WEBVTT - Desperate times call for desperate measures - please don't cancel us!!! 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.281 Apojee Production. 0:00:10.161 --> 0:00:12.881 Welcome to Behind the Drapes. I'm your host Brent Draper 0:00:13.001 --> 0:00:14.801 aka Drakes, and I'm Sean. 0:00:14.641 --> 0:00:17.361 Lee Draper and we're here to talk about stuff according 0:00:17.361 --> 0:00:17.961 to us. 0:00:18.481 --> 0:00:20.041 Hey guys, it's Draper here. 0:00:20.281 --> 0:00:22.321 And I was naked on the Golkos Highway. 0:00:23.441 --> 0:00:29.481 Yoh, buddy's made to give you are a strong woman. 0:00:31.761 --> 0:00:36.041 Welcome to another episode Behind the Drakes. Today's episode it's 0:00:36.081 --> 0:00:39.040 for you parents out there. Look, you can be on 0:00:39.161 --> 0:00:41.361 either side of the fence of this one what we do. 0:00:41.721 --> 0:00:45.001 You can look at it as evil parenting, or you 0:00:45.001 --> 0:00:46.400 can be on the other side of the fence with 0:00:46.561 --> 0:00:49.480 us and look at it like, yeah, go you guys, 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.801 take a stand for yourself. It involves a five year 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.721 old who was getting naughtier and naughtier by the day, 0:00:56.961 --> 0:01:00.361 a trip away in the caravan and the East Bunny. 0:01:00.521 --> 0:01:03.081 I feel when I brought this up to you, I said, 0:01:03.081 --> 0:01:04.641 I think we need to talk about this in the podcast. 0:01:04.641 --> 0:01:05.001 He usually. 0:01:05.041 --> 0:01:07.321 I was like, I think people are going to be 0:01:07.321 --> 0:01:09.360 like really annoyed and probably going to try and cancel 0:01:09.441 --> 0:01:11.121 us because they're going to think about their parents. I 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.881 just wanted to cavey out the conversation by saying we 0:01:14.041 --> 0:01:16.481 love our son very much. I feel like we're very 0:01:16.481 --> 0:01:18.721 good parents. We talk about kind parenting all the time. 0:01:18.721 --> 0:01:21.280 I'm the fucking queen kind parenting. I've read all the books, 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.001 I've got all the course, I've spent a million dollars 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.001 in me a kind parent, but it doesn't fucking work. 0:01:25.041 --> 0:01:25.441 Sometimes. 0:01:25.761 --> 0:01:27.761 I don't think you. I think you're overthinking it a 0:01:27.761 --> 0:01:28.160 little bit. 0:01:28.441 --> 0:01:30.801 No, I'm not, because there are gonna be Karens that 0:01:30.881 --> 0:01:33.601 come for us that are like, how dare you do 0:01:33.681 --> 0:01:34.281 that to your child? 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:35.280 You have ruined him? 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.121 Yeah, but if you don't do anything, that would be 0:01:37.161 --> 0:01:40.121 Karen's coming for you. Doomed if you do, and you're 0:01:40.161 --> 0:01:40.961 doomed if you don't. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:41.560 True. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.761 All right, So let's get into the story. So today's 0:01:43.801 --> 0:01:45.041 just a little bit of story time, I think. And 0:01:45.081 --> 0:01:47.241 we just wanted to catch everyone up with where we've 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:48.681 been lately, what we've. 0:01:48.481 --> 0:01:49.041 Been up to. 0:01:49.441 --> 0:01:51.961 And this is something that has been playing a very 0:01:51.961 --> 0:01:53.921 big theme in our life, which is parenting and how 0:01:53.921 --> 0:01:56.281 hard it actually is. And I actually feel a bit 0:01:56.321 --> 0:01:58.921 naive because I feel like with alf