1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: On scors Ostrodio. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: This is the Weader Panalty Show. 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panety Show. Coming 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 3: up tonight. Economists warned that the Albinzy government's fuel security 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: plan will sink the country further into debt. The panel 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: will be here to cover the day's top headlines. Labor 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: finally conceivees that the NDIS is out of control. Drew Pavlou, 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: who helped expose NDIS fraud, joins me to discuss that 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: Kosher Gator will have the latest from the US, including 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's threat to destroy the Iranian regime, and later 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: in the program, the always mischievous Alex Stein will share 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: the fun he had at a pro trans rally over 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: the weekend. Plus will have Lefties Losing It, which tonight 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: includes a trip to Canada. 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 4: It's hired as a racialized and transgender delegate to sometimes 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 4: use this card and speak up. 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: Speak to somebody in front of me in. 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 4: Line and ask hey, this pretains to multiple intersecting parts 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: of my lived experience. 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: I'd like to speak but first, Economists of warning that 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: Labour's National Fuel Security Plan will not only sink the 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 3: budget into further deficit, but it may also be inflationary. 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: The Australian newspaper reports that some labor MP's were perplexed 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: by the Prime Minister's decision to slash the fuel excise. Meanwhile, 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: Shadow Energy Minister Dan ten told Sky News here's worried 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: the plan could be counterproductive and create a worse cost 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: of living crisis. 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 5: The Prime Minister Sadley's had to be drag kicking and 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 5: screaming to get through this decision. 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 6: To course, we welcome it. 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 5: But it'll be inflation unless there's offsets, and we offered 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 5: offsets to the government so it wouldn't be inflationary. And 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: yet the government seems to have just rushed this out 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 5: without offsets. And the real risk now is that we're 35 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 5: going to see inflation of five six percent following the 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 5: budget and that will put even more pressure on family 37 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 5: and house sold. 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Institute of Public Affairs Research fellow 39 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: Colleen Harken and Sky News contributor Prough McSween Colleen is 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: the albity is a government doing enough to respond to 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: this crisis? 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 7: The short answer to that is no. I mean this 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 7: sort of excise offer. 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 6: Is obviously a bit of a sugar hit. It will 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 6: be popular. 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 7: People will be more than happy to take it and 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 7: take what it's on the table. But there's no clear 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 7: long term strategy to this. There is no sort of 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 7: vision of what actually are we going to do. This 50 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 7: is not going to be solved in the next few days. 51 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 7: There's been two or three weeks notice of stress, distress 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 7: and supply chain problems, and yet the National Cabinet only 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 7: met yesterday. So you know, this has been known that 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 7: this was coming for a couple of weeks. People have 55 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 7: been warning about, you know, empty fuel tanks. It's not 56 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 7: like we didn't know that this was coming. And it's 57 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 7: only twenty four hours ago that they've even started to 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 7: sit down and talk about what to do and the 59 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 7: what to do. Who has got problems as well? You 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 7: know that you've got problems with people on your own 61 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 7: team acqueering whether it's the right decision. 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: Well yes, when you've got MP's perplexed prow by the 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: decisions you're announcing, it suggests that they're just making policy 64 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: on the run. 65 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 8: Here. 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 9: Well, you know, this is a drowning man. Sadly, this 67 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 9: Prime minister has no plan. He has an energy minister 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 9: that lies to us I mean, you couldn't believe a 69 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 9: word coming out of Bowen's mouth. And it's all policy 70 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 9: on the run, driven by the polls, and they have 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 9: no idea what to do. They're like they're drowning, and 72 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 9: so here we have a situation where they're politically making 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 9: a nice sugar hitters Collins. But in the end, the 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 9: whole idea is to offset it if we're worried about inflation, 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 9: which of course we all need to be an r they, 76 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 9: you know, the opposition, I think had a good idea 77 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 9: to stop the you know, EV subsidy and the green 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 9: hydrogen and also their home battery business. 79 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 10: You know. 80 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 9: I mean, there are plenty of ways where the government's 81 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 9: largest to just go down the renewable track and preposter 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 9: that could actually offset this sugar hit. But basically we 83 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 9: all know that the government is all at sea. They 84 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 9: have no idea how to handle this crisis. Meanwhile, we're 85 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 9: going to run out and we'll get to the stage 86 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 9: where we will be rationing. 87 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: Interesting that you mentioned rationing prove because this isn't the 88 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: first time Australians have had the threat of fuel rationing 89 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: imposed on them. They are on sun reports today, the 90 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 3: threat of fuel rationing has been around from World War 91 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: II to the Iranian Revolution in nineteen seventy nine. The 92 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: government has imposed restrictions before, but I've got to say, 93 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: I don't know how receptive Australians are going to be 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: to further restrictions after everything we endured during COVID. How 95 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: do you see a colleen? Do you think we will 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: accept it? 97 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 7: We may not have a choice. I think that's the 98 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 7: first issue. 99 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 6: I don't think people will be very happy about it 100 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 6: at all. 101 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 7: But there may not be a choice, and it might 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 7: have to be alternate days or something like that, because 103 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 7: we are going to have We do have a supply problem. 104 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 7: I don't care what the government keeps pretending that it's 105 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 7: a panic buying problem. There is a significant issue that's 106 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 7: still not being addressed. 107 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 6: I think the average Australian is looking. 108 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 7: At this and going, how did we let ourselves become 109 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 7: a nation that is so vulnerable when we have so 110 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 7: many natural resources. We used to have the cheapest energy 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 7: supply were you know, we're an abundance of opportunity and 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 7: we've squandered it all and we've shut it all down. 113 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 7: I think that's what will make people really angry that 114 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 7: we've come to this place where we are rationing our fuel. 115 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: I fear, given what we saw during COVID, that Australians 116 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: are going to be all too ready to accept any 117 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 3: sort of Australians, no matter how reasonable or unreasonable, because 118 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: we saw during COVID the enthusiasm with which people embrace 119 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: restrictions and even the most irrational restrictions. We had bands 120 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: on fishing and playing golf and playground bands and acquiesce. 121 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: And I think we've got that sort of population. Sadly, 122 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: one man who is not ready to accept rationing lockdowns 123 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: or any other COVID style restrictions is Sushi Mango comic 124 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: Carlos Salentini. 