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Speaker 1: On scorings Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. I'm

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Speaker 3: Cali Marcus filling in for RITA coming up tonight. Alban

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Speaker 3: EASi stood up by Trump at the G seven.

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Speaker 4: I'll bring you all the latest with my panel.

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Speaker 3: In a moment a university academic stood down after calling

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Speaker 3: for Zionists to be executed. New South Wales Liberal MP

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Speaker 3: Chris Rath joins me with the details and of course

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Speaker 3: left he's losing it, featuring this totally sane individual.

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Speaker 5: No, no, god boy good.

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Speaker 3: But let's begin with Prime Minister Anthony Alberzi being blind

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Speaker 3: sided after US President Donald Trump decided to leave the

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Speaker 3: G seven early and before they'd had a chance to meet,

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Speaker 3: without any warning to Australia. It follows weeks of will

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Speaker 3: they won't they speculation about a first face to face

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Speaker 3: meeting between the pair, where the Orchist deal was due

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Speaker 3: to be the.

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Speaker 4: Main topic of discussion.

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Speaker 3: Now there are concerns over the future of the Defense

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Speaker 3: packed as the US conducts its review into the agreement,

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Speaker 3: led by prominent Orcers skeptic Trump's under Secretary of Defense

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Speaker 3: Policy Elbridge Colby, but there was a glimmer of hope

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Speaker 3: during Trump's joint appearance with the UK Prime Minister Keth Starmer,

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Speaker 3: where he indicated the deal would proceed.

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Speaker 1: Yep, we're proceeding with that.

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Speaker 4: It's a really important deal to both of this.

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Speaker 2: I think the person that was doing a review, we

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Speaker 2: did a review when we came into government, so that

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Speaker 2: makes good sense to me. But it's a really important

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Speaker 2: We're very long time partners and allies and friends, and

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Speaker 2: we've become friends in a short period of time.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now for the latest on this is the

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Speaker 3: Deputy executive director at the Institute of Public Affairs, Daniel

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Speaker 3: Wild and News Corps senior Patrick Carline.

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Speaker 4: Thank you both of you. Now, Dan, it was.

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Speaker 3: A bit embarrassing, I think for Albanizi to be stood

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Speaker 3: up by Trump just minutes after he'd confirmed to media

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Speaker 3: that he'd secured a meeting, and reportedly with no prior

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Speaker 3: notice to Australian officials.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: I've got to say, Caroline that that's a clip you

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Speaker 6: displayed of Keir Starmer and Donald Trump didn't fill me

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Speaker 6: with a ton of confidence. They didn't seem all that

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Speaker 6: invested in ucast, but we'll see what happens there.

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Speaker 1: But look, I think you're right. The issue here is it.

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Speaker 6: Appears to be the case that Anthony Albanesi is not

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Speaker 6: really taken seriously on the international stage and is not

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Speaker 6: really respected, and that would be a concern for the

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Speaker 6: government here. There are some within labor who have a

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Speaker 6: relatively cavalier attitude towards the United States, and some of

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Speaker 6: whom are actively hostile towards the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: And whether you like Trump or not is beside.

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Speaker 6: The point is obviously our most important ally and so

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Speaker 6: I think there's probably a sense from the United States

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Speaker 6: that perhaps the current government here in Australia is not

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Speaker 6: as committed and as serious as it should be about

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Speaker 6: that defense relationship.

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Speaker 1: So I think that explains why Trump.

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Speaker 6: Has basically stood up Anthony Alberizi on this occasion.

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Speaker 3: Part Dan says he's not so confident judging by those

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Speaker 3: comments from the joint press conference, but Albanezy says that

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Speaker 3: he found those comments very positive. What do you think

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Speaker 3: do you think the Orcast deal is secure?

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Speaker 2: Look, it needs to be secure, Caroline, doesn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is such a fundamental part of our future in

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Speaker 2: terms of defending ourselves and in terms of our best

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Speaker 2: friend in America, as Dan says, America is our best friend,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, or otherwise we need America. And the fact

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Speaker 2: that this meeting hasn't taken place, I don't think you

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Speaker 2: can blame Elbow for that. It was beyond his control.

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Speaker 2: But we're sort of looking at or perhaps later in

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Speaker 2: the year before Elbow will actually catch up with Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump and have a chat. I mean, it does seem ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It's given you've got Orcus on the table at the moment,

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Speaker 2: and it's under a review in the US, and you've

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Speaker 2: got tariffs. You've got these really nation changing sort of

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Speaker 2: issues at stake at the moment. That does need to

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Speaker 2: be a meeting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan pat mentions tariffs. That was going to be

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Speaker 3: another big part of this conversation. That's face to face

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Speaker 3: conversation between the pair. What happens now with that? I

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Speaker 3: mean everyone's talking about UCUS, but what happens with tariffs.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think the thing with tariffs is, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 6: we should have a talk with them and see if

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Speaker 6: we can have a different arrangement, but we should focus

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Speaker 6: on our own backyard first. I mean, the negative economic

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Speaker 6: implications of the policies that we are imposing upon ourselves

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Speaker 6: are far worse than anything the United States is doing.

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Speaker 6: I mean, always you have to do is look at

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Speaker 6: our energy policy and policies like net zero, which are

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Speaker 6: causing massive increases to energy prices and smashing our industrial sector,

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Speaker 6: or the regulation of red tape that's coming out of Camber.

