Speaker 1: This is the US Report with James Morrow.
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program at the end
Speaker 2: of a very somber week. And I tell you what,
Speaker 2: in all the years of doing this program, this would
Speaker 2: have to be the grimmest US Report I've ever presented.
Speaker 2: It's now a little over thirty six hours since the
Speaker 2: news broke that Charlie Kirk, and he needs no introduction,
Speaker 2: was taken out by a single shot from a sniper's
Speaker 2: bullet in Utah. His crime, his provocation, well, we don't
Speaker 2: know for sure, but it is a fair bit bet
Speaker 2: that the only thing he did wrong, the only thing
Speaker 2: that attracted that assassin's bullet, was to be a conservative,
Speaker 2: an outspoken conservative who had an incredible talent for bringing
Speaker 2: young people over to his side of politics through his
Speaker 2: famous Change My Mind debates series, where he would sit
Speaker 2: at a table and literally take all comers and use
Speaker 2: reason and Socratic dialogue to argue his case and win converts.
Speaker 2: Kirk was incredibly passionate about America and young people, and
Speaker 2: getting young people to believe in a brighter future when
Speaker 2: they were born into a system that seemed and indeed
Speaker 2: seems to be failing them. He built the massive Turning
Speaker 2: Point USA network, and he got results. He managed to
Speaker 2: help massive numbers of young Americans, particularly young men, move
Speaker 2: away from the left and the leftist indoctrination they'd received
Speaker 2: every day of their lives through the schools and popular culture.
Speaker 2: And of course he was close to President Trump and
Speaker 2: the MAGA movement. They killed him, but his legacy will
Speaker 2: be the most conservative generation in generations. What happened this
Speaker 2: week is not just a terrible tragedy for Kirk, his widow,
Speaker 2: and his two young children left without a father. It
Speaker 2: is also a tragedy for America because it represents an
Speaker 2: incredibly dangerous escalation of leftist violets, or rather, I should say,
Speaker 2: an escalation of the leftist celebration of violence. Because while
Speaker 2: it is true that over the years Democrats as well
Speaker 2: as Republicans have lost their lives to political violence in America,
Speaker 2: and all of that is bad, all of that is evil,
Speaker 2: all of that needs to stop, only one side seems
Speaker 2: to celebrate it.
Speaker 1: Do you support his death?
Speaker 3: Do you support his death, Charlie Trudy, You support.
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk being killed?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: I do. On the day that you're here at a vigil,
Speaker 3: ye for Charlie Kirk, and you support his death.
Speaker 2: Support a Nazi? No, I don't support a Nazi.
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk wasn't a Nazi by.
Speaker 1: The sword, died by the sword.
Speaker 5: He did say that gun deaths were an acceptable side
Speaker 5: effect of gun rights.
Speaker 6: And unfortunately that means your wife is going to be
Speaker 6: raising her kids potentially alone. But at least everyone still
Speaker 6: gets access to all their guns.
Speaker 2: I love that last one in particular. You see the
Speaker 2: logic here. Kirk was a supporter of the Second Amendment
Speaker 2: right to bear arms, and for that the left thinks
Speaker 2: he deserves to have been shot. Now that's some great
Speaker 2: but I think very telling logic there, because what are
Speaker 2: they saying, take away our guns otherwise we'll be forced
Speaker 2: to shoot you. Seriously, it's right up there with Islam
Speaker 2: is a religion of peace and death to anyone who
Speaker 2: says otherwise. A visibly rattled Trump himself, the victim of
Speaker 2: two assassination attempts, addressed the hate on the left shortly
Speaker 2: after the killing.
Speaker 7: It's a long pastime for all Americans and the media
Speaker 7: to confront the fact that violence and murder are the
Speaker 7: tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree day
Speaker 7: after day, year after year, in the most hateful and
Speaker 7: despicable way possible. For years, those on the radical left
Speaker 7: have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the
Speaker 7: world's worst mass murderers and criminals. This kind of rhetoric
Speaker 7: is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in
Speaker 7: our country today, and it must stop right now.
Speaker 2: Look he's right, but if I may disagree a little
Speaker 2: bit here with the President, I don't want to buy
Speaker 2: in too much to the mean words cause violence argument
Speaker 2: because I think there is something deeper going on. This
Speaker 2: is more than words. Now. The left, if you know
Speaker 2: your history, and I know you do, has a real
Speaker 2: neolistic darkness at its heart, at the heart of its soul,
Speaker 2: despite all of its peace, love and mung beans rhetoric.
Speaker 2: Kirk represented everything the left hates, happiness, family, christianity. Look
Speaker 2: at him here and look at what he left behind.
Speaker 2: And now now he's dead. Here's his coffin being carried
Speaker 2: by Vice President J. D. Vance after landing in his
Speaker 2: home state of Arizona. There's no words for that. And
Speaker 2: unlike conservatives who want to preserve and to build, those
Speaker 2: on the left, the revolutionary left. They want to tear
Speaker 2: down and start anew, to build their own utopia. It
Speaker 2: has been the same ever since the terror of the
Speaker 2: French Revolution, right through the communist upheavals of the twentieth
Speaker 2: century right through to today, and death or too often
Speaker 2: is part of that program, because if you're in the
Speaker 2: way of the road to utopia, you will be crushed. Now,
Speaker 2: the great question now, in this moment of grief, sadness,
Speaker 2: has anger, is what to do next? And already there
Speaker 2: are reports that the bullets the killer fired or planned
Speaker 2: a fire, were engraved with expressions of transgender and so
Speaker 2: called anti anti fascist ideology. And we now know, we
Speaker 2: all know what's so called anti fascist or antifa ideology
Speaker 2: is all about riots, threats, destruction in the name of politics.
Speaker 2: And I think this opens a new possibility here. Now
Speaker 2: whether or not the killer is part of a broader
Speaker 2: network of organized activists remains to be seen, but either way,
Speaker 2: this should be the final spur required to force the FBI,
Speaker 2: now run by Cash Pattel, to do something that should
Speaker 2: have been done years ago, that is, smash antifa, the
Speaker 2: so called anti fascist militant organization that happens to run
Speaker 2: around like a bunch of fascists smashing and rock and
Speaker 2: everything else and all the other militant organizing groups that
Speaker 2: have been driving violent protests in America since at least
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty Summer of Love. And this is a
Speaker 2: great precedent. There is a great precedent for this in
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties under President Lyndon Johnson, a president who,
Speaker 2: let's be honest, had a lot of flaws, to say
Speaker 2: the least, did something good. He ordered this man the
Speaker 2: head of the FBI, j Edgar Hoover, another deeply flawed individual.
