WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 17 June 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:04.280 On scorings Australia. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.040 This is the Reader Panalty Show. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.319 Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. I'm 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:15.240 Cali Marcus filling in for RITA coming up tonight. Alban 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.400 EASi stood up by Trump at the G seven. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.840 I'll bring you all the latest with my panel. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.680 In a moment a university academic stood down after calling 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.360 for Zionists to be executed. New South Wales Liberal MP 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.200 Chris Rath joins me with the details and of course 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:37.080 left he's losing it, featuring this totally sane individual. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:43.600 No, no, god boy good. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.599 But let's begin with Prime Minister Anthony Alberzi being blind 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.640 sided after US President Donald Trump decided to leave the 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:57.560 G seven early and before they'd had a chance to meet, 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.840 without any warning to Australia. It follows weeks of will 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.440 they won't they speculation about a first face to face 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.840 meeting between the pair, where the Orchist deal was due 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:09.440 to be the. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:10.880 Main topic of discussion. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.520 Now there are concerns over the future of the Defense 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.480 packed as the US conducts its review into the agreement, 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:23.600 led by prominent Orcers skeptic Trump's under Secretary of Defense 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:27.520 Policy Elbridge Colby, but there was a glimmer of hope 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:32.040 during Trump's joint appearance with the UK Prime Minister Keth Starmer, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.680 where he indicated the deal would proceed. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:36.319 Yep, we're proceeding with that. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.120 It's a really important deal to both of this. 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.120 I think the person that was doing a review, we 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.320 did a review when we came into government, so that 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.640 makes good sense to me. But it's a really important 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.520 We're very long time partners and allies and friends, and 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.960 we've become friends in a short period of time. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.880 Joining me now for the latest on this is the 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.960 Deputy executive director at the Institute of Public Affairs, Daniel 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.559 Wild and News Corps senior Patrick Carline. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.640 Thank you both of you. Now, Dan, it was. 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.400 A bit embarrassing, I think for Albanizi to be stood 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.240 up by Trump just minutes after he'd confirmed to media 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.320 that he'd secured a meeting, and reportedly with no prior 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.160 notice to Australian officials. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:20.120 Yeah, that's right. 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.079 I've got to say, Caroline that that's a clip you 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.000 displayed of Keir Starmer and Donald Trump didn't fill me 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:26.920 with a ton of confidence. They didn't seem all that 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.560 invested in ucast, but we'll see what happens there. 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.799 But look, I think you're right. The issue here is it. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.080 Appears to be the case that Anthony Albanesi is not 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.640 really taken seriously on the international stage and is not 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.600 really respected, and that would be a concern for the 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.960 government here. There are some within labor who have a 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:52.520 relatively cavalier attitude towards the United States, and some of 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.040 whom are actively hostile towards the Trump administration. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.360 And whether you like Trump or not is beside. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:03.080 The point is obviously our most important ally and so 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.680 I think there's probably a sense from the United States 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.520 that perhaps the current government here in Australia is not 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.959 as committed and as serious as it should be about 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.679 that defense relationship. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.359 So I think that explains why Trump. 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.239 Has basically stood up Anthony Alberizi on this occasion. 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.080 Part Dan says he's not so confident judging by those 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:27.160 comments from the joint press conference, but Albanezy says that 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.680 he found those comments very positive. What do you think 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.360 do you think the Orcast deal is secure? 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.960 Look, it needs to be secure, Caroline, doesn't it. I mean, 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.880 this is such a fundamental part of our future in 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.840 terms of defending ourselves and in terms of our best 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.920 friend in America, as Dan says, America is our best friend, 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.240 Donald Trump, or otherwise we need America. And the fact 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.400 that this meeting hasn't taken place, I don't think you 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.520 can blame Elbow for that. It was beyond his control. 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.240 But we're sort of looking at or perhaps later in 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.960 the year before Elbow will actually catch up with Donald 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.920 Trump and have a chat. I mean, it does seem ridiculous. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.560 It's given you've got Orcus on the table at the moment, 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.080 and it's under a review in the US, and you've 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.360 got tariffs. You've got these really nation changing sort of 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.360 issues at stake at the moment. That does need to 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:18.880 be a meeting. