WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 3 October 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:04.360 On scolds Astodio. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:07.120 This is the winder Panalty Show. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.239 Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panecky Show coming 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:14.160 up tonight, a massive program. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:15.520 We've saved the best for last. 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.840 Douglas Murray will be with me shortly with a message 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.040 for the Australian anti Israeli activists who plan to march 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.919 on October seven. Also joining me tonight is Nick Kata, 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.520 Kreshua Gator and Kimsey Schofield. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:30.720 And an extended edition of. 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:36.400 Left Is Losing It, starring multiple MSNBC anchors including Nicole Wallace. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.559 The Audacity is it? Someone should start that star star? 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:43.760 Are you effing kidding me? 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:48.000 Let's start with those planned protests on October seven. Opposition 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:52.199 leader Peter Dutton has criticized Victorian premierges Into Allen for 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:57.320 her government's weak response to these anti Israeli agitators, and 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.440 he pointed out that the Labor government was more than 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.480 willing to stamp out protests during the COVID era. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.080 I think the Premier is at odds with the majority 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.720 of Victorians who would not support the celebration of death. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.240 So what is the justification for the Premier here not 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:18.360 to do everything at her disposal to stop these protests 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.720 from taking place. She was part of a government that 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.559 deployed the police force here in Victoria during the course 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.440 of COVID to enforce the rule of law, and I 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.960 think the Victorian Labor Party should have the same resolve 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.640 in relation to this issue. If there is a will, 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.679 there is a way to stop these protests, Let's bring in. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.480 Nick Caton, our senior fellow at the Menzies Research Center 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.399 and a columnists with the Australian newspaper Nick Peter Darton 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:49.120 makes a fair point at BET. I can't imagine how 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.840 devastating it would be for members of the Jewish community 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:57.280 to deal with protests on October seven, on the first 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:01.520 anniversary of what was the biggest massacre of Jews since 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:02.200 the Holocaust. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.800 Yeah, exactly. It's a very sad day Reta. I've been 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.800 anticipating this day for some time, knowing we'd get to 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.080 that anniversary and we'd have to look back and think 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.640 about those horrible events, the most devastating attack on Jewish 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.880 people since the Holocaust. The thought that anybody would be 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:24.240 on the streets protesting against Israel and in favor of 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:29.560 those Hamas terrorists and indeed the Hesbalah terrorist organization as 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:33.040 well is just chilling. I just don't know what gets 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.840 into people. And I know that every right minded Australian, 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.400 whatever they feel about the Middle East, will be sympathizing 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.080 with the Jewish community on Monday, who has suffered a 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.639 grievous loss. And what Jacinta Allen is doing once again, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:51.040 she's siding with the extremists on the fringe, and she's 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:55.120 not supporting every day Victorians who want to be able 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.800 to go about their business and take to the streets 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.320 if they so choose to mourn and to share those 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.720 memories together. It is deeply seekening. But finally, I just 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.000 say this reader on this topic, I thought people like 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:11.280 Jacinta Allen was supposed to be in favor of peaceful multiculturalism. 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.760 Whatever happened to that idea that we could all just 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.840 get along and put our differences aside and all be 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.880 you know, on the same side. You know, that's what 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.960 multiculturalism is surely about. But this is a horrible phenomena, 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:28.079 the rise of this anti semitism and pro terrorist sentiment 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:32.799 which is just fueling anger and making Australian streets a 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:37.360 very uncomfortable place to be for people from the Jewish community. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:43.440 Well, in Sydney, the planned pro Palestinian anti Israeli protest 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:47.560 is going to go ahead, despite police applying to the 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.040 New South Wales Supreme Court to stop the event. Nick 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.840 at least New South Wales has a permit system. There's 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.880 nothing of the sort here in Victoria. And the leftist 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:02.480 activists are loving that. They proudly call Melbourne the protest 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.200 capital of Australia. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.400 Yes, indeed, but look, I mean, this is a chance 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.040 for the New South Wales police to redeem themselves after 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.320 that appalling incident last year on October the ninth. We've 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.360 got to remember those October ninth demonstrations at the Sydney 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.440 Opera House were not authorized reta. They just chose to 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.280 march on down towards the Opera House and the police 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.440 were too weak to stop them. I just hope that 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:31.599 the police are ready for a proper exercise in strong 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.040 policing this time and aren't going to take that lenient 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.600 view they did on October ninth. We'll all be watching. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:40.159 This is their chance to prove that they can keep 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.880 the peace without fear or favor. And I think what 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.000 the New South Wales Police do on Monday will be 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:46.880 very critical. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.800 Well, yeah, we can't allow mob rule, and that's what's 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.479 been happening. It seems that the police force is trying 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.920 to appease those that they fear are going to become 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.599 agitated and violent if they try to stop them doing. 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.440 Whatever it is they're doing now. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.640 In a further sign of the growing frustration of the 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.320 Australian business community with the Albanezi government, the Business Council 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:15.920 of Australia has lash proposed industrial relation changes from one 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.760 of Australia's largest unions, with the group's chief executives saying 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.960 that implementing the act used plans would and I quote, 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.600 take a sledgehammer to the economy by adding cost and 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:32.040 complexity for businesses at the worst possible time, while not 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.240 improving productivity. Nick Again, this is a huge departure from 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:41.920 the way some in big business held hands with Sally 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:47.040 McManus and the ACTU. You'll remember that job summit where 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.880 they were thinking they were all going to come out 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.560 winners and the Business Council of Australia I think at 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:57.080 the time got played badly. Is big business finally waking up. 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.520 Yeah, look sitting in terms of sitting around the campfire 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.159 singing Kumbaya and holding hands doesn't work. They should have 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.800 known that, of course, but you know, I suppose they 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.040 they had to go at trying to do things a 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.919 nice way. But look, the alban Easy government has just 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:17.960 done well since it came into government. It's been doing 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.360 making up for the favors the union movement has done 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.800 it and make it paying back the debt to the 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.440 union movement which gives millions of dollars to the Labor Party, 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.600 as we know, by making the laws once again in 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:35.440 favor of the unions, the big unions who just take 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.960 the public for granted and just just go out there 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:42.080 out for themselves. So I'm glad the BCA and the 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:47.080 Mining Council, incidentally, the Minerals Council have woken up to 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.400 this now because you know, we really have to resist 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.560 this anti government. It's anti sorry, this anti business government 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.680 which has come in with no idea how the real 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.279 economy works, and she's making life very very hard for 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:03.760 ordinary Australians. 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:09.480 Now, just before you go, we're hearing that Senator Fatima Payman, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.000 who was a Labor Senator and then quit the party 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.800 to become an independent. She's apparently only weeks away from 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.720 launching her own political party. She's got help now. Her 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:24.679 new chief of staff is the preference whisperer Glen Drury. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.800 Does that mean she's going to succeed because he has 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:34.880 been remarkably successful in the past in having candidates with 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.680 very small number of votes win seats. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.200 Well, you wouldn't be surprised. You look at some of 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:45.320 the riff rap that ends up in the Senate read 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:50.760 of different party banners through this preference system. It happens, right, 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.600 But I think what worries me about Senator Payment's idea 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.000 of what a party should be. I mean, sure, she's 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.280 free to set up her own party more than Marria 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.080 I say, but if she's going to build her party 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:06.680 around Islamism, then that's deeply troubling. We've never before in 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.920 Australia had a political party built around a religion or 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.640 a faith. That's a development which none of us want 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.800 to see. We like to think that politics is politics. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.760 Faith is another thing. And if they're going to turn 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.920 this into a party that's defined by the Islamic religion, 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.280 that is extremely troubling and we should all be worried 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:27.720 about that. 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.840 Nikita, thank you for your time this evening. Thank you 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:35.680 joining me now. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.840 Is best selling author of groundbreaking works, including his latest 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.360 The War on the West. Douglas Murray Douglas, I'm keen 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.080 to get your thoughts on the major escalation in the 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:50.240 Middle East with Iran's direct attacks against Israel. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.319 But first, the vice. 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.160 Presidential debate was on yesterday, and again we had the 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.599 moderators trying to be participants. 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.280 But despite that, jd. 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.840 Vance put in a solid performance that even the New 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.800 York Times called dominant. 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.960 You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.319 take Coompey, which of course he did. You've got to 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.640 pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.360 course he did. And then you've simultaneously got to defend 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.960 Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record. 