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Speaker 1: It's doctor Denise, who's definitely not a jumbo, definitely not

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Speaker 4: Happy to be here and chatting with you, Craig Harper almost.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm writing something because this is not great listing.

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Speaker 2: Everyone. This is a little warning.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do about a six or seven minute

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Speaker 2: It's this June. It's June, so.

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Speaker 1: It's still a way away June twelve to fourteen. That's

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Speaker 4: and I am. I'm an extrovert. I feed off other people.

439
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 4: I love being around people. But if I don't have

440
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 4: those moments to recharge I do, I get very depleted.

441
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Speaker 3: So what do you doing for our day when you're well?

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Speaker 1: What I was going to say was, like you, I

443
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: do all day days work corporate, which are obviously fucking tiring,

444
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 1: But for me, it's not as emotional as when I'm

445
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Speaker 1: working with people who plugged into me, like they know me,

446
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: they like me, they follow me, they love the show

447
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: they and I feel like, you know, I reckon sometimes

448
00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: in those seven hundred people events, I give three hundred hugs,

449
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Speaker 1: you know. And so I go into that I can

450
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: do you know, four hours half our day ish and

451
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: be way more tired than when like I did one

452
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Speaker 1: recently for the Department of Justice, and I spoke for

453
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Speaker 1: about ten hours.

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Speaker 2: Well that was a ten hour thing, but with breaks

455
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Speaker 2: and whatever, and I was tired.

456
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Speaker 1: But when I'm totally plugged into a room where this

457
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: is not a corporate thing, where I've got to tick

458
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Speaker 1: all these particular boxes and meet all these corporate criterion,

459
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Speaker 1: don't say shit or fuck and don't do this, and

460
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Speaker 1: you know all that. Where you go and you do that,

461
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Speaker 1: that's your job and I understand that and I can

462
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Speaker 1: do that. But I remember doing one of these half

463
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Speaker 1: day ones and I drove home and I was just smashed.

464
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Speaker 1: And I hadn't physically worked hard. I was just walking

465
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Speaker 1: up and back of stay stage talking but yeah, that stuff, okay.

466
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Speaker 1: So off the back of this, I had a question,

467
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Speaker 1: why why were you so hap for me? Just just emotionally.

468
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Speaker 1: It's like I had that particular day.

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Speaker 2: We had.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I really would be guessing, but hundreds

471
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Speaker 1: of people crying. M and then I see people crying,

472
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Speaker 1: I get emotional and I'm like, you can't lose your shit.

473
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Speaker 1: You're the fucking idiot up the front. Get it together,

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Speaker 1: get it together. And then that takes a lot of

475
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Speaker 1: self regulation. And I'm not embarrassed to cry. I've literally

476
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Speaker 1: cried in front of hundreds of people.

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Speaker 3: Mean too. But it's hard as a presenter. So I

478
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Speaker 3: presented two days after my mom passed.

479
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Speaker 4: And believed it or I was talking about epigenetics through

480
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Speaker 4: the women's lifespan. It started through preconception, fertility, which is

481
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Speaker 4: where I started. It ended at Alzheimer's dementia and my

482
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Speaker 4: mom passed Alzheimer's dementia, and of course the organizers were like,

483
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Speaker 4: you don't have to come, and I was like.

484
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Speaker 3: I'll be there. And I got right to the end, right.

485
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Speaker 4: To the end, and then I'm talking about dementia and

486
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Speaker 4: then I just you know, just almost like can't get

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Speaker 4: my breath. And then I told everyone and I'm crying,

488
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Speaker 4: and yeah, I mean it was good because I guess

489
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Speaker 4: it was at the end. I didn't have to because

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Speaker 4: I've had another one that I'll tell you about where

491
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Speaker 4: it was sort of earlier on. But I have to

492
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Speaker 4: say it took a lot out of me because I.

493
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Speaker 3: Wasn't comfortable crying.

494
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: I thought my before that I'd probably never been emotional

495
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 4: ever on stage, and I saw myself as the expert.

496
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Speaker 3: It's not who I wanted to be.

497
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Speaker 4: However, the feedback I got from that and years later,

498
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Speaker 4: people you know, doctors that were there or people just

499
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 4: going that was one of the most moving talks that

500
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Speaker 4: I'd ever heard, so I think people really loved that.