just having one kid, 0:01:59.401 --> 0:02:01.201 it was so easy, was it? Not? 0:02:01.441 --> 0:02:01.881 Like the fuck? 0:02:01.921 --> 0:02:02.481 It was easy? 0:02:02.961 --> 0:02:05.561 Just like do everything whatever we wanted. It was just 0:02:05.641 --> 0:02:07.001 even when he was a baby, he was just a 0:02:07.081 --> 0:02:09.201 very easy baby. And now we're in this stage of 0:02:09.241 --> 0:02:12.681 life where we're finally, like you know, going to the 0:02:12.681 --> 0:02:15.601 birthday parties and parents are like, oh my god, parenting's 0:02:15.641 --> 0:02:18.241 so hard, and we're like, yes, we are here for 0:02:18.321 --> 0:02:20.361 the journey. We are on the ship, all going in 0:02:20.361 --> 0:02:20.921 the same direction. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:21.361 We get it. 0:02:21.481 --> 0:02:22.921 So anyway, we wanted to talk to you about what 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.641 happened with Easter one this year. If they're a little 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.921 ears listening, you might want to turn this episode off 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:29.560 and play. 0:02:29.361 --> 0:02:33.000 It at the time. That's right, you didn't give that disclaimer. Start, 0:02:33.041 --> 0:02:35.481 you're about to jump right in a right. 0:02:35.561 --> 0:02:39.440 All right, So let's paint a picture here. Look, Alfie's 0:02:39.481 --> 0:02:41.681 not a bad kid at or. He is one of 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:46.201 the smartest, kindest kids that I know, and naughty. I 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.841 think YouTube kids had a lot to do with this too. 0:02:48.881 --> 0:02:51.721 There's a few brady kids on there that make videos whatnot. 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.841 We don't usually have let him have YouTube kids for 0:02:53.881 --> 0:02:56.601 this exact reason. However, we had it because we had Bowie. 0:02:56.601 --> 0:02:58.800 We let him have it as as a distraction, and 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.081 we went to Japan and so we had the iPad 0:03:01.081 --> 0:03:03.000 in Japan, and this is kind of where it all started. 0:03:03.041 --> 0:03:05.641 I feel so, yeah, he just you know, to get 0:03:05.881 --> 0:03:09.681 naughtier and defire us a bit and argue back, and 0:03:09.761 --> 0:03:12.441 I think, just what five year olds do. It's nothing 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.921 like sinister in it, but it feels it sometimes it 0:03:16.921 --> 0:03:20.041 feels like he's trying to wreck my life. But obviously 0:03:20.121 --> 0:03:24.280 Easter was coming upon us, and we've booked into Red 0:03:24.361 --> 0:03:27.561 Rock Caravan Park, which is the first caravan park we 0:03:27.601 --> 0:03:30.081 went to when we did the trip around Australia. We 0:03:30.121 --> 0:03:32.761 loved it, it was awesome. We also only had one 0:03:32.881 --> 0:03:35.401 kid then. I think we're trying to think of those memories. 0:03:35.681 --> 0:03:38.081 But yeah, we had the new caravan. We were heading down. 0:03:38.721 --> 0:03:41.961 Life was good until sort of it wasn't because Bowie 0:03:41.961 --> 0:03:43.961 cried the whole way down there. It's like three hours 0:03:43.961 --> 0:03:47.161 of driving and he cried anyway, So yeah, we get 0:03:47.161 --> 0:03:49.121 down there, we set up and I just know I 0:03:49.161 --> 0:03:52.160 can tell, Like usually with Alfie, I can just see 0:03:52.161 --> 0:03:55.081 it in his character. He just was on another level. 