1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: On scor Wields Australia. This is the winder Panicky Show. 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panekey Show. Coming 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: up tonight. Mass union rallies cause havoc in Melbourne and Sydney. 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: A whistleblower speaks sad about the Dan and Catherine Andrews 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: crash scandal. Has Bullas offered significant losses after an astonishing 6 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: plot involving exploding pages. Army Horowitz with the latest on that, 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: and later in the hour, I'll speak of the security 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: expert about the direct link between the Democrats reckless rhetoric 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: and assassination attempts against Donald Trump. And Tonight's Left He's 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 2: losing It, features superstar Taylor Swift. 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: This is something that I know is right, and you guys, 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: I need to be on the right side of history 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: and if he doesn't win that at least at least. 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: Day time today, around fifty thousand construction workers in Melbourne 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: and a smaller number in Sydney. We're our protesting labour's 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: handling of the CFM and you saga. Several union figures 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: spoke at the rally in Melbourne. Here's some of what 18 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: they had to say. 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: We're drawing a line in the sand. 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 4: So what does that mean. 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 5: It means that we're not going to let any employer 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 5: use administration to take wages and conditions backwards. Part of 23 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 5: the campaign is to repel these thirty laws. 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, read the. 25 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 5: Thirty laws, because what do you understand today? You touched 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 5: the sea tomorrow are you going to touch another union 27 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 5: with the thirty laws? 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: Joining me now is Deputy Executive Director of the Institute 29 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: of Public Affairs Daniel wild Dan. Electrical Trades Union Victorian 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Secretary Troy Grace said employers were on notice that building 31 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: unions would strike for seventy two hours across the state 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: if companies resist that. The unions a line in the 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: sand campaign this lot, I've got to say, I used 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: to getting their way in Melbourne. In particular, what do 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: you make of the threats of further industrial action? 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 6: We'll read it as a couple of things I think 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 6: are really interesting. We're seeing basically the implosion of the 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 6: labor and union movement. As you know that the Labor 39 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 6: Party was originally established as the political arm of the 40 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 6: unions when it was first set up, and this is 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 6: a massive disruption to that. I think Basically what we're 42 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 6: seeing is the modern Labor Party no longer represents workers. 43 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 6: We've seen that also with the recently announced departure of 44 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 6: Bill Shorten on the right of the Labor Party. And 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 6: all you have to do is look at well, what 46 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 6: does a Labor Party stand for today? It stands for 47 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 6: mass migration, which suppresses wages. They stand for this climate 48 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 6: fanaticism which is destroying industry, and they're also hostile to 49 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 6: Australian values and the Australian way of life, which is 50 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 6: against the interests of working class Australians. So I think 51 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 6: this campaign by the CFMAU and other construction related industries 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 6: is going to continue for some time and it is 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 6: going to cause I think a lot of pain for 54 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 6: labor politically because there has been this cozy relationship for 55 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 6: so many years. But you know, your typical union member 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 6: today is not the blue collar worker it once was. 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 6: It's basically aging public servants that are just waiting for 58 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 6: their defined benefit schemes to be paid out. 59 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: Now, Dan more explosive claims I've emerged today about Victoria 60 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: Police's conduct after Daniel and Catherine Andrews crashed into a 61 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: teenage cyclist In twenty thirteen, the Herald Son's reporting that 62 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: former leading Senior Constable Scott Hanley said his patrol car 63 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: was en route to the ble Garry crash site with 64 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: lights and sirens when a senior constable from Rye jump 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: the core. Mister Hanley has provided a sworn statement to 66 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: lawyers for Ryan Mewlman, that's the fifteen year old at 67 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: the time who was struck by the end Andrew's a 68 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: family suv. This police officer labels the manner in which 69 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: he was pulled off the case that evening as irregular 70 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: and significant departure from standing operating procedures. Dad Andrews has 71 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: responded to yesterday's bombshell report, labeling it a set of 72 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: appalling conspiracy theories and Victoria Police DAN thus far refusing 73 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: to reopen their investigation. Is that good enough? Because that 74 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: report yesterday raised so many more questions. There were already 75 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: a lot of unanswered questions, and surely we cannot have 76 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: this saga remain in this fashion where there's no clarity 77 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: around what happened, who did what, and at who's behest. 78 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 6: That's exactly right, reader, The investigation should be reopened. I 79 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 6: think this could go down as one of the biggest 80 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 6: political scandals in Victoria's history. And that's saying something giving 81 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 6: everything that Victorians have endured over the last decade. As 82 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 6: you rightly wrote in your column for the Herald Sun Reader, 83 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 6: this is about trust in the police more than it 84 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 6: is about anything else. We saw an abusive trust throughout 85 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 6: COVID where we had a two tiered policing system, where 86 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 6: we had the Black Lives Matter protesters could go out 87 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 6: and protest. In fact, many of the police supported that 88 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 6: during lockdowns said if you were Zoe Bueller putting your 89 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 6: opinion out opposed to lockdowns, that you were arrested. And 90 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 6: many other Victorians were brutally treated by police and the 91 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 6: police were basically turned into a political operation of Daniel Andrews. 92 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 6: So I think to a lot of people in the community, 93 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 6: they see crime going up, they see this two tier 94 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 6: policing system, and now they see what appears to be 95 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 6: appears to be a monumental cover up that could go 96 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 6: to the very top of the Victorian police leadership. And 97 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 6: that's why there needs to be an investigation and a 98 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 6: cleanupt of that leadership. 