1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: On Skorne Lives Australia. This is the Reader Paney Show. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panahee Show. I'm 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: Danikiti Giorgio. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Coming up. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Labour sinks even lower with its dirty campaign tactics. Will 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: show you the latest attack on Peter Dutton, the implymer 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: on why Chris Bowen is using dodgy tactics to deceive 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: the public on the cost of nuclear energy. Donald Trump's 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense pick Pete Hegseth is attacked by woke 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: senators and targeted by protesters at a chaotic confirmation hearing. 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: Bartia Unga Saden will give us her take a win 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: for common sense. In the US, a bill preventing transgender 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: women from competing in female sports has passed through the 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: House of Representatives. Stephanie Bastian will join me, and of 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: course Lefty is losing arch, including this gender bending lefty 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: who can't quite grasp biology. 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: The parts you see on an ultrasound don't determine a 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: baby's gender. 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: Joining me now is. 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: Sky News contributor Prue McSwain. Prue, good to see you, 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for joining me on this show. 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: Now I want to start with Labour's anti Semitism envoy, 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: because she has warned that democracy is at stake and 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: that the nation's judiciary is failing Jewish Australians with weak 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: sentences that are handing anti Semitic criminals effective impunity. In 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: an extraordinary intervention after an explosion of anti Semitic attacks 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: on synagogues and family homes over the summer, Gillian Siegel 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 2: said Anthony Alberanezi must convene national Cabinet to take immediate action. 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: Proue. 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: Look, of course there. 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: Needs to be immediate action, but action should have happened 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: in my opinion months ago. Why has it taken so 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: long to get to the point where we're going. 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: We need intervention. Democracy is at. 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 5: Stake, well one hundred percent, And you know it was 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 5: a cynical thing. I believe that he even pointed a 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 5: nonvoy and he was never going to listen to her. Now, 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: of course he's on the skids, and this is why 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 5: Albanesi is on the skids, because Australians, mainstream Australians, are 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 5: sick and tired and concerned that this country has changed 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 5: so much. The social cohesion in this country, the tolerance 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 5: and acceptance that we've enjoyed for years, years and years 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: is now dissolving between our eyes. And it's because of 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: this government's in action. You know, it started on October seven, 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 5: on October nine, after the Opera House and the fact 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: that sanctions were not imposed on those people, those anti 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 5: Semitic acts, and it's been happening. It's all words from 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: this government and he's not listening to this envoy clearly, 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 5: the fact that he has what we've seen, what's happened 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 5: in the UN and what's been going on with Wong 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 5: and of Albanesi and how they've betrayed Australia and Israel 52 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 5: and the relationship we've had for so many years and 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 5: Jews everywhere, and in fact, what he doesn't understand this 54 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 5: is an attack on not just us, it's an attack 55 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 5: on all Australians who support yous, who have supported multiculturalism. 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 5: And this is now what we're facing. And it's because 57 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 5: it's totally and solely because of this government's inaction. 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I agreed. 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: It's interesting because a labor mayor in Sydney has also 60 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: said that his electorate has become a tinderbox after a 61 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: spate of anti Semitic attacks. 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: He also says the. 63 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: Greens are at every level have failed to combat the. 64 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: Hatred and inflame tensions. 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: This is according to Inner West Mayor Darcy Byrne, he's 66 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: calling for bipartisan action. Well, I would argue that, you know, 67 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: the coalition has been very good from the very beginning 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: and there's no bipartisan action proved because Labor haven't gotten 69 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: to that point where they want bipartisan action. 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: I agree with him wholeheartily on the Greens. 71 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: They've been a disgrace from the very beginning, but Labor 72 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: has to do something exactly. 73 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 5: You know, it's amusing that this Darcy Byrne, who's a 74 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 5: Labor mayor, is pointing the fear at the Greens. Sure, 75 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: as you say, the Greens have been culpable and are despicable, 76 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: and I think that they have underestimated the extent of 77 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 5: angst in mainstream Australia and with fair minded younger Australians 78 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 5: and even the elites because it's so bad. So I 79 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 5: think that you know, we've seen it in the election 80 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 5: in Queensland and various other polling and the Act and 81 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 5: the Act of course, and you know, you know that 82 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 5: they're losing support, and thank god they are. But in 83 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 5: this case, you know, this Labor mayor is having a 84 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 5: go at the Greens. Give us a break date, you 85 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 5: know there's an. 86 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: Election coming up. 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all very tactical in my view, prow. Now, look, 88 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: Peter Dutton and Anthony Abernezi have presented a bipartisan threat 89 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: of the strongest possible action against the Kremlin if Australian 90 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: foreign fighter Oscar Jenkins is confirmed to have been executed 91 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: by Russian forces following his capture in Eastern Ukraine. He 92 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: was the Prime Minister earlier. 93 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 6: We call upon Russia too immediately confirm Oscar jenkins status. 94 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 6: If there has been any harm caused to Oscar Jenkins, 95 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 6: it's absolutely reprehensible and the Australian Gubbment will take the 96 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 6: strongest action possible. 97 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: Proue, I highly doubt that Vladimir Putin's listening to Anthony Albanisi. 98 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: You know, the strongest condemnation. That's not strong condemnation. But 99 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: what action should be taken here in your view, because 100 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: this man is an Australian But what can we do really. 101 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 5: Well, this is the problem. I mean, short of doing sanctions. 102 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 5: We know that they've broken. Well, we don't even know 103 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 5: if the man has been killed, but we're assuming, we're assuming. 104 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, many of us. 105 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 5: Have wondered why he joined the Ukraine legion anyway, but 106 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 5: that's his choice. 107 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: It's tragic that this has happened. 108 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: Waving your finger at the ambassador here is not going 109 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 5: to do anything. They're saying they may expel him. Who 110 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 5: cares cares? 111 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: What's that going to? That's doing nothing. 112 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 5: So the problem is that the weakness of this government 113 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 5: and Albinizi is evident internationally. So the Russians won't give 114 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 5: us stuff what we do, so shot of sanctions and 115 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 5: holding if there is any money here, Russian money here 116 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 5: or something, I can't see what is it. It's just sort 117 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: of hitting them with a feather duck. 118 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean nothing's going to I mean they're 119 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: not shaking in their boots right now listening to Albo 120 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 2: from Australia, that's for sure. 121 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: Now look here we go again with dirty. 