Speaker 2: But that's another story, to take down the KKK, the
Speaker 2: Ku Klux Klan. Now. Back then they used the Civil
Speaker 2: Rights Act to smash the organization that had been responsible
Speaker 2: for horrendous murders and bombings in the South, killing both
Speaker 2: Black Americans and white civil rights workers. Today, there's another option,
Speaker 2: use anti racketeering statues known as RICO to go after
Speaker 2: Antifa and other such groups. Again, whether or not kirks
Speaker 2: Killer turns out to have been part of a more
Speaker 2: organized group, there is already early evidence suggesting he was
Speaker 2: influenced by what is broadly, if entirely inaccurately referred to
Speaker 2: as the anti fascist movement, which has been responsible for
Speaker 2: so much mayhem in the US, including riots and partial
Speaker 2: occupations of cities like Seattle, smashing antif I would go
Speaker 2: a long way to disrupt violent, radical left protest movements
Speaker 2: that were previously tacitly or otherwise encouraged by the left,
Speaker 2: including the Biden and Obama administrations, to act as shock
Speaker 2: troops for their own agendas. It will be a small start,
Speaker 2: but an important one, and it is a time of tragedy.
Speaker 2: Feeling powerless is the worst thing. This idea, though, gives
Speaker 2: a broader agenda for the administration that might also be
Speaker 2: a good way to signal to the rest of America
Speaker 2: that they've got their back and that the bad guys
Speaker 2: aren't gonna win. All right, Well, let's get straight into
Speaker 2: it with our us port regular former White House Chief
Speaker 2: of Staff and senior advisor of Bondi Partners, Mick mulvaney. Mick,
Speaker 2: a very tragic week here. I'd love to just get
Speaker 2: your personal reaction to this incredible tragedy, the killing of
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk less than forty eight hours ago. Did you
Speaker 2: know the man? Had you met him. What were your
Speaker 2: impressions of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 6: Yeah, James, I was one of the few conservatives who
Speaker 6: probably didn't know Charlie very well. I had met him
Speaker 6: a couple of times, but for whatever reasons, our paths
Speaker 6: didn't cross. But when you move in the same circles
Speaker 6: that we do, I've reached out to have dozens of
Speaker 6: people reach out to me today the last couple of
Speaker 6: days actually to talk about him. He was widely admired
Speaker 6: on the right, especially for the type of things that
Speaker 6: probably don't get reported very much. He's just supposedly a
Speaker 6: really decent guy, good father, great husband, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: So a lot of things you forget about when you
Speaker 6: do what some of us do for a living, when
Speaker 6: you talk to a camera for a living, you talk
Speaker 6: to groups for a living, that sometimes that human part
Speaker 6: of you gets lost. And there's a lot of folks
Speaker 6: talking openly now but just what a great human being.
Speaker 1: He was and how much they appreciate him.
Speaker 6: So look, it's I know we're going to talk a
Speaker 6: little bit about the impact, but the humanity certainly shouldn't
Speaker 6: be lost on anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, and that's one of the things
Speaker 2: that truly struck me about this is that, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously all political violence is absolutely wrong. But
Speaker 2: for this guy whose entire you know, routine, for lack
Speaker 2: of a better word, his whole way of operating was
Speaker 2: a dialogue and engaging the other side to be the
Speaker 2: target of so much hate and vitriol we've seen, you know,
Speaker 2: not only of course with the shooting itself, but in
Speaker 2: the aftermath it seems to be so contradictory.
Speaker 6: Yeah, That's what I think is shaking a lot of
Speaker 6: people here, is that even my demo crat friends who
Speaker 6: don't like him, and there's a lot of them, and
Speaker 6: they didn't like him very much, certainly didn't like his politics,
Speaker 6: you know, admire the fact that he would sit down
Speaker 6: and talk to people. He was one of those folks
Speaker 6: who wouldn't want to sit down and talk with you,
Speaker 6: not necessarily talk at you. And I think that's what's
Speaker 6: really sort of settling in with folks in a very
Speaker 6: uncomfortable way, which is this, This is not supposed to happen.
Speaker 6: It's not supposed to happen at all. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to minimize that in any way, shape
Speaker 6: or form, but this was the kind of guy who
Speaker 6: even the folks in oside would say, yeah, well, this
Speaker 6: is how you're supposed to do it.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to engage with people.
Speaker 6: You don't yell and screamings at your hair on fire,
Speaker 6: that type of thing. So, in many, many ways, this
Speaker 6: is having sending shockwaves to the American political system.
Speaker 2: And you know, we'll get to more of that reaction,
Speaker 2: some of the horrendous reaction there's been to the killing.
Speaker 2: But we don't know a motive yet necessarily, but we
Speaker 2: can suspect a lot of things behind the voted for
Speaker 2: the shooting. And we've also got indications from the FBI
Speaker 2: that there was ammunition engraved with expressions of anti fascist
Speaker 2: or anti fostyle ideology and even transgender indiology ideology on
Speaker 2: the rifle and on ammunition. This has echoes of that
Speaker 2: Minnesota case, the horrible shooting of those children at that
Speaker 2: mass a couple of weeks ago. Is this something that
Speaker 2: people need to be more concerned about. Is there an
Speaker 2: issue that the FBI is going to be looking at
Speaker 2: more broadly with antifa, anti fascist and you know, also
Speaker 2: the political side of the transgender ideology here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, James you know, it's almost totally to say, you
Speaker 6: hate to hate to sort of jump to conclusions. Look
Speaker 6: what the FBI did, yes, right after the right after
Speaker 6: the shooting, the FBI came out and said they had
Speaker 6: a suspecting custody and of course it turns out that
Speaker 6: they did not. So I'm always always sort of reticent
Speaker 6: about moving three moves down the chest.
Speaker 2: Mord.