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Speaker 1: And state government.

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Speaker 6: So I think you know this government has said it

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Speaker 6: wants to have a productivity agenda. Well, the first thing

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Speaker 6: you do is look at your own economic policy settings

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Speaker 6: and as I say, if you can negotiate a better deal,

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Speaker 6: go for it. But let's focus on the things that

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Speaker 6: we can control.

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Speaker 3: Going back to that Orca's on certain uncertainty, there have

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Speaker 3: been calls for a backup plan. Here's National's MP Barnaby

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Speaker 3: Joyce earlier today.

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Speaker 1: You should have a contingency plan.

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Speaker 7: We like when as soon as the United States went

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Speaker 7: out and said we're reviewing.

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Speaker 8: Orcas, Blambelle should have rung everywhere everywhere pad.

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Speaker 4: Is he right? Do we need a contingency plan? Now?

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Speaker 2: Look, there seems to me sort of confidence guided or

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Speaker 2: not on the fact that ORCUS is safe within Australia.

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Speaker 2: You say the comments from South Australia's premier yesterday talking

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Speaker 2: about the fact that we need to build submarines, and

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Speaker 2: he's right. I mean, the world has been compared to

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Speaker 2: the nine ends thirties in terms of uncertainty. This could

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Speaker 2: be a precursor for the next sort of world war

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Speaker 2: of your life. You've got all these conflicts going on.

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Speaker 2: We need to be able to protect ourselves and you

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Speaker 2: look at those Chinese military exercises off the coast just

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Speaker 2: late last year. We're not well placed to defend ourselves

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Speaker 2: and the world is going to pivot of that, we

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Speaker 2: have no doubt. So we need submarines, we need orcus

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Speaker 2: and we need that to be crystal clear and locked

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Speaker 2: in for decades to come. So in terms of contingencies,

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether that's the right way to go,

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Speaker 2: but we certainly need to protect our future.

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Speaker 4: Well, gentlemen, there's a hidden twist.

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Speaker 3: In Albanizi in the Albanese government's new super tax, and it's.

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Speaker 4: Been brought to light.

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Speaker 3: Treasurer Jim Chalmers plan also includes a hidden death tax

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Speaker 3: of sorts, with those who inherit super from someone who's

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Speaker 3: died face a double taxting, where unused tax credits will lapse,

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Speaker 3: capital gains taxes remain in place. Dan, what do you

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Speaker 3: think of this idea? It hardly seems fair.

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Speaker 6: Well, I agree, Carolina is not fair, and it shows

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Speaker 6: what happens when you're spending is out of control and

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Speaker 6: there's no plan to reign in government spending.

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Speaker 1: And if there's no.

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Speaker 6: Plan to reign in spending, then taxes will need to

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Speaker 6: go up and debt will continue to go up, which

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Speaker 6: is just taxes.

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Speaker 1: In the future.

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Speaker 6: So my concern here is ultimately that labor is going

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Speaker 6: to go to the electric with much higher taxes including

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Speaker 6: I mean, really the worst part about this is the

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Speaker 6: unrealized gains component, which means you're going to get taxed

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Speaker 6: is one of the most concerning parts of it. So look,

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Speaker 6: I think the more that this goes on and the

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Speaker 6: more the debate goes on, the worse this looks for

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Speaker 4: Looks for labor pat death taxes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, for a long time, the opposition, the Coalition

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Speaker 3: but this certainly looks like they're starting to creep in here.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and look at the second death tax. If you

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Speaker 2: like Carolina, I mean most Australians don't realize if you

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Speaker 2: inherit super generally there's going to be a seventeen percent

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Speaker 2: a second death tax, and that's something that Australians aren't

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Speaker 2: aren't prepared to actually cop I don't think this is

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Speaker 2: a really big issue. And if you look at the

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Speaker 2: mechanics of this tax, you look at three million dollars

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Speaker 2: going to be indexed, so in ten twenty thirty years time,

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Speaker 2: it's probably still going to be three million dollars, which

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Speaker 2: by that time. It's a really insidious tax, this one.

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Speaker 3: And don't forget the Prime Minister and a lot of

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Speaker 3: minister's own benefits won't get touched. That's probably one of

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Speaker 3: the most compaired parts too. Let's move on to another

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Speaker 3: story now, and disgusted parents have lashed out at a

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Speaker 3: prestigious Melbourne private school over a pride month guest speaker

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Speaker 3: that the school brought in. Trinity Boys Grammar School says

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Speaker 3: On the recommendation of the taxpayer funded Victorian Pride Center.

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Speaker 3: According to a parent, Curbage directed students during his speech

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Speaker 3: a lewd act. Now, the Victorian Pride Center has removed

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Speaker 3: this speaker's profile from its website, and both the center

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Speaker 3: and the school have promised to implement better vetting processes.

