WEBVTT - #2096 Optimising Brain Performance - Dr. Denise Furness

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get are you bloody Champions. It's Jumbo, it's Fatty Harps.

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<v Speaker 1>It's doctor Denise, who's definitely not a jumbo, definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>fat from the thriving metropolis of Queensland, she joins us.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Doc, Hello, how are you. I know you've had

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<v Speaker 2>a very busy day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh busy day, back to back, back to back, but always.

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<v Speaker 4>Happy to be here and chatting with you, Craig Harper almost.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very glad, very glad.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm writing something because this is not great listing.

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize listeners. Cognebisi all right, because I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about something. So I'm going to give you the

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<v Speaker 1>heads up.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone. This is a little warning.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do about a six or seven minute

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<v Speaker 1>promo about a program we're doing, which won't be for

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<v Speaker 1>all of you. Of course, it'll probably not be for

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<v Speaker 1>most of you. It'll be for some of you. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried very hard on this show not to promote

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<v Speaker 1>or not to do ads, because ads kind of suck

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of I know we have you in build ads,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's how we hey for the show. But in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of me doing advertorials, I hate doing it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am very, very proud of this and excited about

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<v Speaker 1>this thing that Denise and I are doing. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to zoom through this you can and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a normal potty in about five or six or

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<v Speaker 1>seven minutes. But anyway, Denise and I, the lovely Denise

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<v Speaker 1>and I are running a program up in her neck

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<v Speaker 1>of the woods, to be specific, at the Mantra Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>in Malulabar on the Sunshine Coast. The program is called

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<v Speaker 1>the Reset Program, which is a little bit self explanatory,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll dive into it a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's this June. It's June, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still a way away June twelve to fourteen. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday night to a Sunday. Now, Denise and I

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<v Speaker 1>are going to give you a very brief snapshot of

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<v Speaker 1>what we're each doing. We're collaborating, we're working together. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea of her being the genetic wizard. What's a female wizard,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Let's just go guru, who's it s

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go with good educator, world authority, which is very true.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to just kind of play in the biological

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<v Speaker 1>space and the genetic space and the you know, learning

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<v Speaker 1>to love your body and look after your body space.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be a little bit of that, but

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<v Speaker 1>more in the headspace, mind state, brain space, behavioral self

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<v Speaker 1>regulation space. So we have a waiting list which is

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<v Speaker 1>currently open. The reason we have a waiting list is

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<v Speaker 1>because Denise, if I fuck something up, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Say Craig, you fucked this up. The reason we have

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<v Speaker 2>a waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>List is because we only have to have fifty spaces

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<v Speaker 1>fifty places. Obviously, it's an invert an in person event.

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<v Speaker 1>A few people have already said can we do it online?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, we're planning to do a few of these, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is our first one, but we're excited. We've both

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<v Speaker 1>been presenting forever. I've been presenting for forty years, Denise

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<v Speaker 1>not quite as long, but she's been presenting all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world in the last few years. She's high regarded

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<v Speaker 1>me not so much, but I'll go anyway. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have a weight list that you can go on to.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean that you're committing, that doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>you're obligated to do anything, But what it means is

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<v Speaker 1>if you go onto the wait list, then you are

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<v Speaker 1>first to be off at a place. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the wait list. We actually are going to launch

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<v Speaker 1>to the people in the wait list for about a

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<v Speaker 1>week before we open it up to the general public.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we launch the program and make ticketing available,

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<v Speaker 1>spaces available to the people on the wait list that

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<v Speaker 1>will not be known by the public until a week later.

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<v Speaker 1>People who sign up or people who get on that

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<v Speaker 1>weight list will get a significantly cheaper price if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to take it. But let me just remind you

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<v Speaker 1>that the.

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<v Speaker 3>Weight list really quickly. At the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 4>This is for you know, my people and your people, right,

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<v Speaker 4>we have people that are dedicated to your podcast. I've

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<v Speaker 4>got my people too that have been dying to see

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<v Speaker 4>me live. So for those of you that want to

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<v Speaker 4>get in, and as Craig said, obviously only fifty spots.

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<v Speaker 4>So giving you this information quick. But the other thing

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<v Speaker 4>is all the stuff that we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>really really quickly. Should we just mention this stuff just

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<v Speaker 4>what we might?

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say one more thing, so being

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<v Speaker 1>on the wait list is not an obligation.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you can be on the weight list and then.

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<v Speaker 1>When we make it live, you know, buy your ticket

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<v Speaker 1>by your place or you can go nah so there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's no hooks, catches or agendas. Once again. June twelve

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<v Speaker 1>to fourteen, the Reset Program. Denise and I, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we start with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to divulge too much, but just to

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<v Speaker 1>give you a snapshot everybody of where Denise is going

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<v Speaker 1>to focus, where I'm going to focus. I will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that it will be a very interactive if I'm there,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope fun experience. Denise's fun. I'm fun while I

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<v Speaker 1>try to be. I like you to in You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not university. This is, but it is. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a big focus on education and inspiration and helping

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<v Speaker 1>you operationalize your potential in a very real way. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not just going to talk at you for forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I want this to be the genesis for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you, the starting point for a lot of you

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<v Speaker 1>to do some big transformative work. That's what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>Depends what you want, doctor Denise. Tell us what you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be sharing on the weekend in June.

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<v Speaker 4>So I will be talking about biological age, and for

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<v Speaker 4>those that know what I do, I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 4>that for a long time all over the world. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be there talking about biological age, what speeds up aging,

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<v Speaker 4>and more importantly, what you'll probably want to know what

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<v Speaker 4>slows down aging. I'll be talking about nutrition. Obviously I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a nutritionist as well, so you know what of fads,

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<v Speaker 4>what's really going to move the needle from a health perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>as well as genetics, optimizing your genetics. You don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to have done DNA testing, but understanding and listening.

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<v Speaker 3>To your body.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's something that Craig and I talk

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<v Speaker 4>about all the time, is paying attention. We're often so disconnected,

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<v Speaker 4>so really just connecting with your body. What are the

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<v Speaker 4>priorities for you? So you're walking away at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of this knowing the action steps that you need to

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<v Speaker 4>take to improve your health because we're a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>different and learning about that. And as Craig said, yes, educational,

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<v Speaker 4>but there'll be interactive staff.

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<v Speaker 3>Craig's going to do the movement. You'll probably tell you

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<v Speaker 3>about that.

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<v Speaker 4>But of course we are fun too, a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>fun in the middle of all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we're not, maybe we just think we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do some movement stuff, which is all optional,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, everything's optional. I mean, I wouldn't pay

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<v Speaker 1>to go away for a weekend like this and choose

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<v Speaker 1>not to come to too many sessions would defeat the.