122 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: Campaign tactics, because the woman trying to oust Opposition leader 123 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: Peter Dutton has been accused of bullying after organizing a 124 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: fundraiser called Potato Night. This is from Labour's candidate for Dixon. 125 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: Ali Franz, who sent out email invites two supporters for 126 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: a Potato Night fundraiser with potato themed activities in a 127 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: quote distasteful nod to disparaging nicknames which target mister Dutton's appearance. Now, 128 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: pro look, this is the second such dirty tactic we've seen. 129 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: Remember that one that came out from the Victorian Labor branch. 130 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, where Peter Dutton's wife and 131 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: up in this ad. You know, Albanezy spent the last 132 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: week attacking Peter Dutton. As it is, you can see 133 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: a trend here. This is the trend now from Labor. 134 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: It's attack attacked because they've got nothing to show for themselves. 135 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: So do you think. 136 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: Dirty tactics of what Labour's going to be presenting between 137 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: now and a federal election. 138 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 5: I'm sure they are. But I say go your hardest, 139 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 5: because the more you do it, the more the rest 140 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 5: of us think you are despicable and you deserve to 141 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 5: be thrown out. And the amplifies the fact that they 142 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 5: have no policies, they have nothing else to say. Attacking 143 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 5: the man didn't work in America, as we saw with Trump, 144 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 5: and we you know We're. 145 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Better than this. 146 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: We as in the voters, are better than this. We're 147 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 5: not going to put up with this. Daily we are 148 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 5: reminded how bad this government is just in our day 149 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 5: to day lives, and they're just reinforcing it. So go 150 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 5: your hardest, call him every name under the same. So 151 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 5: it's like when we were little kids and news to 152 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: get call people names. 153 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: It's pathetic, isn't it. It is totally old and pathetic. Yeah, yeah, 154 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: but this is the problem now that we're heading into 155 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: an election. 156 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: Labour's got nothing to show for themselves because they were 157 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: elected on a cost of living mandate. They've made so 158 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: many stuff up since twenty twenty two. And this is 159 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: typical of the left that when they're under pressure the 160 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: polls about they start attacking so hardly surprising. Now this 161 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: is an important one because deradicalization programs have failed to 162 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: change the behavior of high risk individuals and authority sphere 163 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: could commit acts of terror in Australia or even produce 164 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: data on whether the initiative actually works. The Australian Institute 165 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: of Criminology found that the behavior of some individuals actually 166 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: worsened in the program, triggering the involvement of law enforcement agencies. 167 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 2: Prow look, I think that I take this as a 168 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: warning sign to Australia and a big worry. A couple 169 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: of weeks ago we saw the New Orleans terror attack. 170 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: That was a wake up call. That was a big, 171 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: big wake. 172 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: Up call about terrorism coming back into countries, into Western countries. 173 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: But from our perspective, I mean, if you are considered 174 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: or deemed. 175 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: To be at risk, surely we've got to enforce tougher consequences. 176 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: If you're from overseas, you need to be deported. We 177 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: can't just keep these people on programs if they're not rehabilitating. 178 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Because there are risks to society exactly. 179 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 5: James Patterson, you know who's so impressive, the Shadow Home 180 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 5: Affairs spokesman, was saying that post sentence restrictions need to 181 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 5: be imposed. We need to keep them in detention more. 182 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 5: You know what really gets to me is that why 183 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 5: are these preachers of hate Islam? 184 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: These are Islamic Islamic. 185 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 5: Preachers of hate who are clearly and openly inciting hatred 186 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 5: are not deported or shut down? 187 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Are we serious about this? 188 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 5: You know, having these programs. This one's called Living Safe Together, 189 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: intervention program. 190 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: It's one of. 191 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 5: Those sort of softly, softly, feel good things that are 192 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 5: not going to do anything for anyone. We've just committed 193 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 5: sixty one point seven million over four years for it, 194 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 5: and it's proven to be in effective. 195 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: Well, we walk on eggshells, don't we. We we we tiptoe. 196 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: This is typical tiptoeing. 197 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 2: Don't want to offend certain people this and look what happens. 198 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: They're not working now. This is I mean, the hypocrisy 199 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: is very very clear here. Oscar winning actor and so 200 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: called climate change activist Leonardo DiCaprio has faced backlash after 201 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: he used a private jet to flee the Wildflyers in 202 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Yes, they're all climate warriors when they want 203 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: to be climate warriors, prove. But then the truth always 204 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: comes out, doesn't it. 205 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 5: It sure does. It's spent eighty million or something already 206 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 5: on climate change. But we saw that with all these 207 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 5: you know, in Doha recently, all these cop out organization 208 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 5: or conferences where they all flying in their jets. It's 209 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: just a load of bull. Let's face, it is. But 210 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 5: I must admit if I was in his shoes and 211 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 5: the fires were fanning around me and I had a 212 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 5: private jet, I'd get the hell out of there. 213 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: I understand that you wouldn't get the hell out of it. 214 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: It's what did they call it, ridiculous hypocrisy. 215 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: It's everywhere, It's always there anyway, Thank you, Pro McSwain, 216 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: good to speak, there's always thanks for coming on this evening. Well, 217 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: we've all seen the devastating fires in Los Angeles. But 218 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: it didn't stop the alarmists blaming the fires on you 219 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: guessed it, climate change. Never mind the poor water management 220 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: by LA authorities. 221 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: The ignored warnings, the lack. 222 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: Of funding, the Biden administration stopping control burns, DEI policies 223 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: in the fire department, and the list goes on. 224 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: Not that that deterred the doomsday cult. 225 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 7: You would have to be a fool to not understand 226 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 7: what climate change is doing to this country, in the world. 227 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: Wildfire is raging in LA are highlighting the risk of 228 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: climate change. 229 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: Yes, climate change. 230 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 8: The wildfires in California are the leadst in a string 231 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 8: of natural disasters made worse by climate change. 232 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: Big part of why we're seeing more wildfires is climate change. 233 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about these destructive fire is compounded 234 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: by climate. 235 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 8: Climate change set up the conditions for this supercharged fire. 236 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 9: It exacerbated and increased by climate change. 237 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 10: Climate change which is political, but it's clearly a major 238 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 10: driver here. 239 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 6: Climate change will only make wildfires more common. 