WEBVTT - Sharri | 16 April 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:03.159 Live on Sky News. 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:05.519 This is Sharry. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:07.840 Good Evening. 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:12.160 Welcome tonight, A bombshell hush money scandal engulfs the alban 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:16.960 eazy government. We reveal how a parliamentary staffer was twice 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.800 us to sign an NDA overclaims she was bullied when 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.160 she disclosed her rape as a young woman in politics. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.280 Our exclusive story In a moment and breaking news tonight, 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.120 Russia confirms it wants military access to Indonesia, saying this 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.400 is a defensive move against ucas albanize he needs to 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.880 wake up to these very real threats. Plus doctors call 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.800 out the Prime Minister's many scare campaign saying actually, you 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:45.800 will still. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.040 Need to pay for GP visits. 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.520 And John Howard hits the hustings well at eighty five, 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.519 He's still the best politician in the business. I'll talk 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:57.760 about this with Michael Kroger and rich O Shorty, but 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.840 first tonight, an explosive story of how the Albanese government 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:06.160 treated a sexual assault victim when she bravely came forward 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:11.480 to disclose her rape. A Parliamentary House library researcher has 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:15.360 accused the Albanese government of trying to silence her with 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:20.040 hush money and confidentiality agreements. This when she came forward 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:25.039 with allegations of sexual assault and workplace bullying. Anna Huff 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.240 is forty six. She's a mother of three. She received 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.560 legal letters from the Australian Government solicitor offering her a 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.959 low ball sum of money and asking her to sign 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:42.520 NDAs and Finance Minister Katie Gallagher, who weaponized the treatment 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.640 of women against the Morrison government, allegedly declined to meet 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.560 with the public servant and long term Community and Public 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:55.000 Sector union member and delegate now. Anna's motivation for coming 0:01:55.040 --> 0:02:03.360 forward now is transparency, accountability, justice, genuine reform and fair compensation. 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.320 She told me that given the ALP's response to an 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:12.880 alleged parliament House rape cover up last election, the hypocrisy 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.680 on display in their treatment of me, particularly in trying 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:22.040 to silence me, is quite something. Anna says she was 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:26.360 raped by a political staffer some twenty years ago, and 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:30.560 that when she disclosed her experience in recent years she 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.720 was punished, not supported. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.880 She was just twenty one when. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.519 She says she was raped and sexually assaulted while working 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:43.640 as a volunteer for the Australian Democrats political party. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.120 Here she is as a volunteer at the time with 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:47.680 a then. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:52.320 Australian Democrats leader Natasha Stott de Spoyer, who by the way, 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:57.680 knew nothing of these serious allegations. Anna stayed silent for 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:03.639 two decades, but then the national reckoning sparked by Brittany Higgins. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.200 When the Me Too movement swept Parliament House, it gave 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.640 her the strength to speak up. 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:12.239 She disclosed her. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.600 Trauma in twenty twenty one to senior staff in the 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.640 Department of Parliamentary Services, and she claims that as a result, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:24.639 she was sidelined, denied promotions, pressured to step down from 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.960 her role, and even treated like a problem, and she 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:34.000 was asked when she'd be back to normal now. Anna 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:38.880 eventually resigned in April twenty twenty three, and five months 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:43.080 later she launched legal action against the Commonwealth, but her 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:47.600 treatment during this process and before was severely disappointing. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.560 Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi. 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:55.520 Had claimed to care about victims of sexual assault. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.400 Which is why people are angry and frustrated, which is 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.920 why we need to do better, all of us. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.160 All of us need to. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:10.440 Do better, all political parties, all businesses, all workplaces, our 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:16.840 entire society because sexual assault, and these issues are about 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.320 the power of balance in society. 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:24.680 That's what it's about, and that's why women are demanding 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.320 change and they're entitled to get it. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.479 And when the Albanese government was elected, Attorney General Mark 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:37.520 Dreyfus promised that sexual assault victims wouldn't have to sign 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:42.400 non disclosure agreements. He said, and I quote, let me 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.200 be clear, while I am the Attorney General, the only 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:50.760 circumstances under which the existence of a sexual assault or 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.719 sexual harassment claim will be kept confidential is if the 0:04:54.800 --> 0:05:02.080 claimant seeks to keep the settlement confidential. By these very 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:08.120 categoric assurances from the Attorney General, Anna received two settlement 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:13.520 offices to settlement offers from the Australian Government solicitor. Both 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:18.279 were tied to strict confidentiality clauses. She was sent a 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.760 legal letter on the twenty fifth of June twenty twenty 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:25.080 four from