that sort of messaging 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.880 for the coalition, when you are aky member of the 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.560 EERC we're quite frank clear as a shadow who submitted 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.920 seven costed policies last October and. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.400 Then never heard anything back. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.720 There's certain people that I think need to do a 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.360 lot of reflection themselves on what their role was the 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.760 miss laws and perhaps putting your hand up for the 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.080 leadership is not exactly where your strength lies. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.680 We certainly didn't see a strong performance from Angus Taylor 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:23.960 this campaign. I don't think anyone would argue with that, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.560 and certainly anyone who watched the debate, I think it 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.520 was pretty much across the board. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.200 Everyone was like, ah, yeah, Charmers won that one. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.680 Sorry, even though we know what team we support, Chalmers 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.880 won that debate, and that seemed to be a reoccurring 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.360 theme whenever you saw Angus Taylor on our screen. 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.360 I agree, And the problem is is that the Liberals 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.800 really did, I think, failed to sell an economic narrative, 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.560 and August Taylor, being the shadow Treasurer, he was key 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.200 part of that. And the guy's a smart guy. You 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.160 cannot deny he is a Rhodes scholar. He knows what 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.320 he's talking about. But I don't think he particularly came 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.040 across as strong in that debate that you were talking about, Liz. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:00.680 I don't think he came across strong. There are a 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.200 lot of fumbles, but you look at the other candidates 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.160 as well, and I've got to say I'm actually disappointed 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.320 that Andrew Hasty, the West Australian, dropped out of the 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.560 race late this afternoon. I thought he would have been 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.760 a brilliant opposition leader. He is strong. He would have 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.240 been a great representative for WA who often feels like 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.199 they are the loaner of the country. I would know 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.639 that I'm from Western Australia. But the problem is is 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.520 that the Liberals also hid him throughout the campaign because 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.399 of comments that he made back in twenty eighteen. I 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.840 think Susan Lee is now the best out of all 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.840 of them. Why because the Liberals have a women problem. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.800 Now the voters think that the Liberal Party have a 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.240 women problem, So you put Susan Lee in there. She's 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.800 probably the most known out of them as being the deputy, 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.359 so she does have that public profile. But you've got 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.560 to sell her as the package. You've got to sell 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.600 her in a way that they didn't sell Peter Dunnon. 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.120 She's a grandmother, she's got kids of her own. You've 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:53.560 got to appeal to that market. I do think that 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.320 Dan Teene is particularly strong on immigration, but they're going 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.240 to be in the wilderness for many years no matter 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:00.560 what Caleb that thing. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.320 Which is why Hasty doesn't want to put his hand 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.760 up yet. In there's an argument, there's an argument to 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.439 be made that if you don't want to put your 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:08.840 hand up now and you want to come in and 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.880 collect all the prizes later, then you perhaps don't deserve to. 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:12.960 Collect all the prizes. 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.280 But there's also an argument that it's not worth burning 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.679 good talent early because if things go really badly at 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.679 the next election, you know, that could be the end 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:23.160 of it. But of course there is a man called 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:27.280 John Winston Howard who famously lost an election as Opposition 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.480 leader and then came back and became the second longest 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.040 serving Australian Prime minister in history. So it's not like 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.320 there isn't a roadback from this stuff. But Angus Taylor, 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:41.000 I mean, one of the biggest mistakes that the Coalition 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:45.840 made in this campaign was to not allow the tax 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.919 cut that Labors said they were not a sed to 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.320 the tax cut that Labour said they would pass on, 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:54.159 you know, five dollars a week. It was seventeen billion dollars, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.919 which in the context of a trillion dollar debt that 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.119 we already have, wasn't a great deal of money. So 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.200 you have Angus Taylor come out and say we won't 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:04.640 pass on that tax cut. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.600 Now there are two problems with that. It handed a 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:09.000 free kick to Labor. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.280 I mean he fell for the three card trick, and 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.080 they then got to say for the rest of the 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.560 campaign that this is the Liberal Party, the coalition that 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.760 won't give you a tax cut, and that was born 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.200 out in the polling that people legitimately started to think 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.800 that the Labor Party was more likely to be the 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.360 party that would give them a tax cut. So they 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.640 handed that as a free kick, and it was never 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.399 going to get through the Senate anyway. I mean that 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.520 was legislated within two days, that tax cut. So if 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.399 the Coalition would form government, they'd have to repeal it, 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.400 which means they'd have to get it through the set 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.840 And do you think the Senate would ever allow a 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:43.760 tax cut. 