99 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: And in that column I called for immunity to be 100 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: offered full immunity to any of the police officers who 101 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: may be involved in any sort of cover up if 102 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: a cover up did take place. I think, Dan, that's 103 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: the only way we are going to get some answers 104 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: on this, because this is just shaking the public's faith 105 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: in the Victorian justice system and particularly Victoria Police. Now, 106 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: for a second week in a row, Senator Pauline Hanson 107 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: has failed to have her Sex Discrimination Act Acknowledging Biological 108 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: Reality Bill considered by the Parliament. The bill would, as 109 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: the name suggests, recognize biological reality and remove protections on 110 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: the basis of gender identity from the Sex Discrimination Act. 111 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: Labour's Katie Gallagher, she's the Minister for Finance and Women, 112 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: had this to say. 113 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 7: But when you have bills that seek to harm people, 114 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 7: including young people, we will draw the line. 115 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 8: That is a red line for us. 116 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 7: We do not apologize. We know how vulnerable the diverse 117 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 7: community is, we know how they struggle. We do not 118 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 7: think the Senate is a qualified place for that debate. 119 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: Dan, I find this astonishing, this attitude that the Senate 120 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: is not qualified to debate women's rights and protecting women's 121 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: only spaces, that it's too sensitive of a discussion to 122 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: be having in the upper house of the Australian Parliament. 123 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 8: Well, that's right. 124 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 6: I mean it shows the anti democratic, anti freedom of 125 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 6: speech attitude of Labor and Senator Gallagher, who is a 126 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 6: chronic underperformer in the Senator in the Senate. You know, 127 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 6: how can you have a Minister for Women that can't 128 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 6: even define what a woman is. You've got this issue 129 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 6: with Act. She refers to harm. You know that it's 130 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 6: harming the so called community. But these are the words 131 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 6: that are used actually in the proposed misinformation laws that 132 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 6: Labor has put forward, which would basically seek to empower 133 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 6: a massive new unelected bureaucracy to shut down debate. So 134 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 6: we're getting a taste of what that. 135 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: Will look like. 136 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 6: If you're a mainstream Australian who believes that men are 137 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 6: men and women are women, and that women shouldn't be 138 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 6: having to deal with men invading their spaces and so forth, 139 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 6: then your opinion is going to be shut down. It's 140 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 6: not just going to be in Parliament, it's going to 141 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 6: be on social media if those misinformation laws are implemented. 142 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 6: We all want to be respectful of other's decisions in life. 143 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 6: But we need to be able to have a debate 144 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 6: about this. And this is just another egregious example of 145 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 6: how this government is seeking to shut down debate and 146 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 6: democracy in Australia. 147 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: And it doesn't seem to be much consideration for mainstream opinions. 148 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: Like you said, they're a whelming majority of Australians know 149 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: that men are men, women are women, and that women 150 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: deserve to have protections in their spaces. When we're talking 151 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: about women's shelters, women's changing rooms, even women's prisons and 152 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: women's sport, I mean, these are the areas where women's 153 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: rights seems to have been forgotten because people are worried 154 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: about insulting or offending certain activist groups from the trans community. 155 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: It's just madness that fifty percent of the population is 156 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: having its rights infringed upon to satisfy a tiny, tiny minority. Now, 157 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: this is very interesting from the US. A watchdog group 158 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: wants to highlight hypocrisy, and it's doing this by offering 159 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: a million dollars to Queers for Palestine or indeed any 160 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: LGBTQ advocacy organization if they will host a gay pride 161 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: parade in Gaza or the West Bank. The President of 162 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: this group New Tolerance campaign Greek Angelo said their legitimate 163 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: offer is a wake up call to Quis for Palestine 164 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: and Gaze for Gaza movements. What do you reckon, Dan? 165 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: Do you think they're going to have any anyone taking 166 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: them up on their offer? 167 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 6: Well, I won't be holding my breath, reader, And you know, 168 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 6: I think one of the things that this highlights is 169 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 6: a lot of the hypocrisy that we see and the 170 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 6: fact that the so called pro Palestine or pro hamas 171 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 6: you know, protesters and movement is really an anti Western 172 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 6: ideological movement which is often founded on ignorance, you know, 173 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 6: ignorance of history, ignorance of culture, and all of the 174 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 6: internal contradictions that we see every single day. The fact 175 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 6: is that the Western world is is tolerant to diverse 176 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 6: lifestyles and different ways of living in a way that 177 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 6: many other cultures simply are not. 178 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 9: So. 179 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 6: Look, I'm going to be very interested to see how 180 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 6: this plays out, and like I say, I'm not going 181 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 6: to be holding my breath for them to take up 182 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 6: that very generous offer. 183 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: Now, before you go, I want to get your thoughts 184 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: on this shocking story from the UK, A Rotherham gang 185 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 2: rape survivor who suffered terrible abuse from the age of eleven, 186 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: was ordered by a judge to remove demands for her 187 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: abuses to be deported from her planned statement. Twenty two 188 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: years on from when the abuse began. Seven of her 189 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: abuses were sentenced to a combined one hundred and six 190 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 2: years in prison. However, the survivor told gb News, if 191 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: someone's not born here and they're here to exploit children 192 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: after the sentences, they should be deported. The Foreign Office 193 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: should absolutely give Pakistan full punishment if they refuse to 194 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: accept grooming gang rapers. But Dan, how can a victim 195 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: of crime be told that she's not allowed to call 196 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: for abuses to be deported. Surely that's her right. If 197 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: she wants to make a statement like that, of. 198 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 6: Course she should be able to. And everything that was 199 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 6: said in that by that victim I think is common sense. 200 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 6: This is one of the most I think, evil shocking 201 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 6: episodes we've ever seen, what's happened in the UK, the 202 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 6: cover ups that took place, the fact that so many 203 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 6: people knew about what was happening and were evolved in it, 204 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 6: but didn't speak out for a range of reasons. Now 205 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 6: we've got the justice system that seems to be protecting 206 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 6: the perpetrators of this crime rather than giving restitution to 207 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 6: the victim. I mean, the victim appears to be saying 208 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 6: that it doesn't matter how long these people spend in jail, 209 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 6: because nothing is going to take away what's been done 210 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 6: to her and for her to feel whole and to 211 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 6: be restituted. She wants these people to be deported on 212 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 6: what basis could that be denied other than this rampant 213 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 6: political correctness where I assume those in the judicial system 214 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 6: that are worried about it are scared of getting called 215 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 6: racist or something. But clearly, if you've committed that kind 216 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 6: of crime, you should be kicked out of the country immediately. 