Speaker 6: I think it's to say, look, there's a lot of
Speaker 6: folks on the left today at attacking people on the
Speaker 6: right for assuming this is politically motivated. I'm not sure
Speaker 6: what else it would be. I don't know anything about
Speaker 6: the shooter, I know anything about the motives.
Speaker 1: I get all of that. But this is a.
Speaker 6: Political figure at a political event who was clearly assassinated.
Speaker 6: This is not a random act of violence walking down
Speaker 6: the street. I'm here in New York City. If I
Speaker 6: walk home tonight and I get stabbed, you know, in
Speaker 6: a mugging event, it's hard to say immediately that's a
Speaker 6: political sort of event. But this is clearly a political assassination.
Speaker 6: And I'm not sure why so many people on the
Speaker 6: left are saying, well, we can't jump to that conclusion.
Speaker 6: I'm pretty safe about that one that this was politically motivated.
Speaker 1: Why else would you do this under these circumstances.
Speaker 2: I was struck also just by, you know, the way
Speaker 2: that it looks so similar to the Thomas Crooks assassination
Speaker 2: attempt on the president, you know, finding the rooftop, squeezing
Speaker 2: off shots from that rooftop with the vantage point. But
Speaker 2: speaking of politics, not every politician has had the best
Speaker 2: reaction to this, and I was particularly struck by Illinois
Speaker 2: Governor J. B. Pritzker. Now we spoke about Pritzker last week,
Speaker 2: in the week before. He's a potential contender, he thinks,
Speaker 2: maybe for the Democratic nomination in twenty eight But have
Speaker 2: a look at this.
Speaker 3: I would just say it's got a shot, and I
Speaker 3: think there are people who are fomenting it in this country.
Speaker 8: I think the President's rhetoric often foments it.
Speaker 2: Now, this was even too much of the Washington Post,
Speaker 2: which called Pritzker's a disgracefully ill timed comment. Has he
Speaker 2: gone too far with this? And has this damaged Pritzker's
Speaker 2: campaign against Trump and the Republicans?
Speaker 1: Yes, he's gone too far. Know what, It probably hasn't
Speaker 1: hurt him.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't think number one from a practical stampoint or
Speaker 6: so far away from anybody voting, So are they're going to.
Speaker 1: Care much about it?
Speaker 6: But FA said, there's going to be some people who,
Speaker 6: quietly to themselves, are very happy that this happened.
Speaker 1: In fact, there's some people on the internet. You go
Speaker 1: find them. They're very candidate.
Speaker 2: How Yeah, we've spoken about them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: They vote and typically in Democrat primaries. So no, I
Speaker 6: don't think it hurts JP.
Speaker 1: PRETZK. That's too bad, it really is. It should hurt him.
Speaker 6: When the Democrat governor of Illinois gets taken down by
Speaker 6: the Washington Post, then you know he's crossed the line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hey, but you know, I'll tell you what though, Mick,
Speaker 2: and this has been it's been a really tough couple
Speaker 2: of days for everybody here. But you know, I spent
Speaker 2: yesterday with one of my screens just with social media
Speaker 2: and all the bile pouring across it. But Connecticut young
Speaker 2: Republicans and young Democrats in Connecticut, I was quite heartened
Speaker 2: by this story. They've issued a joint statement on social
Speaker 2: media condemning the killing, saying we reject all forms of
Speaker 2: political violence and there is no place in our country
Speaker 2: for such acts, regardless of political disagreements. Mick, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of feeling like there's a little glibber of hope here.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you reckon about that?
Speaker 6: You know, James, thank you for mentioning that, because I
Speaker 6: saw that same statement myself, and I'm like, this, this
Speaker 6: is good. This is what you hope that people will
Speaker 6: respond to, especially the young people.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind that that Charlie Kirk was that's where
Speaker 1: he made.
Speaker 6: His name for himself, was in high schools and colleges
Speaker 6: and universities and so forth, and says to have those
Speaker 6: two young groups, that young GOP, young Democrats come on
Speaker 6: and put out a joint statement is very powerful stuff.
Speaker 1: I hope it last. The broad sentiment is bipartisan here.
Speaker 6: Yes, you're going to see folks on the left celebrating
Speaker 6: this on the internet. You're gonna see folks in the
Speaker 6: right calling for retribution. But I do not get the
Speaker 6: feeling that is mainstream America or even mainstream Washington d C.
Speaker 6: The large majority of people are hoping we can come
Speaker 6: together here and do something about political violence.
Speaker 1: I hope at lasts it didn't last time, but maybe
Speaker 1: it's be different.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, just even if some mainstream
Speaker 2: it just takes one extremist, as we've seen, because I
Speaker 2: see also that you know, Probalicans Democrat NBC is reporting
Speaker 2: that both Alexandria Cosio Cortez on the left and Nancy
Speaker 2: Mace on the right are ditching upcoming events bolstering security measures.
Speaker 2: I'm really worried that in the really rough and tumble
Speaker 2: political arena of the United States, where people get out
Speaker 2: there and they're out on the streets and they're doing
Speaker 2: rallies and they're talking to people, this is going to
Speaker 2: have a real chilling effect on getting our elected representatives,
Speaker 2: getting people in public life out in the public. I'm
Speaker 2: worried about this and that there's going to have a
Speaker 2: real chilling effect on Congress, but also across you know,
Speaker 2: just political life in general. What's your thoughts about this,
Speaker 2: because you have, of course been a chief of staff,
Speaker 2: You're Trump's chief of staff, You've been involved with planning
Speaker 2: events and security and all of these things. Where do
Speaker 2: you see this going.
Speaker 1: I'm worried.
Speaker 6: I'm absolutely worried, and I'm worried in a very real, tangible,
Speaker 6: visceral personal way. James look I know we didn't talk
Speaker 6: about this before the show, but if you did this
Speaker 6: program in the United States and you were sitting here
Speaker 6: like I am in New York City, you might think
Speaker 6: and probably should think twice about walking.
Speaker 1: Home after the show.
Speaker 6: That's just that, that's the type of fear that we've got. Look,
Speaker 6: I know Nancy Mace, I know Alexandria a Costa Cortez.
Speaker 6: I don't know AOC as well as you know Nancy,
Speaker 6: but they're right to be concerned. AOC is right to
Speaker 6: be worried about a nut job on the right sort of,
Speaker 6: you know, taking vengeance in his or her own hands.
