1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Britney Saunders and welcome to Big Business, the 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: place where business is far from boring. And today I'm 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: recording on Gadigall Land. Now, I somehow managed to build 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: an empire from the garage underneath my house and I'm 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: here to share it all with you, from the wins, 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: the losses, the huge mistakes and the funny moments in between. 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: So, whether you're in business already, you're. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: Not in the game at all, or maybe you're looking 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: for some inspo or you simply just want to hear 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: the tea, this is the podcast for you. Coming up 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: in today's episode, we are getting personal. I'm getting a 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: sense that you all enjoy a bit of a personal episode, 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: So we're taking a deep dive into my resume and 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: my job history. Now, believe it or not, before doing 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: what I do, now you know everything that you see 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: online that I do and running all these businesses, I 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: had over twenty jobs. My first official job was when 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: I was fourteen, and I worked up until the age 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: of twenty one, and it was at twenty one that 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: I became self employed and I haven't looked back. I'm 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: now thirty one, so I'm celebrating ten years of being 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: self employed and working for myself. But in those years, 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: I worked over twenty jobs, and funnily enough, I think 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: working through twenty plus jobs in those early teen and 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: early twenties years, I think it really led me to 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: where I am today, and it all kind of makes 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: sense in my entrepreneurial journey. 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: So without further ado, let's just dive into it and. 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Take a look at my extensive job history. So, my 30 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: youngest memory of wanting to earn money honestly goes back 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: to primary school. I remember being the kid that wanted 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: to do anything for a few dollars, and I think 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 1: a lot of us were that way, and I almost 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,639 Speaker 1: think in a way. 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: Was that when my entrepreneurial fire started. 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: I was that kid that would say, can I please 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: do this around the house for five dollars? Like I 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: always wanted to earn pocket money in exchange of chores, 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: when really I should have just been doing the chores anyway. Me. 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: Can I make my bed for two dollars please? I 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: always wanted to do chores around the house and earn 42 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: some money, you. 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: Know, in exchange. Like I wanted to work and earn money. 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: And I remember offering to do things for family, friends 45 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: and friends as well, like clean their room for five dollars, 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: just little things like that. Is my first real memory 47 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: of wanting to earn money. I think the first proper 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: job that I had, which wasn't really a proper job, 49 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's a job that a lot of 50 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: us did, was my stepbrother and I we would have 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: been maybe eleven or twelve. We somehow signed up in 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: our neighborhood to deliver junk mail. But we would get 53 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: all the junk mail to our house, and I remember 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: everything was separated, like you'd get one piece of junk 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: mail and another piece and then you had to combine 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: everything together and then get rubber bands and tie it 57 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: up in a roll and put the. 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: Rubber band around it. 59 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: And we'd do that for like three hundred lots, and 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: then we'd put them into bags and we would get 61 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: our stepmum to drive us around the suburb and we'd 62 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: get out and deliver it all around. And I remember 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: that was so exciting, and you know, I was eleven 64 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: or twelve at the. 65 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: Time, and I don't know. 66 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: We probably earned twenty dollars from doing the whole suburb, 67 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: and that was the first thing that I really earned 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: money from. But then, if you want to talk about 69 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: my first ever official official job, it was good old Macers. 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: I think back then you had to. 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: Be fourteen and nine months to wait to apply at Macas, 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: And I remember I was young for my year in school, 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: so I was a whole year younger and everyone in 74 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: my year had already gone out and gotten their jobs, 75 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: and I was so annoyed that I had to wait until. 76 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: The next year. But I just couldn't wait to earn money. 77 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: That's what it was for me. 78 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: I was so desperate to turn fourteen and nine months 79 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: and go and get that first job. I remember making 80 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 1: up my resume online and you would apply online back 81 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: in the day, which I'm surprised by, to be honest, 82 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: but I remember applying on the McDonald's website when I 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: was fourteen. You could apply when you were fourteen, then 84 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: you would get the job when you were fourteen and 85 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: nine months. And I got the job like the day 86 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: I turned fourteen and nine months, and I was straight 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: down to our local Macas, which was luckily around the 88 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: corner from my house, and I remember my first paycheck 89 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: being ninety dollars or something. Like that, and I thought 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: I'd absolutely hit the jackpot earning ninety dollars because I 91 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: guess when we were kids, we were never given a 92 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: lot of money, Like we would get fifty dollars for 93 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: our birthday off you know, Nan and pop, and twenty 94 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: dollars for Christmas or whatever, and we were never really 95 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: given a lot of money from either of our parents. 