WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 2 September

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<v Speaker 1>This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you so much for watching.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a lot of work to do tonight. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much, Shari. Let us get into it in

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<v Speaker 1>the Man Cave right now. Now, for a large part

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<v Speaker 1>of the country, the changeover to spring has meant everyone

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<v Speaker 1>gets to live in Queensland. The weather has been perfect

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<v Speaker 1>in lots of parts of the country, which has been awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of the best news I can give

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<v Speaker 1>you tonight because, of course, anyone who is working is

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<v Speaker 1>going backwards. Why? Real wages are not keeping up with inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, if you're in small business, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>feel the squeeze all day, every day. So I bring

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<v Speaker 1>to you tonight a opinion poll with a difference. For

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, the essential organisation, they put out the

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<v Speaker 1>opinion poll in the Turnbull Times, the Guardian, which tracks

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<v Speaker 1>the national mood of the country. And the number is

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<v Speaker 1>not good. In fact, tonight, 59% of people believe the

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<v Speaker 1>country is headed in the wrong direction, the wrong track.

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<v Speaker 1>Just 23% of people saying that less than a quarter

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<v Speaker 1>of the country is saying that we're headed in the

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<v Speaker 1>right direction. And we all know this. We live it.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about it each and every day. But to

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<v Speaker 1>put this into context, the number of people who think

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<v Speaker 1>the country is headed in the right direction is the

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<v Speaker 1>lowest number ever under the Albanese government. Look in the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom right-hand corner. 23% lowest number ever. Since the election

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<v Speaker 1>of the government in 2022, the highest number ever for

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<v Speaker 1>the country headed in the wrong direction at 59%. Think

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<v Speaker 1>of everything in the first term, think about everything after

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<v Speaker 1>the voice, we'll think about here we are now. The

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<v Speaker 1>worst number in the country in terms of people who

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<v Speaker 1>think that we are headed in the right direction, the

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<v Speaker 1>worst number in the history of this government when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the wrong track. And whom does Australia blame

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<v Speaker 1>for the current circumstance? Well, finally, they've realised that it

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<v Speaker 1>is the Prime Minister who is holding the proverbial baby,

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<v Speaker 1>that the man in charge of the country is actually

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<v Speaker 1>in charge of the country, and the decisions that he,

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<v Speaker 1>along with his mates, make is turning us in the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong direction. Prime Minister's disapproval is now 56% in a

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<v Speaker 1>poll in The Guardian. All right? Now, in fairness, the

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<v Speaker 1>opinion poll is not like the editorial line from the

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<v Speaker 1>news organisation that it appears in. But still, if there

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<v Speaker 1>was ever going to be a positive one, it'd turn

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<v Speaker 1>up here. It's not. In fact, that's why the don't

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<v Speaker 1>know number is there, and it probably pulls back some

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<v Speaker 1>of those numbers. Just 35% of people, pretty much the

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Party primary vote, which, according to this poll, again,

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<v Speaker 1>is at record lows. We're now sort of moving to the...

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<v Speaker 1>low 20s rather than the mid-20s, let alone the 30s

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<v Speaker 1>that were there in the last election. And guess what

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<v Speaker 1>the story is again? A record number of people disapproving

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<v Speaker 1>of the Prime Minister, the highest number he has ever

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<v Speaker 1>had since this poll was first taken. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>on the far left of your screen, the red or

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<v Speaker 1>what might seem like an orange line, well, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the disapproval number, which was basically at 50-50 at the

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<v Speaker 1>2022 election, bang, it goes straight down, positivity at about 60%.

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<v Speaker 1>And then slowly but surely, that falls away to 35%,

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<v Speaker 1>and the disapproval, it goes from about, what, 15% to 56%.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the Prime Minister sits right now. His approval,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, again, lowest number on record. Finally, the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister is being held accountable for his actions. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew all of these before the 22 election. We

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about them all the way through the first term.

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<v Speaker 1>We wished for a different outcome today. in the 25 election,

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<v Speaker 1>and who knows what's going to happen at the next election.

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<v Speaker 1>And no doubt the Labor Party boffins will simply say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just the middle of the race, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really matter. Well, the truth is that if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pay off a home, there's 15 interest rate rises

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<v Speaker 1>with a chance of another two to come before there's

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<v Speaker 1>even a conversation about levelling out or maybe going down.

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<v Speaker 1>And in small business, people that you wouldn't think would

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<v Speaker 1>be ragging on the Labor Party are doing so, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's making national attention. Can I introduce you to this woman?

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<v Speaker 1>She's been in the beauty industry for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name is Crystal. She runs a joint called Lux

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<v Speaker 1>Label Hair. It's in Perth. News.com.au pointed out what she

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<v Speaker 1>has written on social media in the past couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>She had enough. The hugely popular salon erupts at the government,

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<v Speaker 1>says she's close to packing it in. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>young woman at the peak of her powers but under

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<v Speaker 1>the maximum stress. This is the story of anyone. trying

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<v Speaker 1>to live outside of the triangle of dependence, working for

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<v Speaker 1>the government, welfare from the government, or the government being

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<v Speaker 1>your customer. Quote, this year, every single cost went up. Wages, super, insurance, rent,

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<v Speaker 1>software compliance. All of it correct. We can't ask our

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<v Speaker 1>clients to pay more to cover it because they're being

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<v Speaker 1>squeezed just as hard. Every quarter, there's another deadline, another bill,

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<v Speaker 1>another increase, another thing we have to comply with and

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<v Speaker 1>a penalty waiting if we don't. She wrote to the Post,

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<v Speaker 1>she also tagged the Prime Minister in the hope that

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<v Speaker 1>he would see it. Well, I tell you what, they

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<v Speaker 1>will and truly have seen it because it's gone viral.

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<v Speaker 1>As you can see, she's had enough. It is good

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<v Speaker 1>to see people coming to the realisation and it is

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<v Speaker 1>sad that our fears of this government have all come true.

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<v Speaker 1>But hopefully people will maintain the rage, will not be

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<v Speaker 1>distracted by whatever the distraction or the buy-off politics is

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<v Speaker 1>that exists between now and the next election. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a world of pain for Australians and it's about time

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<v Speaker 1>the government, responsible for it, paid for it. Remember a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days ago we showed you Annika Wells' ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous social media post where she was patronising, doing the

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<v Speaker 1>Play School Host thing, trying to explain the housing market

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<v Speaker 1>when it came to Ooshies, because, you know, Ooshies are cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dolly, pardon me, because, you know, we're all thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about Dolly at the moment. One more time.

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<v Speaker 2>What did these guys and the Australian housing market have

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<v Speaker 2>in common? Both the ushy market and the Australian housing

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<v Speaker 2>market are dictated by supply and demand. The problem right

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<v Speaker 2>now is that supply of ushies and supply of housing

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<v Speaker 2>is not keeping pace with demand.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thankfully... There is somebody who feels the same way

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<v Speaker 1>that we do, and I'm pleased that so many people

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to pay attention, as they should, to the

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<v Speaker 1>absurdity of these social media videos, how patronising they all are.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's time to turn the joke from one on us,

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<v Speaker 1>because we pay for it, back at then. Jamie Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>she does a podcast with our dear friend Jamie Rogers,

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<v Speaker 1>and she decided to mock this video, including the very

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<v Speaker 1>words of the minister. Jamie, well done. Gold star. I

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<v Speaker 1>love this. If you can find it, share it as

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<v Speaker 1>wide as you can. Roll the tape.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm your minister for communications. What do these guys and

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<v Speaker 3>government spending in Canberra have in common? Let's break it

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<v Speaker 3>down using international travel expenses. One ushi represents $ 1, 000. If

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<v Speaker 3>I were to fly to New York return business class

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<v Speaker 3>via either cafe or Qatar Airways using my own money,

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<v Speaker 3>it would cost eight ushis. But using taxpayer money, I

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<v Speaker 3>was able to spend... 34 Ooshies. Now, I actually took

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<v Speaker 3>two other staff with me, so really, I spent 94 Ooshies.

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<v Speaker 4>Fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>The joke isn't on us. The joke is them. Laugh

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<v Speaker 1>at them directly. Of course, all of that a reference

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<v Speaker 1>to the future Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 5>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's the way Fadia works in Australia. Rather than

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<v Speaker 1>being flushed out of the system, she'll end up going

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<v Speaker 1>to the very top. And, of course, she is the

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<v Speaker 1>Minister for Freebies. Why? Because she, of course, was more

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<v Speaker 1>than happy to use the rules and do nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>as the Sports Minister to fly around as if she

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the players. No matter the code, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter the sport, she was there supporting. Anyway, Jamie's not done.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this video.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem right now is that we in Canberra spend

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<v Speaker 3>these ushis taxpayer money. Like there's a never ending supply,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's not. We need more of your money.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we fix it?

