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Speaker 1: Mono GP went back to the Czech Republic for the

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Speaker 1: first time since twenty twenty, and a boy did it deliver.

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Speaker 1: We had a legend making his comeback. The other legend

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Speaker 1: put on a masterclass and a fiery on track clash

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Speaker 1: that has sparked just as much drama off track. Pittok

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Speaker 1: podcast is brought to you by Shannon's Insurance. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Ronita vmullin, and joining me is the man who's been

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Speaker 1: around since before Bruno was on the calendar, mister mac Layton. Matt.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start off this podcast before we get

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Speaker 1: into all the craziness. Can you believe it the first

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Speaker 1: race of the year that there's only been one new

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Speaker 1: caddie on the podium and three different manufacturers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bizarre, two caddies in the top ten. The way

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Speaker 2: you're doing that, excuse me, the way you're doing that

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Speaker 2: intro there, Ronita, I thought you were going to come

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Speaker 2: and knock me off my chair sort of, you know,

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Speaker 2: like a Bijuan miir for this podcast and just fall

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Speaker 2: in a heap on the ground. But that's a discussion

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Speaker 2: wasn't it? Because We're so used to multiple de caddies

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Speaker 2: But you look at the other manufacturers. At the moment,

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Speaker 1: Well before we get into the riders and the manufacturers.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest headlines from this weekend was Saturday's sprint,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the narrative of this year. You've hit the

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Speaker 2: in my head did I think he's only really twenty

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00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 2: or thirty points behind. Mark's kind of kept him in

435
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,160
Speaker 2: it through some mistakes. Now Marcus stopped making the mistakes.

436
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 2: This is where you see the difference, right.

437
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,639
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that up about Mark and

438
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,520
Speaker 1: what was happening in the Grand Prix, because when I

439
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,439
Speaker 1: heard the same thing, I just went, You've got to

440
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,360
Speaker 1: be kidding me, Like, who does that and then I go, oh,

441
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 1: it's a Mark Marquez thing. You know, the Mark's accident

442
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: happened July nineteenth, twenty What date was the Czech Grand Prix,

443
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 1: and what date did he break the record? For you,

444
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 1: Caddy and all? That was around July nineteenth, twenty twenty five,

445
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 1: so it was almost a five years right to the

446
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: day that he did that. I thought this weekend, I thought,

447
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 1: you know what Mark is gonna like this circuit because

448
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,919
Speaker 1: I kept hearing Matt Bert say on the commentary or

449
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: this is like Michello. It's similar to Michello. It's the

450
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 1: Czech Michello. And then you could see it during the

451
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: Grand Prix, whereas like and the sprints as well, turn

452
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: three was his passing opportunity and he would turn three,

453
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 1: turn three. It's just it's Mark Marquez coded. It's funny

454
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: because it is not a Saxon ring and it's not

455
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: a coder, but all of a sudden, it's like, well,

456
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 1: this is a Mark Marquez track once again.

457
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 2: Well, and this is the impressive thing with him this

458
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: year because he's done well at the tracks that we

459
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: expect him to do well, like when he went and

460
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 2: dominated Saxon Ring. Everyone kind of just shrugged their shoulders

461
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: and went sure, because that's what he does. The most

462
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 2: impressive part about his entire seat was two things.

463
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: For me.

464
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: I thought that it would be super close with him

465
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: and Banyaya for the entire year because Pecko's the incumbent.

466
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,719
Speaker 2: He's been in that team for so long, you know,

467
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: Pecko's in the last four years, Pecko's won two world

468
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: championships and very narrowly lost to like Gould have one

469
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: four World championships in a row. The fact that Mark's

470
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: come into that team and dominated Peco in Peco's backyard

471
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: is one thing. But there's this, there's just this difference

472
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 2: with Mark now in that I think he he's riding

473
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 2: much more intelligent and not that he rode unintelligently before,

474
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: but like an underrated thing with him is that why

475
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: does he never seem to get into tire trouble? Right,

476
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: He's always the guy that manages his tires better. He's

477
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: become so much more of a complete writer. I mean,

478
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: Matt Bert said it to us a few weeks ago.

479
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: This is the best version of him we've ever seen.

480
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: And I do wonder that had he not gone through

481
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: what he'd gone through since twenty twenty, as you were saying,

482
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: I wonder if we'd we would see that version. I

483
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: wonder if that version would have existed, all have come out.

484
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 2: Maybe it took him the trials and tribulations of that

485
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 2: five year period for him to find something new within

486
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: himself to be able to become the writer he now is.

487
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: But you know what's super interesting to me is that

488
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: I love priding myself as being an amateur reader of

489
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: body language. I'm like sort of a body language doctor

490
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: in my spare time. I should get a degree for

491
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 2: this or something. I love the fact that publicly he's trying,

492
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: he's not keeping a lid on it, but he's not

493
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: going absolutely crazy when he wins these races like he's

494
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 2: very you know, this could happen to me.

495
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: This could happen to me like this.

496
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: You know, the sky's always fall again, because when you've

497
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: had an accident like he has and it changed the

498
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: course of his career, He's not going to properly celebrate

499
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 2: this until it's done. And I think when it is done,

500
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: which is something I have crunched some numbers on that

501
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: I want to share with you. When it is done,

502
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: I think we're going to see this really rare occurrence

503
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: of Mark really letting his guard down in that he's

504
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: all of those sort of repressed feelings and emotions and

505
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 2: everything that's driven him and he's held in for the

506
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: last five years. When it's done and you can't take

507
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: this title away from him, the one that he's wanted

508
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 2: for the last five years, I think it's going to

509
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: be really revealing. I think he'll let his guard down

510
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: and I can't personally wait to see that because it

511
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: shows that more human side and the development of him

512
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 2: as a person necessarily not just as a racer. He's

513
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: so keeping a lid on it because in the aftermath

514
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 2: of Bruno, when Alex Marquez scores no points for the

515
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: first time all year, all of a sudden, that championship

516
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: lead is you know, you can start doing that. When

517
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: is he going to wrap this up conversation? Because it

518
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: is real now those championship lead is so much, But

519
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: even he's still holding himself back and maybe sort of

520
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: repressing how he really feels inside because he doesn't want

521
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: to sort of go too.

522
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 3: Early with that.

523
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: And one of my favorite little marxisms in his Spanish English,

524
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: he says he uses the word injure when he means injuries,

525
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 2: and when he was asked what might stop him from

526
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: winning the championship, he said he could be injure. In

527
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 2: other words, he could be he could have injuries. One

528
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: of Mark's little set of quirks that he has with

529
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: his Spanish English that I love that, but it's still

530
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: in the back of his mind that every time he

531
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: stands in front of a mirror, his whole upper body

532
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: is marked with scars and signs of all the surgeries

533
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: that he's had. He doesn't need too much reminding us

534
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 2: what can go wrong. He sees it every single day, right,

535
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: and that's God, and that's got to be in the

536
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: back of his mind. So it's not going to be

537
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: over until it's over. But the question for me now is,

538
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: I don't know whether you've looked too far ahead in

539
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: the calendar. You know, there's actually a strong chance that

540
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: he could win the championship before we head to Asia.

