1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always Was, Always 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: Py Chix. 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: I'm sal and I'm and this is two Broke Chicks 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: to show that shares life lessons and tips to make 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: you rich in life. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: And today we're talking all things Australian Fashion Week because 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: we've just come straight out of Fashion Week, one of 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: the biggest fashion events of the year in Australia. I 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: want to give you some behind the scenes tea about 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: Australian Fashion Week, plus go through some of our favorite 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: trends that we saw on the runway and also on 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: the streets. 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: I feel like the Street Star from Fashion Week this year, 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: like popped off, I saw more about the Street Star 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: than I did about the actual runways me too. 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: Actually, which is really fun everybody to know about what 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: this episode is going to be about. 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: But before we get into it, we love to start 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: with a product wreck of the week. 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: So, al, what have you got for me? So my 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: product recommendation of the week is just this little red 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: CARDI from Glassans. But we've just done a save or 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: Splurge series on like the red CARDI. Basically, yeah, the 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: it girl item of this year, and we were doing 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: it on like Sportscraft, Unique Clow and Glassans, and I 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: ended up getting both the Unique cloth and the Glassens 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: one because they're a little bit different. Obviously, wouldn't just 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: buy the same item twice, but virtual it's just they're 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: just so good. It's so comfy. Because Glassons one is 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: one hundred percent cotton and was twenty nine ninety nine. 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: I believe might be thirty nine ninety nine. I'll have 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: to double check that, but yeah, I just love it. 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: It's ten out of ten. 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 2: It looks very cute. 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: It's truly the cherry on top. Yeah, I posted a 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: photo in its morning. I've had like four messages being 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: that way about and I'm like, I will tell you 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: right now, will here you go, chicks? Okay. 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: My product recommendation of the week is actually a mattress 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: topper which I seey very sexy, which I picks up 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: during a Dare's recent Linen Lover's sale event. 44 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: Because it is an expensive purchase. 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: Like depending on the size of your bed, they're usually 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: a couple of hundred dollars, but oh my god, it 47 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: has elevated my sleep experience so much, Like I have 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: a really really comfy mattress anyway, but I just feel 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: like this has made given me so much support on 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: my back and it's just so plush and cumfy and 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 3: really gives you like that cloud experience. So if you 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: feel like you need to elevate your mattress a little bit, 53 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: but you're not ready to buy a new mattress. 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Yet, try mattress topper. I am yet to find an 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: investment in betting that was not worth it. Yeah, so true, 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I'm yet to find 57 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: a splurge on betting that I was like, hmm, I 58 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: didn't need this, Yeah, because every time I'm like, yeah, 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: that feels fucking good. 60 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 61 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: And Hosty little cinnamon burn you literally use it. 62 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: Every single day and we all know that, like the 63 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: quality of your sleep impacts the rest of your life. 64 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: So definitely worth the investment. 65 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into the episode. 66 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: Okay, We're going to start off with the history of 67 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: Australian Fashion Week. So Australian Fashion Week has actually been 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: around for decades. It was initially launched by a PR 69 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: consultant and magazine reporter Simon Locke in nineteen ninety six. 70 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: Your birth year out. 71 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: I know when you told me that, I was like, hey, yeah, 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: birth of Fashion. It was me, it all alone. 73 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was later sold to IMG in two 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: thousand and five, which is yeah, it's been around for 75 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: a long long time. 76 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: I know IMG owned it. M yeah me neither. Yeah, 77 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: I think, because we'll get into this later. 78 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: But because it's had like quite a few different sponsors 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: over the years, I just never realized who actually owned 80 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: Australian Fashion Week. I thought that it was its own 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: institution in itself. 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: Sane, That's what I thought. 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, But it has been described by Vogue Australia as 84 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: like the biggest fashion event in Australia. It's Australia's only 85 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: international fashion event as well, and it usually takes place 86 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: in Sydney at the Carriage Works and other locations around 87 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: Sydney annually every May. In comparison to other fashion week 88 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: events around the world, so you know, like your Paris 89 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: Fashion Week's New York Fashion Week, et cetera. It has 90 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: been criticized and celebrated for featuring emerging designers rather than 91 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: big names in fashion. 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: I like that, yeah, I also think it has celebrated 93 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: big names in fashion, like Beckon Bridge is a big 94 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: name well in Australia. 95 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: I guess that's the thing, though it's like in comparison 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: and to say like chanel On, like product or Gucci 97 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: or like whoever you would say, And I guess I 98 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: get it. 99 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: But I also think that. 100 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: That's a good thing, like why not provide a local, 101 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: unique experience that you can't get anywhere else in the world. 