WEBVTT - MAFS CLAIRE TALKS LIES, CHEATING SCANDALS & FAKE PARTICIPANTS 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.600 I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming. 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.960 She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:07.320 my kissing style. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.840 With the boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.840 in a trash bin. He's non recyclable catching them up. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.200 I loved being in love. I love love. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.160 On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we are 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.160 joined by Claire from this season of Married at First 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:24.080 Sight Australia. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.240 We'll ask Claire about her relationship with Jesse, the kiss 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.760 with Adam, and her thoughts on the Red Flag Harrison. 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.600 We will also ask her about her time on the show, 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.400 which couples she thinks will last the distance, and who 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.400 is maybe there for the wrong reasons. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:39.599 Stick around to hear all the mass goss. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:46.959 Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:52.360 things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.360 This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip, 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.680 intimate details, advice and much more. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:06.680 Hello Claire, Welcome guys, thank you for having me, Thank 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:07.280 you for coming in. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.559 I sold you're at Melbourne Fashion Week. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:17.920 I was that was so much fun. I've never been 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.080 to anything like that and I was invited by Jimmie 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.679 as a party and he said would you like to join? 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.119 And I was like, but what will I wear? 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:26.679 You know? 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.320 But I had such a great time and I met 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.440 some pretty cool people and it was crazy like watching 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:36.120 people that you sing on TV that you're like fangling 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.640 over coming up to you and fangling you and it's 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:39.520 like another picture with you. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.040 I didn't you did it? 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.600 You kept it cool. Cool. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.919 I've been trying to keep that up to date with math. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.640 He drags his feet a little bit, just. 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.720 So I've watched enough. So I binge watched enough of 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.080 you literally your scenes, and just for this interview because 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.280 because I wanted to be on top of everything. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.240 But there's a quiz after this. 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.000 I won't pass that. I've never passed the quis in 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.320 my life. But yeah, it just gives me anxiety some 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:08.000 of the stuff on. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.720 There, like it's stressful to lot. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.239 Oh my god, my anxiety was flaring because I was 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:13.920 watching it in the Sydney Hotel and I was like, 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:15.080 fucking this. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.360 I was like, was it sky Sweets by any chance? 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.079 I'm sure you would have PTSD. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.519 I actually kept a few things from my time on 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.919 Maths and going through them and I saw my little 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:31.600 sky sweets pass. Oh, I just shut it, like I 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:35.000 will never go there again. No, in all honesty, like 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.399 there were some bad moments, but there was never any 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.679 bad days. Like I really enjoyed my time. And I 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.320 would do it again in a heartbeat. Like if they 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.000 called me and they're like, ship, we forgot to press record, 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:45.760 we've got no content, you need to. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.799 Come back, I would, Yeah, I'd go back. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.560 No problems that you love the experience, Yeah, I really did. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:55.440 I think that if you surrender control and you you know, 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.280 just have a bit of positive energy about you and 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.079 show some resilience, I think you and take it too seriously. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.960 You just have fun with fair I think. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:07.600 You know it's all bad, all high anxious situations that I. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:08.760 Took a chill field. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.280 She's a very chill person. Like she's got her crystals 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:16.959 with her huge day. I really appreciate that rubbing the crystal. Yeah, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.040 I mean, just for context, I was like twenty minutes late. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:27.280 Checked it was okay. I was the latest I've ever 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.919 been to the podcast. Got stuck in some like very 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.000 bad at traffic and arrived here and the energy was 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:33.760 quite coming. 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.240 Thank you well Claire and me had we've been had 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.240 a fit of time to chat and she's brought her 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.600 angel cards, so fairy card, her fairy card. Sorry, and 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:43.880 I had a fairy card reading. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:45.480 So how did you find that? Matt? 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:46.640 What were they again? 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:51.120 You sexuality in a child, stand your ground and peace 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:51.520 of mind? 