217 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: Well, they've seemed to have forgotten what was behind that 218 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: Rotherham scandal and so many more like it across the UK. 219 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: And it was precisely this PC attitude of not wanting 220 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 2: to offend certain groups that allowed this grooming and abuse 221 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: to run rampant for many years, impacting more than a 222 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: thousand girls, and to have it now be parent when 223 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: someone's been sentenced, to have the victim not be able 224 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: to give the court the statement she wants to give 225 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: it just shows they've learned really very little from that 226 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: entire saga. Daniel Wilde, thank you so much for your 227 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: time this evening. 228 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. 229 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: Joining me now is a renowned geologist and author. Impriman. 230 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: Let's start with the showdown between chief executives and the 231 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: Prime Minister in Sydney last night. The annual Business Council 232 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: of Australia dinner was on and apparently it was ten 233 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: the corporates who have backed labor and a variety of 234 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: leftist causes, from Net zero to the Voice, are now 235 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: complaining about labour's industrial relation, laws, regulations and taxes. What 236 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: do you think is behind the shift in attitude from 237 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: some of the CEOs of our biggest corporations. 238 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 10: Well, the CEO should have known how labor has performed 239 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 10: in the past. Whatever labor does, the costs go up. 240 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 10: People have got to remember from history the industrial relations 241 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 10: becomes absolutely chaotic. 242 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: When we have a labor government. People should know that 243 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: contracts get canceled. People should know that a major that's 244 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: been the performance of labor when they've been in government. 245 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 10: Why are the surprise now and these CEOs should not 246 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 10: have been backing labor. They should have from day one 247 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 10: been standing up against Labor, against some of the crippling policies. 248 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: That they had. 249 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 10: The CEOs that stood up again and now they're complaining. 250 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: So I think they're chickens home. 251 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: Well yeah, at least now they seem to be focused 252 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: on the bottom line, which is a refreshing change from 253 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: the social engineering that was seemed to be preoccupying them 254 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: in the past. Anthony alb Easy, though, is not backing 255 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: away from his government's agenda, despite this new criticism from 256 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: the corporate sector. Business Council of Australia's Chief executive, Brand 257 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: Black has worn that Labour's IR laws are making companies 258 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: far more unlikely to hire people locally and that major 259 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: employers are now opting to invest overseas. Is that happening 260 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: with the big end of town in Are they shifting 261 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: their investment overseas because of our IR laws? Is the 262 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: effect that dramatic? 263 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 10: Well, it'll be dramatic for mister Albani also because if 264 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 10: he doesn't back off, he'll be in the backbenches. You 265 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 10: cannot have governments changing the rules when you are making 266 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 10: long term investments. Now, that's what's been happening in Australia 267 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 10: since we've had a labor government and the capital is 268 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 10: with a push of a key, it can just go 269 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 10: anywhere else in the world. And that's what's happening. Why 270 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 10: would you risk spending hundreds of millions. 271 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Of dollars when you are likely to have your costs increased. 272 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: All of your due dealers ince calculations have given you 273 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: a certain amount of tolerance, and all of that gets 274 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: thrown out by government decisions. So this is something that 275 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: companies do all the time. They look at their costs. Well, 276 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: I wish governments would do that. 277 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 10: Companies look at saying well, can we get better bang 278 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 10: for our buck somewhere else? 279 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: And there are some places where it was very very 280 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: expensive to operate. 281 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 10: I come to you from breaken Hill. This was a 282 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 10: union mining town. This was a very very expensive place 283 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 10: to operate. Fortunately it was the world's richest and biggest 284 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 10: are body. Those days are now finished. But in former 285 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 10: times this was the Golden Cow. Now those conditions don't 286 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 10: exist any longer. If we're manufacturing a widget, we're competing 287 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 10: with Thailand or United Arab Emirates. If we're actually trying 288 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 10: to build something, we're competing with other people around the world. 289 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 10: We have to keep our costs down and maybe governments 290 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 10: should think of something else. And I'll give mister Albanize 291 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 10: an election winner. This won't cost you any mate. The 292 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 10: election winner is why don't you cut your costs? Then 293 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 10: you don't have to put up taxes. It's pretty simple. 294 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: I don't think you'll be taking that advice, but we 295 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: thank you for it. Don't think i'll ask you about 296 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: UK labors. Well, he should because it's mandatory. But UK 297 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: Labor's Secretary of State for Energy Security Net zero at 298 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 2: Miller brand Well, he thinks that solar farms are a 299 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: fantastic idea for the UK. 300 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 11: It's a sunny day here in Nottinghamshire and I'm a 301 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 11: solar farm, a solar farm powering the equivalent of eleven 302 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 11: thousand homes. Now, solo farms like this are controversial for 303 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 11: some people, but we do need them. 304 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 8: Now. 305 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: That's all well and good in but there's a little problem. 306 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: The UK only receives around fourteen hundred hours of sunshine 307 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: per year on average, so it's about sixty days. How 308 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: is that going to work? How is any sort of 309 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: reliance on solar farms going to provide energy security for 310 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: the good folks of the UK. 311 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 10: Well, I can't say that Ed miller Brand's been out 312 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 10: the sun too long because he's showing the effects of that. 313 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 10: But as you quite rightfully mentioned, England is a place 314 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 10: where the sun doesn't shine very much, and he wants 315 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 10: to power eleven zerusand homes with solar power. 