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Speaker 1: This is the fitsy and with her with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you have to spend some of your weekend with

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Speaker 2: the in laws.

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Speaker 3: It does happen on school holidays.

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Speaker 2: Too, well, it does. And it's a hard situation to

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Speaker 2: be in because you may not be thanks Jess, massive

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Speaker 2: fans of the in laws, but you need them as well,

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Speaker 2: you know. And you know it's lovely to have grandparents

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Speaker 2: in the kids' lives. I agree, but sometimes a mother

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Speaker 2: in law's relationship with her son can get a little

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Speaker 2: bit creepy. And that's why I want to hear from

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Speaker 2: you this morning, mother in law and son. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: I do think and I mean, you know, this is

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Speaker 2: not me saying this at all, but I do think

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Speaker 2: that some mother in law's can be very close to

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Speaker 2: their children, and when it comes to the daughters that

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Speaker 2: that's a given in some ways. But with the sons,

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Speaker 2: they're the woman in the son's life, and I think

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Speaker 2: sometimes they find it hard to see another woman come

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Speaker 2: into their life, their son's life and almost steal them

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Speaker 2: away a little bit, you know, they continue to try

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Speaker 2: and put their stab yep, this is how we do

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Speaker 2: on the life of their son. Thirteen twenty fourteen. If

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Speaker 2: you've had this experience or if it's god as creepy

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Speaker 2: as this, this story is absolutely wild. The headline is,

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Speaker 2: my mother in law is so in love with her

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Speaker 2: own son, she sees me as the other woman. Now,

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Speaker 2: this woman has called out the creepy mother in law

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Speaker 2: for the way that she behaves around her husband. She

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Speaker 2: doesn't think it's kind of a normal mother and son relationship.

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Speaker 2: She thinks it's a bit obsessive. So they've been married

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Speaker 2: for nine years and she says, my mother in law

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Speaker 2: is in love with my husband. His mother has always

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Speaker 2: made me feel uncomfortable by the way she talks to

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Speaker 2: him and feels about him. She comments on how sexy

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Speaker 2: as a man he is. She talks about how firm

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Speaker 2: his skin is, his jawbone, and she tells me, wait

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Speaker 2: for this one. She tells me that our children look

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Speaker 2: like her and him made babies. Oh yeah. The other

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Speaker 2: thing that this mother in law does so her husband's mother.

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Speaker 2: She comes in and out of the home as she feels.

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Speaker 2: So she doesn't live with the son and the daughter

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Speaker 2: in law, but she obviously has access to the house

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Speaker 2: and wanders in like it's her place. They'll find her

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Speaker 2: in the kitchen making a cup of tea, and I

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Speaker 2: have to tell you this story, which will illustrate once

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Speaker 2: again how creepy it is. She said that one day

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Speaker 2: her and her husband were going off to bed of

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Speaker 2: an evening and they turn the light out, and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden they heard this wailing coming from in

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Speaker 2: the hallway. They turn the light on, and the mother

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Speaker 2: in law is standing in the doorway of the bedrooms

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Speaker 2: like just sobbing and saying what an awful day she was.

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Speaker 2: And of course you know they're caring people. They want

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Speaker 2: to know if she's okay. And the mother in law

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Speaker 2: shuts down the daughter in law and says, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm fine. I've just had an awful day, and then

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Speaker 2: asks the sun to come and lay down with her.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this bit's made up. This is

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Speaker 2: where it comes. Okay, I believe this bit. Can you

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Speaker 2: come and lay with me? I believe that bit. I

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Speaker 2: also believe this bit while I hold you okay at

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Speaker 2: a stretch, but I still believe it. Spooning, I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure about this bit. She then goes on to say,

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Speaker 2: and let me smell your hair. Now, I don't think

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Speaker 2: that Mama has really come to the doorway and said,

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Speaker 2: please come and lay with me while I hold you

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Speaker 2: and smell your hair. But you never know, it might

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Speaker 2: remind her of, you know, the early days, but she

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Speaker 2: had a brand new baby. Maybe the sun still smells

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Speaker 2: like a little Oh my.

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Speaker 3: God, I've had such a bad day. Ah, Now I

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Speaker 3: feel better. That is one hundred percent weird.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't have a son, probably will never have

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Speaker 2: a son, So I am not claiming to know how

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Speaker 2: difficult it is when you bring up a child and

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Speaker 2: they turn into a man, and then basically another woman

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Speaker 2: comes along into your life and they become the most

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Speaker 2: important person. Up until that point, as the mother, you

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Speaker 2: have been the most important woman in their life. You know,

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Speaker 2: they listen to everything, and now you've got this other

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Speaker 2: woman mustling in on your terror.