0:03:55.201 --> 0:03:59.841 Wasn't listening, running around, running away, and I was like, oh, man, 0:04:00.001 --> 0:04:02.081 like it's not going to be fun this trip. I 0:04:02.081 --> 0:04:04.761 can see just yelling at each other and you're trying 0:04:04.761 --> 0:04:07.361 to like not be too loud because you know, you're 0:04:07.401 --> 0:04:09.281 in a caravan park, there's people right next to you. 0:04:09.681 --> 0:04:10.881 But he is just on another level. 0:04:11.241 --> 0:04:15.441 He started doing this thing probably just before Bowie was born, 0:04:16.001 --> 0:04:19.361 where it's almost like he skipped the Terrible three thing 0:04:19.401 --> 0:04:21.760 and whatever you call it. And he started having tantrums 0:04:21.801 --> 0:04:24.080 when he was five. That was the start of it 0:04:24.121 --> 0:04:25.161 for us, the tantrums. 0:04:25.161 --> 0:04:27.641 So the screaming, that's the main thing, was the tantrums. 0:04:27.961 --> 0:04:29.881 What you're referring to is like the yelling. It's the 0:04:29.961 --> 0:04:34.041 yelling from him. He literally has learnt to, I don't know, 0:04:34.161 --> 0:04:36.241 this weird two or three year old behavior at five 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.401 turning six where he just chucks himself on the floor 0:04:38.401 --> 0:04:40.521 and screams and yells and until he gets his own way, 0:04:40.561 --> 0:04:42.601 which he doesn't get right, and so then it escalates. 0:04:42.641 --> 0:04:44.601 And so yeah, you're in a caravan park and you're like, 0:04:44.601 --> 0:04:47.081 oh my god, this kid is like on one like 0:04:47.161 --> 0:04:50.721 going off and people probably think that, you know, he's 0:04:50.761 --> 0:04:53.481 getting hurt inside this caravan. No, it's just that he 0:04:53.561 --> 0:04:56.400 was losing your shit. He wasn't happy again, guys. We 0:04:56.561 --> 0:04:59.440 just come back from Japan. Japan was a really wild, 0:04:59.721 --> 0:05:02.841 whirlwind time. It was a really tricky time. Alfi was 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:04.801 not happy, and you know what, babe, we weren't either, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.481 Like we had our mental state was not good. I 0:05:07.641 --> 0:05:11.041 was probably the most depleted I've ever ever been, I 0:05:11.041 --> 0:05:12.001 think for our family. 0:05:12.041 --> 0:05:14.280 We were just already having a hard time. 0:05:14.361 --> 0:05:19.960 And Alfie's behavior that was so extreme was just the 0:05:20.201 --> 0:05:24.880 icing on the cake, the icing on the shitty cake really, 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:28.440 because it wasn't a good cake. It was tough for me. 0:05:29.081 --> 0:05:32.361 The final stroll with alf I was inside cleaning up 0:05:32.401 --> 0:05:35.481 and drapes is outside and Draper's mum was holding Bowie 0:05:35.921 --> 0:05:37.001 and I didn't see this. 0:05:37.361 --> 0:05:39.001 You were there, You saw what happened with him. 0:05:39.201 --> 0:05:42.001 Alfie went over and was cuddling Bowie and his nonna 0:05:42.641 --> 0:05:45.880 and he bit Bowie on the leg. Now, it wasn't 0:05:45.961 --> 0:05:48.561 like a chomp, you know two to three year old 0:05:48.721 --> 0:05:51.200 bite where everyone, you know, someone screams. 0:05:50.801 --> 0:05:53.241 Because it's like so Bowie didn't even make a noise. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.001 But we didn't make a noise, right, so we actually didn't 0:05:55.001 --> 0:05:56.561 know that he had. I didn't know he'd done it. 0:05:57.161 --> 0:06:00.080 He's obviously walked over. His little leg's been hanging down 0:06:00.121 --> 0:06:02.320 when your Mum's been holding him, and he simply just 0:06:02.361 --> 0:06:04.440 like opened his mouth and put Bowie's skin in his 0:06:04.481 --> 0:06:05.401 mouth and chomped down. 0:06:05.481 --> 0:06:07.520 So it wasn't like a hard chomp. It was just 0:06:07.561 --> 0:06:09.001 like a slow burn of a chomp. 