WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 27 May 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:07.400 From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live, Thank you, Sharry, Yes, 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.240 very powerful television tomorrow and Josh Friedenberg seven o'clock easton 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.000 into Sharry straight after, who will of course have her 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.880 traditional spectacular take, and she continues to move the ball 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.160 forward on fearless stories. I love that lady, and I'm 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.079 so pleased that she's there as the main meal to 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.200 our dessert, the entree to our main meal. I don't 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:26.440 care how you're eit it, as long as you eat 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.360 the full buffet, which goes of course from Chris Kenny 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.240 all the way to read a penny before we've done 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.240 each and every night. Now it is a public holiday 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.839 in the Act today. Did you not notice that we 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.839 were without public service for a bit of day today 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:45.400 because it's the start of Reconciliation Week, and today Reconciliation 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:51.760 Day took place with all sorts of wonderful activities that 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.160 I'm sure we're entertaining to everyone who was involved there. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:59.400 But of course the reason Reconciliation Day, which always is 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.280 a public hold, but is particularly marked at the moment, 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.039 it's because, of course, the Act was the only place 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.080 that voted yes last year in the Prime Minister's four 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.160 hundred and fifty million dollar referendum. The only place in 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.040 the country that voted yes Dor then territory where the 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:19.760 indigenous population is quite significant, no where the paternalistic lefties 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.240 are well banged. Of course, a big win. And there's 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.000 lots of events that will take place in Canberra, not 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.199 just today but all week about Reconciliation Week, and school 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.120 kids will be seeing this, that and the other, and 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:34.039 lots of speeches. But what about outside of Canbra How 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:39.200 are some people recognizing Reconciliation Week. Well, of course there's 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.800 again events and speeches and all the rest of it, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.840 but what about what's happening in our schools? This dad 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.920 took to TikTok to explain exactly what your kids and 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:54.080 grandkids are being told to do behind closed doors by 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.240 the same people who teach them one plus one equals too. 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:00.960 My seven year old daughter came home today and she 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.240 told me that her and her classmates had to participate 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.000 in a group apology to the Stolen Generation. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.320 Seriously, now, as you know, I've got a six year 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:13.440 old and I've got a nine year old. I don't 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.560 know what happens in their classes, you know, I've been 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.079 in parks with the past couple of days, but I'll 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.520 certainly be asking them about it tomorrow. I certainly like 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.679 their teachers, and I don't expect that nonsense happening at 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.639 their school, which is a public school. But clearly people 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:30.360 are again trying to tell the story of Australia to 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.320 the youngest people amongst us in a certain way. That 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:38.360 means it will be inevitable that it is invasion day, 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:43.120 that there is no story whatsoever about every day after 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:48.160 seventeen seventy, after seventeen eighty eight. Instead, these of course 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.000 will become the future Greens voters, and then the future 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.320 labor staffers, and then eventually the people that will be 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.560 around in labor governments. But again that dad continues. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.400 Now, I have no problem with any of my children 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.760 learning about it. That's completely fine. What I won't tolerate, 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.760 and what I won't accept, is any of my children 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:10.679 being forced to apologize for something that they had absolutely 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:11.680 nothing to do with. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.080 What is unreasonable? What is unreasonable about what he said? 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.959 And it's exactly how I feel, which is all of 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.920 us wanted our kids to learn the truth, the real truth, 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.000 as uncomfortable as it all is. But also we want 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.120 to make sure that we have a scenario that every kid, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.360 regardless of their background, regardless of whether they have links 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.760 to sixty thousand years or sixty days in the country, 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.600 that they realize that together the history book is nothing 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.920 but blank pages. It is to be written on together. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:46.360 There's not a margin drawn into every page two hundred 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.680 years into the future with what, of course took place 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.800 more than two hundred years ago. But I've got to say, 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.640 I think this dad speaks on the behalf of all 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.680 dads and granddads when they hear this stuff. Okay, look, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.160 I get it. I get it. I understand. Maybe not 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.080 the way I was taught, maybe not the way my 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.760 parents were taught, but I get it. My kids are 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.320 going to learn slightly differently. But I agree when he 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:10.000 says this. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.960 Stop playing your woke games with our children. Our children 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.720 are already being welcome to the country that they're born in, 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.159 and now they're being told that they're personally responsible for 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:22.440 those horrific events. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.279 Now here's what I guarantee. I don't know anything else 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.719 about that guy. Apart from that TikTok video. I don't 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.839 know anything else that's on his feed and anything else, 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.080 but I guarantee you there'll be the little lefty hit 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:34.919 job that's going to come out and work out or 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.120 he said this thing two weeks ago and this thing through. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:37.480 No. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.120 That point there is what I focus on, and that 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.000 I think is what the majority of people watching this 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:48.520 program would agree with. Now the Prime Minister plays into 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.039 this story because what was it that is one of 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.160 his central promises and reasons for being where you can 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.640 check his own Twitter feed to find that, the same 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.880 Twitter feed that of course told us they were going 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.120 to do something about cost of living. But still Australians 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.520 deserve a government that leads and brings the country together, 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.800 not one that divides us against each other. From the 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.680 bloke who spent four hundred and fifty million dollars on 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:14.360 a national conversation that you bet you divided people where 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:19.919 the people surrounding the Prime Minister called people dinosaurs, dickheads, racists, 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.160 you get it, when it ended up being the majority 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.360 of the population. Again, the Prime Minister very clear here, 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:30.719 my priority is to bring Australians together. Take your pick 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.400 that a vision has never been worse, and of course 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:40.839 all on his watch. Now a couple of years ago, 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:45.920 the Prime Minister went to Ukraine where he carried with 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.440 him the blank check on the behalf of our country 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.480 to support Ukraine in its war with Russia. Now again, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.520 before the lefties run off and go oh that's a 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.200 talking point, right wing talking point. He wants to abandon you. No, 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.440 I don't. I'm not pro Russia in any way, shape 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.159 or form. Right, Let's be very clear, they're the bad 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.200 guys in this fight, okay. And Australia, well, yeah, we're 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.159 putting our money, but do we really need the selfies 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:08.599 that go along with it. Well, of course we do, 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.920 because this bloke is all about the selfie, all about 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:15.160 the image. Right. But it couldn't be clearer. Olbows all 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.120 in on helping Ukraine, right. 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.560 Will remain with you for as long as this takes. 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.840 So could somebody please explain that something that Australia has 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.200 an awful lot of, which is coal, and the Ukrainians 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.240 have asked us, not one, not two, not four, but 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.400 six months ago for coal to be used in their 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.800 power stations so they can keep the lights on and 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.200 keep society as close to normal as possible in the 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.880 middle of a war when they are being attacked relentlessly 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:48.960 by Russia that we are ignoring the plea. Now again, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:50.560 this is not a Prime minister who's wanting to sit 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.560 on the sidelines. He's willing to go to Ukraine. Cut 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.400 all the president, take the photo ops, hand over the money, 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:02.080 Well why not the coal. Let's read from the stories 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.880 which are around today in the Channel nine newspapers. The 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.279 stark reality is, and this of course is the Ukrainian 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.520 ambassador speaking here, is that the stark reality is that 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.360 no power plant in Ukraine has been exempt from Russian 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:18.200 targeting or not sustained damage. This is having a direct 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:22.000 impact on the Ukrainian people's quality of life. You would 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:27.320 appreciate the need for energy security, including ensuring Ukraine's remaining 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:32.040 hydro thermal generation capacity Kulfi power plants has increased as 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.440 a result of the most recent wave of attacks. Therefore, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.800 I ask again for Australia's consideration. This is a letter 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:44.440 from the Ukrainian government to the Australian government. Now, Penny Wong, 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.160 of course, is an answering questions about all of this. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.960 Who knows what she's up to right now, But spokespeople 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.640 on her behalf say this a spokesperson for the Department 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.240 of Foreign Affairs and Trade. The Australian government is actively 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.920 considering ways in which we can provide additional support to 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:04.559 meet Ukraine's hype priority needs. Well, here's an idea. They've 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:09.200 asked for our coal. They asked for it six months ago, 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:14.920 five four, three, two one now months ago, yet Australia 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:19.280 doesn't reply. Now, of course we all know that the 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.800 enlightened left where they can't stand coal. But if it 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.600 is literally the difference between keeping the lights on or 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.400 not in Ukraine, and we're supposed to be on the 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.200 side of Ukraine, could somebody explain why we are not 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.400 doing this. Deputy Prime Minister was out and about today 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.560 he was asked in surprise surprise word salad came back. 