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<v Speaker 2>To fix the ushi crisis.

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<v Speaker 3>We should learn to respect taxpayers and their money to

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<v Speaker 3>deliver ushi equilibrium, whereby we use ushi's taxpayer money as

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<v Speaker 3>though it were our own.

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<v Speaker 6>That's pretty easy.

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<v Speaker 3>But the problem is that recently there's been a shortage

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<v Speaker 3>of ushi's taxpayer money.

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<v Speaker 2>To fix that problem and increase supply, at the last budget.

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<v Speaker 3>Labor told Australian taxpayers they needed to pay more. So

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<v Speaker 3>they introduced drastic changes to Australia's tax system, effectively crashing

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<v Speaker 3>the property market. Sounds pretty good to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Chef's kiss. Well done. And when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>dumb social media videos, the one place you'll find them

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<v Speaker 1>every night, every night here while you're working. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that in a couple of minutes' time.

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<v Speaker 4>Fair dinkum.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as you know, the past couple of days, the

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<v Speaker 1>absurdity of the Prime Minister going too far, making things

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<v Speaker 1>too personal and, in my view, raising the temperature too

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<v Speaker 1>high on Pauline Hanson. Why? Because, of course, the term

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<v Speaker 1>that is used by the most hateful online about anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who disagrees with the government, let alone offering a political

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<v Speaker 1>alternative to the government, what do you get called? Far right.

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<v Speaker 1>Far right. Far right. Far right. Far right. And just

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<v Speaker 1>like Michelle Obama told Democrats to vote like your life

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<v Speaker 1>depends on it, let's turn that up to 11 too.

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<v Speaker 1>We simply must defeat them. We owe it to history.

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<v Speaker 7>We owe it to the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, unbelievably, there is someone playing exactly the same angle

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the Nepal disaster, believe it or not. Now, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>this has involved thousands of people, the death toll through

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<v Speaker 1>the roof. There's dozens of Australians that are still missing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple have been found. But how you link these

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<v Speaker 1>two things, good luck. But apparently some people went commenting

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<v Speaker 1>on these stories online, are making disgraceful and outright racist

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<v Speaker 1>statements about the Australian victims that are in Nepal. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, this is a disgrace, not acceptable, not OK,

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<v Speaker 1>not in anyone's name. You should be ashamed of yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and think twice about what you do online. A slew

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<v Speaker 1>of racist social media comments have been made towards Australians

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<v Speaker 1>missing in the catastrophic Nepal-Tibet floods, prompting calls for greater

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<v Speaker 1>accountability of major platforms to remove hatred. Now, apparently, dozens

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<v Speaker 1>of people have been commenting on these things, saying that

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<v Speaker 1>the citizens are not white and therefore weren't really Australian.

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<v Speaker 4>Rubbish. Terrible. Disgraceful.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're involved in any of that, please, go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want you watching. Don't want you sharing. Just disgraceful stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So how does this somehow link back to the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>and the temperature being risen in and around One Nation? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>cue the Race Discrimination Commissioner. Now, he was approached by

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<v Speaker 1>The Guardian because they know that he can see racism here,

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<v Speaker 1>there and everywhere. Remember the National Press Club last year?

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<v Speaker 1>This was his speech.

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<v Speaker 4>Racism.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not joking, that was only half of the

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<v Speaker 1>mentions inside that speech. This was his quote. The Race

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<v Speaker 1>Discrimination Commissioner said, that he wasn't surprised by the comments

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<v Speaker 1>which he's connected to Australia's current debate on migrants. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying you don't deserve to, to be seen as

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<v Speaker 1>an Australian. And that's amplified by the rhetoric of far-right

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<v Speaker 1>populist parties. So somehow it's Pauline Hanson's fault that losers

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<v Speaker 1>are saying racist stuff about Australians and non-Australians, human beings

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<v Speaker 1>that are suffering on the other side of the world. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know and I know, regardless of whom you're planning

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for, 99.999% of Australians every day are looking

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<v Speaker 1>to this story to find signs of hope and the

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<v Speaker 1>endless stories of heartbreak are heartbreaking. So let's push back

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<v Speaker 1>against this bloke and those who want to pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow there's a domestic politics slur that Australians don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>There are many ways you can give. You pick your charity.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight I'm going to point you towards the Red Cross.

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<v Speaker 1>To show you care, redcross.org.au forward slash global dash emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>Redcross.org.au global emergency. There's the button. Give the money. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>get there as fast as possible. If you prefer to

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<v Speaker 1>do UNICEF, if you prefer to do Oxfam, if you

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<v Speaker 1>prefer to do Médecins Sans Frontières, if you prefer whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the charity it is, that's the way to push back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way to show this bloke that all of

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<v Speaker 1>that hot air and wind does not apply, certainly in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation. Now, another shooting in Sydney. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>51st shooting that has happened in Sydney so far this year.

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<v Speaker 1>This was one that apparently took place in Maryland. This

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<v Speaker 1>is where a man had been shot dead in front

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<v Speaker 1>of his kids. This, of course, all happening in Sydney's west.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the police speaking about what happened today. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want any innocent member of the community to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Impacted by organised crime.

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<v Speaker 1>We will not tolerate it.

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<v Speaker 5>We have a significant investigation going at the moment and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm committed to making sure we put those responsible before

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<v Speaker 5>the court.

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<v Speaker 1>And, of course, the mistaken identities. from 24 hours earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite rightly, Kelly Sloan, the opposition leader... Now, look, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I like Chris Minns, everyone likes Chris Minns, but he

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<v Speaker 1>talks a wonderful game about how we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>something about it, but everything has got worse in the

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<v Speaker 1>past four years. Who's been in charge for the past

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<v Speaker 1>four years? Well, not Kelly Sloan. Who wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>in charge for the next four years? Well, Kelly Sloan.

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<v Speaker 8>This is out of control, and we have a government

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<v Speaker 8>that's saying, yeah, it's too much, but what are they doing?

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<v Speaker 8>We need to be very clear... about the threat on

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<v Speaker 8>our streets and that is dangerous, organised criminals. And unfortunately now,

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<v Speaker 8>innocent people have been in the firing line way too often.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to do a little bit of research,

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<v Speaker 1>as we always try to do, to give you some

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<v Speaker 1>data inside the opinion so you can use that data

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to inform other people about what's really

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<v Speaker 1>going on as opposed to the perceptions of what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And we tried to find out today about just how

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<v Speaker 1>many crimes are involving guns at the moment in New

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales. Again, 50th shooting of the year. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the last financial year and the way

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<v Speaker 1>that that was all put together by the Bureau of

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<v Speaker 1>Crime Statistics in New South Wales. 35 murders apparently involved

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<v Speaker 1>a firearm. Six attempted murders. 40 non-domestic assaults. 14 domestic assaults,

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<v Speaker 1>dear God. 93 robberies. Total 153. But then it also

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<v Speaker 1>got me thinking about the question many people ask, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of crime, are most of the guns registered firearms,

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<v Speaker 1>either used by registered firearms owners or stolen from registered

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<v Speaker 1>firearms owners, or are they illegal guns? Now, anecdotally, we

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<v Speaker 1>would all suggest that most likely the guns that are

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<v Speaker 1>being used in crime are the ones that no one

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<v Speaker 1>fills out the paperwork for. So we decided to ask

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<v Speaker 1>today the Bureau of Crime Statistics, hey, can you actually

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<v Speaker 1>give us the numbers? You've got data over decades. Just

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<v Speaker 1>give us the numbers for the last 12 months. How

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<v Speaker 1>many registered guns, i.e. legal guns, versus unregistered illegal guns

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<v Speaker 1>were used in those crimes that I just mentioned in

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales? Now, again... I like Bozcar, I like

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<v Speaker 1>the work they do, this is no attack on the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are working for them, but the response came

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<v Speaker 1>back when we asked this afternoon, quote, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>visibility of whether the firearm involved in an offence was

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<v Speaker 1>registered or unregistered. Now, that either means that somewhere, it's

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<v Speaker 1>down the back of the couch, they're not able to

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<v Speaker 1>find it quickly for us, but the Bureau of Crime

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<v Speaker 1>Statistics is fantastic with the level of detail that they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely someone, when they are entering the paperwork about did

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<v Speaker 1>a crime happen, was a gun involved, the third question

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<v Speaker 1>is what type of gun, i.e. legal or illegal, when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to it. The other line of attack for

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<v Speaker 1>us today was to go to the New South Wales Police.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, no attack on the people who work and

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<v Speaker 1>help the media get information. But virtually the instant response

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<v Speaker 1>that we got back from the New South Wales Police

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<v Speaker 1>to answer this question was, data will need to be

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<v Speaker 1>obtained by Bozcar... Again, they've already given us their answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Or by a GIPA request. What is a GIPA? Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>a Freedom of Information request. Now, surely, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting in any way that somebody's hiding this number, but

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<v Speaker 1>surely there is a number for us to slowly but

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<v Speaker 1>surely learn about. Surely, somewhere from the crime scene to

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<v Speaker 1>the crime stats, someone... keeps a list. So we know

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<v Speaker 1>what the problem is. Now, New South Wales has been

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<v Speaker 1>a very aggressive state, along with others, about the national buyback.