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:52.720 What do you think about them? 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.960 I mean it's pretty spotif, but I love it. You 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:02.000 also have brought some little mementos for your time in Math. 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.880 I did, this is my journal, so I've even got 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:06.960 it like ingraved. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:08.840 So cute, says Math. 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.360 But I wrote I wrote in this nearly every day, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.440 just like how I was feeling at the time, and 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.520 you know what was going on, and you. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:21.240 Know, oh my god, you want to read it? Yeah? 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.640 Oh I didn't enjoy that. And then the next night 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.360 I just got more weird. After Voxy, I cried and 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.240 explained how sad it made me to feel shut down. Oh, 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.799 he just became a different person and shut down completely. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.400 He went to bet at eight thirty, no words or explanation. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.480 It's now nine am and he's still asleep. We just 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.479 went paddleboarding. Oh. I actually haven't read back on this. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.960 Maybe I'll do a memoirs memoirs, but no, I brought 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:44.560 a few things. 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.720 I love this as I'm very sentimental myself, so sentimental 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:49.720 like keipt on. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:55.320 My boarding passers. Bronti and I went and got a 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.040 tattoo together. We all got like Bronti, Sandy Lindle and 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.760 I all got an ex mine kind of got infected 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.280 and scabbed off. So I don't know if that was 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:04.480 the token. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.840 Oh my god, that's a sign everyone, that's a business card. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.719 Yeah, it's just like that was the tattoo there was 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:11.600 where is it? 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:13.920 Yeah? Who got the X? 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:20.840 So Sandy, Bronti, myself, Linda already had it and we 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.200 spoke about it at the hands and we thought ten 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:27.200 girls season ten Romanum or X for ten, let's all 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.159 do it, you know, unite us. And he did cause 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:30.760 a bit of a divide. They didn't show that, but 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.360 there was a few girls that were a little bit 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.920 offside about that and thought that there was a bit 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:35.760 of a group. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.200 But it kind of wasn't playing. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:39.400 Like Sandy went on her own. We all just said 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:40.760 let's go and do it. And it happened to me 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.400 that Brontie and I one day were like, let's go 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.200 to Manly. We'll catch the ferry across and there was 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.520 a tatoo shop. Should we go get this? Should we 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.360 go get the X tattoo? And we just did it. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:49.400 So wow. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.200 Unfortunately mine did get infected. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:53.840 And that is a bad omen. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:55.120 Are you going to get it touched up? 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:56.000 Yeah? I think I will. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.240 It's still like it still means like something and it's 0:05:58.279 --> 0:05:58.880 quite nice. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.400 So totally. How long ago did you film maths? 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:08.800 My wedding was on the thirteenth of August year, so it's. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:09.240 Been a while. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:13.160 And I got back home like the tenth of November 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:14.320 or the eleventh of November. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:15.360 It's a long time. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:16.440 Yeah, we've had time to. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:21.440 Kind of be compress and you know, reevaluate our lives. 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.640 Is that time in between really weird between before it is? 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.839 Yeah, it is super weird. It's like in limbo. Yeah, 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.320 do I go back to a full time job? Do 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.160 I What am I doing with myself? What did I 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:34.000 just experience? 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:35.320 What are they going to do with the editor? Even? 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.919 Yeah, even that, like you kind of worry, you know. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.080 Obviously I did what I did and I was like, fuck, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.880 am I going to be just like completely slut shamed? 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.520 Am I going to be marked with this? Awful, like 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.400 cheating person, you do worry a little bit, and so 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:51.960 I didn't want to go back to working in a 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.119 childcare center if I do do that, and then parents 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.640 are like, oh, you know, I don't feel comfortable with 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:58.800 you being, you. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.160 Know, around my child, around my husband. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.040 Or you know, you just think all these intrusive thoughts 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:09.520 are like stressing you out. But honestly, it's been it's 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.600 been really good. I feel like so much love since 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.120 I've been back home and since it's good and if 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.200 anything has given me more confidence in myself and like, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.840 if you are true to yourself and you're authentic and 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.160 you mean what you say, and you say what you 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:23.840 mean and you own your shit, then no one can 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.000 ever hold it against you. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:25.600 Agree. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.960 That was my mentality when I went on Yeah. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.560 Absolutely, was there a part of you that thought that 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:35.160 potentially you could get the villain edit because of the cheating. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.240 To be honest, no, because I know what I'd said 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.160 and I know how i'd handle myself. And if I 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.600 sat back going yeah, but Jesse, you said this about 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.440 me and you treated me like this and created excuses 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:48.640 for my behavior similar to. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.800 Adam, then absolutely, Yeah. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:52.800 But I feel like I didn't do that, and I 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.040 feel I'm so proud of myself the way I did 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:55.560 handle it. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.880 And I don't think I've ever seen any man or any. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.680 Guy on any reality TV show who's made a mistake 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:04.840 own it the way I did. And I think that 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.160 if I was a guy doing and speaking the way 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.840 I did, I would be so much more like glorified 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.000 and being like, how amazing, this amazing guy has taken 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.679 such accountability. But I don't know, maybe I'm still playing 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.480 that male female card, but I feel like as a female, 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.240 you are more put down and you still are like, yeah, 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.200 but once a cheater, always a cheater. She did that, 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.720 So that is a little internal battle I kind of 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.280 think about sometimes. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.439 On that have you cheated in previous relationship? 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.040 No, I've never cheated in a relationship. I've been cheated 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:39.079 on a lot, much nearly every relationship that I've had, 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.520 or I've only really had three, but all three of 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.040 those I was cheated on. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.439 And it really fucks you up. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.920 But it makes you feel not good enough and it 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.120 makes you feel not validated, And so I could really understand, 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.040 like watching Jesse on the couch next to me become 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.800 like a shell of himself. I could really resonate with that, 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.960 because I'm like, shit, I remember feeling that way. 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.000 What made you kiss Adam? Then? Like, why did you? 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:04.520 Honestly? Like, I think, if I'm really honest about it, 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.400 I think that I'd only spent eight or nine days 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:12.080 with Jesse, and in that time, he didn't make me 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.079 feel good. He didn't like me, he didn't like my personality, 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.560 didn't like my hobbies, he didn't like how I spoke, 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.560 he didn't like what I had to say, and I 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:23.080 didn't feel I didn't feel good. And then I met 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:27.280 Adam that night out and he was like, You're so funny, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:28.839 You're so beautiful, You're hilarious. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.160 I love how out there you are. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.720 And I guess all those things that I wanted to 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.400 hear from Jesse I heard from Adam, and I kind 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.560 of felt he's a charming guy. He's charismatic, he's good looking, 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.280 he's got this cool accent, and I'd kind of fell 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:42.840 for it. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.640 And I allowed myself to kind of be drawn in. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.560 And maybe that's me seeking validation from something outside of 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.640 my relationship when I'm not happy and completely. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:52.800 Not right at all. 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.960 But you know, there wasn't so much to it. You know, 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.400 there was no let's go out after, there was no 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:01.679 phone call, phone conversation. 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:02.880 We weren't on the phone. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:04.120 Yeah, I was gonna ask. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:04.840 Yeah. 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.320 It was literally a passion dash. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.440 So what was your mindset? Because I've had so many 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:15.360 like debates about this with my fiance, and I was like, 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.880 I just don't Yeah, we do love it, and I 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.680 told you to watch it too. We should be having anyway. 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.440 And like I was kind of under the impression that 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:31.200 obviously you're married at first sight, right, and like as 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.640 a viewing public, people take it very seriously. They're like, 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.960 they are married whatever, whatever, whatever. But in my mind, 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.839 I was like, it doesn't seem like in your head, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.880 you're like in the headspace of I'm married in that moment. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:49.240 Yeah, I guess you're right. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.400 And you know, we were the first couple to get married. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.040 So we got married, We had a seven night honeymoon, 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.920 eight days we're away, and then we come back for 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.560 eight or nine days and we're completely split, so we 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.319 have to wait for everybody else to get married and 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.680 everybody else to own their honeymoon. So we had these 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.640 eight or nine days together where it ended really badly, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.560 and then we don't have each other's number. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:11.839 We don't speak, so you don't talk to. 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.680 Me, you don't talk. Then I'm in my own hotel 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.679 for nine days, he's in his, and then we come 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:16.920 back in skysweets. 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.600 Wait, so how long was how long? 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.120 Were we like an eight day gap between before us 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:23.520 getting reunited again? 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.640 Are you like our communication to the outside world. 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.120 Well, you've got your phone, yeah, so you can. I 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.040 could call my mum, my sister. You know, that's all good. 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.319 But I hadn't sprang to him, and we left it 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.360 really badly, like we left our honeymoon not speaking. It's 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.600 not for me. This guy's really awful. And then we 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.680 got reunited. You know, we're like going into the first 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.320 dinner party. I'm like, I want to go and see him. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.920 I don't want to go into the first dinner party separate. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.520 It's not setting us up for success in this experiment. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.120 I want to speak to him. Like, we don't have 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.520 each other's number, we couldn't text. So that's when I 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.360 went to his hotel room and I'm like, all right, 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.080 well I'm going to try here. Even though he was 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.360 really mean to me, I'm still going to try. And 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.000 that's when he was like, nah, I don't chase chicks 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.760 and that that really really hurt me bad, like. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.960 That Jesse reckons he doesn't chasee chicks. 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:09.480 Yeah. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:10.880 So I went back to him and he's. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:11.600 Like, I think he should. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:14.880 Yeah. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.160 That really upset me more than anything because that was 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.040 me showing up. That was me going okay, Well, we 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.080 didn't speak for the last three days and our honeymoon. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.679 You're pretty mean to me. In your vows, you said 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.920 I respect kindness and as a kind person. We are 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.800 on a very small island for four days. There's one 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:35.600 breakfast buffet, like you've seen me hard. It's awkward. 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:37.880 And I said, look, why didn't you just come and 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.000 say like are you okay? 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.240 Sorry? I may have been a bit hush, didn't mean that, 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.040 and I would have been like it's all good like. 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:47.600 So it was like a Mexican standoff at the island. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.440 Essentially, I'm on like on one side, he's on the other. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.040 So that's three days and then there's an eight day 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.200 gap where you don't talk. That equates now eleven days. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.120 There was a small conversation at Sky Sweets where you 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:00.480 were like, hey, let's. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:00.760 Clear the air. 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.600 Yeah, there he was like, nah, a bit of backlash 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:04.960 from him, and then. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.240 We went straight into the dinner party that night. So 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.360 the morning I went and saw him, he was like, 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:10.280 I don't chase chicks. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.760 Then we go to the dinner party that night and 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:13.880 it was just awkward. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.079 It was That's when I met all the other husbands. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.680 That's when we all got together and talked about our wedding. 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:25.160 Okay, so first impressions of Adam in that dinner party scenario, 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:29.000 because obviously in your headspace at the moment, you're off Jesse. Yeah, 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.640 you tried again, you put the olive branch out. He's 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.560 kind of rejected it in a way. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.520 It's just like if it was a day on the 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.080 outside world, we never would have seen each other. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:41.680 Agin And this guy's run into me. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.880 He's a bit alternative, which is cool, Like that's fine, 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.360 but there's no point in pursuing someone who doesn't want you, right. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:48.280 Yeah. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.520 I took that as a big like no. And that's 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.440 the thing. I don't feel like I had a chance 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.360 with Jesse from day one. I feel like he had 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.520 in his mind shut me out completely. It was like, no, 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.680 this chick's not for me, she's too much, too loud, 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.400 you know, even sitting on the honeymoon. You're super independent, 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.520 you've got your shit together and not all really good things. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:08.360 But he's like, I'm scared that you're going to become 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.240 bored of me and I'm going to become really needy. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.240 And in that moment, I realized that that's his insecurities 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:15.720 and he's a super insecure dude. 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.160 And that was a sad moment. 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:19.720 It was really sad, it was. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:21.760 But also, I don't. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:22.720 Know your responsibility. 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.800 Yeah, I'm sure not with any offense, but I came 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:27.880 and wanting someone who can be on my level, who 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.360 can be like, let's be in that driver's seat together, 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.360 not someone have to like kind of carry along with me, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.560 Like that's not what I want in a relationship lit atlone, 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:36.280 a marriage, you know. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:38.720 So let's go back to the dinner party. Was they're 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.720 flirting at that dinner party with Adam because obviously then 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.440 you've gone out and made out. Was what was like 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:45.560 the vibe with you guys? 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:45.760 Then? 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.000 To be honest, she didn't really like Adam. 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:49.680 Oh really the first time I met him at the 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.720 dinner party, and you know when you talk to someone 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.000 and their eyes are over there, and they're like, yeah, huh, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.280 they're like worried about what's happening over there. I found 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.040 him like really hard to speak to you. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:14:59.920 I'm like, this guy's don't. 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.360 Even listening to me when I'm speaking. 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.040 So I didn't vibe. 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.400 Him at all. And when we did the attractive photo challenge, 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:06.400 I actually put him last. 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.040 Actually, I think I remember that. 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:09.560 They didn't know. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:14.720 They didn't show Jesse and I for some reason maybe. 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:15.160 Done that purpose. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.800 Yeah, maybe, but I put I put Adam last. Funnily enough, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:19.480 So these. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.200 Are things that as a view as a viewer, we 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.120 needed to say why. I think I remember that, and 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:25.280 I think I'm thinking of a different couple. 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:26.640 They showed it super briefly. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.080 I was like, yeah, let's do this, and then they 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.320 get to cut it completely, like I put Jesse first 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:31.760 and I put Adam last. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.720 Which is pretty fun before after the makeout. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.760 This is before, way before the makeout. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:40.320 Yeah, and then Jesse actually put me fifth, which I 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.640 got a little bit offended at because the whole time 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.480 he was like, oh, I'll give you a go only 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.640 because you're hot. Oh you're so hot, you're so hot. 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.360 But then put me fi. So they show that they 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.960 didn't show it. He put Janelle first, tany I think 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:57.680 he put Sandy. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:00.320 Yeah, I can't even remember, but he. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:00.840 Put me fear. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.360 Okay, Well, look that's a great segue because recently there 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:09.360 has been rumors that Jesse and Janelle have something going on, 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.120 And what's your thoughts on that. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.120 Oh, look, if that's if that's true, and it's not 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.520 a staged thing, which I have heard rumors that it 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.200 was just for let's get a dialogue happening, I'm not 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.320 really sure. I haven't asked them obviously, don't speak to 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.000 Jesse right now, and I haven't asked you now, But 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.800 super happy for them. I mean, if you know they're 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.400 both in Perth, they are quite similar in some aspects, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:34.920 So yeah, I would be wrap for them. If they've 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.800 found love from that in that scenario, then that's really 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.400 that's actually really cute and that's quite sweet. I'd be 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.720 wrapped for them. But yeah, I've heard some whispers that 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.880 it was just like, let's get some talk happening. Not sure, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.640 but either way. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.440 What's your usual type? It's Jesse your usual. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.400 Both of them are. To be honest, I've only really 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.280 ever dated like wog boys, you know, like Greek Italian. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:10.160 You know, yeah, I've really only kind of been with Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:14.320 I would say so both super different. But when I 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.919 first saw Jesse, I was like, this is cool. Like 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.520 if you can rock a man bun in a pink 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.720 suit and tats, I'm like, that is a vibe. You're cool. 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:21.359 I love that. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:23.760