102 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: And I thought it was really interesting that a fashion 103 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: journalist and former Vogue Australia editor Marion Hume, said that 104 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: the absence of established designers is welcome because it lets 105 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: even larger designers in Australia grow up and go overseas 106 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: and have their moment in the sun at some of 107 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: those fashion week events and gives space to younger, up 108 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: and coming designers in Australia, which I'm like, why not. 109 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: I think it's also really good because in my experience, 110 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: it's it is those like younger and up and coming designer. 111 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: It's not even younger. It's like when we say younger, 112 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: we mean like baby brand, not like young designer. Yeah, 113 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: because you can be a designer at any age obviously, 114 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: but it's those shows that I was like, holy shit, 115 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: because you just don't really know what you're getting, like 116 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: you don't know what to expect. Like one of the best, 117 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: most incredible shows I ever went to back in like 118 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: my journalist days and we're still journalists, but like when 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: I was a fashion and shopping journalist was this Leo 120 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: and Lynn show that was all based around the song 121 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: moon River. That's cool and I wanted to cry, like 122 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: it was so beautiful. The song moon River was playing 123 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: and all of the dresses and all of the outfits 124 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: were like inspired by Starlight and like that song, and 125 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: I was like, this is and to this date, to 126 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: this day, to this day, to this date, it is 127 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: the best fashion show I've ever seen from a brand 128 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: that I don't know if a lot of people would 129 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: know it, Like it might be a household name to 130 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: some people, but I don't know if that's necessarily a 131 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: super international, Weld renowned brand. So I just think it's 132 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: really cool. But when we're doing the research for this episode, 133 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: my favorite part was looking at all the old photos 134 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: from fashion Week, like Jennifer Hawkins and Alex Perry, like 135 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: it was just the best throwback and like the evolution 136 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: of how it has been like spelled Check posted this 137 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: photo of jenn Hawkins and I don't know if I 138 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: did show you it now, but I'm gonna show you now. 139 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: Looks incredible. This is not a read but it is 140 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: so different to what we see. I'll post it on 141 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Instagram too, to what we see now because she's standing 142 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: in these like two piece Borghini in a black and 143 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: white floral set with this like mesh red scarf and 144 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: gold heels a wow, great. 145 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god, and she has like a metallic tote 146 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: bag with a puppy in it. 147 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's giving Like Jennifer Hawkins is never a bogan, 148 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: she's just but yeah, it's like and just like the 149 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: sitting arrangements is all like single chair, not like the 150 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: big white benches we see. It's not tied. It's just 151 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: like it just really shows you how Australian Fashion Week 152 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: has elevated itself. Yeah, since its beginning. I love that. 153 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: I know. 154 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: So like all the photos I was looking out, I 155 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: was like, this is a sleigh. Yeah, I was into 156 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: a fashion week in Australia was a sleigh. Fashion Week 157 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: now is also that. But I was like, I love it. 158 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: It's like looking at some of the old arias. 159 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: It's really nostalgic. I think it's really interesting the evolution 160 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: of Fashion Week, because I think it was really hit 161 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: hard by COVID. For years and years it was sponsored 162 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: by Mercedes Benz, yeah, and it was like quite an 163 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: iconic thing. They would have Mercedes cars out the front. 164 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: And then now we're kind of seeing the sponsors change 165 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: quite often, which I think is interesting. And you know, 166 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: we don't know why. I was saying this sow before 167 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: we did the episode. I wonder if it's because people 168 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: don't want to renew their sponsorships or if they like 169 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: changing the sponsorship now, Like how the reach not been 170 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: enough for these sponsors to renew or do they just 171 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: like get a new sponsors every year. I don't know, 172 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: because in twenty twenty two it was sponsored by after 173 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: Pay and in twenty twenty four it was sponsored by Pandora, 174 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: which was interesting. Interesting. 175 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like I feel like at least after Pay 176 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: and Pandora are more aligned with fashion and shopping. 177 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mercedes Mercedes, it was just because they had done 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: it like every year, just kind. 179 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: Of and because Mercedes Benz is such like a lux 180 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: breadder Yeah. 181 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so interesting. It will be next year two 182 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Broake Chicks, two Broach Chicks, past a Week rich In 183 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: Live Fashion Week Yeah. Love. So our history with fashion Week. 184 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: I started my job as a journalist as a fashion 185 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: and shopping journalist, so I think I went to three 186 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: fashion weeks like prop like every day shows, reporting, shows, 187 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: reporting shows, reporting, and then kind of since moving into 188 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: our job now we don't really go as much, just 189 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: for like personal preference, not that there's anything wrong with it. 190 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: I just find it really hectic. 