240 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: It's no wonder the American public is losing trust in 241 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: their news outlets, TV and newspaper reporters rank with the 242 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: likes of cast salespeople, lawyers, and advertising professionals. Joining me 243 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: now all the way from Saudi Arabia is esteemed geologists. 244 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: Professor Ian plimer Ian, nice to see you. Thank you 245 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: so much for joining me. After every natural disaster, why 246 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: do the left always rush to blame it all on 247 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: climate change? 248 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 11: Because they've never had any evidence that humans drive climate change. 249 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 11: It's never been showing. This is the greatest scientific scam 250 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 11: we've ever had in the history of time. No one 251 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 11: has ever shown that human emissions drive global warming. No 252 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 11: one has ever shown there's no data. 253 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 12: So here we have a problem. 254 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 11: I've been chasing climate institutes for years. Just give me 255 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 11: half a dozen scientific papers. They can't do it. 256 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 13: So if you've got ingrown toenails, or your car breaks down, 257 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 13: or there's a fire, that's not nearly as great as 258 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 13: the nineteenth century fires, then it's got to be climate changed. 259 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 11: We have to blame humans for what we're doing in this. 260 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 11: In Australia, we had huge fires in nineteen thirty nine 261 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 11: and again in the eighteen fifties. They were far greater 262 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 11: than anything we had in any summer in recent times. 263 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 11: Yet we're told of the recent fires are year to 264 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 11: climate change. Maybe they should look at actually maintaining the forests, 265 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 11: maintaining their vehicles, having a forest fighting crew rather than 266 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 11: the city fighting crew helping out. Maybe having fairly modern 267 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 11: electricity transmission wires rather than ancient wires. Maybe they shouldn't 268 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 11: be so clean and green and water underful, and build 269 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 11: houses in forests surrounded by flammable trees that are full 270 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 11: of oils. Maybe, just maybe the Left is being absolutely 271 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 11: hypical critical, and maybe they're showing that they're totally ignorant. 272 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely As he said, you've only got to look all 273 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: the way back into history to know that there were 274 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: bad fires all the way back then. 275 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Not that the Left will ever tell you that, of course. 276 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: Because it's all got to do with climate change, as 277 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: they want you to believe. Now, what's going on in 278 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: the US, because the Biden administration has rushed to allocate 279 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: more than seventy billion US dollars of funding for climate 280 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: initiatives before Donald Trump's inauguration. The outgoing administration has been 281 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: accelerating its allocation of cash for climate change and clean 282 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: energy programs before the changing presidency. And I'm not sure 283 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: what the point of it is because Trump's already pledged 284 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: to terminate what he calls the green new scam. So 285 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: what exactly is Biden trying to achieve in his dying 286 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: day in the administration. 287 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 11: Well, the point is very cynical. He's trying to trip 288 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 11: up Trump to make his life more difficult. He knows 289 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 11: that it can be changed. But this is typically the 290 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 11: way the left operates. It's all negative. It's cynical. It's 291 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 11: not nation building, it's not helping people. The left traditionally 292 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 11: has been wanting to look after people who are at 293 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 11: the bottom end of the spectrum, and they're doing the 294 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 11: exact opposite. Now Biden is just making the transition very difficult, 295 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 11: despite the fact that he was going to have an 296 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 11: orderly transition. So I just think this shows the Democrats 297 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 11: are pretty morally defunct, that the Democrats really don't care 298 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 11: at all about how people suffer. 299 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: No, that's very very clear, and looking forward to that inauguration. 300 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: The sooner the better. 301 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the world's biggest climate finance alliance, which has actually 302 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: been backed by major asset managers, is suspending its activities 303 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: and reviewing its structure. The Net Zero Asset Manager Initiative 304 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: was founded to promote the adoption of greenhouse gas reduction efforts. 305 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: And what does this tell. 306 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 11: You, Well, it tells you that reality sometimes strikes. We 307 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 11: had that globally, that we are aware that we cannot 308 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 11: keep industrial societies running on sunbeams and on sea breezes. 309 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 11: It's costing too much money. We're aware that we once 310 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 11: had a very good system of cheap, reliable electricity that 311 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 11: derived from having energy concentration in things like coal or 312 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 11: energy concentration in nuclear materials. And all of a sudden, 313 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 11: people are saying, well, this is not going to work. 314 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 11: And also we've got a major president who is going 315 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 11: to be changing things in the US. Things have already 316 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 11: changed in many other parts of the world. It's going 317 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 11: to change in the US, and that will drive changes 318 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 11: in the world. If you're here in Saudi Arabia and 319 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 11: you talk about climate change. It's one of the best 320 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 11: jokes you can make people raw with. 321 00:16:59,600 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: Laugh. 322 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 11: Finally, reality is coming home. 323 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also wonder if it's that the Trump 324 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: effect almost having an impact already before he's even creating. 325 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Now this is a real laugh. 326 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: Chris Bowen has been exposed as the most dangerous minister 327 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: in Albanese's cabinet because it's been revealed that the Energy 328 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: Minister weaponize the public service by instructing his department to 329 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: produce entirely flawed figures to allege Peter Dutton's nuclear energy 330 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: plan would see a forty nine percent electricity shortfall by 331 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: twenty thirty five. The Department of Climate Change and Energy 332 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: now says what it did was not an analysis of 333 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: the coalition's nuclear energy proposals, but an assumption driven calculation. 334 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: So ian these figures, they were a dream, but still 335 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: pushed out to the public. How are we supposed to 336 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: have a proper debate about energy in this country when 337 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: Bowen is feeding us lies? 338 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 11: Well, I'm not surprised. I mean, he's probably the worst 339 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 11: cabinet minister in my voting lifetime, and I first voted 340 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 11: in nineteen sixty one. A very sad id logue. He 341 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 11: cannot understand that there were dozens of countries that stay 342 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 11: alive with nuclear there are dozens of countries that are 343 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 11: increasing their coal fired power capacity. And yet he wants 344 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 11: to stick to his ideology. He wants to cook the books, 345 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 11: He wants to force people to cook the books. And 346 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 11: he is the very best thing that the Liberals have 347 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 11: got in the Albert Easy government. He just has to 348 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 11: stay there, please, mister Bones, stay in that cabinet position, 349 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 11: Keep opening your mouth, keep giving us the benefit of 350 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 11: your wisdom, keep showing us that you've had a very 351 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 11: successful charisma bypass operation. Just keep doing it, please, because 352 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 11: you're helping the Liberals. 