125 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: Why don't we just drill for our own fuel we've got? 126 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: Why do we have to ask other countries? 127 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: Why don't we just drill for our own What a 128 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: big an Australia and start drilling? 129 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 11: Why? 130 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: I ask you everyone, We've got here, it's just in 131 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: the ground. Dig it, start digging, dig it out. 132 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 12: Well. 133 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: The message there is drill, baby, drill, prow It's what 134 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: I've been saying for years now, and it's a message 135 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 3: that's increasingly resonating with the public. What do you think 136 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: do you think this is going to see a change 137 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: of course for this country and the energy policies that 138 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: have we're embraced. 139 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 9: I hope so. I mean, I think that anthropologists will 140 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 9: look back at this period in our life and think 141 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 9: this is zombie net zero thinking of lemmings. You know, 142 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 9: it was the fashion trend of the day where everybody 143 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 9: had to demonize fossil fuels and politicians driven by I 144 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 9: guess these generation alphabets who were so socially aware and 145 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 9: had no responsibility, all care, no responsibility, have driven this 146 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 9: infatuation and this ridiculous situation where our energy supplies are demonized. 147 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 9: So let's hope that there's some you know, what's going 148 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 9: to happen now. I think we're going to go through 149 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 9: a lot more pain. Sadly, I think there will be 150 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 9: limited food from our agricultural sector. I think that, you know, 151 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 9: people are going to do it so tough that they 152 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 9: may have a wake up call. And it's about time 153 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 9: that we all understood that he was right. You know, 154 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 9: our a comedian was right. We need to start drilling 155 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 9: like crazy. 156 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 13: Now. 157 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: The RBA has announced today that surcharges on credit card 158 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: and debit cards will be banned from October. This ban 159 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: is expected to save Australians around one point six billion 160 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: dollars a year in fees. 161 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 8: Colleen, this is a big development. 162 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: The RBA will also reduce the cap on credit card 163 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: interchange fees that's what's paid by merchants to the banks. 164 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 8: That's going to be reduced. 165 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: From zero point eight percent to zero point three percent. 166 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 8: Are you a fan of these changes? 167 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 7: Actually, I'm not really because it obscures the cost of things, 168 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 7: and so at the moment you can actually see what 169 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 7: the surcharge is. When this is all piled in together, 170 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 7: you won't have that transparency. It will also mean that 171 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 7: people who are using cash are paying for those who 172 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 7: are using credit cards, because it will all be included 173 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 7: in the cost of the item. And so if I'm 174 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 7: using cash, I'm still paying for that surcharge that's being 175 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 7: built in, and I would encourage people to use cash 176 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 7: whenever they can. So, you know, I'm not really a 177 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 7: fan of it because I think it's absolutely it's obscuring 178 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 7: transparency and transparency is always a good thing. 179 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: Pro Yeah, we think we're going to be saving collectively 180 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: one point six billion dollars. 181 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 8: But if the consumer is just going to be ending. 182 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: Up paying that through higher prices, then where is the 183 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: saving coming in. And Colleen makes an excellent point about 184 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: if you are paying cash, then you're subsidizing those who 185 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: are opt for credit. 186 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 9: That's right, and you know, it's absolutely right that the 187 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 9: business they're in business to make money, they're going to 188 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 9: pass that cost on in the price of everything we buy. 189 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 9: So it is ludicrous. Again, it's a scam. You know, 190 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 9: whether it's the irba's feeling really, you know, so anxious 191 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 9: that they're going to be having to do another few 192 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 9: interest rate rises, maybe they've decided to chuck us a 193 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 9: few sort of lollies and hope that we don't understand 194 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 9: that we'll be paying it at the you know, the 195 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 9: cashier ridiculous. 196 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: That said, yeah, it could be just a little bit 197 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: of a sugar hit to distract us. 198 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 8: From what the end result's going to look like. 199 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: Now, the hits keep coming for ARN as news comes 200 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 3: through this morning that Jackie Oh She's joining Kyl Sandalans 201 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 3: in taking her employer to court after their two hundred 202 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: million dollar contract contract was torn up. Jackie Anderson is 203 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: seeking more than eighty two million dollars in compensation. Now, 204 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: Jackie O claims she was unfairly dismissed after an Hones 205 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: spat with co host Kyl sandalans Prou Not a lawyer, 206 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 3: but she looks. 207 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 8: To have an excellent case. 208 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: To me, this all looks very opportunistic by ar and management. 209 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: Those two have a history decades long of having ones, spats, 210 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: having robust discussions and fights. To suddenly decide that's misconduct 211 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: deserving of a sacking to me seems incredible me too. 212 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 9: You know, I don't think they have a very good 213 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 9: case at all. The bad thing is that they, you know, 214 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 9: were they succumb to the demands of these two, and 215 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 9: now they realize that they've paid way over the odds. 216 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 9: They even had invoked on their license that a censor 217 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 9: had to be in the channel with them listening to 218 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 9: the show. So isn't it on the sensor and on arn? 219 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 12: You know? 220 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 9: So if there was behavior that was objectionable, then I 221 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 9: just don't see how they're going to win this case. 222 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 9: And you know, just shows you how stupid they were 223 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 9: signing contracts like that with these two. 224 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: Colleen, they knew what they were getting though, when they 225 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: did this deal, and they only did this still a 226 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: couple of years ago. So we're two years into a 227 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: ten year deal one hundred million dollars each for Kyle 228 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: Sandlands and Jackie Oh, and two years in they've decided 229 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: the very content that they used to promote to highlight 230 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 3: this program is now suddenly so offensive that it deserves termination. 231 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, and look, I'm pleased to say I've never listened 232 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 7: to them, but I have read a lot about, you know, 233 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 7: what they do and what they say, and they've made 234 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 7: a you know, they've made a brand out of being 235 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 7: offensive and objectionable and ridiculing people and being mean and nasty. 236 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 6: That's been my understanding that. 237 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: Kyle Schick Jackie was the nice one, so that they 238 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: had that balance. I've got to say, I haven't heard 239 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: a great deal e, but I've heard segments of the program. 240 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 3: And it's interesting because in Melbourne they have struggled to 241 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: find an audience, but in Sydney last ratings results, they 242 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: were the most popular breakfast program on FM. 243 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 8: Again. 