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<v Speaker 2>Point, I think. But in terms of the movement stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously my background is very much in the fitness exercise

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<v Speaker 1>movie in Space, owning gyms, working with elite teams, athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. So we're going to have optional fitness

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<v Speaker 1>and movement sessions, and probably every time we do a

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<v Speaker 1>session there will be a range of options, either two

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<v Speaker 1>or three options from easy ish too harder for people

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<v Speaker 1>who want to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. I'm going to rip.

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<v Speaker 1>Through what I'm kind of going to focus on, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're going to jump into a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to be exploring more.

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<v Speaker 1>Head stuff, mind stuff, understanding human behavior stuff, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of sociology.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I think the way that I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I behave the way that I do around

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<v Speaker 1>this person? Why do I tell myself stories of fucking

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<v Speaker 1>doom and gloom?

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<v Speaker 2>And what can I do about that?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I build a life and a life kind

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<v Speaker 1>of operating system that is a reflection of who I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be and how I want to be? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are my values? What's the shit that matters to me?

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<v Speaker 1>And how come I don't do that? How can I?

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<v Speaker 1>How can I behavior outlast my motivation because we all

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<v Speaker 1>get pumped and excited, we get in the zone and

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, fack, this is me, and then four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half minutes or weeks or days or whatever later,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not doing it, despite the fact that we said

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<v Speaker 1>we would be different this time. This is me, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my time to shine. And that's not a weakness,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a bad thing, that's a human thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>how do I actually build an operating system that means

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to keep doing what I need to do

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<v Speaker 1>to get where I want to go. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about human potential. What is your potential? What is

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<v Speaker 1>your capacity? What is your actual ability and potential and

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<v Speaker 1>capacity versus what you think because they are vast most people,

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<v Speaker 1>in my experience, my four decades of working with humans

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<v Speaker 1>face to face, my experience is that most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a fucking clue as to how capable they are.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to explore capability potential.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about what success is for you,

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<v Speaker 1>not globally but personally, like what matters to you and

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<v Speaker 1>why we're going to talk about a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the way we see ourselves in the world, about the

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<v Speaker 1>way we see others, how we understand, how others think.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about objective and subjective reality, what's

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<v Speaker 1>actually going on, like what's going on? And then what's

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<v Speaker 1>my version of what's going on? And is that empowering

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<v Speaker 1>me or disempowering me. So it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice synthesis between psychological, emotional, physiological health, and most importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>we both want to kind of empower and encourage you

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up the you know, the cricket bat and

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<v Speaker 1>run or whatever metaphor you want to use, following the

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<v Speaker 1>program so.

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<v Speaker 3>And having steps right, practical steps that you walk away

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<v Speaker 3>with so you know where to focus. You know, is

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<v Speaker 3>that focus going to be?

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<v Speaker 4>You really need to start prioritizing more of that exercise

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, why are you doing it? The sleep,

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<v Speaker 4>the nutrition, you know, a lot of you might know

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<v Speaker 4>all these things that you should be doing, but prioritizing.

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<v Speaker 3>Listening to your body and working out why aren't I

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<v Speaker 3>doing that?

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<v Speaker 4>And what do I need do and walking away with

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of a plan, So you are prioritizing the

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<v Speaker 4>most important thing that you want, because we're all a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit different. One thing we're not doing is giving

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<v Speaker 4>a protocol. We are teaching you the tools, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Practical things you can do, and then you do what's

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<v Speaker 3>right for you.

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<v Speaker 4>And as Craig said as well, we do hope you

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<v Speaker 4>come along for all the sessions, but you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 3>This is your.

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<v Speaker 4>Journey and if you want to go off and go

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<v Speaker 4>for a walk on the beach, go for it. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to be there and grab every bit

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<v Speaker 4>of information and hang out with us the whole time,

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<v Speaker 4>we would also love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the overarching question without getting Dr Denise's permission

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<v Speaker 1>on this would be something like, in the context of

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<v Speaker 1>my life, my dreams, my goals, my needs, but how

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<v Speaker 1>do I manage me optimally? I think we're not particularly

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<v Speaker 1>good at managing ourselves. Some of us are, some of

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<v Speaker 1>us not so much. Sometimes I'm a superstar, sometimes I'm dogshit.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do I get better? I hope no new

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<v Speaker 1>people listening to this, they're like, I'm definitely not going

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<v Speaker 1>for that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, there, we know.

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<v Speaker 3>I would not say that about yourself. You are not dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, also, I probably should have said this. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go on the wait list, go to craigharper

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<v Speaker 1>dot net and that'll just you know, Denise's listeners, my listeners, whoever,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can click on that and you'll see it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Bib Bobby Boo. We'll mention the deats, just the quick

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<v Speaker 1>beats at the end if you so care to hang

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<v Speaker 1>around for that long. Now let's do a podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask you before we went live. You said

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<v Speaker 1>to me, not in a siokie way, just in an

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<v Speaker 1>updating me way. I've had a big day. I've done this, this, this, this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went I started at four thirty and you're

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<v Speaker 1>my last commitment. And as i'm talking right now, it's

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<v Speaker 1>four o four, so I'm going to be done is

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<v Speaker 1>by four thirty four forty five. And one of my

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<v Speaker 1>my challenges is I'm not bad at it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a very common challenge. How do I how

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<v Speaker 1>do I try and maintain my focus and my concentration

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<v Speaker 1>and my energy and the quality of what I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>with my five pm person like you've got stuff till

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<v Speaker 1>seven pm tonight in or eight pm tonight in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 1>which is here right from early today.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like for a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of people, our challenge is how do I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>between eight and two, I'm fucking amazing, and then at

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<v Speaker 1>four I'm dog shit because I'm sliding into a coma.

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<v Speaker 1>There goes that word again. Apologies, hashtag not really. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your strategy for trying to keep your energy as much

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<v Speaker 1>where it needs to be as possible?

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<v Speaker 3>So a quick little break in between.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously I was ten minutes late coming onto the podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>as you know, and I said, sorry, busy day, but

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<v Speaker 4>I said I need five minutes, even though I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to come running in as I need five minutes, and

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<v Speaker 4>I did. I had a water, I just had a breath,

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<v Speaker 4>and I kind of just shook it all out right.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, I do need a break. You need

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<v Speaker 3>a little reset because you've just been thinking about one thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you've seen a patient where you've just had

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<v Speaker 4>this meeting, or to get out of that space. But

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<v Speaker 4>just giving yourself a little reset. Excuse the living there,

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<v Speaker 4>but just that small little reset. I can't lie though,

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<v Speaker 4>I would say that as the day goes on, sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>the energy is different.