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.120 Well, again, we work really closely with the Ukrainian government 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.760 about how best we can provide support and provide it 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.440 in a practical way. There's an absolute understanding in the 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.240 conversations that we have with Ukraine about the support we're 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.120 providing and how best we can do it, and that 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.960 includes both military and non military support. The support that 0:08:56.000 --> 0:09:00.560 we are providing now is very much focused on military 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:07.360 support around allowing Ukraine to prosecute this conflict with Russia, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.880 and that is where our focus is, and that is 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.680 where Ukraine wants our focus to be. 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.880 No, no, no, they want that focus, but they also 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.880 want our coal. I keep using the term gas lighting 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.160 because it's what evil people do to tell you that 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.840 down is up and eventually you start to question yourself. No, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.880 the straight here, the black and white. The easy to 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:34.560 understand is that the Ukrainian ambassador has leaked the letter 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.440 to the newspaper because the government has not responded to 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:44.240 the request for coal for six months. Yeah, the Deputy 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.880 Prime Minister turns around and says, well, we're actively working 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.520 with them and we're giving them what they want. No, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:53.880 you're not how many issues, how many days, how many months? 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.439 Is this always the way where the government just pretends 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:00.520 that what you can see with your your own two 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.880 eyes you can't see that you are supposed to completely 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.880 ignore what is before your own eyes, which is that 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:13.920 the Ukrainian ambassador wants kal the Australian government won't give 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:19.080 it to him. Why who knows if it's all linked 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:20.920 to climate change and all the rest of it. I'll 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.240 give you the tip when your country is being invaded 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:31.160 by Russia, the priority of electric cars and renewable energy 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.840 goes out the back door. If this is the technology 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.160 that is required to keep the lights on so they 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:42.520 can plan the defense of their own country, give them 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.800 the kaal. We'll talk about it. We've sent it a 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.760 Matt Cannavan in a couple of moments time and what 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.680 is going to be a big time debate tonight this 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:54.160 Monday here on Paulmurray Life. Now we know where this 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.600 government is headed and it is most likely towards minority status. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.320 Now their assumption is that they can and bs and 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.520 buy their way out and somehow hold on to a majority. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:08.679 But unlike previous governments which have had ninety MPs when 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.920 they get swept into office, meaning they can make some 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:16.400 unpopular decisions, burn a backbench, but still be in majority. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.120 This mob, remember, only won seventy seven seats of the election. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.120 They won a by election after that, so they have 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:26.640 seventy eight seats in the parliament, which means they do 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.520 not have a massive backbench to burn. And every single 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:36.280 first term government in modern Australian history loses grounded their 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.120 first election. Now they may well come back at the second, 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.520 or the third, or the fourth and become bigger and 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.760 stronger and stronger. Remember John Howard won in ninety ninety six, 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.440 or the massive backbench. He burnt a lot of it 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:52.080 in ninety eight, but then he even after losing the 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.200 popular vote to Kim Beazley and Labry ninety ninety eight, 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.439 he ended up winning the upper and lower houses in 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.280 two thousand and four. But the history tells us that 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.800 the most likely outcome of the next federal election is 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.000 the Labor Party losing seats, and when they don't have 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:08.880 that many to lose, we are talking about the almost 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:14.160 inevitability of a minority government. Now, the Prime Minister will 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.440 try to tell you that he deserves to remain a 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:20.480 majority government because they're giving thirty six dollars a week 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.960 in average tax cuts and twenty five dollars a month 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:29.360 in credits to power companies to take it off your bill. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.000 We've said that our priority is cost of living, putting 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.400 that downward pressure on inflation. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.120 But how many times have we shown you, We shown 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.280 you the data, we show you the reality. Too little, 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.200 too late for an awful lot of people around the country. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.520 Just a quarter, remember, a quarter of the electorate says 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.120 that the budget is actually going to help them positively 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.600 when it comes to the cost of living. So they're 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.960 all out there talking what they talk, but the reality 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:55.880 on the ground is the government is certainly not living 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.959 up to what it promised to be. Now, there's always 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.160 a question after a first term government. Well, we don't 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.120 have a great history of getting rid of first term government, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.800 no matter how bad they can actually be. So yes, 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.160 the minority question is just how deep do they go 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.640 in a minority? Now, they'll be a couple of independence. 