244 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 7: But if you've done that for a number of years 245 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 7: and you've just resigned a contract for one hundred million dollars, 246 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 7: I'm clearly in the wrong job, by the way. But 247 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 7: if you signed a contract for that kind of money 248 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 7: and you've been doing the job with the same partner 249 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 7: for what is it twenty years or something, you know, 250 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 7: you know what you're getting yourself in for. So I mean, 251 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 7: I think that you've got a contract right. So legally, 252 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 7: I'm sure that her case sounds pretty sound, But from 253 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 7: an integrity point of view, I'm not quite sure why 254 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 7: she resigned. 255 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 8: Well, I would have received well, I would talk one 256 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 8: hundred mils. I want to think about it. 257 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: And you know what, they had a fantastic on air chemistry. 258 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: They changed radio stations and the station they left pretty 259 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: much lost all the advertisers. So they've got proven commercial 260 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: history there. Now let's go to the UK, where former 261 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: Labor Prime Minister Tony Blair has come out and said 262 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: what I've been saying. 263 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 8: For over a decade. 264 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: He has said that the left's unholy alliance with Islamists 265 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: must end. Writing in the Free Press blog, Tony Blair wrote, 266 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: the problem is that, under pressure. 267 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 8: From party activists and parts of the. 268 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: Muslim community, many progressive politicians who do sincerely reject anti 269 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: Semitism are not making these arguments and failing to take 270 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: head on this literally unholy alliance between parts of the 271 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: left and Islamists in our own societies whose ideology leads 272 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: inexlibrity to anti Semitism. 273 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 8: Colleen, as I said, I've been. 274 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: Writing about this for so long, and anti Semitism is 275 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: not the only consequence of this unholy alliance. There are 276 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: so many other things that are happening in Western societies. 277 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: What do you make of Tony Blair, of all people 278 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: now making that argument. 279 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 7: Well, in some ways it's not surprising because we often 280 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 7: find that people when they're in politics have a certain 281 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 7: view and then a few years later, when they're out 282 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 7: of it, they change their tune. 283 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 6: That's not an uncommon thing. 284 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 7: So I never know whether to be pleased or disappointed 285 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 7: when they do that. And his position changed quite a 286 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 7: lot after seven to seven, you know, those bombs in 287 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 7: London heat. So whether it's a position that is taken 288 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 7: in hindsight or whether it's a new insight, I don't know. 289 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 7: But it's welcome, you know. I think we have to 290 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 7: have the same hard conversations here about you know, how 291 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 7: our country is running, who's actually standing up and speaking 292 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 7: against these things? How are we actually going to get 293 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 7: our country back together on track as well as it 294 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 7: could be. So, you know, I'm not surprised when a 295 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 7: politician changes their tune after they're out of government. 296 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 8: Well, I think it carries a lot less weight. 297 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: It's all well and good to be brave after the event, 298 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: after the event, but when he had the power. It's 299 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: been pointed that on social media and elsewhere, well, he 300 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: was a part of the left unholy alliance with Islamist 301 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: Jonathan Wong is amongst those pointing out that Tony Blair 302 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: founded the first Muslim primary school that was publicly funded, 303 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: he gave a million pounds to Islamic studies and immam 304 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: training at universities in two thousand and seven, and notes 305 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: the Tony Blair Faith Foundation had advisors with links to 306 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood. Ladies, we've run out of time, pro mixween, Colleen, 307 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time, pleasure. Health Minister 308 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: Mark Butler has revealed that the Albanesi government is considering 309 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: reducing the number of people eligible for the NDIS. Speaking 310 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: at an event on Monday night, Mark Butler said, our 311 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: research is showing Australians cherish the NDIS. They're proud of it, 312 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: but they think it's gotten way out of control and 313 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: they're determined that their governments getted back on track. 314 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 8: You can have. 315 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: Fewer people on the scheme, you can have relatively the 316 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: same number of people on the scheme with low cost growth. 317 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 8: And I think our job now. 318 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: Is to work through all those different permutations and assess 319 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: the pros and cons of each of them. Joining me 320 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: now to discuss this further is one man who helped 321 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: expose the corruption in the NDIS, activist and commentator Drew Pavlou. 322 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: Drew is Labor finally taking this issue seriously. The scale 323 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: of the waste is astonishing. 324 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 14: Thank you reader for having me on. Honestly, they are 325 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 14: not taking it seriously enough. They are talking about restricting 326 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 14: growth in the NDI is spending to about five percent 327 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 14: per ATAM. That is just simply not enough. We're talking 328 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 14: about this program on track. This program is on track 329 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 14: to basically get up to one hundred billion dollars a 330 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 14: year annual spending. Now, if you just restricted the scheme 331 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 14: to severely disabled people and made a directly government run 332 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 14: program like Medicare, if you just kicked off all the shunty, 333 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 14: the shonky sort of weird private providers who are abusing people. 334 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 14: Make it direct government program like medicare. You could save 335 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 14: twenty five billion dollars a year now over thirty years, 336 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 14: that's seven hundred and fifty billion dollars raader. 337 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: We could literally build high speed rail down the. 338 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 14: Entire eastern seaboard of Australia, you know, one and one 339 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 14: point five hours city to Melbourne, twenty minutes Brisbane, the 340 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 14: Gold Coast. 341 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: Three hundred billion dollars you could build. 342 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 14: You could build high speed rail down the entire east 343 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 14: coast of Australia. 344 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: You could build thirty nuclear reactors. 345 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 14: If you use South Korean designs, you can build build 346 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 14: them for about eight billion dollars a reactor. That's about 347 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 14: you know, two hundred fifty three hundred million dollars in total. 348 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 14: We could completely insulate ourselves from future global energy shocks. 349 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 14: We could build you know, one hundred and fifty metro 350 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 14: stations across all our major cities, like underground metros, like 351 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 14: like like London, New York, like Paris. We could make 352 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 14: our cities the greatest in the world. We could do 353 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 14: all of this if we just simply you know, restricted 354 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 14: the scheme to severely disabled people. Make it a government 355 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 14: run program like medicare. I mean, why are we doing 356 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 14: this to ourselves twenty five billion dollars a year. If 357 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 14: we save twenty five billion dollars a year, we could 358 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 14: do all these things, you know, build nuclear reactors to 359 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 14: make ourselves completely energy rebuild completely. We could revitalize manufacturing 360 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 14: completely in this country. You could lower the wholesale energy 361 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 14: price by seventy percent, revitalized manufacturing in this country. Everything 362 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 14: would pay for itself. You could do all these things 363 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 14: for the price of the NDAs. All the fraud in 364 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 14: the scheme, remove the fraud. Making a government run program 365 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 14: like that. You could just completely revitalize the country. 