541
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: That's actually really in play now. Although the more likely outcome,

542
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: I think, and this would be very on brand for Marquez,

543
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: he probably win it in Japan, because whereas he won

544
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: most of his he seems to win all of his

545
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: world championships in Japan. It always seems to happen there.

546
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: But this thing could be over in the best part

547
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: of ten rounds to go. This thing could be over

548
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 2: five rounds from the end of the season, I think,

549
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: which is wild.

550
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: And I was actually going to ask, you know, when

551
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: do you think Mark is the going to win the championship?

552
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: Because it's inevitable. But yeah, looking at that, I've heard

553
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: other people say similar. I originally thought, oh, probably Indonesia.

554
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: You know it's not long before Philip Iiland. Then there's

555
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: only a few to go after that. But Matt, I

556
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: know you're the stats man, so I know you're gonna

557
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: pump out some numbers. So what's he going to take

558
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: for Mark to win it? Before they head to the flyways?

559
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 2: Let me just consult the document that I have very

560
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: sneakily named Marquez points lead needed to win title Niga.

561
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 2: So in case you're wondering, no mystery there, So here's

562
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: this is interesting for you, right, So he wouldn't need

563
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: to be two hundred and twelve points ahead to win

564
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 2: the title at Massano. He's one hundred and twenty at

565
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: the moment. He needs to be one hundred and eighty

566
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: five points ahead to win it after Japan. That sounds

567
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: like a lot of points, right. Here's here's the key

568
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: stat for me. In the past three rounds so Czech Republic, Germany, Netherlands,

569
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: he's outscored Alex Marquez by eighty points in those three

570
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: rounds eighty eight zero points. The previous three round he

571
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: only outscored Alex by eighteen points because Alex was constantly

572
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: finishing second or third. Alex has been remarkably consistent all year.

573
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: That's been the hallmark of him staying in this for

574
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: so long. But we saw what happened to Alex. He

575
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: had the crash with a Costa at Asen, and he

576
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: had the double non score this weekend, terrible start in

577
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: the sprint, seventeenth across the line, had the early accident

578
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: with juardmir in the race at Bruno, so he scored

579
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: no points. Mark has won perfect Sprint Grand Prix double

580
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: in the past five rounds. He hasn't dropped the point

581
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 2: since Silverston. Basically, that's how long this run has been going.

582
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: All it takes is for Alex to get a little

583
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: wobbly like he has in the last couple of rounds

584
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: or more likely For me, it feels like a twenty

585
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: twenty five Apulia is now a match for a twenty

586
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: twenty four Ducady. At certain tracks, a twenty twenty five

587
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: KTM is going to be a match for a twenty

588
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: twenty four Ducati. So instead of Alex is doing a

589
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: really good job and finishing second and a distant second

590
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: behind Mark, there's going to be a Bazeki, or there's

591
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: now going to be a Joge Martin because he's now back,

592
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: or you're going to have Petro Acosta there. There's going

593
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: to be other interlopers that could potentially get in the

594
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: way of Alex just banking these points, and that just

595
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: accentuates Mark's gap even more so. In a roundabout answer

596
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: to your question, mathematically, I could see him winning it

597
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: at Messano, which winning in Rossi's backyard.

598
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: That'd be funny, wouldn't that go down? Will?

599
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: More realistically, I think he wins it in Japan, and

600
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: almost certainly by the time everyone gets to Phillip Island,

601
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: I think he will be a seven time Motor GP champion.

602
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you? Oh? That would be wild

603
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: and god, I'd love to be a Flanel.

604
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: Well, they're just about rubbing his nose at my goodness.

605
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow. Okay, well, okay, there's there's the stats there,

606
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: and there's something to kind of grow by. So you

607
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: said two hundred and twelve points, he'd needs to be

608
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: a head at Mazano to take the crown, one hundred

609
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: and eighty five ahead at Japan. Okay, So you mentioned

610
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: Alex Marquez a few times there, and I really want

611
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: to to bring this up because Alex Marquez Juan Mia

612
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: another collision. That was the drama that I was talking

613
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: about in the intro. But let me say this, how

614
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: much bad luck does one guy mean to get in

615
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: a season? You think? Okay, Juan Miyer, we know he's

616
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: the DNF and the crashed out king, but half of

617
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: this or majority of it is not even his fault.

618
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: He's not the one crashing out. He's being taken out, right.

619
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: I've always been so many of these which you are

620
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: mea this year that I've almost forgotten which ones were

621
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: which year and which ones were his fault. And the

622
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: common thing with a lot more of these recent ones

623
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: is that not many of them are his fault anymore.

624
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: No, no, And like we saw this, what happened, and

625
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: we saw Alex being handed along lap penalty after by

626
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: the stewards, which, okay, you could tell I heard that

627
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: Alex wasn't even looking or it wasn't trying to overtake.

628
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: He was looking in air quotes to try and overtake.

629
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: But apparently Duan said no, you know, he'd been getting

630
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: close and what not. But for me, it was the

631
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: fact that the broadcast was showing them for like a

632
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: solid amount of time. You could see that Juan he

633
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: was very, very heated, as he deserves to be because

634
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: he's constantly being taken out, and Alex was like a

635
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: little bit apologetically. Just the fact that Juan just kept

636
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: going and going and going. He wanted to make it

637
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: clear that that was not his fault.

638
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: It was so funny.

639
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: It was one of those conversations where I reckon that

640
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: Juan mid ninety five percent of the talking and Alex

641
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: is trying to walk away, and Mia is just walking

642
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: around in front of him, looking through that little hole

643
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: between the uplift advisor and the bottom of his help

644
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: but trying to make eye contact with him to make

645
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: his point.

646
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: He wasn't making a different point, he was making the

647
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: same point.

648
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: Because he is so utterly sick of you know, seven

649
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: days previously he got timpin bowling style by Ayagura in Germany.

650
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: You remember at the start of the French Grand Prix

651
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: when in Aabastian and he crashed in the wet took

652
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: out Banyaya and then Mia managed to crash in avoidance,

653
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: and the person that missed that crash by about recentimeters

654
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: was Joan Zako, who won the race about forty five

655
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: minutes later. So I don't know what it is with Jama,

656
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: whether he's you know, encountered a black cat or walk

657
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: under a ladder or broken a mirror or done all three.

658
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: At the same time.

659
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: But the guy is so unbelievably unlucky. And I'm sure

660
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: you're probably going to go into that number that I

661
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: threw at you yesterday because we were talking about this

662
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: offline and was like, how many DNFs does you and

663
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: me have? I don't know whether you've got it handy.

664
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: I can go through it if you like.