316 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: Or that's fine, what are you going to do at night? 317 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: What are you going to do on a cloudy day? 318 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 10: He calls them solar farms. Farms are productive, they produce 319 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 10: something that's useful. Destroying farmland to put in Chinese made 320 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 10: solar panels isn't a very sensible thing. UK has got 321 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 10: big island gas fields, big cold fields, he's got a 322 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 10: nuclear industry. It's a very small, wet, cloudy island sitting 323 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 10: out in the water. 324 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't get much sun. 325 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 10: It can't be more stupid than to try to make 326 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 10: England a solar country. 327 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: Oh well, that they'll find new ways to be stupid. 328 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: E and Plymber, thank you so much for your time 329 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: this evening. 330 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. 331 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: Still to Karma left he's losing it. 332 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 9: And Army Horowitz with the latest on the astonishing attack 333 00:19:52,280 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 9: targeting his fill of fighters with exploding pages. 334 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back. Now it's time for lefties losing it. We've 335 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: got not one, but two Ladies of the view coming 336 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: up shortly. But first let's start with Taylor Swift. Possibly 337 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: the biggest pop star in the world today, and she's 338 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: recently endors Kamala Harris, but it's not the first time 339 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: she's backed a political candidate. Sadly, to Piers, Swift, who 340 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: has built a stellar Korea writing songs about her many 341 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: bad choices, appears to be what is called a low 342 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: information voter. I just have a look at this ill informed, 343 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: emotional die tribe about Republican Marsha Blackburn. 344 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: Eller Swift comes out against Trump. 345 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 12: I don't care if they're write that I'm sad that 346 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 12: I didn't two years ago, but I can't change that. 347 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: I'm saying right now that this is something that I 348 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: know is right, and you guys, I need to be 349 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: on the right side of history. 350 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 12: And if he doesn't win, then at least I at 351 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 12: least I tried. It really is a big deal. She 352 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 12: votes against against fair pay for women. She votes against 353 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 12: the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, which is 354 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 12: just basically protecting us from domestic abuse and starking, starking, 355 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 12: she votes. She thinks that that if you're a gay couple, 356 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 12: or even if you look like a gay couple, you 357 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 12: should be allowed to be kicked out of a restaurant. 358 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 12: It's really basic human rights and it's right and wrong 359 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 12: at this point. And I can't see another commercial and 360 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 12: see her disguising these policies behind the words Tennessee Christian values. 361 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: That's from Swiss twenty twenty Netflix documentary Miss Americana, and 362 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: the nonsense she's spewing there is about Republican Marsha Blackburden. 363 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 2: Guess what, even in her home state in twenty eighteen, 364 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: Taylor's activism failed to move the dial Marsha black Burn 365 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: one with a big majority in Tennessee. Huge. Now let's 366 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: check in with the mad ramblings of the ladies of 367 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: the View, and apparently it's opposite day on the program, 368 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: because despite two assassination attempts against Donald Trump in as 369 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 2: many months, and a number of other violent attacks from 370 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: the left, it is the Republicans and Trump that are 371 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: to blame. Let's hear this angry tirade from Whoopy Goldberg. 372 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: Remember when she was likable and sane. 373 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 13: And also, let's start this thing, you know, let's start this. 374 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 8: Both sides stuff. 375 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 14: It's a bunch of because it's not correct. 376 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 8: It is not both sides. 377 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: It is one clear side. 378 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 13: And you can point to many, many reports, you can 379 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 13: point to all kinds. 380 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 14: Of stuff that's been reporting. 381 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 8: You guys have to you have to pull it back. 382 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 4: This is not us to them. 383 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 14: This is you got to stop doing what you're doing. 384 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 8: Gad and what you're doing, mister t because you are. 385 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: You are not helping the situation, projection and lies. That's 386 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: all the Left have. They accuse their opponents of precisely 387 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: what they're guilty of. And we have another lady from 388 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 2: the view chief Ninkompoop and a Navarro who went on 389 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: CNN to share more conspiracy theories. She's moved on from 390 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: the Russian collusion hoax business. Now she's suddenly worried about 391 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: the folks in Springfield, Ohio. 392 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 13: The problem is that Donald Trump, who I think you know, 393 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 13: if you were doing hurricane categories, he's hurricane category five, 394 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 13: whereas the other side might be a two. And Donald 395 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 13: Trump and JD. Vans are not questioning the rhetoric right 396 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 13: now because of their rhetoric because of what he said 397 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 13: in that debate. 398 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 8: There's been thirty three. 399 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 13: Bombing threats in Springfield, Ohio that would not have happened 400 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 13: but for this false conspiracy theory being spread by the 401 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 13: vice presidential and presidential Republican candidate, and those Haitians and Springfield, 402 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 13: Ohio and those students and the people that are victims 403 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 13: of these threats and everything that's going on there, don't 404 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 13: have twenty four to sevens a secret service, right, They're 405 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 13: on their own. 406 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 10: You know, she. 407 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: Forgot to mention a couple of key facts, and I 408 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: know the few ladies and CNN are allergic to facts. 409 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: But every single bomb threat was a hoax, and their 410 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 2: higher governor has confirmed that the hoaxes originated from overseas. 411 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: I wonder who could be behind these bomb threat hoaxes. 412 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: Who's the most of a game? Donald Trump's running mate JD. 413 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: Vans has been schooling the leftist activists in the US media. 414 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: Is one example. President Biden passed a series of executive actions, 415 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: and illegal border crossings are now at their lowest levels 416 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: in about five years, so much so that Greg Abbott 417 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: is no longer bussing people. 418 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 8: To other cities. 419 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: Let me ask you these fundamental questions. 420 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 11: Yes, will families be separated under your mass deportations? 421 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 15: Again, I do want to answer this question about families 422 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 15: and about deportations. 