501
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Speaker 3: Side of it.

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Speaker 2: But then, of course, but a few years.

503
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Speaker 4: Later, similar thing when I started the healthy Aging study,

504
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Speaker 4: and I was starting to share the results from that.

505
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Speaker 4: That came off the back of my dad passing. Like

506
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Speaker 4: that sort of gave me a bit of the motivation

507
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Speaker 4: to focus on all that stuff. A few things all aligned.

508
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Speaker 4: But I was talking about why I started the study,

509
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Speaker 4: and I was in New Zealand and I mentioned my

510
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 4: dad and I couldn't even believe it. I just started

511
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Speaker 4: crying at the beginning of the talk. But it was

512
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Speaker 4: it took so much energy to come back, like I

513
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: kept just trying to go, just get it together, just

514
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 4: get it together. But yes, I've cried on stage a

515
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Speaker 4: few times now, and I have to say, even though

516
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 4: it connects with people in a way and they say

517
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Speaker 4: they love it, I don't like it. Like I come

518
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 4: off stage going I wish I didn't do that. It's

519
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 4: interesting how we do that to ourselves.

520
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Speaker 2: I get it, but it just is what it is.

521
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Speaker 1: I'll shut up after this and move on to a

522
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: new question. But one of my best friends died about

523
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Speaker 1: ten years ago now. But I had anyway, I had

524
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Speaker 1: a corporate gig. I had a corporate gig at two

525
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Speaker 1: pm in the city and my friend passed away in

526
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Speaker 1: a car accident obviously totally unexpected, completely healthy, fit XAFL footballer,

527
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Speaker 1: helicopter pilot, film producer, superstar. Also two of his only

528
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: two kids passed away. It's the saddest thing of all time. Yeah, yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: so wife left with none of the men in her life,

530
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Speaker 1: right and saddest, Like, I've never been to a funeral

531
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Speaker 1: like it. But anyway, So I found out that the

532
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Speaker 1: funeral was on the same day, but it was like

533
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Speaker 1: two and a half hours before, and I'm like, well,

534
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: I'll go to the funeral. The funeral will be an hour.

535
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: I'll have at least an hour to get to the event.

536
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm on my motorbike, it's twenty minutes away. I'll get

537
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: my shit together, I'll have a coffee, I'll throw some

538
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: water on my face, I'll put on my big boy

539
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: pants and I'll.

540
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Speaker 2: Do the thing. Right.

541
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Speaker 1: So, the funeral starts late and it goes forever, and

542
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: it's still going like thirty minutes before I've got to present,

543
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: and I'm at least fifteen twenty minutes away on a motorbike,

544
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: so I you know, it's coming to an end. So

545
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Speaker 1: it wasn't totally you know, horrible that I walked out,

546
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: but so I had to leave, which obviously made me

547
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Speaker 1: feel shit. But there was literally three hundred people waiting

548
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: for me to talk of this thing. So I went

549
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: to this thing and same, I'm like, I started talking

550
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: about something and anyway, I thought of my mate and

551
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: just like I just started losing it and I definitely

552
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have done the gig. And I just said

553
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: to everyone, I just paused, and I said, this is

554
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: on no level should you need to tolerate this right now,

555
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: but let me just briefly explain. And I told them

556
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: and they were just like your people. They were like,

557
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's like, thank you for being vulnerable,

558
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: thank you for being honest. And it went better than

559
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: if I clearly I didn't cry for effect.

560
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: But yeah, and so I think people are very compassionate.

561
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: And I think when you're crying.

562
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: Real, right, people like reality.

563
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: We have this world where we think we need to

564
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: show up in a certain way, but truth is, people

565
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 4: people appreciate that because then all of a sudden they've

566
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: got a little bit of insight to you, and it

567
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: is it's so real.

568
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 2: I have a question for you. We'll pause that. Thank you.

569
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: So I don't know how much you ever think about this.

570
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: But out in the world of you know, superstar bloody

571
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: social media, people who are all promoting this gizmo and

572
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: that supplement and you know, this peptide and that whatever

573
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: off label, My patients come.