665
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, come you're the stats man. So yes, I

666
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: did ask Matt because I wanted to do a post

667
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: for the Fox Motorsports Socials just to say basically why

668
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: this guy should be handed the crown now for DNFs

669
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: this season, so come on, Matt. Okay.

670
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: So there's a maximum of twenty four starts this year,

671
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: so we've had twelve rounds. Me is only done twenty

672
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: three because he missed a CATA sprint because he had

673
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: gastro in the desert. That would have been heaps of

674
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: fun this year. On the DNF table, he has eleven DNFs,

675
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: so he's only finished one more race that he's actually

676
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: dnf'd in twelve finishes eleven DNFs. The next most DNFs

677
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: on my list here is Bradbinder with seven, so he's

678
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: basically got almost fifty percent, again more than the next worst.

679
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: But I reckon minimum fifty sixty percent of these aren't

680
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: his fault. Yes, he will crash and overreach, as we know.

681
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: I do admire the fact that he's not prepared to

682
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: sort of be patient and that he's going to rag

683
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: this thing to the end of its life and try

684
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: and see what he can.

685
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: Get out of it.

686
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: But man, can this guy just have some good luck?

687
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: And this was the thing right He qualified fifth at

688
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: Bruno on a Honda, which was an awesome performance at

689
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: a track that no one's been for a really long time.

690
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: He's best qualifying nearly two years, so he was right

691
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: in the position to do something good about it and

692
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: still managed to score no points because he got caught

693
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: up in other people's accidents.

694
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: He's just the unluckiest guy.

695
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: I murder GP and you do hope for his sake

696
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: that one day, all of these terrible events is payback

697
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: for him, and that he somehow sails through and finishes

698
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: second at a race or something or other, because I

699
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: don't think there'd be too many people that would be

700
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 2: supported for him, because the guy has just had the

701
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: worst possible luck for a very very.

702
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: Long time, and the fact that he technically is a

703
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: world chammian as well from twenty twenty and then you're

704
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: seeing this now just crazy, but you just said like

705
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: the unluckiest rider. It also made me think of Takannakagami,

706
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: who filled in this for the injured Yes, who then

707
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: got taken out during Saturday's sprint, and then he's injured

708
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: his knee. I believe it was the ligament or something

709
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: in his knee. So filling in for an injured writer

710
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: gets stickn out in Saturday's sprint, and now he's injured

711
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: so who's the next person to fill in Alisha Spiro Honda.

712
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: That LCR Honda second seat needs. It needs like an

713
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: exorcism or something. It's been pretty cursed as far as

714
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: this year has gone, because people have been injured when

715
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: they've been riding the bike, and it's so Chantra's bike

716
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: and he's only managed to score one point in the

717
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: first half of the season anyway, so it's Lucio might

718
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: want to ride it himself. At this rate, there's not

719
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: many too many other options that are going around.

720
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: Lucio couldn't do worse. I'ld say that he couldn't do worse.

721
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: But let's go from unlucky to finally being back on

722
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: the bike and having I would call a pretty successful weekend.

723
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: Jorge Martin, Now we're actually talking about him being on

724
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: track and for the first time in what feels like

725
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: a few months, we're not going to talk too much

726
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: about all his contract drama because Matt, you wrote a

727
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: really cool article on Fox sports dot Com to au

728
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: F Slash Motorsport from Jojey Martin and his pre race

729
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: press conference where you sent me a message. Go and

730
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: watch it, and guys, if you're listening to this and

731
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: you can haven't watched it, go and watch it because

732
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: to see Jogey Martin skirting around the fact of him

733
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: admitting that he made a mistake in causing all that drama,

734
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: and you know, Massima Rivala basically welcoming him back and

735
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: not getting blown well out of proportion compared to what

736
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: it could have. I thought that was just just fascinating

737
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: to read. But Matt, I wanted to talk to you.

738
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Obviously P seven on Sunday in the Grand Prix like phenomenal.

739
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: But the seing that that stuck out for me in

740
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: the midst of everything was Jjey saying about Mark Muckers

741
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: texting him, don't make a decision when you're down, and

742
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: I feel like that was Jorgey kind of going, I've

743
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: made a mistake here. I admit it, but I'm gonna

744
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna utilize this and not say I'm sorry. But

745
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: then we hear that, you know, hey, got sat down

746
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: for this team and he's like, I'm all in, like

747
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: let's do this, let's do this. And then to come

748
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: out on Sunday at P seven, your first race back

749
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: on a new manufacturer, you've been out for nine months

750
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: injureds what a weekend.

751
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, huge props to him and to the team for

752
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: two reasons. I mean, he sat there and did a

753
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: twenty five minute press conference on the Thursday of the

754
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: Bruno weekend, remembering not in his native language as well,

755
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: which is a barrier that you know a lot of

756
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: us can't even get our heads around. And he stood there,

757
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: sat on a stool on that stage by himself for

758
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes and had all of the awkward conversations

759
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: that you would never want to have. He didn't duck

760
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: any questions, He was very open, He was pretty emotional

761
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: at certain points. There are a couple of points in

762
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: that press conference where he really had to sort of

763
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: stop and compose himself as a performance goes. These guys

764
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: are performance athletes because of what they do on the

765
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: bike in terms of handling a really really difficult situation. Yes,

766
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: a situation that he put himself in, but nonetheless to

767
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: handle that situation the way he did was hugely, hugely impressive.

768
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: No matter how much coaching you've had but done beforehand.

769
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 2: That was really really well done.

770
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: On track.

771
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: Perfect weekend in that he played himself in. He did

772
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: some long tire running, he rode in the wet on

773
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: that bike for the first time, he managed to tick

774
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: a lot of boxers. Most importantly, he didn't hurt himself,

775
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: which is the absolute best outcome of the entire weekend.

776
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: And he can look at that and say, well, look,

777
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: you know, I'm half cooked or whatever it is here.

778
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: Marco Poseki finished second in that Grand Prix, so it

779
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: shows you there's more performance in that bike. And you know,

780
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: a fully fit Jorgey Martine versus a fully fit Marco Perzki,

781
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: we kind of know where the balance power lies there,

782
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 2: so that's something for him to aim towards. But I've

783
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: got to say the way Aprillia has handled this in

784
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: that they've stuck to their messaging from day one with this.

785
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: You could have excused them for taking like a real

786
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: victory lap here in terms of everything we said has

787
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: come true, told you so, like puff your chest out

788
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: and so to have a.

789
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 3: Bit of a swagger around.

790
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: I thought the way they put their arms around Martin

791
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: off the track and the way they greeted him in

792
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 2: the box after the qualifying and the sprint and even

793
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: after Friday practice when he managed to get himself into

794
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: Q two. If your johe Martin, and you've been at

795
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: this really low air mentally because you've been hindered and

796
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: then you were agitating for change while you were injured

797
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: and frustrated that you weren't on the bike. That's got

798
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: to mean something. And I think if your Martine and

799
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: you have a decent strong end of the season, you

800
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: can compete with some podiums here and there. You see

801
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: that the bike is the best thing that's not a

802
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: du caddie on the murdor GP grid. There's a non

803
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 2: zero chance that he stays there if the going is good, necessarily,

804
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: But I just don't think that Aprilia could have handled

805
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: that better in terms of you're our star rider, You're

806
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: our big asset. We moved heaven and earth.