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<v Speaker 3>What I do do and.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't do this successfully. I am going to be

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<v Speaker 4>very honest, is I do have planned breaks. I should

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<v Speaker 4>technically have at least half an hour between all of

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<v Speaker 4>my meetings and clients, and most of the time I'm

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<v Speaker 4>actually pretty good at it, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That half an hour is great.

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<v Speaker 4>I can make a quick smoothie or have a coffee,

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<v Speaker 4>or go out and pat the dog. That is so refreshing.

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<v Speaker 4>But today's been one of those days where I was

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<v Speaker 4>just a little a little bit over. But typically my

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<v Speaker 4>days are no longer back to back like this. I've

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<v Speaker 4>learned not to set my life up like this most

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<v Speaker 4>of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not Yes, that's great, you know, I think you'll

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<v Speaker 2>like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously, good personal trainers and there are good personal trainers,

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<v Speaker 1>great personal trainers, there are shit personal trainers, just like

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<v Speaker 1>in any industry or profession.

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<v Speaker 2>But the trainers that.

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<v Speaker 1>Work for me as honest as I can be or

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<v Speaker 1>as objective as I can be about my own stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't all amazing, but mostly they were somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good and I would say outstanding. But I always

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing that I had a conversation with every

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<v Speaker 1>trainer about was everybody's paying the same amount, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can't give somebody forty percent you at five pm because

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<v Speaker 1>you started work at five am and five am client

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<v Speaker 1>got one hundred percent you because they're not getting the

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<v Speaker 1>same value. So my question to you is doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be one hundred percent, but somewhere in the eighty

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<v Speaker 1>ninety hundred. How many quality sessions can you do per day?

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you can only do five great sessions, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to let you do six, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to let you do ten, and your threshold will build.

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<v Speaker 1>But I used to talk to them about this concept

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<v Speaker 1>called your shit threshold, and the shit threshold is how

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<v Speaker 1>much of a certain thing you can do before it

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<v Speaker 1>turns to shit. And so I know, for example, this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend that we're going to do. I know that because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a high energy presenter, you're a high energy presenter.

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<v Speaker 3>I am one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to talk about the program, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I need to manage me. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>if I go all right, I'm going to present from

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<v Speaker 1>here to here, then I'm having two hours where I

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<v Speaker 1>might hang around or I might sleep, like whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>need to do to be awesome for people for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say to my trainers maybe you do

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<v Speaker 1>four in the morning and then maybe you have six

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<v Speaker 1>hours off and maybe you do four in the late

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon slash early evening. But I don't want you trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do six or seven in a row if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do six or seven amazing sessions. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, in any job that's skill based or

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<v Speaker 1>people facing, I think trying to understand what is your capacity,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your threshold, because.

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<v Speaker 2>After a while, you do your you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's got a brand, whether or not you think it

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<v Speaker 1>might be just a brand within your team, but you

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<v Speaker 1>do your brand and your reputation harm if you can't consistently,

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<v Speaker 1>at least pretty consistently. Of course, people have good and

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<v Speaker 1>bad days, but over the for the most part, you

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<v Speaker 1>know can produce something that's at a reasonably high level,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you want to build a reputation as somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's great at what they do.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think this leads into more than just performing

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<v Speaker 4>or you know as a PT or me being a practitioner,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, seeing patients. It's coming down to managing your energy.

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<v Speaker 4>Then also just for your long term health because you

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<v Speaker 4>push yourself constantly.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I told you I have half an hour breaks.

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<v Speaker 4>That's because I've learned and I, like most people have

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<v Speaker 4>been through burnout.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, had an autoimmune condition, which no doubt came

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<v Speaker 3>for burnout.

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<v Speaker 4>So you need to manage your energy and work out

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<v Speaker 4>what's best for you whatever you're doing in life, whether

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<v Speaker 4>you're in corporate, whether you're you know, behind the counter

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<v Speaker 4>at the bakery or whatever. Maybe you need to have

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<v Speaker 4>a I don't know, you need to have a walk

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<v Speaker 4>in the morning, or you need to do something at lunchtime.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's managing your energy, not just so that you're

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<v Speaker 4>good for the person in front of you, but so

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<v Speaker 4>you're good for yourself so you actually don't feel exhausted,

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<v Speaker 4>so that you're actually not depleting yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's there's both ways.

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<v Speaker 4>It's showing up for that person but also taking care

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<v Speaker 4>of yourself because you know, what you and I do

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<v Speaker 4>creat is we're they're to help people be the best

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<v Speaker 4>they can be, you know, to to go and find

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<v Speaker 4>their dreams and their goals, and that it's never going

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<v Speaker 4>to happen when you depleted and you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Busy and you go, go, go, So you need those.

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<v Speaker 4>Little moments to re energize. And I only have two

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<v Speaker 4>big days a week. By the way, it's Tuesday Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>I would never usually do a podcast on a Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>That we had a chat yesterday about the program and

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<v Speaker 4>we were going to do the podcast. Moved it into today,

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<v Speaker 4>which was fine. I actually had a longer gap. It

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<v Speaker 4>was meant to be. But I have two big days.

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<v Speaker 4>My other days are not like that because I could

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<v Speaker 4>do every day like today. Otherwise I'd never show up

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<v Speaker 4>in that energetic way. But also I would burn out.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's understanding, what are our limits?

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<v Speaker 3>You know or not linkits? I know that's not a

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<v Speaker 3>good word, is it limits? But well energy managing energy, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have limits, and it's not bad things to

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<v Speaker 1>say we have limits. But like when so you presented

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<v Speaker 1>at the U Project. By the way, everyone, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do you Project conference this year if the old

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<v Speaker 1>docks available, although we can't fucking afford her anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a windshis didn't realize how much she was worth.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when I've I've done half day kind

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<v Speaker 1>of four hour gigs with seven hundred people where there's

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<v Speaker 1>no one else at that auditorium you spack spoke at

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<v Speaker 1>at Deacon.

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<v Speaker 3>University, the one I spack at.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the one you spack at. Thanks for picking

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<v Speaker 1>that up. Yeah, money, you can someone edit that out

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<v Speaker 1>to leave it. I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 4>We both people, we both are. We came into this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what you didn't mention. I'm just going a

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<v Speaker 4>little tangent here. I thought you were going to say

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<v Speaker 4>at the beginning of this podcast, because by the way

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<v Speaker 4>we both said, well we're going to talk about we'll

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, we'll just go with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were going to say when I.