366 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: Put me in. 367 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 14: I've got the plans I can. We can save Australia. 368 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 3: Vote one, Drew Pavlou. That sounds like a campaign pitch there, Drew. 369 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 8: We have seen. 370 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: Stories in recent weeks that beggar belief, including one where 371 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: a man convicted of rape and sexual assault was placed 372 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 3: in NDIS funded secure accommodation in a regional Victorian town, 373 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 3: granted a one point four million dollar support package. And 374 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: this at a time Drew, where we've got children with 375 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 3: severe issues not granted funding, including a little child that 376 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: you highlighted on your social media. These sorts of cases 377 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: are not in isolation. They are just cases like this 378 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: that we hear about daily. Is it going to be 379 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: sorted or has it got so out of control that 380 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 3: it's going to be years before we get on top 381 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: of this waste. 382 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 14: I think we just need to restart the NDIS again 383 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 14: as a government run model, like just like Medicare. 384 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: It can be just like Medicare. 385 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 14: It shouldn't have been designed, it shouldn't have been designed 386 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 14: as a private market system. You're talking about the most 387 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 14: severely disabled people in Australia being asked to sort of 388 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 14: choose choose between providers in a private market setting. I 389 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 14: mean Andrew Hasty has said very very smartly that, you 390 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 14: know the future of Australia should not be you know, 391 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 14: hardcore neoliberalism. We should think about, you know, where things 392 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 14: where things require government involvement, for example, looking after the 393 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 14: most severely disabled people. Should we have a private a 394 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 14: private system where all these dodgy providers are there to 395 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 14: just abuse and defraud people on a massive scale. And listen, 396 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 14: I want the money to go towards people who are 397 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 14: civilly disabled who actually need it. If the choices between 398 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 14: giving millions of dollars toys through the NDS and building 399 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 14: high speed rail and building nuclear energy and building one 400 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 14: hundred and fifty metro station's subway stations in every major 401 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 14: city in Australia, I mean, what should we choose as 402 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 14: a country giving pedophiles million dollar NDIS plans or should 403 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 14: we instead, Yeah, build up the country. Let's have nation 404 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 14: building projects, developmental economics, rebuild the nation. That's what I 405 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 14: want to do for the country instead of just allowing 406 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 14: you know, billions of dollars to be wasted on just 407 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 14: basically shoveling money in the world, I mean into a furnace. 408 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 3: I think Australians want the NDIS to help people who 409 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 3: are severely disabled because for a long time they were 410 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: forgotten about. It was up to their families to help them, 411 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: or they were put into age care facilities from a 412 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: young age. It was just so unfair. But people who 413 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: had dealt a bad hand in life. But now we've 414 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: got such broad numbers of people who are qualifying for 415 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: the NDIS and some of the services being made available. 416 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 8: Again, beggar belief. 417 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: Before you go you posted recently about the grim housing 418 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 3: market for young Australians, how you're being priced not out 419 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 3: of buying a house, but even being able to rent 420 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: in some cases. You're in Brisbane, tell my audience about 421 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: what you faced the soaring cost of keeping a roof 422 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 3: over your head and do you see housing as a 423 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: real sort of sleeper issue that is boosting one nation. 424 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: All the focus is on one nation's immigration policy, energy policies, 425 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 3: but housing is a hugely consequential issue. 426 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 14: Yes, housing is a disaster, reader just an absolute disaster. 427 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 14: When I tried to find a rental, I would go 428 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 14: to these places, you'd be going up against two hundred 429 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 14: and three hundred people lined around the block, you know, 430 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 14: for one rental. Most of them would be international students 431 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 14: and migrants who had arrived really recently in the country. 432 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 14: So you know, as an Austransit it's born in this country, 433 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 14: I'm competing against, you know, hundreds of people who've just 434 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 14: arrived in the country to get housing. Now I live 435 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 14: in a four bedroom place with a couple of roommates. 436 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 14: It's it's nine hundred dollars a week. The same house, 437 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 14: the exact same house five years ago would have rented 438 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 14: for five hundred dollars. So that's like the rent has 439 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 14: doubled in five years because of massive pressure on the 440 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 14: housing system because of mass migration implemented by the labor government. 441 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 14: So my rent went from about five hundred to nine 442 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 14: hundred dollars a week. 443 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: Now, if you're looking. 444 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 14: At house prices, the house would have sold for about 445 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 14: seven hundred thousand. 446 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: Dollars five hundred. 447 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 14: Five years ago, the house would have sold for seven 448 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 14: hundred thousand dollars. Now it sells for about one point 449 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 14: three million. So if you put seventy thousand dollars aside 450 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 14: ten percent deposit back in twenty twenty, you'd be paying 451 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 14: about two thousand dollars a month in mortgage payments. Now 452 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 14: you'd have to save one hundred and thirty thousand dollars 453 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 14: to put a ten percent deposit down, and you'd be 454 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 14: paying about seven thousand dollars a month in mortgage payments. 455 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 14: So you know, when I was a kid, my parents 456 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 14: would always say, never rent through its dead money. You 457 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 14: should put money towards, you know, buying your own place. 458 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 14: Then then you're actually building your own your own sort 459 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 14: of net worth. But listen, like the mortgage payments on 460 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 14: this exact same house that I'm. 461 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: Living in would be double what I'm paying in rent. 462 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 2: It doesn't it's. 463 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense and it's becoming out of reach 464 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: for so many ordinary working Australians. 465 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 8: Drew, thank you so much for your time. Tonight, still 466 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 8: to come. 467 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: Lefties Losing d plus the latest from the US, including 468 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's threats to destroy the Iranian regime. 469 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 8: Kosher Gator is up next. 470 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: You're watching the Reader Panney Show, and it's time for 471 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: Lefties Losing ad. 472 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 8: Let's check in with folks in. 473 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 3: Canada or Snow Mexicans as some call them, and some 474 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: of the lunius Canadians in the country got together recently. 475 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 3: It was a conference for the hard left New Democratic Party. 