423 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: But you made this point that border crossings are lower. 424 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 15: Border crossings at the southern border are lower because the 425 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 15: Harris administration is sending more immigrants through the ports of entry. 426 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 15: So instead of coming through the southern border, they're now 427 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 15: being flown at taxpayer expense to the ports of entry 428 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 15: all over our country. The number of illegal crossings they 429 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 15: are not any lower. They're just shuffling how the people 430 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 15: are coming into the country in the first place. 431 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 2: And this is very deportation work efficiently. 432 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 8: But Greg Abbat's not. 433 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 15: Setting vital others and I don't want to make borders 434 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 15: are who makes it more efficient for illegal immigrants to 435 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 15: come into this country. 436 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: That's why we have the problem that we have. 437 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: And what he said, there is one hundred percent accurate 438 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: new data from the US Customs and Border Protection shows 439 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: nearly five hundred and thirty thousand migrants have flown into 440 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: the US under the Biden administration's mass prole program for 441 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: countries such as Haiti and Cuba, Venezuela and the figure 442 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: is just from June to August this year. Fox News's 443 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: Bill mil Lugen reports that another eight hundred and thirteen 444 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: thousand migrants have scheduled appointments via the custom Border Protection 445 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: one app at ports of entry to be released into 446 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: the US. And these are all called lawful pathways. Now, 447 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: these were created by the Biden administration, so these numbers 448 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: don't count as illegal crossings. You can see precisely what 449 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: they are doing. Here joining me now is filmmaker and 450 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: journalist Army Horoids Army. That's more than a million migrants 451 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: the Biden admin has allowed into the US via these programs, 452 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: and they're here to stay. They're not going to be 453 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: leaving America because authorities admit they just don't have the 454 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: resources to police those who overstay their visas. 455 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 8: Look, Jendi Vance is very good at this. Here is 456 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 8: small art. 457 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 14: He has a command of the issues and knows how 458 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 14: to use them as a rhetorical weapon. But frankly, to me, 459 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 14: it really that underscores the failure of Trump at the 460 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 14: debate to effectively use immigration as the necessary rhetorical weapon 461 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 14: he needed. 462 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 8: He whiffed at it. 463 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 14: He kept highly he used as a stand in for 464 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 14: this important immigration issue. This false idea of people in 465 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 14: Ohio eating pets that was a standing for immigration. When 466 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 14: we have all of these data points, these important real 467 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 14: data points like the CDB data point, to use to 468 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 14: really highlight the problem at the border, that's the problem. 469 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 8: What do we do we allowed look, other than. 470 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 14: Admittedly creating hilarious memes, what it did was it allowed 471 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 14: the Democrats to reduce the potency of. 472 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 8: The immigration argument. 473 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 14: It basically boiled down the immigration argument to deflect it 474 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 14: into and and change the narrative into. 475 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 8: A fact check. That is a failure. 476 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 14: We cannot focus on those things that are distracting and 477 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 14: frankly untrue. Look, the president President Trump should be running 478 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 14: away with this election. The number one and number two 479 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 14: issues in the country, the economy and immigration. 480 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 8: He has massive leads on. 481 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 14: But instead of running away with the election and making 482 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 14: a having a large lead, the lead is actually increasing 483 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 14: for Kamala Harris and it's it's the Republican Party needs 484 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 14: to take a hard look at how the president President 485 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 14: Trump is running this race because he has a chance 486 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 14: of losing it when really this should be a win 487 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 14: for him. 488 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: We'll get back to the polls and this issue. I 489 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: disagree with you. Yes, he's not a jd Vance, is 490 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: not a vivek Ramswami or Ron de Santas. He's not 491 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: a politician. 492 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 8: Who can. 493 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: Do these debates in the manner that they would have 494 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: completed them. But it was three against one. And though 495 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: this whole cat and dog business has absolutely enraged the left, 496 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: it has brought attention to the illegal immigration issue and 497 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: the legal migration issue, and there's focus on towns like Springfield, Ohio, 498 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: when they're really they were ignored up until then. So 499 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure that the outcome isn't what he 500 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: would want, but I do agree with you that, yeah, 501 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: if you had a jd Vance in his ear, he 502 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: would have been able to just fact check a lot 503 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: of the nonsense that we heard during that debate in 504 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: a far more effective manner. Now, I want to ask 505 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: you about what has Buller has suffered In recent hours. 506 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: Nine people have died and three thousand have been injured 507 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: after a coordinated cyber attack on the militant group Hez 508 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: Bulla saw thousands of pages explode. Arab media reporting that 509 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: around five hundred hes Bulla fighters were blinded in the attack, 510 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: which took place mostly in Beirute in southern Lebanon, and 511 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: also Damascus in Syria. Members of the terrorist organization were 512 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: previously told by their leaders to stop using mobile phones 513 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: smartphones to avoid Israeli surveillance. They were handed pages instead. 514 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: ARMI tell me about how this attack occurred and what 515 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: we know about it. 516 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 14: Yeah, well, no, we knows for certain yets. But obviously 517 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 14: there are a number of theories, and I think those 518 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 14: theories are probably true. Listen, one thing that Mossad is 519 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 14: known for is ingenuity and creativity, right, That's really what 520 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 14: it has. And they have a history of really interesting 521 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 14: ways of getting at their enemies. For example, where they 522 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 14: killed Mugnia, the Husbala leader, Iranian leader, they actually put 523 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 14: explosives in his head rest in his car. 524 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 8: Sounds easy, extremely complicated. 