574
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: Through it and go, what about this? I've seen this online.

575
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 3: I pay two hundred dollars a month for this supplement

576
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: all that stuff.

577
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: Yes, so, I mean, I know, obviously, without naming anybody,

578
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: I know lots of students, believe it or not, I'm

579
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: still a student who use neotropics, A nootropic just for

580
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: our listeners, essentially something that improves cognitive performance.

581
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever opened this.

582
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Door, but things like again, not a recommendation anyone at all,

583
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: but things like people use nicorette gum, so people who

584
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: don't even smoke, they'll use like a I'm not going

585
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: to name doses or anything because I don't want to

586
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: direct anyone to anything, but they'll use.

587
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: There's good evidence for it though, and.

588
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but so and things like modafinol, which is

589
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: an anti narcolepsy drug, which people use. Friend of mine,

590
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: fuck another friend of mine who passed away a couple

591
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: of years ago. Or a year and a half ago,

592
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: he was a pharmacist and he was all about it.

593
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yes, it's not addictive, it's this and

594
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: that and so other than my question, my.

595
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: Long whining because we don't necessarily want to be recommending them,

596
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: but there are others.

597
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm just saying what people well,

598
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm actually asking quite a what's the word, like.

599
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: A morally grounded question.

600
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: So we don't want people necessarily, definitely not at our

601
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: direction or advice, taking drugs for their brain to work

602
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: optimally and to override their fatigue or whatever. And we

603
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: know sleep, and we know maybe a bit of caffeine,

604
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: and we know not having too much chaos, and we

605
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: know a bit of music, and we know a bit

606
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: of recovery. But is there anything that people can use

607
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: that is something in the ballpark of a natural supplement

608
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: or food or herb that has any kind of cognitive

609
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: enhancement effect.

610
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 4: Yes, and we may have mentioned on a previous podcast,

611
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: but if we haven't, something that works really well for

612
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 4: me and what I probably should have done before the

613
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: podcast because it's so good with my.

614
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: Clarity and my thoughts. El theanine is one of my favorites.

615
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: It's actually something that is more for when.

616
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 4: You're It increases the deep wave patterns in the brain.

617
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: So often people think about it with sleep because you

618
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 4: get a bit more deep sleep, but actually when you're

619
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: really dressed, or you're anxious, or you've got lots on,

620
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: which often happens when you're a bit tired, like when

621
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 4: we jumped on the podcast and we've had a million

622
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: things going on, elthenine just helps calm things down. But

623
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: it's not a sedative. It's actually not a sedative. It

624
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: actually helps with clarity. And when I love Healthanine before

625
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: I do presentations because I do always get a bit nervous.

626
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: People say you don't look nervous.

627
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 4: I am, But when I have Lthanine, I actually do

628
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: notice the difference. And as you were just talking about

629
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Speaker 4: all this is like why I didn't I have any

630
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: before coming on here, because it just helps me just

631
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 4: be a bit sharper with my with my thoughts. It

632
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: just takes a bit of that fuzz away. So I

633
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: love Lthanine. Another one is bu Copa.

634
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: Can you eate one sec? I just want to before

635
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: we finish and go on. Is Lthanine an amino acid,

636
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: it is it.

637
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit like that.

638
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: So, but it's coming from it's a plant extract, mainly

639
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 4: in green tea, and so you know, when people talk

640
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: about the benefits of green tea, they're often talking about

641
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: you know, lthenine as well some of the antioxidants. But

642
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: in interestingly they think in plants. It's actually to help

643
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: with plants with a stress response as well.

644
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: So and then we take it.

645
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: So where one, I'm asking for me, not for any

646
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: of our audience. So if I wanted to take it,

647
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know what I'm about. I'm

648
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: eighty kilos By the way, what how much would I take?

649
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: Where do I get it?

650
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: Is it a pill? Is it liquid? Is it? What

651
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: is it?

652
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 4: So?

653
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: Typically where do I get it? How much do I take?

654
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 3: So you could pop in?

655
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 4: I always recommend at least chatting to a pharmacist, you know,

656
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: popping into the chemist. There's usually someone there that's knowledgeable

657
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: in all the supplements. So if you don't have a

658
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: health practitioner, chat to your pharmacist, ask them for LC

659
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: and they'll have a range of different brands, Lots of

660
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: different companies offer it, but at least if you're speaking

661
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 4: to the pharmacist, it's going to be a good one

662
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: that's TGA.