476 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: Now you would have all heard of the victim card. 477 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: These Canadians went one better and started handing out equity cards. 478 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 8: Literally. 479 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 10: There's a point of privilege on microphone one. Then we'll 480 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 10: go to microphone three. Go ahead, delegate. 481 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 11: Yes, hello, I was standing here with my gender equity 482 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 11: card before you called on the previous speaker. 483 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: That's my point of privilege. 484 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 6: I would like to her. 485 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 10: I will explain this speaking order, which is fixed that 486 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 10: I cannot amend, which is the pro con rotation. You 487 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 10: can move yourself up a line that you're standing on. 488 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 8: I am pro, and I was we went. 489 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 10: You went pro, you went pron pro, and my plan 490 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 10: was to go con. The speaker at Con, Mike three, 491 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 10: also has a speaking card. 492 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 13: Yesterday, this card was used in an inappropriate manner, and 493 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 13: while I understand in Ontario we know this is equity, 494 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 13: even if that this was also used inappropriate in terms 495 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 13: of gender, I want everyone to be mindful that these 496 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 13: cards for individuals like myself who identify as a black woman. 497 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 8: She identifies as a black woman, that. 498 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: There was a time when you didn't have to point 499 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 3: that out. It was pretty obvious. But we are talking 500 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: about painfully work broken Canada, where this is how adults 501 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: conduct themselves now. 502 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: Point of personal privilege. I understand there's very little time 503 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 4: and for delegates to speak, but early on the mic, 504 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 4: it's hard as a racialized and transgender delegate to sometimes 505 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 4: use this card and speak up, speak to somebody in 506 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 4: front of me in line and ask hey, this pertains 507 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: to multiple intersecting parts of my lived experience. 508 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: I'd like to speak. 509 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: I was rejected when I talked, and it's frustrating when 510 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 4: these are my rights being directly under attack right now 511 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 4: in Alberta, and that assist gender woman had spoken over me, 512 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 4: and I understand her rights are important too. This pertains 513 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 4: to her too, but I don't know. I hope that 514 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 4: in the future the federal MDP will also have a 515 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 4: broader interpretation of the equity cards for speakers. 516 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: That's all, thank you. 517 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 10: I will invite delegates to assist me in better using 518 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 10: the card by forming a street street line behind the 519 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 10: microphone with a prominently. 520 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 8: Dispute equity code. If I see speakers ahead of you who. 521 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 10: Are not holding a code prominently, it would be wrong 522 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 10: with me to guess about their gender identity, and I 523 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 10: will come to you. 524 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: Ah goodness me, she said the words straight line there 525 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: without a trigger warning point of personal privilege. How dare 526 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: raise his gender woman speak. I mean, the whole thing 527 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: is nuts. Everything you see there is a sign of 528 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: civilizational decline. Let's stay in Canada, and guys, I really 529 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: don't think the country is okay. Let's type a look 530 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: at what passes for talent at the country's premiere music 531 00:27:48,800 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: awards show, Locus. Yeah is too sure, Yeah, Okay, that's 532 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: enough of that. At least Nellie Fittado seemed to be 533 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: liking a bless her. That was the Juno Awards to 534 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: honor achievements in Canadian music, and the night was hosted 535 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: by actress and alleged comic Martin, who's about as funny as. 536 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 8: An ingrown toe. 537 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 3: Now Here she talks about Davos, you know, the location 538 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: for the World Economic Forum. 539 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 8: She talks about how proud. 540 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: She was of her weak, lefty, soy boy prime Minister. 541 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 11: I do have to say though, that when I saw 542 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 11: Mark Curney's speech. 543 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: At Davos, did you see that? 544 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 8: I felt a child like prime. 545 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 11: I felt like he was Canada's dad, sticking up to 546 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 11: the bullies. 547 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: I was like, that's my promin. 548 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 11: And then I saw him posing with the cast of 549 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 11: heated rivalry and just. 550 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: My nervous my nervous system just relaxed. 551 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 8: Her nervous system relaxed. Guys. 552 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: Yet, Canada most definitely is not okay, And who the 553 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 3: hell is. 554 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 8: A heated rivalry? 555 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: Who cares now to the issue of male bodies in 556 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: women's sport? And one massive beneficiary of that has been 557 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: cast out Seminar, who was born with a difference in 558 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: sex development. But he has x y chromosomes, a genetic 559 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 3: male who won Olympic gold running against women. That will 560 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: no longer be possible under new sane rules adopted by 561 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: the IOC. 562 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 8: And he says, that's unfair. 563 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 15: You know the medical terms, what they tell me, or 564 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 15: my testosterone. You know, being born you know without the utrahs, 565 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 15: you know, being born with internal testa goals. 566 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: Those don't make me less a woman. 567 00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: Is just the. 568 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 15: Different is that I was born with and I embraced them. 569 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: Dude, I'm pretty sure testes do make you a man. Now, 570 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: get ready to lose some brain cells because we're about 571 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: to hear from a Guardian writer who claims women are 572 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 3: better than men in soccer. 573 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 16: This is actually why women's football was abolished by the 574 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 16: Football Association in the twenties, which because women were too 575 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 16: good and if you put them on the same team, 576 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 16: men got upset. And that has been the evolution of 577 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 16: male and female sports. 578 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 8: That's a said. You look very skeptical, but it's true. 579 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: That level of delusion, that level of ignorance, is frankly dangerous. 580 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 8: Here's a reality check. 581 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: High school boys teams could beat women's soccer teams, national 582 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: soccer teams. Remember Australia's elite national women's team losing seven 583 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: nil to a bunch of thirteen and fourteen year olds 584 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: from Newcastle. Yes, beaten seven nil the Newcastle under fifteen 585 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: boys team. And I'm talking about Newcastle in Australia, not 586 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: the UK. Now, let's go to CNN, who had delivered 587 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: a brutal reality check about this issue. 588 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 8: They weren't expecting this. 589 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 17: You were the face of the Olympics for so many years. 590 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 17: This news today about the IOC basically banning trans athletes, 591 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 17: that there's going to be a genetic test. Your reaction 592 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 17: to that and this very complicated issue. 593 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 15: Common sense is not transphobic. There's a reason why the 594 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 15: high school champions don't compete with the college champions. There 595 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 15: is a reason why no trans man who was once 596 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 15: a woman and has become a man has ever competed 597 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 15: successfully with men in the Olympics. 