0:06:09.081 --> 0:06:12.561 I like, he's just put his leg in his mouth 0:06:12.601 --> 0:06:14.801 and then this burst of energy come. I already went. 0:06:15.041 --> 0:06:18.801 Literally yeah, So I didn't see it, but we didn't cry. 0:06:19.241 --> 0:06:21.921 The only reason I knew this had happened is because 0:06:22.041 --> 0:06:23.761 later on, when I was changing him, I saw a 0:06:23.801 --> 0:06:26.961 little bite mark on his leg. That for me was 0:06:27.121 --> 0:06:30.840 enough because previous to this, Alfie's never done anything to Bowie. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.521 He adoores that baby. He's obsessed with him too. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.201 Much so sometimes to the point where we're like, oh wait, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.960 chill out. But for me, I was like, Okay, that 0:06:38.161 --> 0:06:40.401 is behavior that I do not want to see continue. 0:06:40.641 --> 0:06:42.960 He's gotten away with it in the moment because we 0:06:42.961 --> 0:06:45.601 didn't know what happened, and I don't want to see 0:06:45.601 --> 0:06:47.801 that happen again. So I said to Draper, like, I'm 0:06:47.801 --> 0:06:48.440 not good with that. 0:06:48.721 --> 0:06:49.441 There needs to be. 0:06:49.401 --> 0:06:51.641 Consequence with this, and we had to talk to him 0:06:51.641 --> 0:06:54.241 about it and he admitted it, you know, but it 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.440 just felt like at that point in time and parents 0:06:56.481 --> 0:07:00.241 are listening will get this that like no consequence means anything. 0:07:00.361 --> 0:07:01.961 Sometimes for these children, they don't. 0:07:01.801 --> 0:07:02.241 Give a shit. 0:07:02.361 --> 0:07:04.561 You don't like care anymore. If you take the iPad 0:07:04.561 --> 0:07:06.841 of him, doesn't care. It hurts him for like two minutes, 0:07:06.921 --> 0:07:10.001 and then he's like he even goes like that doesn't 0:07:10.001 --> 0:07:12.321 even worry me. Yeah, he's cotton onto it, like there's 0:07:12.361 --> 0:07:14.401 nothing we can do and we're not going to smack 0:07:14.481 --> 0:07:15.561 him because we don't smack. 0:07:15.761 --> 0:07:17.921 No, send him to his room. We've tried that. 0:07:18.201 --> 0:07:19.801 He goes to his room for two minutes and then 0:07:19.921 --> 0:07:20.321 I mean. 0:07:20.161 --> 0:07:22.041 He doesn't like that, to be honest, he actually really 0:07:22.041 --> 0:07:23.601 doesn't like being sent to his room. And we time 0:07:23.641 --> 0:07:24.881 it and then we're like, you know, you can come 0:07:24.881 --> 0:07:26.881 out after five minutes or whatever it might be. But 0:07:26.961 --> 0:07:29.081 nothing was really working, you know when like you have 0:07:29.121 --> 0:07:31.721 a kid and they just look at you and they've 0:07:31.761 --> 0:07:33.721 got that look in their eyes like lights are on 0:07:33.801 --> 0:07:36.641 no one's home. Like he just looked like angry. Hey, 0:07:36.761 --> 0:07:38.521 he liked a little demon look on his face. Like 0:07:38.641 --> 0:07:42.160 whole like there's five days, so things were not going well. 0:07:42.321 --> 0:07:44.401 He bit bowie, this is the day before Easter. 0:07:44.761 --> 0:07:45.721 And then that night. 0:07:45.921 --> 0:07:49.001 We had some neighbors next to us, and there were 0:07:49.081 --> 0:07:51.681 young people like you know, in their like mid twenties. 0:07:51.681 --> 0:07:54.241 I had a kid of their own, really lovely. Anyway, 0:07:54.281 --> 0:07:56.921 I look at the window and I see the mom 0:07:57.481 --> 0:07:59.121 having him go at Alphie, not in a bad way, 0:07:59.201 --> 0:08:00.921 just like I could tell she was telling him off. 0:08:01.041 --> 0:08:02.841 Yeah, And I was like, shit, what's happened there? Don't 0:08:02.841 --> 0:08:03.361 know what's happened? 