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:44.359 To be repealed. 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.639 It was one of the dumbest decisions they made. So 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:50.359 as far as I'm concerned, he's not up to the job. 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.520 Susan Lay I don't think is particularly electable. 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.199 You know, she just doesn't do it for me. I 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:57.880 don't think she's been particularly. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.680 Impressive as the deputy leader of Liberal Path. 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:02.800 It could be a smart move for the Libs, though 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.920 it gives them that massive point of difference. She would 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.399 be the first female leader of the Liberal Party again 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:13.840 in terms of a revamp, optical and otherwise, it could 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.280 be really helpful for them. And I think Dan Tian 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.680 being such a part of the Old Guard now, if 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.159 it were Angus Taylor, if it were Dan Teen, they're 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:30.439 considered Dutton's right hand men already, So if what the 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:34.840 Libs want is to do a revamp, I think Susan 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:36.200 Lay is actually the. 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:40.280 Best though he's proven himself to be a good campaigner. 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:44.200 And I was down in the western districts of Victoria 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.760 last week at the races in Warnabulle and everywhere were 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.080 the signs for Alex Dyson because he got money out 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.240 of the Climate two hundred mod this time, and it 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.720 was absolutely everywhere we stay in Port Fairy and every 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.800 second bloody house in Port Fairy had an Alex Dyson 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:00.760 sign on it. And I spoke to Tea and at 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.399 the races on Thursday and said are you worried? And 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.760 everyone I spoke to at the races during the week said, jeez, 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.320 I Reckon Teen's in a bit of travel. 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.640 And he managed to hold him off. There was a massive. 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.639 Campaign that Alex Dyson ran down there and he managed 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:15.320 to fend it off. 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:18.480 So he has some campaigning chops, which which clearly the 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:19.960 coaletion struggled with. 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.440 But he's been strong as well. But I think overall 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:23.879 we have to ask the question as well, is this 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.639 almost like the death of the Conservatives, because we're not 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.439 just seeing it here in Australia. We're seeing it the 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.720 Canadian election that was held last week as well. The 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.359 Conservatives were decimated. But you look at what's happening as 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.480 well over in the UK. The Conservatives are not performing 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.600 very well over there. But you know who is actually 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:47.440 outperforming the Conservatives Nigel for Raja's Reform Party. Now, over 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:51.360 the weekend the local council elections were held in the 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:57.119 UK and Reform did so much better than expected. In fact, 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.960 it took out multiple counties and it really really was 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.000 a warning sign. I would say to the Labor Party 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.560 that hey, people have genuinely han that had enough. But 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.399 also it just goes to show that when you actually 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:11.919 are tough, when you talk tough, when you walk the 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.800 walk and talk the talk like Nigel Farage, and you're 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.480 not scared to back away, you actually can make a 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.800 key difference. Here was Nigel Farage sending a message to 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:22.280 other parties. 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.440 The measure to Keir Starmer sarcastically, is please keep doing 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:28.880 what you're doing, and the message it can be made 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:32.800 not is well. Frankly, the Conservative Party's finished today. It's gone, 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:35.320 it's dying in the shahs. It has no future, It 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:36.159 stands for nothing. 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:39.160 It serves no purpose, any chance of doing a deal 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:40.400 with them to unite the right. 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:42.680 I don't want to do a deal with them. We're 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:44.200 going to win the next election on our own. 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.840 Okay, Nigel Franch, thank you very much, thank you. And 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.679 you know what, he probably may have a good chance. 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:54.000 The polls are right now in reforms favor. Why because 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.720 people over there have had enough of mass immigration. They're 0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:00.280 sick to death of jobs being given to immigrants who've 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.600 come to the country as opposed to people who were 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:05.879 born and raised there. Hello, we're seeing issues here in 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.840 this country as well. But what I particularly like about 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.960 Nigel Ferajus he's not mucking around. He said that he's 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.800 coming after DEI in councils. Have a look. 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:19.120 We are going to be quite radical. Work from home. 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.200 Forget it. If you're a DEI officer, I suggest you 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:23.080 look for another job. 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:25.439 So things are going to be different. 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.359 We can't wagh magic ones. We don't pretend to, but 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.800 it'd be a very different approach to local government. 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.919 So I think that this result was quite telling and 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.760 it goes to show, as I said, when you actually 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.200 have policies and you stick to them and you don't 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:41.719 back down, you don't go all scared, you don't go 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:44.480 all light like what we saw with the Liberal Party here. 