598 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: If Caitlin Clark could play. 599 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 15: In the NBA, everybody would applaud it. 600 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: That'd be an incredible thing. 601 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 15: But if the last guy on the bench of an 602 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 15: NBA team went to the WNBA and started averaging forty 603 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 15: points a game, everyone would know that that is BS. 604 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 15: It doesn't make any sense to have a swimmer who 605 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 15: was the four hundred and seventy second ranked swimmer when 606 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 15: he was a man at Penn either winning or coming 607 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 15: close to winning against women. A year and a half 608 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 15: after transitioning Bravo. 609 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: Sticking with CNN, who never missed an opportunity to be 610 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: the Democrat's unofficial propaganda arm. 611 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 8: Here the anchor here listened to. 612 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 3: A litany of lies, all of it unchallenged, but she 613 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: does pop up at the very end to make one correction. 614 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 18: It's a voter intimidation, voter suppression effort, and the president 615 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 18: is tying tsapay to that, which is also absurd. And also, 616 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 18: I don't want to give a penny more to TSA 617 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 18: or DHS, even if they are already funded, because what 618 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 18: I'm hearing from constituents and what I'm seeing is that 619 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 18: they're dragging women by their hair, throwing him into unmarked vance, 620 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 18: chasing people through the fields and factories where they work. 621 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 18: They've committed public executions, two of them, and co signing 622 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 18: off on this is just not who we are as Americans. 623 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 18: And there's a simple way to do this. I think 624 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 18: you point that out at the top, and the Senate 625 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 18: majority leader would be wise to take that deal. 626 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 12: I think that you may have misspoken. 627 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 13: You said, Tsa, you don't want to give another penny 628 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 13: to TSA. 629 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 18: I think that you meant I'm sorry, I thank you. 630 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 18: I meant ice. 631 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: Let's bring in sky News contributing out Kosha geta kosher 632 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: It is CNN. 633 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 8: I shouldn't be surprised, and yet I am. 634 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: She reminds me of, you know, we've all been in 635 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: school and been in the study group, and there's that 636 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: one person who has no value to add other than 637 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: just fixing grammar on the side thing, no substantive contributions. 638 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: That's what she reminded me of, She swallowell. They're all 639 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: part of the apparatus and they've got to stick to 640 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: the narrative. And they know that they're on the losing 641 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: side of the narrative for this because public opinion as 642 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: it relates to illegal immigration has completely left them and 643 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: as a business model, their ratings are circling the drain. 644 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: So they're kind of stuck between a rock and a 645 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: hard place. Or how do they let go of that 646 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: ideological loyalty that they have while doing something to turn 647 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: the business around and everything from seeing their star hosts 648 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: remake their sets like podcasts yeats, which was so funny, 649 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: to this, I don't think they've quite found the winning 650 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: formula just yet. 651 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 3: That's been fascinating in itself. To see the likes of 652 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: Anderson and Tappa in these trying to be Joe Roganrogan 653 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 3: and having a set that kind of looks like Joe 654 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 3: Rogan doesn't make you Joe Rogan. It's about the content stupid, 655 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 3: and the content is still rubbish. Now we've spoken about 656 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 3: the tragic murder of teenager Sheridan Gorman, gunned down by 657 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: an illegal immigrant in the sanctuary city of Chicago, and 658 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: May Brandon Johnson, who has marched against ice, he was 659 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: asked about his own activism, his own policies leading to 660 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: Sheridan's murder. 661 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 19: You think this opportunity to apologize to Sheridan's parents for 662 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 19: the policies that promoted that that would directly caused her death. 663 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 19: It sounds like would not be in the city, would 664 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 19: not be in the country, but for your policies. Will 665 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 19: you take this opportunity to apologele. 666 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 18: Again at that we're all grieving the loss of Sheridan 667 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 18: and other folks who have lost their lives are because 668 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 18: of since its violence. 669 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 8: Kosher. 670 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: He was happy marching against. 671 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 8: Ice that was just last month. 672 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 3: Even has made the snowplows in Chicago bear anti Ice 673 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 3: signage like it's some massive joke. 674 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 8: Does he have some. 675 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 3: Responsibility for what happened to Sheridan Gorman? 676 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 8: He does. 677 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean he is one player, maybe a two bit player, 678 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: but he is one player in the whole set of 679 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: players on the chessboard that have led to this scenario 680 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: over forty years, you know, well before his time, as 681 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: he mentioned that, but certainly including him. As we're of Chicago, 682 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: he's a chief executive of the city he controlled. He 683 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: can issue executive orders. That's one thing he can do 684 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: because he controls logistics and how different departments, including the 685 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: Chicago PD, cooperate or not in this case with ICE 686 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: and with the Feds. He very happily is continuing that policy. 687 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: It has been around for eighty years. They don't share information. 688 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: If they happen to incidentally catch an illegal committing a 689 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: lesser crime, they're meant to share that with ICE so 690 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: that you can advance deportations. They don't do any of 691 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: that on purpose. And the other way where he can 692 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: make a difference is in public influence and shaping the 693 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: narrative and talking about illegal immigration and all the rest 694 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: of it. But of course he won't do that because 695 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 1: he's an apparatchick. His side has a playbook. It's been 696 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: working because they have made in power for eighty years, 697 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: and whenever some day this happens, he'll just dodge and 698 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: continue on. 699 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 8: His merry way. 700 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: Now, many in the US are not even aware of 701 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 3: this crime, the tragic senseless murder of teenagers. Share it 702 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 3: and Gorman have a look at the limited coverage this 703 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 3: crime has received on mainstream outlets like ABAC, NBC, CBS, 704 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 3: NBAC divided just twenty three seconds to the story in 705 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 3: a week. 706 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 8: And this is something Caroline. 707 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 3: Leavitt, White House Press Secretary, addressed earlier today. 708 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 11: Young beautiful American woman whose life was taken short by 709 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 11: an illegal alien who should have never been here in 710 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 11: the first place. When we are in the middle of 711 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 11: a battle on Capitol Hill with a major political party, 712 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 11: the Democrat Party, who wants to defund the agency that 713 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 11: is responsible for protecting Americans, I think her life was 714 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 11: worth more than twenty three seconds on cable television. And 715 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 11: I think the people in this room have a responsibility 716 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 11: to report on cases like this. 717 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 8: And it's what you spoke about with CNN. 718 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: It's this ideological position they have that determines what stories 719 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 3: they how they cover them, how much they cover them. 720 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: I mean, this story any day of the week should 721 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 3: be leading a news service. You've got an innocent teenager 722 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 3: walking by the lake being gunned down, and then you've 723 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 3: got people counselors saying, oh, well, maybe she startle the shooter. 