Speaker 6: And Nancy's worried about the entire environment that if it
Speaker 6: could happen to Charlie, can happen to anybody.
Speaker 1: And if it can happen to Charlie, it can't happen
Speaker 1: to anybody.
Speaker 2: Finally, I don't want to add on a dark note
Speaker 2: or a negative note, but I wasn't a little disturbed
Speaker 2: by this. Here there was a moment on the floor
Speaker 2: of Congress, which was a little depressing because Republicans won't
Speaker 2: have a moment's silence in the House. But some of
Speaker 2: the Democrats didn't like this, have a look at this.
Speaker 6: Let's let's let's wait a minute, Wait a minute, the
Speaker 6: house would be an orger nke.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like Congress could learn a few
Speaker 2: things from those young Democrats and young Republicans in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: Again, you don't want to end on a dark note.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 6: I am very, very enthusiastic and encouraged by what the
Speaker 6: young Republicans and young Democrats did in Connecticut, but maybe
Speaker 6: their parents and grandparents should take a couple lessons from them. Look,
Speaker 6: if you're wondering how long this sort of atmosphere of
Speaker 6: bipartisan encouragement of civil discourse is going to last, keep
Speaker 6: an eye on Congress, because if it starts to change it,
Speaker 6: it'll start to change their first.
Speaker 2: Meg Well, Vanie, we're gonna have to leave it there.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on this album.
Speaker 2: Very somber day. Thank you very much, Nick.
Speaker 1: Thanks James.
Speaker 2: All right, I want to bring in next Fox News
Speaker 2: contributor Joe Concha for more reaction to the horrific assassination
Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk. Joe, thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 2: First of all, I just got to ask, on a
Speaker 2: personal note, what are your thoughts your feelings, your reflections
Speaker 2: on Charlie Kirk. I don't know if you knew Charlie
Speaker 2: at all, but what are your thoughts and your reflections
Speaker 2: on what's just happened over the last forty eight hours.
Speaker 8: Well, thanks, James. You know, I met Charlie on many occasions.
Speaker 8: You know, I wouldn't say like we were friends that
Speaker 8: would vacation together type of thing, but certainly I got
Speaker 8: to know Charlie enough to know that this was a
Speaker 8: person who was principled, a person who was led by
Speaker 8: his faith in God and family first and foremost before
Speaker 8: any career and any turning point USA and any political influence.
Speaker 2: That he had.
Speaker 8: I think for many conservative young adults, James, they'll remember
Speaker 8: this day and exactly where they were when they heard
Speaker 8: that Charlie was shot or killed, the same way that
Speaker 8: older folks in our country would remember where they were
Speaker 8: where JFK was shot or when RFK was shot or
Speaker 8: Martin Luther King. Because when you think about it, there
Speaker 8: haven't been any political assassinations in the US since the sixties, right,
Speaker 8: I mean, Reagan was shot and Trump was shot, but
Speaker 8: they survived. So this was as shocking as that, and
Speaker 8: I think Ultimately, the Charlie Kirk will go down as
Speaker 8: one of the great patriots of the twenty first century
Speaker 8: and perhaps of all time in this country politically. When
Speaker 8: you think about what he decided to do at just
Speaker 8: age eighteen, Sean, I mean, I think about, like, you
Speaker 8: know what I was thinking about at age eighteen, like
Speaker 8: where am I going on spring break.
Speaker 1: In college next year? Or I'm not sure where.
Speaker 8: Your thought process was probably about the same to start
Speaker 8: this movement of turning point USA literally from scratch. And
Speaker 8: this wasn't somebody who shouted people down. He believed in debate,
Speaker 8: open ideas, He loaws censorship, and he would do these
Speaker 8: things at his events where he would tell people, if
Speaker 8: you disagree with me the most, come to the front
Speaker 8: and let's talk about it and go back and forth
Speaker 8: with them.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 8: So overall, more and more there seems to be people
Speaker 8: in this country, James, who have no interest in debate. Instead,
Speaker 8: they want to silence those they disagree with through censorship
Speaker 8: or violence or.
Speaker 1: Even in this case death.
Speaker 8: I mean, we've seen too many Democrats say that Donald Trump,
Speaker 8: for instance, is a threat to democracy or in the
Speaker 8: words of one congressman here named Dan Gold and who
Speaker 8: said that Donald Trump needs to be eliminated. James Homey
Speaker 8: spells out eighty six forty seven on a beach, which
Speaker 8: means clearly take out the forty seventh president eighty six
Speaker 8: to ten, or President Biden saying four days before Donald
Speaker 8: Trump was shot in Butler, Pennsylvania in July of twenty
Speaker 8: twenty four, that Trump quote needed to be put in
Speaker 8: a bullseye unquote. So this rhetoric needs to stop because
Speaker 8: we could say, oh, this could have deadly consequences. Now
Speaker 8: we see it does have deadly consequences.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I loved Barack Obama the other day tweeting all,
Speaker 2: you know, peace, love and mung beans reaction to Charlie
Speaker 2: Kirk's death. But he was the guy who said when
Speaker 2: they bring a knife to a gunfight, you bring a gun,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, he was the ultimate guy in
Speaker 2: all of this. But there's so much hypocrisy on this
Speaker 2: and I want to ast your reaction to this one here,
Speaker 2: because there's been a lot of people on the left
Speaker 2: have been really hating. But one person on the left,
Speaker 2: he tries to say that they're being nice about this.