807
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 3: To get you.

808
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: We really want you here no matter what happened. Let's

809
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: the ward, the water's gone under the bridge. Now let's

810
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: start from zero and let's build here. I thought both

811
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: parties came out of the weekend with a lot of

812
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: positivity and add to the fact that you know, Bazeki

813
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: for the last what four rounds now has been genuinely

814
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: up there most of the time. You know, we saw

815
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: what happened to asen he's been really really impressive as

816
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: he's got to grips now with that bike. He's coming

817
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: on really really strongly at the moment, and if you

818
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: take all of the decade runners out of the equation,

819
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: like he's just about being the most impressive guy over

820
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: the last probably four to five races. That boats really

821
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: well for Martine because you know, once he has this

822
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: big break now gets himself more physically ready by the

823
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: time we get to the flyways and there's a few

824
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: tracks on the Flyways that he really goes well at,

825
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: particularly Australia.

826
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: To be honest, he's going to be.

827
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: Pretty formidable because that bike is clearly quite good and

828
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: he's good enough that he might be able to take

829
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: it over the top. So do I think Aprili is

830
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: going to win a Grand Prix before the end of

831
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: the year.

832
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

833
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: I think they're going to win another one or two

834
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: before the end of the season. And you know, Martin's

835
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: been amazing at Philip Ireland for the past few years,

836
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: like probably the quickest guy, just not the guy who's

837
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: what the Grand Prix because of what have Woode Jones

838
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: Zarco in the Saturday race a couple of years ago,

839
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: and he had Marke to deal with last year on

840
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: the Grassini Decaddy. But if you were ever going to

841
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: put down a race, all, hey, Martin might win for

842
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: the rest of the year. I reckon Philip Island's fairly

843
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,479
Speaker 2: high on the list.

844
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: I think you can add to your talents not only

845
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: body language reading but mind reading. Because that was what

846
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, what do you think

847
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: Joy Martin can win a race this year? But you

848
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: answered that straight away, you know, when you were talking

849
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: about Marco but Zechi there as well and saying you

850
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: know how good he is. It also made me think

851
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: Raul Fernandez this weekend, Oh yeah, it seems like he's

852
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: made a set. But then I've also heard that he

853
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: was like no, no, I mentally was there. It was just

854
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: working to get into this position. Was he the first

855
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: satellite team satellite writer to across the line? Phenomenal weekend?

856
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: But was this just because it was in a Prillier

857
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: suited circuit.

858
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: A little bit?

859
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: I mean, he's the overnight sensation that took four years

860
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: to come to fruition. It's funny is that came off

861
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: one of the great Moto two seasons and we've been

862
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: waiting for him to do anything in Motor TP Basically

863
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 2: since then last few rounds he's actually been really good,

864
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: and I think part of that is, Yeah, the Aprillia

865
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: is clearly I reckon. The Apprilli has made the biggest

866
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: step over the last probably six races relative to all

867
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 2: the other bikes, even the Ducati. Necessarily, I think Aprilli

868
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: has been extremely good. Isn't it so so much psychological

869
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: percentage of a rider's output is psychological in this game,

870
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: right he feels that the factory is listening to him,

871
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: and they're taking care of him, and they value him

872
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 2: as an asset, and certain guys just need certain things

873
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: to stimulate them or give them confidence, or to make

874
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: them feel wanted. He feels like a valuable writer in

875
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: that project right now. And isn't it funny how the

876
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: narratives changed with that particular team, because at.

877
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: The start of the year you were there in Thailand.

878
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: It's like, man I.

879
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Agura, this kid's aren't beelievable as a kid, he's a

880
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: twenty five year old. This Motor two champion guy's unbelievable.

881
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: How bad is Fernandez? He's been there for three years,

882
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: He's getting shown up by rookie. That thing has totally

883
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: flipped around. In the last probably four or five rounds,

884
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: A goura has really gone off the boil, and he's

885
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: also been injured. This is the best Ralph Fernandez we've

886
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: ever seen, and you know, I think I'm right to

887
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: be skeptical that I'd like to see it for a

888
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: bit longer because I don't one hundred percent trust it yet,

889
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: because it might just be a good run of a

890
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: few races. But what he did on the weekend, like

891
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 2: you saw him just outside the top five, hovering around

892
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: six seventh through the entire weekend. At no point did

893
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: I look at the timing tower and go, well, that

894
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: feels like a fluke. I looked at it and thought,

895
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: that feels legit. That feels absolutely where he should be.

896
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 2: He didn't owe to any great attrition or anything else.

897
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 2: He was just really really good. Not in a podium

898
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: position good, but certainly better than a lot of other

899
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: guys on better machinery. He was very very good this weekend.

900
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: And that's about three weekends in a row now, and

901
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: I've been on record for a while saying that I

902
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: think he's just overmatched as a MotoGP rider and probably

903
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: is He's had his chance and probably needs to be

904
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: moved on. But at the moment there's a nice slice

905
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 2: of humble pie waiting for him. Me if he keeps

906
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: doing this, and I shall gladly eat it if that's

907
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: what it comes down to.

908
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: And I can just see Brivio sitting back there being

909
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: like I told you guys, so, I told you so.

910
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: None of you listen to me.

911
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: He's the master at this though, is he? We shouldn't.

912
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: If there's any rule in motor GP, we should learn

913
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 2: don't doubt Daviadeo Brivio because he has the touch with

914
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 2: these guys that you think back to Vignalees and Rins

915
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: before he got injured and Chuan Mira. You know, no

916
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: one when when Juanma came into motor GP. I don't

917
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: think anyone was saying, oh, yeah, that guy's.

918
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 3: Gonna be a world champion.

919
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: He's so good at spotting these guys. He's probably the

920
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 2: best in the business at doing it. So if Davadao

921
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: Brivio says that you're good at something, we probably should

922
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 2: just nod our heads and say, yes, okay, David Day,

923
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: we believe you.

924
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: So maybe that's the lesson in all of this.

925
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: Maybe it is. But before we wrap up Motorgib, because

926
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: there has been so much to talk about these guys

927
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: this weekend, I want to bring up Pedro Acosta double

928
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: podiums for KTM and I think I messaged you yesterday,

929
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: Matt going, when was the last time that Pedro was

930
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: on the podium on a Sunday? Thailand twenty twenty four. Yeah, Thailand,

931
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: it was two hundred and sixty something days since he

932
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: was on a podium on a Sunday. But my question

933
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: to you, is this Pedro Acosta back or is this

934
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: because Bruno's circuit haven't been there in five years? Everyone

935
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: was on an even playing field. Circuit's been resurfaced, which

936
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: made me think less chatter for the KTMS, which I

937
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: think is why we saw an Abashanini up the front

938
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: Pedro Costa. You know, like, is Pedro back or was

939
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: just situations aligning? The stars were kind of almost in

940
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: that perfect line for him.