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Speaker 3: But Dan, how could the school not have done any

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Speaker 3: basic screening before inviting a controversial speaker like this to

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Speaker 1: Oh, the principal's got to be sacked.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is just an example of how our

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Speaker 6: concerned about this, change schools stop donating to these so

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Speaker 6: of this kind of insidious ideology being put in front

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Speaker 6: real about the fact that the only thing that a

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Speaker 6: lot of these private schools. You know, the very elite

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Speaker 6: should be taught at schools. By the way, this is

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Speaker 6: happening in the context of a rapidly declining education sector,

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Speaker 6: where governments are spending more and more every single year,

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Speaker 6: yet results continue to go backwards. Children are less educated

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Speaker 6: than in the past, and they're taught not only this

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Speaker 6: our country, ashamed of our history, and in doing so,

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Speaker 6: ashamed of themselves.

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Speaker 1: So if this isn't a wake up call, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what is.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: We're going to be looking at some of that those

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Speaker 3: problems within the education sector with my next guest, but Pat,

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Speaker 3: this particular sector also has a history of making some

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Speaker 3: extreme anti Israel statements as well. He describes himself as

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Speaker 3: a queer Palestinian activist. I always find that ironic given

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Speaker 3: what would happen were he to actually be living in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely he wouldn't be able to do this in Gaza,

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Speaker 2: And I mean that's the great hypocrisy that we're saying

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Speaker 3: Forget that this is all about Persudo's own decision and

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Speaker 3: Are exactly So, I have a lot less sympathy for

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Speaker 2: Look, there is a political imperative here. I mean, as

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Speaker 1: The whole time.

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Speaker 2: John Prestudo thing go away. Really, you just want it

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of mismanagement of finances and Victoria, the Allen Labor

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Speaker 4: Dan how sneak he is.

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Speaker 6: This, Well, we're now in the sticking our heads in

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Speaker 6: This is the last thing that is needed. There needs

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Speaker 6: Much of their spending items are either outside of the

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Speaker 6: to get a clear picture of just.

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Speaker 1: How bad things are.

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Speaker 6: But make no mistake about this, this is not just

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Speaker 6: this is a big issue for every single Australian taxpayer

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Speaker 6: because ultimately it'll be Canberra, through the GST or other

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Speaker 3: Daniel Wild and Patrick Carlin, thank you vote so much

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Speaker 3: for your time.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 3: An academic has been stood down and referred to police

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Speaker 4: The University of Sydney's.

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Speaker 3: Farhad Ali posted last week f sanctions, I want bonus

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Speaker 4: Is violent. Ali is now.

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Speaker 3: Being investigated by both the university and New South Wales police. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: the UNI's student protest leaders were questioned at a New

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Speaker 3: Southwell's parliamentary inquiry into anti Semitism. One caught out for

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Speaker 6: There has never been any such billboard, you know, there's

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Speaker 10: I would say that your claim that this billboard didn't

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Speaker 10: a photo of the billboard here.

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Speaker 1: We never saw any of this billboard.

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Speaker 3: The billboard featured this image of October's Sevan mastermind and

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Speaker 3: Hama's military chief Mohammed def among other Palestinian terrorists. Joining

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Speaker 3: me now is the New South Wales Liberal Upper House

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Speaker 3: MP Chris Rath, who exposed that student protest and led

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Speaker 3: a lot of that question during the inquiry.

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Speaker 4: Chris, thank you for joining.

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Speaker 10: Me, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, it was infuriating to listen to some of

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Speaker 10: That's right, I think they're quite dismissive of antisemitism. These

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Speaker 10: just means shake it off or shake off, which is ridiculous.

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Speaker 10: We know that into farda is used as a term

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Speaker 10: It has been a term that has inspired so many

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Speaker 3: You also had the chance during this inquiry to question

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Speaker 3: that academic farhad Ali. The fact that an academic felt

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Speaker 3: What do you think that says about our universities.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that the universities have been very slow

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Speaker 10: and that harassed and intimidated Jews. If you look at

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Speaker 10: the farhad Ali example, I think you know that antisemitism

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Speaker 10: if we say execute the Zionists, it's not actually anti Semitic.

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Speaker 10: They try and differentiate Zionism from the Jewish community, but

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Speaker 10: we all know that that's complete and utter nonsense. No

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really disingenuous, and I think you exposed how

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Speaker 3: I noticed that University of Sydney leadership actually said that

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think there's a lot of revisionist history there

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Speaker 10: But we know that anti Semitism has been on the

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Speaker 10: think the University of Sydney somewhat reluctantly acknowledged that they

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Speaker 10: terrorist organization his book to Rea, an encampment that proudly

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Speaker 10: that Jewish students could use so that they didn't have

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Speaker 10: hard left activists. Well, I would suggest that the better

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Speaker 10: to allow those encampments to occur, rather than segregating our

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I noticed the university said that it wasn't just

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Speaker 3: out of time, but I really appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 1: No worries still to come.

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Speaker 3: Lefties losing it plus allegations around plan to assassinate Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Kosher Gata has the details, and now it's time for

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Speaker 3: lefties losing it. First, let's do a welfare check on

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Speaker 3: those US protesters, starting with a grown man losing it

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, yes, entirely sane behavior, Just like this

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Speaker 5: next protester who claims Hitler and the Nazis.

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Speaker 4: Got their ideas from America.

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Speaker 11: My friends, when you think about the Holocaust, how they're

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Speaker 4: I need us to remember it was not born out

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Speaker 12: Hello and his cis talking out from America, from the.

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Speaker 11: Archim crow laws, from the first life, first people's and oh,

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Speaker 1: That's where he has a playbook.