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: So to get ninety bucks pay it was just so 97 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: exciting at fourteen and nine months and I instantly became 98 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: addicted to working. I was that kid that was obviously 99 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: going to school. Don't know what year I was in, 100 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: eight or nine. And then I would work, you know, 101 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: five or six nights a week at Maccas until you know, 102 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: eleven or twelve at night, I'd be there closing up 103 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: the restaurant and finishing super late, and I absolutely loved it. 104 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I became obsessed with working and earning money. I picked 105 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: up a second job, you know how, like a lot 106 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: of kids had a second job. So my second job 107 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: that I ever got at Baskin Robbins. So then I 108 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: was working selling ice creams at Baskin Robins and also 109 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: at Maccas at. 110 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: The same time. 111 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: And then for some bizarre reason, that wasn't enough for me, 112 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: so I went out and I got a third job. 113 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: So at one point there, when. 114 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm around fifteen years old, I was juggling three jobs Macas, 115 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: Baskin Robins, and Subway. I have no idea how I 116 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: managed to juggle three as well as going to school 117 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: five days a week. 118 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: But I absolutely hated school. 119 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: I think I was wanting to get these jobs to 120 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, try and get away from school somehow, 121 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: even though I was still going there five days a week. 122 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: And I didn't have a license at the time. 123 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: I was fifteen, so I was relying on my mum 124 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: and my stepdad at the time. 125 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: Wonder how he's doing. 126 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I was relying on them dropping me all these shifts 127 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: at all these different jobs. I remember it being a 128 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: lot like that. I was never not working and I 129 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: was absolutely obsessed with it. And I don't know if 130 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: teenagers these days are different, like I can imagine they are, 131 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: but I really. 132 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: Loved that back then. That was the thing that teenagers did. 133 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: Like as soon as you turn that fourteen and nine 134 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: months you went and you got that job at McDonald's 135 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: or Hungry Jacks or Burger king back then wherever it was, 136 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: because I think it just sets such a really good 137 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: foundation for me when it came to working and learning 138 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: how to do things. 139 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: I feel like teenagers. 140 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: This is me stereotyping, but I feel like teenagers might 141 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: be more different these days. 142 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: But oh, I'm not gonna go work at Mangas, Like 143 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: that's not. 144 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Cool kind of thing, Whereas back then we didn't care 145 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: about that, Like it was cool that we had a 146 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: job at Macas, and it was cool that we had 147 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: a job in general. And it just instantly taught me 148 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: so much from the age of fourteen and nine months, like, 149 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: here's all the things you have to do, here's all 150 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: the safety things you have to do, you have to 151 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: show up on time, you have to have your uniform 152 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: looking nice, just all those little things. I feel it 153 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: just teaches you, like so much from such a young age. 154 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: And I'm really glad that I kind of grew up 155 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: in that generation and I did that when it was 156 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: it didn't matter if you worked at Macas, like it 157 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: wasn't uncool. So I'll always look back at that and 158 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: think it was amazing. And I mean, I don't talk 159 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: to any teenagers these days, but my advice to any 160 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: teenagers out there, or if you have kids that are teenagers, 161 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: is go and get yourselves in one of those fast 162 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: food jobs because they do everything so thoroughly and their training. 163 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: And I even think back to, you know, when I 164 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: did work at Macas, Like you would go in and 165 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: the first job that you would get put on is 166 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: dining room, so you weren't even allowed to work behind 167 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: the counter. You would get put on dining room and 168 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: that was cleaning the dining room and the toilets, and 169 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: then once you got good at that, then you got 170 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: put on fries. 171 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: So then you I fries for a shift, and you 172 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: kind of worked your. 173 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Way up and it just teaches you those foundations of 174 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: a workplace from such a young age. And I'm so 175 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: so glad that I did that, even though it was 176 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: such a bloody long time ago. But moving on, I 177 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: had juggled three jobs and then I was back to 178 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: one working at Baskin Robbins, and I loved that, but 179 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to step into something different, so I got 180 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: my first ever job as a waitress at the age 181 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: of fifteen, which is crazy because I remember I was 182 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: not old, like I was nowhere near old enough to 183 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: serve alcohol. And this was an Italian restaurant that's shut 184 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: down now, but it was like a local Italian restaurant. 185 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: And I was nowhere near old enough to serve the alcohol, 186 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: but I could do everything else there. 187 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: And I remember being. 188 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: So scared going to get a waitressing job, never had 189 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: had one before. Carrying three plates frightened the shit out 190 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: of me. And I guess this is like a part 191 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: in my you know, developmental years of discovering fears and 192 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: just going with it anyway kind of thing. I remember 193 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: just being so petrified about learning to carry three plates. 194 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: It was this whole big thing, but I just went, 195 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, what, fuck it, I'm going to do it anyway. 196 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: It turns out, once you learn how to carry three plates, 197 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: you'll always remember can still do it now. If anyone 198 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: ever needs me and carry three dishes at dinner, you 199 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: can count on me. So then I eventually gave up 200 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: Baskin Robbins and then stayed. I stayed working at that 201 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: Italian restaurant for years. I worked there for long enough 202 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: until I turned eighteen that I could serve alcohol, So 203 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: it was like a good two or three years that 204 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: I stayed there. Now it was During this time, I 205 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: was also at school that I had this urge that 206 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to drop out of school. So I went 207 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: down the whole avenue of thinking I wanted to be 208 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: a beauty therapist and also thinking I wanted to be 209 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: a hairdresser, because they were the two things that you know, 210 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: I guess us girls had as an option back then 211 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: to kind of get a trainee ship and drop out 212 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: of school. I never went down the beautician route, but 213 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: I did take a stab at hairdressing because I thought, perfect, 214 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: I can get a hair dressing apprenticeship, I can drop 215 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: out of school. 