525 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 14: When they killed the engineer amas Ayash, who's called the 526 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 14: engineer who was a leader of Crazy's IEDs that plagued Israel, 527 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 14: they were able to get explosives into his cell phone 528 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 14: to use that. What seems to have happened here is 529 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 14: that they were they did was what we think they did, 530 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 14: was they they put explosives into the pagers. Now I 531 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 14: spent time in southern Lebanon, in the Becav Valley in Beirut, 532 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 14: and I spent time with Czbolah And when I had 533 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 14: to contact them, I couldn't call them on cell phones. 534 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 8: They didn't have cell phones. They knew they were easily hacked. 535 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 14: They were all using pagers and because they thought that 536 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 14: this analog system was harder to hack. In fact it 537 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 14: is so what we think is Israel did was it 538 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 14: didn't go digital. But when analog found the manufacturer, which 539 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 14: was in Taiwan, of these pagers, somehow infiltrate the supply chain, 540 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 14: whether in Taiwan the manufacturer facility or on a route 541 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 14: to to Lebanon, covertly were able to open up all 542 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 14: of these thousands of pagers, put in plastic explosives, resealed 543 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 14: them so they couldn't be seen and noticed as being 544 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 14: tampered with, and then sat there for we don't know 545 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 14: how long, UH until they thought it was the right 546 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 14: time UH to use them and the remotely access to 547 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 14: pagers to overheat, thereby triggering the explosives. 548 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 8: That's what the going theory is. It is an incredible coup. 549 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 14: They were able to pull off UH kind of blows 550 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 14: it was that that that pun with intent uh for 551 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 14: these uh, these these husband of fighters who are now 552 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 14: going to see their seventy two virgins. But Franklin had 553 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 14: their equipment blown off, So that kind of that kind 554 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 14: of sucks for them. 555 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 556 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 14: But you know, by the way, you know, I want 557 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 14: to highlight one more thing about this issue we take 558 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 14: this seriously for a moment, is that it also points 559 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 14: out there's a couple of days ago, right before this, 560 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 14: the Biden administration was pressuring Israel to stop escalating what's 561 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 14: happening in Lebanon. 562 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 8: Really, Israel has to stop escalating. 563 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 14: Do I have to remind the president that Husabelah has 564 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 14: been bombing the north for almost a year on a 565 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 14: daily basis. The bombing is so bad that Israel's had 566 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 14: to evacuate the entire the entire north of Israel has 567 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 14: been evacuated because they can't live under those conditions. Yet 568 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 14: Biden is lecturing Israel that it can't escalate those things. 569 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 14: A couple of days before this happened, you know, shades 570 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 14: and shades of when Biden told Israel after Iran sent 571 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 14: three hundred missiles and rockets and drones in an unprecedented 572 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 14: attack against the state of Israel. What ad detail Israel? 573 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 14: He said, do not retaliate, otherwise you will lose my support. 574 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 14: This is the situation that Israel finds itself in visa 575 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 14: vis this administration, and so. 576 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: Much pressure on the Netanyahu government to come to a 577 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: ceasefire agreement, even though her Mass continuously refused to really 578 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: meet any sort of reasonable conditions. The pressure seems to 579 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: be entirely on Neshanyahu as opposed to Hermas, who started 580 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: this entire catastrophe. Going back to US politics, I want 581 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on this new ad campaign from 582 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 2: a conservative group that's targeting illegal immigrants in the US, 583 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: warning them not to vote in the upcoming election. The 584 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: Spanish language ads worn non citizens that voting in a 585 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: federal election is a crime punishable by deportation, but army. 586 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: The campaign also tells Hispanic voters that it's their patriotic 587 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: duty to vote those of them who are citizens. What 588 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 2: are the polls telling us about the Hispanic vote, Because 589 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: it's been a very fascinating exercise to observe how it's 590 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 2: gone towards the Trump camp. But I think since Harris 591 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: was installed as a dada that laid has diminished. 592 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 14: Well, I think one of the great geopolitical mistakes the 593 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 14: Democratic Party has made is that it looks there's no 594 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 14: question that it has encouraged I legal immigration into this 595 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 14: country and encourage Hispanics to come into this country because 596 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 14: in their view, they think ultimately when they become citizens, 597 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 14: that they will all vote the Democratic Party. And it's 598 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 14: true that first generation Hispanics outside of Cubans, have been 599 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 14: a bulwark for the Democratic Party. But what all the 600 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 14: polls and all the studies have shown is that Hispanics 601 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 14: are conservative, They're Catholic, they're hardworking, and they have migrated 602 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 14: toward the Republican Party over time. And I think it's 603 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 14: going to be end up being a catastrophe for the 604 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 14: Democratic Party. But I want to point something else out 605 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 14: about the illegal voting. Look, I think that there's no 606 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 14: question that there is illegal voting. There is voter fraud 607 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 14: that happens. It happened to me personally. I want to 608 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 14: point that out now. When I did my voter ID video. 609 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 14: The reason why I did that videos because when I 610 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 14: went to vote after maybe six months after my father 611 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 14: passed away and I voted in Los Angeles. 612 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 8: The way it works there is. 613 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 14: You go, you give your name, there's a book, and 614 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 14: in that book it lists all the names alphabetical order, 615 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 14: so all the horrorses were in order. And I saw 616 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 14: my father's name was in there, which made sense, he 617 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 14: only died a few months before. But his name was checked, 618 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 14: and I asked them why is his name checked? They said, well, 619 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 14: somebody came in, gave his name, his address, and they 620 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 14: voted for him. That was clear voter fund And by 621 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 14: the way, I showed in the California Board of Elections 622 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 14: never got back to me, never cared. But the important 623 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 14: point here is that, look, is there a mass that 624 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 14: you know there? Again, what the Democrats are doing is saying, well, 625 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 14: there is no massive amount of illegals voting. That's a falsehood. 