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Speaker 3: Now watches the members of a movement who preach about

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Speaker 3: kindness and inclusivity kindly call for officers to jump off

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Speaker 4: Called no sleep for Ice. So what are the Democrats doing?

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Speaker 3: Well, all this is happening, Well, they're pushing a bill

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Speaker 8: There are a lot of people who are engage in

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Speaker 8: these enforcement actions and we don't know are they federal,

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Speaker 8: are they contractors? Are the local law enforcement? And so

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Speaker 8: we're requiring that people not have to wear masks except

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Speaker 8: for some very limited exceptions, and that they'd be identifying

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Speaker 8: information insures that we know who is involved here.

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Speaker 3: Despite the violent protest footage we've all seen over the

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Speaker 3: past week, left wing media still insists they're peaceful.

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Speaker 4: Nothing to see here, folks.

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Speaker 7: A study from the Media Research Center shows that from

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Speaker 7: June eleventh to the twelfth, CNN and MSNBC personalities insisted

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Speaker 7: the anti ice demonstrations were peaceful two hundred and eleven

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Speaker 7: times they were more entire two hundred and eleven times

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Speaker 7: they were peaceful.

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Speaker 3: You'd think at this point lawmakers would be trying to

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Speaker 3: calm public hostilities, but some are doing the exact opposite,

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Speaker 3: like Democrat North Carolina state Representative Julie von Hafen, who

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Speaker 3: posted a video on social media that included this image

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Speaker 3: of the No Kings protest of a sign that read,

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Speaker 3: in difficult times, some cuts maybe necessary, with an image

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Speaker 3: of a guillotine and two decapitated heads.

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Speaker 4: Classy stuff.

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Speaker 3: She later posted a message condemning political violence, and her

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Speaker 3: ex account is now inactive. And here is Chicago Mayor

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Speaker 3: Brandon Johnson saying he will continue to resist.

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Speaker 9: You've never seen a society improve or expand under this

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Speaker 9: type of fear, and we're going to continue to resist,

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Speaker 9: and we're going to do it in many different ways,

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Speaker 9: whether it's taken to the streets or to the courts.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what he means by taking it to the streets.

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Speaker 3: And some Democrats are even calling for the police to

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Speaker 3: tip off illegal immigrants before ice rights happened. Here is

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Speaker 3: La City Councilwoman Amelda Padilla.

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Speaker 13: Can we use technology like AI technology to create a

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Speaker 13: situation where your department can identify, Hey, there's agents non

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Speaker 13: City of La in a neighboring town. Everyone go on

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Speaker 13: alert in a way where you can support our business

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Speaker 13: community and our immigrant community to know that it's time.

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Speaker 13: That's something related to the lack of due process, the

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Speaker 13: lack of warrants is about to hit our town.

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Speaker 4: You can't make this stuff up.

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Speaker 3: Even LAPD Chief Jim McDonald seemed fed up with a lunacy.

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Speaker 9: So you're asking me to warn you about an enforcement

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Speaker 9: action being taken by another agency before it happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we can't do that.

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Speaker 14: Why not?

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Speaker 1: There would be obstruction of justice. You may want to

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Speaker 1: talk to the city attorney about that.

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Speaker 3: And if you've ever wondered how these protests have become

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Speaker 3: so violent, you need to look no further than lefties

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Speaker 3: who have time and time again call for exactly that.

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Speaker 8: I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all

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Speaker 8: of the country.

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Speaker 12: Maybe there will be.

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Speaker 7: People need to start taking to the streets.

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Speaker 10: This is a dictator, you know.

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Speaker 15: There needs to be unrest in the streets for as

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Speaker 15: well as there's unrest in our lives.

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Speaker 9: Enemies of the state. Show me where it says that

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Speaker 9: protests are supposed to be polite?

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Speaker 4: How do you resist the temptation to run up and

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Speaker 4: wring her?

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Speaker 8: Next biggest terror threat in this country is white men.

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Speaker 1: Most of them radicalize up.

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Speaker 14: To the right.

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Speaker 13: I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the

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Speaker 13: White House.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Skyanese contributor Kosha Gada. Kosha Trump

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Speaker 3: has warned residents of Tehran to evacuate immediately, then left

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Speaker 3: the G seven early because of the Middle East. Defense

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Speaker 3: Secretary Pete Hegseth has confirmed the US is sending more

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Speaker 3: forces to the region. What do you think the level

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Speaker 3: of US involvement will be in this conflict now?

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Speaker 4: And do you think the US will give.

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Speaker 3: Israel the bunker buster bombs it needs to properly damage

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Speaker 3: around nuclear capabilities?

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Speaker 11: Calin great to be with you, you know, That is

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Speaker 11: the central question on everybody's mind right now, and honestly,

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Speaker 11: it is a difficult one to answer because it is

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Speaker 11: exposing a clear divide in American politics right now, and

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Speaker 11: particularly on the right of the Trump based Trumps electorate

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Speaker 11: and his constituency, and that is that by and large,

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Speaker 11: they are very supportive of Israel's sovereignty, Israel's right to

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Speaker 11: defend itself and to do what it deems is in

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Speaker 11: its national interest. I think there's full agreement there. But

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Speaker 11: where that line starts to break and the divide appears

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Speaker 11: is what the level of US involvement should be. And

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Speaker 11: Trump's core base is staunchly opposed to it. They are

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Speaker 11: war weary. The US is coming off of twenty twenty

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Speaker 11: five years of really failed or very anemic interventions in

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Speaker 11: the Middle East. Don't want to get dragged back into it.