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.400 If they're just a couple of seats short, then we'll 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.839 be able to put them back in. And they're not 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.719 particularly controversial, so they're not going to go that far 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.640 to the left. But the more seats they lose, the 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.120 further out to the left they have to go through 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.640 the Teals over to the Greens to stay in any 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.880 sort of power. So poll in the Financial Review today 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.640 really fascinating about how their data of this worked. It's 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.439 a mix of sensus information. It's a lot deeper than 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.520 just hey, if an election was held this weekend, what 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.319 would you do now? The suggestion is that Labor would 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.160 lose seats right and they would be able to hold 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.480 onto seventy three so they're well and truly going to 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.040 be in the box seat for minority government. That's the reality, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.559 because the Teals don't look like they're going to go anywhere. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.040 The Liberal Party will win a little here, lose a 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:52.880 little there, and I'll get into that detail in a 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.240 second or two, but basically they're not going to be 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:56.800 able to get any win near the seventy six. So 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:01.240 this is how I've mentioned for the whole time about 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.199 our dissatisfaction and disappointment and agro at times with the 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.960 Prime Minister, is that we're also sensible enough to know 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.080 that the only way the coalition starts to get competitive 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.160 is if there's some sort of data that shows this 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.280 that the Teals are melting away. Now, if the Teals 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.480 melt away, then that fifty three number quickly moves into 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.240 the sixties, and then there's a whole bunch of seats 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.400 which in this margin are referred to as too close 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.160 to call. But let's have a look here again with 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.360 some detail. Had four or one thousand voters to who 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:30.840 they spoke to, and then they mapped on a whole 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.160 bunch of data on top of that, released the year 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.480 aut from the election. The pole of four thousand and 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.160 forty voters across every lower House electorate shows the Coalition 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.400 is on track to win some Labour seats like Robertson 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.800 on the Central Coast Gilmore, which of course Andrew Constance 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.880 is going for after getting votes towards him at a 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.080 time when the Limbs were losing them at the last election, 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.000 and they'd be able to continue on in being pretty 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.840 popular in Tasmania. Getting Lines which is the seat about 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:02.120 the middle of Tasmania, the opposition looks like they haven't 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.240 been able to sweep away the Teals. That said, in 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.960 all of this there's nine seats that are referred to 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.800 as too close to call. Now again, I'm not going 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.000 to sit hit to night and tell you which way 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.080 they're going to fall. But in all of that polling, 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:19.040 fifty fifty fifty fifty fifty fifty fifty fifty fifty to fifty, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.360 seat after seat after seat after seat. So the difference 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:27.000 between a government being able to have a historic victory 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.440 where they grow the number of people on their back bench, 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.520 or they are pushed into such a position of minority 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.840 that the Koks end up in charge rather than the 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.600 Koks who are already in charge well, we'll all wait 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.080 and see together. But the data, the data, the data 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.600 is what we like to follow on this show, no 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.560 matter at times how disappointing it may be. We'd all 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.560 like to see a change in government, certainly I would. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.200 I think this current mod's terrible and I think you'll 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.360 turn Any prime minister will do an excellent job. But 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.960 we follow the data. But it is close, very close. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.680 Nine seats, those nine seats, if they all go Labour's way, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:02.680 they bash way past the majority threshold. But the likelihood 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.240 is that some of those fifty fifties, of course go 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.440 the Coalition. But it's all about the Teals, whether they 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:10.440 roadblock them or not. Now I know everyone else has 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:11.880 had something to say about this, And there's a very 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.120 sort of clever little trick that they use over at 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.400 Channel two, which is that if all of the programs 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.120 at SKYE News at Night mention the same story, they 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.960 say they've talked about it for five hours in a row. Now, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.200 of course, you know, I'm not in charge of what 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.120 the hour before says, and I'm not in charge of 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:28.720 what the hour after me says, and I'm not in 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.640 charge of what's two hours And you get the point right, 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.720 But sometimes there are just stories that we know you're 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.800 going to be interested, and yes, we're all going to 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.440 have our little take on it. And a perfect example 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.920 of that is Lefty Laura Tingle and what she had 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.440 to say at the Lefty Sydney Writer's Festival. Now, of 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.120 course she was among the lovies, and she is one 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:51.080 of the great high priestesses of ABC loveiness. At the moment, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.600 she's the president of the National Press Club, she's on 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.120 the board of the ABC, so she's right at the 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:01.400 tippy top of her power. And she had plenty to 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.440 say at the Writer's Festival, of course, all about big 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:10.880 bad Peter Dutton and specifically the immigration conversation where Peter 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.720 Dutton has decided that this country can take a little 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.919 break from the record numbers of people that have been 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:20.400 coming into the country so infrastructure and the housing industry 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:21.360 can catch up. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.000 We are a racist calcule. It's face that we always 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.840 have been, and it's very depressing. But to give a 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:33.040 license like that I find profoundly depressing and a terrible 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:34.280 prospect for the next election. 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:44.280 Now, further to all of this, an incredible bit of 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.440 sort of I've got to be honest racism comes out 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.560 of her concern about racism. Let me play you this 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.280 bit that you may not have heard thus. 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:56.880 Far for a major point the colly that us been saying, 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.840 as Nicky says, you know everything that's going right with 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:05.120 countries because of migrants, and you know a sudden flaship 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.440 people turning up to try to read a property or 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.440 at an auction and they look a bit different. What 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.120 have you defined different as that? Basically he has given 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:16.840 them license to be abused. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:26.760 That is extraordinary. It's extraordinary because when's the last time 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:31.240 she ever actually ventured outside the OsO white Canberra bubble. 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:38.399 Because anyone in any part of suburban Australia, but the 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:42.040 capital cities of New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland, you can 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:47.000 name the rest. There are people of all different backgrounds, 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.520 with all different parents from all different parts of the 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:55.560 world who were born in Australia. There is no one 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.240 who is turning around and getting ready to abuse use 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:06.440 somebody who quote unquote looks different than Laura Tingle and 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.160 blame them for the house in Christ? Are they serious? 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:11.320 Now? 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.560 The reality again of the policy that Peter Dutton is 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.440 putting in place, I'll get to in a second. But 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:23.800 if honestly the dog whistle from the left is that 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:30.920 if you have any conversation whatsoever about whether infrastructure or 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:35.520 the existing housing market can just take another one hundred thousand, 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:39.200 two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand people onto it without 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:44.600 creating massive strain, Well that's a deliberate attempt to change 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.720 a subject. The idea that it's Peter Dutton's got some 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.280 special dog whistle that can only be heard by the 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.600 racists of Australia who will turn on the people who 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:59.719 look different than Laura Tingle is an outrageously racist thing 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.600 to say, and it shows the sign of a person 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.080 who thinks that the suburbs are just full of people 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.840 who all look the same like her, because maybe that's 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:15.000 the last time she actually went into the suburbs. Whereas 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:18.240 anyone who's grown up in the suburbs knows that they're 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:22.359 best mates. Parents might have come from Malaysia, but the 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.440 kid is just as Aussie as you are, or the 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.800 parents are just as Ousie as your I mean, come on, 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:32.520 oh no, it's Peter Duttonheath's just doing the dog whistle. 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.280 But also what I find weird here is that I've 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:41.520 never seen a major party blame everything on migration. Well, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.040 where was she when the prime minister her clearly preferred 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.240 prime minister, even though I'm pretty sure she votes Greens, 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:52.720 so eventually second preference. The Abanezi government is cutting immigration. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.200 Now I don't believe they'll actually end up cutting it 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.640 by the numbers of their promise, but they're cutting immigration. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:00.879 And what does this prime to say is one of 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.680 the reasons why we need to cut the number of 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:06.320 people that are coming into the country. Oh, that's right, housing. 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:10.879 This is a response to the fact the system is broken. 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:11.800 Do you think the. 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.760 Decision then would help housing pressures, for instance, to go 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:15.320 to one. 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:19.840 Time and in addition to that, as well as the 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.919 additional investment that we are putting into housing. Of course, 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:28.480 that is part of the context of what we're dealing 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:28.959 with here. 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:35.719 He says it's housing. Yet she goes to the Writer's 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.680 Festival and it's all Peter Dutton, Peter Dutt and Peter 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:42.600 Dutton a book, all of that rubbish. And again I 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:44.840 just can't get back to this sort of odd little 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.920 account of racism where she thinks the suburbs actually look 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.159 like and how a whole bunch of white people are 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.040 just waiting to turn on the person who looks different. 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:57.160 So the Prime Minister is going to cut immigration because 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.159 of housing. The old position leader is going to had 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:03.119