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<v Speaker 4>Told her that I started at four and I was tired,

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<v Speaker 4>she turned around and said, well, I started at eight

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't finish till seven, Like it was a

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<v Speaker 4>competition between us.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think so, I think, but I think gone.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I was going to say, I I where you're

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<v Speaker 4>going with the long sessions too, not seven hundred people.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I spoke in front of ten thousand people

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<v Speaker 4>just in December, spoke at Longevity Fest in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 3>It was ridiculously huge.

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<v Speaker 4>But that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Only thirty minutes. Mind you, it's huge. It's full on.

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<v Speaker 4>It's full on, like the energy of those couple of

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<v Speaker 4>days is just in tense.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I was going to say is I've done

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<v Speaker 3>all day workshops, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, and I've gone to London, and it's a bit

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<v Speaker 4>nerve racking knowing that I'm on the other side of

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<v Speaker 4>the world and the next morning I've got to get up,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. It's the time difference in jet lag and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that. But I prepare again thinking about the energy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so mindful of having a quiet night, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>even if there is a dinner. So I do so

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<v Speaker 4>much of the international speaking and often they'll have a

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<v Speaker 4>speaker's dinner or people want to take me out, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually getting really good at saying no, even though

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<v Speaker 4>I'm at social butterfly and I love people and I

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<v Speaker 4>want to catch up with everyone. I know that if

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<v Speaker 4>I do too much, I then it does affect my

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<v Speaker 4>presentation in the sense that I'm more nervous because I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>A bit tired. I'm not feeling as prepared.

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<v Speaker 4>So I will generally always have a quiet night before

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<v Speaker 4>my presentation, and even if someone has put together a dinner,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just politely decline and say I'm sorry, I need

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<v Speaker 4>to just you know, I need to rest. So I

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<v Speaker 4>am more than ever very mindful of my energy. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's interesting because people always think I'm constantly high energy,

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<v Speaker 4>and I am. I'm an extrovert. I feed off other people.

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<v Speaker 4>I love being around people. But if I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>those moments to recharge I do, I get very depleted.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you doing for our day when you're well?

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<v Speaker 1>What I was going to say was, like you, I

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<v Speaker 1>do all day days work corporate, which are obviously fucking tiring,

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, it's not as emotional as when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>working with people who plugged into me, like they know me,

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<v Speaker 1>they like me, they follow me, they love the show

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<v Speaker 1>they and I feel like, you know, I reckon sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>in those seven hundred people events, I give three hundred hugs,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And so I go into that I can

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<v Speaker 1>do you know, four hours half our day ish and

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<v Speaker 1>be way more tired than when like I did one

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<v Speaker 1>recently for the Department of Justice, and I spoke for

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<v Speaker 1>about ten hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that was a ten hour thing, but with breaks

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever, and I was tired.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I'm totally plugged into a room where this

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<v Speaker 1>is not a corporate thing, where I've got to tick

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<v Speaker 1>all these particular boxes and meet all these corporate criterion,

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<v Speaker 1>don't say shit or fuck and don't do this, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know all that. Where you go and you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your job and I understand that and I can

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<v Speaker 1>do that. But I remember doing one of these half

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<v Speaker 1>day ones and I drove home and I was just smashed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I hadn't physically worked hard. I was just walking

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:57.439
<v Speaker 1>up and back of stay stage talking but yeah, that stuff, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So off the back of this, I had a question,

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<v Speaker 1>why why were you so hap for me? Just just emotionally.

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:07.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like I had that particular day.

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<v Speaker 2>We had.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I really would be guessing, but hundreds

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of people crying. M and then I see people crying,

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I get emotional and I'm like, you can't lose your shit.

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.120
<v Speaker 1>You're the fucking idiot up the front. Get it together,

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<v Speaker 1>get it together. And then that takes a lot of

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>self regulation. And I'm not embarrassed to cry. I've literally

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:29.439
<v Speaker 1>cried in front of hundreds of people.

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.639
<v Speaker 3>Mean too. But it's hard as a presenter. So I

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.120
<v Speaker 3>presented two days after my mom passed.

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<v Speaker 4>And believed it or I was talking about epigenetics through

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 4>the women's lifespan. It started through preconception, fertility, which is

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 4>where I started. It ended at Alzheimer's dementia and my

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 4>mom passed Alzheimer's dementia, and of course the organizers were like,

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 4>you don't have to come, and I was like.

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.720
<v Speaker 3>I'll be there. And I got right to the end, right.

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 4>To the end, and then I'm talking about dementia and

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 4>then I just you know, just almost like can't get

0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:02.879
<v Speaker 4>my breath. And then I told everyone and I'm crying,

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 4>and yeah, I mean it was good because I guess

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.120
<v Speaker 4>it was at the end. I didn't have to because

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 4>I've had another one that I'll tell you about where

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.199
<v Speaker 4>it was sort of earlier on. But I have to

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 4>say it took a lot out of me because I.

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't comfortable crying.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought my before that I'd probably never been emotional

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 4>ever on stage, and I saw myself as the expert.

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:22.880
<v Speaker 3>It's not who I wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 4>However, the feedback I got from that and years later,

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 4>people you know, doctors that were there or people just

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 4>going that was one of the most moving talks that

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 4>I'd ever heard, so I think people really loved that.

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<v Speaker 3>Side of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But then, of course, but a few years.

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<v Speaker 4>Later, similar thing when I started the healthy Aging study,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was starting to share the results from that.

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<v Speaker 4>That came off the back of my dad passing. Like

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 4>that sort of gave me a bit of the motivation

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.640
<v Speaker 4>to focus on all that stuff. A few things all aligned.

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 4>But I was talking about why I started the study,

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 4>and I was in New Zealand and I mentioned my

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 4>dad and I couldn't even believe it. I just started

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 4>crying at the beginning of the talk. But it was

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 4>it took so much energy to come back, like I

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 4>kept just trying to go, just get it together, just

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:07.199
<v Speaker 4>get it together. But yes, I've cried on stage a

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 4>few times now, and I have to say, even though

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 4>it connects with people in a way and they say

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 4>they love it, I don't like it. Like I come

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.680
<v Speaker 4>off stage going I wish I didn't do that. It's

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.639
<v Speaker 4>interesting how we do that to ourselves.

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I get it, but it just is what it is.

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll shut up after this and move on to a

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>new question. But one of my best friends died about

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>ten years ago now. But I had anyway, I had

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>a corporate gig. I had a corporate gig at two

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>pm in the city and my friend passed away in

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:47.400
<v Speaker 1>a car accident obviously totally unexpected, completely healthy, fit XAFL footballer,

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>helicopter pilot, film producer, superstar. Also two of his only

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 1>two kids passed away. It's the saddest thing of all time. Yeah, yeah,

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 1>so wife left with none of the men in her life,

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:07.160
<v Speaker 1>right and saddest, Like, I've never been to a funeral

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 1>like it. But anyway, So I found out that the

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>funeral was on the same day, but it was like

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:14.919
<v Speaker 1>two and a half hours before, and I'm like, well,

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll go to the funeral. The funeral will be an hour.