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.399 You can actually make a difference when you have a 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:50.439 point of difference. It was a really really successful win 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.680 over a former even former gb News host Darren Grimes. 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.280 He even managed to get a seat in one of 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.560 the councils, which was which was quite quite astonishing and 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.399 good on and he's done very well up there. But 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.560 I really think that Reform is a party. We need 0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:07.800 something like that here in Australia because we don't have 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.159 it the Conservatives. If you're going to move over to 0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:14.160 the left like the labor left, then what's the point 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:15.399 You're not taking voters with you. 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.560 And this is just remarkable in a matter of months. 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.720 So it was just August last year UK went to 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:22.400 the polls. 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.000 We know that Kirstarmer got up. 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:30.640 Reformer party just got fourteen percent of the vote share, modest, 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:35.160 not too bad. Here we are in the following year 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:39.879 and in these local elections they romped in thirty percent 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:46.080 of the vote, winning six hundred and seventy seven council seats. 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:46.959 This is huge. 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.800 They crushed Labor, they crushed the Conservatives. Labor lost over 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:55.480 one hundred and sixty seats. The Conservatives lost over six 0:24:55.720 --> 0:25:00.320 hundred seats in these local elections. So those guys are 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:05.560 absolutely really You will remember, just months after the national 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:11.520 election last year, over two million English people signed a 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:15.040 poll saying, please, we are crying out Parliament go to 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.560 an early general election because. 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.200 We already have by a remorse. 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:24.040 They had punished the Conservatives at election because the Conservatives 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:28.159 had not delivered on their Brexit promises, namely to clamp 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:32.640 down on the mass rampant immigration that was sweeping the UK. 0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:36.920 Kiss Starmer then became Prime Minister, took the narrow win 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:39.520 and proceeded. 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.200 To just keep doing. 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.600 All these progressive policies that everyone in the UK had 0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:48.800 said very loudly they didn't want any more. But worse 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:53.480 than that, Kiers Starma then enacted these draconian policies to 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:59.320 silence everyone and censor everyone who was still complaining, still noticing, 0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.960 still posting on their socials being like my country's being 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.440 overrun and I'm absolutely sick of it. And that's where 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:12.320 reform is now absolutely transcendent because they're just like, Okay, 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:13.879 the Conservatives aren't cutting. 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:14.160 It for you. 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.760 We are replacing them. We will be the Conservative party 0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.240 that you long to see. It's going to be really 0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.600 interesting when they go back to the polls for a 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:24.600 general election reform. 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.320 I have no doubt that Farage can do this. 0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:29.919 And he means business when he says, you guys are 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:30.600 dead in the water. 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.200 We're going to win a majority government. 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:35.200 By ourselves come the next general election. 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:36.240 We're just getting started. 0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.320 Well, they picked up another MP on the weekend as 0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:40.520 well as the election, so they've now got their fifth 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.880 MP in the Parliament in the UK. And of course 0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.160 they have a first pass the post system in the UK, 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.359 which makes things a little more difficult in terms of 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.239 getting candidates over the line because you look like at 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.200 a party like the lib Dems for instance, and they've 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.520 got you know, seventy eighty odd seats or something, but 0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.080 they only pull two or three percent of the national vote, 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.680 but they have strong support in small parts of the country. 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.680 So on a first past the post model you can 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.360 actually get a lot of candidates in. So the trouble 0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.440 for the Reform Party is to be able to turn 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:15.240 national support into a genuine first past the post result 0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.680 in multiple electorates. But to make it clear just. 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.080 How extraordinary this was. 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:23.240 In the council elections, there's one thy six hundred and 0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.080 forty one seats across the UK. Six hundred and seventy 0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:30.399 seven of them, forty one percent went to the Reform Party. 