941
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon, if I'm going to split this percentage,

942
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: wasn't going to go forty sixty. I was gonna say

943
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: thirty seven sixty three just to be stupid, But I

944
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: was say forty sixty Pedro was better. Clearly look at

945
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: what the other ktms were doing. Seeing an AA Bastianini

946
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: fighting for something meaningful is like, where have you been

947
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: all season? Because we've not seen that. And the other

948
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: one for me, Paul Spargo, who's in there as an

949
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: injury replacement for Maverick Vinales and he's finishing in the

950
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: top ten in the Grand Prix and he hadn't ridden

951
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: since Migello last year. And Pole's very good. Pole's a

952
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: very very good Grand Prix rider when he was in

953
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: his heyday. But it's a sure sign how good that

954
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: bike is when you can get a guy who's not

955
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: raced all year and then he's up there in the

956
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: top ten. He was incredibly impressive and without sort of

957
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: dissing Pole and how good he is. If you can

958
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: come in effectively off the bench with a week's notice

959
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 2: to replace an injured rider in Maverick Vinales, it shows

960
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 2: you that the combination of that bike and that circuit

961
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: married really well over the course of the weekend. So yeah,

962
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: A Costa was better, but I think KTM as a

963
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 2: whole was better. And the thing I kept thinking about

964
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: when I saw a spargo randomly is that Vinales has

965
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: been the best. He's not scored the most points, but

966
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: I think he's been the best KTM rider of the

967
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: four for the entire season, and we know that Maverick

968
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: has those weekends where he can be pretty awesome. I thought,

969
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: man a fully fit Vignales on a really good KTM

970
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 2: at a circuit that seems to suit it to my mind.

971
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: He's probably sniffing around the same sort of area that

972
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: a Costa is, and maybe even better. So yeah, look,

973
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: a Costa was clearly better. We needed him to get

974
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: back on a podium because it had been, like you said,

975
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty something days and we'd almost forgotten

976
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: what it was like to see him up there. But

977
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: I think KTM on the whole was much better, and

978
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: you know, they showed up a couple of the deucaddies.

979
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: Whether it's circuit specific one off or not, we don't know.

980
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: But of course the next round, once we eventually get

981
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: back after the break, is Austria, right, So if ever

982
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 2: a Red Bull backed KTM team needed a good result,

983
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: it's probably at the circuit that underwrites the entire show

984
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: for the weekend.

985
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: So let's see if that one lasts.

986
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, certainly good signs for them.

987
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: Well, I was reading articles in the build up to

988
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: the Grand Prix even after of Peguacosta's saying about how

989
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: he it's been feeling like fire was his words, and

990
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: I guess that's translating is the anger possibly or just

991
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: the frustration that he's been dealing with at KTM. But

992
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: how he goes this podium, this double podium as well,

993
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: and how beneficial and important that was. But that's one

994
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: thing that you just said that Pedro mentioned. He goes crucially.

995
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: Our next race after some break is the Red Bull Ring.

996
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: It's our home Grand Prix, right, we need to be

997
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: strong there and I think that confidence coming through from

998
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: this weekend to there is going to be so beneficial.

999
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: But talking about Paula Spargaru, he beat Brad Binder and

1000
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: Brad Binda was the winner here back in twenty twenty,

1001
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: So what is this saying about Brad and his year

1002
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: that he's having with the KATM.

1003
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: He's lok being maybe other than Bastian and he probably

1004
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: the most disappointing guy this year because you look at

1005
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: the past few years with Binda, he's just he was

1006
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: always that guy there that would pick up the crumbs

1007
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: if anyone drop the ball. He's just been like a

1008
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: permanent top six championship finisher for years now. He is

1009
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: no we are near that this year. I think he's

1010
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: something got twelfth in the world championship standings, as I

1011
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: call up my pdf here on a live podcast, which

1012
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: is always good, Yes, twelfth, I was a good guess.

1013
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, look, he's just been kind of anonymous the

1014
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: entire year. And the stat that's really alarming for me

1015
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: is he hasn't out qualified a cost of once this season,

1016
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: if you can believe that. And this is a guy

1017
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: who we know binds not a fantastic qualifier, but he's

1018
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: a good racer, and neither of those things has happened

1019
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: for him this year. So he's kind of been a

1020
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: bit a woll this year. It was interesting on a

1021
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: weekend where all the other ktms had reason for optimism,

1022
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: there wasn't a heap to be optimistic about on that

1023
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: side of the garage. When you think he was going

1024
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: back to the track where he won his first gron

1025
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 2: PRI back in twenty twenty.

1026
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's wild to me. I just couldn't believe it.

1027
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: But the fact that Paul's barger a top ten. I

1028
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: was writing that graphic and I did it before the

1029
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: whole firmin Al Deger penalty. Everything came through, and I'm like,

1030
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: tenth tenth for Paul, that's crazy. But who actually did

1031
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: get ten for the end. After we had that, and

1032
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: I'd gone to bed because by this time it was

1033
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: like one am, and you know, we got to get

1034
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: up for a Monday morning to come back to Fox

1035
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: Sports and work Jack Miller. So thankfully from Furman's penalty

1036
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: that Jack then was able to scrape through a top

1037
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: ten finish. But the Yamas they struggled here, huh. Like

1038
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: in the race qualifying Fabio, he was front from yeah,

1039
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: and you could see it as they took off, especially

1040
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: that main race. You see that you caddies. The Aprilia

1041
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: is just grow straight pass and then he comes off

1042
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: Fabio on the Yamaha. It's crazy the difference, right, So

1043
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: over a one lap they're good, but it's it's that

1044
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: when the new engine comes it's going to be phenomenal.

1045
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: Hopefully that it works.

1046
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it doesn't get off the line

1047
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 2: very well. It's the probably the worst bike in Motor

1048
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: GP in terms of getting off the line and the

1049
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: biggest problem that bike has.

1050
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 3: It's amazing in.

1051
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 2: Corners, but it can't it can't outdrag anything on a straight.

1052
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: And so this is where I feel a little bit

1053
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 2: sympathetic to Quaturo this year, in that the pole positions

1054
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: he's taken this year, I'm not sure there's any other

1055
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: rider on that bike that could have done those up.

1056
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: He's phenomenal on one lap with the risk he's able

1057
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: to take and the positions he puts himself in, but

1058
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: it makes it look even worse for him, where the

1059
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: natural order of that bike is probably finishing somewhere between

1060
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: sixth and tenth on a good day, and you look

1061
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: at the starting and finishing positions a lot, well, that

1062
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: looks really bad because he qualified on pole and finished eighth,

1063
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: but eight is the realistic result. Pole is not the

1064
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: realistic result. And a little spoiler alert for your spoilm

1065
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: own story here Wednesday, Australian time. Tomorrow, I'm going to

1066
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: be releasing my top ten Riders of the Season rankings,

1067
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: which I do every year, so people can yell at

1068
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: themselves or yell at me, or yell at somebody. That's

1069
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 2: the way these things tend to work, and no spoiler

1070
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: or alert to know who's going to be the best

1071
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: rider of the first half of the season. I think

1072
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: we covered him in the first fifty minutes of this podcast.