216 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: I think I'm in year nine at this point. So 217 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: I went and did a couple of. 218 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Trials at some local hair salons here in Newcastle. I 219 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: think I did two trials at two different hair salons, 220 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: and back then you would do full days, and I 221 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: almost think I did like a three day trial at 222 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: one of them to get this apprenticeship. 223 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: And all I. 224 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: Did for those three days was sweep and make coffees, 225 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: like I did absolutely nothing else. 226 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: I didn't even get to wash hair. 227 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: And at the end I remember not getting the apprenticeship 228 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: that I so badly wanted, and I got handed like 229 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: a pack of shampoo and conditioner as my pay, like, 230 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: thank you, but you didn't get the job. And I 231 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: remember being so bummed about that. But I don't think 232 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: it was because I was passionate at all about wanting 233 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: to become a hairdresser. It was because I just was 234 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: so desperate to drop out of school and just work 235 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: and earn my own money and be independent. But that 236 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: fell through, and you know what, things in life always 237 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: fall through. And I always think, imagine, if I had 238 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: gotten one of those apprenticeships that I went for, how 239 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: different would my life be now? And I always say this, 240 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: like these tiny little things happen in our life, but 241 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: it pushes us in a complete different direction. And I 242 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: always think back to that and think, wow, my life 243 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: would be so different if I had gotten that apprenticeship. 244 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: So I dropped out of school and all I had 245 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: was the waitressing job at the Italian restaurant. But I 246 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: was working there basically five or six nights a week. 247 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: And you know, when you're in hospitality, sometimes you're working 248 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: like eleven shifts in a row kind of thing, like 249 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: eleven days in a row. I was working a lot 250 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: and earning a decent amount of money. And I was 251 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: still living at home. So I just dropped out of 252 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: school anyway and thought, I'll just figure this out. I 253 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: just really wanted to get out there and work. 254 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: I didn't want to be at school anymore. 255 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: I was not interested in any of the job at 256 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: any of the subjects that I was doing. I just 257 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: wanted to get out there and earn my own money. 258 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: So I were there, had even a second thought it 259 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: dropped out of school, and I remember everyone that I 260 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: was friends with at school were. 261 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 2: Kind of like, you're crazy, like you need to stay, 262 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: you need go to UNI. 263 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: But I, again, I had no interest in doing anything 264 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: there either, and something was just pushing me to just 265 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: get out there and earn my own money. So I 266 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: walked out of school and honestly never looked back. And 267 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: I remember feeling really good about that. And my dad 268 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: wasn't in the picture like in my life. 269 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: At this point. 270 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: If you listen to my other personal episode, you'll know 271 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: about that, And so I only really had the guidance 272 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: of my mom, who was also very much like, I. 273 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: Don't give a shit if he dropped out of school 274 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 275 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: So I just went fuck it and dropped out on 276 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: a whim like there was not much thought that went 277 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: into that whatsoever. And on that topic of not having guidance, 278 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: so obviously my dad is not in the picture at 279 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: all in my life. He's walked out of my life 280 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: by this point. And then having my mom who was 281 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: just very much like I don't give a shit if 282 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: you go to school or not, Like I never had 283 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: any type of guidance. I never had an adult figure 284 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: in my life as a young influential teen being like, hey, like, 285 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: maybe you should pick some subjects that you're interested in, 286 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: or you should really pursue your passions, or you should 287 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: really look at getting into you. I kind of felt 288 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: like I was just in free play mode when I 289 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: was this young teenager. I felt like I could just 290 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: do anything. I almost felt like an adult. I didn't 291 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: have anyone pushing me in any sort of direction. And 292 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: if anything, I think that's what led me to go 293 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: down this path of kind of living life and going 294 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: into the workforce. 295 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: In free play mode, it's like you've pressed. 296 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: Play on the sims and off you go, like the 297 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: sims just on automatic mode. I think having no guidance 298 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: could definitely have been a negative thing, and it could 299 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: have led me down a path of destruction and just 300 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: ending up nowhere. But somehow, and I don't know how, 301 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: but somehow, over those next few years, I figured it 302 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: all out on my own and kind of figured out 303 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: I can do whatever the fuck I want. And the 304 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: thing was, I didn't know what it was that I 305 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: wanted to do, but it would be all the next 306 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: jobs that would kind of lead me to the discovery 307 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: of I actually don't want to work for anyone else. 308 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: I want to work for myself. So I landed myself 309 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: my first ever sales role. 310 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: And the way that it was worded online on the 311 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: job ad was like executive sales associate and I'm like, oh, 312 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: this sounds fucking Legit turns out the sales associate executive 313 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: job was selling pay TV. This was back before any 314 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: of the streaming services were a thing. It was when 315 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: you either had Foxtel oz Star or you had. 316 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: Just normal free to air TV. 317 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: And I got this job in sales and I would 318 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: stand in the middle of shopping centers trying to get 319 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: people to sign up to oz Star, which was the 320 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: regional version of Foxtel, because I would go out to like, 321 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: so I'm from Newcastle but then there's like Maitland and 322 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the Hunter, So this head office was based in Maitland 323 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: and the Hunter, so I was service in the area 324 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: that was oddz star. 325 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: It was like not foxtail, that same sort of thing. 