0:08:03.401 --> 0:08:05.401 So I went out, and as I went out, Alfie 0:08:05.401 --> 0:08:07.361 was walking across and he had his head down and 0:08:07.441 --> 0:08:10.001 he looked really sad. He just got in trouble. And 0:08:10.001 --> 0:08:12.281 I said, oh, you know, mate, what happened? And he 0:08:12.521 --> 0:08:15.481 lied to me and said something like I called the 0:08:15.601 --> 0:08:17.321 man a mango, remember or. 0:08:17.241 --> 0:08:17.841 Something like that. 0:08:17.881 --> 0:08:19.681 And I was like, okay, so something's gone down. So 0:08:19.761 --> 0:08:21.921 I was like, you know what, I'm finishing getting dinner 0:08:21.921 --> 0:08:23.441 sorted with drapes, so I think I was doing the dishes. 0:08:23.481 --> 0:08:25.081 I'll go back and have a chat. Sim later on, 0:08:25.401 --> 0:08:27.761 I asked Alfie again, what happened. I'm going to go 0:08:27.841 --> 0:08:30.281 talk to them. He told me some little lie. So 0:08:30.361 --> 0:08:32.040 I went over and had chat to the guy and 0:08:32.161 --> 0:08:32.801 I was like, did. 0:08:32.641 --> 0:08:33.441 Something happen before? 0:08:33.521 --> 0:08:35.801 And he was like yeah, he just called me a name. 0:08:36.001 --> 0:08:37.841 He's like, it's you know, it's all good, and I 0:08:37.921 --> 0:08:40.161 was like, no, that is todd. So he didn't swear 0:08:40.201 --> 0:08:43.041 at him, but he called him an inappropriate name. He 0:08:43.081 --> 0:08:44.881 actually said it to the guy twice because the guy 0:08:44.921 --> 0:08:46.561 was like, what did you say? And then he repeated 0:08:46.601 --> 0:08:48.761 it like fuck me seriously, going to repeat it again. 0:08:48.801 --> 0:08:51.721 He's got balls, that kid, soed god, very very inappropriate. 0:08:51.721 --> 0:08:54.441 I came back, I apologized on half VALFI, and then 0:08:54.481 --> 0:08:56.641 I came and spoke to you about it and we 0:08:56.641 --> 0:08:58.721 were like, nah, this has just gone too far now. 0:08:58.721 --> 0:09:00.481 Like it was almost like the straw that broke the 0:09:00.521 --> 0:09:02.601 camel's back. It was like, Okay, this kid's getting away 0:09:02.601 --> 0:09:04.681 from us at this point in time, he's five years old. 0:09:05.241 --> 0:09:07.241 If he gets away with this, what else is he 0:09:07.281 --> 0:09:09.081 gonna think is okay to get away with? And I, 0:09:09.481 --> 0:09:10.241 you know, both of. 0:09:10.241 --> 0:09:11.561 Us crews, i'stealing cars. 0:09:11.881 --> 0:09:18.161 Oh my god, he's not gonna oh my god. Yeah no, 0:09:18.521 --> 0:09:20.881 but it was that moment of Okay, we actually need 0:09:20.881 --> 0:09:22.761 to do something here that we think is going to be. 0:09:22.721 --> 0:09:25.401 Impactful, just like to reset everything, you know, like something 0:09:25.441 --> 0:09:27.761 that hits him really hard. And he goes, oh, and 0:09:27.801 --> 0:09:29.721 then starts to think about his behavior. Now that's what 0:09:29.761 --> 0:09:30.201 we needed. 0:09:30.321 --> 0:09:32.961 Yeah, And in our house, we're big on consequences, like, 0:09:33.001 --> 0:09:36.201 you know, okay. So for example, this morning, he was 0:09:36.321 --> 0:09:38.641 crying because I gave him a dollar yesterday to take 0:09:38.681 --> 0:09:40.201 to school so he could buy an ice block, and 0:09:40.241 --> 0:09:42.681 he lost the dollar and he came in crying to me, 0:09:42.721 --> 0:09:44.601 and I said, and he wanted another dollar, and I 0:09:44.641 --> 0:09:46.881 was like, no, the consequence of your action that you 0:09:46.961 --> 0:09:49.041 lost the dollar, that you didn't take care of the dollar, 0:09:49.121 --> 0:09:50.361 is that you don't get another one this week. 0:09:50.401 --> 0:09:51.721 And he was crying, carry on. 0:09:52.281 --> 0:09:55.321 He then walks into the bathroom tells the same story 0:09:55.361 --> 0:09:56.001 to Draper. 