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<v Speaker 1>They signed up to that not long ago. They've made

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<v Speaker 1>it clear that they want to cut back on the

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<v Speaker 1>number of registered firearms somebody is able to own, let

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<v Speaker 1>alone in regional areas, slightly more. But clearly the problem

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be someone, somewhere, with the use of

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<v Speaker 1>illegal guns. I'd like to know because I want us

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<v Speaker 1>to have a conversation based in fact. My assumption is

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<v Speaker 1>that most crimes are involving illegal firearms. You would have

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<v Speaker 1>to think that by 2026, someone somewhere is writing that

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<v Speaker 1>number down. If not, what the heck's going on? Suffice

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I am now sufficiently interested. We'll continue to

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<v Speaker 1>follow up. And anyone who has access to this information,

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<v Speaker 1>we look forward to hearing it from you sooner rather

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<v Speaker 1>than later. And speaking of the opaque world of secrecy

0:18:32.350 --> 0:18:35.190
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to governments... You remember the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>and H.Y. Albo, the Prime Minister, whose numbers are getting

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<v Speaker 1>worse by the day, including in the Guardian opinion poll.

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<v Speaker 1>And H.Y. Albo promises things like transparency before he gets

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<v Speaker 1>into government.

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<v Speaker 7>The truth is that we're an open, transparent party. There

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<v Speaker 7>needs to be complete transparency. What we need is a

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<v Speaker 7>Prime Minister who's prepared to be transparent. A more honest

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<v Speaker 7>and transparent government going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>We will make it transparent.

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<v Speaker 7>We're being transparent.

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth is we live inside Albo's house of secrets.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we make that claim? Why do we poke

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<v Speaker 1>fun at them? Because... Independent organisations have concluded, among other things,

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<v Speaker 1>the Albanese government is worse than the previous Liberal government

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<v Speaker 1>at producing documents. Like, only about a quarter of all

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<v Speaker 1>documents that they get asked for, they ever hand over.

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<v Speaker 1>And then even when they do hand them over, there's

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<v Speaker 1>black lines across everything. Remember, this literally would be an

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<v Speaker 1>example of, hey, can you give us some documents about

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<v Speaker 1>how you came to this decision? Sure, here's the documents,

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<v Speaker 1>but good luck reading them. Well, the past couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>the redacted documents game, the... House of Secrets that we

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<v Speaker 1>live within is all to do with the Climate Change Minister.

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<v Speaker 1>el presidente casanova chris bowen now as you know he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be the cop president and for the climate

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<v Speaker 1>change meeting run by the united nations to happen in

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<v Speaker 1>adelaide it's not happening it's happening in turkey the consolation

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<v Speaker 1>prize was that he gets to be some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>special roving president who gets to have Meetings with, among

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<v Speaker 1>other specific, island nations. That, of course, playing out as

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<v Speaker 1>we speak in Fiji. It's going to cost a fair

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money. 20 million bucks when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the climate summit that apparently he's putting in place right now. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what? You can't know anything about what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>The Labor government departments have blocked the release of a

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<v Speaker 1>guest list about who is actually going to this thing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister was very annoyed about this suggestion today,

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<v Speaker 1>that no-one's turning up. He said, well, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>count Australia? OK, cool, I'll count us, as in the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian taxpayer who's paying for it. The, of course, purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of this is just the consolation prize to Chris Bowen

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<v Speaker 1>for not being able to hold the Global Summit, which

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<v Speaker 1>will set the next round of climate targets, and for

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<v Speaker 1>the Paris Accord to be known as the Adelaide Accord,

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<v Speaker 1>instead it'll be the Turkia Accord. The government departments have

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<v Speaker 1>rejected a coalition bid to expose who will attend the

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<v Speaker 1>pre-cop event in Fiji. After Revelations climate minister Chris Bowen

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<v Speaker 1>was struggling to lock in world leaders with a multi-million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar gathering, opposition energy spokesperson Dan Tehan said the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister and Cabinet advised his team last week that it

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<v Speaker 1>had a document referred to as an invitation list, but

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<v Speaker 1>it could not be shared. The document recorded confidential replies

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<v Speaker 1>from countries, including indicators showing whether invitations are accepted, declined

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<v Speaker 1>or still under consideration. In its correspondence with Mr Tehan,

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<v Speaker 1>the department said documents that contained confidential information from foreign

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<v Speaker 1>governments could not be released. It's the guest list. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't know who's going to turn up. You're paying for

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway. You don't know who won't turn up and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know who might turn up. Oh, but this

0:21:54.890 --> 0:21:57.330
<v Speaker 1>is the culture of secrecy was so bad about the

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<v Speaker 1>previous government. This is the current government with what you

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine would be a great source of pride for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's been invited? Who's turned them down? And why? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, we know this Prime Minister, this Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even go to the cops when they're held overseas. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a great outrage, whether or not Scott Morrison

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<v Speaker 1>would or wouldn't go. Well, of course, our point, CBF

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when it comes to these things. As for Dantian,

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<v Speaker 1>when he was asked about all of this, release of

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<v Speaker 1>this information could reasonably be expected to undermine relationships with

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<v Speaker 1>other countries. This is what was, by the way, written

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<v Speaker 1>here to Dantian, and may adversely affect Australia's ability to

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<v Speaker 1>conduct future diplomatic engagement. This is the crap that we

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<v Speaker 1>were fed. Can we go back? Can we play the

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<v Speaker 1>little mega grab there of the Prime Minister and his

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<v Speaker 1>promise of transparency? When they get asked questions, oh, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take that on notice, they never really answer them. There's

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<v Speaker 1>more than 1,000 questions waiting. And then at the state level,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently you've got to fill out a form and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even pay to ask just how many of the guns

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<v Speaker 1>that are currently being used in crime in that particular

0:23:10.580 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>state are registered or unregistered. Something's weird here, very weird here. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>there are people inside the political system who are able

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<v Speaker 1>to at least ask the questions of those and force

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<v Speaker 1>an answer. An example, of course, is Cory Bernardi, the

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<v Speaker 1>South Australian leader for One Nation. Good news for them

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<v Speaker 1>today is that there's been some interesting opinion polls which

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<v Speaker 1>have popped up. In fact, according to the latest opinion polls,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no buyer's regret when it comes to One

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<v Speaker 1>Nation voters in South Australia, their vote slightly up from

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<v Speaker 1>where it was at the last election, now at 25%

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<v Speaker 1>of the primary vote. The government still sitting pretty at

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<v Speaker 1>about 37%, and the Liberal Party going backwards. I spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to the great man from Adelaide a bit earlier today,

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<v Speaker 1>and I began by asking him, there's no sign of

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<v Speaker 1>voter regret, is there?

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<v Speaker 6>No, there's no regrets because, you know, we're actually taking

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<v Speaker 6>the fight up to the government. We're trying to hold

0:24:03.410 --> 0:24:06.020
<v Speaker 6>them to account. With mixed success, I have to say,

0:24:06.060 --> 0:24:07.159
<v Speaker 6>the numbers are against us.

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<v Speaker 4>You get the.

0:24:07.619 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 6>Liberal Party voting with the Labor Party and voting with

0:24:10.500 --> 0:24:13.850
<v Speaker 6>the Greens. So everyone's against One Nation. And I've come

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:17.810
<v Speaker 6>to this conclusion, Paul. They hate One Nation basically because

0:24:18.050 --> 0:24:21.030
<v Speaker 6>they hate people having autonomy. They hate people having a voice.

0:24:21.070 --> 0:24:24.270
<v Speaker 6>They want people to be controlled. And One Nation are

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<v Speaker 6>the only party that's sticking up now for freedom, for

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<v Speaker 6>common sense and for decency in our society.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the joy of you being in the parliament, right,

0:24:31.869 --> 0:24:33.790
<v Speaker 1>as powerful a voice as it is outside of the

0:24:33.810 --> 0:24:37.320
<v Speaker 1>parliament is, is that the system knows how to ignore

0:24:37.700 --> 0:24:41.020
<v Speaker 1>those that know its faults, right? You've seen the blueprints

0:24:41.060 --> 0:24:43.100
<v Speaker 1>of the Death Star. You know where the hole is.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been able to make the most of that during

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<v Speaker 1>the election campaign, but now, in the multiple years that

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<v Speaker 1>you and plenty of others will have in the upstairs

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<v Speaker 1>and downstairs... It means they can't hide. It means you've

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<v Speaker 1>got access, even when they will buck and fight and

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<v Speaker 1>try to move away from it. At budget estimates, they

0:25:00.140 --> 0:25:02.810
<v Speaker 1>can't move away. You've got to ask a direct question. Again,

0:25:02.850 --> 0:25:05.370
<v Speaker 1>you can't control their answer, but they have to be

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<v Speaker 1>confronted by the population that is otherwise ignored.