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Speaker 11: And then the question is, if you start to give

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Speaker 11: a little bit of artillery or these types of bombs,

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Speaker 11: is that defensive or offensive? Is that taking us down

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Speaker 11: the slippery slope of greater involvement? And right now that

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Speaker 11: does not seem to be where the mood of the

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Speaker 11: country is, and I would have to think that it's

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Speaker 11: not where Trump's instincts are based on everything he's ever

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Speaker 11: said throughout his tenure, political campaign, campaigning career, and even

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Speaker 11: before that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, such a hard one for him to straddle, especially

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Speaker 3: with his base, as you point out, because if he

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Speaker 3: does nothing and he doesn't help Israel, then will Iran

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Speaker 3: be able to progress with its nuclear plans and become

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Speaker 3: a threat to the whole world, including the US and

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Speaker 3: the rest of US. You know, there have been these

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Speaker 3: stunning allegations that have come out as well from Israeli

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister Bench Yahoo, who's accused iron of actively planning

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Speaker 3: to assassinate Trump, who the Iranian regime had identified, he said,

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Speaker 3: as a threat to its nuclear program.

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Speaker 4: Take a look.

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Speaker 14: They want to kill it. Look is enemy number one.

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Speaker 14: He's a decisive leader. He never took the path that

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Speaker 14: others took to try to bargain with him in a

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Speaker 14: way that is weak, giving them, giving them basically a

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Speaker 14: pathway to a rich uranium, which means a pathway to

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Speaker 14: the bomb, patting it with billions and billions of dollars Toosha.

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Speaker 3: Is this Israel trying to get more help from Trump

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Speaker 3: in this conflict, or do you think this could actually

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Speaker 3: explain all the unanswered questions that still linger over the

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Speaker 3: two assassination plots against Trump.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's another example of where it's so tricky

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Speaker 11: or even impossible to know that for sure in the

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Speaker 11: fog of war that we're in. You know, there are

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Speaker 11: lots of reports out there, some conflicting, some true, some untrue,

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Speaker 11: some rtially true, And the reality is that we will

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Speaker 11: never know probably the true extent of how much is

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Speaker 11: true or not in there. But it is certainly conceivable.

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Speaker 11: I mean, we know that many people have tried to

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Speaker 11: and continue to try to assassinate Trump or any leader,

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Speaker 11: especially him, because he has taken a different approach for

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Speaker 11: many many issues globally and domestically, and it's a violent

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Speaker 11: world out there, so it is certainly not outside the

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Speaker 11: realm of possibility.

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Speaker 4: It is also possible.

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Speaker 11: That these things are part of the stage craft that

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Speaker 11: different leaders and nations obviously do by mixing things out

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Speaker 11: there in the public discourse as one tool in how

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Speaker 11: to influence public opinion. So it's probably somewhere in between.

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Speaker 11: But I think the overall picture remains unchanged. That we

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Speaker 11: talked about about this really fundamental central question that Trump

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Speaker 11: is grappling with He is a peace snake by nature.

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Speaker 11: He doesn't like war, he doesn't like US involvement. He's

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Speaker 11: very much focused on domestic policy. But the world is

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Speaker 11: on fire right now, and each day that goes by,

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Speaker 11: he is getting a little bit sucked into that picture.

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Speaker 11: And time will tell how this all unfolds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he has talked a big talk with Iran,

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Speaker 3: with Hamas, saying if you don't do what I say,

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Speaker 3: in Hamas's case, they will be held to pay. We

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Speaker 3: didn't quite see that from the US perspective. And with Iran,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you don't hit those that sixty day

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Speaker 3: marketers to make a deal, then then you're going to

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Speaker 3: have to face the consequences as well. Meanwhile, Israeli bombs

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Speaker 3: have hit Iranian state media studios in Tehran, causing one

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Speaker 3: of their television hosts to flee.

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Speaker 4: The set's.

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Speaker 3: Kosher NETNYA, who pointed out, well, this isn't simply any

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Speaker 3: news channel but a tool being used by the Iranian

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Speaker 3: regime to push propaganda on Iranians.

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Speaker 4: But extraordinary footage there.

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Speaker 11: Really not something you see every day for sure. And

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Speaker 11: you know, back to our theme of having the fog

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Speaker 11: of war. It's really hard to know exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 11: It is clear that Israel has waged a really exquisite

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Speaker 11: military campaign so far and just the way they've been

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Speaker 11: able to use intelligence coupled with their military might to

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Speaker 11: execute what they have in the last few days. So

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Speaker 11: for sure we could see that being true. It is also,

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Speaker 11: I'm sure possible that the Iranian government is promoting, you know,

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Speaker 11: footage like this on purpose to try and again affect

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Speaker 11: public opinion not just domestically but globally in terms of

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Speaker 11: what Israel is doing. Why are they striking media outlets

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Speaker 11: as opposed to nuclear facilities or the missile bomb and

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Speaker 11: things like that. So that's I think part of what's

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Speaker 11: in the mix here. But this it is a reminder

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Speaker 11: either way that this is a big deal. It's a

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Speaker 11: very hot conflict. The stakes are high, the risks are high,

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Speaker 11: and it is escalating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kosha, I also wanted to get your reaction to

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's decision to ditch Albanesi at the G seven.