353 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 14: Yeah. 354 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean, as much as I want him not to. 355 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 2: Be in that portfolio and your spot on, it's probably 356 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: doing the coalition of favor. Now look before we let 357 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 2: you go. The warnings are continuing. The Victorian government's aggressive 358 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: electrification of the power network is likely to result in 359 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: mass blackouts, with demand forecast to outweigh renewable energy supply 360 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 2: by more than thirty percent in some months. That's according 361 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: to a report by leading academic professor Simon Schauser, who 362 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: runs a Queensland government owned energy business himself. 363 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: How many more warnings do we need? AAMO has said it. 364 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: We've got multiple reports saying the same thing. We're going 365 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: broken backward in this country on this renewables energy fantasy, 366 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: aren't we? 367 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 11: Well we are, And look back in time a little bit. 368 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 11: Victoria had the cheapest electricity in the world that came 369 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 11: from these huge brown coal deposits in eastern Victoria. Those 370 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 11: brown coal deposits can keep Victoria going for thousands of years. 371 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 11: There is so much coal there, it's such good quality. 372 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 11: And the infrastructure was set up in Victoria to make 373 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 11: it the powerhouse of Australia, to make it the manufacturing 374 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 11: center Australia, and it was now if Victoria loves power, 375 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 11: that also kills off South Australia because says the interconnect 376 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 11: to bringing power across from Victoria into South Australia. So 377 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 11: we now have a domino effect that is set up 378 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 11: by bureau cramps and by politicians who know nothing about electricity. 379 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 11: We haven't listened to our electrical engineers. And again reality 380 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 11: will strike and reality is going to be very very 381 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 11: cruel in Victoria. 382 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: If it isn't already. I completely agree. I employment nice 383 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: to speak with you. Thanks very much for joining me 384 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: on the show this evening were coming up after the break. 385 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: You won't want to miss Lefties Losing Its Plus Pete 386 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: Hegsett's Confirmation hearing gate crashed by left Heckler's. 387 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: Bartia Unger Sagan is here for the latest from the US. 388 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: Now it's time for Lefties Losing it and don't we 389 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: have a treat come up for you the lunacy at 390 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: Pete Hegsett's Confirmation Hearing. You won't want to miss the 391 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: incoherent meltdowns. But first of this lefty who is reinventing 392 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: the gender will claiming the sex of a baby on 393 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: an ultrasound can't possibly be right. 394 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 3: The parts you see on an ultrasound don't determine a 395 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: baby's gender, and how is that possible? Well, think about 396 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 3: it like this marker a blue cap usually means a 397 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: blue marker, but sometimes marker caps get switched and in 398 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: this case it is a pink marker. See that's what 399 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: happened to me. They saw something on the ultrasound that 400 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 3: usually means it's a boy, but the cap was cap 401 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: and I turned out to be a girl. 402 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: Oh, it's all very lucrative now using a crayola pains 403 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: to determine gender. Who's going to tell him that swapping 404 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: caps makes no difference to the parts you're born with. 405 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: But cute, try, very cute, very sweet. 406 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: Now to Donald Trump's impending inauguration can't come soon enough 407 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: and he's pick to perform the beautiful Carrie Underwood, and 408 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: the news has truly shattered and destroyed. There has been 409 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 2: hyaenas over at the view. In fact, it's yet another 410 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: hard knock for them. 411 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it, even though I was no. 412 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 10: I would not. I would not normalize him. And she says, 413 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 10: I love our country. How do you love your country 414 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 10: and support and normalize somebody who was a convicted felon 415 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 10: who really wants to destroy the country. In my opinion, 416 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 10: I don't understand how you say you love your country 417 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 10: at the same time as you normalize this convicted felon, 418 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 10: which I can say now every. 419 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: Day have we heard from Suddy Austin yet a smiley, 420 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 4: true delight of a woman. 421 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Joy. I can't sing a lick, 422 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: but I certain and I have not been asked, but 423 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: if I were asked, it would be a hard no. 424 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness, Thank goodness, we clarified that one. 425 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: We were losing sleep. We wanted to know the answer 426 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: to that. 427 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: And no doubt Sonny's announcement would come as to a 428 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: shock to Donald Trump himself. 429 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: And it's not just the you. This is the worst 430 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: day of the feminist Coults lives. 431 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 14: Carry Underwood is going to perform at Trump's inauguration. 432 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: Now to Gavin Newsom, the hapless and hopeless California governor 433 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: who is really living up to his name as a 434 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: slimy used car salesman, can someone please explain the shoulder shimmy. 435 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 15: We're dealing with a myriad of issues. I was just 436 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 15: talking to Josh Green, the governor of down in Hawaii. 437 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 15: You had some ideas around some land juice concerns. He 438 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 15: has run speculators coming in buying up properties. 439 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: Ah, how is that? 440 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: A little little smile, a little shimmy, a little dance, manicuit, 441 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: hair fresh botox, A real man of the people in 442 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: the middle of a fire zone, isn't he? 443 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: And here he is again showing just how personable he is. 444 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 15: My humble position and it's and it's not just being 445 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 15: naively optimistic that only reinforces the imperative moving quickly doing 446 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 15: in the spirit of collaboration cooperation. 447 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: He's over stimulated, perhaps taking California dreaming way too far. 448 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: And never mind Gavin Newsome's failures to prepare the state 449 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: for fires, because you can always trust Whoopee Goldberg to 450 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: give the best possible explanation. 451 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 1: Here's how this works. 452 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 16: There was a fire catastrophe in California. 453 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: Had to do it wins. 454 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 16: You know how they're always saying, oh, the wind. 455 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: It actually does. 456 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 16: The winds move things and sparks mooth things, and it 457 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 16: doesn't matter how much water you have if nine hundred 458 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 16: thousand buildings go up at the same time. 459 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: Wow, how was that? 460 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 2: It is good to know that Whoopee is such an 461 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: expert on wind. And speaking of looney explanations, I want to. 462 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 14: Take a minute to talk about looting because I think 463 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 14: it's worth considering why people would run into an active 464 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 14: fire to steal stuff rather than fleeing the fire. And 465 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 14: it seems like in the media coverage that I'm listening 466 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 14: to that people think that people are just like greedy 467 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 14: who want to be looting, And I'm just wondering if 468 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 14: maybe these people have actually considered whether it is safer 469 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 14: for them to run into a fire or to continue 470 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 14: to exist within capitalism without access to resources, And after 471 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 14: weighing the pros and cons they concluded that the safer 472 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 14: option is to run into the fire to steal stuff. 