326 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: I actually have no idea how I had the confidence 327 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: to do that job. I often reflect back on that 328 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: job and think, I don't think I could do that. 329 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: Now stand in the middle of a shopping center selling 330 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: someone else's product. And the scary thing about it was 331 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: as well is it wasn't just a one off payment. 332 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: I was stopping people in the shopping center to say, hey, 333 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: do you want to sign up to twenty four months 334 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: of PayTV? Like that was ballsy, And I think again 335 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: that was something that scared the shit out of me. 336 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: But I just threw myself into it and thought, fuck it, 337 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: I can do it by having, you know, this be 338 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: my fourth job. Already by the age of sixteen, I 339 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: was already building this like false sense of confidence that 340 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: I could almost do anything if I just gave it 341 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: a crack. So I stepped into that role and I 342 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: lasted there all of probably two months. And the reason 343 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: for that is because I was working for Commission only, 344 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: which was yeah, it was. It was wild and I 345 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: don't think they're allowed to do that anymore. And it 346 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: was kind of an MLM kind of situation, like I 347 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: then could have got people under my team kind of thing, 348 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: and then I earn money off their commissions. It was 349 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: all a little bit like it was giving a bit 350 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: corrupt vibes. It was giving pyramid scheme, and I think 351 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: it ended up coming out that it was obviously a 352 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: pyramid scheme. And there would be days where like I 353 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: would catch the train up to Maitland, which was like 354 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: thirty or forty minutes. Then I'd go and out and 355 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: stand in the shopping center all day long, and I'd 356 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: stand on my feet all day long, no chair stopping 357 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: people like, and we would learn all these sales tactics 358 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: and stuff like you'd pretend someone dropped something on the ground, like, oh, 359 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: you dropped something, and then you'd like get their attention. 360 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: So I learned a lot of good little sales tactics 361 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: back then. But I'd go and do that job all 362 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: fucking day and then get the train home, then go 363 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: waitress at night at the Italian restaurant, and I earned 364 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: zero dollars selling the PayTV and earned more at my 365 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: waitressing job at night, so I very quickly got myself 366 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: out of that job. But it's it was a good 367 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: experience and I can look back at it now and laugh. 368 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: So I then ventured into the world of retail. I 369 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: landed myself my first retail job, and again I had 370 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: no experience in retail. But I guess having you know, Maca's, Subway, 371 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: Baskin Robbin's on my resume, it then kind of equit 372 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: me in customer service to then apply for jobs in retail. 373 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you another thing that I used to 374 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: do back then. 375 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: I used to lie so badly on my resume in 376 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: terms of how long I'd worked at places. I would 377 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: completely fudge the dates because who is like in my mind, 378 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: I just thought, as if anyone's going to call my 379 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: references anyway, and as if they're gonna ask how long 380 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: exactly did she work there? 381 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: So i'd, you know, move. 382 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: The months around a little bit and make it look 383 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: like I'd worked at places longer. Especially if I only 384 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: work somewhere for two months. 385 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put at least six. They're not going to 386 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: find out. 387 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: I'd gotten my peace and I landed myself a job 388 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: at Connors Suit and Clothing. 389 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: Store still around today. They've been going for a while. 390 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: Take my hat off to them. Land it a job there. 391 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: Don't know how. 392 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't know why I wanted to go work there, 393 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: but I just wanted to do anything in the daytime 394 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: because I was just waitressing in the night. I think 395 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: I worked at Connor again, maybe two months max, and 396 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: I was developing. 397 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: I will say a bad habit, but. 398 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: In a way, I want to say it's good of 399 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: quitting a job when it didn't satisfy me anymore. 400 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: So I quit that sales job. I got this job 401 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: at Connor. 402 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: Like the people that were working there were nice and 403 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: it was a good environment. The thing that I hated 404 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: the most was the KPIs. If I just sold a 405 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: customer a pair of pants, because that's all they came 406 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: in for, I would get questioned by the manager why 407 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: I didn't also sell the shirt to match and I 408 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: completely understand that that manager was just doing their job. 409 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: But very quickly I learned. 410 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: To hate the KPI side of working in that retail 411 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: store and I quit. And this was a habit that 412 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: I got myself into more and more as the next 413 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: years would go by is getting jobs, and as soon 414 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 1: as there was something that I didn't like, or if 415 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: I just didn't like going there, I would quit and 416 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: go on to the next. 417 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: The next job. After that, I stayed in retail. 