the Australian Government solicitor offering her a modest 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:30.240 sum of money in return for confidentiality obligations. And this 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.279 would have meant that Anna would have been limited in 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.719 how she could speak about her experience. She wouldn't have 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.320 been able to tell her full story and she was 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.599 then given another offer of a sum of money on 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.880 the twenty sixth of July twenty twenty four, just last year, 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:51.400 again with a confidentiality clause. Her lawyer said that this 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.800 violates the Attorney General's own directives along with the standards 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.440 set out in the landmark set the Standard Report. It 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:04.320 was a report that Anna herself helped inform. Then just 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.719 last month, on the sixth of March, Anna's lawyers sent 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.960 a letter to the Attorney General's Department where they said 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:17.000 this the Australian Government Solicitor has failed to comply with 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:21.080 the Attorney General's direction, in particular not to seek any 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.359 level of confidentiality in sexual harassment and sexual assault matters 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.920 unless requested. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.440 By the claimant. Now. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:34.440 I asked Mark Dreyfus's office why the Australian Government Solicitor 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.880 had failed to comply with his direction on confidentiality provisions. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.760 I also asked whether he was disappointed that a sexual 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:47.400 assault victim had been twice asked to sign a confidentiality agreement. 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.680 He didn't respond, but a spokesman for the Attorney General's 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.440 Department said it would not be appropriate to comment on 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.880 any ongoing legal matter. And there is no incident since 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.599 June twenty twenty two whether the Attorney General or Delegate 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:07.000 has approved settlement terms in a workplace sexual harassment or 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.400 sexual assault matter that are inconsistent with the guidelines and 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:14.280 the use of confidentiality clauses in the resolution of workplace 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.840 sexual harassment complaints or the Attorney General statement in the 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:23.760 Canbra Times dated ninth of November twenty twenty four. Now, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.280 Brittany Higgins was paid more than two million dollars and 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.080 her case was raised by Labor politicians in Parliament on 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:36.720 a daily basis. But Anna Huff was offered a small 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.800 fraction of that amount and she was asked twice to 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:46.440 sign secrecy agreements by the Australian government. Solicitor Finance Minister 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.520 Katie Gallagher was one of those who strongly backed Britney 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.520 Higgins when she spoke up about her rape allegations. 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.400 The fact remains that those who owed Miss Higgins a 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.880 direct duty of care had known of this for almost 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.440 two years and did nothing to make changes or improved 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:08.800 culture and safety in the workplace when this incident had occurred. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.520 But Senator Gallagher, who's by the way, also the Minister 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.880 for women has allegedly declined to meet with Anna Huff. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.640 There were requests made to Senator Gallagher via the Attorney 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:26.040 General's Department and another request was also via an email 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:30.760 from Green Senator Larissa Waters to the Parliamentary Leadership Task 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.800 forss Now. Senator Gallagher's spokesman told me that we have 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:40.080 not received such a request. The Department of Parliamentary Services 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.840 haven't responded to my request for comment now. 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.040 In her work as a. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:50.720 Parliamentary Library researcher, Anna contributed to Sex Discrimination Commissioner Kate 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.720 Jenkins set the standard report and here she is pictured 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.559 with Kate Jenkins and Anna is proud of her work 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:02.880 on women's issues and tonight, Anna says she's speaking publicly 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:08.520 because silence hasn't worked, and also because other victims she 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:13.200 claims are being treated the same way. And by the way, 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.640 Anna has had political party memberships before. They're with the Democrats, 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:22.200 the ALP and the Greens in her younger years, she's 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.600 never been a member of the Liberal Party and she 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:30.520 hasn't had any political affiliations since twenty twelve. But she's 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:34.360 worried about how women are now still being treated in 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.600 politics in parliament House, and Anna told me the parliamentary 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.319 workplace reforms a little. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.960 More than window dressing. She said. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.360 When the Set the Standard Report was released in twenty 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:51.959 twenty one, the Sex Discrimination Commissioner Kate Jenkins said victims 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.320 should not have to go to the media in order 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:59.720 to achieve accountability. She says her experience proves that apparently 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.040 they still do. And Anna said she's also aware that 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:08.960 other victims are being pressured to accept inadequate settlements and 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:14.600 also sign confidentiality agreements. She said, I want transparency, I 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.840 want accountability. I want fair compensation, not just for me, 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.160 but for everyone who's been abused in a parliamentary workplace. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:24.040 When I was raped, the. 