663
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: Approved in Australia.

664
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: If you buy something online, you just don't know where

665
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: it's from all that kind of stuff. So I always

666
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: think of about getting it from a practitioner, at least

667
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: that the pharmacists to start with, so you know you're

668
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: getting a reputable brand.

669
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: You also don't even know if you're getting what you

670
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: think you're getting, Like if you buy it online, I

671
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: forget the number, but it's very like if it says

672
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: one hundred milligrams of whatever, it almost never is because

673
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: there's no way for you to know unless you go

674
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: get it laboratory tested.

675
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: Good luck with that.

676
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: There's no way for you to know if what it

677
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: says on the outside of the bottle or the packet

678
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: is what you're actually putting in your body one hundred percent.

679
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: And there are many studies where they've looked.

680
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: At supplements and there aren't the levels. Sometimes it's much less,

681
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: there's hardly anything. Other times it's much more. And what

682
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: you've got to be careful of is these brands that

683
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: we don't know, even if they've got fantastic marketing, they

684
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: can have what are known as excipients, other little things

685
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: fillers and stuff like that that actually aren't good for you,

686
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 4: so you want In Australia, we're quite lucky. We have

687
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: well lucky that could go off on a holidside that

688
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: I won't talk about.

689
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: The TGA. They could be a pain in some ways,

690
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: but they are quite strict.

691
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: So anything that has approval from our Therapeutic Goods Association.

692
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 4: So something stocked in a pharmacist, you know it's got

693
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 4: if they're going to have TGA approved things, so that

694
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 4: we know that they've been tested, the ingredients are safe.

695
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: I mean we're obous talking about then, and I'm telling

696
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 4: you about something, but there might be another product you're

697
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: looking at. So I would pop into the pharmacy. I

698
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: would chat to them and ask them, tell them you're

699
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 4: interested in this product. They can tell you what brands

700
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: they have. From a dosic perspective, from the dosages are

701
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: one hundred or two hundred milligrams.

702
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest.

703
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: For you, Craig, who's really busy at exercising, you know,

704
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: you know your weight and everything, and also for me

705
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: personally when I'm really thinking about using it for performance.

706
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: I don't really get.

707
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: Those effects that I just told you about until it

708
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: hits four hundred milligrams. Now, I know that's a little

709
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: bit higher than what recommended, but often on the bottle

710
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: they're giving you just a little low dose.

711
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: But if you're doing it just for helping you with

712
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: your sleep, as I said, getting your deep sleep or

713
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: a bit of calming, that two hundred milligrams is enough

714
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: that if you're doing it because you're getting up and

715
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: you're doing a presentation, or you're in a podcast, or

716
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: you just really need to just get your head together.

717
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: You know you're at UNI, you're obviously finishing your PhD.

718
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: Then I would be going that four hundred milligrams. That's

719
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 4: still not getting to a dose that's that's dangerous. But again,

720
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: don't take this from me. I would talk to your

721
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 4: health practition or the pharmacist. Get it from the pharmacist,

722
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: and know what they tell you for that specific product.

723
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: Is something interesting. I read this the other day.

724
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: I just brought it up again on AI to try

725
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: and it's a bit of discrepancy over But so these

726
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: are all university studies where they tested how much creatine

727
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: is in creatine gummies. And at least at least fifty

728
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: percent of the creatine gummies have no creatine.

729
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 4: Oh wow, so Creatin's obviously another one that's really good.

730
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: Did I tell you about my story of trying to

731
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: have fifteen grams at one go and actually did it twice?

732
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: And both times I was not. I was like all dizzy.

733
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: And have you had high dose creatine in one go?

734
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 4: I have it every day, every day milligram fifteen gram

735
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: sorry in one go?

736
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, generally probably ten or twelve grams,

737
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: which is like two heaped teaspoons, but.

738
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: I've had twenty grams. Yeah. Yeah.

739
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 1: But also I think, like everything again, everyone not a recommendation,

740
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: and why would why do I take creatine?