191 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: It is a really and I feel like over the 192 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: last couple of years, just by coincidence, we've. 193 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: Been really really busy during. 194 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: Week. Yeah May or like last year, yeah we were 195 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: in BALI I think, yeah, so it just hasn't lined up. 196 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: But it is a very intense, full on week. But 197 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: it's fun but it's yeah, it's really fun. But I 198 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: think I just I like watching it from a my 199 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: phone screen to be honest. But how it works is 200 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: in previous years I would sign up as media. So 201 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: if you work at a publication, you register on the 202 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: Australian Fashion Week website and you'd put in your publication 203 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: how many sessions and page views your site gets and 204 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: your details, So page views and your sessions are basically 205 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: like views on Instagram or TikTok, Like that's how you 206 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: would like look at it, yeah, or like readership back 207 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: in the day. Yeah, they'd be like who goes on 208 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: your side? And if it's like you know, ninety percent women, 209 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: it's literally like insights on analytics on Instagram and TikTok. 210 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 211 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: And then this is what I imagine gets like put 212 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: into the OZ Fashion Week database and then designers and 213 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: shows would then look at who's coming and invite you 214 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: based on that. They look at like your role, so 215 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: they would probably prioritize editors or like fashion writers depending 216 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: on where you worked, and then they would invite you accordingly. 217 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: You either get invited through like OZ fashion Week, like 218 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: their database two shows, or directly through brands PR or 219 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: their PR agency. And as I said, haven't really attended 220 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: as much, but I think a lot more happens through 221 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: PR and agencies because influencers are just such a big 222 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: part of fashion week now. Yeah, I think we were 223 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: talking about this before the changing roles at fashion week, 224 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: because I think I see every year there's people being 225 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: like wayn isn't always influences that fashion week and it's like, well, 226 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: where do you get your fashion from? Yeah? 227 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: Exactly, Like, especially in Australia, Like if we think about 228 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: our local fashion icons, almost all of them are influencers 229 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: and content creators. Like I think maybe this time, ten, fifteen, 230 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: twenty years ago, sure it may have been models who 231 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: were also walking on the runway, but more often now, 232 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,359 Speaker 3: like we're not really looking to Vogue magazine. 233 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing is that we're getting it from. 234 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: It's like you were getting your fashion and trends and 235 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, shopping information from buying you know, your WHO magazine, 236 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: You're Vogue, your rush wherever it was coming from, because 237 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: social media wasn't a thing. Whereas now like half the 238 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: time we're seeing trends and what we're buying is from 239 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: influencers and fashion creators. So I feel like they do 240 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: belong in Fashion Week. 241 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: And also I like it because I feel like we 242 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 3: have seen so much more diversity in terms of style, 243 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: body race, gender fluidity, everything sexuality, Like, so much more 244 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: representation across the board because influencers and content creators are 245 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: there and it isn't just your stereotypical model or fashion 246 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: editor that you may have seen fifteen years ago. 247 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? I don't think. I think there's 248 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. I think this year it's definitely 249 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: been more like enjoyed. Yeah, like even more celebrated. Yeah, 250 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: people are loving it a little bit more, and they're 251 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: loving like the street style little bit more because I've 252 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: definitely seen more about the street style and the looks 253 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: posted than the runways, which is interesting, but I like it. 254 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: I like seeing both. Yeah, street style is like half 255 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: the fun of it. Yeah, And the shows go for 256 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: like a few minutes. It really varies ending who it is. 257 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: Sometimes I would be standing and lining up because like 258 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be front row, and sometimes I'd be standing tea. Yeah. 259 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: If I got a seat, I was like, I made it, 260 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: I know. If I got like third row, I was 261 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah. So the shows don't go for as 262 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: long as you think they do. Yeah, Like the first 263 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: one I ever went to, I was like, oh, it's 264 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: done like that, But it makes sense need to be 265 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: any longer. I think you just overestimate maybe a little bit. 266 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: Like I've been to shows that went for five minutes, 267 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: and I've been to shows that went to twenty minutes. 