418 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: I got a job in a women's shoe store which 419 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: was called Wanted Shoes, which I. 420 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: Believe shut down, and I ended up working there for 421 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: quite a while as well. But I think I just 422 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: eventually got over that. Meanwhile, during this kind of period 423 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: where I. 424 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: Was working at the shoe store, this is where I 425 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: stepped into the YouTube world. This is when I was 426 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: making all these videos at home as well, and I 427 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: guess I started to build a little following back then, 428 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, upload videos and get five hundred views here, 429 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: three hundred views there. So this is where the whole 430 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: YouTube internet thing came into play, as well as juggling 431 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: all these jobs. And it was throughout this time as well, 432 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: when I was working at the shoes store that I 433 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: then started dabbling in my other little business ventures which 434 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: I think I've spoken about in previous episodes, my spray 435 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: hands and makeup. 436 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: I just tried to. 437 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: Put my fingers into absolutely everything. But I eventually got 438 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: over the shoe store and quit there as well. 439 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: I can't exactly remember why. I probably just got over it. 440 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: I then went into my last retail job, which was 441 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: working in the fragrance department at Meyer. Worked there for 442 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: a while as well, and again it did feel really 443 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: salesy and they were KPI driven, but probably not as 444 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: much as the men's clothing store, and it was nice enough. 445 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: I made like friends with all the older women that 446 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: were working on the beauty counters, which was really nice, 447 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: and I felt like I was the baby, being the 448 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: seventeen year old there, and it was good because it 449 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: was in my NaN's local shopping center as well that 450 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: she goes to all the time, so Nan would come 451 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: and visit me all the time, so that was really nice. 452 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: And I enjoyed selling. 453 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: Perfume because I loved perfume back then, still love it now. 454 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: But I eventually got over that as well. Now, when 455 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: I just turned eighteen, I got the most random job 456 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: I've probably ever had in my entire life. And if 457 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: you listen to my other podcast, High Scrollers, I've spoken 458 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: about this over there, but I got a job working 459 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: at the Great Ossie Bush Camp. Now, if you don't 460 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: know what Ozzie Bush Camp is it's a school camp 461 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: for kids. You go there in year three, four, five, six, 462 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: and even high school and you do all sorts of 463 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: activities like rock climbing, ab sailing, canoeing, fencing, giant swing, 464 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. I got a job there 465 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: as a sports instructor when I was eighteen years old, 466 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: and let me tell you, the onboarding process, or like 467 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: the trial process to even get that job, went over 468 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: a few weeks, and you had to do like physical trials. 469 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: You had to do all of your first aid. You 470 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: had to do like you had to learn how to 471 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: tie every single knot that there is with rope, and 472 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: you had to kind of do all these physical physical 473 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: tests to get the job. 474 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: I have no idea why. 475 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: I thought, yep, I'm interested in doing this, but I 476 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: went through the whole process and I ended up getting 477 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: a job there. And this was sort of full time. 478 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: It was either three days a week or five days 479 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: a week, depending on how long the camp was that 480 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: you were looking after. And that in itself was one 481 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: of the most random things that I've ever experienced as 482 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old, and again. 483 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: Like a great experience. 484 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: I got to do so many different things, and I 485 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: just eventually worked out that it really wasn't for me 486 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: because you would have to wake up at five am 487 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: to go and wake the kids up, and then you 488 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: would be getting home at five or six pm as well. 489 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: But that is another really random job that I've had, 490 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: and it was kind of iconic as well because I 491 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: went to Ozzie Bush Camp when I was in school, 492 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: so it was really cool to go back as an 493 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: eighteen year old as one of the instructors there. So 494 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: that was job number eleven ish. It's by this point 495 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: that I had just moved out of home. I moved 496 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: out of home when I was seventeen, just going on eighteen. 497 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: And the last kind of job that I found myself 498 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: working in casually was at the hotel at Noah's in 499 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: the restaurant, and again I was working there enough that 500 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: I could live out of home. And mind you, this 501 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: is back in the day when rent was maybe one 502 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a week when you were living in a sharehouse, 503 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: because rent was a lot. 504 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: Cheaper than it is now inflation. 505 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: I've never had a full time job by this point, 506 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: but I mean, I'm only eighteen, but I have had 507 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: over ten jobs, and I still had no idea what 508 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: the fuck I wanted to do. It was by this 509 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: point that I had gone through every industry from sales 510 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: to retail, hospitality, sports camp, instructing makeup and spray tands 511 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: and everything in between, and I still wasn't happy with 512 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: any of it. 513 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: I hated it. I hated it all. 514 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: And so I thought to myself, well, maybe the dream 515 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: is to get a nine to five office role, because 516 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: I think that is like a dream that can be 517 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: painted to us when we're younger, is you know, you 518 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: go and get that nine to five office job and 519 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: then you're set for life kind of thing, you know. 520 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: So I thought, all right, that's what I'm to do. 521 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: And by this point I obviously had a lot of 522 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: confidence because I just the other thing too, was like 523 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: almost every job that I went for I got, and 524 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: that gave me a lot of confidence as well. 525 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: Going into all these random interviews is like I've got this, 526 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: I've got this job. 527 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: So I thought, well, I'm just gonna apply for some 528 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: random admin jobs in Newcastle. So I applied for a few, 529 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: and I landed my first ever full time role working 530 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: in a pest control office answering the phones and booking 531 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: in people when they would call up and they got cockroaches. 