741
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: Not for you know, extra.

742
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: Reps in the gym, although that doesn't hurt, But there's

743
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: a lot of evidence to suggest that, as Denise is suggesting,

744
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: there's a cognitive benefit, more like cognitive endurance and focus

745
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: and clarity. Yeah, so definitely I find that. So it's

746
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: ironic that I used to take creatine because I was

747
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: a bullfed training Yeah, and now because I'm trying to

748
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: be less of a I'm taking creating.

749
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

750
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 4: I remember taking it and honestly, I could, you know,

751
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: run further, you know, when I was injured and.

752
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: Things like that.

753
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 4: I was a bit anti creatine for so long because

754
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: I was using it for the wrong reasons. I was

755
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: using it to push myself when I was already fatigued,

756
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 4: and because I did get something from it.

757
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: But I now use it for a different reason.

758
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: And I am quite a chat to my clients and

759
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: patients and say, we're not using this to increase performance,

760
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: particularly if you've got some health issues. We don't want

761
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 4: you to overtrain because it's going to make things worse.

762
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: But from a cognitive perspective, the higher.

763
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: Dose it has been shown to cross the blood brain

764
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: barrier and be really helpful with cognition. However, this is

765
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: a reason why you should go and chat to your

766
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 4: farmer st or have a practitioner. Because even though I

767
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 4: hear these things on podcasts and there's all this stuff,

768
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: I had fifteen.

769
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: So it said that it also helps.

770
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 4: Get rid of jet lag. Well, I am someone that

771
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: has jet lag all the time. So I got home, Great,

772
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to have my fifteen gram's going to get

773
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 4: rid of my jet lag. No, I felt a little

774
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: bit dizzy. Is at the word, but just not right

775
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 4: in my head. And then i'd slight nausea and I

776
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: was like, I don't feel great. Interesting, and I thought, okay,

777
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: that's a one off. Don't judge it on one off.

778
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: So then I had at the second time felt exactly

779
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 4: the same. What I haven't done, though, is try a

780
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 4: different brand. So I'm using a high quality Australian straight

781
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 4: creatine powder. There's nothing in it's from a an Australian. Yeah,

782
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: I won't say the brands, but anyway, it is a

783
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 4: very high quality practitioner only actually not that you need

784
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 4: a practitioner only one.

785
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: So I don't think there's anything nasty in it.

786
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 4: But what I need to do, because it's been about

787
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 4: twelve months since I tried it, is get a different brand.

788
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 4: But I can have five grams. But again, the five

789
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: grams doesn't take away my jet lag. I don't notice

790
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: the cognitive stuff. Do you notice so with lth and

791
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 4: when I have four hundred milligrams, I personally works wonders

792
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: for me. Do you have fifteen milligrams order that high

793
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: dose of creatine.

794
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: And you notice it? You actually can feel the difference,

795
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: think differently, you're on your.

796
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 2: Show one hundred.

797
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: So I feel like this is probably not true, but

798
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a little bit smarter. But the

799
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: few times that and I've spoken about this that I've

800
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: likened this is a person who's never had a cigarette.

801
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: But the times that I've taken not a recommendation everyone.

802
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: I've taken two milligram chewing gum, nicotine or nicorette or

803
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: whatever at one hundred percent, I can absolutely tell. And

804
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: it's not a placebo because I've done things before where

805
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: I knew it was going to work and I got

806
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: fucking nothing. So my expectation doesn't necessarily create a response.

807
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, where So the funny thing is for me,

808
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: it's about one and a half hours where everything's just clearer,

809
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: My recalls better, you know, my articulation of things is better.

810
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: Bah bah bah. It's about an hour and a half

811
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: to two.

812
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: So if I have say which I offer and have,

813
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: I've got to speak at a function at night and

814
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: I've been up since five and I'm.

815
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: Speaking at seven thirty.

816
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: So I'm like, on a typical day, I'm just like

817
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: my brain's just putting itself to bed and just fucking

818
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: pulling the blankets up over its prefrontal cortex and going

819
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: giving a finger to the world, right, And yeah, so

820
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: I will have as I'm driving in or maybe even

821
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: maybe even five or ten minutes before I speak. I

822
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: sometimes will do that, and for me it works. Again,

823
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: I do shit that works for me, like I had

824
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: two meals a day. I wouldn't recommend it to everybody.

