WEBVTT - The U.S. Report | 12 September 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:05.440 This is the US Report with James Morrow. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:10.160 Good evening and welcome to the program at the end 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:12.280 of a very somber week. And I tell you what, 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.040 in all the years of doing this program, this would 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.640 have to be the grimmest US Report I've ever presented. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.119 It's now a little over thirty six hours since the 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.079 news broke that Charlie Kirk, and he needs no introduction, 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.160 was taken out by a single shot from a sniper's 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:32.600 bullet in Utah. His crime, his provocation, well, we don't 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.640 know for sure, but it is a fair bit bet 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.960 that the only thing he did wrong, the only thing 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.320 that attracted that assassin's bullet, was to be a conservative, 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.320 an outspoken conservative who had an incredible talent for bringing 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.000 young people over to his side of politics through his 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.519 famous Change My Mind debates series, where he would sit 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.920 at a table and literally take all comers and use 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:01.880 reason and Socratic dialogue to argue his case and win converts. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.440 Kirk was incredibly passionate about America and young people, and 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.560 getting young people to believe in a brighter future when 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.880 they were born into a system that seemed and indeed 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:17.400 seems to be failing them. He built the massive Turning 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:22.160 Point USA network, and he got results. He managed to 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:26.160 help massive numbers of young Americans, particularly young men, move 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.480 away from the left and the leftist indoctrination they'd received 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.800 every day of their lives through the schools and popular culture. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.200 And of course he was close to President Trump and 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:41.400 the MAGA movement. They killed him, but his legacy will 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:47.080 be the most conservative generation in generations. What happened this 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.960 week is not just a terrible tragedy for Kirk, his widow, 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.240 and his two young children left without a father. It 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:58.000 is also a tragedy for America because it represents an 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:03.840 incredibly dangerous escalation of leftist violets, or rather, I should say, 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:09.640 an escalation of the leftist celebration of violence. Because while 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.680 it is true that over the years Democrats as well 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:15.480 as Republicans have lost their lives to political violence in America, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.080 and all of that is bad, all of that is evil, 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.440 all of that needs to stop, only one side seems 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:23.560 to celebrate it. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.080 Do you support his death? 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.160 Do you support his death, Charlie Trudy, You support. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:29.839 Charlie Kirk being killed? 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:30.079 Yes? 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.200 I do. On the day that you're here at a vigil, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.440 ye for Charlie Kirk, and you support his death. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.440 Support a Nazi? No, I don't support a Nazi. 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:38.920 Charlie Kirk wasn't a Nazi by. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.160 The sword, died by the sword. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.840 He did say that gun deaths were an acceptable side 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.080 effect of gun rights. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.880 And unfortunately that means your wife is going to be 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.320 raising her kids potentially alone. But at least everyone still 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:53.760 gets access to all their guns. 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.200 I love that last one in particular. You see the 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.440 logic here. Kirk was a supporter of the Second Amendment 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.960 right to bear arms, and for that the left thinks 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:15.639 he deserves to have been shot. Now that's some great 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:20.000 but I think very telling logic there, because what are 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:25.080 they saying, take away our guns otherwise we'll be forced 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:30.440 to shoot you. Seriously, it's right up there with Islam 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.720 is a religion of peace and death to anyone who 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:37.560 says otherwise. A visibly rattled Trump himself, the victim of 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.880 two assassination attempts, addressed the hate on the left shortly 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:42.760 after the killing. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.600 It's a long pastime for all Americans and the media 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.240 to confront the fact that violence and murder are the 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:55.560 tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree day 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.960 after day, year after year, in the most hateful and 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:03.680 despicable way possible. For years, those on the radical left 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:08.560 have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:14.040 world's worst mass murderers and criminals. This kind of rhetoric 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:18.640 is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.720 our country today, and it must stop right now. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.840 Look he's right, but if I may disagree a little 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.000 bit here with the President, I don't want to buy 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:32.320 in too much to the mean words cause violence argument 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.599 because I think there is something deeper going on. This 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:40.520 is more than words. Now. The left, if you know 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.960 your history, and I know you do, has a real 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.760 neolistic darkness at its heart, at the heart of its soul, 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.160 despite all of its peace, love and mung beans rhetoric. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:58.920 Kirk represented everything the left hates, happiness, family, christianity. Look 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.479 at him here and look at what he left behind. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:07.279 And now now he's dead. Here's his coffin being carried 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.640 by Vice President J. D. Vance after landing in his 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:28.680 home state of Arizona. There's no words for that. And 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:32.840 unlike conservatives who want to preserve and to build, those 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.200 on the left, the revolutionary left. They want to tear 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.640 down and start anew, to build their own utopia. It 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.760 has been the same ever since the terror of the 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.040 French Revolution, right through the communist upheavals of the twentieth 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:49.359 century right through to today, and death or too often 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.000 is part of that program, because if you're in the 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:56.520 way of the road to utopia, you will be crushed. Now, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.520 the great question now, in this moment of grief, sadness, 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.640 has anger, is what to do next? And already there 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.839 are reports that the bullets the killer fired or planned 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.560 a fire, were engraved with expressions of transgender and so 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:16.680 called anti anti fascist ideology. And we now know, we 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:21.760 all know what's so called anti fascist or antifa ideology 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:26.240 is all about riots, threats, destruction in the name of politics. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:32.279 And I think this opens a new possibility here. Now 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.560 whether or not the killer is part of a broader 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:38.520 network of organized activists remains to be seen, but either way, 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.640 this should be the final spur required to force the FBI, 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.120 now run by Cash Pattel, to do something that should 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:53.279 have been done years ago, that is, smash antifa, the 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.800 so called anti fascist militant organization that happens to run 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.440 around like a bunch of fascists smashing and rock and 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.159 everything else and all the other militant organizing groups that 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.080 have been driving violent protests in America since at least 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.640 the twenty twenty Summer of Love. And this is a 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.200 great precedent. There is a great precedent for this in 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:20.160 the nineteen sixties under President Lyndon Johnson, a president who, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.840 let's be honest, had a lot of flaws, to say 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:27.520 the least, did something good. He ordered this man the 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:32.000 head of the FBI, j Edgar Hoover, another deeply flawed individual. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:36.280 But that's another story, to take down the KKK, the 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.600 Ku Klux Klan. Now. Back then they used the Civil 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.680 Rights Act to smash the organization that had been responsible 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.000 for horrendous murders and bombings in the South, killing both 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:51.480 Black Americans and white civil rights workers. Today, there's another option, 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:56.440 use anti racketeering statues known as RICO to go after 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:01.280 Antifa and other such groups. Again, whether or not kirks 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.080 Killer turns out to have been part of a more 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:07.960 organized group, there is already early evidence suggesting he was 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:13.360 influenced by what is broadly, if entirely inaccurately referred to 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.680 as the anti fascist movement, which has been responsible for 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.120 so much mayhem in the US, including riots and partial 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.920 occupations of cities like Seattle, smashing antif I would go 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.880 a long way to disrupt violent, radical left protest movements 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.360 that were previously tacitly or otherwise encouraged by the left, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.360 including the Biden and Obama administrations, to act as shock 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.240 troops for their own agendas. It will be a small start, 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.360 but an important one, and it is a time of tragedy. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:49.640 Feeling powerless is the worst thing. This idea, though, gives 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.760 a broader agenda for the administration that might also be 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.400 a good way to signal to the rest of America 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.720 that they've got their back and that the bad guys 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:04.720 aren't gonna win. All right, Well, let's get straight into 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.440 it with our us port regular former White House Chief 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:12.240 of Staff and senior advisor of Bondi Partners, Mick mulvaney. Mick, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.640 a very tragic week here. I'd love to just get 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.679 your personal reaction to this incredible tragedy, the killing of 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:25.080 Charlie Kirk less than forty eight hours ago. Did you 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:26.680 know the man? Had you met him. What were your 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.840 impressions of Charlie Kirk. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.959 Yeah, James, I was one of the few conservatives who 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.440 probably didn't know Charlie very well. I had met him 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.560 a couple of times, but for whatever reasons, our paths 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.720 didn't cross. But when you move in the same circles 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.680 that we do, I've reached out to have dozens of 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.240 people reach out to me today the last couple of 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:51.559 days actually to talk about him. He was widely admired 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.880 on the right, especially for the type of things that 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.880 probably don't get reported very much. He's just supposedly a 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:03.640 really decent guy, good father, great husband, that kind of stuff. 