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.920 Message was that I didn't matter. When I was bullied 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:32.240 and discriminated against after disclosing my trauma, the message was 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.520 that I didn't matter. When I sought justice and was 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.240 told my pain was worth a small fraction of someone else's, 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.880 the message was that I didn't matter. My message to 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.679 the government is this, I do matter. Other victims matter, 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.400 Equality before the law matters, and she says, I refuse 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.679 to be treated as a second class victim for one 0:10:55.760 --> 0:11:02.960 day longer. These are brave words from a woman who 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:08.680 deserves much better from the Albanese government, especially when you 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:13.640 consider just how labor weaponized the treatment of women before 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:21.800 the last election. Okay, let's go to some breaking news tonight. 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:26.760 Russia's ambassador to Indonesia has confirmed that Russia is looking 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:31.200 to strengthen military ties with Indonesia. The Australian reports that 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:35.240 Russia's envoy to Jakarta has sought to frame Moscow's request 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.079 for military access to an Indonesian Air Force base as 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:43.000 a defensive move in light of the Orchest Security Pact 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:49.160 and what it calls alarming plans to deploy US intermediate 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:53.520 range missiles in Australia that it says would put Indonesia 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:59.600 within rage. Now, Russian Ambassador to Indonesia, Sergei Tolchanov, has 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.400 issued statement this evening that says military cooperation is an 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.440 integral part of the intergovernmental relations between the Russian Federation 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.280 and the Republic of Indonesia. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.160 He says it is solely of. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.480 Bilateral character and based on a relevant legal framework and 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:21.720 the national legislation of each respective country. Now, there are 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.840 major concerns in the West, in Australia and the United 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:29.760 States about the bricks grouping, which includes Russia and Indonesia. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:34.400 But this confirmation from Russia comes after our Prime minister 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:39.240 today refused to confirm whether or not Indonesia did receive 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:44.240 a request to station Russian airplanes and an airbase. 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:49.240 Just one four hundred kilometers from our mainland. Here was Albanezi, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:51.199 this is. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.520 Not being well, my question was do you know about 0:12:55.559 --> 0:13:01.880 the request? Well, it's not clear what, it's not clear 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.720 what the jan you're assuming the change report is correct, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.200 and there is no basis for you assuming that. Secondly, 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.760 second second, a request. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:13.199 Was never made. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.319 We know that for sure that a request was not made. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:16.520 Is that what you're saying. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.839 I'm saying, I'll act diplomatically with our friends in Indonesia, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:20.720 That's what I'm saying. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.160 Well, after this statement from Russia's ambassador, you think Albanese 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:26.600 is going to have to come up with a new 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:31.080 line when he's pressed on this by the media tomorrow. So, 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.200 as I've said, Russia has now confirmed it is looking 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.839 to strengthen military ties with Indonesia. Now Here was former 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:42.240 Home Affair Secretary Mike Bozullo speaking about the concerns around 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.679 this alliance earlier today. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.000 Any attack on Australia is likely to come from Indonesia 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:53.000 unlikely or through Indonesia possible. And so that's why foreign 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:57.120 basing in Indonesia is so is something that's of high 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:01.360 interest our intelligence analysts to the government right to discuss. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.240 Let's bring in our former Victorian Liberal Party leader Michael 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:08.200 Kroger and labor legend Graham Richardson. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.559 Welcome to you both. Michael. 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.880 Look as we just heard that Mike Bozulo says that 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:17.800 foreign bases in Indonesia is something that's of concern to our 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.280 intelligence analysts. 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:20.760 Yet we saw today the. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.680 Albanese's refusal to answer just basic questions on this. I mean, 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:29.200 he seems not interested in foreign policy. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.760 He never has been, you know. But should we be 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:39.400 concerned absolutely what Russian planes, Russian Russian fighter jets now 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.320 coming to Indonesia. You've got an aggressive Chinese government in 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.840 the South China Sea. This would be this would have 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:53.960 dramatic consequences for the security of the Pacific. If the 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.040 Russians had ventured that far to have to have fighter 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:02.480 jets in Indonesia, it would change the whole security arrangements 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:06.200 in Australia and to the north. And is extremely alarming. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.600 But he doesn't know anything about foreign policy. He's never 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:15.360 been terribly interested in foreign policy apart from apart from Palestine. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.640 Exactly, or any policy for that matter. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.440 Rich O, you know, we heard from Alberan Easy and 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:24.240 Richard Mars today and others are saying that this was 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.840 all simply not true. Well, what are they going to 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.200 say tomorrow, given that Russia has come out and give 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:31.160 it a statement on this. 