473 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that absolutely makes title sense. 474 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Title sense, doesn't it? 475 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: Now to paint Hegseth being hounded by bitter banshees at 476 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: a Senate committee, And I've got to say this basically 477 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: just sums it up. 478 00:25:53,119 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: Organization says it old, isn't it. 479 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: But you know, look, it wouldn't be a lefties losing 480 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: it without actually taking you. 481 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: Through the lefties losing it. 482 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 2: So let's start with Elizabeth Warren, the delightful Elizabeth Warren, 483 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: banging and carrying on. 484 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 8: In other words, you're quite sure that every general who 485 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 8: serves should not go directly into the defense industry for 486 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 8: ten years. You're not willing to make that same pledge. 487 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 7: I'm not a general, Senator. 488 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: Oh, the gotcha didn't quite work there, and the yelling 489 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: theatrical sideshow didn't end there. 490 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 9: In the DoD Everything you've said in these public statements 491 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 9: is politics. I don't want women, I don't want moms. 492 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: What's wrong with a mom? 493 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 9: By the way, once you have babies, you therefore are 494 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 9: no longer able to be lethal. I mean, you're basically 495 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 9: saying women after they have children can't ever serve in 496 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 9: the military in a combat role. It's a silly thing 497 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 9: to say. It's a silly thing to say beneath the position, 498 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 9: and that you are aspiring to to denigrate LGBTQ service 499 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 9: members is a mistake. If you are a sharpshooter, you're 500 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 9: as lethal regardless of what your gender identity is, regardless 501 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 9: of who you love. 502 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: It just doesn't. It doesn't in there. 503 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: It didn't in there because Q what appeared to be 504 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: a drunk and incoherent Maizie Herno from Hawaii. 505 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 17: Would you use our military to take over Greenland or 506 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 17: an ally of Denmark? 507 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: Senator? 508 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 7: One of the things that President Trump is so good 509 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 7: at is never strategically tipping his hand, and so I 510 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 7: would never in this public forum give one way or 511 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 7: another to direct what orders the president in any context. 512 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 17: That sounds to me that you would contemplate carrying out 513 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 17: such an order to basically invade Greenland and take over 514 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 17: the Panama Canal. 515 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I really brought the big ones out from Hawaii 516 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: for this one, didn't I? And then the Democrats tragic 517 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: attempt at a gotcha moment backfired yet again. 518 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 7: Can you give me an experience or your actual experience 519 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 7: of driving innovation in an organization. 520 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 17: Give me an example of where you have done. 521 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 7: My Goodness Center absolutely a Concerned Veterans for America. We 522 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 7: created the Fixing Healthcare Veterans Healthcare task Force, a bipartisan 523 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 7: task force that never been done before, to create policy, 524 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 7: to drive policy change on Capitol Hill that organizations fought 525 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 7: ferociously against. Where we got the Via Accountability Act passed 526 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 7: and the Mission Act passed in a way that a 527 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 7: nonprofit of our size, veterans. 528 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: Organization, we appreciate it. Never done. 529 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 7: You're testified in all the letters we've put forward to 530 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 7: the committee which you're on the Okay, I have limited time. 531 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: Joining me now with plenty more lefties losing it content 532 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: is Newsweek Deputy Opinion editor Bartia Unga Sagan Bartia, thank 533 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: you so much for joining me. Let's start with that 534 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: brilliant performance by Pete Hegseeth at the Senate confirmation hearing. 535 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: Not only did he have to battle with a lunatic 536 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: congressmen and women. 537 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: The hearing was interrupted multiple times by protesters. 538 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 7: Have a look at the thank you for figuratively and 539 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 7: literally having my back. 540 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 5: You are Amus, not only that you are a. 541 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 18: Prety and readiness. 542 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 12: We stud money to find children, and shame on all you. 543 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 12: We need money. We need money for. 544 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Only children. 545 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 11: That's a recruiting process. 546 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: Bart Yea considering this complete clown show. Peter haig Seth 547 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: absolutely owned that hearing. Why do the left love this 548 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: performative and theatrical chaos so much? 549 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: It's so funny. 550 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 12: You know, all of these people who are angry about 551 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 12: a policy that he would have no power over or 552 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 12: control over if he was confirmed as head of DoD 553 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 12: just completely irrelevant. And you're so right about the performativity 554 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 12: of it. I believe many of those protesters were from 555 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 12: Code Pink, which just shows up and says the same 556 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 12: stuff over and over, irregardless of you know what the 557 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 12: event is. He really handled himself very well. I thought 558 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 12: he was very respectful, including to the Democratic senators, some 559 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 12: of whom were very aggressive in their questioning of him. 560 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 12: I do think there was one missed opportunity, which is 561 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 12: Elizabeth Warren brought up that he has said, I think 562 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 12: quite rightly that generals should not be allowed to take 563 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 12: positions in the private sector in the defense industry for 564 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 12: ten years after they resign, and she asked him, well, 565 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 12: would you hold yourself to that same standard, and his 566 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 12: answer was well, I'm not a general, which many people 567 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 12: laughed at. But honestly, that was a moment I thought 568 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 12: for a little bit of populist bipartisanship, why not say, 569 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 12: of course, as head of DoD, I would be in 570 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 12: a position to be corrupted if I didn't make that 571 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 12: scene promise. I wish he had done that, But aside 572 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 12: from that, I thought his performance was really impeccable. Of Course, 573 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 12: his wife was sitting there supporting him, and he really 574 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 12: acquitted himself with a lot of dignity. 575 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: I completely agree. 576 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: He was being hounded by these senators and every answer. 577 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: He gave was so poised. While they were. 578 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: Banging on the tables, they were carrying on, so I 579 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: actually think he did exceptionally well under the circumstances. Now, 580 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: Bartia one Earth is happening with the leadership team at 581 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: the City of Los Angeles. First, of course, Mayor Karen 582 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: Bass delivered this rather bizarre and uncomfortable performance when she 583 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: was asked why she trotted off to Ghana in the 584 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: middle of the bushfire crisis. 585 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 19: Do you, oh citizen's an apology for being absent while 586 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 19: their homes were burning? Do you regret coming the fire 587 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 19: department budget by millions of dollars? 