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll have at least an hour to get to the event.

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm on my motorbike, it's twenty minutes away. I'll get

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>my shit together, I'll have a coffee, I'll throw some

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>water on my face, I'll put on my big boy

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:27.640
<v Speaker 1>pants and I'll.

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Do the thing. Right.

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>So, the funeral starts late and it goes forever, and

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>it's still going like thirty minutes before I've got to present,

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm at least fifteen twenty minutes away on a motorbike,

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>so I you know, it's coming to an end. So

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't totally you know, horrible that I walked out,

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:57.159
<v Speaker 1>but so I had to leave, which obviously made me

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>feel shit. But there was literally three hundred people waiting

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>for me to talk of this thing. So I went

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>to this thing and same, I'm like, I started talking

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:12.399
<v Speaker 1>about something and anyway, I thought of my mate and

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>just like I just started losing it and I definitely

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>probably shouldn't have done the gig. And I just said

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 1>to everyone, I just paused, and I said, this is

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 1>on no level should you need to tolerate this right now,

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>but let me just briefly explain. And I told them

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 1>and they were just like your people. They were like,

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that's like, thank you for being vulnerable,

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>thank you for being honest. And it went better than

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>if I clearly I didn't cry for effect.

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and so I think people are very compassionate.

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 2>And I think when you're crying.

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Real, right, people like reality.

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 4>We have this world where we think we need to

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 4>show up in a certain way, but truth is, people

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.360
<v Speaker 4>people appreciate that because then all of a sudden they've

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 4>got a little bit of insight to you, and it

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 4>is it's so real.

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I have a question for you. We'll pause that. Thank you.

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know how much you ever think about this.

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 1>But out in the world of you know, superstar bloody

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>social media, people who are all promoting this gizmo and

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>that supplement and you know, this peptide and that whatever

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>off label, My patients come.

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Through it and go, what about this? I've seen this online.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 3>I pay two hundred dollars a month for this supplement

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff.

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so, I mean, I know, obviously, without naming anybody,

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I know lots of students, believe it or not, I'm

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>still a student who use neotropics, A nootropic just for

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>our listeners, essentially something that improves cognitive performance.

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've ever opened this.

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Door, but things like again, not a recommendation anyone at all,

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>but things like people use nicorette gum, so people who

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>don't even smoke, they'll use like a I'm not going

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to name doses or anything because I don't want to

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>direct anyone to anything, but they'll use.

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 3>There's good evidence for it though, and.

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, but so and things like modafinol, which is

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>an anti narcolepsy drug, which people use. Friend of mine,

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>fuck another friend of mine who passed away a couple

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>of years ago. Or a year and a half ago,

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>he was a pharmacist and he was all about it.

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, yes, it's not addictive, it's this and

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that and so other than my question, my.

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 4>Long whining because we don't necessarily want to be recommending them,

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 4>but there are others.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm just saying what people well,

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually asking quite a what's the word, like.

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 2>A morally grounded question.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>So we don't want people necessarily, definitely not at our

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:06.000
<v Speaker 1>direction or advice, taking drugs for their brain to work

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>optimally and to override their fatigue or whatever. And we

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>know sleep, and we know maybe a bit of caffeine,

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and we know not having too much chaos, and we

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>know a bit of music, and we know a bit

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of recovery. But is there anything that people can use

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>that is something in the ballpark of a natural supplement

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>or food or herb that has any kind of cognitive

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>enhancement effect.

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and we may have mentioned on a previous podcast,

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 4>but if we haven't, something that works really well for

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 4>me and what I probably should have done before the

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 4>podcast because it's so good with my.

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Clarity and my thoughts. El theanine is one of my favorites.

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 3>It's actually something that is more for when.

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 4>You're It increases the deep wave patterns in the brain.

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 4>So often people think about it with sleep because you

0:30:58.160 --> 0:30:59.719
<v Speaker 4>get a bit more deep sleep, but actually when you're

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 4>really dressed, or you're anxious, or you've got lots on,

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 4>which often happens when you're a bit tired, like when

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 4>we jumped on the podcast and we've had a million

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 4>things going on, elthenine just helps calm things down. But

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 4>it's not a sedative. It's actually not a sedative. It

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 4>actually helps with clarity. And when I love Healthanine before

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 4>I do presentations because I do always get a bit nervous.

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 3>People say you don't look nervous.

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 4>I am, But when I have Lthanine, I actually do

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 4>notice the difference. And as you were just talking about

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 4>all this is like why I didn't I have any

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 4>before coming on here, because it just helps me just

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 4>be a bit sharper with my with my thoughts. It

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 4>just takes a bit of that fuzz away. So I

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 4>love Lthanine. Another one is bu Copa.

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Can you eate one sec? I just want to before

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>we finish and go on. Is Lthanine an amino acid,

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:44.719
<v Speaker 1>it is it.

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a bit like that.

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 4>So, but it's coming from it's a plant extract, mainly

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 4>in green tea, and so you know, when people talk

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 4>about the benefits of green tea, they're often talking about

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, lthenine as well some of the antioxidants. But

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 4>in interestingly they think in plants. It's actually to help

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 4>with plants with a stress response as well.

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 3>So and then we take it.

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>So where one, I'm asking for me, not for any

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of our audience. So if I wanted to take it,

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, you know what I'm about. I'm

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>eighty kilos By the way, what how much would I take?

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Where do I get it?

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Is it a pill? Is it liquid? Is it? What

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 2>is it?

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:29.719
<v Speaker 4>So?

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Typically where do I get it? How much do I take?

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:33.959
<v Speaker 3>So you could pop in?

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 4>I always recommend at least chatting to a pharmacist, you know,

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 4>popping into the chemist. There's usually someone there that's knowledgeable

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 4>in all the supplements. So if you don't have a

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 4>health practitioner, chat to your pharmacist, ask them for LC

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 4>and they'll have a range of different brands, Lots of

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 4>different companies offer it, but at least if you're speaking

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 4>to the pharmacist, it's going to be a good one

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 4>that's TGA.

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 3>Approved in Australia.

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 4>If you buy something online, you just don't know where

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 4>it's from all that kind of stuff. So I always

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 4>think of about getting it from a practitioner, at least

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 4>that the pharmacists to start with, so you know you're

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 4>getting a reputable brand.