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.040 So a lot of things you forget about when you 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.439 do what some of us do for a living, when 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.079 you talk to a camera for a living, you talk 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.520 to groups for a living, that sometimes that human part 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.360 of you gets lost. And there's a lot of folks 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.479 talking openly now but just what a great human being. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:19.880 He was and how much they appreciate him. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.559 So look, it's I know we're going to talk a 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.079 little bit about the impact, but the humanity certainly shouldn't 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:27.000 be lost on anybody. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:28.960 Yeah, And I mean, and that's one of the things 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.640 that truly struck me about this is that, you know, 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.200 I mean, obviously all political violence is absolutely wrong. But 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:39.720 for this guy whose entire you know, routine, for lack 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.120 of a better word, his whole way of operating was 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.160 a dialogue and engaging the other side to be the 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.760 target of so much hate and vitriol we've seen, you know, 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.000 not only of course with the shooting itself, but in 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.880 the aftermath it seems to be so contradictory. 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:57.840 Yeah, That's what I think is shaking a lot of 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.720 people here, is that even my demo crat friends who 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.280 don't like him, and there's a lot of them, and 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.599 they didn't like him very much, certainly didn't like his politics, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.000 you know, admire the fact that he would sit down 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:08.960 and talk to people. He was one of those folks 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.800 who wouldn't want to sit down and talk with you, 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.600 not necessarily talk at you. And I think that's what's 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.440 really sort of settling in with folks in a very 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.040 uncomfortable way, which is this, This is not supposed to happen. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.560 It's not supposed to happen at all. Don't get me wrong. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.480 I'm not trying to minimize that in any way, shape 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.200 or form, but this was the kind of guy who 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.080 even the folks in oside would say, yeah, well, this 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:32.920 is how you're supposed to do it. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.080 He's supposed to engage with people. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.760 You don't yell and screamings at your hair on fire, 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.839 that type of thing. So, in many, many ways, this 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.840 is having sending shockwaves to the American political system. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.120 And you know, we'll get to more of that reaction, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.120 some of the horrendous reaction there's been to the killing. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:55.080 But we don't know a motive yet necessarily, but we 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.160 can suspect a lot of things behind the voted for 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.400 the shooting. And we've also got indications from the FBI 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.680 that there was ammunition engraved with expressions of anti fascist 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:11.160 or anti fostyle ideology and even transgender indiology ideology on 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.880 the rifle and on ammunition. This has echoes of that 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.280 Minnesota case, the horrible shooting of those children at that 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:23.760 mass a couple of weeks ago. Is this something that 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.200 people need to be more concerned about. Is there an 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.320 issue that the FBI is going to be looking at 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:32.320 more broadly with antifa, anti fascist and you know, also 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.840 the political side of the transgender ideology here. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.840 Yeah, James you know, it's almost totally to say, you 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.520 hate to hate to sort of jump to conclusions. Look 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.640 what the FBI did, yes, right after the right after 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.520 the shooting, the FBI came out and said they had 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.240 a suspecting custody and of course it turns out that 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:55.800 they did not. So I'm always always sort of reticent 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.840 about moving three moves down the chest. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:12:59.200 Mord. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.240 I think it's to say, look, there's a lot of 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:05.040 folks on the left today at attacking people on the 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.840 right for assuming this is politically motivated. I'm not sure 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.840 what else it would be. I don't know anything about 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.400 the shooter, I know anything about the motives. 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.960 I get all of that. But this is a. 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.800 Political figure at a political event who was clearly assassinated. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.160 This is not a random act of violence walking down 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.560 the street. I'm here in New York City. If I 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.720 walk home tonight and I get stabbed, you know, in 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.560 a mugging event, it's hard to say immediately that's a 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:33.840 political sort of event. But this is clearly a political assassination. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:35.400 And I'm not sure why so many people on the 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.760 left are saying, well, we can't jump to that conclusion. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.240 I'm pretty safe about that one that this was politically motivated. 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.960 Why else would you do this under these circumstances. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.360 I was struck also just by, you know, the way 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.240 that it looks so similar to the Thomas Crooks assassination 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.559 attempt on the president, you know, finding the rooftop, squeezing 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.320 off shots from that rooftop with the vantage point. But 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.760 speaking of politics, not every politician has had the best 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.920 reaction to this, and I was particularly struck by Illinois 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:07.600 Governor J. B. Pritzker. Now we spoke about Pritzker last week, 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.040 in the week before. He's a potential contender, he thinks, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.520 maybe for the Democratic nomination in twenty eight But have 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:14.040 a look at this. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.200 I would just say it's got a shot, and I 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.400 think there are people who are fomenting it in this country. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.880 I think the President's rhetoric often foments it. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.240 Now, this was even too much of the Washington Post, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:32.200 which called Pritzker's a disgracefully ill timed comment. Has he 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.560 gone too far with this? And has this damaged Pritzker's 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.280 campaign against Trump and the Republicans? 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.760 Yes, he's gone too far. Know what, It probably hasn't 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:43.200 hurt him. 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:47.120 I wouldn't think number one from a practical stampoint or 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.960 so far away from anybody voting, So are they're going to. 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:50.880 Care much about it? 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.720 But FA said, there's going to be some people who, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.040 quietly to themselves, are very happy that this happened. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:58.520 In fact, there's some people on the internet. You go 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.000 find them. They're very candidate. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.840 How Yeah, we've spoken about them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.240 They vote and typically in Democrat primaries. So no, I 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:08.160 don't think it hurts JP. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.360 PRETZK. That's too bad, it really is. It should hurt him. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:17.200 When the Democrat governor of Illinois gets taken down by 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.360 the Washington Post, then you know he's crossed the line. 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.280 Yeah, yeah, hey, but you know, I'll tell you what though, Mick, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.720 and this has been it's been a really tough couple 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.520 of days for everybody here. But you know, I spent 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.000 yesterday with one of my screens just with social media 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.960 and all the bile pouring across it. But Connecticut young 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:39.440 Republicans and young Democrats in Connecticut, I was quite heartened 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.320 by this story. They've issued a joint statement on social 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.520 media condemning the killing, saying we reject all forms of 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.880 political violence and there is no place in our country 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:53.400 for such acts, regardless of political disagreements. Mick, I'm kind 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.320 of feeling like there's a little glibber of hope here. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:57.800 What do you what do you reckon about that? 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.920 You know, James, thank you for mentioning that, because I 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.320 saw that same statement myself, and I'm like, this, this 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.880 is good. This is what you hope that people will 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.680 respond to, especially the young people. 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:11.720 Keep in mind that that Charlie Kirk was that's where 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:12.200 he made. 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.120 His name for himself, was in high schools and colleges 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.000 and universities and so forth, and says to have those 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.080 two young groups, that young GOP, young Democrats come on 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.120 and put out a joint statement is very powerful stuff. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:29.120 I hope it last. The broad sentiment is bipartisan here. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.840 Yes, you're going to see folks on the left celebrating 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.640 this on the internet. You're gonna see folks in the 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.320 right calling for retribution. But I do not get the 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.480 feeling that is mainstream America or even mainstream Washington d C. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.080 The large majority of people are hoping we can come 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.040 together here and do something about political violence. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.840 I hope at lasts it didn't last time, but maybe 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:49.720 it's be different. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.200 But I mean, you know, just even if some mainstream 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:57.560 it just takes one extremist, as we've seen, because I 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.000 see also that you know, Probalicans Democrat NBC is reporting 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.119 that both Alexandria Cosio Cortez on the left and Nancy 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:08.520 Mace on the right are ditching upcoming events bolstering security measures. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.760 I'm really worried that in the really rough and tumble 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.480 political arena of the United States, where people get out 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.160 there and they're out on the streets and they're doing 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.600 rallies and they're talking to people, this is going to 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.240 have a real chilling effect on getting our elected representatives, 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.840 getting people in public life out in the public. I'm 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:30.680 worried about this and that there's going to have a 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.680 real chilling effect on Congress, but also across you know, 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.879 just political life in general. What's your thoughts about this, 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.639 because you have, of course been a chief of staff, 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.879 You're Trump's chief of staff, You've been involved with planning 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:45.520 events and security and all of these things. Where do 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:46.359 you see this going. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:48.240 I'm worried. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.440 I'm absolutely worried, and I'm worried in a very real, tangible, 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.840 visceral personal way. James look I know we didn't talk 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.719 about this before the show, but if you did this 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.760 program in the United States and you were sitting here 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.440 like I am in New York City, you might think 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.440 and probably should think twice about walking. 