Speaker 2: New York City mayoral candidate, the socialist Zoran Mom Donnie tweeted,
Speaker 2: I'm horrified by the shooting of Charlie Kirk at a
Speaker 2: college event. Political violence has no place in our country,
Speaker 2: but this seems incredibly hypocritical because just two years ago
Speaker 2: this was a guy who was calling on a ban
Speaker 2: on Charlie Kirk and his talking Turning Point USA group
Speaker 2: holding an event in Queen's Joe. I think Zorn needs
Speaker 2: to understand a bit more of the of the spirit
Speaker 2: that Charlie Kirk operated with.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess Charlie didn't operate in the spirit of
Speaker 8: globalized the Infantada, which obviously marn then Donnie has defended,
Speaker 8: or the fact. I mean, I could go on and
Speaker 8: on as far as m Donnie is concerned, but overall, yeah,
Speaker 8: the hypocrisy is overwhelming. I mean, we saw Stephen Colbert,
Speaker 8: for example, talking about how there is no place for
Speaker 8: violence in this country and we never should be calling
Speaker 8: for anybody to be hurt. He said that on a
Speaker 8: show you know this week, and well you can go
Speaker 8: back and look at the clips where he literally said
Speaker 8: that let's put Donald Trump and a blu factory, which means,
Speaker 8: you know, let's kill him right before he could actually
Speaker 8: inflict some harm. Tim Walls, who was the vice presidential candidate, James,
Speaker 8: he was literally rooting for just last week news that
Speaker 8: Donald Trump was actually dead when Legacy media here pushs
Speaker 8: that whole ridiculous gossip rumer around because Donald Trump hadn't
Speaker 8: spoke to the press in two days, when interestingly enough,
Speaker 8: like Joe Biden would go like a month without speaking
Speaker 8: to the press, and no one ever questioned that. I
Speaker 8: could go on and on James, but yeah, the hypocrisy
Speaker 8: is thick, so thick you could cut it with the knife,
Speaker 8: as the old saying.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the ones that I think has made
Speaker 2: a lot of headlines at least here in Australia was
Speaker 2: one of the analysts at MSNBC. Here was how he
Speaker 2: talked about the shooting.
Speaker 9: We don't know if this was the supporter shooting their
Speaker 9: gun off in celebration, so we have no idea about this.
Speaker 1: But following up.
Speaker 9: What was just said, he's been one of the most divisive,
Speaker 9: especially divisive younger figures in this who is constantly sort
Speaker 9: of pushing the sort of hate speech or sort of
Speaker 9: aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to
Speaker 9: hateful thoughts lead to hateful words which then lead to
Speaker 9: hateful actions.
Speaker 2: Now, Joe, he wound up getting fired for that. He
Speaker 2: lost his giggle on FSMBC. The network apologized. But here's
Speaker 2: the thing, He's not alone. This is the way an
Speaker 2: awful lot of people think.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there have been some despicable comments made after this assassination.
Speaker 8: I mean, obviously you mentioned Matthew Dowd, who is a
Speaker 8: profoundly horrible human being, actually blaming Charlie Kirk himself the
Speaker 8: same way Matthew Dowd blamed Donald Trump after his assassination
Speaker 8: attempts for in Dowd's mind, you know, they've bought it
Speaker 8: on themselves and therefore they deserved it. We also heard
Speaker 8: on MSNBC that maybe a Trump supporter, and again that
Speaker 8: was Dowd said, well, maybe he's just celebrating and shoot
Speaker 8: in the moment and accidentally hit Charlie Kirk. I mean,
Speaker 8: this is utterly delusional, and the fact that this aired
Speaker 8: on national television is reckless and it's rants so overall, Look,
Speaker 8: you would think that after nine to eleven, for example,
Speaker 8: we saw our media here in the United States report
Speaker 8: responsibly and everybody as citizens came together.
Speaker 1: We're not seeing this.
Speaker 8: Now, I'm not comparing nine to eleven to the assassination
Speaker 8: of Charlie Kirk, but you would think that this would
Speaker 8: be a ninety nine to one issue where most people
Speaker 8: here in the country would say this is horrible, this
Speaker 8: is wrong.
Speaker 10: This is a dad of.
Speaker 8: A very young daughter and a baby boy, and this
Speaker 8: is so sad that his wife, Erica has to go
Speaker 8: through this. Instead, we're seeing this almost like a fifty
Speaker 8: to fifty thing where people are saying, well, because Charlie
Speaker 8: Kirk engaged in some dialogue I didn't agree with, therefore
Speaker 8: maybe he deserved it. It's disturbing.
Speaker 2: Gee well, and this reaches right to the top. It's
Speaker 2: not just crazy people in academia and just weirdos on TikTok.
Speaker 2: This was Joe Biden's former press secretary, Jen Saki. Haven't
Speaker 2: listened to this.
Speaker 5: And obviously there's a lot of rhetoric that is problematic.
Speaker 11: A lot of it is coming from one particular side
Speaker 11: and from one particular building.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's a harmful rhetoric from the right
Speaker 2: here again that's causing this. It's this sort of climate
Speaker 2: of violence sort of thing. We've seen this over and
Speaker 2: over again in American history where whenever something goes wrong
Speaker 2: they blame the right for their words.
Speaker 1: Wow, fascinating? Was it the right? Was Joe Biden?
Speaker 8: Is he on the right because the last check he
Speaker 8: is not. And when he was president four days before
Speaker 8: an assassination attempt was engaged on Donald Trump and Butler, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 8: July thirteen, twenty twenty four, Joe Biden, the sitting president,
Speaker 8: said it is time to put Donald Trump quote in
Speaker 8: a bullseye unquote.
Speaker 2: Huh oh.
Speaker 8: I know Donald Trump was nearly assassinated twice, and I
Speaker 8: know Charlie Kirk, my friend, is dead. So yeah, give
Speaker 8: me the examples on the left of people dying. I'd
Speaker 8: love to hear it, because it just doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: Joe Cars, Look, we're gonna have to leave it there.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time to discuss all
Speaker 2: of this. Now, stick around because after the break we're
Speaker 2: gonna have Robert Barnes to talk more about all of this.
Speaker 2: But I also don't want to be all doing gloom tonight,
Speaker 2: because hey, did you catch this? Donald Trump hit the
Speaker 2: town in DC the other night to show just how
Speaker 2: safe the streets were, and he went to a restaurant
Speaker 2: and guess what. He got confronted by some protesters, so
Speaker 2: he turned the tables, so to speak.
Speaker 8: Lay your dinner.
Speaker 2: Good on. I'm going to have a little bit of
Speaker 2: a chat to the protesters. I wonder if they were
Speaker 2: interested in a robusted debate. Robert Barnes in a tick.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program, and in a moment I'll
Speaker 2: be joined by trial lawyer Robert Barnes. But first I
Speaker 2: want to talk about some more disturbing reaction to the
Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk. Now listen to this. Here I'm going
Speaker 2: to show you some vision from inside the newsroom of
Speaker 2: entertainment website TMZ, and they can be clearly heard applauding
Speaker 2: and cheering the news as the news of the death
Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk is announced. Listen to this.