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.520 Yeah, Dan pat mentions tariffs. That was going to be 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.920 another big part of this conversation. That's face to face 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.040 conversation between the pair. What happens now with that? I 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.440 mean everyone's talking about UCUS, but what happens with tariffs. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.720 Well, I think the thing with tariffs is, yeah, I mean, 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.080 we should have a talk with them and see if 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.440 we can have a different arrangement, but we should focus 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.279 on our own backyard first. I mean, the negative economic 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.479 implications of the policies that we are imposing upon ourselves 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.479 are far worse than anything the United States is doing. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:51.640 I mean, always you have to do is look at 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.880 our energy policy and policies like net zero, which are 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:59.400 causing massive increases to energy prices and smashing our industrial sector, 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.520 or the regulation of red tape that's coming out of Camber. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:03.039 And state government. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.320 So I think you know this government has said it 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.520 wants to have a productivity agenda. Well, the first thing 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.760 you do is look at your own economic policy settings 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.440 and as I say, if you can negotiate a better deal, 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.839 go for it. But let's focus on the things that 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.000 we can control. 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.039 Going back to that Orca's on certain uncertainty, there have 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.160 been calls for a backup plan. Here's National's MP Barnaby 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:26.520 Joyce earlier today. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.120 You should have a contingency plan. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.600 We like when as soon as the United States went 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.560 out and said we're reviewing. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:36.360 Orcas, Blambelle should have rung everywhere everywhere pad. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.919 Is he right? Do we need a contingency plan? Now? 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.640 Look, there seems to me sort of confidence guided or 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.159 not on the fact that ORCUS is safe within Australia. 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.880 You say the comments from South Australia's premier yesterday talking 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.680 about the fact that we need to build submarines, and 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.960 he's right. I mean, the world has been compared to 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.159 the nine ends thirties in terms of uncertainty. This could 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.680 be a precursor for the next sort of world war 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.200 of your life. You've got all these conflicts going on. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.479 We need to be able to protect ourselves and you 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.880 look at those Chinese military exercises off the coast just 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:18.360 late last year. We're not well placed to defend ourselves 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.719 and the world is going to pivot of that, we 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:25.559 have no doubt. So we need submarines, we need orcus 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.760 and we need that to be crystal clear and locked 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.680 in for decades to come. So in terms of contingencies, 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.000 I don't know whether that's the right way to go, 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.120 but we certainly need to protect our future. 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.400 Well, gentlemen, there's a hidden twist. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:44.479 In Albanizi in the Albanese government's new super tax, and it's. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:45.320 Been brought to light. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:50.520 Treasurer Jim Chalmers plan also includes a hidden death tax 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.880 of sorts, with those who inherit super from someone who's 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:59.599 died face a double taxting, where unused tax credits will lapse, 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:04.240 capital gains taxes remain in place. Dan, what do you 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.880 think of this idea? It hardly seems fair. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.720 Well, I agree, Carolina is not fair, and it shows 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.000 what happens when you're spending is out of control and 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.080 there's no plan to reign in government spending. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:19.120 And if there's no. 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.040 Plan to reign in spending, then taxes will need to 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.680 go up and debt will continue to go up, which 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.040 is just taxes. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.160 In the future. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.840 So my concern here is ultimately that labor is going 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.560 to go to the electric with much higher taxes including 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.280 I mean, really the worst part about this is the 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.880 unrealized gains component, which means you're going to get taxed 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.520 on income that you have yet to earn, and that 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.560 is one of the most concerning parts of it. So look, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.240 I think the more that this goes on and the 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.160 more the debate goes on, the worse this looks for 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:51.560 our country, and the worse it. 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.320 Looks for labor pat death taxes. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.800 I mean, for a long time, the opposition, the Coalition 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.720 has been talking about them about how it something that's 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.800 in Labour's plans. They've denied it for a long time, 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.880 but this certainly looks like they're starting to creep in here. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.240 Absolutely, and look at the second death tax. If you 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.920 like Carolina, I mean most Australians don't realize if you 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.160 inherit super generally there's going to be a seventeen percent 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:20.160 tax on at least part of that super. This is 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.960 a second death tax, and that's something that Australians aren't 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.320 aren't prepared to actually cop I don't think this is 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.440 a really big issue. And if you look at the 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.600 mechanics of this tax, you look at three million dollars 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.600 super and taxes on top of that, and that's not 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.400 going to be indexed, so in ten twenty thirty years time, 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.880 it's probably still going to be three million dollars, which 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:44.800 is not going to be a great deal of money 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.040 by that time. It's a really insidious tax, this one. 