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Speaker 4: But should we really be surprised about that?

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Speaker 11: You know, it's a fair question. It's not a good

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Speaker 11: day for Prime Minister Albin Easy as it wouldn't be

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Speaker 11: for anybody who's on the receiving end of a public rejection,

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Speaker 11: if we.

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Speaker 4: Want to call it that.

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Speaker 11: But just based on the topic we've discussed again, the

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Speaker 11: world is on fire and there are other bigger pressing

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Speaker 11: issues out there than trade relationship between the US and Australia.

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Speaker 11: So I think there's some in the Prime Minister's defense.

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Speaker 11: There is truth to that that the president's schedule is

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Speaker 11: very busy. Things happen. He also canceled a meeting with

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Speaker 11: Prime Minister Modiam India, for example, another very important country

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Speaker 11: and important relationships. So I wouldn't read too much into it,

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Speaker 11: but it does show that if this administration here is

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Speaker 11: not able to be more proactive in developing diplomatic relationships

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Speaker 11: and getting a breakthrough with the Trump administration, then sort

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Speaker 11: of spills out onto the world stage and certainly doesn't

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Speaker 11: make them look particularly strong.

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's look more closely at US politics now and

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Speaker 3: fifty seven year old of Vance Bulter, the man suspected

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Speaker 3: of shooting two state Democrat politicians in Minnesota, has been

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Speaker 3: arrested after a two day man hunt, which saw authorities

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Speaker 3: track him into rural woodlands.

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Speaker 4: What more do we know kosher.

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Speaker 3: Are there any more insights at this stage into his

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Speaker 3: motivation for these attacks?

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Speaker 11: So the story is still unfolding and developing. Different officials

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Speaker 11: have come out and said that they have reason to

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Speaker 11: believe that it certainly was politically motivated. They're being a

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Speaker 11: little bit tight lipped about what more that means underneath it. Allegedly,

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Speaker 11: reportedly there was a notebook that had been recovered from

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Speaker 11: his possessions that had a target hit list of other

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Speaker 11: political leaders that apparently he wanted to come after or

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Speaker 11: was thinking about going after.

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Speaker 4: Those names haven't.

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Speaker 11: Been released yet officially, so we don't know. There's different

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Speaker 11: reports and rumors there of who it might be, which

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Speaker 11: might shed some more light. I think one of the

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Speaker 11: most curious things about this case is that the state

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Speaker 11: senator from Minnesota that he did assassinate and her husband,

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Speaker 11: she is a Democrat, a lifelong Democrat. However, she just

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Speaker 11: came out hours before her assassination and voted as a

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Speaker 11: sole Democrat in favor of a Republican majority bill in

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Speaker 11: the state Senate. So read into that one made it's

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Speaker 11: tricky to exactly figure out what he's doing, but it

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Speaker 11: sounds like just another example of violence. It tends to

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Speaker 11: be coming from the left right now, whether you look

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Speaker 11: at the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO or other cases.

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Speaker 11: But we don't know all the details yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and also the fact that vance Bult was reported

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Speaker 3: laer tim Walt appointee to one of.

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Speaker 4: His boards as well.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, a lot more to run on this case,

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Speaker 3: no doubt. Now, Donald Trump has directed federal authorities to

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Speaker 3: ramp up deportations in blue cities, saying on his platform

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Speaker 3: Truth Social the US must expand efforts to detain and

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Speaker 3: deport illegal aliens in America's largest cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago,

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Speaker 3: and New York, where millions upon millions of illegal aliens

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Speaker 3: reside Kosher. Given we've seen the violent protests over the

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Speaker 3: past week in the US, how do you think this

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Speaker 3: move will go down there?

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Speaker 11: It is going to continue to be the firestorm that

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Speaker 11: it is. I think it's a stark reminder to everybody

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Speaker 11: how difficult this is. Again, Like the big picture is

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Speaker 11: America has something like forty plus million illegals in its country.

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Speaker 11: About ten million of them came in in the last

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Speaker 11: four years under Biden. Willfully because that was the policy

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Speaker 11: it's the only thing we can interpret from that, and

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Speaker 11: look how difficult it is to get them out once

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Speaker 11: they come in. The Public sentiment has completely shifted. Even

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Speaker 11: lifelong Democrats, moderates, center left independence are all in favor

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Speaker 11: of master deprotations. It's a shift that I haven't seen

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Speaker 11: in my lifetime in terms of how quickly that's happened.

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Speaker 11: So the public support is on Trump side, but the

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Speaker 11: logistics and the mechanics of getting it done is really

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Speaker 11: really difficult because of these protests, because of judges or

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Speaker 11: we ruling or issuing these nationwide injunctions and all the

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Speaker 11: rest of it. So this fight is not going to

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Speaker 11: be easy. But he is going street to the belly

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Speaker 11: of the beast, which is these blue stats. These Democrat

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Speaker 11: states are sanctuary cities infamously where they just defy federal

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Speaker 11: immigration law and law enforcement. And so that's where he's going,

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Speaker 11: and he's got three and a half years left to

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Speaker 11: do it.