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.840 Well, first word would probably be whoops, because it seems 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.160 that they made a mistake. And so I think you've 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.680 got to walk back when you make a mistake because 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.560 the mob will always work you out. As I always say, 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.920 so you just put your hand up and say sorry, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:48.960 got that wrong. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.760 Well are the mob working elbow out yet, do you think, 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:53.120 rich O? 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.880 I think they work him out. They like him, there's 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.760 no question about that. Is a very likable fellow. I 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.760 can understand that. But the fact that they like him 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.560 doesn't mean that he has ultimate trust. He's got a 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.560 lot of trust, a lot of faith in him has 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.600 been invested, but he's still got to keep it on 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:14.200 his toes. 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:15.280 It's funny. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.680 I was literally saying on air last night that there's 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.200 only two people I know out of everyone I know 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:23.720 who thinks Albanize is doing a good job, and it's 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.800 you Rich oh, and it's Joe Hildebrand and everyone else, 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.480 even if their lifelong labor voters think he has not 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.760 done a good job, and you know they're worse off. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.280 Now outfit there you'd go. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.080 Let's talk about this medi scare fear campaign from ALBANIZI. 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.880 It's been relentless. Now, the scrutiny on. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.160 This was quite slow, in my opinion, but now doctors 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.040 and the media are starting to call out the Prime 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.000 Minister's central campaign promise. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:51.320 They say it's false. 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.080 Now Alberize's policy it's eight point five billion dollars and 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.440 it tells voters that they're not going to need a 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.680 credit card to see a doctor, they'll just need their 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.040 Many Care card. Now this has been slammed by doctors. 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.120 Here is the Australian Medical Association's President, Danniel McMullan. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.760 Today, in many parts of Australia we're seeing out of 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.520 the average out of pocket cost is just above forty 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.040 dollars and so the twenty dollars extra incentive doesn't meet 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.360 the costs of providing that comprehensive care. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.720 So there is there is still truth to the claim 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.800 that yes, you need a Medicare card, but you also 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.040 need a credit card and that'll continue. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.639 It does depend. It's important that Australians get access to 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.879 that high quality, comprehensive care, and for some people that 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.920 will still mean paying an out of pocket cost. 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.680 And Michael, this issue was front page of the papers today. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.720 The Australian reported that frontline gps have been widely discussing 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.760 how they do not expect their practice to become fully 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.159 bulk billing and they won't be in a position to 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.840 utilize the triple bulk billing incentive for most of their 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.719 patients because doing so would represent a pay cut and 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:59.520 then make their practice unviable. But Michael, this is just 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.360 simply an obvious fact, isn't it. 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.920 Yeah, of course, But look, let me pay credit to 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.919 Graham who one of his other famous statements was, whatever 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:15.359 it takes Albanize is number one brand equity, Labour's number 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.359 one brand equity. The number one reason people vote for 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.760 the Labor Party is essentially because of Medicare right. Medicare 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.960 is theoretically under attack in every single election from sixteen onwards. 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:27.119 Right. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.520 They took a pause in nineteen because they're increasing taxes. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.800 But this is the one thing Labour does that every election. 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.520 Medicare is under enormous stress, and even when it's not, 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.240 they throw more money at it. You've got to get 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.320 people talking about medicare in Labour's opinion. 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:41.520 Right. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.840 They can't talk about cost of living, immigration, crime, foreign policy, 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.680 you know, the Middle East anymore? You know, none of 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.880 those subjects the two seventy five, so their whole campaign 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:53.960 is based on every two or three days is a 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.760 rip trip on Medicare. Now, what's happened today? Albert's been 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.919 caught out as just a ballfaced liar. I mean, you 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.199 know it's not that card, albou. You should put up 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:04.880 the other hand with the credit card as well as 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.040 everyone now knows. But it doesn't matter to Labor. They 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.919 just keep telling the same lie. And he says it 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.960 in press conferences and Chalmers said it that Dutton is 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:15.960 going to slash and burn medicare. If I haven't heard 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:19.760 that once, I've heard it a dozen times. No enterprising journalists, 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:23.200 no over than our friend today who asked Dutton about women. 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.760 None of those journalists you know, have said one word 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.639 to Alba about sorry, where is Peter Dutton slashing and burning? 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.000 Not a single question? So this is a lie, Labor perpetuate. 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.120 They cat flat from insiders online, but amongst the great 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.879 populace they think Medicaire is under attack again. 