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.400 Douglas, what are your thoughts on the debate and how 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.440 much impact, if any, will it have on the election. 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:31.080 Well, you know, the received wisdom, Rita is that VP 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.640 picks don't have that much influence on the race. That 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.480 I don't think is actually true. I think they do 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.480 have more influence thans often said, but it's also often 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.560 said that the VP debates don't have all that much influence, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.840 and again I don't think that's the case. On this occasion. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.640 This was the first time for the American public to 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.880 see JD. Vance and Tim Walls going head to head 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.760 and to judge both men. I have to say, I mean, 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:00.960 I think that it's pretty clear and that the New 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.560 York Times was for once right. I think the evening 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.959 was JD. Vance's. He seemed to be on top of 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.120 all of the issues that came up. He was respectful, 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:16.360 he was was sharp, he was likable, and much more. 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.760 And Tim Walls was, to use one of his own 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:25.280 favorite words, well, he was weird. He looked all the 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:29.040 time as if he had walked in from somewhere else, 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.040 from some other set or some other job application. It 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.680 looked like somebody who turned up for the wrong job 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.120 interview and then was rather startled to discover it was 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.800 the vice presidential debate. And of course he had the 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.040 worst the evening, worst moment of the evening when he 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.360 was asked about why he lied about being in China 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.840 at the time of Channeman Square, and he replied by saying, 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.440 I think the American public. You know, know that I 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.480 grew up in a house with a family, among Americans, 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.640 and you know, we have food on the table, and 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.920 we had a table and food. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:04.280 And. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.679 He just he just, I mean, even the biased moderators 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.360 did end up, after about what felt like forty eight 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.960 hours of this waffle, did end up saying, yeah, but 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.439 what about your claim that you were in Tiana and 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.360 square and and he did that great clintonism. I think 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.360 a phrase it wasn't a word that wasn't in the 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:30.480 language until the Clintons, which was I misspoke, And you know, 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.640 I mean, I suppose it could happen to any of us. Rita, 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.440 I sometimes claim to have been at the D Day landings. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.560 I often claim to have been there waving the Titanic 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:46.280 off as she sets sail. You know, it's easily done, 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.720 and it's just, you know, if you do catch me 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.439 doing it, Rita, I just misspoke, that's all. 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:55.679 It's an innocent mistake. 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.679 And I know you grew up in a household with 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.320 a family, and you had your dinners on tables with 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.839 four legs, so it's all tables. And now you are 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:11.480 focused on the facts, the consequential issues of this debate 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.760 and election. But others in the media are fixated on 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.080 other things like JD. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:17.240 Vance's beard. 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.320 And I'm not talking about teen Vogue here, but Politico, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:27.240 which has published this, Yes, Vance's beard matters. Vance is 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.079 the first White House wanna Be to wear facial hair 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.600 in eighty years. They go on to say how masculine 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.800 beards are and I quote that can be positive to some, 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.319 reading a strength and competence, but to others, specially women, 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:47.800 it can be negative, conveying aggression and opposition to feminist ideals. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.000 And this isn't the first time Politico has published a 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:52.360 piece about JD. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:53.680 Vance's facial hair. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.319 There was this in July with the headline yes JD 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.640 Vance's beard matters. Here is a whin I am kine 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:03.239 on your thoughts, Douglas. 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.200 It's very strange, isn't it. I mean, it suggests that 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:14.400 anything that looks like masculinity and competence would put off women. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.920 I have to say, I think the only women would 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.920 think that are ones with pretty big beards themselves. Quite frankly, 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.800 I don't think that most women find I don't think 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:30.480 most women find men having hair to be off putting. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:34.840 I don't actually think Contra Politico and these other rather 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:42.559 sexist publications actually that women are disturbed by competence. This 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.720 is just the extraordinary sort of demonstration that we've seen 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.760 for a long time of the way in which, frankly, 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.360 people keep on wanting to make these elections about things 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.600 other than the issues. And whenever the Republicans have been 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.720 accused of doing that, the Democrat media said, that's because 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.040 they don't have anything to run on. They're out of ideas. 