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of one person who's definitely not in support of

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Speaker 3: these mass deportations, New York State Attorney General Letitia James,

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Speaker 3: who's facing a federal probe at the moment into allegations

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Speaker 3: she engaged in mortgage fraud. She is investigating now local

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Speaker 3: police for misconduct. The misconduct being allegedly helping the Trump

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Speaker 3: administration to crack down on illegal immigration by cooperating with

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Speaker 3: ICE and other border agencies. Kosher, what did you make

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Speaker 3: of this?

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Speaker 11: She is still clinging to that sanctuary city mantra that

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Speaker 11: guided New York a very famous sanctuary city and state,

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Speaker 11: along with California and Illinois and others. And she's still

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Speaker 11: clinging to that. She is somebody who has gone down

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Speaker 11: in infamy as the attorney general presiding over a state

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Speaker 11: that has had an increase in crime and poorly managed

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Speaker 11: budget and so many other things.

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Speaker 4: And what did she do.

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Speaker 11: She went after then candidate Trump and his business in

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Speaker 11: which there was no harm, there were no victims, the

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Speaker 11: whole thing where he allegedly overvalued the value of his

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Speaker 11: properties to the banks, even though he paid back the interest,

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Speaker 11: got that conviction which is now working its way up

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Speaker 11: the court, and I think will be dismissed. But she

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Speaker 11: did that, and then the irony is really delicious that

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Speaker 11: she's the one now being investigated for mortgage fraud. And

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Speaker 11: then on top of that, now she's doing this so

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Speaker 11: she's not going to go down without a fight. But

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Speaker 11: she is not a figure who is sympathetic, and she

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Speaker 11: certainly has not covered herself in glory.

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Speaker 4: No, she certainly has not.

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Speaker 3: Very quickly, we're almost out of time, but former Democrat

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Speaker 3: governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo is facing and ethnics

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Speaker 3: complain over he's alleged failure to disclose the more than

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Speaker 3: two point six million US dollars in stock options he

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Speaker 3: has an advanced nuclear technology before launching his New York

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Speaker 3: mayoral campaign. Kosher, how damaging of these accusations.

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Speaker 11: It doesn't help, and it's just a payline on a

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Speaker 11: series of things he's had in a fall from Greece

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Speaker 11: from at one point he was a front runner for

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Speaker 11: a Democrat leadership and this is just piling on to him.

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Speaker 11: So he's definitely down, down and out for the party.

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Speaker 4: Another person not exactly covered in glory.

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Speaker 3: Kosher Garter, always great to speak to you, Thank you

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Speaker 3: for your time.

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Speaker 4: Still to come.

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Speaker 3: Meghan Markles speaks out about her infamous twerking video.

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Speaker 5: D D.

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Speaker 4: Dun Levy has the latest.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back joining me now is veteran broadcaster d D.

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Speaker 4: Dun Levy.

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Speaker 3: Did he former ten executive producer Rob McKnight has lashed

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Speaker 3: the network's replacement for the project, ten News Plus, which

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Speaker 3: is set to air an hour earlier than its predecessor

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Speaker 3: at six pm. He said, this is going to be

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Speaker 3: a multi billion dollar disaster for Ten. Not only have

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Speaker 3: they failed to create a unique brand with this show,

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Speaker 3: but they've worked on the assumption that viewers of ten

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Speaker 3: News at five pm will continue watching news on ten.

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Speaker 3: Every bit of research and ratings I've seen over thirty

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Speaker 3: years in the industry shows news viewers will watch ten

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Speaker 3: at five pm and then flick over to nine and

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Speaker 3: seven at six pm. He also said that if ten

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Speaker 3: News Plus is to have any chance of succeeding, it

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Speaker 3: had to set itself apart from the woke sermonizing that

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Speaker 3: alienated viewers and sank its predecessor of the project.

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Speaker 4: Did he do you think his assessment is right?

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Speaker 16: Absolutely one hundred percent in Rob's very experience, and I

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Speaker 16: do appreciate his opinions, I think is correct. I think

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Speaker 16: Ten have really come up against it with this idea

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Speaker 16: because they say that they're chasing a more mature audience,

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Speaker 16: because we know that younger people are not consuming their news.

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Speaker 16: In fact, any content at all on free to wear

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Speaker 16: television these days, and that mature audience is already rusted

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Speaker 16: on over at seven and nine. You know, any given night,

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Speaker 16: if you look at the two biggest shows, the biggest

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Speaker 16: rating shows of the evening, it's going to be the

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Speaker 16: seven and nine News. So that audience that ten are

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Speaker 16: chasing are already settled in somewhere else, So they're going

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Speaker 16: to have a lot of trouble trying to get them

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Speaker 16: to watch this new offering. I think its name is

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Speaker 16: really name. It doesn't tell us anything about what we

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Speaker 16: can expect to see and like it or not, whether

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Speaker 16: it's real or perceived. Ten has people can perceive it

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Speaker 16: as being woke, and that's another thing that they're up

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Speaker 16: again against in trying to get people to watch this show.

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Speaker 3: You're right about the name ten years plus. It sounds

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Speaker 3: like a new iPhone or something.