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.560 The lib Dems won three hundred and seventy, the Tories 0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.600 three hundred and nineteen, as Liz said before, that's down 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.080 six hundred and seventy seven on where they were, and 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.440 Labor one ninety eight, which is down one hundred and 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:45.280 eighty nine seats. So the Tories and Labor, the two 0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:50.840 major parties, combined one quarter of the seats the council 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:55.159 seats in the UK, and Reform, what was previously a 0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:59.040 minor party that started up last year about four or 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.760 five weeks before for the general election in the UK, 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.920 has taken forty one percent of them. I mean, that 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.160 is absolutely extraordinary. But the one thing I will say, 0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:11.800 the advantage that Reform, and Farage has in the UK 0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:15.880 as opposed to the situation we have here is that 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:22.040 Reform is essentially the only alternative Conservative party that exists 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.000 in the UK, whereas here you've got one Nation, and 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:28.119 you've got Rennick and you've got family First. But we 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.919 are so trumpet to patriots, we are so splintered that 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.800 the effort to actually create a genuine alternative to the 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.800 Liberal Party or the Coalition would require a lot of 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.920 people to knock their heads together and have to make 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.640 sacrifices on their various little bug bears and whatever to say, 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.680 we've got to get together and create something here that 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.600 could actually be a genuine alternative, because the way it 0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:52.760 is at the moment, you could never do what Reform. 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.240 The thing is, the Conservatives are being decimated right now 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.440 across the world, other than Donald Trump, who has done 0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.560 exceptionally well. But again it comes down to good life leadership. 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.680 And people criticize Nigel Farage saying he's Donald Trump two 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.640 point right. Hey, the guy is highly successful because he 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.960 says it like it is and that's the difference. And 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:12.120 I do agree, well, correct, It's all about authenticity. It's 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.040 not about backing away I do agree. Here in Australia 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:18.320 it is very different. But it also comes down to 0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.360 the Liberal Party pulling up their socks. And I believe 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.440 that they can get there, but they're not going to 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.080 get there anytime soon. That is the problem. So who's 0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:26.720 going to come up in the ranks and actually do it. 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.920 Can you imagine how the Tories must feel. They could 0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:30.720 have had Nigel Farage. 0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.360 And it will be Averen story. 0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.640 They said no and he's gone and proven and wrong. 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.640 And I can't get over this business. Today Donald Trump 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.880 saying he's going to put one hundred percent tariff on 0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:47.120 films made overseas that are then screened in Hollywood, and 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:48.840 here he is talking about it. 0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.160 We're making very few movies now, Harleywood, He's being displayed. 0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:53.440 Now. 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.680 You haven't jarfenent grossly and garpending. 0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:57.880 Governor that allows that to happen. 0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.920 So I'm not just blaming nations, but other nations, a 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:03.600 lot of them have stolin. 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:04.720 I'm moving in them. 0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.880 So he says Hollywood is dying and we have to 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.040 do something to try and revive Hollywood. I mean, I 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.120 would suggest there are a multitude of reasons that Hollywood 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:14.800 is dying. I mean, it went woke and no one 0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:16.800 wanted to watch the crap that was coming out of it. 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.600 Just look at the snow white film that Disney just 0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.760 put out. Of course, Disney's now miraculously turned around and said, oh, 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.880 maybe we won't make woke films anymore. Funny about that, 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.520 because reality eventually comes to bad. Also, has anyone noticed 0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:33.520 that there are no original ideas in the movie industry anymore? 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.960 I mean, can we stop with all the remakes that 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.000 seems to be all they put out. 0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:39.960 Now, remake after remake after remake. 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:43.760 They've genuinely run out of ideas. So no wonder Hollywood 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:45.719 is in trouble. And I wish I could tell you 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.520 the detail around this plan, but it doesn't actually exist. 0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.160 I mean, all we've been told is that Trump wants 0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.880 to put one hundred percent tariff on films that come 0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.600 from overseas. We don't know whether that means that it 0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:01.720 would be one hundred percent tariff on the production cost 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.000 that would then have to be paid by the production 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.960 company so their film could be screened in the US, 0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.640 or whether it means that the cinemas would have to 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.080 pay one hundred percent tariff on the tickets that they sell, 0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.720 or the netflixes and all the other streaming services of 0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.720 the world, or the television stations of the world would 0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.000 have to pay another one hundred percent on top of 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:25.000 what they've already paid in rights in order to screen 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.920 the film, or whether it's the total box office taking. 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.840 No one knows what this actually leans. I mean, this 0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:33.760 was a brain fart from Donald Trump. 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.680 Seriously, he's an ounce They've got to make it work now. 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.080 All the Hollywood exects, by the way, like, we got 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:40.360 no heads up about this. 0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.640 We found out about it when it came out of 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.400 the man's mouth. And given the scrambling the Trump admin 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:48.520 is now trying to do. 0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.600 To enact this, apparently it's happening. 