825
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: I haven't had a job for forty years. I wouldn't

826
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: recommend it to anybody now. And then I take a

827
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: bit of nicotine because it works for me. But you know,

828
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,959
Speaker 1: like I would say this year, not this year, because

829
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: I've done you know, fuck all. But probably in the

830
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: last twelve months, I've done three bits of gum, So

831
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: this is definitely not a habit, right. And another thing

832
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: that I've used, which I spoke about before, my dafinol,

833
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: which I've probably used six times in my life. But yeah,

834
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: again that's I don't even want to tell you on air,

835
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: but yeah, that just is for me. That's a fucking

836
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: game changer. Yeah, like our game changer. That's why I

837
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: don't use it because I maybe have addictive tendencies and.

838
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I could get used to this, and

839
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to so bad to be relying on it. Yeah, yeah,

840
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: and again. But the thing is, it's like, here's the

841
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: thing you're talking about. You had fifteen grams and cretin

842
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: and you've got this response. I was saying, I have

843
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: fifteen grams. I have a totally different response.

844
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: But you know, I've given people who've never had careateine.

845
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: I'd say, look, take this, that's like fucking thirty grams.

846
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: I'd give them a bit of mine or whatever, and

847
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: I'd take that and do like ten grams three days

848
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: in a row. And the first day they'd ring me

849
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: and go, I've got a horrible fucking game. And it's

850
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: like it gives them a horrible gut. Say the next person,

851
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: they do not even notice it, So it's it's less Well,

852
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: of course, it's about what we're putting in our body,

853
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: but it's also very much about how our physiology interacts

854
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: with that whatever it is we're digesting, absorbing.

855
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: See, even something as basic as magnesium.

856
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 4: You know, we can use magnesium as a laxative because

857
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 4: some people really gets their vowels moving.

858
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: Some people.

859
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 4: But you know, I have had little she was tiny

860
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: and ballet, professional ballet dancer, but she was having a

861
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 4: gram like so, you know, we're usually most magnesium supplement

862
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: about one hundred and fifty milligrams, so had her on

863
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 4: our whole gram, you know, over a thousand milligrams, but that's.

864
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: What she needed.

865
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: She was stressed, she was a bit anxious, you know,

866
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: her level of exercise. That was really helpful for her.

867
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: But someone else would have four hundred milligrams and they

868
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: would get the runs. So you know, different people respond

869
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: in different ways. By the way, you know, a gram

870
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: of magnesium is a lot. I'm definitely not recommending that

871
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 4: that was a unique person in that situation. Definitely want

872
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 4: to be working with how health practitioner if you want

873
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 4: to start to think about using things therapeutically high dose

874
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 4: and most often I don't recommend high dose, but it

875
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 4: is important to note how we respond differently and when

876
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 4: you see something online and you see what you were.

877
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: Talking about the start.

878
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: If we go back to the question the social media stuff,

879
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 4: it's not good for everyone. We're all different, and you

880
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: need to be really careful what you put in your body,

881
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: really careful and try to choose quality things, be confident

882
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: that you're getting what you're actually wanting, and the other one.

883
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: I wanted to mention too.

884
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 4: If we're thinking about stress cognition is bu copa, and

885
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: that's often in some of the neotropics, and I do

886
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: give a nootropic kind of powdery teething to some of

887
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: my clients. They're worried about cognition and it's got bu

888
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: copa in it. And we have a lot of studies

889
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: with bu copa, again a herbal extract.

890
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: A lot of the herbalist and naturopaths have been using it.

891
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: For a long time, but now it's becoming popular with

892
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: the cognition and I also so I'm interested in it

893
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 4: because there are some studies to show that it's helpful

894
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: with reducing cognitive decline, and that's obviously an area I'm

895
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 4: interested in me being predisposed to Alzheimer's, But there's also

896
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: a lot of studies with stress showing that bu copa

897
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 4: can actually help people with just managing their stress levels.

898
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 3: And I think often when we are thinking that we

899
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: can't get.

900
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: Our thoughts together and all that stuff, there is just

901
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: because there's this bit of underlying stress, So managing that stress.