1073
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: But Quatauro is one of those guys that's really really

1074
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: hard to assess where the best to put him in

1075
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: these rankings. I don't think his championship position reflects how

1076
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: good he's been. And you can only judge someone based

1077
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: on the equipment they have at their disposal, and it's

1078
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: hard for me to imagine that someone could have done

1079
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: much more with the equipment that he's had this year.

1080
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: I think he's reminded us this year why he's a

1081
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one world champion and why, to my mind,

1082
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 2: I think he's still the second best rider at Motor GP.

1083
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: I just hope that at some point we get to

1084
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: see it.

1085
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, this circuit just had no way of showing that.

1086
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: When there's a part of the circuit called horsepower here, yeah,

1087
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: good luck with that, and it's a Yamaha like, yeah,

1088
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen, But I'm interested to see

1089
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: your top ten. So if you guys also want to

1090
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: check out Matt's top ten that'll be on Fox sports

1091
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: dot Com to aufd slash Emotorsport, and you'll find that

1092
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: on our social media channels as well. Might even throw

1093
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: throw my pick in there too, so we'll see how

1094
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: that goes. See if it's different. I said to Matt, though,

1095
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be more on vibes and less

1096
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: on statistics because that's why we work well with each other.

1097
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 3: Vibes plus stats and do you get the right result

1098
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: of the yeend.

1099
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: That pretty much sums up though the whole Moto GP

1100
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: weekend from the Czech Republic. Now, we had a lot

1101
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: to cover there because, like I said, the writers haven't

1102
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: been there, Motor GP hasn't been there since twenty twenty.

1103
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: Let's also go through the Aussies like we do. Moto

1104
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: two Senate ages, he struggled. I saw in his post

1105
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: race that he had issues on his bike from lap

1106
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: one so only managed to cross the line or p

1107
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: fifteen finished, But hey, another point in the bag, right,

1108
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: and Senate, it's only his second year. It's still about learning,

1109
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: still about being consistent, hopefully as he comes back from

1110
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: some break head back to the Red Bull Ring a

1111
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: circuit that and he's ridden a lot more than we

1112
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: know he has done it in the Czech Republic so far.

1113
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: He's having a strong year, right and we say this

1114
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: every weekend. He's having a strong year for his second

1115
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: year in the World Championship.

1116
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, I mean, I think if you were to

1117
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: look at where he might be based at the start

1118
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: of the year compared to where he is at the midpoint,

1119
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: I would say he's ahead of schedule right now. He

1120
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: won that Grand Prix Silverston, he's been on the podium

1121
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: in other rounds. He's probably in a better position than

1122
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: we would have thought he was going to be at

1123
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: the beginning of this year.

1124
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 3: And as long as the.

1125
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: Arrow keeps going up and we know where it's going

1126
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: to be next year, he's already resigned for next year,

1127
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: So look a quieter round in the Czech Republic. There

1128
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: was circumstance and you could understand why that happened. But

1129
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: on balance, I think he's first half of the year

1130
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: it's slightly more than half, isn't as twelve out of

1131
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: twenty two whatever that is, his first half of the

1132
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: year's been better than probably we would have thought coming

1133
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: into it.

1134
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: So big tick for him, I think, and.

1135
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 1: Quite rounds let's say that for our Aussies in Moto three.

1136
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: Because Joel and Jacob both had massive crashes this weekend.

1137
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: We know Joel was declared unfit for Sunday's race due

1138
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: to a fracture in his right foot from Saturday, but

1139
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: also Jacob he had a massive crash as well. I

1140
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: just don't think he fully recovered from that. He also

1141
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: said that he just struggled this weekend, but he crossed

1142
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: the line in fourteenth, So two points in the bag

1143
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: for him. Now, Jacob's season so far, we know he

1144
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: had that crash in the off season that has taken

1145
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: him a while. But I don't know he's struggling. And

1146
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: I also know he's got depression now of he hasn't

1147
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: got that right for next year and we're coming into

1148
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: the some break right that's going to be weighing on

1149
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: his shoulders also, Yeah.

1150
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 2: Needs I think he needs a break in, a reset,

1151
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,959
Speaker 2: and he needs probably you know, we talked about those

1152
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: races before Motor GP heads out of Europe. I think

1153
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: there's no formal before we head out. Those four need

1154
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: to be good, don't they, you know, to we need

1155
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: to there's a new circuit in there of course as well,

1156
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: with Hungary coming in. But those four races before we

1157
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 2: leave Europe and a lot of decisions are made pretty

1158
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: big four races for him. We know that he's best,

1159
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: is good enough, we've seen that, but it's been a

1160
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: real sort of stop start year because of injuries and

1161
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: some form.

1162
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 3: Stuff and a couple of crashes.

1163
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 2: But as far as Joel goes, I do wonder how

1164
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: much of the decision. I mean, obviously it's taken out

1165
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: of his hands to a degree, and that you've got

1166
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: to be past fit to race, but the fact that

1167
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: we've got four weekends until the next Grand Prix, like,

1168
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: rather than risk it and do something at Bruno when

1169
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: you're not quite right, he gets that extra time out

1170
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 2: and doesn't hurt himself anymore, and he can get himself

1171
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: right for Austria. Because the thing with this back half

1172
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: of the season, we describe it as being a back half.

1173
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: We don't go racing again until the middle of August.

1174
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: These last ten races are packed into just under three months.

1175
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: It goes super fast from here because we've got basically

1176
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: five double headers.

1177
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 3: The rest of the way.

1178
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: It's double headed, double headed the rest of the way.

1179
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: The end of the season comes really really quickly from here.

1180
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: Now's not the time to be carrying a lingering injury

1181
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: because you know, effectively the second half of the season

1182
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: happens in about twelve weeks or so, so.

1183
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: You've got to be right for that.

1184
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're thinking long term here, right, because like

1185
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: you said, you've got to get the season done. So

1186
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: I think from Joe Okay being declared unfit help. But

1187
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: I also think, you know, taking that extra we can

1188
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: and getting back stronger so you can come in, like

1189
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: you said, and not have something longer because he's I

1190
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: think he's in the top five in the points of

1191
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: the championship. I haven't, but I know obviously Ruaida was

1192
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: his main title opponent that he was fighting for. I

1193
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: think he got overtaken I heard on the broadcast. But

1194
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: if Joel's going to have any chance of fighting for

1195
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: this or getting that first win this season, he needs

1196
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: to be strong for the second half.