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Speaker 7: I mean.

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Speaker 3: While Meghan Markle has broken her silence on the infamous

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Speaker 3: twerking video she posted to her Instagram last week while

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Speaker 3: in labor with daughter Lillibat, here's what she had to say.

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Speaker 15: It's also a really great reminder that with all the

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Speaker 15: noise or whatever people do, they're still a whole life,

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Speaker 15: a real, authentic, fun life.

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Speaker 12: That's happening behind the scenes.

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Speaker 15: I'm just grateful that now being back on social as well,

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Speaker 15: I have a police where you can share it on

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Speaker 15: my own terms.

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Speaker 3: Diddy, I got to say, I watched that and the

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Speaker 3: last thing that struck me was authenticity. It all seemed

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Speaker 3: to be a really sort of I don't know, choreographed,

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Speaker 3: almost moment of spontaneity that she showed correct and.

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Speaker 16: I think that's the issue here. And there was a

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Speaker 16: couple of grabs released from another podcast that Megan has

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Speaker 16: gone on, and one of the things that she said

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Speaker 16: that she would like most is for people to tell

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Speaker 16: the truth.

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Speaker 4: It tells us.

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Speaker 12: I think that she knows she's got a problem in

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Speaker 12: people's perception of her, that she's a liar. You know.

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Speaker 16: She painted this image of her on the Netflix show

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Speaker 16: that she released recently, saying that she sat in front

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Speaker 16: of the TV eating TV dinners while her brother came

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Speaker 16: out and said, that's a load of rubbish.

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Speaker 12: We weren't poor at all. You know.

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Speaker 16: She tried to tell us that she never knew who

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Speaker 16: Prince Harry was before she hooked up with him, and

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Speaker 16: that's surely a lie.

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Speaker 12: I don't believe a word of that.

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Speaker 16: I think she knows that people can see right through

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Speaker 16: all of her.

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Speaker 12: Fakery and it's coming undone. It really is.

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Speaker 3: And the Sussexes have now released never before seen footage

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Speaker 3: of Prince Harry playing with their two children to celebrate

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Speaker 3: Father's Day. Did he I thought they wanted privacy?

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Speaker 16: Yes, Once again, this is an example of them saying

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Speaker 16: one thing and doing the other. She's using her family

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Speaker 16: now as currency. She's obviously addicted now to the sugarhead

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Speaker 16: of the likes that she's getting because she's starting to

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Speaker 16: release more of this stuff on Instagram. But I also

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Speaker 16: want to point out to Meghan, that's not your father,

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Speaker 16: that's your husband. Maybe she was posting it on behalf

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Speaker 16: of the children who asked her to post that, But

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Speaker 16: how about repair the relationship with your own father, Megan,

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Speaker 16: because that would be the one I would think I

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Speaker 16: would appreciate seeing a post of her with her own dad.

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Speaker 16: We know that she doesn't have a good relationship with

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Speaker 16: her family, but it's again just I think, an example

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Speaker 16: of her being manipulative and using her family to get

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Speaker 16: what she wants, and that is the attention which she's getting.

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Speaker 12: Unfortunately, we're giving it to her now, are we?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we are.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to give her the benefit of the doubt though,

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Speaker 3: did I mean not just her own father. Think about

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Speaker 3: the relationship between Harry and his father, King Charles and

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Speaker 3: how she's played a role in helping to pull them apart.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of King Charles, well, he's shared his own

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Speaker 3: touching Father's Day message. He posted throwback photos of himself

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Speaker 3: and his sister Princess Anne playing on the swings while

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Speaker 3: their late father, Prince Philip pushed them, as well as

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Speaker 3: a photo of his wife Quinn Camilla with her late dad,

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Speaker 3: Major Bruce Shand from the April two thousand and five

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Speaker 3: wedding day. Did he I found these a really touching

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Speaker 3: tribute in contrast to perhaps what Megan.

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Speaker 16: Had to share well exactly because it seems and feels

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Speaker 16: and probably is authentic and look. I as much as

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Speaker 16: anyone would love to see this relationship between Harry and

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Speaker 16: the rest of the royal family repaired.

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Speaker 12: But I think he's damaged it beyond.

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Speaker 16: Repair with the release of his book Spare and all

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Speaker 16: of these attacks that he's having to go at them

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Speaker 16: in the press, and he's saying that still this issue

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Speaker 16: of the security if he were.

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Speaker 12: To go back to London.

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Speaker 16: You know, they're so in fear of their lives and

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Speaker 16: because the Royal family won't provide them with the security

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Speaker 16: that they want, that that's never going to happen. And

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Speaker 16: yet we go back again to what Meghan has done

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Speaker 16: in releasing all those pictures of the children. If they

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Speaker 16: really were so concerned about the security of their family,

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Speaker 16: why would she be releasing pictures of the children's faces

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Speaker 16: the way she's doing that.

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Speaker 3: I thought she was going for a phase of covering

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Speaker 3: them up. You make a really good point. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: make sense accept as a sort of crisis management desperate

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Speaker 3: crisis management tool.

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Speaker 4: Dd Dunleyvy. Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 12: Thanks Carolyn, and that's it for me.

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Speaker 4: Up next is Newsnight. Good Night,