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<v Speaker 6>That's absolutely right, Paul. And I know how the system works.

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<v Speaker 6>I know how the obfuscation works. And my role right

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<v Speaker 6>now is to hold the government to account, but also

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<v Speaker 6>to help train the team. And I have to say

0:25:20.380 --> 0:25:22.460
<v Speaker 6>they're coming along really well. They've got a lot of

0:25:22.510 --> 0:25:25.170
<v Speaker 6>fire in their belly. They're looking after their electorates and

0:25:25.210 --> 0:25:27.949
<v Speaker 6>we're making some inroads. And one of the frustrations, I'll

0:25:27.970 --> 0:25:30.689
<v Speaker 6>share this with you, yesterday we asked the Deputy Premier

0:25:30.730 --> 0:25:33.070
<v Speaker 6>in the Upper House, what are his plans to lower

0:25:33.090 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 6>the cost of living in terms of cutting government charges

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.540
<v Speaker 6>and costs for businesses and for households? He had nothing

0:25:39.580 --> 0:25:42.020
<v Speaker 6>to say. He stood on his rhetoric before and he

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.260
<v Speaker 6>just said, I haven't really got a plan for the future.

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 6>And that's the problem we've got. Everyone is looking in

0:25:47.820 --> 0:25:50.909
<v Speaker 6>the rearview mirror rather than forward. And we're going to

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.490
<v Speaker 6>have a state here with a very popular premier, I

0:25:53.510 --> 0:25:55.649
<v Speaker 6>have to say, but he's part of a machine that

0:25:55.710 --> 0:25:59.630
<v Speaker 6>is captive to the Albanese leftist agenda, which is going

0:25:59.650 --> 0:26:02.510
<v Speaker 6>to destroy Australia and is already indebting our state.

0:26:02.530 --> 0:26:03.629
<v Speaker 4>We're up to $ 50 billion.

0:26:03.650 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 6>We're on a Victorian-like trajectory and that's not going to

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:07.260
<v Speaker 6>end well.

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<v Speaker 1>I should mention as well, of course, when it comes

0:26:09.380 --> 0:26:11.740
<v Speaker 1>to the preferred Premier, yeah, Malinowskis out in front, but

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.700
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at the preferred opposition leader right now because

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.340
<v Speaker 1>Corey Bernardi is now ahead of the Libs, ahead of

0:26:18.780 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the field, a nice little feather in

0:26:21.340 --> 0:26:23.260
<v Speaker 1>your cap a few months in. People are liking what

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:26.350
<v Speaker 1>you're doing. Now, part of that is..... that you just

0:26:26.410 --> 0:26:29.530
<v Speaker 1>go straight up to the ferals and we saw the

0:26:29.630 --> 0:26:31.869
<v Speaker 1>protest out the front of Parliament. They were willing to

0:26:31.890 --> 0:26:34.889
<v Speaker 1>show their faces publicly, but, God forbid, you showed their

0:26:34.950 --> 0:26:38.379
<v Speaker 1>faces on the internet. Demands for the videos to come down.

0:26:38.460 --> 0:26:40.340
<v Speaker 1>You weren't going to do that any time soon. So, now,

0:26:40.700 --> 0:26:41.679
<v Speaker 1>no Facebook for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's... It's extraordinary.

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.450
<v Speaker 6>I did receive some legal demands about saying I shouldn't

0:26:47.470 --> 0:26:50.450
<v Speaker 6>be putting these people who put on a public spectacle

0:26:50.490 --> 0:26:53.770
<v Speaker 6>that were saying hateful things about One Nation and Pauline Hanson.

0:26:54.630 --> 0:26:57.250
<v Speaker 6>I didn't actually take that video myself. I took some

0:26:57.530 --> 0:27:00.369
<v Speaker 6>of myself and I submitted it into the system and

0:27:00.390 --> 0:27:03.970
<v Speaker 6>they cobbled something together. You know, what I find extraordinary

0:27:04.010 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 6>is the left, the political left, will say that kids

0:27:06.619 --> 0:27:10.740
<v Speaker 6>can make decisions for themselves. They're allowed to bunk off school.

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 6>They're allowed to say hateful things. They're allowed to take

0:27:13.060 --> 0:27:15.820
<v Speaker 6>puberty blockers if they want to and be autonomous. But

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 6>they're not allowed to be held to account for attending

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 6>a public rally and making a right tit of themselves,

0:27:21.660 --> 0:27:23.869
<v Speaker 6>if I can put it like that. You know, One

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.070
<v Speaker 6>Nation are not scared. We will not be cowed. I

0:27:26.090 --> 0:27:30.010
<v Speaker 6>will not be bullied by lawyers or anyone else. And,

0:27:30.310 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, in respect to Facebook, It was GetUp, actually,

0:27:33.780 --> 0:27:36.740
<v Speaker 6>who put out a campaign letter saying that they should

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.260
<v Speaker 6>complain to their supporters, they should complain to Meta. which

0:27:40.300 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 6>runs Facebook, about One Nation and their policies. That's exactly

0:27:44.700 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 6>what's happened. And, of course, like all leftists, they lie

0:27:47.220 --> 0:27:48.900
<v Speaker 6>about it to the media and say, no, we never

0:27:48.940 --> 0:27:51.510
<v Speaker 6>sent anything out, we never told people to do it. But,

0:27:51.700 --> 0:27:55.050
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's happened and I'm not fussed about it.

0:27:55.530 --> 0:27:57.770
<v Speaker 6>I reckon we'll get reinstated to Facebook at some point

0:27:58.310 --> 0:28:00.650
<v Speaker 6>and look out, we'll just keep doing what we're doing,

0:28:00.690 --> 0:28:02.110
<v Speaker 6>sticking up for the people of Australia.

0:28:02.369 --> 0:28:04.770
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, again, it's one of these things and I sort of...

0:28:05.450 --> 0:28:07.169
<v Speaker 1>I've never really found the right form of words, but

0:28:07.190 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I think people understand the point here, right, which is

0:28:09.220 --> 0:28:11.860
<v Speaker 1>that can we pick which decade we're in? Are we

0:28:11.900 --> 0:28:15.820
<v Speaker 1>in a pearl-clutching decade that wants to, you know, keep

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the innocence of kids, or is it the one where, again,

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.669
<v Speaker 1>if they want to flip genders, the system will help

0:28:20.710 --> 0:28:24.369
<v Speaker 1>them do that without their... parental buy-in? Do we want

0:28:24.390 --> 0:28:26.510
<v Speaker 1>to turn around and say that, oh, this form of

0:28:26.550 --> 0:28:30.060
<v Speaker 1>political speech is offensive but you can have whatever song

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>that you and I would both go, really? That was released?

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.580
<v Speaker 1>Go to the top of the charts. Again, this is

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:39.830
<v Speaker 1>the very selective morality that gets kicked in here about

0:28:39.910 --> 0:28:42.970
<v Speaker 1>what gets weaponised and what What line is crossed? Well, again,

0:28:43.010 --> 0:28:45.370
<v Speaker 1>let's just be consistent here. If you're cool with your

0:28:45.410 --> 0:28:48.950
<v Speaker 1>kid being politically active, good luck to you. If they're

0:28:48.990 --> 0:28:50.670
<v Speaker 1>willing to go to a protest, good luck to them.

0:28:50.970 --> 0:28:52.580
<v Speaker 1>But if somebody's going to film them at the protest,

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:53.900
<v Speaker 1>what's the surprise?

0:28:54.780 --> 0:28:55.380
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's right.

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 6>And, of course, I've been attacked for filming people at

0:28:58.220 --> 0:29:01.500
<v Speaker 6>the protest, but so has every other media outlet there, right?

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 6>They just don't like the slant that we put on

0:29:03.660 --> 0:29:06.940
<v Speaker 6>it because we're not regurgitating the nonsense that the left

0:29:06.980 --> 0:29:09.770
<v Speaker 6>want us to regurgitate. And I've got to tell you, Paul...