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.959 I would have said that at the point that you're 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.600 having to talk about JD. Vance's beard and how it 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:14.559 might put off non bearded women, you're really in the sticks, 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.080 because frankly, there was a lot more that came out 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.200 of the vice presidential debate, and there should be a 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.920 lot more coming out of it, because America, like Australia 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:31.920 and other Western democracies, faces huge problems. It faces immigration crisis, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:38.880 it faces financial crises, if faces international crises. And the 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.280 fact is, I'm afraid that just as we have a 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.160 lot of people in the political class who are just 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.440 not up to dealing with these things, so we have 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.640 a lot of people in the legacy media class who 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.400 are so unable to actually work out what's going on 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.760 in the world, in the economy, and much more that 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.960 all they can do is zoom in on facial hair 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:04.080 and it's their fault, not jd Vance's. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.760 Now, let's turn our minds to the escalating conflict in 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.920 the Middle East, with Israel hitting targets in Bayrout, hitting 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:17.760 Hezbila strongholds. Yesterday we saw Iran launch around two hundred 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:22.560 missiles at Israel, some of which struck Israeli airfields. Israel 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.120 has promised to hit back Iran with precision and power. 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:27.560 Douglas. 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:32.320 President Joe Biden is talking about reintroducing sanctions on Iran, 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:36.960 but he has ruled out supporting Israeli strike on Iran's 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:41.200 nuclear sites. How do you see the US's support of 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.640 Israel and what we can expect to see from Israel next. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.920 First of all, when Donald Trump left office, the Mullers 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:53.000 and Tehran were begging him to lift the sanctions because 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.520 they weren't able to do anything and at home they 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.640 were in real trouble. And when Joe Biden into office, 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.280 of course, he did lift many of those sanctions, and 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.840 he gave a huge cash bonanza to the revolutionary Islamic 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.600 government in Tehran. It's only because they've had this cash 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:16.920 bonanza that they can afford to continue to arm these 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:22.720 colonialist armies like Hamas in Gaza, like hesbal Lah in Lebanon, 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.840 and the Huti militias in Yemen. It's only because of 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:30.040 the cash bonanza that the Mullers have had that they're 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:30.920 able to do all. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:31.520 Of these things. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.000 It's a little late in the day now for Joe 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.000 Biden to talk about turning off the spigot in his 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.520 last few days in office. I wish he would, but 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:46.040 I bet he won't. As for the actual retaliation, sorry, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:50.960 we've been here before some months ago, when hundreds and 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:55.280 hundreds of rockets were fired from Iranian territory from the 0:16:55.280 --> 0:17:00.760 Iranian government and its forces at Israel. That was. That 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.280 was these readies were told by Joe Biden famously that 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:08.240 they should keep the win because an international force managed 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.680 to shoot down almost all of those rockets. Well, this 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.400 is another occasion when they've done it. First of all, 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.639 by the way, it's a sign of the Muller's weakness. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:23.919 Their forces have been decimated in their Hamas forces there, 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:28.320 hes Bee Laugh forces have been decimated in Lebanon, including 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.520 their murderers who're not only murderer Israelis, but murdered two 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.720 hundred and forty one American servicemen in nineteen eighty three 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:39.320 in the in the marine Beirut Barracks bombing. So once 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.520 again Israel has been doing the work that America should 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:46.240 have done in getting those terrorists. The hooties in Yemen 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.880 are discovering quite fast that if you launch rockets at Israel, 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:51.400 they'll do something. 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:51.560 Back at you. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.719 And now the Iranian Revolutionary government is having to do 0:17:55.760 --> 0:18:00.600 it itself because it's terror proxies have been being wiped 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.320 out one by one in the last year, and so 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.360 they think they can dare to do this. My suggestion 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:13.320 should be that if you send ballistic missiles into another country, 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.800 that country has the right to respond, and Israel should 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.520 respond with a full force that its government and military 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.280 believe it should respond with, and I would hope that 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.280 America and any other country would do likewise. You can't 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.240 tell me, nobody can tell me that if hundreds of 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:33.560 ballistic missiles have been fired into Australia or Great Britain, 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:37.800 or Canada or America in the last couple of days, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.040 that we would listen to An ally telling us don't 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:44.480 do anything back. Sorry, no, too late for that time 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.560 them all has got a lesson closer to home. 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.840 And I do wonder whether the reality is that even 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:56.840 if Israel do eliminate Iran's proxies Hamas and Hezbollah, until 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:01.160 there's regime change in Iran, unless there's real pressure applied 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.840 on Iran, that we're still going to have this issue continue. 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.040 Israel's going to continue to be under threat from whatever. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:09.640 Group Iran fund. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:10.640 The whole region. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.960 The absolutely, and it's yeah, it's beyond Israel. 