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Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Kate Richie podcast, Page

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Speaker 1: fifteen of The Baby Ryan James, I've always been fascinated by.

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Speaker 2: Hackers and the dark web because I don't understand it myself.

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Speaker 2: I've always thought there'd be a great TV show too,

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Speaker 2: where each week there's a group of people that are

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Speaker 2: set a task in hacking and you have to hack

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Speaker 2: to get through to the next round.

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Speaker 3: Well, I've always wondered who are the top hackers in

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Speaker 3: the world, and do the biggest companies in the world

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Speaker 3: poach the top hackers in the world.

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Speaker 2: I think they do fit and quite often you'll find

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Speaker 2: that if a hacker has been arrested, busted, charged, then

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Speaker 2: they might find themselves in an organization like the government

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Speaker 2: to be across cybersecurity.

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Speaker 3: Well, then do you go from country to country then?

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Speaker 3: Because I dare say that. I mean, if you're a

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Speaker 3: Russian hacker, yeah, God, are you doing it for the

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Speaker 3: money or are you doing it or else they're going

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Speaker 3: to take your life?

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Speaker 2: Well, you don't know, do you don't know what your

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Speaker 2: hacking conditions are? You'd have to negotiate your hacking contracts.

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Speaker 3: Thirt ain't twenty four to ten. If you know a hacker.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I mean if you were able to go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this week on Hackers

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Speaker 2: are us speak studio audience tonight. We've got five hackers

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Speaker 2: and we've chosen NRL websites, So you need to be

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Speaker 2: able to hack into the website and change the ladder.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's see what you can do, Darren, how

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Speaker 2: did you go with the NRL Weekly Hack Challenge?

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Speaker 3: Instead of match, it's hacks hacks.

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Speaker 2: I will watch that show and if you manage to

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Speaker 2: hack and change the latter, through to the next round.

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Speaker 3: All right, Tom Ivy, executive producer, Let's get into his

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Speaker 3: bank account and see if there we go.

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Speaker 1: Look out. Okay, on the count of three, drain, here's

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Speaker 1: a count. Oh he's done it. Don't done it in

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Speaker 1: three minutes? What I be through to the next round.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this girl and she is a MUSTI

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Speaker 1: fine hacker.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with allegedly here Ryan James, because this

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Speaker 2: is now in front of the courts.

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Speaker 1: So this was yesterday. She was arrested in kings Kingswood. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: Her last name is Kingston, Bertie Kingston. She's twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, she started hacking about three years ago. But what

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Speaker 4: she did is she hacked into the University of Western

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Speaker 4: Sydney their website because she wanted cheaper parking. So she

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Speaker 4: wanted to be able to access discounts for cheaper parking

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Speaker 4: for a university course that she was doing there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, a struggling student, I understand that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, back in my day, you'd go to the

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Speaker 2: color photo copier and see if you can print out

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Speaker 2: a permit and hit the laminader and then trim the

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Speaker 2: edges and put it on your dash. Oh not Bertie.

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Speaker 1: She wants to go into the system and make sure

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Speaker 1: she's registered for the discount. So that was her first thing.

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Speaker 1: Then she moved on to some heavier things. Fits.

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Speaker 2: So not only did she look at changing results for

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Speaker 2: university on campus, she then accessed every else's.

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Speaker 1: Information and wanted to sell it on the dark web.

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Speaker 2: What so, not only was she able to hack into

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Speaker 2: the system, she was able to gain the information and

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Speaker 2: then access the dark web to say, hey, if you

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Speaker 2: want the private information.

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Speaker 1: On hundreds of thousands of students, yeah, go for your life.

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Speaker 1: I've got to hit twenty bucks.

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Speaker 2: A story backs data data, data data.

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Speaker 3: That's what everyone wants is the data.

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Speaker 1: The data.

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Speaker 3: But see this is where I mean, if you start

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Speaker 3: getting other people's information, they're going to then go to

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Speaker 3: the cops. Then you've got heat on. You just stick

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Speaker 3: to the part cheaper parking. I would have s off

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Speaker 3: for for her.

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Speaker 2: The minute you get hungry, isn't it the minute you

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Speaker 2: realize you're into the system. But they police had come

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Speaker 2: out and said, we've been watching the same level.

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Speaker 1: Of entry or hacking entry over.

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Speaker 2: The years, and that's how we were able to narrow

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Speaker 2: it down to the one person. They also came out

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Speaker 2: and said, it's apparent that the person behind this hack

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Speaker 2: has a very high level of technical skills. It's very

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Speaker 2: Julian Assange.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember Dusange used his Commodore sixty four. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that is an unbelievable story, considering it such as basic computer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was only playing Green Beret in Wonder Boy.

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Speaker 3: I know he's in there hacking into the government.

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Speaker 1: Extraordinary. He was able to control the power.

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Speaker 2: When I say power, I mean literally the power around

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Speaker 2: the city, flicking lights on and off. This person, she's

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Speaker 2: up for twenty charges, including accessing and modifying restricted data.

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Speaker 3: Fascinating.

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Speaker 1: The question is do you still get free parking?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I've always thought, right, if I

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Speaker 3: was a hacker, I would want to go for I

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Speaker 3: travel the world.

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Speaker 1: So like imagine, imagine.

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Speaker 3: If you had your laptop wheep, and you go out, okay,

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Speaker 3: I want to go to you know what, I want

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Speaker 3: to go to the Philippines. Get under your computer, you

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Speaker 3: hack into a hotel. You've booked yourself in for three nights,

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Speaker 3: into an amazing hotel.

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Speaker 1: You're not paying for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. And then I wonder if you

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Speaker 3: can get into it. I wonder if you can hack

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Speaker 3: into I don't know you can hack into Oh well,

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Speaker 3: look at this Emirates. I've got myself a basically last flight,

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Speaker 3: and you just go around the world. Obviously you'll need

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Speaker 3: cash somehow.

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Speaker 1: You're really hack into a bank. You know.

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Speaker 2: The annoying thing is trying to work out how much

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Speaker 2: you're going to bother hacking. Like if I go, all right, okay,

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Speaker 2: I've got my free hotel because I hacked.

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Speaker 1: I need to get an uber should I hack?

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Speaker 2: I'll just go for the I'll just pay the twenty

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Speaker 2: bucks or hanging a minute, I'm going to have an

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Speaker 2: uber ready to go in half.

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Speaker 1: An hour because I need to hack into the system.

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Speaker 1: When do you stop hacking?

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Speaker 3: That was your nickname?

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 3: In high school? Were you the hack?

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Speaker 1: No No?

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Speaker 2: I was actually one of the greatest sportsmen Tooever, if

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Speaker 2: you look into the records, I was able to hack

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Speaker 2: it and.

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Speaker 1: Change some of the information. I was one of the

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Speaker 1: great sports When to go through the school?

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