268 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: But I don't think i've ever been to a show 269 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: that went over that, and I mean like five minutes 270 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: as in the first models out on the runway to 271 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: the last model is out the door on the runway, 272 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: not like doors open and you're sitting down and yeah, 273 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: people are taking photos on the runway and whatever. And 274 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: the seating, which I just find so like interesting and spicy, 275 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: is done in terms of row and like front row 276 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: is that like high position of like fashion royalty. Yeah, 277 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: so like the the front row will still be like 278 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: Vogue editors and that kind of thing. But as we 279 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: were saying, more and more, we're just seeing so many 280 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: more influencers in front row because they have the reach, 281 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: they have the audience. That's where people are watching it 282 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: from on their phones, which makes sense, but it's really 283 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: funny because they will be this is spicy, and this isn't. 284 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone's done this this year. This 285 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: isn't to do with anything. I don't know if there's 286 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: been any gossip about it. But when I was going, 287 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: it was kind of funny because my editor that I 288 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: went with would tell me how people would like push 289 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,239 Speaker 1: into the front row, so you when you get invited, 290 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: you'll get your seat on your invitation, so it'll be 291 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: like row B twelve, like that'll kind of sometimes it 292 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: doesn't give you a number. Sometimes it just gives you 293 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: your row, and sometimes it will give you a number. 294 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: But people would just wing it and just sit down 295 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: in the front row. And when I was going, you 296 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: just see all these people squished in the front row 297 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: from people that were like fuck it, yeah, in the 298 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: front row and see what makes me move? And I 299 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: just find it really funny. Yeah, it's definitely bold. 300 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, because sometimes people in the front row get a 301 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: goodie bag or something as well. I think you're just 302 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: taking someone's goodie bag like that technic. Yeah, sometimes there 303 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: will be like the row a will get like a 304 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: little goodie bag of like accessories or something. 305 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like people will just sit there and be like 306 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, And I'm like, wow, I could never 307 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: have the balls to do that, but yeah, it's kind 308 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: of funny. It's a funny way to do it. So 309 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: how much does it cost to go to fashion Week? 310 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: According to The Daily Telegraph, designers spend one hundred k 311 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: plus to show at Australian Fashion Week with no guarantee 312 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: of return. Well huge, right, with the average Australian Fashion 313 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: Week show costing more than one hundred thousand dollars to produce. 314 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: Designers say there's no longer certainty the hype will translate 315 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: to sales. That's also like, I don't know if that 316 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: number is including hair, makeup, models, marketing, like people sometimes 317 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: in creators to come backstage and get content on the 318 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: show that I really would love to know how many 319 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: designers have made profit. There's many ways you can look 320 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: at profit though, because M on Holiday, for example, I've 321 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: seen that show on a lot of people's that was 322 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: such a social media page and it was incredible that 323 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: I started following M on Holiday because of seeing it 324 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: around and I really really liked the pieces that I'm like, 325 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: you would look at that as profit, but it's not 326 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: monetary profit. Yeah, it's like marketing profit that I'm like, 327 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: I wonder how brand do calculate whether or not it 328 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: was worth it? Yeah, because we do see brands do 329 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: it year on you like Beck and Bridge, Yeah exactly, 330 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: and John Paul got yeah yeah yeah, which is so interesting. 331 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 3: But again it just goes to show like how much 332 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: work and money goes into. 333 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: Something that may only last a few minutes. Yeah, yeah, 334 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: that's crazy, isn't it. Like think of all the hours 335 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: designing every piece, and the stress and the game going 336 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: through what models you're going to use, choosing your hair 337 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: and makeup, and the stress. Yeah too stressful for me? Yeah? Good, 338 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: never for me. 339 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: Props to every designer for showing up fashion week as attendees. 340 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: It looks a bit different. The main cost, I think 341 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: is really your outfit, but it's like a super wide spectrum. 342 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: So this year Pop Sugar interviewed people at fashion week 343 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: on how much they spent on what they were wearing, 344 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: and there were some people saying, you know, four thousand, 345 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: and there were some people saying zero dollars. So I 346 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: think it was really cool seeing all the people that 347 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: were like, oh, I just got this out of my wardrobe. Yeah, 348 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: like I'm just re wearing these pieces, and then there 349 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: were other people going to do that again. I thought 350 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: it was really cool seeing people be really open about 351 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: how they were just wearing things from their wardrobe or 352 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: re wearing pieces. And then also we were seeing people 353 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: be a little bit more open about like loans and gifting. 354 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: So what happens before fashion week is like pr agencies 355 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: will like email people and they'll open up like a 356 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: gifting house and you basically go in and look at 357 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: all the clothing and just pick and choose what you 358 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: want to wear, and it's like agreed upon that you're 359 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: like tag or you know, because they're getting pre marketing 360 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: basically with you wearing their outfits. 361 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, which I think is a fair trade. 