588 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: Madam? 589 00:31:53,800 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 19: There have you nothing to say today that have you 590 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 19: absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today? Elon Musk 591 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 19: says that you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, 592 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 19: Madam Mayor have you absolutely nothing to say to the 593 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 19: citizens today who are dealing with this disaster? 594 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: And now we find out that her deputy Mayor, Brian Williams, 595 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: was reportedly placed on administrative leave last month after the 596 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: FBI raided his home in connection to an alleged bomb 597 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: threat he made against city Hall. 598 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: But here this guy was overseeing the La fire department. 599 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: How on earth are these people running the city. 600 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 12: You know what's so amazing to me is that the 601 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 12: rank and file firefighters have been able to perform an 602 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 12: almost inhuman level of competence, saving hundreds and thousands of 603 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 12: people's lives at a time when this insane act of 604 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 12: God has burned so much of Los Angeles, and yet 605 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 12: the leadership is so utterly incompetent. And I think it's 606 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 12: not just on this front, right, California has become a 607 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 12: symbol of the broken contract between democratic leadership and the 608 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 12: voters and the citizens who on a host of issues, 609 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 12: whether it's homelessness or crime or just a functioning city, 610 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 12: they look to their leaders and they just see these 611 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 12: empty suits like Karen Bass or you know, just it's 612 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 12: what is Gavin Newsom but a good haircut on top 613 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 12: of a suit, right, I mean, there's just nothing happening there. 614 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 12: And I really think that, you know, it is both 615 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 12: the case that anybody would have struggled with a disaster 616 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 12: of this magnitude and the case that these two have 617 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 12: come to represent in these moments, just the absolute absence 618 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 12: of democratic leadership, especially in a place like California. 619 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely look for leadership during these times of crisis, and 620 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: my heart goes out to them because there simply is 621 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 2: no leadership right now. And speaken of, dozens of looters 622 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: have been caught sneaking into ritzy neighborhoods in LA following 623 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: those wildfires. More than forty people have since been named 624 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 2: and shamed by the Santa Monica Police Department. 625 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: Buttia, how big of an issue is this now? 626 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 12: Oh gosh, what a horrible, horrible thing to see in 627 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 12: a moment that should be unifying, and I think really 628 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 12: has been unifying, because, of course, it looks to us 629 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 12: that this was a tragedy that struck the very rich, 630 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 12: because so many movie stars have lost their homes, but 631 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 12: there were a lot of working class and middle class 632 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 12: neighborhoods that were also hit very, very hard, and there's 633 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 12: been a lot of unity in coming together and people 634 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 12: demanding better on behalf of each other. And they're fellow 635 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 12: Americans and fellow Californians. And then to see something like this, 636 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 12: Isn't it just so heartbreaking that there are people who 637 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 12: would take advantage of us in the weakest, most vulnerable moments. 638 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: No, it's just absolutely awful, awful to hear that this 639 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: is happening. Now, let's move on. Now we've got to 640 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: talk about MSNBC. It really seems as though it keeps 641 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 2: going downhill for that. 642 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: Liberal lunatic network. 643 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: And of course it's all happening a days before Donald 644 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 2: Trump returns to the White House. But now it's President 645 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: Rashida Jones has announced that she is stepping down after. 646 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: Four years in the role Bartia. 647 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 2: Between the failing, the dismal ratings, the crazy hosts who 648 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 2: are so desperate a restructure, and now they've lost their boss, 649 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 2: the question has to be asked, what does the future 650 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 2: hold for MSNBC. 651 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 12: I have to tell you AMSNBC, you know, getting rid 652 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 12: of its boss, Mark Zuckerberg, you know, out there with 653 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 12: the mayor Kolpers. It really makes me sick to my 654 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 12: stomach because they are out there pretending like they did 655 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 12: not intentionally try to turn half of the country against 656 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 12: the other half just because they failed. Now suddenly they're saying, 657 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 12: we're going to turn over a new leaf. We're going 658 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 12: to do the right thing. They are just following the vibes. 659 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 12: They are just following the winds and bowing to pressure again. 660 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 12: Now it happens to be pressure to the people who 661 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 12: have always wanted what's best for this country, bowing to 662 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 12: pressure to people who want to unify the country. But 663 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 12: don't for a second believe that these people have anything 664 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 12: but a profit motive at stake here. They're not doing 665 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 12: this because they've had to come to Jesus moment. Whatever 666 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 12: they say, they're doing this because the country has turned 667 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 12: against the divisiveness of progressive politics, and so they're now 668 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 12: trying to ride the wave. And what is that wave. 669 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 12: It's the unity that President Trump has brought with him 670 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 12: by unifying the working class in this country. And on 671 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 12: the one end, yeah, it's great that they're going to 672 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 12: stop calling everybody recess and stop calling everybody names and 673 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 12: stop trying to demonize people as Nazis and as Hitler. 674 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 12: But on the other hand, it's going to be a 675 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 12: long road to build back the trust that they squandered 676 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 12: when they really tried to turn Americans against each other. 677 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and while they persist with these crazy hosts like 678 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: the Joyless Joy read realistically that there is no hope 679 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: for MSNBC, seriously, that they're just a joke of a network. Now, Bartia, 680 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: the leftist DC mayor, has distanced herself from an anti 681 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: Trump ad displaying the city's official logos keep DC Trash Free. 682 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: As you can see, this ad reads. 683 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: Featuring a MAGA hat wearing man holding a copy of 684 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 2: Project twenty twenty five with a red line through his head, 685 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 2: and the logos for the district of Columbia Department of 686 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: Public Works and the Mayor's Office of the City Clean Program. Now, 687 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 2: the Mayor's office has since claimed that they had no 688 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: part in creating or authorizing this ad. 689 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: But Bartia, it's quite. 690 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 2: Incredible that something like this could have ever been produced in. 691 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: The first place. 692 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 2: It says plenty about what sort of a place DC 693 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: has become. 694 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 12: Oh absolutely, And if this had happened four years ago 695 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 12: or eight years ago, she probably would have been taking 696 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 12: credit for it. 697 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: Right. This is how you see. 698 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 12: That we're really in a new moment, and I'm so 699 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 12: grateful for it. 700 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: You do see people. 