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>You also don't even know if you're getting what you

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>think you're getting, Like if you buy it online, I

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>forget the number, but it's very like if it says

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>one hundred milligrams of whatever, it almost never is because

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>there's no way for you to know unless you go

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>get it laboratory tested.

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Good luck with that.

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>There's no way for you to know if what it

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>says on the outside of the bottle or the packet

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>is what you're actually putting in your body one hundred percent.

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 3>And there are many studies where they've looked.

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 4>At supplements and there aren't the levels. Sometimes it's much less,

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 4>there's hardly anything. Other times it's much more. And what

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 4>you've got to be careful of is these brands that

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 4>we don't know, even if they've got fantastic marketing, they

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 4>can have what are known as excipients, other little things

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 4>fillers and stuff like that that actually aren't good for you,

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 4>so you want In Australia, we're quite lucky. We have

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 4>well lucky that could go off on a holidside that

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 4>I won't talk about.

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 3>The TGA. They could be a pain in some ways,

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 3>but they are quite strict.

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 4>So anything that has approval from our Therapeutic Goods Association.

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 4>So something stocked in a pharmacist, you know it's got

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 4>if they're going to have TGA approved things, so that

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:20.280
<v Speaker 4>we know that they've been tested, the ingredients are safe.

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean we're obous talking about then, and I'm telling

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 4>you about something, but there might be another product you're

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 4>looking at. So I would pop into the pharmacy. I

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 4>would chat to them and ask them, tell them you're

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.240
<v Speaker 4>interested in this product. They can tell you what brands

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 4>they have. From a dosic perspective, from the dosages are

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 4>one hundred or two hundred milligrams.

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:40.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be honest.

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 4>For you, Craig, who's really busy at exercising, you know,

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 4>you know your weight and everything, and also for me

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 4>personally when I'm really thinking about using it for performance.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't really get.

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 4>Those effects that I just told you about until it

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 4>hits four hundred milligrams. Now, I know that's a little

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 4>bit higher than what recommended, but often on the bottle

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 4>they're giving you just a little low dose.

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 3>But if you're doing it just for helping you with

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 3>your sleep, as I said, getting your deep sleep or

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 3>a bit of calming, that two hundred milligrams is enough

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 3>that if you're doing it because you're getting up and

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 3>you're doing a presentation, or you're in a podcast, or

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 3>you just really need to just get your head together.

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 4>You know you're at UNI, you're obviously finishing your PhD.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Then I would be going that four hundred milligrams. That's

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:27.240
<v Speaker 4>still not getting to a dose that's that's dangerous. But again,

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 4>don't take this from me. I would talk to your

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 4>health practition or the pharmacist. Get it from the pharmacist,

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 4>and know what they tell you for that specific product.

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Is something interesting. I read this the other day.

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 1>I just brought it up again on AI to try

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's a bit of discrepancy over But so these

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>are all university studies where they tested how much creatine

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>is in creatine gummies. And at least at least fifty

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>percent of the creatine gummies have no creatine.

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, so Creatin's obviously another one that's really good.

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Did I tell you about my story of trying to

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 4>have fifteen grams at one go and actually did it twice?

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 3>And both times I was not. I was like all dizzy.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 3>And have you had high dose creatine in one go?

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 4>I have it every day, every day milligram fifteen gram

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 4>sorry in one go?

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know, generally probably ten or twelve grams,

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>which is like two heaped teaspoons, but.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I've had twenty grams. Yeah. Yeah.

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.959
<v Speaker 1>But also I think, like everything again, everyone not a recommendation,

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and why would why do I take creatine?

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Not for you know, extra.

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Reps in the gym, although that doesn't hurt, But there's

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of evidence to suggest that, as Denise is suggesting,

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 1>there's a cognitive benefit, more like cognitive endurance and focus

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and clarity. Yeah, so definitely I find that. So it's

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>ironic that I used to take creatine because I was

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>a bullfed training Yeah, and now because I'm trying to

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>be less of a I'm taking creating.

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 4>I remember taking it and honestly, I could, you know,

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 4>run further, you know, when I was injured and.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Things like that.

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 4>I was a bit anti creatine for so long because

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 4>I was using it for the wrong reasons. I was

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 4>using it to push myself when I was already fatigued,

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 4>and because I did get something from it.

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 3>But I now use it for a different reason.

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 4>And I am quite a chat to my clients and

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 4>patients and say, we're not using this to increase performance,

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 4>particularly if you've got some health issues. We don't want

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.280
<v Speaker 4>you to overtrain because it's going to make things worse.

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 3>But from a cognitive perspective, the higher.

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 4>Dose it has been shown to cross the blood brain

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 4>barrier and be really helpful with cognition. However, this is

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 4>a reason why you should go and chat to your

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 4>farmer st or have a practitioner. Because even though I

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 4>hear these things on podcasts and there's all this stuff,

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 4>I had fifteen.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 3>So it said that it also helps.

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 4>Get rid of jet lag. Well, I am someone that

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 4>has jet lag all the time. So I got home, Great,

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to have my fifteen gram's going to get

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:01.479
<v Speaker 4>rid of my jet lag. No, I felt a little

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 4>bit dizzy. Is at the word, but just not right

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 4>in my head. And then i'd slight nausea and I

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 4>was like, I don't feel great. Interesting, and I thought, okay,

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 4>that's a one off. Don't judge it on one off.

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 4>So then I had at the second time felt exactly

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 4>the same. What I haven't done, though, is try a

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 4>different brand. So I'm using a high quality Australian straight

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 4>creatine powder. There's nothing in it's from a an Australian. Yeah,

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 4>I won't say the brands, but anyway, it is a

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 4>very high quality practitioner only actually not that you need

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 4>a practitioner only one.

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think there's anything nasty in it.

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.479
<v Speaker 4>But what I need to do, because it's been about

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 4>twelve months since I tried it, is get a different brand.

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 4>But I can have five grams. But again, the five

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 4>grams doesn't take away my jet lag. I don't notice

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 4>the cognitive stuff. Do you notice so with lth and

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 4>when I have four hundred milligrams, I personally works wonders

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 4>for me. Do you have fifteen milligrams order that high

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 4>dose of creatine.

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 3>And you notice it? You actually can feel the difference,

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 3>think differently, you're on your.

0:38:58.800 --> 0:38:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Show one hundred.

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like this is probably not true, but

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm a little bit smarter. But the

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>few times that and I've spoken about this that I've

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>likened this is a person who's never had a cigarette.

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>But the times that I've taken not a recommendation everyone.