362 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: But it's good that people are being more open about 363 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: that because, you know, we have spoken about how you know, 364 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: a lot of people do feel pressure are seeing, you know, 365 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: especially content creators and people who work in the fashion 366 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 3: space who are always wearing the latest trends and wearing 367 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: amazing outfits and it's like, yeah, well they may not 368 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: even actually be able to afford it because it's been 369 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 3: gifted to them. 370 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: My first fashion week, I think this is in like 371 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: twenty and eighteen, I was wearing the Uglies. I was 372 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: wearing these red boots that I couldn't even walk in. 373 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: I fell down my driveway. Were they like kind of 374 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: a Swedi sock boot? Yeahs, And so they were like 375 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: that kind of stretchy material and it was this pointed 376 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: stiletto red boot that I was walking down my driveway 377 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: and absolutely eight fucking concrete and I was. 378 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: No one was. 379 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: Around, but I knew and I was wearing white pants 380 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: and then I had to go back upstairs and get 381 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: changed because I had like got dirt over my white hats. 382 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: And I think another outfit I was wearing that like 383 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: Brixton truck a cap. Yeah, the train hat that we 384 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: all had. But like that's fashion for you. Like you're 385 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna look back on outfits that you were and you're like, 386 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: what are you doing well. 387 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: I think Refinery twenty nine did a carousel and it 388 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: was like looking back. 389 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: At all of the looks yeah in fashion. 390 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: Week, and I think they went back to like twenty fourteen, 391 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: and it was really interesting seeing the looks that they 392 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 3: picked for each year that sort of represented the fashion 393 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: of the year, and it's like it does change. I 394 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: actually also saw like quite a few people who were 395 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: getting interviewed in box pops and stuff, being like, oh, yeah, 396 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: this is an old piece from years ago, or you know, 397 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: I even recognized pieces from some of the people that 398 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: I follow, and I'm like, I've seen you wear that 399 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 3: before and you're wearing it again. 400 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: Or they'd be like, yeah, this was my sister's and. 401 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 3: I borrowed it from her, Like I was just like 402 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: more of that, Yeah, more of that chat please? 403 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah. I think like, if you want 404 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: to buy something to wear to fashion week, that's your prerogative. 405 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: But I really did enjoy seeing how many people were like, yeah, no, 406 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: I already owned this. I thought that was cool. So 407 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: some of our favorite trends street style and on the runway, Yeah, 408 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: I love it. The most common colors I've seen, which 409 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm very happy about the way that I will determine 410 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: a trend was how I got taught by my old editor, 411 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: And it's if you see it across three shows, or 412 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: if you see it like across you know, street style 413 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: and then two shows, it's got to be kind of 414 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: across multiple things. Was how I was taught. And I've 415 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: seen so much pink, which pink has not traditionally been 416 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: a color that I've enjoyed in my wardrobe, but I 417 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: am on the bandwagon. I just love how it's been styled. 418 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: I love how it's been worked in both feminine ways 419 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: and a little bit more grungier ways and a little 420 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: bit more like embellishment. It's like bows or like ruffles 421 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Yeah, and then more outputs are 422 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: just all of it's pink. Yeah, and I just love it. 423 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: I think it looks so good. 424 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: It's so cute. 425 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: And it's funny because at the end of last year, 426 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: when we were doing our like trend predictions for the 427 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: year and whatever, we were like that Barbie Court, it's over, 428 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 3: bah bah, and I'm like, it's not. 429 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: She's here to stay, calling it is what's over. 430 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but wearing but wearing all pink is here 431 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: to stay, yeah, which I like as well as red 432 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: and green yeah, which like a two of my favorite colors. 433 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, yeah, I was telling sal 434 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: I did my with AI. I did my what's it 435 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: called my season? Oh yeah, your color Analyson, Yeah that one. Yeah. 436 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: And I just did it with the AI app that 437 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: we mentioned in our AI episode and yeah, I'm a 438 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: true Autumn. And so it was like red green, and 439 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: I was like sweet, perfect, yea, it's all we need. Amazing. 440 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: And then the other one that's been my favorite, which 441 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: is never going to go anywhere, but it was suiting. 442 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: I was seeing so many people wearing suiting, but in 443 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: different ways like that it's elevating, it's evolving and I 444 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: just I think it's a home run every time it is. 445 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: It's classic, Okay, some of my favorites from the runway, 446 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: but also straight style metallic. So we saw this at 447 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: Beckhambridge and also the Acla show as well, and I 448 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: saw quite a few people rocking metallic, especially in accessories, 449 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 3: in shoes and in handbags, lots of silver, but in 450 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: the Aklas show they also had gold metallic, which I 451 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: was like, I feel like we haven't seen as much 452 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: in recent years and I love it. 453 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: I feel like it just gives like. 454 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: A rock and roll edge to any look and instantly 455 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: elevates any look, which I loved. And then also texture 456 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: so across like a few different things, but some examples 457 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 3: like quilted materials, lots of ruffles and chul and also 458 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: layering and layering different textures as well. So we saw 459 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: this on the House of Campbell and Akla runways and 460 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 3: then in the street style as well, which I just love, 461 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: especially for Winter two because you can layer and play 462 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 3: with different textures and stuff. 