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.800 I don't think they knew either, because obviously a movie 0:31:56.080 --> 0:32:00.640 isn't a product. It doesn't travel through ports, so how 0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.000 is such a tariff going to work. It's also startled 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.000 a lot of other people in different other sectors because 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.120 they're like, well, hang on a minute, we thought these 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:12.960 tariffs would just be on products. Now you mean to 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.000 tell me we're talking movies. Who else is he going 0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:16.640 to hit up? 0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:17.120 Now? 0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:21.320 But this was Trump's post from his Truth social platform. 0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.560 He said the movie industry in America is dying a 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:25.880 very fast death. 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:27.040 I'd say that's a great thing. 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.400 But anyway, other countries are offering all sorts of incentives 0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:33.560 to draw our filmmakers and studios away from the United States. 0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:37.640 Hollywood and many other areas within the USA are being devastated. 0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:41.040 This is a concerted effort by other nations and therefore 0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:45.680 a national security threat. Oh, this is reaching hysteric levels, 0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.040 ladies and gentlemen. It is in addition to everything else, 0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.200 messaging and propaganda. 0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:52.280 I couldn't agree more. 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.480 How about you get rid of the Pentagon Department that 0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:59.880 works in collusion with Hollywood to pump this crap out. 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.040 It's therefore, I am authorizing the Department of Commerce and 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:07.040 the United States Trade Representative to immediately begin the process 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.040 of instituting a one hundred percent tariff on any and 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.000 all movies coming into our country that are produced in 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:17.640 foreign lands. We want movies made in America again in 0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:22.440 his usual caps, Now, he's not wrong. According to data 0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:27.880 from prod pro, spending on film production TV production in 0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:31.320 the United States has gone down by twenty eight percent 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.880 just between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty four. That 0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.680 is a lot of money we're talking about, and he 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.640 wants to keep it in the country. But you can't 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:46.960 deny that if you haven't made things. The production companies 0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:50.440 are obviously like, well, we can produce this cheaper elsewhere anyway, 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.840 not to mention all the exotic locations that they film in. 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.000 Of course they're going to do it, but rather than. 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.160 Make it more affordable for them to do so in 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.680 the US, he's just saying, no, I'm going to make 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.840 it far too expensive for you to do it anyway. 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:10.040 Try use VHS. That's why you think so well, I. 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.360 Highly doubt a billionaire like Donald Trump still on the 0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.440 old VHS. Yeah, but look, you never know. Look but 0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.040 one can dream. But I completely this was a thought bubble. 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:19.680 There is no doubt this is a thought bubble. This 0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:23.000 is not only going to cripple the overseas market, We're 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.400 going to be impacted here in Australia as well by this. 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:27.560 Don't forget there's been major films. If you look back, 0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:29.840 there's been major films film here. It's going to have 0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.520 an impact on our market. It's going to cripple the 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:36.560 independent movie scene. I was reading as well, over seventy 0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.640 five percent of box office Hollywood films actually reportedly come 0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.640 from outside of the US, so it probably will encourage 0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:46.680 Hollywood to seek to move out of the United States. 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.040 But you know, Hollywood only has itself to blame here, because, 0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.360 as you said, Caleb, Hollywood went woke years ago snow white. 0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.719 For example, there was that ridiculous one Amelia Perez where 0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.239 it was a Mexican drug law and that was transgender. 0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:00.960 I mean, where are they getting this from. They've got 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.120 quotas for when you win awards. They've got quotas. You 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.319 have to have certain demographics to win awards. So you know, 0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.480 maybe if I actually stopped with this white nonsense, they 0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.360 could revive the movie scene. It's very clear Donald Trump 0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.120 has no idea what he's doing here with this one. 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:15.760 I've got to say, I think this was a complete 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:17.520 thought bubble. I think there'll be a lot of pushback 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:17.919 as well. 0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.480 You may have a point though. Crocodile Dundee was pretty 0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.359 good Australian propaganda, wasn't it. 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:26.160 It was bring back Crocodile Dundee before we leave you 0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:31.600 for a break tonight. Chinese, one of their humanoid robot factories, 0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:35.799 has made headlines around the world for all the wrong reasons. 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.879 It's called China's Unitree Robotics. They were supposed to be 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:45.759 showcasing this humanoid robot called H one, and well it 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:50.600 went very badly in fact, with someone kind of This 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.759 guy was lucky to escape with his life. There's a 0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:58.960 humanoid absolutely going tropo. These guys are running for their lives. 0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.319 They almost got bashed in the head, taken out by 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.879 this robot, which Unitree is trying to sell. 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.560 You can go online and buy one of these now. 