Speaker 10: It's the news conference is scheduled for three o'clock and
Speaker 10: Utah time, which is two o'clock Pacific, five o'clock Eastern.
Speaker 1: Janet go.
Speaker 2: Lovely stuff. And while that the outfit thought fit to
Speaker 2: post that, But you know, it's all part of a
Speaker 2: bigger problem people thinking it is perfectly okay to react
Speaker 2: joyously to the death of someone they don't like, someone
Speaker 2: they disagree with. Now we've seen this through countless TikTok
Speaker 2: videos and social media posts Blue Sky where all the
Speaker 2: lefties left X after Elon Musk took over, there was
Speaker 2: a veritable sewero celebration, as you see on your green
Speaker 2: and teachers in healthcare workers apparently have been among the
Speaker 2: worst offenders. All Rica was.
Speaker 11: All in it teasy because she gonna tell me that
Speaker 11: Charlie Kirk gotshay.
Speaker 1: And I say it good.
Speaker 2: So we get into this whole conversation about it, and
Speaker 2: she goes, well, you can't hate people.
Speaker 1: For their political views.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yes, I can like that specifically why
Speaker 4: I hate people Sometime?
Speaker 2: If you're on the right of politics, do you want
Speaker 2: to be taken care of by somebody like that? Have
Speaker 2: your kids taught by somebody who shares those sorts of views?
Speaker 2: I don't, And I have to wonder what's going on here?
Speaker 2: How did it get to this? Why are people so
Speaker 2: open about their hate? Well, my friend Miranda and Vine
Speaker 2: you know her well from this program and the New
Speaker 2: York Post summed it up well. She said they wouldn't
Speaker 2: be rushing to film themselves saying this if they didn't
Speaker 2: believe there was a wide audience applauding them and cultural
Speaker 2: cachet to be had. That is the culture democrats of Foster.
Speaker 2: Now they have to take responsibility and unfoster it not
Speaker 2: both sides. It spot on, Miranda. But you know what,
Speaker 2: not too optimistic things are going to change anytime soon.
Speaker 2: All right, now, let's bring in Robert Barnes, trial lawyer,
Speaker 2: Robert Barnes. Robert, thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 2: the program. A very somber day here a lot of
Speaker 2: reaction to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. You did Charlie's podcast,
Speaker 2: I believe, tell us what it was like working with Charlie,
Speaker 2: how was he as way to work with and what
Speaker 2: we had general impressions of the man just having dealt
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 12: Yeah, So I followed Charlie throughout his entire career. A
Speaker 12: young guy started out as sort of a Norman Conservative,
Speaker 12: sort of a Ben Shapiro kind of personality, started turning
Speaker 12: point when I think he was eighteen years old, out
Speaker 12: of his garage and he built it into one of
Speaker 12: the most extraordinary young people political movement in the history
Speaker 12: of the country. And in watching him do it, was
Speaker 12: fascinated by his willingness, his eagerness to achieve extraordinary things,
Speaker 12: his fearlessness, and that advocacy took on reaching out to
Speaker 12: young people especially the other thing that always struck me
Speaker 12: about Charlie, and you know, I got the chance to
Speaker 12: be friends with him. A very nice guy, very open guy,
Speaker 12: you know, not like a lot of the diva personalities
Speaker 12: you might get with you know, success, He had none
Speaker 12: of that.
Speaker 2: He was very accessible.
Speaker 12: He would do favors for friends, you know, with you know,
Speaker 12: at a drop of a hat.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 12: He would record videos for people. He would do do
Speaker 12: it for free all the time. He would do things
Speaker 12: out of his own on his own time and his
Speaker 12: own dime all the time. Very open minded, very curious guy,
Speaker 12: willing to change his opinion on topics, on subjects, on policies.
Speaker 12: A true throwback to old school American dialogue and debate
Speaker 12: in the best of the Enlightenment tradition. He was truly,
Speaker 12: as some people have said, he was the best America
Speaker 12: had to offer. And his assassination as a tragedy not
Speaker 12: only for his obviously his young daughters and young daughter,
Speaker 12: young son, and his young wife, but for America itself
Speaker 12: because it looks like political violence is getting a permission
Speaker 12: slip from the left, and as long as that happens,
Speaker 12: we're going to face a lot more of it, and
Speaker 12: we're going to look at you know, we're gonna look
Speaker 12: like the sixties all over again.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing I'm really worried about, Robert, is this,
Speaker 2: you know, threat that we go back to the sixties.
Speaker 2: You know, when you had Bobby Martin, JFK, you had
Speaker 2: in the seventies, you had an incredible wave of weather,
Speaker 2: underground bombings, all sorts of bobbings by Puerto Rican nationalists,
Speaker 2: various different groups. We forget all about that. Now that
Speaker 2: wasn't living memory of an awful lot of people, people
Speaker 2: you know, older than you know, their fifties to sixties.
Speaker 2: They woul to remember all this. We seem to have
Speaker 2: forgotten about this. How concerned are you that America is
Speaker 2: going to descend back into this? Because while I know
Speaker 2: there's been political violence on both sides of politics and
Speaker 2: victims on both sides, only one side seems to get
Speaker 2: on social media and cheer when it happens, no doubt
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 12: And what we've seen is if you study American history,
Speaker 12: that usually the people committing the violence. Are these psychopaths
Speaker 12: and sociopaths getting to act out their sick fantasies. They're
Speaker 12: sick violent fantasies, but the violence tends to take to
Speaker 12: a whole new Usually those fantasies stay in their head
Speaker 12: until and unless somebody with power gives them a political
Speaker 12: permission slip. What Miranda Devine was talking about, a cultural
Speaker 12: cachet for doing the violence. That's when you see a
Speaker 12: surge of violence. We saw it around the time of
Speaker 12: the Civil War in America, again during a lot of
Speaker 12: the anarchists driven violence of the late nineteenth early twentieth century. Then,
Speaker 12: of course saw it in Europe in the nineteen twenties
Speaker 12: and nineteen thirties between communists and fascists. We saw it
Speaker 12: again in the United States in the nineteen sixties. I
Speaker 12: studied in detail when I was in school the history
Speaker 12: of the ku Klux Klan, and what you find is
Speaker 12: that organization's violence surged and waned with political permission slips
Speaker 12: by the local and broader political community. That when the
Speaker 12: community condemned them, that violence disappeared and faded in the background,
Speaker 12: became rare and exceptional. When, by contrast, like at the
Speaker 12: after the Civil War, like again in the nineteen twenties,
Speaker 12: like again in the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties, when
Speaker 12: they got a political you know, wink in a nod
Speaker 12: from the powers that be, that's when the violence exploded.