463 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then some of our favorite best dress included 464 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: charlene Y Davies who did the serving of the table 465 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: with the croissants truly so like literally, and I saw 466 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: an interview that she said she got the tablecloth from 467 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: like Spotlight. 468 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: That's it. 469 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: I just grabbed the croissants from her favorite cafe and 470 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to beat you when I 471 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: grow up. 472 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: It was giving like Beauty and the Beast, which I loved, 473 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 3: like be our guest. 474 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: That's I was just like, this is amazing. 475 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: I really loved it. It's very whimsical that, Oh my gosh. 476 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: And also Bianca Hunt. I saw a photo of her 477 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: taken by a Refinery twenty nine and I sent it 478 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: to her and I literally was like, I'm obsessed with you. Yeah. 479 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: I was like, how dare you look? I was wearing like. 480 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: This beautiful, like turquoise hooded outfit. 481 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: It was stunny. And I mean she always slice. Yeah, 482 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 1: she knows what she's doing. That's why we had her 483 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: on to do a style inspo podcast. Yeah and no 484 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: back and listen to that. Yeah, and Riley Hempsen and 485 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: Zig's mum maka Carmen, Oh my god. Hotties, Yeah, hotties 486 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: across the board. 487 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: Joey Malcolm was incredible, was wearing incredible across the whole week, 488 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: but one particular look I loved was this like ruffled 489 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 3: pink top and red skirt moment and it was like 490 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: ruffled and had big bows on that. Yeah, pink and 491 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: red very on trend and was just like so dramatic. 492 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: But I'm really like cute seeing girly, but I feel 493 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: like the way that she styled it in her hair 494 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: and everything gave it a bit of edge was really cool. 495 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 3: Maggie's our who we love, did like a photo dump 496 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: of a bunch of looks, and every single one I 497 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: was like, yes, yes, yes, And I didn't see all 498 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: the details, but like she's really into like dtainable and 499 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: slow fashion, so I just know that so many of. 500 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: Them would have been like vintage pieces. Yeah, yeah, so 501 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: very cool. 502 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: Maxine Wild always a hit, always a hit, and to 503 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 3: Tender Lunar as well, who were having on the show 504 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 3: coming up. Sneak peak, sneak peak, but so many cute looks, 505 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: but my favorite was like this ruffled white. 506 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: Top that was long paired with jeans. Ah see. I 507 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: like when the outfits are kind of wearable, like when 508 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: you can see yourself wearing the outfit, because I like 509 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: looking at these things in the street style and the 510 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: shows for like inspiration for myself. I don't necessarily feel 511 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: like I gravitate to the looks that are so far 512 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: high fashion because I'm like, I can't. I don't know 513 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: how I could wear that. I don't quite see myself 514 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: in that, Whereas I like the looks that I can 515 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: see myself in. Yeah, I'd be like I own pieces 516 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: similar to that, exactly. I could do something like that, 517 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: like that's where I like all the peaks and the bees, Yeah, exactly. 518 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: And with that one it was like a very dramatic, beautiful, 519 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: whimsical type and then with Jans which I'm just like 520 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 3: it was a sligh yeud. 521 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: But I think this has definitely been one of the 522 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: biggest fashion weeks we've seen in years. I think Fashion 523 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: Week was really touch and go during and after COVID. 524 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really I. 525 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: Didn't know if they were going to keep doing it, 526 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: to be honest, because I think there was one year 527 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: and like there were roads that were empty that I 528 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: feel like it's potentially exiting its flop era. Yeah, especially 529 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: this year. This year it was a big bang. 530 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it seems like a lot of people are 531 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: talking about it. A lot of people were going all 532 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: of the street Style was amazing. 533 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: All of their outlets as well, like Pedestrian, Refinery, Pop Sugar, Yeah, 534 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, stylish new kids on the block. They were 535 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: all there. Yeah. But I think one really important thing 536 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: to note with Fashion Week, and something that I really 537 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: wanted to also acknowledge in this episode, is how much 538 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: it is still dealing with a lack of inclusivity. I 539 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: saw a post from Kate Was who reposted an article 540 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: she wrote back in twenty twenty one with the caption 541 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm so tired. So here's an article I wrote for 542 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: Pedestrian TV in twenty twenty one, and I'm just going 543 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: to read out a portion of it. It is a 544 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: bit long, but I think it's important to discuss after pay. 545 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: Australian Fashion Week showed some exceptional diversity this year that 546 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: fills me with hope and excitement for the future. We 547 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: were graced with shows run and created by First Nations 548 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: designers with all indigenous models. We saw trance models and 549 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: even some age diversity amid the shows I attended. But 550 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: one thing I found lacking yet again was sized diversity. 