532 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: It was really glamorous. And do you want to know 533 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: a funny story. Actually, I'm sure she won't mind saying it. 534 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: But my office manager at that time she now has 535 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: her own cleaning business in Newcastle and she cleans our 536 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: office and wear house. So it's like done this full circle. 537 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: My old office manager is now coming to clean for us. 538 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: In her business. 539 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: I see her every second Thursday at work. And she said, 540 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: when you walked into your interview, it might have been 541 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: it might have been it was okay. So it was 542 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: my birthday when I went to have the interview at 543 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: this pest control place, and I don't know if it 544 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: must have been my eighteenth birthday. And she said, you 545 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: walked in and I was dressed in nice clothes, like 546 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: not business clothes. I was dressed in going out for 547 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: lunch clothes because it was my birthday. And she said, 548 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: you just walked in and you said, hi, sorry, I'm 549 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: a bit overdressed, but it's my birthday today. And she 550 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: said your confidence. I just thought I've got to hire 551 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: you on the spot because this girl's just walked in. 552 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: She's full of confidence, and the main part of that 553 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: job was answering phones, so their thing that they were 554 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: looking for was confidence. She said, you just walked in, 555 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: Ladi daar, it's my birthday. That's why it looks so nice. 556 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: And we crack up about that almost every time I 557 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: see her now every second Thursday. So that's a bit 558 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: of a funny story for you there. But I got 559 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: my first ever admin job, had. 560 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: No idea what I was really doing. 561 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: But again, at this point, I'd built up that false 562 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: confidence that I could learn anything. Throw me any task 563 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: and I will be able to do it. I told 564 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: them in the interview about my YouTube channel as well, 565 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: like that was the amount of confidence that I had. 566 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: She said, when you walked out the door, we jumped 567 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: straight onto your YouTube channel and was watching all those 568 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: and this is like, mind you, this is when YouTube 569 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: was the og. 570 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: YouTube Like it was shit, she said. 571 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: They went and watched my videos straight away, and so 572 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: they knew the whole time that I was working there, 573 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: that I was also making these little videos, and I 574 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: was maybe making like twenty dollars here and there out 575 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: of like the ads that were running on them. So 576 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: I decided randomly at nineteen years old, that, you know what, 577 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: I had enough of Newcastle. 578 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 2: I want to get out there and experience the world. 579 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: By this point, I feel like I've lived thirteen lives anyway, 580 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: because I've had basically twenty jobs already. I was going 581 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: to go to move to Brisbane to live with this 582 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: friend of mine who also made YouTube videos. 583 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 2: It was kind of this little fun thing that we 584 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: did together. 585 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: So I packed my car to the roof and I 586 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: drove to Brisbane and I was going to move straight 587 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: in with my friend. Me being me, I just went 588 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: up there and said, I'll figure it out when I 589 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: get there. When I got there, I went straight to 590 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: a restaurant, did an interview, got a job on the spot, 591 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: and started working in a restaurant because that was like 592 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: a good thing to fall back on. Was just that 593 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: hospitality background that I had. So at the same time 594 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: that I was working at this restaurant in Brisbane, I 595 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: started applying for more full time roles. Oh my goodness, 596 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: and something happened. Something really I don't know if it's 597 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: really funny. I've told this story before. I don't know 598 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: if I've told it on high scrollers. I won't tell 599 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: you the whole story here. But during this process of 600 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: working at the restaurant and trying to apply for full 601 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: time jobs, I also applied for a job at a 602 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: strip club, but working on the door. I don't know 603 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: if it's like a common practice, but I went for 604 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: this job at this strip club up in Brisbane, like 605 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: a really big establishment. It was pretty cool, but I 606 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: went in there because I was like, I can work 607 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: on the door, Like I'm like, I'm confident enough to 608 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: do that, Like there's no way I'll be confident enough 609 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: to be an actual dancer. And when I went there 610 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: and had this interview, they essentially didn't have the door job, 611 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: and it was just to try to kind of convince 612 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: me to sign up as a dancer. I think I've 613 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: done a whole High Scrollers episode on this. Maybe I 614 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: can do a little bonus or something one time. But 615 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: it was the weirdest experience because the interview was kind 616 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: of saying, you look like you could be a dancer, 617 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no, no, no, like I 618 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: can't even take my top off in front of my 619 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: boyfriend at the time kind of thing. 620 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: So no, not for me. But anyway, that's a whole 621 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: other story in itself. 622 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, I ended up landing myself a job as a 623 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: personal assistant at nineteen years old at a company called G. 624 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: James Glass and Aluminium, which I don't know about now, 625 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: but at the time they were Australia's biggest glass an 626 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: aluminium company. And I remember them saying to me, we're 627 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: even bigger than O'Brien to the point where we don't 628 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: have to advertise because I had never heard of them, right, 629 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: And so you know when you're applying for jobs online 630 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: and you're just applying left, right and center for any 631 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: kind of job, like it doesn't That was me anyway. 