626 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 8: That's not real. 627 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 14: Well, look, it's not real that all the illegal immigrants 628 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 14: are voting. But let me tell you something which people 629 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 14: seem to miss, certainly Democrats do, is that in New 630 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 14: York City where I am, the New York City Council 631 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 14: and the mayor passed a law for non citizens to vote, 632 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 14: to actually allow them to vote only by the grace 633 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 14: of the judicial system and the court they threw that out, 634 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 14: but the city is still appealing it, and Mayor Adams 635 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 14: is still supporting this law to allow non. 636 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 8: Citizens to vote. 637 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 14: So when you tell me this is not a real argument, 638 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 14: this is something that Democrats are in fact trying to pass. 639 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 2: Absolutely, i'man Horowitz. Thank you so much for your time, 640 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: This evening is your pleasure. And still to come. A 641 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: security expert joins me to talk about the direct link 642 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 2: between the Democrats dangerous retric and assassination attempts against Donald Trump. 643 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back. The left continue to play down the attempts 644 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: on Donald Trump's life, and they're continuing their dangerous, inflammatory 645 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: retrig trying to paint the former president as evil, a 646 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: modern day Hitler, threat to democracy. And worse, here is 647 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 2: White House Press Secretary Queen Jean Pierre. Earlier today, President 648 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: Biden has been clear eyed about the threat that the 649 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 2: former president represents to our democracy. 650 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 15: He's been clear eyed about that. 651 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: Joining me now is Critical Dynamics Director of Law Enforcement Training, 652 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: Keith Hanson. Kay, thank you for your time. Is the 653 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: retrick we are hearing from the Democrats directly responsible for 654 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 2: the attempts on Donald Trump's life. 655 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, I mean it's it's completely completely disconnected. 656 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we're we're all intelligent enough to know, 657 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 4: especially the mentally defective people. The leftists of the United 658 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 4: States are are certainly smart enough to understand that, you know, 659 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 4: we're dealing with an intellectually superior class here. So they 660 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 4: speak in metaphors that the average person just can't really understand. 661 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 4: So when they talk about crosshairs, they're you know, they're 662 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 4: not really talking about right full cross hairs. And when 663 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 4: they call him Hitler, they're not really implying that, you know, 664 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 4: he's responsible for the death of six million people. We 665 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 4: we just can't comprehend as And you remember it was 666 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 4: Nancy Pelosi who said about Barack Obama, he's so intelligent 667 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 4: that the vast majority of us really cannot begin to 668 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 4: grasp or appreciate the depths of his intelligence. So I 669 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 4: think it's just us, you know, sub intellectual peons that 670 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 4: are just you know, misinterpreting the words of these incredibly 671 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 4: intelligent leaders and and and acting uh unaccordingly. So I I, 672 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 4: you know, there's there's no connection there at all. Sorry 673 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 4: the fact that. 674 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 2: I appreciate the sarcasm. 675 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 4: But you know, it's one of those things like we 676 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 4: we we have to at least take a sarcastic approach 677 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 4: to this here, because I mean, the truth of the 678 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 4: matter is is that this is vile, This is reprehensible, 679 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 4: it is evil, and and yes, to answer your question 680 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 4: in a very serious way, uh I, I do believe 681 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 4: that the Democrats and the progressive left in the United 682 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 4: States is directly responsible for the optic and violence. And 683 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 4: this has been going on, This inflammatory, incendiary, violent rhetoric 684 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 4: has been going on since Donald Trump first descended that 685 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 4: elevator or escalator in the Trump Tower in twenty fifteen. 686 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 4: He has been targeted, he has been slandered, he has 687 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 4: been maligned, he has been threatened, and the again, the 688 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 4: mentally defective left in this country takes that as a 689 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 4: direct marching order. We've seen it once in Butler Township. 690 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 4: We've seen it twice in Florida. And I have to 691 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 4: be honest with you, Unless we really start getting serious 692 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 4: about protecting this man and other representatives elected representatives in 693 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 4: this country or candidates, we're going to see a lot 694 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 4: more of this. 695 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 8: Well. 696 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: I fear what would happen to the country if if 697 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 2: one of these attempts was successful. The suspect in this 698 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 2: second assassination attempt has social media posts that are word 699 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: for word what we're hearing from the Democrat leadership, just 700 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: supporting what you've just said about this retrick and how 701 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: it can inflame people who are not mentally sound. And 702 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: the talk has not stopped, it's in fact, they're doubling 703 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: down on it. Does that make you fear that another 704 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 2: attempt on President Trump's life is just around the corner? 705 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 4: Unfortunately? 706 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 8: Yes. 707 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 4: I think the answer to that is yes. And more 708 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 4: to the point, I think that there's a lot of 709 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 4: people who look at this as a game. I'm seeing, 710 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of memes and a lot of cartoons, 711 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 4: and a lot of not coming from President Trump, but 712 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 4: you know, coming from Trump's supporters. Hey O in two 713 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 4: as if to say, oh, you know, you tried twice 714 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 4: and failed. Trace it's going to become, I believe, a situation, 715 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 4: unless it's taken seriously at the highest levels of government, 716 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 4: it's going to become a situation where somebody is going 717 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 4: to try to be the person who actually is successful, 718 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 4: and they may spend the rest of their life in prison, 719 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 4: or they may die, but you know, they will have 720 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 4: achieved what nobody else has done, and perhaps they're looking 721 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 4: at it as some type of active humanitarianism where they're 722 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 4: going to save the world, or again it's just a 723 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 4: mentally defective person. But it sets up a very dangerous 724 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 4: stage where somebody will try to do this. And again 725 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 4: I've said this many times that Secret Service and all 726 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 4: of the force multiplying agencies that are involved in protecting 727 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 4: not only President Trump but Vice President Vance or President 728 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 4: a little wishful thinking there, but the nominee Vance as 729 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 4: well as as the current president and vice president. Unless 730 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 4: they start taking this seriously, we're facing a very very 731 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 4: serious crisis here and we cannot again, we cannot turn 732 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 4: away from the fact that the rhetoric from the Democrat 733 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 4: Party and the progressive left in this country is absolutely 734 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 4: fueling us. 735 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 