724 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 8: I mean, the victim blaming that went on immediately. 725 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: Afterwards was disgusting, and yet the media is barely covering it. 726 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: The only silver lining is the ratings for all of 727 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: these networks are down, and also they are consolidated with 728 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: the smaller and smaller and shrinking, drinking swap of society. 729 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: It's basically the sixty five seventy plus crowd that is 730 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: watching cable news in general, certainly on TV and also 731 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: the big broadcast network. So that's the only thing that 732 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: while they gave no coverage twenty seconds or less, independent 733 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: media has covered it and continues to cover these things 734 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: quite a bit. They are winning bit by bit. It's 735 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: just leading to this very fragmented electorate where you've got 736 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: people in these echo chambers, and the ones who participate 737 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: in digital media and independent media know what's going on 738 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: and see these stories, and the ones who are still 739 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: only watching news on television don't. And it's almost like 740 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: there's two Americas taking place at the same time, two 741 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: movies on one screen. 742 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about the conflict in Iran and overnight prisident. 743 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 3: Trump made all sorts of threats to the Iranian regime, 744 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: including destroying Iran's energy plants and oil wells if it 745 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 3: does not reopen the strait of mouse. 746 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 8: Tell me about the choices the US is facing. 747 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 3: That kosher because the Uranian regime seems to have a 748 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 3: death wish. They are being absolutely decimated, but they're continuing. 749 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 8: They're refusing to do a deal. 750 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: Is the US going to have to seriously consider ground 751 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 3: troops or is that just such an palatable idea domestically 752 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,479 Speaker 3: that they're going to have to come to some sort 753 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 3: of a deal to exit this conflict. 754 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 2: That is the question. 755 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: I think the answer is kind of both. They hate 756 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: to see it because it is very unpalatable domestically, everybody 757 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: fears that you're just going down or up that escalatory ladder, 758 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: getting sucked into quagmar. It's just even more unpalatable given 759 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: that it is the Trump administration which campaigned against doing that. 760 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: But the more they're in this and Iran has showed 761 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: that they are a clever adversary and they know what 762 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: their cards are. They know they control the straight up 763 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: or moves at how important that is for global energy 764 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: markets and everything else, and they are really playing that 765 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: card to the hill. So we're sort of in this 766 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: very tough position. If you just look at the deployments 767 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: that are happening, it looks as though dare I say, 768 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: boots on the ground is certainly becoming a more and 769 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: more real possibility. But then Trump is always giving mixed messages. 770 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: So even this statement that you read that he gave, 771 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: he sort of ended in a different way from where 772 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: he began. So he's keeping everybody guest saying we don't know. Ultimately, 773 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: there's three options either taken off ramp, claim victory for 774 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 1: whatever has been achieved so far, or stay and keep 775 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: trying to do a deal, which is kind of his 776 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: tends to always be his comfort zone or you're going 777 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: down at exculatory ladder, and then we just don't know 778 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: what happens from there. Is it three thousand troops, is 779 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: it one hundred thousand troops, is it three weeks, is 780 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: it three months? Nobody knows, and it's a whole new. 781 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 8: So the goalpost keeps shifting as well. 782 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 3: Initially, the death of the Ietola that was a huge coup. 783 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 8: That was you could say, we've achieved what. 784 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 3: We wanted to achieve and we've eliminated their nuclear capacity. 785 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 8: That was the primary reason. 786 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 3: To start this conflict against the Iranian regime. But now 787 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 3: the goal seemed to have shifted. Now, unless there is 788 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 3: regime change, then there's a viewpoint that well, mission unaccomplished. 789 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: It hasn't helped. So it started with we don't want 790 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,959 Speaker 1: them to get nukes, But then the word President Trump 791 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: used after Operation of Midnight Hammer a year ago was 792 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: they've been obliterated. That was the word that he used. 793 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: So then everybody's like, well, then why did we have 794 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: to go back in. Then it shifted to well, we 795 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: don't want them to enrich, which is kind of what 796 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: they're talking about now. At some point it was Diatola 797 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: and taking out the regime. Then it was We're going 798 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: to sink the navy and destroy their air capacity, which 799 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: has happened. At some point, it was humanitarians. So it 800 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: really has been all over the board. And it's very 801 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: unusual for Trump, who is very savvy with media and 802 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: messaging and knowing what the electric wants. So I have 803 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: to think that there's some method to the madness. But he, 804 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean, his Paul and members are really really taking 805 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: a hit, and he is losing confidence from a lot 806 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: of people in his broader coalition. Not the diehard nigaphuns, 807 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: but the broader coalition is very nervous. 808 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely amongst independents who he won enormously at the presidential election, 809 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 3: he's underwater and come the midterms, he needs those voters 810 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 3: otherwise it's going to be a bit of an electoral bloodbath. 811 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 8: Koshagator, thank you so much for your time. Thanks still 812 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 8: to come. 813 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 3: Alex Stein will share the fun he had at a 814 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 3: pro trans rally over the weekend. He's coming up next, 815 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 816 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 8: Well. 817 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 3: Over the weekend, the city of Dallas took part in 818 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 3: a trans Day of Visibility protest and friend of the 819 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 3: show Alex Stein ventured down and got quite a surprise 820 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 3: when he met some of the protesters'. 821 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 12: Joyman's dress room. 822 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 18: That was weird as hell. 823 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 8: That was weird as hell. 824 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 12: I just got sexy assaulted by transgender. 825 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 3: Joining me now is the host of After Hours with 826 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 3: Alex Stein on Real America's Voice. 827 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 8: Alex, Now, I don't want to be accused. 