1197
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's some good tracks for him in the

1198
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: back half of the season as well, So he's going

1199
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 2: to finish higher in the championship than he has finished previously.

1200
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: We know that based on what he's done, but you

1201
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: know that there'll be give him half a sniff and

1202
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: there's going to be an opportunity for a home win.

1203
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: I love the fact that.

1204
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: He's approached Australia the way he has the past few years,

1205
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: and that, you know, like pressure is a funny thing

1206
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 2: for a home rider, right like some guys wilt under it.

1207
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: Some guys find all.

1208
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: Of the stuff outside of the track and the commitments

1209
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: and the appearances and the attention. It's a little bit

1210
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: much compared to some of the other races where he

1211
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: can sort of just be in your own bubble and

1212
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 2: do your thing. Joel's just like, bring it on, I'll

1213
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: sign everything, I'll take a selfie with everybody. He's right

1214
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 2: there for it and loves being in the center of it.

1215
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: It's no surprise that he's done well here in the past,

1216
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: so I reckon that's one that will be circled. And

1217
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: as if it's like every other Philipilon weekend, there'll be

1218
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 2: about one hundred and twenty people from Joel's family. He'll

1219
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: be turning up at the same time, so he might

1220
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: not get any sleep until he gets on the plane

1221
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: going back to Malaysia.

1222
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: I know you're the stats man, But I just pulled

1223
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: up the championship standings for Moto three because I just

1224
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: want to clarify. So Joel Kelso he has moved back

1225
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: to six. He's on one hundred and ten. Now he's

1226
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: thirteen points behind Munyo's that's who overtook him. I remember

1227
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: now Matt saying, and he's one hundred and eighteen behind Ruaida. Okay,

1228
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: but I think for Joel to get like fight back

1229
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: and be in that top five at the end of

1230
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: the year in Moto three, that's phenomenal when you're looking

1231
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: at in the first five is Spanish Spanish, Spanish Spanish.

1232
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 2: Well and also because of just how deep that field

1233
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: is now, Like you look at Moto three these days

1234
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: and you scan your eyes down those championship standings and

1235
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: you have to go a long way down before you

1236
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 2: find a reason to not think a guy like a

1237
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: winner Grand Prix, like it's a super even field at

1238
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: the moment, it's really deep. So for him to be

1239
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 2: paddling in those sorts of waters away from home with

1240
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: a whole imata of Spanish writers against him, yeah, he's

1241
00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 2: doing really well.

1242
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: Now most of the riders are going to go on

1243
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: their three weeks or four week in Joel's case, so

1244
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm a break. But for a few of them are

1245
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: Moto GP and one writer who we briefly mentioned but

1246
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: I want to talk about again, Jack Miller. He's going

1247
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: to make his way to Japan in August for the

1248
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: Suzukah eight Hour, one of the most prestigious motorbike endurance

1249
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: races that there is on the calendar, and to be

1250
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: invited to do that as well by Yamaha. In Jack's case,

1251
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: I thought it was really really interesting. I mentioned it

1252
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: in previous pods. But Matt, I wanted to ask you

1253
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: about the rumors circulating Jack Miller at the moment and

1254
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: potentially going to the Factory team alongside Fabio Kudura and

1255
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: replacing Alex Rinz. That's the latest rumor that we've been hearing.

1256
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 1: What have you heard? What's your thoughts on that?

1257
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: The Alex Rinns problem, and it is a problem for

1258
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: Yamaha now because Fabio Couaaterero is kind of a one

1259
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: rider team there with that Factory team right now, because

1260
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: through absolutely no fault of his own and through no

1261
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: lack of effort or commitment on Alex's part, he hasn't

1262
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 2: been the same rider since Magello twenty twenty three when

1263
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: he had that really really bad league break. He's just

1264
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 2: not the same rider. And we know a fully fit

1265
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 2: Alex Readings is a really really good Grand Prix racer.

1266
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: We saw what he did at Suzuki. He won a

1267
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: race on NELSI R Honda. He's an absolute top shelf

1268
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: motor GP rider when he's fully fit. The keywords in

1269
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: that sentence are when he's fully fit, because he hasn't

1270
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: been for so so long now, and this feels like

1271
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: a sort of career cul de sack that he's gone

1272
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: down now that I find it really hard to imagine

1273
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: that he's going to turn it around, not because he's

1274
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: not trying and they're trying to do everything to help

1275
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: him do that. It feels like that ship has sailed

1276
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: a little bit in terms of where he is physically.

1277
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: The gap between him and Couato in every single session

1278
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: on the Stopwatch and then in the standings is pretty

1279
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: stark right now. It's interesting to me that Jack is

1280
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: being linked with that seat alongside Quasurero simply because I

1281
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: think when they formed the whole Pramak Yamaha thing. It

1282
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: was very much supposed to to be a developmental team

1283
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: of let's bring guys in and see if they're up

1284
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: to it, with the logical progression the graduation, if you like,

1285
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: to the main team. That was kind of why this

1286
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: team was established, if you like, to bring Yamahara into

1287
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Speaker 2: line with having four bikes like a lot of the

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Speaker 2: other manufacturers, but also to use it as a bit

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Speaker 2: of approving ground for riders who can then potentially step

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Speaker 2: up to the main team. And the analogy here. To me,

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Speaker 2: this always sounded a bit like a four wheel thing

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00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: for me, in that it's like the two red Bull

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00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: teams in Formula One and that you have whatever they're called.

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00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: They're called racing balls. This year they were called Alpha,

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00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: Tauri and RB and a million other terrible names. But

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Speaker 2: that team when they were called Torosso that was basically

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00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: where they'd bring in all these young rookies and see

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Speaker 2: if they sunk or swam. So guys like Sebastian Vettel

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Speaker 2: started there, Max to Stappan started there, Daniel Ricardo started there.

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Speaker 2: The ones that were really good graduated up into the

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Speaker 2: main team and then did what they did in the

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00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: main team and the ones that didn't quite stack up

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00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 2: were cast to the side and the next new group

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00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: would come in. And so if Miller was to move

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Speaker 2: to the factory Yamaha team alongside Quatrero, you've got an

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Speaker 2: absolute a listor in Quatrero with someone who's super experienced

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Speaker 2: like Jack Is, who's really good at sorting out new

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00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: things on a bike and will be quick enough that

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Speaker 2: you'll really get a translation of what Yamaha are bringing

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Speaker 2: to the bike that I don't think Rins can provide

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Speaker 2: right now. It doesn't feel like he's physically capable of

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Speaker 2: doing that. And then that would leave Pramack to probably

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Speaker 2: run with perhaps an LL rookie lineup for twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six with topre As Gatalioglu and perhaps the Yogo Marrera

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Speaker 2: and Marera. Is the interesting one in that we know

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Speaker 2: Brazil's coming onto the calendar for next year.

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Speaker 3: It's clearly a.