0:09:56.401 --> 0:09:59.041 He comes back out and goes, Dad said that he's 0:09:59.081 --> 0:10:01.281 got another dollar that he's going to give me. I 0:10:01.361 --> 0:10:02.921 was like, no, that is. 0:10:02.921 --> 0:10:06.601 Not no consequences, So in this moment we were like, nah, 0:10:06.601 --> 0:10:09.081 that's not good enough. Also, he's just disrespected an adult. 0:10:09.441 --> 0:10:12.001 And I feel like he's at this really impressionable age 0:10:12.001 --> 0:10:13.321 where you know, what do they say? Like they get 0:10:13.361 --> 0:10:15.641 to seven years old and they kind of their little 0:10:15.641 --> 0:10:18.601 brain has shaped their like values in life and the 0:10:18.601 --> 0:10:20.121 things that are important to them, and they know right 0:10:20.161 --> 0:10:21.961 from wrong in some ways, like. 0:10:22.121 --> 0:10:25.801 Okay, this morning, he knows his teacher loves mandarins. So 0:10:26.601 --> 0:10:29.361 we dropped Bowie off to daycare and on the way 0:10:29.401 --> 0:10:32.281 through at a fruit market, he stopped ran in bought 0:10:32.281 --> 0:10:35.041 a bag of amandarins for his teacher. He's the kindest 0:10:35.121 --> 0:10:38.081 kid is. He's just got a temper and we. 0:10:37.961 --> 0:10:39.681 Need to stop caveat and we need to stop talking 0:10:39.681 --> 0:10:41.481 about how wonderful kids. We're telling you this story. 0:10:41.761 --> 0:10:43.081 We're telling him how bad he is. 0:10:43.161 --> 0:10:46.281 Yeah, he was a little shit and that's okay, children. 0:10:45.961 --> 0:10:48.521 Are we what was our plan? All right? 0:10:48.561 --> 0:10:51.321 So what happened was we obviously apologized. I had a 0:10:51.321 --> 0:10:53.961 conversation with him. He admitted what he'd said. He was 0:10:54.001 --> 0:10:56.521 really upset about it. He said he would apologize, but 0:10:56.521 --> 0:10:58.041 he didn't want to go back on his own, So 0:10:58.121 --> 0:11:00.521 it took him a long time to go back and apologize. 0:11:00.561 --> 0:11:02.921 Even when we went over there, he wouldn't apologize. He 0:11:02.961 --> 0:11:06.201 was holding on to me. He was head down, really embarrassed, 0:11:06.561 --> 0:11:09.321 and you know, as a parent, like, firstly, not that 0:11:09.441 --> 0:11:12.001 I wasn't embarrassed, but absolutely there's a part of you. 0:11:12.081 --> 0:11:13.841 It's like the ego, I guess, but you're like fuck. 0:11:13.881 --> 0:11:15.681 I can't believe my kid did that. By the way, 0:11:15.801 --> 0:11:17.761 that word he said, we don't say that in our house. 0:11:18.241 --> 0:11:19.641 By the way, it was idiot, so we don't say 0:11:19.681 --> 0:11:22.481 idiot in our house. We knew he got that from YouTube. Yeah, 0:11:22.521 --> 0:11:24.641 I guess the ego was a bit bruised in that moment. 0:11:24.761 --> 0:11:28.161 So it was very hard standing there and having to 0:11:28.641 --> 0:11:31.641 force him essentially to apologize. I just went, I'll wait 0:11:31.681 --> 0:11:33.881 until you already and then I reckon. I waited there 0:11:33.881 --> 0:11:36.681 for like three to five minutes. Ay, he finally apologized 0:11:36.681 --> 0:11:38.081 to this guy. The guy said, don't worry, mate, it's 0:11:38.081 --> 0:11:40.601 all good moving on. But for me, it wasn't all good. 0:11:40.721 --> 0:11:42.761 And for me it was like I just felt like 0:11:42.801 --> 0:11:45.361 he needed a consequence in that moment. So we got 0:11:45.401 --> 0:11:47.801 home and I remember, sorry, go back to the caravan 0:11:48.121 --> 0:11:50.201 and I was outside. You and I were talking, and 0:11:50.241 --> 0:11:51.721 you just go in front of my mum. You know what, 0:11:51.761 --> 0:11:53.721 fuck it. Maybe the Eastern money doesn't come this year. 0:11:54.161 --> 0:11:56.521 And I was like silent for a change. 