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I've taken two milligram chewing gum, nicotine or nicorette or

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever at one hundred percent, I can absolutely tell. And

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.879
<v Speaker 1>it's not a placebo because I've done things before where

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 1>I knew it was going to work and I got

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:34.240
<v Speaker 1>fucking nothing. So my expectation doesn't necessarily create a response.

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:41.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, where So the funny thing is for me,

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:47.320
<v Speaker 1>it's about one and a half hours where everything's just clearer,

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>My recalls better, you know, my articulation of things is better.

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Bah bah bah. It's about an hour and a half

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 2>to two.

0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>So if I have say which I offer and have,

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I've got to speak at a function at night and

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been up since five and I'm.

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Speaking at seven thirty.

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, on a typical day, I'm just like

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>my brain's just putting itself to bed and just fucking

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>pulling the blankets up over its prefrontal cortex and going

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>giving a finger to the world, right, And yeah, so

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I will have as I'm driving in or maybe even

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe even five or ten minutes before I speak. I

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes will do that, and for me it works. Again,

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I do shit that works for me, like I had

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>two meals a day. I wouldn't recommend it to everybody.

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I haven't had a job for forty years. I wouldn't

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>recommend it to anybody now. And then I take a

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>bit of nicotine because it works for me. But you know,

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:49.959
<v Speaker 1>like I would say this year, not this year, because

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I've done you know, fuck all. But probably in the

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>last twelve months, I've done three bits of gum, So

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>this is definitely not a habit, right. And another thing

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that I've used, which I spoke about before, my dafinol,

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>which I've probably used six times in my life. But yeah,

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>again that's I don't even want to tell you on air,

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.720
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, that just is for me. That's a fucking

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>game changer. Yeah, like our game changer. That's why I

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>don't use it because I maybe have addictive tendencies and.

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, I could get used to this, and

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to so bad to be relying on it. Yeah, yeah,

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 2>and again. But the thing is, it's like, here's the

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 2>thing you're talking about. You had fifteen grams and cretin

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and you've got this response. I was saying, I have

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>fifteen grams. I have a totally different response.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I've given people who've never had careateine.

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, look, take this, that's like fucking thirty grams.

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd give them a bit of mine or whatever, and

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd take that and do like ten grams three days

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>in a row. And the first day they'd ring me

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and go, I've got a horrible fucking game. And it's

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>like it gives them a horrible gut. Say the next person,

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:09.320
<v Speaker 1>they do not even notice it, So it's it's less Well,

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>of course, it's about what we're putting in our body,

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's also very much about how our physiology interacts

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 1>with that whatever it is we're digesting, absorbing.

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 3>See, even something as basic as magnesium.

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.399
<v Speaker 4>You know, we can use magnesium as a laxative because

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 4>some people really gets their vowels moving.

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Some people.

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I have had little she was tiny

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 4>and ballet, professional ballet dancer, but she was having a

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 4>gram like so, you know, we're usually most magnesium supplement

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 4>about one hundred and fifty milligrams, so had her on

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 4>our whole gram, you know, over a thousand milligrams, but that's.

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 3>What she needed.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 4>She was stressed, she was a bit anxious, you know,

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 4>her level of exercise. That was really helpful for her.

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 4>But someone else would have four hundred milligrams and they

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 4>would get the runs. So you know, different people respond

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 4>in different ways. By the way, you know, a gram

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 4>of magnesium is a lot. I'm definitely not recommending that

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 4>that was a unique person in that situation. Definitely want

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 4>to be working with how health practitioner if you want

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.919
<v Speaker 4>to start to think about using things therapeutically high dose

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:11.359
<v Speaker 4>and most often I don't recommend high dose, but it

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 4>is important to note how we respond differently and when

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.359
<v Speaker 4>you see something online and you see what you were.

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Talking about the start.

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 4>If we go back to the question the social media stuff,

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.319
<v Speaker 4>it's not good for everyone. We're all different, and you

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 4>need to be really careful what you put in your body,

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 4>really careful and try to choose quality things, be confident

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 4>that you're getting what you're actually wanting, and the other one.

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I wanted to mention too.

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 4>If we're thinking about stress cognition is bu copa, and

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 4>that's often in some of the neotropics, and I do

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 4>give a nootropic kind of powdery teething to some of

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 4>my clients. They're worried about cognition and it's got bu

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 4>copa in it. And we have a lot of studies

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 4>with bu copa, again a herbal extract.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 3>A lot of the herbalist and naturopaths have been using it.

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 4>For a long time, but now it's becoming popular with

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 4>the cognition and I also so I'm interested in it

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 4>because there are some studies to show that it's helpful

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 4>with reducing cognitive decline, and that's obviously an area I'm

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:10.399
<v Speaker 4>interested in me being predisposed to Alzheimer's, But there's also

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 4>a lot of studies with stress showing that bu copa

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 4>can actually help people with just managing their stress levels.

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:18.799
<v Speaker 3>And I think often when we are thinking that we

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 3>can't get.

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 4>Our thoughts together and all that stuff, there is just

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 4>because there's this bit of underlying stress, So managing that stress.

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Obviously there's a lifestyle stuff as well, but if you

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 4>can take a supplement here or there that's natural, that

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 4>doesn't have side effects, that's not addictive. You're lcnin, you know,

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 4>a bit of creatine. If it works for you, work

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 4>out what dose is right, you know, be COPA or

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:38.800
<v Speaker 4>some of these things.

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we do have a lot of evidence that

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 3>they work.

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:46.839
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, so yes, and I think that, you know,

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking about one of my friends who

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I saw a dude on the weekend that's five to

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.479
<v Speaker 1>ten coffees a day. I'm like, dude, I would be dead,

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and he goes. I can go to bed with a

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and I sleep like a baby. Right.

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 4>And another one of my past another delizer of caffeine.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:09.399
<v Speaker 4>Some people are fast metabolizers of genetics. And these people

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<v Speaker 4>are actually known to often drink more coffee, but they

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 4>actually process it really quicker, quicker than there are some

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 4>people that just couldn't tolerate that much caffeine. It wouldn't

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 4>matter what they tried genetically, biologically, they're not able to

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<v Speaker 4>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was going to mention another friend who

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>has one and if they have two, they get anxiety.

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I'll have a second.

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<v Speaker 1>One, I'll be right, and then they just get anxiety

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and slight, and it's got to be one a day,

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's got to be early. I like, if they

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 1>have it at midday, they're fucked. If they have it

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 1>at seven am, they're all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So and of course I can't put everything onto genetics,

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 4>but I'm almost guessing their genetics.

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 3>And you should never guess genetics because you never know.

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.759
<v Speaker 4>But I would say that person is a slow metabolizer.