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.239 I think sales are probably going to plummet, but it 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.680 certainly doesn't dissuage the fears that so many people have 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:20.600 about these humanoid robots. Elon Musk has been like, oh, 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:24.080 we're going to produce five to ten thousand of them 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:28.200 in the next few years. Those people, those techie people, 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.879 are very excited about this expanding industry, and the rest 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.400 of us are watching on with horror at things like 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:35.240 this terrifying. 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.840 It's incredible to think where we could be going. I 0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:39.600 just got to say, that thing looks like me. When 0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.000 I went through my bit slips at Warnable Lab, I 0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.839 realized that back two inns All Week book, He's cleaned 0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:46.759 me up I meaning two minute noodles for the rest 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:48.919 of the year, it would see. After the break we'll 0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.719 get into the papers, big time Liberal donuts. 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.719 Saying they may will never donate to the party again. 0:36:54.920 --> 0:37:03.640 That is how bad things have become. Don't go away, 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.080 all right, let's get into tomorrow's papers. We'll start with 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.919 the Australian, where I have to say, right up the top, 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:15.000 the best story I've seen all week, perhaps all year, 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.360 a bit of avoidance from the election. Oscar Piastre, who 0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.920 has won again in the US. I mean he is 0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:24.560 just it and a bit boy from Brighton in Melbourne. 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.360 He will win the championship this year, mark my words. 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:32.480 But another story underneath it, completely hopeless, furious top Liberal 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.920 donors to close wallets. Top Liberal party donors are pulling 0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:39.120 their financial support for the party, blaming the combination of 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:43.600 a disorganized election campaign and Peter Dathen's labor light policy platform, 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:47.719 saying without early wholesale changes, they won't be giving in 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.719 three years time. And it goes on to name some 0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:55.440 of these people, soul Pats, Robert Milner and plenty of others. 0:37:55.440 --> 0:38:00.279 Stockbroger Angus Aiken saying you know, we just can not 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.680 get over exactly how bad this was. 0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:06.719 To quote soul Pats. 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:09.320 Who's given more than a million dollars in the past 0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.319 to the party said it's been a disaster. I will 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:16.560 be seriously thinking about whether I ever donate again. 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.399 I don't know where they go to from now. It 0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.160 was a very poor campaign. There were too many mixed messages. 0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.400 They didn't convince voters that labor spending billions on renewables 0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.040 is a bad idea. That Libs have to change their 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.880 way of thinking and get more of the swing voters. 0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:32.719 I mean, when you've got people who punt up a 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.799 lot of money, say I don't know that I'll ever 0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:36.919 give them money again, you own big traup. 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.439 Absolutely, this is a real worry for the Liberal Party. 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.919 They would be absolutely crying to read this article because 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.760 if you haven't got the money, you haven't got the backing, 0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.560 then what's the point of putting out a campaign. But look, 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:49.880 they've done it to themselves. They will have to rebuild. 0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:52.239 They're going to have to really convince donors that they 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.720 are not in the wilderness, that they are going to improve, 0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:56.600 that they're going to fix the mess but it's going 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.160 to take a lot of time. But they need that money. 0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.200 It would be such a good time, like we were 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.360 talking about earlier, if there was a legitimate alternative like 0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.200 worm have managed you out of the blue, like they 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.719 haven't even been around for that long at all, and 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:15.120 look what they have achieved. Because people are desperate for 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:19.720 a Conservative party and they're like, well the Conservatives aren't 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:21.719 doing it for you, We're going to do it for you. 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:23.440 If one of those were to. 0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:27.719 Spring up in Australia pretty soon, they could count on 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.480 these backers arguably just say hey, if those are the 0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.080 policies that you want to see pushed, that's our bread 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:39.160 and butter. We're going to do it legitimately, unapologetically, and 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.719 we're going to create some wins in this country for 0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:45.759 the Conservative vote. You wonder if you wouldn't Just like 0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:49.279 the Conservatives in the UK, the Tories have lost a 0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:54.160 lot of big donors to form. These guys could do 0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:56.879 the same if and when they actually exist, said here 0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:58.040 in Australia. 0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:59.520 Well, it'd be good to see them given a scare, 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.040 wouldn't it. One day scare they had on the weekend 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.480 is enough to shock them into action. But of course, 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.080 now that albow is back, all the old people are 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.280 starting to circle again, and one of them is Marsha 0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:12.840 Langton says. On the front of the aus Tomorrow sees 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.560 the moment, Langton tells PM, and don't forget that Penny 0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.759 Wong sort of suggested in the dying days of the 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.040 campaign that there could be a legislated voice, But Langton says, 0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.239 here it says Anthony Albernez, he must use he's once 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:29.319 in a generation election win to be courageous in Indigenous 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:33.200 policy and go beyond warm acknowledgments of traditional owners to 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:37.319 address extreme disadvantage. Voice and architect Marshall Langton says. The 0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.160 wipeout of the coalition on Saturday is being seen by 0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.600 some supporters of the Ularu statement from the heart as 0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:47.360 a rejection, sorry of opposition attacks on welcome to Country ceremonies. 