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:05.080 Home after the show. 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.960 That's just that, that's the type of fear that we've got. Look, 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.600 I know Nancy Mace, I know Alexandria a Costa Cortez. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.760 I don't know AOC as well as you know Nancy, 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.720 but they're right to be concerned. AOC is right to 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.919 be worried about a nut job on the right sort of, 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.040 you know, taking vengeance in his or her own hands. 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.280 And Nancy's worried about the entire environment that if it 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.080 could happen to Charlie, can happen to anybody. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.359 And if it can happen to Charlie, it can't happen 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:28.800 to anybody. 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:30.199 Finally, I don't want to add on a dark note 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:31.920 or a negative note, but I wasn't a little disturbed 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.280 by this. Here there was a moment on the floor 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.440 of Congress, which was a little depressing because Republicans won't 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.359 have a moment's silence in the House. But some of 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.159 the Democrats didn't like this, have a look at this. 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.439 Let's let's let's wait a minute, Wait a minute, the 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:56.480 house would be an orger nke. 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.359 I kind of feel like Congress could learn a few 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:02.000 things from those young Democrats and young Republicans in Connecticut. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.240 Again, you don't want to end on a dark note. 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:05.359 Now. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.560 I am very, very enthusiastic and encouraged by what the 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:13.320 young Republicans and young Democrats did in Connecticut, but maybe 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.240 their parents and grandparents should take a couple lessons from them. Look, 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.800 if you're wondering how long this sort of atmosphere of 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:25.840 bipartisan encouragement of civil discourse is going to last, keep 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:27.840 an eye on Congress, because if it starts to change it, 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:29.640 it'll start to change their first. 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:31.639 Meg Well, Vanie, we're gonna have to leave it there. 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:33.720 Thank you so much for joining us on this album. 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.160 Very somber day. Thank you very much, Nick. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:37.560 Thanks James. 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.720 All right, I want to bring in next Fox News 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.280 contributor Joe Concha for more reaction to the horrific assassination 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:47.000 of Charlie Kirk. Joe, thanks so much for joining me. 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:48.720 First of all, I just got to ask, on a 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:52.440 personal note, what are your thoughts your feelings, your reflections 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.639 on Charlie Kirk. I don't know if you knew Charlie 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.080 at all, but what are your thoughts and your reflections 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.960 on what's just happened over the last forty eight hours. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.240 Well, thanks, James. You know, I met Charlie on many occasions. 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.199 You know, I wouldn't say like we were friends that 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.680 would vacation together type of thing, but certainly I got 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.119 to know Charlie enough to know that this was a 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.760 person who was principled, a person who was led by 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.320 his faith in God and family first and foremost before 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:24.760 any career and any turning point USA and any political influence. 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:25.200 That he had. 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:29.280 I think for many conservative young adults, James, they'll remember 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.120 this day and exactly where they were when they heard 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.479 that Charlie was shot or killed, the same way that 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.280 older folks in our country would remember where they were 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:42.360 where JFK was shot or when RFK was shot or 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:44.360 Martin Luther King. Because when you think about it, there 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:49.680 haven't been any political assassinations in the US since the sixties, right, 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.440 I mean, Reagan was shot and Trump was shot, but 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:55.040 they survived. So this was as shocking as that, and 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.359 I think Ultimately, the Charlie Kirk will go down as 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.879 one of the great patriots of the twenty first century 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.800 and perhaps of all time in this country politically. When 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.119 you think about what he decided to do at just 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:07.840 age eighteen, Sean, I mean, I think about, like, you 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.159 know what I was thinking about at age eighteen, like 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:11.800 where am I going on spring break. 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:13.639 In college next year? Or I'm not sure where. 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.000 Your thought process was probably about the same to start 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.439 this movement of turning point USA literally from scratch. And 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:25.760 this wasn't somebody who shouted people down. He believed in debate, 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:30.440 open ideas, He loaws censorship, and he would do these 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.400 things at his events where he would tell people, if 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.560 you disagree with me the most, come to the front 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:38.280 and let's talk about it and go back and forth 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:38.640 with them. 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:38.920 Right. 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:43.200 So overall, more and more there seems to be people 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:47.479 in this country, James, who have no interest in debate. Instead, 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.360 they want to silence those they disagree with through censorship 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:51.440 or violence or. 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:52.520