2: If fewer advising the former president, would you be insisting 736 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 2: he wear a bulletproof vests at all times, every time 737 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 2: he's out of mare Lago essentially, And how would you 738 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 2: handle the rallies, the meats and greats he does, and 739 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 2: of course he does like a game of golf. Can 740 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 2: he be adequately protected when you do have well, you've 741 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: had eight years of this crazy retrick and God knows 742 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 2: how many people are out there who've got ideas about 743 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 2: being the one to take him out. 744 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I think you know, each individual venue, 745 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 4: each individual rally, each individual appearance, each individual visit to 746 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 4: the golf course in a non official capacity presents a 747 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 4: very unique security threat. Clearly the threat is elevated. We've 748 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 4: had not one attempt, but now two attempts. He is 749 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 4: arguably the most targeted person in this country, perhaps even 750 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 4: the world. And so, yeah, the security protocols have to 751 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 4: be reviewed individually. And the bottom line is that, yeah, 752 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 4: I mean, he should be wearing a vest, he should 753 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 4: be limiting the exposure that he has until he can 754 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 4: have some reasonable assurance that the people who are tasked 755 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 4: with his safety and security actually have their game together. 756 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 4: And to be honest with you, looking at a secret 757 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 4: service that is filled with DEI hires courtesy of people 758 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 4: like Kimberly Cheedle and the rest of the Obama administration 759 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 4: and the Biden administration, I would have serious doubts about 760 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 4: the ability of many of these people to adequately protect 761 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 4: any dignitary. 762 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we saw the scenes in Butler and some 763 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: of those agents seem to be completely lost and unfit 764 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: for the job, to say the least. The mediatric around Trump, 765 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 2: I think is also adding fuel to the fi just 766 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 2: the Democrats, it's the media who have normalized these sort 767 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 2: of talker and promoted it, and our publications in Australia, 768 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 2: I've got to tell you are not much better. You 769 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 2: could argue they're worse. I want to just bring to 770 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 2: your attention an academic publication, the Conversation they have a 771 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 2: piece of the moment claiming these attempts on Trump's life 772 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,280 Speaker 2: are nothing out of the ordinary, and US presidential history 773 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: calling them fairly common place, despite also noting that the 774 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 2: last attempt was in nineteen eighty one against Republican President 775 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan. That was six presidents a co you're security experts, 776 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: how extraordinary are the threats against Donald Trump? Is this 777 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: what every presidential candidate can expect? Are we seeing something 778 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 2: that's quite out of the ordinary. 779 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 4: I think we're experiencing something that is significantly out of 780 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 4: the ordinary, because we're dealing with an individual who is 781 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 4: out of the ordinary. This is an This is a 782 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 4: person who is extremely polarizing. People for whatever reason, either 783 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 4: love him or they hate him. And the people who 784 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 4: hate him. The media in this country has made They've 785 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 4: literally built their ranks off of covering Trump NonStop. I mean, 786 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 4: think about Twitter. Back when Twitter was one hundred and 787 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 4: forty characters, Trump could reach out with Twitter and literally 788 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 4: stop the presses. Oh my god, there's a lot of 789 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 4: pearl clutching. Oh my god, Trump tweeted something or Trump 790 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 4: said something. And I think Trump is really one of 791 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 4: the first people, real powerful people in this country who 792 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 4: has defied, or I should say defied the standard paradigm, 793 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 4: which is you make your statements through the media. But 794 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 4: Trump knew that he couldn't trust the media, that the 795 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 4: media was corrupt. The media was pushing an agenda. They 796 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 4: had this hegemonic view of the United States, and it 797 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 4: did not involve conservative principles, It did not involve capitalism. 798 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 4: It involved the furthering of these progressive, democratic socialist policies. 799 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 4: And anything that stands in stark contrast to that worldview 800 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 4: will be treated as a pejorative. It will be put down, 801 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 4: it will be suppressed, it will be belittled, it will 802 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 4: be made fun of. And you know, the one thing 803 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 4: that I've said many times, Rita, is that when a 804 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 4: Democrat makes an accusation towards an opponent. You can absolutely 805 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 4: take it to the bank that it is a twisted, 806 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 4: projected confession that the person who utters the accusation is 807 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 4: they themselves representing a political body and an ideology that 808 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 4: is guilty of far worse things than anything they're accusing 809 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 4: their political opponents up. This is standard practice for people 810 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 4: who have an iota of critical thinking. We look at 811 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 4: this and we take everything in through that lens. But unfortunately, 812 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 4: the public education system in this country has bred a generation, 813 00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 4: several generations of politically, socially and economically illiterate people, and 814 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 4: so these people take it at face value. Hell, in 815 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 4: this country, you know how many people are getting their 816 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 4: news from fifteen to twenty second segments and blurbs on TikTok, 817 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 4: which is arguably populated by the stupidest human beings on 818 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 4: the planet. And these people not only fill our society. 819 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 4: But here's the scary thing. They vote, and they breed 820 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 4: and they produce more stupid people who go out and 821 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 4: vote for the first person who comes along and promises 822 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 4: them whatever little treat that happens to tickle their fancy. 823 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,720 Speaker 4: Welcome to the world of American politics. It's not getting 824 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 4: any better, it's only getting worse. And now that the 825 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 4: violence is ramping up, literally because the calls for violence 826 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 4: are ramping up. I think this is kind of the 827 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 4: you know, to coin a phrase from COVID, the new normal. 828 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,919 Speaker 4: It's scary, but it's true. 829 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: I think everything you've said points to the fact that 830 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 2: this is going to be the most consequential election we 831 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: have seen in a very long time. Keith Hanson, thank 832 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 2: you so much for your time. 833 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 4: This evening my pleasure. Thank you, Ridder, And that's it 834 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 4: for me. 835 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 2: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow night with Douglas Murray. 836 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. Newsnight is up next.