0:11:56.681 --> 0:11:58.241 It was an empty threat from me. 0:11:58.561 --> 0:11:59.761 Yeah, king of empty threat. 0:11:59.921 --> 0:12:02.441 I am the king of empty threats. I just said 0:12:02.441 --> 0:12:04.681 it to make myself feel a little bit like you 0:12:04.681 --> 0:12:07.241 have the power. Yeah, we'll take the East. Yeah, I 0:12:07.281 --> 0:12:09.121 can take it away, don't worry. 0:12:09.961 --> 0:12:12.601 But I took it kind of seriously and I was like, 0:12:12.641 --> 0:12:14.641 all right, well, I was like, that's actually not a 0:12:14.641 --> 0:12:17.921 bad idea, and You're like, oh really, and I'm like, seriously, 0:12:18.201 --> 0:12:20.201 the one thing this kid loves in the world is. 0:12:20.121 --> 0:12:22.241 What chocolate, thank you loves it. 0:12:22.081 --> 0:12:25.401 Loves chocolate, loves sweets is definitely my child. So we 0:12:25.441 --> 0:12:28.241 were like, all right, well, maybe there's something in that. 0:12:28.441 --> 0:12:31.841 And listen, that's a big call. Like we're aware we're 0:12:31.881 --> 0:12:33.601 sitting here and we're laughing and we're kind of making 0:12:33.681 --> 0:12:35.721 jokes mayb because we feel a bit uncofortable with this conversation. 0:12:35.881 --> 0:12:38.361 But it's a big call because you only have a 0:12:38.401 --> 0:12:40.721 certain amount of Easters with your children when they're little. 0:12:40.921 --> 0:12:42.641 You only have a certain amount of Christmases with your 0:12:42.721 --> 0:12:45.241 kids and they're little, so it is kind of like 0:12:45.281 --> 0:12:46.321 a specially important day. 0:12:46.401 --> 0:12:48.881 And we had this chat and I was like, nah, 0:12:48.961 --> 0:12:50.401 I think we actually need to do this, and Jope 0:12:50.481 --> 0:12:52.361 was like yep, right, oh, but you're also pissed off 0:12:52.361 --> 0:12:54.161 in that moment, so we're like, yeah, yeah, cool, Easter one, 0:12:54.161 --> 0:12:55.681 he's not coming to my when. 0:12:55.601 --> 0:12:57.121 You come up with a plan when you've had like 0:12:57.161 --> 0:12:59.481 three beers that night, and then the next day when 0:12:59.481 --> 0:13:02.201 you wake up, you're like, oh, no, I can't do that. 0:13:02.241 --> 0:13:03.601 It's a bad idea, idea. 0:13:04.041 --> 0:13:07.281 But we didn't wake up and say that. We woke 0:13:07.361 --> 0:13:09.081 up and we were like, okay, we actually have to 0:13:09.121 --> 0:13:10.961 go through with this. So we talked about it to 0:13:11.081 --> 0:13:14.241 my mum that night and Mom was like, guys, I 0:13:14.241 --> 0:13:16.321 think it's a really good idea. I've witnessed, you know, 0:13:16.361 --> 0:13:18.201 what's been going on with him lately, his behavior. He's 0:13:18.201 --> 0:13:20.881 definitely not himself, like something's changed, and he does need 0:13:20.881 --> 0:13:22.801 some consequences. He's kind of getting away with a lot 0:13:22.841 --> 0:13:25.361 and he's ruling the roost and he's you know, biting 0:13:25.361 --> 0:13:28.761 Bowie is obviously not okay. So we decided that's it. 0:13:28.841 --> 0:13:30.161 Not that we had a lot for him anyway. We 0:13:30.161 --> 0:13:32.721 honestly had like one freaking bunny and like a little 0:13:32.761 --> 0:13:33.881 tiny but. 0:13:33.561 --> 0:13:36.721 That's not the case. That's not the issue is for him, 0:13:37.441 --> 0:13:40.641 There'll be all kids everywhere else eating chocolate at six am, 0:13:40.881 --> 0:13:41.521 and he won't be. 0:13:41.681 --> 0:13:43.881 That wasn't my motive. By the way, I didn't actually 0:13:43.881 --> 0:13:45.641 even think about that. I just thought about he will 0:13:45.641 --> 0:13:47.361 wake up and not have anything. I didn't think that 0:13:47.401 --> 0:13:49.521 other children would be like putting in his face. That 0:13:49.641 --> 0:13:51.601 was not a part of my thought product. 