551 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: Going into Australian Fashion Week this year as a guest, 552 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: I was excited an honored to be among those invited. 553 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: I really enjoy fashion, and my excitement stemmed from the 554 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: AAFW panels and discussions around the importance of diversity. At 555 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: the start of the week. While I wasn't expecting shows 556 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: to be as diverse as the likes of Rhianna's Savage Expente, 557 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting what we got three plus size models 558 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: and a sprinkle of models above a size eight. This 559 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: time of year, it becomes so apparent that my size 560 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: still isn't recognized, accepted or desirable in the Australian fashion game, 561 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: and that is a very familiar weight on my shoulders 562 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: that I've been caring for years. When I was first 563 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: thinking about attending AFW, my mind raced over the very 564 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: few brands that I know stock a size eighteen. The 565 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: race was on to find something age appropriate that wasn't frumpy, 566 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: oversized and covered in roses with a cold shoulder detail. 567 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: This year, among the age ability and racial diversity, only 568 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: three out of seventy brands catered for a size eighteen, 569 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: even if there was only a handful that didn't stop 570 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: at a size twelve, which was definitely reflected in the 571 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: choice of models by the end of the week, I 572 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: had lost so much hope for myself and women that 573 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: wear twenty plus that I almost cried tears of joy 574 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: when I saw my beautiful friend and bellow Vvian's model 575 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: Lauren mcn math walk out in swimwear one size eighteen, 576 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: model one, and I felt grateful. 577 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, question mark and the fact that they've reposted it 578 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: this year, you know what three years later? Yeah, and 579 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: it's still the same. I think we do have a 580 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: long long way to go, And I just think, like, 581 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: can we please start representing the people that exist in 582 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 3: the world, Like we want everyone wants to shop and 583 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: wear these fashions, and like they exist and they're here, 584 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: so can we please start reflecting that. 585 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I think as much as it has been 586 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: such a pleasure watching, I really you know, I think 587 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: it's important to recognize that the work's not quite done yet. 588 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: I might see work being done, but I feel like 589 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: there's more to do. Absolutely, But yeah, all right, shall 590 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: we get into advice with the chicks? 591 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 3: I can't stand my boyfriend's sister. I've been dating my 592 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: boyfriend for three years and his sister is only a 593 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: year younger than us, despite only being a year younger 594 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: than us. She is quite immature and very dependent. When 595 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 3: her mum isn't around, her brother has to do everything 596 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: for her. She is weirdly possessive of him and is 597 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: always guilt tripping her brother into making us spend more 598 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 3: time with her, even when we have our own plans. 599 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: I do love her, but it's starting to get on 600 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: my nerves, like I'm competing for my boyfriend's attention with 601 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 3: his sister. She is very immature, and I wouldn't be 602 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: able to have a conversation with her. 603 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: What should I do? 604 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: That's so tricky spicy, I think, like at the end 605 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: of the day, that is his family. Mmm, Like, I know, 606 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: it is a bit annoying, especially if you want to 607 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: spend like quality time with your boyfriend. And we don't 608 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: really have heap like any examples of how she's really immature. 609 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: So that's like a bit tricky to kind of no. 610 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: Maturity is in the eye of the beholder. 611 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: Seriously, it's kind of like a bit of a spectrum 612 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: of what people find immature. Like I find fart jokes 613 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: really funny, but people would find that really immature. Oh 614 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: my god, I have story to tell you later. Oh no, 615 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: I already told you when I was in the public bath, 616 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and someone was in there and I was like, 617 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: oh no, and I washed my hands really quickly to 618 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: get out. Anyway, I digress just sort I'd share that 619 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: with the chicks too, just being really immature. But I 620 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: think that's the thing. It's like, it is their family. 621 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: And I've dated people where there were certain family members 622 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: that I was like, I wouldn't necessarily spend time with 623 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: you if I wasn't dating this person. Yeah, it's like 624 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: your own family. That's previous people that I've dated, by 625 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: the way, but on the record, yeah, just so we 626 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: don't go digging. But at the end of the day, 627 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: that is their family. And I never said anything about 628 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: it because that thing that can be really tricky. It 629 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: really can put a distance between you and your partner. 630 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: I think one of the ways that you can kind 631 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: of work around it is expressing that you want to 632 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: spend more one on one time, like more quality time 633 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: that is just the two of you, and really expressing 634 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: the importance of that, and then if that doesn't happen, 635 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 1: then you can open the conversation up of I said 636 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: that I want to spend more one on one time 637 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: with you and that didn't happen today. Can we spend 638 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: more one on one time, like next time, can we 639 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: make sure that it's just one on one so that 640 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: way it's not about a family member, it's not about 641 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: a relative, but it is something like if you love 642 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: this person and you want to be with them forever 643 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: ever ever, you're going to have to get over it. Yeah, 644 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: you have to find some way to like move past 645 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: it or like get over not get over it because 646 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: like you're just feeling with it, you're being into valid 647 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: but just have like I don't know, copy mechanisms at 648 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: Christmas exactly. 