632 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: I was just like bulk applying and I remember when 633 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: they called me for the interview, They're. 634 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: Like, Hi, this is G. James Glass. 635 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: I went in for my interview and it's this Australia wide, 636 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: massive company, like this big corporate kind of environment and he's. 637 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: Little old nineteen year old me in my Camart button 638 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 2: up pinstripe shirt. 639 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: And I ended up getting the job there and it 640 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: was actually one of the coolest jobs they've had, and 641 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: the reason for that was because the boss that I 642 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: was a PA two, he was just the coolest guy ever. 643 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: His name was Tony and he was just such a legend, 644 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: and I was applying for a role to replace someone 645 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: who was going on maternity leave. I had them like 646 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: laughing the whole interview, even though it was this kind 647 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: of like corporate role, and I remember walking out and 648 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: thinking like that was really fine and they were really nice, 649 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: but I don't know if I'll get it because this 650 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: is like a corporate kind of vibe. 651 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: And I remember they called me back. 652 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: They said they would call me back in two weeks 653 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: because they had so many applications and so many interviews, 654 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: and they ended up calling me back really quickly, and 655 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: they invited me back in and offered me the job. 656 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: And I'll never forget this. 657 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: At nineteen years old, Tony saying to me that they 658 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: did my interview and they did some more interviews and 659 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: that they ended up picking me because I was the 660 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: only one that made them laugh. And they said, we 661 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: had people applying that have degrees and all this sort 662 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: of stuff, but you were the only one that made 663 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: us laugh. 664 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, it was really cool. 665 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: And so I landed that Monday to Friday role there, 666 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: and I was essentially just a PA to Tony and 667 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: the office I really began to feel that feeling of 668 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: waking up every day and thinking like this isn't for me, 669 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: Like this isn't how I want to live my life. 670 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's a feeling that a lot of 671 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: us experience, is that alarm going off. I would even 672 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: set my alarm, you know, the night before and have 673 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: that dreaded feeling of knowing that it's going to wake 674 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: me up in the morning and that I'm going to 675 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: have to get ready and get myself to work. And 676 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: I remember I would call my mom on the way 677 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: to work, and even though I loved my boss at 678 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: the time, I hated this routine that I felt myself 679 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: getting into. 680 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: And I remember I would say to myself, but. 681 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: This is what we're supposed to do, Like we're supposed 682 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: to just work Monday to Friday, get up, get ready, 683 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: eat your breakfast, go to work, come home and cooked 684 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: in and. 685 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: Go to sleep. 686 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: But I found myself like absolutely resenting that kind of life. 687 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: And I know that. 688 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: That's, you know, the way that we live life, Like 689 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 1: we work every day to get the money that we 690 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: need and we go home and it just rints and repeat. 691 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: But it was around this time that I really felt 692 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: myself hating that I'd wake up every day and literally want. 693 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: To cry because I hated it that much. And I'm 694 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,959 Speaker 2: sure a lot of you can relate to that feeling. 695 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: One of the big differences with me is I don't 696 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: know what it was, but I wasn't going to stop 697 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: until I figured out how. I couldn't feel that way 698 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: ever again, Like I just knew that I could get 699 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: out there and. 700 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: Do something more. So I worked at G James for a. 701 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: While, probably not that long, and then I had a 702 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: falling out with the friend that I moved to Queen's 703 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: four of course, so I moved back to Newcastle and 704 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: made my way home. It was actually really sad when 705 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: I quit there. I wrote my boss a really nice 706 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: card and he said things that like I'll never forget. 707 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: He had really young daughters at the time, who were 708 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: probably older now. He said when I left, like, I 709 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: hope my daughters grow up to be like you, And 710 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: it was just he was the nicest boss ever. I 711 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: always like think about him every now and then, and 712 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: he left such an impact on me. So I moved 713 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: back from Brisbane at the age of twenty and I 714 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: broke up with my boyfriend that I had at the time, 715 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: which is also really sad. And when I got back 716 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: and settled into Newcastle, I wound up in my last 717 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: full time jobs. The last full time job that I 718 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: had was when I was twenty one. It was another 719 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: nine to five office admin kind of role. 720 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: And if you go back and listen to my. 721 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: Very first episode of Big Business where I am now 722 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: at this point in this episode then leads into episode 723 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: one a Big Business. When I was twenty one, I 724 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: threw in that full time job just like I'd thrown in, 725 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, twenty plus jobs before that, and that's when 726 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: I began working for myself. I honestly love having such 727 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: a broad job history, and at the end of the day, 728 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm actually grateful that I had no guidance growing up. 729 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: Like I've said now in this episode and in other 730 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: ones before, having no guidance from my parents growing up 731 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: could have been a really bad thing, and I can 732 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: imagine it would be a bad thing for a lot 733 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: of people if they do grow up with no one 734 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: kind of saying, you know, you need to get a job, 735 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: and you need to stay in it for years so 736 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: it looks good on your resume, and so that you 737 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: have job security. 