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.600 And don't forget the Prime Minister and a lot of 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.280 minister's own benefits won't get touched. That's probably one of 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.160 the most compaired parts too. Let's move on to another 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.600 story now, and disgusted parents have lashed out at a 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:05.200 prestigious Melbourne private school over a pride month guest speaker 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.720 that the school brought in. Trinity Boys Grammar School says 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.520 it invited queer Palestinian activist ba Sam. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.160 Curbage to speak to its students. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.840 On the recommendation of the taxpayer funded Victorian Pride Center. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.920 According to a parent, Curbage directed students during his speech 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.200 to look up his social media page, but when they 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:31.040 did that, they quickly found a video of him performing 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:35.559 a lewd act. Now, the Victorian Pride Center has removed 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:40.200 this speaker's profile from its website, and both the center 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.520 and the school have promised to implement better vetting processes. 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.760 But Dan, how could the school not have done any 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:52.400 basic screening before inviting a controversial speaker like this to 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:53.480 speak to children. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.200 Oh, the principal's got to be sacked. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:01.480 I mean, this is just an example of how our 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.480 education system's failing. And if you're a parent and you're 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:09.079 concerned about this, change schools stop donating to these so 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.040 called elite schools, because this is not the only example 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.960 of this kind of insidious ideology being put in front 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.560 of children. And I think it's just time to get 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.559 real about the fact that the only thing that a 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.520 lot of these private schools. You know, the very elite 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.840 ones listen to is the bottom line. So you've got 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.360 to make it hurt. And you know, I just think 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:31.319 this is so removed from basic community expectations of what 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.480 should be taught at schools. By the way, this is 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.640 happening in the context of a rapidly declining education sector, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.200 where governments are spending more and more every single year, 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.640 yet results continue to go backwards. Children are less educated 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.840 than in the past, and they're taught not only this 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.040 kind of ideology, but they're taught to be ashamed of 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.240 our country, ashamed of our history, and in doing so, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:53.400 ashamed of themselves. 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.600 So if this isn't a wake up call, I don't 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:56.160 know what is. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:57.040 Well. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.360 We're going to be looking at some of that those 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:03.720 problems within the education sector with my next guest, but Pat, 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.840 this particular sector also has a history of making some 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:12.640 extreme anti Israel statements as well. He describes himself as 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:17.120 a queer Palestinian activist. I always find that ironic given 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:22.440 what would happen were he to actually be living in Gaza. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.760 Absolutely he wouldn't be able to do this in Gaza, 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.560 And I mean that's the great hypocrisy that we're saying 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.200 in the universities especially, but also in this case, in 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:36.800 secondary schools where it's not being explained properly. The arguments 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.400 are basically that let's be pro Palestine, but at the 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.160 same time, let's blow up Israel and make it cease 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:47.319 to exist. I mean, this argument pushing for pro Palestine 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.880 is actually dishonest in the Australian context and has been 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:55.240 since October seventeen seven, twenty twenty three. And these sorts 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.440 of activists shouldn't be anywhere near a school which is 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.280 charging parents forty grand a pop to send their kids there. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.839 It's a Christian school. And the fact that this wasn't 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.600 looked at closely, that the due diligence wasn't done by 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:11.880 the school, is it characteristic That's been true of our 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:17.400 universities across the board across Australia. It's a really troubling 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:22.120 thing that this school is actually abrogating responsibility for activists 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.079 addressing their students. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.320 Yeah, really concerning and hopefully a wake up call for 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.120 schools across the country. Let's check in on the Victorian 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.800 Liberals now, and the party's state branch has been warned 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.120 that if it goes ahead with a plan to loan 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:41.240 former leader John Persuto the remaining one point five million 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.720 dollars he needs to pay Moira Deeming, it would lose 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:48.960 the support of grassroots members and trigger a mass exodus 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:49.680 of donors. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.319 Now, Dan, let's not. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:56.360 Forget that this is all about Persudo's own decision and 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:01.080 the party in backing him to smear Deeming as an Nazi. Sympathize, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.480 but simply speaking at a women's rights rally that just 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:10.120 happened to be gay crashed by neo Nazis, I. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.120 Agree, and I think the assessment is correct that there 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.400 would be a revolt of what's remaining of the grassroots 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.960 of the Liberal Party in Victoria. I on a personal level, 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.920 sympathize and feel for John Persudo. I mean, he's gone 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.440 through all kinds of difficulties and yes it's true that 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.800 he was the instigator of it. But you know, nonetheless, 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.760 on a personal level, I feel for him. But it 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.360 is not the job of the Victorian Liberal Party to 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.760 act like a bank in essentially lending money to a 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.640 member of Parliament. If people want to contribute to John's 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.440 situation privately, they're more than welcome to do that. But 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.400 I certainly don't think the Victorian Liberal Party itself should 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.600 be footing the bill for this. And as you rightly say, 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.160 it all comes back to the treatment of more redeeming 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.040 and there were many many times along this road where 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.520 the course could have been corrected, decisions taken not to 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.360 do that, and that's why we are where we. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.160 Are exactly So, I have a lot less sympathy for 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.000 John Persuto than you do down maybe that makes you 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:13.040 a better person, but pat is saving Persuto from bankruptcy 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.400 here and therefore losing his seed and triggering a by 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.720 election really worth the pain that it will cause to 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.960 the party in terms of its support from its base 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.680 and donations if there is an exodus. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.600 Look, there is a political imperative here. I mean, as 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.080 a Victorian, you know, I've suffered, along with everybody else 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:38.520 with some of the worst governments mismanaging money since twenty 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.200 fourteen for a very long time. We actually need a 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.440 decent opposition, And even though I agree with a lot 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.680 of what Dana said, there is a political imperative here. 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.240 We actually need an opposition that is not sucking the 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.360 oxygen out of the room with its own internal battles. 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:53.800 The whole time. 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.600 We actually need a decent opposition that can actually stand 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:01.320 up and offer itself as an alternative dreadful government that 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.960 we're suffering from from. So I'd like to see the 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.880 John Prestudo thing go away. Really, you just want it 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.160 fixed and to go away. Let's move on's let's talk 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.480 about good governance. Let's talk about policies, because it's been 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.400 around for I think eight eight months or longer. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:16.160 Well. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:22.000 Speaking of mismanagement of finances and Victoria, the Allen Labor 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:26.080 government is pushing to acts key budget transparency laws as 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.520 state data is projected to sor to a whopping one 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.600 hundred and ninety four billion dollars. In a bill to 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.840 be debated this week, the government will seek to block 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.960 a post election budget update from occurring next year and 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.880 limit executive oversight over the issuing of public money by 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.560 removing the need for the state governor to approve the 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.040 drawing down of funds. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:49.920 Dan how sneak he is. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:54.600 This, Well, we're now in the sticking our heads in 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.360 the sand face of the collapse of the Victorian economy. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.440 This is the last thing that is needed. There needs 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.720 to be full transparency. There are already questions over the 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.760 veracity of figures that are presented in the Victorian government's budget. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.920 Much of their spending items are either outside of the 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.120 forward estimates or are off budget entirely, so it's difficult 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.440 to get a clear picture of just. 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:15.840 How bad things are. 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.000 But make no mistake about this, this is not just 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:22.600 a Victorian issue, because if Victoria's economy goes down, the 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.840 rest of Australia will need to bail out Victoria. So 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.120 this is a big issue for every single Australian taxpayer 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.480 because ultimately it'll be Canberra, through the GST or other 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.760 grant mechanisms that will boil the Victorian economy out and 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.880 in doing so we'll drag down the rest of the country. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.600 Daniel Wild and Patrick Carlin, thank you vote so much 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:43.120 for your time. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:44.000 Well. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.640 An academic has been stood down and referred to police 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:53.239 by Australia's oldest university after tweeting Zionists should be executed. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.600 The University of Sydney's. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:17:00.680 Farhad Ali posted last week f sanctions, I want bonus 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:05.320 executed like we executed Nazis. When that post was marked 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.720 by X's violent speech, Ali doubled down. He wrote, don't 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.720 tell me wanting to see these people hanged like the 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:14.719 Nazis were post Nuremberg. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.119 Is violent. Ali is now. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:21.760 Being investigated by both the university and New South Wales police. Meanwhile, 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.760 the UNI's student protest leaders were questioned at a New 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:31.040 Southwell's parliamentary inquiry into anti Semitism. One caught out for 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:35.919 giving incorrect evidence about a billboard of Palestinian terrorists that 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:37.679 was put up on campus. 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.960 There has never been any such billboard, you know, there's 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.200 no photographic evidence. 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.800 I would say that your claim that this billboard didn't 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.840 exist is indeed fake news because I have a copy 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.200 a photo of the billboard here. 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:56.600 We never saw any of this billboard. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:01.240 The billboard featured this image of October's Sevan mastermind and 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:07.639 Hama's military chief Mohammed def among other Palestinian terrorists. Joining 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.200 me now is the New South Wales Liberal Upper House 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.240 MP Chris Rath, who exposed that student protest and led 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.480 a lot of that question during the inquiry. 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.360 Chris, thank you for joining. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.480 Me, Thanks for having me. 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.960 Well, look, it was infuriating to listen to some of 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:30.160 that evidence just to find, for example, calls for interfarda. 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:38.560 That's right, I think they're quite dismissive of antisemitism. These 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.439 student leaders, and indeed so many in particular at the 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.359 University of Sydney. They try and say that inter farda 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.880 just means shake it off or shake off, which is ridiculous. 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.640 We know that into farda is used as a term 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.520 by so many to mean an armed and aggressive uprising. 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.560 It has been a term that has inspired so many 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:03.440 around the world to enact violence against the Jewish community 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.320 and against the State of Israel. So I don't think 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:10.200 that we should be turning a blind eye when people 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.639 use terms like globalize into farda. 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.879 You also had the chance during this inquiry to question 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:22.360 Sydney University leadership over it's handling of these tweets by 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.879 that academic farhad Ali. The fact that an academic felt 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:31.719 emboldened enough to post execute Zionus in the first place, 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.440 What do you think that says about our universities. 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.000 Yeah, I think that the universities have been very slow 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:44.080 to act since October seven on combating anti Semitism. At 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.320 the University of Sydney in particular, they did very little 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:52.679 over twelve months. They didn't shut down the encampment that existed, 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.399 and that harassed and intimidated Jews. If you look at 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:01.120 the farhad Ali example, I think you know that antisemitism 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:05.000 is rife at our universities, in particular at the University 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:08.720 of Sydney. They try and hide behind terms like well, 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.600 if we say execute the Zionists, it's not actually anti Semitic. 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:17.679 They try and differentiate Zionism from the Jewish community, but 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.919 we all know that that's complete and utter nonsense. No 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:28.320 reasonable person would differentiate Zionism from antisemitism. And that you 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.200 know that link is is I think really important. 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:36.560 Yeah, it's really disingenuous, and I think you exposed how 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.520 they use that sort of coded language. I mean ninety 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.280 percent of Jews a Zionists, something like that figure. But 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:45.080 of course non Jews can be Zionus too. Many non 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.439 Jews of Zionis and believe Jews have the right to 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:52.119 sovereignty in their own homeland. What did the universities have 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:56.360 to say about their handling of the anti Semitism crisis overall? 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:01.119 I noticed that University of Sydney leadership actually said that 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:05.080 they thought they handled the dismantling of the longest running 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:09.160 pro palest in in encampment on their campus, well compared 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:10.960 to say campuses in the US. 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.679 Yeah, I think there's a lot of revisionist history there 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:20.600 from the university saying that they did a remarkable job. 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.439 But we know that anti Semitism has been on the 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:28.920 rise at our universities since October seven. Less than half 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:33.760 of all Jewish students and academics feel safe going to 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:38.720 our universities. It's a terrible situation that we're in. I 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:43.400 think the University of Sydney somewhat reluctantly acknowledged that they 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.240 didn't get everything right, and I think one of the 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.080 things that they didn't get right was allowing that encampment 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.960 to exist for as long as it did. When you 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:55.160 have an encampment that is has links to a known 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:59.720 terrorist organization his book to Rea, an encampment that proudly 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:05.800 flies the flag of Hesbola or the Taliban, or at 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:10.679 least flags that resemble those flags, when you have an 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:16.080 encampment that is deliberately intimidating and harassing Jewish students, I 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.879 think that it went on for far too long, and 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.320