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Speaker 2: New burgeoning market for motor GP. You can imagine the

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00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: ticket sales of the attendance and the sponsor interests and

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00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: everything else when we go to go on to next year,

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Speaker 2: So that's super interesting for me. He's also the right age,

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00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: he's super young. We don't know what his story is

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00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: yet and the raz Gataliol Blue thing. As exciting as

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Speaker 2: he is and amazing as he is to watch and

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Speaker 2: is dominant as he's been in World Superbikes, there is

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Speaker 2: an element of risk bringing him into Motor GP because

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Speaker 2: he's going to be a twenty nine year old rookie.

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01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: That's really unusual, right, So for all the will in

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01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: the world, he might be absolutely fantastic, and if he is,

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Speaker 2: then maybe he's the one that ends up in the

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Speaker 2: factory team. But it's one of those we need to

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Speaker 2: see it before we can say it. And he's going

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Speaker 2: to be a twenty nine year old rookie. And I

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01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: don't care how good you are in World Superbikes, you

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01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: are still a rookie in Motor GP. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of new things to get used to. He might be

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Speaker 2: so talented that he can just come in and make

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Speaker 2: it work from day one, and that wouldn't necessarily surprise me,

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: but I also think it might take him a little

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01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: bit of time. And so if you're looking at that

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01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: Pramak Yamaha set up as being the proving ground for

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01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: guys to go into the main factory team.

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01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 3: Jack Miller's motor.

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01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: GP career is kind of you know, the clock's at

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01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: quarter to twelve or ten to twelve. You know, we're

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01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: nearly at the end of the ball here. But he's

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01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: been around for a very, very long time. He's the

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01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: perfect second rider in a main team. We've seen that

1349
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: as recently as when he was at Decadie with Pacobana.

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01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: We saw the impact that he had there. It's kind

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01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: of reprising that role as Jack goes into the fire

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01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: or a few years of his career. But isn't it

1353
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: funny to think that two months ago we were talking about, Oh,

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01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: Jack Miller doesn't have a contract. Miguel Olivera does have

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01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: a contract for twenty six top racs coming in. Does

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01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: this mean the end for Miller? He might end up

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01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: being in a stronger situation now than he was even

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01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: two months ago. And you just look at it from

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01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: a statistical point of view, there's no case for Yamaha

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01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: to get rid of Jack relative to Olivera or anybody else.

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01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: It's fifty two points to six. It's twelve zero. Jack

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01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: leeds in qualifying for the season over's teammates. And someone

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01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: mentioned this and I forget who it was. On a

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01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: podcast I was listening to the other day, so apologies

1365
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: to whoever mentioned it. Jorge Martin scored more points in

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Speaker 2: one Grand Prix last Sunday than Miguel Olivera scored this year,

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01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 2: and that's a pretty damning statistic. So in terms of

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01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: do I think that Pramak are probably going to part

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01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 2: ways with Olivera, I would say almost certainly yes, But

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01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: I don't think it's necessarily a case of Jack staying there.

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01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: I think Jack might even have a chance of being

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: promoted up to the factory Yamaha team, because Yamaha has

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01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: this rins problem that won't go away. And as hard

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01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: as it is to say, I don't see how another

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01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: few races or even next year is going to change

1376
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: a story that we've been seeing for two years. It

1377
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 2: feels like Alex Rinza's physical decline is real, and maybe

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01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: that's the reason he gets shoehorned out.

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Speaker 3: Of that suit.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of speechless because I thought you were

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01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: just gonna be like, I reckon, Jack's going to move up.

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01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: But the fact that you've really thought about this in depth,

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01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: and my original thought was Okay, yeah, Jack will move

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01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,959
Speaker 1: up be a teammate to Corderrero and yes, top Racs

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01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: next year. I actually thought that they that Pramac would

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01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: bring Arbilino up because he's in their development team in

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01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: Moto too, right, But yes, Diogo Morera, we spoke about

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01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: this last weekend. Obviously he made that silly mistake, but

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Speaker 1: we've seen the consistency and Brazil coming back onto the

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01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: Moto GP calendar for the first time in forever. There's

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Speaker 1: a sales point to it as well, and that's the

1392
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: thing with motogib is not just always about what you

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: can do on the bike, it's also outside factors.

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Speaker 3: Well, another factor two.

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Speaker 2: We heard overnight Monday night Australian time there's going to

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Speaker 2: be an Argentinian Grand Prix in twenty twenty seven. We're

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01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: not going back to Turmas in twenty twenty six, but

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a race quite near Buenos Aires

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven. And we go to this new

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Speaker 2: regulation set having a South American rider on the grid

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: for a South American race. It sounds like a bit

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01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: of a no brainer to me, and imagine, well that's

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: going to do for tourism dollars and getting people through

1404
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: the gates and potential new sponsors for the sport and

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01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: so on and so forth. It sounds like a bit

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01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: of a can't lose, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it makes sense what you said actually makes sense.

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01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: It was different than what I had thought of my head.

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01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: But like you said, looking at the points, Fabric Cordoro

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01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: is currently ninth in the championship and one hundred and two.

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01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: The next Yamaha is Jack on fifty two, and he

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01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: is fourteenth, and then we go down to eighteenth and

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01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: it's Alex Rinz who's on the factory bike, and then yes,

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01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: all the way back down in twenty fifth is Miguel

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01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: Oliver who's only a head of so Chantre who scored

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01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: his maiden point, and Alicia swagrou So the numbers speak

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01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: for themselves.

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01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: What Kuatero has scored two more points and all the

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01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: other Yamaha riders put together, there's a step.

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Speaker 1: For you that just shows you what Cordero is like

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01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: as a writer and why he is number one at

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01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: Yama and why he deserves to be another world champion

1423
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: if he gets on that bike that can then go

1424
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: head to head with Marquez or twenty seven just sounding

1425
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: more and more exciting everywhere.

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01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 3: I cannot wait for twenty twenty seven.

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01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: I know we have to get through the rest of

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01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: twenty five and or the twenty six, but bring on

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01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 2: twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be fantastic.

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01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: Bring on twenty seven. And for those of you listening

1432
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: at home, bring on the Suzuka eight hour because we

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01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: have it on Fox Sports and KO. All of the

1434
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 1: action you guys can watch on channel five oh six

1435
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports and like I said, on KO Sports.

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01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: But from Matt Clayton and myself Ronita Vermulin, I think

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01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 1: that pretty much sums up the Czech Grand Prix. We're

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: not going to be having a summer break though. We

1439
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: are still going to be here bringing you guys as

1440
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: much morotog news as we can and maybe even a

1441
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: few guests along the way. But for now, if you

1442
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: want to keep up to date with all the latest

1443
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: MotoGP news, you can on our website, foxsports dot com

1444
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: dot Au, Forward Slash Motorsport, and also on our social

1445
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: media channels at Fox Motorsport everywhere. Like I said, from

1446
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: Matt Clayton myself, that is goodbye from now and we'll

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01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: be back real soon with more Moto GP. Pittalk