701 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 12: On the left trying to distance themselves from just the 702 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 12: absolutely toxic rhetoric around Donald Trump over the last decade. 703 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 12: I think they've been really chastened by their voters. And 704 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 12: there are people who want to say, Okay, how can 705 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 12: we make our way back to the center, how can 706 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 12: we once again represent working class voters? Whether they want 707 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 12: to hear the answer to that question is a very 708 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 12: different story. 709 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a very different story. But Jay, it 710 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: just speaks volumes, doesn't it. 711 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: Now. 712 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 2: Look, you mentioned the inauguration. We're already days away from it. 713 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 2: It couldn't come soon enough, finally we're at that pointy end. 714 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 2: But I'm going to ask you about these reports that 715 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 2: Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg will all be 716 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: in attendance with a prominent spot at that ceremony. Bartie, 717 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 2: I mean, these tech CEOs, they've always really been rivals, 718 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: but now they're all on the same side in a way. 719 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: What does that suggest in your view? 720 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 12: All right, I may be reading too much into this, 721 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 12: but to me, this actually looks like a little bit 722 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 12: of a downgrading of Elon Musk, who has of course 723 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 12: been Donald Trump's, you know, number two since he won 724 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 12: the election. He's in every photo, He's next to him 725 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 12: at Maro Lago all the time. 726 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: But at the. 727 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 12: Inauguration he's going to be seated along with every other 728 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 12: tech titan who paid a million dollars toward Trump's transition team. 729 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 12: And I have to say I feel relieved to see that, because, 730 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 12: of course you have all of these people now bending 731 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 12: thenee to Trump, trying to ingratiate themselves, people like Jeff 732 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 12: Bezos and Zuckerberg who were so anti Trump for so 733 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 12: but I am glad to see Elon Musk put back 734 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 12: in his place. That is where he belongs. You know, 735 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 12: he has a very close relationship with China, like everybody 736 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 12: in Silicon Valley, is constantly bending the knee to China 737 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 12: and to China's demands, And so I feel a little 738 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 12: bit relieved to see him put back in the company 739 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 12: of those others, so that Donald Trump can make good 740 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 12: on his promises to the American people in his real 741 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 12: America first push on issues like immigration, which of course 742 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 12: the Maga Movement and Elon Musk have been at loggerheads over, 743 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 12: and also punishing China for all of the ways in 744 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 12: which it continues to be our greatest adversary. 745 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: That's a really good point. It's certainly putting them back 746 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 2: in their place, that's for sure. Now, look, let's talk 747 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 2: about TikTok, because there have been reports that Chinese officials 748 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 2: were in preliminary talks about a potential option to sell 749 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: TikTok's operations in the US too Elon Musk should the 750 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,479 Speaker 2: app be unable to avoid an. 751 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: Impending ban over there. TikTok has since dismissed that. Bartia, 752 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: what do you think could happen here? 753 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: It's very interesting to me because there are over one 754 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy million users in the US alone, many 755 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 2: of whom who have built platforms and businesses. They're making 756 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 2: money now from this app. 757 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: It's so popular. 758 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 2: If Alon Musk doesn't step in and buy it, is. 759 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: It really the end in the US? 760 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 12: I think it might be. The Chinese have indicated that 761 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 12: they would rather completely delete the app than sell it. 762 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 12: I think it's very interesting if it does go to 763 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 12: Elon Musk. What that says again about his relationship with China, 764 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 12: because they would rather delete the app than allow an 765 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 12: American to buy it. Except Elon Musk, right, which tells 766 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 12: you a lot about that relationship with the CCP. But okay, 767 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 12: they're denying it for now. They're not known for telling 768 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 12: the truth. I do think that it could happen that 769 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 12: TikTok will simply disappear from our phones. It presents a 770 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 12: major national security risk. The Chinese are constantly constantly stealing 771 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 12: data off. 772 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: Of people's phones. 773 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 12: It's also very unhealthy for children. We know that there 774 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 12: are kids who committed suicide because the algorithm on TikTok 775 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 12: led them down that dark road. And most importantly, the 776 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 12: Chinese don't allow their own children to use this, which 777 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 12: tells you a lot about how they think it impacts children. 778 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 12: They have their own Chinese version, which is incredibly educational 779 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 12: and very boring. Apparently it's impossible to stay on it 780 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 12: for more than twenty minutes without getting born out of 781 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 12: your mind and shutting out of it. So I think 782 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 12: it could either sell it to an American or get 783 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 12: rid of it. Selling it to Elon Musk is like 784 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 12: allowing the Chinese to keep operating it in my opinion. 785 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, fair enough. I'll be very curious. 786 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of TikTok uses over the 787 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: US who are crying over this decision, but yeah, it 788 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 2: remains to be seen, doesn't it. 789 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 1: Now? Before we let you go. 790 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of conversation surrounding a ceasefire deal between 791 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: Israel and Hamas Bartiya. 792 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: How would something like this benefit to Israel? 793 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 12: So Israelis are very divided on this because they feel 794 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 12: that the deal is it's very complicated. On the one hand, 795 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 12: they're going to get back thirty three highsages, not all 796 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 12: of them are alive, but they will get back a 797 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 12: lot of all of the remaining women, including the women's 798 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 12: soldiers who were horrifically horrifically captured by HEMS. So this 799 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 12: is obviously a huge win. On the other hand, they 800 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 12: feel that they will not be allowed to continue prosecuting 801 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 12: the war to the full, fullest extent. I think this 802 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 12: is a great deal. I think Donald Trump knew exactly 803 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 12: what he was doing when he puts Steve Witkoff in 804 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 12: charge of this, Steve Whitcoff, who showed up and said 805 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 12: to b B Natanyao, We're going to do this President 806 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 12: Trump's way, and he wants those hostages released, and so 807 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 12: you're gonna have to say hello. And then Steve Witkoff 808 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 12: went to Qatar, where he has a really good relationship 809 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 12: with the Qataris, and managed to get Hemas to the table. 