738 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: And I remember I even had. 739 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: Like five different super accounts, because you know how some 740 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: employers would make you sign up with. 741 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: These ones and those ones, like. 742 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: I had no one in my life teaching me about 743 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: I guess the more important foundations when it comes to 744 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: job security. But at the same time, I'm equally as 745 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: grateful because having no guidance kind of gave me that 746 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: sense of freedom and that sense of I don't have 747 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: to conform to any sort of societal standard, because I 748 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 1: very well could have stayed in that last full time 749 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: job that I had, or the one at the pest 750 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: control or whatever, and you know, thought to myself, Yep, 751 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: this is it. This is the dream for me, nine 752 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: to five, job security, all that kind of stuff, which 753 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: I know is fantastic, But instead it kind of led 754 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: me down this path of, you know, not stopping until 755 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: I found something that I actually wanted to do. And 756 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: I think having no guidance from my parents through all 757 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: those jobs and years, it taught me to be a 758 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: bit of a risk take up, like who cares if 759 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: I've never done a job like this, Let's just give 760 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: it a go. Like that's where I learned that trait 761 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: that I have now and you'll see me now in 762 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: my career. 763 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: I'm trying things and giving them a go. 764 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: I've been doing it since back then, and that's when 765 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: I learned it. I learned to have that confidence and 766 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: to believe in myself and not have any fears, because 767 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: if you just go at it full steam ahead, that 768 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: you might be surprised by what comes of it, you 769 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: might learn something, and you just never know what's going 770 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: to happen. So, yeah, that's a little bit of a 771 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: backstory in my job history, and I love being able 772 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: to talk about all the places that I've worked and 773 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: working in so many places as well. It's obviously given 774 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: me so much experience in all different fields, and I 775 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: think about it a lot now with the workplaces that 776 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: I've created, and it's also made me passionate about being 777 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: the kind of boss that I am today. I've had 778 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: so many bosses in my life of all different types, 779 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: and it's made me really mindful that I want to 780 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: create a workplace that people can enjoy showing up too 781 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: every single day. I'm really passionate about that. I want 782 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: to create roles that people can thrive in. I want 783 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: to be a boss that people can come to. I 784 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: want to be a boss that will lead instead of 785 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: boss around. So I often am thinking back on those 786 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: years today in the business that I'm in now and 787 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: with the staff I have working for me now. So 788 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: I really do feel like every step that I took 789 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: back then led me exactly to where I was today. 790 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: And if you want to hear the rest of this 791 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: story and how I then took off from twenty one 792 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: years old up until where I am now at thirty one, 793 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to episode one A 794 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: Big Business if you haven't already, because that's where that 795 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,959 Speaker 1: episode begins. It's kind of a big loop that we've 796 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: just done. But I hope that you've learned a little 797 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: something more about me in this episode, and maybe you've 798 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: learnt why I am the way that I am in 799 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: terms of just giving things a go and seeing how 800 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: it goes and not kind of thinking twice and just 801 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: jumping in the deep end, I would say that all 802 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: stems from having no guidance back then and just giving 803 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: things a go. So that's me and my history and 804 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: my resume, and I would hate to actually write that 805 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: all out on paper on an actual resume because we'd 806 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: be absolutely shocking, but we live, we learn, and we 807 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: can look back on it and laugh about it in 808 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: our podcast, So we absolutely love that. As always, I'm 809 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: going to be ending today's episode with a tip of 810 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: the week, and I feel like I always just lean 811 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: into the theme of each episode. So my tip of 812 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: the week this week is take that risk. 813 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: Do that thing that scares. 814 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: You, even if it's something as small as learning something 815 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: new like how to carry three plates. So that was 816 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: something I was so scared of, and I just did it. Anyway, 817 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: everything that I've done, I've just given. 818 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: It a go. 819 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: We all don't know what we're doing until we just 820 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: try it and give it a go. 821 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: So my advice is take that risk. 822 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: That's all I've done my whole life, and it's led 823 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: me to a really good point, I would say, and 824 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep making those risks and see where 825 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: they take me. 826 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: In the next ten years. 827 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: Who knows, I might work another ten jobs in between 828 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: now and then. Who knows? Or am I just stay 829 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing now forever? We'll soon see. But 830 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: that is my tip of the week. Take the risk, 831 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: and you should also take a risk by hitting five stars. 832 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: On this podcast because you never know what might come 833 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: from that. Anyway, my friends, that is another episode of 834 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: Big Business. 835 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: Complete that the Chase Your Dreams. 836 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've forgotten my outro. Sorry everyone, and remember 837 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: chase after those dreams as if they owe you money.