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.440 It's shunning of the Aboriginal flag and for an eleventh 0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.360 hour attempt to convince voters that Labor had a secret 0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:55.320 plan to revive. 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:56.360 An Indigenous voice. 0:40:57.120 --> 0:41:01.160 To anyone who actually believes that, to to borrow a 0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.320 line from the Prime Minister, who I believe he borrowed 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:08.360 from some influencer podcast, is you are de Lulu with no, Slulu, 0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.440 I mean to think that this election was actually a 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.839 rejection of Datton saying that Welcome to Country is overdone 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:18.560 and that he would only stand in front of the 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.560 Australian fact. I'm sorry, no one walked into a ballot 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.799 box Saturday and said I'm voting on the basis of 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.239 welcome in the country. They voted on the basis of 0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:29.360 cost of living and the fact that they just didn't 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:32.560 like Peter Datton to say, well, this is a rejection 0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:35.560 of wokeness and well, you know this is people saying, actually, 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:36.520 like work does something. 0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:40.000 Yeah. But you know what, though, the Liberals actually should 0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:41.719 have gone harder on the voice. I think throughout the 0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.200 campaign they should have they should have narrated it out. 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.279 As for Marsha, you know, they just pipe in their 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.600 heads up again now that Labor has been re elected. 0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:52.960 And what struck me the other night now Beneze his 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:57.440 victory speech when he really enthusiastically acknowledged Elder's past president 0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.680 emerging and that that line he was really husiastics So 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:02.880 you know, the gang is back together. The gang are 0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:03.320 back together. 0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:03.560 Kate. 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.160 Well, I mean, God help us always like to say 0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.400 to that, but I don't. I just don't think if 0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.040 they think that's what people were voting on. 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.200 Okay, we'll look at the Herald's sun now. Now, this 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.680 is one of the most delicious moments of the election campaign. 0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.640 If there is any Bant in fight to survive, hallelujah. 0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.480 There eight Victorian seats remain in doubt as the race 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.600 titans in the Liberals favor in three key electorates, offering 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.400 the party a silver lining amid the devastating defeat. Greensley 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.680 that Adam Banty is at risk of losing his seat 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.400 of Melbourne to Labor, while t LMP Monk Ryan on 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.319 Monday had to walk back claims she'd won Kugyong. God, 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:42.440 how embarrassing, admitting that the count was too close to call. 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.640 Postal votes in at Kuyong have favored the Liberal candidate there, 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:49.600 Amelia Hamer, who on Sunday night said we can win this. 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.839 So you've got doctor Monique Ryan. Firstly, she was out 0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.440 there celebrating she'd won. I saw she even put on 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:59.640 her ex account Thank you Cooyong. She was all excited. Oh, 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.279 you might have to backpedal. How embarrassing. And as for 0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:08.880 Adam Bant, Trella see you later. Adam off you go goodbye. 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:10.359 Don't let the door hit you on your way out. 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.440 That's your only silver lining from this whole election campaign. 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.359 When you see now delicious not about to talk about 0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:17.399 Sidney sweeneyws on the front. Well, I mean you would 0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.280 think that would be It would be much much better 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:22.480 than Adam band, much better vision than Adam Banter or 0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:23.040 menik Rah. 0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:23.800 And that's for sure. 0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:26.680 But I mean, for goodness sake, you know they say 0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:30.480 don't count your chickens before then, and given the advice 0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:35.400 of eggs these days, they're very expensive chickens to be counting. 0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:36.880 I mean, wouldn't it be magnificent? 0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.640 And we saw, of course that the Greens have gone backwards, 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:41.160 they lost two seats. 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:42.840 In Queens It I mean, how. 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:47.040 Delicious would it be see Adam indeed, to see Adam 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.759 Bant go with them. I suspect Bant is going to 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:54.120 hold on and most of the Teals, it should be noted, 0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:57.280 even if two of them say go in Victoria, most 0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.560 of them will hold on in the rest of the country. 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:03.440 So it's not like the days are over for the Teals. 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:06.640 But it is a window into their bravado to say 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:07.480 on election. 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:14.200 And then the couch starts coming in. So sorry, I 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:15.120 got that wrong. 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.719 Very humiliating to the front page of the Townsville Bulletin. 0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:24.880 Now odd story bin police to check waste come again. 0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:28.400 Residents and ratepayers in Townsville will soon be treated to 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:31.840 a strange site on their streets, that of Townsville City 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.880 Council employees popping open their bins to take a look inside. 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:39.000 The move comes as a part of Townsville City Council's 0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:45.040 new Bin health check program, running until September across seven suburbs. 