0:13:51.721 --> 0:13:53.281 But that's the one that will hurt the moment. 0:13:53.481 --> 0:13:54.201 Yeah, definitely. 0:13:55.041 --> 0:13:58.441 So that night we stayed up talking about it, and 0:13:59.001 --> 0:14:00.241 Draper started backing out. 0:14:00.881 --> 0:14:03.521 He was like, oh, like maybe not. 0:14:03.721 --> 0:14:05.321 I was like, just maybe we give him more one 0:14:05.361 --> 0:14:07.721 and say that you only got one this time. 0:14:07.921 --> 0:14:10.081 Yeah, And I was like, nah, you're either all in 0:14:10.241 --> 0:14:12.201 or you're nothing. You can't just give him one because 0:14:12.201 --> 0:14:15.561 I doesn't teach any lesson at all, And you definitely 0:14:15.721 --> 0:14:17.961 were like, nah, I don't think we should be doing that. 0:14:18.041 --> 0:14:22.801 By the morning I was out, I'd be like on thisline, 0:14:22.961 --> 0:14:26.401 like how shit's your mom not giving you Easter eggs? 0:14:27.361 --> 0:14:30.361 That's where I was that I'd fully come out of plan, 0:14:30.641 --> 0:14:32.281 like oh shit, this. 0:14:32.201 --> 0:14:33.641 Is doing me dirty. 0:14:34.201 --> 0:14:37.601 No, So we decided together we were going to go 0:14:37.641 --> 0:14:39.081 through with it, and then I stayed up all night, 0:14:39.201 --> 0:14:41.001 not even joking, like, could not sleep properly. 0:14:41.001 --> 0:14:43.481 I was just tossing and turning, thinking like what if 0:14:43.481 --> 0:14:44.521 I'm gonna fuck my kid up? 0:14:44.561 --> 0:14:47.201 What if like I'm the reason my kid's gonna need therapy? 0:14:47.241 --> 0:14:49.081 What if like he talks to a psychologist one day 0:14:49.121 --> 0:14:51.921 and he's like, I remember one time and my mom 0:14:51.961 --> 0:14:52.481 and dad. 0:14:52.641 --> 0:14:54.761 You know, it was just it was honestly. 0:14:54.401 --> 0:14:59.921 I feel it was the easdemer So yeah, honestly, a 0:14:59.921 --> 0:15:01.641 lot of back and forth, and then I was just like, 0:15:01.721 --> 0:15:04.841 you know what, really, really, what's the worst that can happen? 0:15:04.881 --> 0:15:06.521 He got to learn a lesson here, like it might 0:15:06.601 --> 0:15:08.681 hurt us, And to be honest, I actually feel like 0:15:09.281 --> 0:15:10.841 I knew it was going to hurt us just as 0:15:10.921 --> 0:15:12.401 much as it was going to hurt him. But I 0:15:12.521 --> 0:15:15.161 knew that you have to be cruel to be kind sometimes. 0:15:15.201 --> 0:15:17.201 But that's how I felt about the whole, and he 0:15:17.241 --> 0:15:20.841 needed a consequence. So the morning comes, I have written 0:15:20.881 --> 0:15:22.321 him a letter. By the way, I've got the letter 0:15:22.361 --> 0:15:26.401 here it Oh my god, Yeah I kept it. I 0:15:26.441 --> 0:15:27.441 was like, I want to keep it. 0:15:27.521 --> 0:15:28.321 Just like one. 0:15:28.201 --> 0:15:34.921 Day, Oh my god, he's writing looks a lot like 0:15:34.961 --> 0:15:36.001 your chicken scratch. 0:15:36.641 --> 0:15:38.081 I wrote this letter to him. 0:15:38.281 --> 0:15:40.881 And the idea was the next morning he would wake 0:15:41.001 --> 0:15:42.921 up and I would find this letter and I'd read 0:15:42.921 --> 0:15:45.521 this letter to him. Can I just say one more thing, 0:15:45.641 --> 0:15:47.841 I honestly, I'm scared. I'm scared that people are going 0:15:47.881 --> 0:15:49.361 to come for us and be like, oh my god, 0:15:49.361 --> 0:15:52.121 why's parents ever. It's not like we were like, oh 0:15:52.161 --> 0:15:54.441 my god, how wonderful the easter money's going to come 0:15:54.441 --> 0:15:55.041 to morow Alfhi. 0:15:55.241 --> 0:15:56.321 We didn't gee him up. 0:15:56.321 --> 0:15:58.561