0:29:10.310 --> 0:29:14.340
<v Speaker 6>The Australian people and South Australians have reflected to me

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 6>they want someone who's going to speak truth to the

0:29:16.980 --> 0:29:20.020
<v Speaker 6>lies out there, speak truth to the power. And I've

0:29:20.060 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 6>been in this system before. I understand it. I'm completely unafraid.

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 6>I'm unapologetic about it. And that's what scares them. It

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.950
<v Speaker 6>keeps coming back to it. They hate One Nation because

0:29:30.970 --> 0:29:33.590
<v Speaker 6>they hate the people. They want to control the people

0:29:33.870 --> 0:29:36.709
<v Speaker 6>and they cannot stand them having independence of thought. And

0:29:36.770 --> 0:29:39.130
<v Speaker 6>we see this with the e-safety commissioner. You see it

0:29:39.170 --> 0:29:41.550
<v Speaker 6>with the groupthink. you see it with all the claims

0:29:41.590 --> 0:29:43.950
<v Speaker 6>of hate speech and everything else. And now we've seen

0:29:43.970 --> 0:29:48.090
<v Speaker 6>it with the Prime Minister, really agitating for violence against

0:29:48.270 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 6>Pauline Hanson and One Nation. And I think that's despicable.

0:29:52.130 --> 0:29:56.180
<v Speaker 6>And the hypocrisy of the mean girls in the Labor Party,

0:29:56.220 --> 0:29:59.390
<v Speaker 6>the silence of them, is astounding and people are starting

0:29:59.410 --> 0:30:01.430
<v Speaker 6>to see through it, mate. So I'm going to keep

0:30:01.730 --> 0:30:03.550
<v Speaker 6>fighting as hard as I can. I'm going to join

0:30:03.590 --> 0:30:06.510
<v Speaker 6>that team who are taking it up right around the

0:30:06.570 --> 0:30:09.430
<v Speaker 6>country and more strength to One Nation's Arm because it

0:30:09.490 --> 0:30:13.710
<v Speaker 6>is the only hope we have to restore Australia to

0:30:13.730 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 6>the great country that it should be and it can

0:30:15.980 --> 0:30:16.660
<v Speaker 6>be again.

0:30:16.980 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Bloody hell. It's great to have you on the show.

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>So glad you're in the Parliament. You're there for a

0:30:19.780 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>long time too. Nice to see you, mate.

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:22.580
<v Speaker 4>Thanks, mate. You too.

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:25.500
<v Speaker 1>Good to see them, Corey Bernardi. And speaking of One Nation,

0:30:25.540 --> 0:30:29.620
<v Speaker 1>David Farley joins us after the break. They'll be simple, yes,

0:30:29.700 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>no answers, you're going to stick around for the party, planning,

0:30:32.700 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>but more importantly, we'll move on to other things, lots

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>of other things to get to, including, of course, this

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>nonsense of the Race Discrimination Commissioner somehow linking lunatics on

0:30:40.420 --> 0:30:42.710
<v Speaker 1>the internet to One Nation. What does he have to say?

0:30:42.730 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>David Farley and Lucy Zelich, next. Thank you very much

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>for watching. Well, welcome here to the Man Cave, where

0:30:53.020 --> 0:30:54.820
<v Speaker 1>it's nothing but common sense, which means the queen of

0:30:54.860 --> 0:30:56.100
<v Speaker 1>it is here, Lucy Zelich.

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I don't know about queen. Maybe court jester?

0:30:58.400 --> 0:30:58.660
<v Speaker 9>All right.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:01.930
<v Speaker 1>I'll settle for court jester. Fully deputised into common sense

0:31:01.970 --> 0:31:04.330
<v Speaker 1>is none other than, of course, David Farley, who's the

0:31:04.390 --> 0:31:06.690
<v Speaker 1>One Nation MP for Farrow. He joins us now from Albury.

0:31:06.930 --> 0:31:08.830
<v Speaker 1>Lovely to see you, mate. So let's just do the

0:31:08.870 --> 0:31:11.070
<v Speaker 1>yes-no version of this, but if I don't ask, I

0:31:11.110 --> 0:31:14.270
<v Speaker 1>get in a meeting, right? Are you committed to the

0:31:14.310 --> 0:31:16.850
<v Speaker 1>party of One Nation for the full term that you

0:31:16.890 --> 0:31:17.510
<v Speaker 1>have been elected?

0:31:18.310 --> 0:31:19.350
<v Speaker 4>Yes, of course I am.

0:31:19.750 --> 0:31:22.410
<v Speaker 1>And if you were to leave the party, would you

0:31:22.450 --> 0:31:24.770
<v Speaker 1>leave the parliament before you left the party?

0:31:25.670 --> 0:31:28.030
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think I've got no intention of leaving the party.

0:31:28.070 --> 0:31:28.830
<v Speaker 4>I've got a job to do.

0:31:29.310 --> 0:31:32.730
<v Speaker 9>I've just got to make sure that age doesn't leave me. See?

0:31:33.010 --> 0:31:35.550
<v Speaker 1>See how fast that can be done, Canberra people? It

0:31:35.590 --> 0:31:37.170
<v Speaker 1>can be that fast, all right?

0:31:37.190 --> 0:31:38.130
<v Speaker 5>Good on you, David.

0:31:38.310 --> 0:31:40.690
<v Speaker 1>So let's get to the other stuff here today. Pauline

0:31:40.730 --> 0:31:43.410
<v Speaker 1>Hanson has basically told people, look, if you think your

0:31:43.430 --> 0:31:45.650
<v Speaker 1>school's too woke, time to pull them out of it. Why?

0:31:45.670 --> 0:31:45.740
<v Speaker 5>Why?

0:31:46.050 --> 0:31:49.230
<v Speaker 1>Because of the sort of rubbish where we know the

0:31:49.290 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>socialist teachers, by their own identity, who are running in

0:31:52.130 --> 0:31:55.740
<v Speaker 1>the Victorian election, let alone the inevitable woke rubbish that

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:59.220
<v Speaker 1>gets shoved down their throats. Lucy, no doubt when I

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.510
<v Speaker 1>read this, I thought, sing it, sister. Sing it, sister.

0:32:02.110 --> 0:32:04.110
<v Speaker 5>I'm a bit tired of having to sing it, aren't we?

0:32:04.170 --> 0:32:06.530
<v Speaker 5>Because at this point now, the fact that they've tried

0:32:06.570 --> 0:32:10.410
<v Speaker 5>to discredit what she is saying and claim that it's rubbish,

0:32:10.790 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 5>when we can see with our own eyes and when

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 5>you speak to parents, and I'm a parent of small

0:32:14.340 --> 0:32:17.060
<v Speaker 5>children in a primary school, which, thank the heavens above, actually,

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.219
<v Speaker 5>they're very sensible in how they teach my child. But

0:32:20.300 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 5>what I will say is I speak to very credible people,

0:32:22.740 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 5>one in fact who's a very popular and beloved TV host,

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.310
<v Speaker 5>who told me that her child came home one day

0:32:27.790 --> 0:32:30.469
<v Speaker 5>and said to her that he felt terrible because he

0:32:30.510 --> 0:32:33.330
<v Speaker 5>was white and that they were living on stolen land.

0:32:33.450 --> 0:32:36.110
<v Speaker 5>We speak to psychologists like Claire Rowe who talks about

0:32:36.170 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 5>climate alarmism amongst young children that's being presented to them.

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 5>Where are they learning all of these things if they're

0:32:41.340 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 5>not learning them at home? They're learning them at school,

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 5>this issue of gender politics as well. Pauline is right

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 5>to point to all of these things and you only

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.630
<v Speaker 5>have to reflect on the protests that we saw with

0:32:50.770 --> 0:32:53.620
<v Speaker 5>high school students as well as university students who took

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 5>to the streets calling for her death... and saying the

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 5>most awful and atrocious things. So she's right to say

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 5>that you should confront the principal. I didn't get a

0:33:02.900 --> 0:33:05.100
<v Speaker 5>sense of any violence being incited from her.

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:05.630
<v Speaker 1>Not at all.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:07.460
<v Speaker 5>She didn't say go in there and start bashing up

0:33:07.510 --> 0:33:10.330
<v Speaker 5>the teacher. She said confront the principal, which any good

0:33:10.490 --> 0:33:13.550
<v Speaker 5>parent who cares about their child and what they're being

0:33:13.590 --> 0:33:16.350
<v Speaker 5>taught in school would and should do.

0:33:16.490 --> 0:33:19.890
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, David, it's this thing, right, where parents...