902
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: Obviously there's a lifestyle stuff as well, but if you

903
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 4: can take a supplement here or there that's natural, that

904
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 4: doesn't have side effects, that's not addictive. You're lcnin, you know,

905
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 4: a bit of creatine. If it works for you, work

906
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 4: out what dose is right, you know, be COPA or

907
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 4: some of these things.

908
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: I mean, we do have a lot of evidence that

909
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: they work.

910
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so yes, and I think that, you know,

911
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about one of my friends who

912
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: I saw a dude on the weekend that's five to

913
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 1: ten coffees a day. I'm like, dude, I would be dead,

914
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: and he goes. I can go to bed with a

915
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: and I sleep like a baby. Right.

916
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: And another one of my past another delizer of caffeine.

917
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 4: Some people are fast metabolizers of genetics. And these people

918
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: are actually known to often drink more coffee, but they

919
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: actually process it really quicker, quicker than there are some

920
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 4: people that just couldn't tolerate that much caffeine. It wouldn't

921
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: matter what they tried genetically, biologically, they're not able to

922
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 4: do that.

923
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was going to mention another friend who

924
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: has one and if they have two, they get anxiety.

925
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 3: You know.

926
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll have a second.

927
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: One, I'll be right, and then they just get anxiety

928
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: and slight, and it's got to be one a day,

929
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: and it's got to be early. I like, if they

930
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: have it at midday, they're fucked. If they have it

931
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: at seven am, they're all right.

932
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: So and of course I can't put everything onto genetics,

933
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 4: but I'm almost guessing their genetics.

934
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: And you should never guess genetics because you never know.

935
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 4: But I would say that person is a slow metabolizer.

936
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 4: So there's a phase one enzyme called SIP one A

937
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: one one A two, and it metabolizes not there's sick

938
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 4: one A two is ninety percent of the caffeine.

939
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: So some people are fast or slow that first.

940
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: Enzyme they whiz it through or they're really slow. So

941
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 4: if you whiz it through, but the slow metabolizers, it's

942
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 4: going through slowly. And then we have another enzyme called

943
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: compt thattually helps us break down our adrenaline. And then

944
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 4: some people are slow at breaking down adrenaline because caffeine

945
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: causes a bit of cortisol, bit of adrenaline.

946
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: So if you're putting that in, you're slow at the coffee.

947
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: And then you're also slow when it comes to clearing

948
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: your adrenaline. You're not so good with dealing with the stress.

949
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: It's all those things. And it's not just genetics. That

950
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: COMPT that I just told you about. That is the

951
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: actual enzyme that breaks down adrenaline. It relies on magnesium.

952
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 4: You don't have enough magnesium.

953
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 3: That doesn't work. That's why we give magnesium for stress,

954
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 3: big vitamins, all that stuff, all that fun stuff.

955
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: I feel fifteen percent dumber every time I talk to you.

956
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: But thanks, thanks for that. I'm not sure what you said.

957
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: I'll have to ask chat GPT you later when I

958
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: decode it. Now I'm kidding, you're great. Hey, everyone, just

959
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: remember so June twelve to fourteen, the Reset program Mantra

960
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: Malulaba jump on the weight list if you want, of course,

961
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: go to Craig Harper or one word Cragharper dot net

962
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: and we'll be launching the program officially in a week

963
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: or two. But what that does is guaranteed, Well, it

964
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: doesn't guarantee you a spot. It guarantees that you are

965
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: in first.

966
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 3: So you don't miss out. So you don't miss out.

967
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: Well, you might because we've only got fifty spots. But

968
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: I think, like what.

969
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 2: We know, can I say now? I don't want to say,

970
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: we've got a fair few people on the waitlist.

971
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: But also what we do know about this stuff is

972
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: that most times, like nine percent of the people on

973
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: the weight list don't go through with it.

974
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: Maybe eighty to ninety percent. It varies.

975
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: But I think we're going to have a good time.

976
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. Dr Denise. Oh god, I need a

977
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: new tropic. It's but how I hope that the rest

978
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: of your night goes okay.

979
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: I hope your brain works.