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:16.760 Absolutely. 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.400 How do you see Katar's role not just in this 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:24.320 conflict in the Middle East, but the enormous influence it 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:25.280 has in the West. 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.000 And how does such. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.840 A tiny country only around three hundred thousand odd citizens. 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:31.680 Most of the. 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.760 Population there are expatriates and migrant workers haws, such a 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:40.879 tiny country managed to have this profound influence in the West. 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.639 Well, you know, with Katar, it's just this just money, 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.320 that's all. That's all just money. That's Catar is only 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:53.040 only virtue. And if you say you read to it, 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.800 it's a few hundred thousand people sucking off the teats 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:01.679 of the royal family who themselves, just enriched themselves and 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.440 of course live lives of enormous luxury. Otherwise, as you mentioned, 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:09.600 there's this slave class that the s the slave State 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:16.360 of Katar keeps there, and that's the country. They've managed 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.959 to do a significant amount of buying up in the West, 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:26.400 in Britain, universities like King's College, London, in America, serious 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.680 Ivy formerly Serious Ivy League colleges and much more. And 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.199 if you ask where a lot of the hatred and 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.040 bigotry and racism of the last year has come from, 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:39.960 it's Katar doing this buying up influence. Abroad, I would 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.760 suggest that people turn this around, whether you like it 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:48.640 or not. In the last two years since Putin invaded Ukraine, 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:53.479 the international community managed to snap sanctions and really pretty 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:58.480 heavy handed in many ways, sanctions against almost anyone associated 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:05.360 with Vladimir Putin, seized oligarch's yachts and houses, and much more. Abroad. Well, 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:09.080 I would suggest it's high time since the terrorists sponsing, 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:14.800 sponsoring slave State of Katar has been wreaking its own 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:18.760 mini form of havoc. Mini compared to their friends in Tehran. 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.600 Across the region and the wider world, we make it clear. 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.280 Actually we aren't going to be bought and they're the 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.800 vulnerable ones here, and I hope that that is made clear, 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.800 and it should be. I'd like to see them, like 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:37.680 the revolutionary Islamic government in Tehran, strangled and throttled by 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:41.560 sanctions and more, because they have got away with buying 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.760 us up at too cheap a price for too long. 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:46.720 And I hope it changes. 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.560 Before you go. October seven anniversary is days away, the 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.679 first anniversary of the terrorist attacks launched by her Mass 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:59.440 and here in Australia there will be anti Israeli protests 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:05.040 held on October seven taking place. Shamefully, they expect to 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:09.840 see terrorist flags, the flags of Hazbullah, for example, flying in. 0:22:09.800 --> 0:22:13.800 Melbourne and Sydney. This is the. 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:20.960 Worst casualty attack against the Jewish population since the Holocaust, 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:25.720 and yet we're going to have people Douglas marching against Israel, 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:29.439 the only Jewish state, on that day. And I do 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:34.600 wonder about the left's unholy alliance with Islamist forces and 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.439 how much of a genuine threat it is. Do you 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:41.400 see it as I do, as a threat to Western civilization? 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.920 You know, retail When I was in Australia, recently, I 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:49.040 saw you, I saw these protests as in Sydney and Melbourne. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:53.080 They're a world away from this aspect of the world, 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:58.560 a total world away. Australia has suffered some terror attacks 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:03.520 in recent years, most noticeably against its citizens in Bali. 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:08.639 But these people marching on the streets of Australian cities, 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:12.120 the Australian public should know who these people are. They're 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:17.240 terrorists and the terrorist sympathizers. They're sympathizing and supporting exactly 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:20.399 the same people as the people who massacred the Australian 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:24.240 holiday makers in Bali. These are sick people and they've 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:28.560 got a mesage for them. They're also losing. They are losing. 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.000 The people whose flags they are going to wave in 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:36.680 great Australian cities are the flags of organizations that are 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:41.080 going into the dust as we speak. These people will 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.320 look back on this in ten years time with about 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.199 as much pride as a group of neo Nazis in 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:51.359 the nineteen fifties waving a swastika. Hamaz is nearly gone, 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.919 the hooties are almost gone. Hezbala is almost gone in 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:59.280 its entirety. The idea that you would have these losers 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:04.679 and terrorrist sympathizers in cities across Australia doing this. I 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:08.240 tell them they are on the losing side. Most of 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:14.239 their friends are gone already. They're admiring dead murderers. They 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:15.080 should think on that. 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:16.800 They certainly should think on that. 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:18.560 Douglas Murray, thank you so much for a time This 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.760 evening pleasure as always. 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:22.359 Still to come. 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.800