Speaker 12: And we've been seeing this political permission slip since Trump
Speaker 12: got on the scene.
Speaker 2: Robert, I want to just ask you some very quickly.
Speaker 2: You talked about having studied the Ku Klux Klan before
Speaker 2: earlier in the program. I said this would be a
Speaker 2: great opportunity for the FBI and the Justice Department to
Speaker 2: do to Antifa what LBJ did through Hoover to the clan.
Speaker 2: Is this something that you would think would be a
Speaker 2: good idea now for the FBI, for the province Justice
Speaker 2: to break these networks of these hard left, radical violent groups. Absolutely.
Speaker 12: I've been calling for it for a while because it
Speaker 12: was clear the riots in twenty sixteen were not all
Speaker 12: organic that unlike Charlie Kirk's organization, many of these protests,
Speaker 12: many of these violent movements, have showed the signs of sponsorship,
Speaker 12: of patronage, of financial support. The Trump administration is getting
Speaker 12: serious about cracking down on all the funders. The supporters,
Speaker 12: the facilitators, the aiders, and the abetters, the enablers of
Speaker 12: this dangerous violence. And we've got to at a minimum,
Speaker 12: stop the political permission, slip shame and all the people
Speaker 12: that do it, and go after criminally and civilly the
Speaker 12: financial networks that are encouraging this and incentivizing it. We
Speaker 12: need to crack down on this politicized violence now and
Speaker 12: everybody who's funding it, abling it, and enabling it.
Speaker 2: Robert Barnes, thank you so much for that perspective. I'm
Speaker 2: really glad we had you on the program this week.
Speaker 2: I stick around because we're going to have more on
Speaker 2: the horrific events for the past forty eight hours after
Speaker 2: the break, as well as a new survey about the
Speaker 2: left of their priorities that may just have a solution
Speaker 2: to the fertility crisis. But first, an amazing moment on
Speaker 2: the View this week, as will Be Goldberg discovers the internet.
Speaker 2: Apparently you can read Supreme Court decisions there. Who knew?
Speaker 4: And we know that you can't comment on a legal
Speaker 4: cases pending, but as Sonny said, you know the ruling
Speaker 4: yesterday about ice rays. I'm just curious, how are they
Speaker 4: going to know who is who.
Speaker 2: Read my descent?
Speaker 4: Where where can people find these descents?
Speaker 2: Because I think.
Speaker 4: People always think they're not available to regular folks. Is
Speaker 4: there a place to online?
Speaker 1: Online?
Speaker 2: Online? Amazing? Wait till somebody tells her about VCRs. Why
Speaker 2: the Left art having babies? After the break? Welcome back
Speaker 2: to the program. Well, joining me now is political commentator
Speaker 2: Stephanie Hammell. Back on the program, Stephanie. Is a terrible
Speaker 2: grim day to be having a chat here, but glad
Speaker 2: to have you here. In any case, I want to
Speaker 2: ask you your own personal reaction to the horrible news
Speaker 2: and events with Charlie Kirk. I know you'd met him
Speaker 2: a number of times and interviewed him when you were
Speaker 2: working at the Daily Caller. I just love some of
Speaker 2: your personal reflections on Charlie Kirk, the man and what
Speaker 2: he was like to work with for our viewers.
Speaker 11: Hi James, it's great to see you, and yes, today
Speaker 11: is a very dark day. Not only is are we
Speaker 11: remembering the attacks on September eleventh, but also what happened
Speaker 11: to Charlie Kirk at the event in Utah. And you're right,
Speaker 11: I've known Charlie Kirk for I don't know since like
Speaker 11: twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen. We've collaborated with media segments over
Speaker 11: the years. I was also a Turning Point ambassador. I
Speaker 11: had been to several of the Turning Point events, have
Speaker 11: even had the opportunity to speak on stage. And you know,
Speaker 11: it's just so heartbreaking. My heart goes out to his family,
Speaker 11: his wife, his babies. I mean, I just can't even
Speaker 11: begin to imagine what they're going through. This is a
Speaker 11: tough time in our country. Charlie Kirk was a once
Speaker 11: in a generation leader, a voice, a very successful young man, inspirational,
Speaker 11: he was just amazing at bringing people together. Think about
Speaker 11: this movement that he started. The interview that you referenced
Speaker 11: for the Daily Caller, he told me about his first
Speaker 11: event where only four people showed up and they were
Speaker 11: just his friends. And if you go to if you'd
Speaker 11: been into any of the recent events or seeing the videos,
Speaker 11: you'll see that there's thousands and thousands of students from
Speaker 11: across the country who attend these events. It's like a
Speaker 11: rock concert. He really impacted the conservative movement like no other.
Speaker 11: I mean, just bringing the youth forward, letting them speak
Speaker 11: their minds, letting them share their pro America values, their
Speaker 11: family values, and to be unapologetic about it. It is
Speaker 11: truly disturbing that we live in a country where there
Speaker 11: are people who don't just disagree with conservatives, but they
Speaker 11: actually want to murder us. And we've seen this time
Speaker 11: and time again. It wasn't that long ago that there
Speaker 11: was an attack on our in a topt on his life,
Speaker 11: not once, but twice. So what happened to Charlie Kirk
Speaker 11: as representative of what some people want to do to
Speaker 11: the rest of us who speak out, who want to
Speaker 11: value our freedom of speech, who want to value what
Speaker 11: makes this country great. It really is just terribly tragic.
Speaker 2: Where does the movement go from here? Now that we've
Speaker 2: lost Charlie and there's so much you know, attack on
Speaker 2: people who have moved into this camp, moved from the
Speaker 2: left to the right, particularly this young demographics, preuly young
Speaker 2: men who are now you know, they realize they didn't
Speaker 2: have to swallow the left wing pill that they've been
Speaker 2: taught by the popular culture and in the schools. How
Speaker 2: do they carry this on now?