0:33:20.010 --> 0:33:22.570
<v Speaker 1>quite correctly, are told by schools, you are involved in

0:33:22.590 --> 0:33:24.469
<v Speaker 1>the education of your child, right? You're not dropping them

0:33:24.530 --> 0:33:26.950
<v Speaker 1>off at the mechanics to get fixed up, right? You're

0:33:27.030 --> 0:33:31.190
<v Speaker 1>involved 24 hours a day, right? Well, equally, the parent

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.940
<v Speaker 1>has to have the ability to be able to interact

0:33:33.980 --> 0:33:36.380
<v Speaker 1>with a school and a school to listen when enough

0:33:36.420 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>of the parents come and say, hey, what's all this about?

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 9>Correct. You know, first of all, parenting is the goal

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 9>and the ultimate responsibility of the child is the parent.

0:33:47.750 --> 0:33:50.390
<v Speaker 9>You know, I've just finished a tour of the northwestern

0:33:50.510 --> 0:33:54.390
<v Speaker 9>section of Farrah, right from out to Wentworth and then

0:33:54.450 --> 0:33:57.450
<v Speaker 9>came back through Euston all the way up to Hay, Hilston,

0:33:57.630 --> 0:33:59.870
<v Speaker 9>all through that part of the world. And we met

0:33:59.950 --> 0:34:03.910
<v Speaker 9>with what we call the three Cs, constituency, council and commerce.

0:34:04.390 --> 0:34:05.950
<v Speaker 4>And in that commerce side, we had many of the

0:34:05.990 --> 0:34:07.020
<v Speaker 4>school teachers come along.

0:34:07.580 --> 0:34:09.460
<v Speaker 9>And one of the big complaints they had was this

0:34:09.739 --> 0:34:13.590
<v Speaker 9>curriculum that they're being forced to teach to now. And

0:34:13.610 --> 0:34:15.450
<v Speaker 9>I said, what's the challenge? And he said, look, the

0:34:15.469 --> 0:34:17.830
<v Speaker 9>challenge is the kids. They're pushing back on it. He said,

0:34:17.850 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 9>these kids are out in the paddock with calves, lambs,

0:34:21.540 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 9>they're with livestock. And what we're trying to teach them

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 9>in some areas, the kids are just pushing back, let

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 9>alone the parents. So we've got a real, real problem

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:30.740
<v Speaker 9>in the curriculum.

0:34:31.180 --> 0:34:34.410
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's that thing, you know, decided by unions, decided

0:34:34.710 --> 0:34:38.700
<v Speaker 1>by woke people. education, the people who educate the educators,

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:39.860
<v Speaker 1>and it all continues.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 5>Interestingly, union bosses were the ones coming out and saying

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 5>that these claims were unfounded.

0:34:44.700 --> 0:34:47.650
<v Speaker 1>Please, please, pull the other one. Please, jingle bells. David,

0:34:47.670 --> 0:34:50.570
<v Speaker 1>what about this Race Discrimination Commissioner? I mean, talk about

0:34:50.610 --> 0:34:54.610
<v Speaker 1>a long bow. Morons on the internet say racist stuff

0:34:54.870 --> 0:34:57.950
<v Speaker 1>about what's happening in Nepal. None of us accept that.

0:34:58.300 --> 0:35:02.219
<v Speaker 1>All Australians are actively looking for how we can take care. Oh,

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.420
<v Speaker 1>but the longbow has to go straight back through One Nation.

0:35:05.780 --> 0:35:08.860
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is funny on one side, but it

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>is frightening on another that they are willing to use

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>something as high stakes as this to go as low

0:35:15.540 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>as to make such a point.

0:35:17.469 --> 0:35:19.230
<v Speaker 9>Well, that's the first thing the Commissioner should do is

0:35:19.250 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 9>go and read his job description. You know, he's not

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:27.580
<v Speaker 9>in there to be a stooge for the disinfected people

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 9>who are promoting that type of rhetoric. You know, he's

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 9>got a very, very responsible job. And this is a

0:35:34.820 --> 0:35:37.500
<v Speaker 9>mile and a half away from where his job description sits.

0:35:38.010 --> 0:35:39.299
<v Speaker 4>So it's absolutely nonsense.

0:35:39.510 --> 0:35:43.110
<v Speaker 9>And it's absolute nonsense to be calling that across on

0:35:43.170 --> 0:35:47.089
<v Speaker 9>One Nation as well. You know, One Nation is interactively

0:35:47.130 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 9>involved right across our society and, yeah, One Nation calls

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 9>out things, it says things that people are too scared

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:55.940
<v Speaker 9>to say, but the reality of it is that it

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:57.819
<v Speaker 9>is not a racist party at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but also this thing, Lucy, where it's just... The

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 1>drumbeat of far right, far right, far right, far right.....

0:36:05.180 --> 0:36:08.730
<v Speaker 1>is about scandalising people from feeling they are free..... to

0:36:08.750 --> 0:36:13.330
<v Speaker 1>go whatever direction that they want, right? The rent-a-quote nature

0:36:13.390 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>of all of this..... is that a person who's in

0:36:15.900 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>one of those jobs... you would expect the time to

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.980
<v Speaker 1>hear from them is after they've done an investigation, when

0:36:22.020 --> 0:36:25.510
<v Speaker 1>they have a report and a fact-based conversation. The sort

0:36:25.550 --> 0:36:29.529
<v Speaker 1>of broad smear just to keep the clickbait going in

0:36:29.590 --> 0:36:33.190
<v Speaker 1>between begging for donations over the Turnbull Times, please.

0:36:34.030 --> 0:36:36.450
<v Speaker 5>There's two parts to this. One, he has to justify

0:36:36.510 --> 0:36:39.050
<v Speaker 5>his job because he's being paid what is in excess

0:36:39.070 --> 0:36:42.370
<v Speaker 5>of $ 400, 000 a year. So he's going to be looking

0:36:42.430 --> 0:36:45.390
<v Speaker 5>for trouble. The second part now is thanks for showing

0:36:45.430 --> 0:36:49.009
<v Speaker 5>us which political party you're affiliated with now, because this

0:36:49.070 --> 0:36:52.190
<v Speaker 5>just shows who he's aligned with. We've seen very similar

0:36:52.230 --> 0:36:56.109
<v Speaker 5>rhetoric throughout the past week, especially notwithstanding the comments made

0:36:56.170 --> 0:36:58.750
<v Speaker 5>by Michelle Rowland, the Attorney-General of the country, with respect

0:36:58.770 --> 0:37:02.270
<v Speaker 5>to Senator Hanson. And this kind of attempt to now

0:37:02.410 --> 0:37:05.740
<v Speaker 5>destroy these political parties through painting them as though they

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:09.660
<v Speaker 5>are dangerous, divisive, and toxic and a threat to democracy.

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 5>We saw all of this play out in the United

0:37:11.219 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 5>States with President Trump and now we're starting to see

0:37:13.300 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 5>increments of it play out here in Australia. It is very,

0:37:16.969 --> 0:37:20.629
<v Speaker 5>very reckless and irresponsible to try and do this. Call

0:37:20.690 --> 0:37:22.950
<v Speaker 5>out the idiots in society and we stand with all

0:37:22.969 --> 0:37:24.790
<v Speaker 5>of them. They are Australians and we should be showing

0:37:24.810 --> 0:37:28.390
<v Speaker 5>them compassion. But to suggest that these idiots and anyone

0:37:28.410 --> 0:37:30.589
<v Speaker 5>that is falling foul in this country is now being

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:34.220
<v Speaker 5>ascribed to the far right of politics or One Nation,

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.340
<v Speaker 5>that too is idiotic and irresponsible.

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.980
<v Speaker 1>But also, I mean, David, again, right, and again, let's

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 1>not go back into last week, but again, the immigration conversation,

0:37:42.580 --> 0:37:46.779
<v Speaker 1>it's different in regional Australia, right? The necessity of the workers, again,

0:37:46.860 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 1>part of what you've been travelling around and seeing in

0:37:50.860 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>your own electorate, right? Australians can know the great... They

0:37:55.700 --> 0:37:58.509
<v Speaker 1>know that the conversations that need to be had is

0:37:58.550 --> 0:38:01.910
<v Speaker 1>simply about the number... right, that is coming through and

0:38:01.950 --> 0:38:05.950
<v Speaker 1>about whether the infrastructure can take it. The idea that

0:38:05.989 --> 0:38:08.810
<v Speaker 1>the average Australian, including one in a small country town,

0:38:08.870 --> 0:38:11.190
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want somebody who doesn't look like who they went

0:38:11.230 --> 0:38:13.029
<v Speaker 1>to school with is garbage.

0:38:13.690 --> 0:38:15.350
<v Speaker 4>Absolute garbage. Absolute garbage.

0:38:15.370 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 9>Look, the data that I've got to live with, I mean,

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 9>I want to live with it. I want to understand

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 9>it intimately because my electorate is one of the biggest

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:31.140
<v Speaker 9>users of migrant labour. and it engaged in a powerful

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 9>amount of jobs that Australians don't want to do anyway.