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Speaker 3: Will a man ever be good enough for me?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Or a girl who knows I mean? Will may ever

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Speaker 3: have a partner that is good enough for you?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Well? Maybe not, but I certainly wouldn't make her life

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Speaker 2: miserable because of my own judgment, because I do think

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Speaker 2: meddling in laws can make life incredibly hard and put

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Speaker 2: unnecessary strain on relationships. You have to draw a line

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Speaker 2: in the sand on.

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Speaker 3: The flip side. You know, my I find my mother

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Speaker 3: in law quite attractive. She looks a bit like Sandra

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Speaker 3: Sully Deborah, and she loves a vacuum, loves a sweep.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. She is handy around the house.

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Speaker 2: I'll see you like a pretty blonde. He does chores.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, do you even know what you're saying?

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Speaker 2: Stop labeling me. Please give us a call so I

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Speaker 2: don't have to listen to whippers story. So I would

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Speaker 2: much prefer to listen to yours. If you've got a

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Speaker 2: bit of a meddling mother in law. Vanessa and mcquarie fields,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Vanessa.

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: How are you not too bad? Have you had this

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Speaker 2: kind of experience yourself? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I was with someone for six years and it

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Speaker 1: was just the relationship was just over the line, like

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Speaker 1: the point that, yeah, it was just cringe. It was

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Speaker 1: to the point that you know, she would go in

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Speaker 1: and have a bath and he would just go in

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Speaker 1: and then have a conversation, be brushing his teeth and

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Speaker 1: you could.

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Speaker 3: See everything why mum was lying in the bath.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she would call me in to have a conversation.

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Speaker 1: So then it was really awkward because it's like I

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Speaker 1: felt I had to go in. But then it was

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Speaker 1: just uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: So all three of you in the bathroom, Well you're

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Speaker 2: having a conversation. Well, mum's having a bath. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean some people are more comfortable with their bodies

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Speaker 2: and nudity in the house than others. But you're saying

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Speaker 2: it was a slightly strange mother, that's weird.

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Speaker 1: Well it was also he would jok around and go

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Speaker 1: oh cities, and he squeeze it is like a boob.

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Speaker 3: We understand, titties.

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Speaker 2: I love her clarified that because yeah, I love you

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Speaker 2: came out with the big guns. Because we were sitting

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Speaker 2: here thinking you were just a bit prudish, Vanessa, but

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Speaker 2: now you're really sad.

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Speaker 3: I'd written you if was dead boring Vanessa, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: But now that you've said that.

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Speaker 2: What else have you got for us? Vanessa?

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Speaker 1: Else? We watch a movie altogether, and she would be

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Speaker 1: she call him over and she stay with his hair,

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Speaker 1: and I'd be sitting there with his hand so his hair.

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Speaker 1: He'd lay on the lap and he played. She played

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Speaker 1: with his hair. And I'd be sitting on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the couch.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Vanessa, Okay, one more, come on, You've got to

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Speaker 2: have another one?

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Speaker 3: Vanessa. Can I just ask going back to the oh,

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Speaker 3: I go on, you to your one?

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Speaker 1: Oh? So every time, like so we go out for something,

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Speaker 1: she would always like tag along and he's so sorry

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Speaker 1: for her because you know, she was like always alone,

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Speaker 1: so she'd always on our date, she'd come along with us.

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Speaker 3: Vanessa, Can I ask just the moment of when she

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Speaker 3: suggests he comes over and squeezes it or touches her breasts.

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Speaker 1: They used to know. He used to play around and

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Speaker 1: go please you said it again? Was I told you

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Speaker 1: to do it? It was just so weird.

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Speaker 2: Was she in the bath at that point or had

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Speaker 2: she gone out and the.

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Speaker 1: Stop and dry and then clothes bast and then she had.

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Speaker 2: A clothes on. This is like when she's making a

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Speaker 2: cup of tea in the kitchen.

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Speaker 1: He comes up, yes, yes, and then what does he do?

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Speaker 1: What is your wife's been hard her and grab her

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Speaker 1: and your kidding? And I was like, it was just

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Speaker 1: so weird. I'm not with him now, thank god.

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Speaker 3: But he was just a strange, isn't he Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Who he doesn't need yours. He's got his moms. Oh

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