810 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 12: So I think, first of all, it's a great deal 811 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 12: to see those girls home in the arms of their 812 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 12: fathers and mothers. I cannot wait for the moment. I 813 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 12: don't think Donald Trump is going to allow Israel to 814 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 12: be in a weak position visa Vihmas. I think that 815 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 12: he will reward them for doing this, And I think 816 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 12: that this is an example of what we can expect 817 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 12: from Donald Trump's foreign policy. More broadly, he is the 818 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 12: deal maker. He knows how to make the Middle East 819 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 12: do what he thinks it should do. My friend said 820 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 12: Jalani says, Donald Trump is kind of like a Gulf Arab. 821 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 12: You know, he sends his son in law and his 822 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 12: you know, Orthodox Jews and you know, rich developers to 823 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 12: go over there and push his interests and get a 824 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 12: good deal. And you know that's what he did. And 825 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 12: he's not even president yet. There was one of the 826 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 12: Arab officials in Doha gave an interview and he said 827 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 12: Donald Trump, through Steve Whitkoff, got more done in one 828 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 12: conversation with Natanyahu than Biden did in the two years 829 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 12: since October seventh. And I think that just speaks volumes. 830 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 12: Thank God Barhashem. We are in a new era and 831 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 12: I truly hope that you know, all of those people 832 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 12: come home, that the families who's who's whose hostages, family 833 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 12: members who are hostages are dead, get their body so 834 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 12: they can give them a proper burial and they should 835 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 12: never ever happen again. 836 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, we all hope and pray for the same. 837 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 2: At our Unga Sagan always really great to speak with you. 838 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on the show. 839 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,280 Speaker 2: This evening still to come. Women's sports delivered a major 840 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: win after a bill to prevent biological men from competing 841 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 2: past the United States House of Representatives. Stephanie Bastian will 842 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 2: join me next to some great news in the US, 843 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 2: A bill preventing transgender women from competing in female sports 844 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 2: at schools across the country has passed through the House 845 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 2: of Representatives. It's clear that Trump effect is well and 846 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 2: truly in swing. Joining me now is Women's Forum Australia's 847 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 2: head of advocacy, Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie, thanks for joining me 848 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 2: explaining the significance of this decision to us. 849 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 4: Great to join you, Danika. This is absolutely wonderful. This 850 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 4: really compliments the decision last week by the courts to 851 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 4: overturn Title nine, which is a piece of legislation that 852 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 4: was introduced to protect women in education settings and to 853 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 4: protect them from discrimination on campus. What this legislation, What 854 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 4: this bill will do if it passes through the Senate's 855 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 4: still got to go through there yet. It will entrench 856 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 4: into law protection for women in sports. It will ensure 857 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 4: that male competitors who identify as women can't invade these 858 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 4: sports and. 859 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: Take their places. 860 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 4: It will reduce women from the risk of injury and 861 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 4: harm overall, it's a wonderful piece of legislation. It's something 862 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,479 Speaker 4: that we actually need here in Australia as well. Claire 863 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 4: Chandler has a bill, the Save Women's Sports Bill, and 864 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 4: I really hope it gets some attention, particularly in the 865 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 4: lead up to the election, because we know that women 866 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 4: in Australia are being harmed by these policies, particularly in 867 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 4: a community setting where they're prioritizing diversity and inclusion of 868 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 4: a fairness and safety. 869 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 870 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 2: So this is a wake up call to Australia because 871 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 2: we've got a lot of problems when it comes to 872 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 2: these issues down under. Now, look, we should all be 873 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 2: very concerned about the indoctrination of children in classrooms into 874 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 2: this woke gender ideology, but have a look at this. 875 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 2: Over in the US, Sarah McBride is the first transgender 876 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: member of Congress. She was participating in a Jazz and 877 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,760 Speaker 2: Friends National Day of School and Community Readings, which provides 878 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 2: trainings and resources for elementary school educators to help quote 879 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 2: welcome diverse families, create LGBTQ and gender inclusive schools, prevent 880 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 2: bias based bullying, and support transgender and non binary students. 881 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: Have a look at this. 882 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 16: I have a girl Green, but a boy Bardy. 883 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: This is called. 884 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 2: Transgender, Stephanie. This is an absolute disgrace. They had children 885 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 2: and they're being exposed to woke gender ideology already, and 886 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 2: yet once again they claim it's all done under the 887 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 2: banner of inclusivity. 888 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: Where does it end. 889 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean, this is a classic example of the 890 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 4: harmful indoctrination that is being done to kids. It's not 891 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 4: only in doctrination, it's factually incorrect. Well, I think the 892 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 4: American government needs to do is they need to look 893 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 4: at organizations like the American Library Association and all the 894 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 4: work programs that they're running. They've canceled Laura Ingles Wilder 895 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 4: over her historic recordings of American history through her literacy, 896 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 4: They've promote diversity inclusion programs which are very woke, and 897 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 4: they need to strip the funding from these organizations. And 898 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 4: this is something we actually need to do in Australia too. 899 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 4: The only reason organizations like AKON are being propped up 900 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 4: and their subsidiary organizations through their education programs at schools 901 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 4: and in libraries is because of the millions of dollars 902 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 4: being poured into them. By taxpayer funds. Let the private 903 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 4: sector decide if they want to fund these organizations, but 904 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 4: it shouldn't be coming from the public person has to stop. 905 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 2: It does look we're almost out of time, but very quickly. 906 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 2: A teenager has been granted permission to access cross sex 907 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 2: hormones despite a family court judge in Australia conceding that 908 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 2: there are risks associated with the treatment. I find this baffling, Stephanie. 909 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 2: I mean, if there are risks, I give it to 910 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 2: a teenager. 911 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 4: It's absolutely devastating for the child that's involved. But the 912 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 4: judgment noted that they gave great weight to the National 913 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 4: Standards of Care, which is being pushed by w PATH 914 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 4: in conjunction with OSPAK, both discredited organizations in this field. 915 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 4: It's being promoted by activists. What we need, Kderanekia, is 916 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 4: we need to have an inquiry, a national inquiry, because 917 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 4: it's wrong that these judges are making decisions on this 918 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 4: outdated information. Kudos to the parents that are in court fighting, 919 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 4: putting their time and money in line to save their children, 920 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 4: but they shouldn't have to. And with what we know overseas, 921 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 4: with the findings of the CAST review and the international 922 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 4: community moving away from the gender affirmation model. It is 923 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 4: totally unacceptable that in twenty twenty five these decisions are 924 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 4: still being made and we haven't had a national inquiry. 925 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. It's an absolute disgrace. 926 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 2: Stephanie Bastian, good to speak with you. 927 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining me this evening. Well 928 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: that's it for me. Up next is news Night. Good 929 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: Night 930 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 6: Mm hm