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:41.280 Yeah it is. 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:45.160 It is a complete scare campaign. And you remember how 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.200 angry Malcolm Turmble was when Labor first rolled this out 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.480 and sent the text messages a couple days before the 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.000 election that Madie Care was going to be scrapped it 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.320 and yet it worked, and so they're still doing it, Richo. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.000 This is set to be another broken promise, no question 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.080 about it. People are going to still the most Australians 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.520 will still have to keep paying for their visits to 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:09.639 the GP. But you know, the Australians don't seem to 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.840 wake up. They don't seem to wake up to the 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.119 fact that the broken promise at the last election was 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.080 over the cheaper cost of living in power bills as well. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:19.880 Well. 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.640 I mean, I think you look at an overall package 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:29.600 and very rarely does a politician keep every single line 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:33.920 of an overall package. They don't keep them all late 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:38.120 they'll drops up. It's inevitable and that's what's happened here. 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:40.840 But if you look at the numbers when that the 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:44.240 polls produce, didn't seem to be doing Anthony much damage. 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.359 So I guess you'll keep going. 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.760 Yeah, No, it's not. It's helping him, that's for sure. 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:54.560 Now we saw John Howard campaigning in Wa today and 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.880 he's looking it's just a reminder of what a great 0:20:58.000 --> 0:20:59.959 leader he was and how it's been such a long time. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:05.240 I'm really since Australia has had a solid, competent prime minister. 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:05.960 Here he was. 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.000 I don't think we lost a lot of safe seats. 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:14.120 We lost a safe seat to a Teal in Kurtin, 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.879 and I just simply say to people who've voted for 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.919 the independent teal in Curtain, if you want at this 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.360 election to get rid of mister Albin Easy he don't 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:28.399 vote Toeal. Could you end up not getting a change 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:28.920 of government? 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.720 I mean Michael So he was speaking there, of course 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.440 about the seat of Curtain which was lost to a Teal. 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.600 He's hoping to help Dutton win it back. But isn't 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.680 it incredible to see John Howard is eighty five now 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:46.240 and he's traveling the country to Wa because he's so 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.199 committed that he wants to help the Liberal Party, he 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:51.200 wants to help Australia. 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:56.480 Yeah, he is phenomenal. He's done a number of events 0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.600 for seats in Melbourne. He has a lot more requests 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.840 than vents that he can do because he's getting a 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.439 little bit older unlike the rest of us. But he 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:06.920 came to a couple of events in Melbourne and I 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:10.119 happily chaffed him to one and he was utterly magnificent. 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.320 At lunch we're at in the electorate of Bruce and 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.919 one of the interesting things was someone was asking him about, 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:17.760 you know, the level of debt in this country, what 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.320 we would do about you know, things obviously can't keep 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:23.080 going like this. And this person was asking John howd 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:27.400 about whether Labor would introduce inheritance taxes, death duties, etc. 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.480 Which has always been the you know, the dream of 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:33.200 the left of the Labor Party. And you know, the 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:37.840 basic view was wanting to reveal private conversations that sooner 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:39.840 or later Labor has to do something about the debt 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:42.040 level in this country, as we do if we're elected. 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:43.320 Just the debt just. 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:46.800 Can't keep growing as it is. Labor is not so 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.800 much about growing the economy. It's about increasing taxes, so 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.879 that could possibly be on the gener He's ruled our 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:56.239 changes to capital gain saxon negative gearing, so why not 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:58.879 inheritance taxes? So you never know what Albany's He's going 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:00.199 to do the. 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.840 Way Albert easy. And you might remember this, rich Sho. 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.800 Back when he was a young bloke, he argued for 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.760 inheritance taxes. I wrote this story at the last election. 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.200 It was the front page of The Australian and he was. 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:13.320 So angry about it. 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.560 But it's his own record, Richo. 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:16.600 Do you remember that he was. 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:19.560 This radical figure arguing literally for death duties. 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:24.160 I remember as secretary of the party he knew South Wales. 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.320 They're just slapping him down every now and again because 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.640 he was the radical, young lefty, but he's always been 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:31.080 very good. 0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:32.680 Might need to give you, You might need to give 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:33.639 him another ring, rich O. 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:36.320 It may happen. 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:36.879 Don't worry. 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:37.560 It may happen. 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.119 Yeah, I mean I'll tell you what death duties would 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.679 be a killer if that came out, But that's what 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:44.760