0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.759 These guys are going to be armed with clipboards. The 0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:51.759 council's rubbish crops are doing visual checks of your recycling 0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:56.480 bins on collection day to make sure there's no mix ups. 0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:58.960 The mayor says this blitz is all about. 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:03.399 Boosting recycling and cutting land fell So she says they 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.920 won't be rifling through rummish. 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:06.640 Just taking a look. 0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:10.720 So to Townsville residence, all that matters is what's on top, okay, 0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.440 So just whatever you do, make sure you sprinkle the 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.960 good stuff on top, get the tick from these clipboard 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.200 council employees and you're in the clear. 0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.560 Anyway, How would you like to be a bin coop. 0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:23.239 I mean, they wouldn't be the best job. Can you 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:24.920 imagine the smell out of everyone's bins? 0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:25.480 I know. 0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.399 It reminds me of one of my favorite stories ever 0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:30.719 published in the history of journalism, which was by a 0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:34.040 little paper in a small town in the US where 0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:37.279 the local government had decided that what was in the 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.680 bin once it was on the footpath was public property, 0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:40.760 so anyone could come. 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:41.839 Along and take it. 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.279 So these small time journos of this little paper went 0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.040 rifled through the bins of all the local politicians and 0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.879 then published what they found in their bins, and very 0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.480 quickly that policy was turned back. I wonder whether that 0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:56.480 might happen in this case. After the break, the conclave 0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.799 begins this week to decide who the new Pope will be. 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.560 What if it was Donald Trump will show you that 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:08.719 after this, Well, the new Pope will be decided this week. 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:10.840 But it would seems the White House has designs on 0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:11.640 Donald Trump talk. 0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:14.120 Oh look, I think this is absolutely brilliant. Yes, it's 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.160 a big moment for the Vatican, of course, as they 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.160 look to elect a new pope, and we saw this 0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:22.800 fascinating image. It's an AI generated image that Donald Trump 0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:26.080 has put out today of well, none other than himself 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:29.600 is he's nominated and selected himself to be the new Pope. Gosh, 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:31.560 if you don't you know he looks. This is the 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:33.719 problem with AI. You never know what's real or fake. 0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:35.880 But you've got to have a look at this AI video. 0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:57.080 And well, I thought it was a classic personally, isn't 0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.480 it just brilliant? And look, of course the left to 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.680 the left, they're all upset, they say it's offensive. I 0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:04.640 actually think it was quite funny. Personally, I think we 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.120 shouldn't take things so seriously. He put it out as 0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:09.120 a little bit of a joke. He thought it was funny, 0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:11.320 and you know what, we've got to take it with 0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.759 a bit of humor. But AI is scary because it 0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:15.160 didn't look real in my opinion. 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.879 Well one was he who actually goes to Catholic church? 0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:22.719 Yes, I do. All thought it's hilarious. Trump's not even 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:23.320 a Catholic. 0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:27.000 He doesn't even attend church church of any description. 0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.040 He's absolutely trolling. 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.400 And then the White House's official ex otherwise known as 0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:36.360 Twitter account, re shared the video, so they're clearly just 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:37.800 having a laugh. 0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:39.239 Can everyone please come now? 0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:43.279 I have to say, though surely being a poping a 0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.359 priest involves celibacy. I don't think Donald Trump would ever 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:48.040 get the job. 0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:51.320 I mean, for all his faults, and everyone's always rushed 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.600 to Trump's defense. And I've used the line myself to 0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:55.880 be like it was an elected to be pope. He 0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:59.280 was now. 0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:00.600 Here, he has been light well. 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.040 Actually well he's already had. 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.000 I had the second coming in the White House, so 0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:07.600 who knows what he can do over at Vatican City. 0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.480 But before we go, Tony Barry, who works with our 0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.719 mate Cos Samaras over at Redbridge. He's one of the 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.600 co directors of at Redbridge, was on the ABC's election 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.640 coverage on Saturday night. I know you weren't watching that, 0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:20.520 you were watching us, but you would think, given he 0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:22.200 was on the coverage, you would have wonderful things to 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:25.280 say about it. But his assessment was thus, the ABC 0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:28.440 was the only telecast of six hours of no data 0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:33.719 analysis and insight, just six endless what I reckon journalism 0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:38.920 ours unwatchable drivel. He said they should burn the ABC 0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:42.200 to the ground quote unquote, and then sort the earth 0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:46.560 underneath and on behalf of all of us. Tony Barry, 0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:48.799 we say thank you here, Thank you so much for 0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:49.279 joining us. 0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:50.799 Tonight, Britta Panecky Show is Up.