980
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: I'm so glad we had this conversation because I have

981
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 4: such a busy day and I initially didn't have the

982
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 4: podcast sladed in here. I am going off to have

983
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 4: my LFA, I'm going to have some creatine. This has

984
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: actually made.

985
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: Me go, yes, this is what I need to get

986
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: me through the next couple of hours. So thanks for that.

987
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: Just remind me again you think I should have how

988
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: much a day give or take.

989
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 4: Elth and I, because you're using it really for the

990
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: mental clarity, I'd have four hundred milligrams.

991
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're not a tracker, are you. You don't

992
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: track your rem or your deep sleep or anything.

993
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: Nah. No, it would just give me more shit to

994
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: worry about.

995
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: I just go not fuck it. I would become like

996
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 1: a fucking deer in the headlights. I'd just be looking

997
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: at that shit all day.

998
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 3: I like it, to be honest.

999
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 4: The whoop gave me less anxiety because I labeled myself

1000
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 4: as a bad sleeper.

1001
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: And I realize I'm not a bad sleeper anymore. But

1002
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: I've worked on sleep. Oh you know what I have

1003
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: not told you.

1004
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 4: We should have talked about this at the beginning of

1005
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 4: the podcast. Is getting excited and we're just about to

1006
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: wrap it up after doing the last podcast with you.

1007
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: We're not just about to we're wrapping it up.

1008
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 3: After the last podcast. I said to you, I'm a

1009
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: good sleeper.

1010
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 4: I'm perimenopausal, and I'm this and I travel and I'm

1011
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 4: so amazing, and I work on my sleep. I for

1012
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks was waking up at two

1013
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 4: in the morning, three in the morning, four in the morning,

1014
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 4: and I was like, what is that?

1015
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: What is that?

1016
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: Anyway, Everything's back to normal, but isn't it interesting? Just

1017
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: don't get too copy anyone, because then life will just

1018
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: throw something at you. And I don't exactly know what

1019
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 4: the difference was. I thought I'd nailed this sleep stuff.

1020
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: But it's hilarious. That's calm of kicking you in the

1021
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 2: sleep cycle.

1022
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: It was it was like, don't get ahead of yourself. Girl,

1023
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: Like what I was going to say to you.

1024
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: Settle down, professor.

1025
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, my whoo.

1026
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: I track, and I know that I sleep well most

1027
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 4: nights but the lth and if you are listening to

1028
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: this and you do like that bit of data, actually

1029
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: see if it works for you. Have it at night,

1030
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: because I do get more deep sleep when I have

1031
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 4: the LC and and it's nice to be to be

1032
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 4: able to track these things. If you're not a tracker,

1033
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: just pay attention to how you feel. Like Craig said,

1034
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 4: feels better with the creteen.

1035
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: All right, I'm shutting up now. I can see you

1036
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: looking at me.

1037
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something funny?

1038
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 1: As a host, one of the funniest things that guests

1039
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: say is if you are listening. I'm like, literally, everyone

1040
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: that's listening is listening, and if they're not listening, they

1041
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: won't hear you. So if you are listening, listeners, I

1042
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: love that. Hey, how can people connect with you? Find you?

1043
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: And I feel like you're.

1044
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 2: Too busy to get back to people.

1045
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: By god, I'm sorry everyone. I wasn't taking any patients

1046
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: last year.

1047
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 4: I know that there's a lot of people on the

1048
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 4: wait list, but I'm doing a lot less international travel,

1049
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 4: focusing on the business. Midyear, I will be trying to

1050
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: open up a little bit. But obviously we've got the

1051
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 4: retreat and doing a few in person events. So you

1052
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: can look up my name the website and come over

1053
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 4: to the Facebook group. I'm not doing as much in there,

1054
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 4: but jump on the email list and see what's happening,

1055
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: or you know, jump on the weight list if you

1056
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 4: want to come to the Sunshine Coast and see us.

1057
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: In person, and if you don't, that's fine, we still

1058
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: love you.

1059
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also there might be some other stuff happening after

1060
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: the weekend. We'll see.

1061
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: We'll talk off air. But you're the best. I'm the

1062
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 1: second best.

1063
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 3: Chuck out the rest.

1064
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: No, we're not choking, thanks tooff We'll see you next time.