649 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I know some people that will have issues 650 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: with like their parents. 651 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 2: In law or whatever, and they know that, like, Okay, when. 652 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: I go to lunch with their family, their mom's going 653 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: to be like really protective over my boyfriend and being 654 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: like my baby blah blah blah, and just going into 655 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: that being like, Okay, this is going to happen. 656 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: I know it's going to happen. Let me have like 657 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: a little winge about it to myself beforehand, let it 658 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: all out. 659 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: Journal it something, then burn it so now I'll find it, 660 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 3: eat it, and then go in knowing like, Okay, I'm 661 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 3: only going to be here for an hour for lunch 662 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 3: and then I can just like and let it go. 663 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: Like I get where you're coming from one hundred percent, 664 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: and I don't want you to feel invalid that it's like, 665 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: oh no, you just have to get over No, it 666 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: sounds incredibly annoyed. That's not at all what we're saying, 667 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: because it is really frustrating when you think that you're 668 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: going to spend quality time with your partner and it's 669 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. But they're not going anywhere. Yeah, that's 670 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: the thing, is like they're they're going to be around forever. 671 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: That is like his little sister, and she probably does 672 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: look up to him as her big brother, whether or 673 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: not there's only a year difference. Yeah, if she. 674 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: Is really dependent on your boyfriend for things that you 675 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 3: feel like maybe she shouldn't, you always could encourage your 676 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 3: boyfriend like, oh, it actually might be better for her 677 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 3: if you don't do that for her, because you might 678 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 3: be enabling her not to do something for herself. And like, 679 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 3: if you have an example with your own sleepling or 680 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 3: with a friend or something where you've had to do that, 681 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 3: you could bring that into the conversation. So it's not 682 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 3: that you're like attacking her or saying she's incompetent or anything, 683 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 3: but you know that you're trying to help her and 684 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: you're also trying to help him, because yeah, people either 685 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 3: with siblings, people know that their sibling is like that, 686 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 3: and they're probably they've probably said that to you themselves, 687 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 3: They've pointed out their siblings flaws, being like, yeah, I know, 688 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 3: they're like, you know, really dependent or blah blah, or 689 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 3: they're completely blind to it because they just think that 690 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: that's how their sibling is and they're happy with that. 691 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 3: So it could also depend on you know, your boyfriend's 692 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 3: perception of their little sister to how you broach this 693 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 3: conversation or how you approach you know, this dynamic. 694 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 2: It's very tricky. 695 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: It's such a tricky line because you really risk shooting 696 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: yourself in the foot if you talk too far. 697 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also remember that even if even if your 698 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 3: partner does say something about their own family or their sibling. 699 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 1: They can say it because it's their sibling or their parents. 700 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: So you can like nod along and be like that 701 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 3: would be so annoying, And I get that, But Yeah, 702 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 3: don't dump on top of it. 703 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: Don't be like yeah, and when they did this, that 704 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: was yeah, don't do that because that's not your place. 705 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: We have a friend that that happened to them, and 706 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: they like opened the can of worms because they thought 707 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: the door was like open and then it was bad. Yep. 708 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, hope that helps. I know it's probably a 709 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: bit not probably not maybe the antsy you're looking for, 710 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: but it is. It is one of those situations where 711 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: it is what it is. Yeah, yeah, maybe you could 712 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: try find some common ground. There's got to be something, something, something, Yeah. 713 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it sounds like she's really nice. She 714 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 3: said that you do like her, But I think that's 715 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 3: the thing. You probably can't change her or her relationship 716 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: with her brother and your boyfriend, but you can potentially 717 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 3: change and have some control over how you deal with 718 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 3: the situation in. 719 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: The moment and how much you let it annoy you. 720 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is. 721 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: It does sound very annoying. So I'm sorry you're dealing 722 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: with that, and thanks for writing in. 723 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: Thanks Chikichuk. All right, well that's a rap It's a 724 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: rapity rare rapity rep dip on this episode of two 725 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: Broken Chucks. 726 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 2: Thanks to you chicks for having us in your ear holes. 727 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: We love to be here. 728 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 2: And thanks to m I K Made for making today's 729 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 2: episode happened. 730 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: Love Yeah Bye, cheeks Bye