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 4>So there's a phase one enzyme called SIP one A

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 4>one one A two, and it metabolizes not there's sick

0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 4>one A two is ninety percent of the caffeine.

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 3>So some people are fast or slow that first.

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 4>Enzyme they whiz it through or they're really slow. So

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 4>if you whiz it through, but the slow metabolizers, it's

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.959
<v Speaker 4>going through slowly. And then we have another enzyme called

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 4>compt thattually helps us break down our adrenaline. And then

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:16.240
<v Speaker 4>some people are slow at breaking down adrenaline because caffeine

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 4>causes a bit of cortisol, bit of adrenaline.

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 3>So if you're putting that in, you're slow at the coffee.

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 4>And then you're also slow when it comes to clearing

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 4>your adrenaline. You're not so good with dealing with the stress.

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 4>It's all those things. And it's not just genetics. That

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 4>COMPT that I just told you about. That is the

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 4>actual enzyme that breaks down adrenaline. It relies on magnesium.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 4>You don't have enough magnesium.

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.800
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't work. That's why we give magnesium for stress,

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 3>big vitamins, all that stuff, all that fun stuff.

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel fifteen percent dumber every time I talk to you.

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:48.359
<v Speaker 1>But thanks, thanks for that. I'm not sure what you said.

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll have to ask chat GPT you later when I

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:55.319
<v Speaker 1>decode it. Now I'm kidding, you're great. Hey, everyone, just

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>remember so June twelve to fourteen, the Reset program Mantra

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Malulaba jump on the weight list if you want, of course,

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 1>go to Craig Harper or one word Cragharper dot net

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be launching the program officially in a week

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:14.799
<v Speaker 1>or two. But what that does is guaranteed, Well, it

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't guarantee you a spot. It guarantees that you are

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<v Speaker 1>in first.

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.760
<v Speaker 3>So you don't miss out. So you don't miss out.

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, you might because we've only got fifty spots. But

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I think, like what.

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.439
<v Speaker 2>We know, can I say now? I don't want to say,

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 2>we've got a fair few people on the waitlist.

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 1>But also what we do know about this stuff is

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that most times, like nine percent of the people on

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the weight list don't go through with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe eighty to ninety percent. It varies.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think we're going to have a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited. Dr Denise. Oh god, I need a

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>new tropic. It's but how I hope that the rest

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>of your night goes okay.

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I hope your brain works.

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad we had this conversation because I have

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 4>such a busy day and I initially didn't have the

0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 4>podcast sladed in here. I am going off to have

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 4>my LFA, I'm going to have some creatine. This has

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 4>actually made.

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Me go, yes, this is what I need to get

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 3>me through the next couple of hours. So thanks for that.

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Just remind me again you think I should have how

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:11.320
<v Speaker 1>much a day give or take.

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Elth and I, because you're using it really for the

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 4>mental clarity, I'd have four hundred milligrams.

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:20.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you're not a tracker, are you. You don't

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 3>track your rem or your deep sleep or anything.

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Nah. No, it would just give me more shit to

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:26.360
<v Speaker 2>worry about.

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I just go not fuck it. I would become like

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.479
<v Speaker 1>a fucking deer in the headlights. I'd just be looking

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>at that shit all day.

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:34.760
<v Speaker 3>I like it, to be honest.

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 4>The whoop gave me less anxiety because I labeled myself

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 4>as a bad sleeper.

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 3>And I realize I'm not a bad sleeper anymore. But

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 3>I've worked on sleep. Oh you know what I have

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 3>not told you.

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 4>We should have talked about this at the beginning of

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:48.359
<v Speaker 4>the podcast. Is getting excited and we're just about to

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 4>wrap it up after doing the last podcast with you.

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 2>We're not just about to we're wrapping it up.

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 3>After the last podcast. I said to you, I'm a

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:00.840
<v Speaker 3>good sleeper.

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm perimenopausal, and I'm this and I travel and I'm

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.359
<v Speaker 4>so amazing, and I work on my sleep. I for

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 4>the next couple of weeks was waking up at two

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:11.280
<v Speaker 4>in the morning, three in the morning, four in the morning,

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, what is that?

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 3>What is that?

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Anyway, Everything's back to normal, but isn't it interesting? Just

0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 4>don't get too copy anyone, because then life will just

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 4>throw something at you. And I don't exactly know what

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.320
<v Speaker 4>the difference was. I thought I'd nailed this sleep stuff.

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's hilarious. That's calm of kicking you in the

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:28.720
<v Speaker 2>sleep cycle.

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 3>It was it was like, don't get ahead of yourself. Girl,

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Like what I was going to say to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Settle down, professor.

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:37.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my whoo.

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 4>I track, and I know that I sleep well most

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 4>nights but the lth and if you are listening to

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 4>this and you do like that bit of data, actually

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 4>see if it works for you. Have it at night,

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 4>because I do get more deep sleep when I have

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:51.400
<v Speaker 4>the LC and and it's nice to be to be

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.080
<v Speaker 4>able to track these things. If you're not a tracker,

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 4>just pay attention to how you feel. Like Craig said,

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:56.760
<v Speaker 4>feels better with the creteen.

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm shutting up now. I can see you

0:49:58.480 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 3>looking at me.

0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Can I tell you something funny?

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.240
<v Speaker 1>As a host, one of the funniest things that guests

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:09.280
<v Speaker 1>say is if you are listening. I'm like, literally, everyone

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 1>that's listening is listening, and if they're not listening, they

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:18.239
<v Speaker 1>won't hear you. So if you are listening, listeners, I

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:21.160
<v Speaker 1>love that. Hey, how can people connect with you? Find you?

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like you're.

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Too busy to get back to people.

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<v Speaker 3>By god, I'm sorry everyone. I wasn't taking any patients

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 3>last year.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that there's a lot of people on the

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 4>wait list, but I'm doing a lot less international travel,

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 4>focusing on the business. Midyear, I will be trying to

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 4>open up a little bit. But obviously we've got the

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 4>retreat and doing a few in person events. So you

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 4>can look up my name the website and come over

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 4>to the Facebook group. I'm not doing as much in there,

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 4>but jump on the email list and see what's happening,

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:53.719
<v Speaker 4>or you know, jump on the weight list if you

0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 4>want to come to the Sunshine Coast and see us.

0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 3>In person, and if you don't, that's fine, we still

0:50:58.640 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 3>love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Also there might be some other stuff happening after

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 2>the weekend. We'll see.

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk off air. But you're the best. I'm the

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:10.760
<v Speaker 1>second best.

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:12.839
<v Speaker 3>Chuck out the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're not choking, thanks tooff We'll see you next time.