828 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 3: Of victim blaming here, but you were out there just 829 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 3: agitating these people, and many of them are already unbalanced 830 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 3: before you join in the mix. 831 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 12: Well, Rita, you know me very well. You know how 832 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 12: unbalanced I am. So I mean, what am I going 833 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 12: to do about it? And let's be real that that 834 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 12: person that kissed me, Luckily they were a biological female, 835 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 12: so nothing too crazy happened. I know that they're LARPing 836 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 12: as a boy, but I could tell that they were 837 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 12: just a female just by the way that their body 838 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 12: was shaped in the hips. So you know, I'm prior time, 839 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 12: Alex Stein. They never see an ultimate gig at Chad 840 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 12: like myself at these events, so you saw these soy boys, 841 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 12: So I'm not surprised that she was attracted to me 842 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 12: and came up and kissed me. 843 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 3: Save her yet, Alex just get out of these marches 844 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 3: a bit more, and you may save some of these 845 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 3: lost girls. Now, we saw over the weekend these mass 846 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 3: rallies across America. 847 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 8: They're no King's rallies to protest against Donald Trump. Haven't 848 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 8: looked here. 849 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 3: As a reporter for Bravard is assaulted and then threatened 850 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,760 Speaker 3: by protester. 851 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 8: Who was that about? You just touched me? 852 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 3: No, you're touching me, Alex. What did you make of 853 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 3: those protests? Did you get amongst them? Did you try 854 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 3: to change some hearts and minds? 855 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 12: Well, Reda, There wasn't a lot of dialogue at the 856 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 12: protest that I went to, but I did notice the 857 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 12: shocking trend. A lot of the violence was not from 858 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 12: young people. It was from basically, I would say, the 859 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 12: boomer class, the really elderly. I mean a woman came 860 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 12: up to me and hit my found in a similar 861 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 12: fashion like that, and she was a woman probably in 862 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 12: her seventies. So I thought that was very unusual that 863 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 12: these people that really didn't have a clear agenda on 864 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 12: what they were protesting for. We considering we don't have 865 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 12: kings here in America, I was really surprised that they 866 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 12: were the ones making violent Usually that's somebody that's young 867 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 12: and not somebody that you know was in their sixties 868 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 12: or seventies. 869 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 3: Now, former reality star turned La Met candidate Spencer Pratt 870 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 3: has released a campaign video that has got people talking. 871 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 3: Let's have a look at a bit of it. 872 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: Are you encoded with the trip? We off the map? 873 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 12: Father Hills brought by. 874 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: She was pumping from. 875 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 8: A broad Paly said, though out the nane smoking the sky. 876 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 3: We were coming in like you think she was saying 877 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 3: bye bye. 878 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: Look what you left on a. 879 00:45:52,520 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 8: La looking like a closet where the junkins are. Latino 880 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 8: is for Pratt. I'm gonna say it's got a bit 881 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 8: of a vibe to us. 882 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 3: Spencer Pratt thinks he can dethrow in the current LI 883 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 3: Met Karen Bass. 884 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 8: Is he dreaming Alex Or is he a genuine chance? 885 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 12: Well, you know they've given Spencer a lot of problems. 886 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 12: I believe in the latest debate they didn't let him, 887 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 12: you know, have a chance to actually debate anybody. But 888 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 12: let me tell you something, i am the biggest the 889 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 12: Hills and Laguna Beach fan. I'm a huge reality TV 890 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 12: you know officionado and Spencer Pratt is fearless he's bold, 891 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 12: and you have a stay like California and a city 892 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 12: like La that has been mismanaged so poorly that honestly, 893 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 12: a reality TV show star couldn't do any worse than 894 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 12: his predecessors. I mean, and at this point, La is 895 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 12: a town about glicten glamour. Why not put a guy 896 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 12: like Sitcher Pridden in charge you? At least he's gonna 897 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 12: put water in the fire hydrants because he, you know, 898 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 12: had his house burned down. So that's the best way 899 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 12: you learned from something is when something bad happens to you. 900 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 12: And I think he paid the pride. So I think 901 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 12: that he would be the great mayor, and if I 902 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 12: could vote for him, I would, But I am going 903 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 12: to get a bunch of illegals to vote for him, 904 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 12: so hopefully that is what it takes to put him 905 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 12: over at the top. 906 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 3: Are there any sane people left in California though, or La? 907 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 3: Because the exodus has been quite enormous in recent years. 908 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 3: The same people have been moving to states like Texas 909 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 3: where you are Tennessee Florida. They've been getting your way 910 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 3: from the crime and those exorbitant taxes. When only the 911 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 3: crazies are left you're probably going to get another term 912 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 3: for Karen Bass, aren't you. 913 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 12: Well, I hope not. I mean, Karen Bass is such 914 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 12: a horrible mayor. I mean, I know that's she stated 915 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 12: the obvious, But when it comes to what happened with 916 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 12: the fires, that could have been at least maybe not prevented, 917 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 12: but they could have been slowed down tremendously, and they 918 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 12: only have water in the reservoirs. So I don't know 919 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 12: how a person could do much worse unless she's purposely 920 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 12: trying to do bad, unless she's purposely trying to tank 921 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 12: the real estate prices. So there are a few bid 922 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 12: people left in California, which you're exactly right. Most of 923 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 12: them moved to Florida and Texas because they can't afford 924 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 12: to live there, even if you're a successful individual, because 925 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 12: the government taxes you so much. And then what do 926 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 12: they see their tax dollars go to, Not to clean 927 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 12: up the homeless, not for health care, not for any 928 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 12: social issues they care about. It's literally wasted away for 929 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 12: absolutely no benefit whatsoever for the taxpayer. 930 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 3: Now, before you go sticking with California, the current governor there, 931 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom, is considered a front runner to be the 932 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 3: Democrats presidential candidate next time around. Can you see that happening. 933 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 3: He's got a lot going for him. He's good looking, 934 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 3: he's got a little bit of charm and charisma. You 935 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,280 Speaker 3: can't manufacture that, and he's going to get a golden 936 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 3: run from the media. 937 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 8: Alex, that's going to be helpful. 938 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 12: No, you're exactly right. But if you just look at 939 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 12: Gavin Newsm's for resume when he was mayor, he slept 940 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,720 Speaker 12: with his chief of staff's wife. I mean, the guy's 941 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 12: a total creed for pervert. But the fact that he's 942 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 12: been able to continually win in California new shows that 943 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 12: he could definitely win all the other liberal states. So 944 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 12: I'm very worried, and I do think that he is 945 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 12: going to be somebody that definitely gives the next conservative 946 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 12: candidate a big push. I mean, it's going to be 947 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,280 Speaker 12: a tough battle, whether it's JD. Vans or Marco Rubio. 948 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 12: So we shouldn't underestimate the power of Gavin Newsom. Like 949 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 12: you said, he's got the look and he's got the 950 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 12: talking down. I mean, he has all the attributes that 951 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 12: you need to win an election. So I don't think 952 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 12: he'll win, but he's going to put him a fight. 953 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 3: Alex Stein, thank you so much for your time tonight, 954 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 3: and that's all the time we have. 955 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 8: News Night is up next