Speaker 11: Yeah, something I've been thinking about, and as you guys
Speaker 11: reference in one of the other segments with another guess,
Speaker 11: is that there are people who are celebrating this brutal
Speaker 11: assassination of Charlie Kirk. But what they don't realize is
Speaker 11: that they have unleashed something that they can't even imagine.
Speaker 11: We will not be silenced those in the conservative movement
Speaker 11: who have been speaking out. We are feeling more emboldened
Speaker 11: than ever, and we know that Charlie would want us
Speaker 11: to keep going forward.
Speaker 1: We're going to keep going to events.
Speaker 11: We're going to keep speaking out, and we're going to
Speaker 11: keep winning people over with our ideas. We don't need
Speaker 11: to resort to violence because our ideas are smart, it's
Speaker 11: common sense, they work. That's why we're bringing people to
Speaker 11: our side. And that's why there are so many people
Speaker 11: who are triggered by this and feel like, you know,
Speaker 11: they can't win with their ideas, so they want to
Speaker 11: physically harm us. And as for where the movement goes,
Speaker 11: it's not going to end. I mean it is a
Speaker 11: growing movement and there are so many of us who
Speaker 11: will continue on and carry on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think that's absolutely right. I think it
Speaker 2: will carry on. I think what Charlie did was give
Speaker 2: people the permission structure to say what they actually thought
Speaker 2: and not just you know, regurgitate what they've been told
Speaker 2: to say. But just a few other bits of news
Speaker 2: around that. I want to get your reaction on this,
Speaker 2: and I want to get your reaction on this before
Speaker 2: all of these horrible events, because there was a fascinating
Speaker 2: poll and I think NBC did it that revealed that
Speaker 2: gen Z the gender divide on politics is absolutely massive.
Speaker 2: But what was really interesting to me was about their
Speaker 2: life priorities. And it found that for gen Z males,
Speaker 2: those who voted for Trump, those people voted, those young guys,
Speaker 2: said the most important thing for personal success for them
Speaker 2: would be to have a kid, have kids, have families,
Speaker 2: whereas gen Z females who voted for Kamala Harris ranked
Speaker 2: that as the second least most important thing in their life.
Speaker 2: Is this the key to this whole birth rate fertility
Speaker 2: crisis that the left and particularly leftist young women don't
Speaker 2: want to have kids anymore? What's going on there?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I saw this poll, and of course that's if
Speaker 11: you believe the polls, and I actually do believe this one.
Speaker 11: And this is a multi layered issue that you know,
Speaker 11: we could spend hours dissecting. There's so much that goes
Speaker 11: into this I think a lot of young people feel
Speaker 11: like they can't afford marriage, that they can't afford to
Speaker 11: have family, because it's tough just getting by by yourself.
Speaker 11: I mean, it's almost impossible for young people to buy
Speaker 11: their first home now if you look at the cost
Speaker 11: of living, and so I think that's one factor that
Speaker 11: goes into it.
Speaker 5: And I think another.
Speaker 11: Factor is that young people have been bombarded with propaganda, indoctrinated.
Speaker 11: We've been told that babies in the womb are disposable,
Speaker 11: that they are garbage, that it's not human life. We
Speaker 11: have heard from so many people that you know, family
Speaker 11: doesn't matter, and I just can't think of anything more
Speaker 11: important than family. As a mother of two, I get
Speaker 11: emotional thinking about just Yeah, it makes me sad how
Speaker 11: young people have been misguided and misled. It is amazing
Speaker 11: being a mother and to be a wife. There's nothing
Speaker 11: more important than that. And that is also a shared
Speaker 11: value that Charlie Kirk spoke about that there was nothing
Speaker 11: more important than family, and I'm glad that he got
Speaker 11: to experience that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stephanie, thank you so much for your time. I'm
Speaker 2: in free reflection tonight, really appreciate We'll have you back again,
Speaker 2: hopefully unhappier circumstances. Thank you so much. Now, don't go anywhere,
Speaker 2: because we're gonna have a special Only in America coming
Speaker 2: up next. But first, just released audio has come in
Speaker 2: of White House Chief of Staff Susie Wilds, telling us
Speaker 2: what she told her people after the news came through
Speaker 2: about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 5: We have a lot of high profile people here that
Speaker 5: engage publicly and in the media, and they say things.
Speaker 1: Others might not like.
Speaker 5: So I called everybody in before they went home last
Speaker 5: night and said, go home, hug your children, hug your spouse,
Speaker 5: be careful, take precautions, and don't let your voice get softer.
Speaker 5: Charlie would want everybody to speak as they had.
Speaker 2: Been and more one hundred percent. Stick around Only in
Speaker 2: America next, and now it's time for a little segment
Speaker 2: we like to call Only in America. Well, normally this
Speaker 2: is the point of the show where we play something
Speaker 2: really wacky and fun and goofy, but instead, in honor
Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk, I'd like to finish the show with
Speaker 2: a little clip of the man talking about why he
Speaker 2: does what he does and the threats he faced every
Speaker 2: day right until the.
Speaker 10: End the people.
Speaker 3: I go around universities and have challenging conversations and because
Speaker 3: that's what is so important to our country is to
Speaker 3: find our disagreements respectfully, because when people stop talking, that's
Speaker 3: when violence happens.
Speaker 1: I've never seen someone jovi.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a growing trend because people like me are
Speaker 3: facing violence assault the left, yes, the campus Antifa. I've
Speaker 3: been stormed out of restaurants. I've been assaulted publicly, multiple
Speaker 3: death threats.
Speaker 1: So what's your dog.
Speaker 3: There's more people that agree with me than some people
Speaker 3: would actually believe, and they come out of the woodwork
Speaker 3: when I do stuff like this. We record all of
Speaker 3: it so that we put on the internet so people
Speaker 3: can see these ideas collide. When people stop talking, that's
Speaker 3: when you get violence. That's when civil war happens because
Speaker 3: you start to think the other side is so evil
Speaker 3: and they.
Speaker 1: Lose their humanity.
Speaker 2: Damn straight, Let's never stop talking. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,