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:36.819
<v Speaker 4>They're pretty tough jobs, you know, standing.

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 9>Six to seven hours behind 2,000 dairy cows on a carousel,

0:38:40.980 --> 0:38:45.500
<v Speaker 9>cupping on and cupping off and being covered in cow manure,

0:38:46.060 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 9>standing in an abattoir pumping fetal blood out of a calf,

0:38:49.430 --> 0:38:52.870
<v Speaker 9>a dead calf, in the gut room, working in a

0:38:52.910 --> 0:38:57.089
<v Speaker 9>chicken abattoir. I mean, if we didn't have migrant labour...

0:38:57.260 --> 0:39:00.820
<v Speaker 9>We wouldn't have those industries. And they're so, so important

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 9>to us. Standing in Griffith yesterday, you know, the cold

0:39:04.780 --> 0:39:06.820
<v Speaker 9>morning in Griffith, who was harvesting all the oranges and

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:07.420
<v Speaker 9>the mandarins?

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 4>It was migrant labour. The Australians weren't out there doing

0:39:10.060 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 4>that work.

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. All right, New South Wales is going to

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.540
<v Speaker 1>move further down the pill-testing route. Some 15 music festivals

0:39:16.580 --> 0:39:18.450
<v Speaker 1>they will... They will do what's been happening in the

0:39:18.510 --> 0:39:21.490
<v Speaker 1>ACT for some time. Also worth noting, New South Wales

0:39:21.550 --> 0:39:26.350
<v Speaker 1>moved the emphasis from possession, the end user, their focus

0:39:26.469 --> 0:39:30.140
<v Speaker 1>in on who sells and the cartels. Lucy, the Health

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Minister in New South Wales was saying, look, someone's going

0:39:32.780 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>to say I've gone too far, someone says I'm not

0:39:34.300 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>going far enough. You say?

0:39:35.989 --> 0:39:39.950
<v Speaker 5>I say this is absolutely ridiculous. What message is this sending?

0:39:40.010 --> 0:39:42.390
<v Speaker 5>Drugs are illegal. I don't even know why we're having

0:39:42.430 --> 0:39:45.370
<v Speaker 5>this conversation and why we're acting in this permissive way

0:39:45.430 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 5>where we're suggesting to young kids, who potentially may be

0:39:48.300 --> 0:39:51.320
<v Speaker 5>using these drugs for the first time and then become hooked,

0:39:51.820 --> 0:39:53.940
<v Speaker 5>what message are we sending to them? And you referenced

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 5>the ACT, but Victoria too have gone down this path.

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.590
<v Speaker 5>I note that Chris Minns made the comment where he

0:39:58.620 --> 0:40:02.510
<v Speaker 5>said that this wouldn't be extended to, say, community drug checking,

0:40:02.550 --> 0:40:06.390
<v Speaker 5>where staff are actually there on site testing drugs for

0:40:06.430 --> 0:40:09.710
<v Speaker 5>these members within the community and then providing, and I quote,

0:40:09.969 --> 0:40:11.710
<v Speaker 5>non-judgmental health advice.

0:40:12.180 --> 0:40:13.620
<v Speaker 1>Actually, how about a bit of judgment?

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 5>Maybe society could do with a bit of judgment because,

0:40:16.420 --> 0:40:19.460
<v Speaker 5>as I said, drug taking is illegal and instead of

0:40:19.580 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 5>going and providing these pill testing services, why don't we

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:26.239
<v Speaker 5>actually put resources and the police to arresting the people

0:40:26.530 --> 0:40:29.069
<v Speaker 5>that are taking these drugs at these music festivals and

0:40:29.110 --> 0:40:30.750
<v Speaker 5>send a strong message to them that we have a

0:40:30.790 --> 0:40:32.010
<v Speaker 5>zero tolerance policy?

0:40:32.210 --> 0:40:34.370
<v Speaker 1>I love when you fire up and when you lock in. Oh,

0:40:34.390 --> 0:40:36.710
<v Speaker 1>she locked in just then. She locked in and I

0:40:36.750 --> 0:40:39.110
<v Speaker 1>loved it. Thank you, Lucy. Thank you, David. I'll see

0:40:39.130 --> 0:40:41.299
<v Speaker 1>you all again very, very soon. All right, quick break.

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of locked in, the great Megyn Kelly. The story

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:49.009
<v Speaker 1>that is captivating millions around the world. Lots have an opinion.

0:40:49.110 --> 0:40:51.550
<v Speaker 1>What's Megyn's? What's the story? Well, you'll find out in

0:40:51.590 --> 0:40:58.469
<v Speaker 1>a moment. It is that time of the night to

0:40:58.489 --> 0:40:59.930
<v Speaker 1>talk to our favourite person in the world, the one,

0:40:59.969 --> 0:41:02.029
<v Speaker 1>the only, the wonderful Megan Kelly. Megan, lovely to see you.

0:41:02.670 --> 0:41:03.430
<v Speaker 10>Great to be with you.

0:41:04.090 --> 0:41:06.660
<v Speaker 1>Now, I'm going to say I am late to this story,

0:41:06.820 --> 0:41:10.259
<v Speaker 1>but I cannot believe how many people are into the

0:41:10.300 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>story of the woman accused of murdering her children in Massachusetts. Now,

0:41:15.140 --> 0:41:17.220
<v Speaker 1>there's not really a question about whether she was involved

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.860
<v Speaker 1>in their death, but she claims that a voice as

0:41:19.910 --> 0:41:22.780
<v Speaker 1>a result of postpartum depression made her do it.

0:41:24.150 --> 0:41:24.210
<v Speaker 4>Mm.

0:41:24.780 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot.

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.100
<v Speaker 10>It brings up a lot for a lot of people.

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:28.980
<v Speaker 10>And I get it. I mean, a lot of women

0:41:29.100 --> 0:41:33.009
<v Speaker 10>feel like women's health care sucks. And even though I'm

0:41:33.050 --> 0:41:36.330
<v Speaker 10>not on the feminist brigade, I will say, you know,

0:41:36.790 --> 0:41:40.589
<v Speaker 10>it is frustrating as a woman to realize there are

0:41:40.630 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 10>so many things that happen with women's bodies that haven't

0:41:44.219 --> 0:41:47.899
<v Speaker 10>been examined or solved for at all. When you know

0:41:47.940 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 10>if they happen to men, they'd be solved in two minutes.

0:41:50.739 --> 0:41:52.740
<v Speaker 10>So you do get kind of frustrated with the medical

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 10>system as a woman in general. And this case is

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.250
<v Speaker 10>bringing up a lot of it because postpartum depression is

0:41:59.270 --> 0:42:02.900
<v Speaker 10>definitely on the list. Like the medical community doesn't seem

0:42:03.180 --> 0:42:05.879
<v Speaker 10>to be all that familiar with this dynamic. And yet

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 10>lots of moms apparently have had this problem. Thank God

0:42:10.219 --> 0:42:12.460
<v Speaker 10>I'm not on that list, but I know people who

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.180
<v Speaker 10>have had it. And I think a lot of women

0:42:14.219 --> 0:42:18.340
<v Speaker 10>are feeling like don't dismiss this as some made up thing.

0:42:18.860 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 10>It is an actual problem for women. And if the

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.500
<v Speaker 10>medical community would take us more seriously about our issues,

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 10>We wouldn't be looking at a trial here because this

0:42:27.260 --> 0:42:32.210
<v Speaker 10>woman would have gotten help prior to doing this dastardly deed.

0:42:32.850 --> 0:42:35.569
<v Speaker 10>So it's bringing up personal stories for people. Then there

0:42:35.590 --> 0:42:38.350
<v Speaker 10>are other people who can't stand what SSRIs do to

0:42:38.390 --> 0:42:41.290
<v Speaker 10>you and think they're overprescribed and that the medical community

0:42:41.310 --> 0:42:43.470
<v Speaker 10>just uses them as a crutch and doesn't bother actually

0:42:43.510 --> 0:42:47.589
<v Speaker 10>providing therapy anymore or you know, it won't even talk

0:42:47.610 --> 0:42:51.410
<v Speaker 10>to you about your problems or like prescribe exercise and

0:42:51.430 --> 0:42:54.219
<v Speaker 10>more movement and better eating and less drinking as opposed

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 10>to just like, here's another drug to medicate your way

0:42:56.980 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 10>through life. So like that, there's that crowd that is

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.100
<v Speaker 10>mad at the medical community, which definitely dropped the ball here.

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.940
<v Speaker 10>I mean, they just didn't take good care of this woman. Um,

0:43:06.100 --> 0:43:08.780
<v Speaker 10>and then there are more hardcore law and order types

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:13.150
<v Speaker 10>where is where I am. Um, Which are, you know,

0:43:13.230 --> 0:43:15.590
<v Speaker 10>looking at this saying, yeah, obviously you have to be

0:43:15.610 --> 0:43:17.820
<v Speaker 10>insane to kill your kids, but there's a difference between

0:43:17.900 --> 0:43:21.420
<v Speaker 10>medically insane and legally insane. And this woman's not legally insane.

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 10>To be legally insane, you have to not know the

0:43:24.020 --> 0:43:28.589
<v Speaker 10>difference between right and wrong. And this woman did. And

0:43:28.670 --> 0:43:30.850
<v Speaker 10>the reason we know she did is because she got

0:43:30.870 --> 0:43:34.250
<v Speaker 10>the husband out of the house. She did very sequential

0:43:34.390 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 10>ordered planning of the children's murders, killings. She made sure

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 10>the husband was going to be out for a good

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.270
<v Speaker 10>amount of time. When he called in the middle of it,

0:43:42.340 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 10>she didn't say, I'm killing the kids. She didn't know

0:43:45.980 --> 0:43:46.860
<v Speaker 10>that it was wrong.

0:43:47.660 --> 0:43:48.100
<v Speaker 1>She knew.

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:49.940
<v Speaker 10>That's why she hid it. That's why she didn't say

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 10>anything to him. That's why she needed to remove him

0:43:52.100 --> 0:43:54.819
<v Speaker 10>from the house. All of that shows somebody who did

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.500
<v Speaker 10>know right from wrong. She just wanted to get it done.

0:43:58.900 --> 0:44:01.860
<v Speaker 10>I'm not saying that she would have killed the children

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:06.610
<v Speaker 10>if she did not have the postpartum depression and the

0:44:06.730 --> 0:44:09.529
<v Speaker 10>downward cycle she went on. I agree she would not

0:44:09.550 --> 0:44:12.930
<v Speaker 10>have killed her children without that. But that's not an excuse.

0:44:13.300 --> 0:44:14.940
<v Speaker 10>It's an explanation, but it's not an excuse.

0:44:15.219 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>And as always, with a big American trial, there's not

0:44:17.219 --> 0:44:20.279
<v Speaker 1>just lots of media, but there are literally dozens and

0:44:20.300 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>dozens of protesters on the mother's behalf that turn up,

0:44:24.420 --> 0:44:27.380
<v Speaker 1>that cheer her as she gets driven into the court.

0:44:27.739 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>And no doubt the jury has to hear that noise

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>from outside.

0:44:32.370 --> 0:44:34.770
<v Speaker 10>Well, not only that, but the jury's not sequestered. So

0:44:34.830 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 10>they go home every night to they're not supposed to

0:44:37.300 --> 0:44:40.379
<v Speaker 10>consume media about the case. But I mean, I don't

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.140
<v Speaker 10>know what it's like in Australia right now, but there's

0:44:42.180 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 10>a news drought in America right now. This Lindsay Clancy

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 10>trial is the dominant story in the news. It would

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.299
<v Speaker 10>be very hard not to catch wind of it if

0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:56.150
<v Speaker 10>you were a juror on the case. So, you know,

0:44:56.989 --> 0:44:58.650
<v Speaker 10>I don't know how much they've been taking in, but

0:44:58.910 --> 0:45:00.630
<v Speaker 10>they can probably hear the cheers when they show up

0:45:00.650 --> 0:45:02.029
<v Speaker 10>at the courthouse in the morning. They can probably see

0:45:02.050 --> 0:45:06.229
<v Speaker 10>all the pink shirt brigade that's out there protesting for

0:45:06.330 --> 0:45:10.110
<v Speaker 10>Lindsay Clancy. I think this woman was depressed. She didn't

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 10>like being a mother. She didn't really like her children.

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 10>She did before.

0:45:13.980 --> 0:45:15.020
<v Speaker 6>I agree.

0:45:15.140 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 10>I'm not saying like she was a bad person. She

0:45:17.580 --> 0:45:21.060
<v Speaker 10>was an evil person. but her kids were driving her nuts.

0:45:21.380 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 10>She wasn't sleeping well. They were annoying her. She didn't

0:45:24.460 --> 0:45:26.299
<v Speaker 10>want to take care of them. I'm sorry, but she

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 10>has to pay. Someone has to pay for this. And

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.210
<v Speaker 10>unless you can show me she truly had no idea

0:45:31.230 --> 0:45:33.610
<v Speaker 10>what she was doing, it has to be her. I

0:45:33.650 --> 0:45:35.350
<v Speaker 10>don't believe she had no idea what she was doing.

0:45:36.110 --> 0:45:40.230
<v Speaker 10>She appears to have even misled about when she started

0:45:40.290 --> 0:45:43.379
<v Speaker 10>hearing the alleged voice First, she said she didn't hear

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 10>it until after the husband had left and she was

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:51.859
<v Speaker 10>getting the chicken nuggets out of the fridge to make

0:45:51.900 --> 0:45:54.940
<v Speaker 10>them for her son. Well, the husband left and the

0:45:54.980 --> 0:45:57.110
<v Speaker 10>son was already eating the chicken nuggets.

0:45:57.570 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>So when was it?

0:45:58.750 --> 0:46:02.969
<v Speaker 10>Like her story's not consistent with exactly when the alleged voice, again,

0:46:03.030 --> 0:46:06.890
<v Speaker 10>never heard before or since came into her life. And

0:46:06.910 --> 0:46:10.569
<v Speaker 10>there's been medical testimony saying if that really happened, And

0:46:10.630 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 10>she just heard that voice for those 18 minutes of

0:46:12.500 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 10>the murders. It's the first time any of us has

0:46:14.620 --> 0:46:17.020
<v Speaker 10>ever heard of that. Like that, that would be a

0:46:17.060 --> 0:46:22.700
<v Speaker 10>first in medical murder history. And the odds of that,

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:24.790
<v Speaker 10>that this happened to just this woman are very slim.

0:46:25.489 --> 0:46:26.110
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it.

0:46:26.630 --> 0:46:30.930
<v Speaker 10>Now I, I have plenty of disdain and contempt for

0:46:30.950 --> 0:46:34.250
<v Speaker 10>the people who are around Lindsay Clancy, but you know,

0:46:35.270 --> 0:46:38.009
<v Speaker 10>they didn't murder the children. You know, I mean, you

0:46:38.050 --> 0:46:40.810
<v Speaker 10>tell me, and your audience is going to have a

0:46:40.830 --> 0:46:43.250
<v Speaker 10>strong reaction to this, but if your spouse, as much

0:46:43.310 --> 0:46:46.380
<v Speaker 10>as you love your spouse, if your spouse, male or female,

0:46:46.410 --> 0:46:50.100
<v Speaker 10>said to you, I'm having serious thoughts of hurting myself

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:55.260
<v Speaker 10>and our kids, it would be a hard no before

0:46:55.300 --> 0:46:59.740
<v Speaker 10>they could spend any alone time with the children until

0:46:59.780 --> 0:47:02.990
<v Speaker 10>they were absolutely indisputably well again.

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:04.859
<v Speaker 4>Bloody oath.

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Can you believe the jury has not been able to

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:08.470
<v Speaker 1>reach a verdict? What does that mean? We'll all find

0:47:08.510 --> 0:47:11.489
<v Speaker 1>out tomorrow morning with Peter Stefanovic in first edition, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as Laura Jays, if that news breaks during the

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<v Speaker 1>day here on News 24.

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<v Speaker 4>Quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>Back with more. I'm pleased to say it's catching on,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is the OG. This is the show that

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<v Speaker 1>shows you while you were working the stupidity of politicians

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. I'll give it to you each and

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<v Speaker 1>every night. All right, the original and still the best

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to showing you the stupidity of politicians here.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Murray live. While you were working our nightly segment

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<v Speaker 1>where we show you the idiocy of the politicians on

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<v Speaker 1>social media and you pay not just for them to

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<v Speaker 1>work but for the staff to make garbage like this

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<v Speaker 1>one from a Tasmanian Labor senator tomorrow's flag day. His interpretation?

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<v Speaker 6>If you'd like to come in on the 3rd of September,

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<v Speaker 6>you're more than welcome to grab a Australian Aboriginal flag.

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<v Speaker 1>Torres Strait Islander flag or Old Trusty. OK, the flag

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<v Speaker 1>day is for Old Trusty. As for another Labor MP,

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<v Speaker 1>this one's Susan Templeton. Templeman, sorry. What's her effort tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and by the way, Dusty, thank you to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who stepped in and donated to little Dusty, who's, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>doing his work for Little Wings, the service that helps

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<v Speaker 1>paediatrician care in the bush. He's now up to $ 216, 000.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep giving, guys. Links are on the socials.