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Speaker 2: I've just found out apparently when you order fish and
Speaker 2: chips at seafood places in Australia, it's actually.
Speaker 1: Shark, almost commonly shark.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm sure you can order shark at a fish
Speaker 2: and chip shop.
Speaker 4: Like, there's no denying that.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that if I order a fish cocktail, you
Speaker 2: are both telling me that it is probably shark.
Speaker 1: That's what I've heard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've heard it.
Speaker 2: But like gay Jay's like adamant that it is that
Speaker 2: fish cocktails are shark. Do people know this? Do you
Speaker 2: know that? Like, do people know that when they're ordering this?
Speaker 1: So I've just looked it up on chat GBT. Everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna hate that.
Speaker 5: So chat Jabt says in Australia, if you order flake
Speaker 5: from a fish and chip shop, So, first of all,
Speaker 5: I've never seen.
Speaker 4: Flakes, but I think.
Speaker 1: So you're usually eating shark.
Speaker 5: Traditionally, flake refers to species like gummy shark and school shark.
Speaker 5: These sharks are small, mild tasting, boneless and have been
Speaker 5: a fish and chip a fish and chip staple for decades. However,
Speaker 5: if you order fish and chips without specifying flake, you
Speaker 5: might get shark, barramundy, hockey, blue grenadier, flathead, whiting or
Speaker 5: other local fish depending on the shop.
Speaker 1: So it's not true that.
Speaker 5: Most fish and chips in Australia are shark, but it
Speaker 5: is true that one of the most iconic fish and
Speaker 5: chip options is shark.
Speaker 4: Iconic I think that's chatchbt just speaking of one.
Speaker 1: In fact, a lot of Australians grew up eating shark.
Speaker 4: Why would it be iconic?
Speaker 5: It just says, fun fact a lot of Australians grew
Speaker 5: up eating shark without realizing it.
Speaker 6: You can kind of tell with the consistency and like
Speaker 6: I almost want to say it's called flake because it's
Speaker 6: like almost like flaky, you know that you know.
Speaker 1: You eat it's got like a grass color on it,
Speaker 1: but it.
Speaker 4: Kind of just like flakes offt do you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 6: Like that's what the layering of the layering of like
Speaker 6: the meat is like that I'm making that up.
Speaker 4: But that's what I feel like, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 4: i'd say the majority of it is like I also
Speaker 4: wondering to let me just look up what a flake
Speaker 4: looks like?
Speaker 2: So flake, fish and chip, because my thing is, is
Speaker 2: this a case of potato scullletted potato cake?
Speaker 4: What's the potato cake?
Speaker 1: That's what they call it.
Speaker 2: What they call it in Melbourne, I think maybe at
Speaker 2: late as well they call it potato cakes, whereas we
Speaker 2: call it potato scallops.
Speaker 6: Okay, this is exactly what I'm thinking of this fish here.
Speaker 6: I've looked at flake. It looks like the fish on
Speaker 6: his flakes of itself. That's the type of fish I'm
Speaker 6: thinking of that. I'm like, yeah, that's the shark that
Speaker 6: I'll leave the fish.
Speaker 4: And chip shop.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But okay, so now we're getting into muddy territory because
Speaker 2: the way you two came in bulling a China shop. Yes,
Speaker 2: all fish in fish and chip shops in Australia is shark.
Speaker 2: Well no, that's not the case at all. If you
Speaker 2: order the specific fish that is flaky and probably called flake.
Speaker 2: I just don't think we have the standards I mean, look,
Speaker 2: we spoke about the seafood the other day that no
Speaker 2: one's gonna be like, our fish is shark, and it
Speaker 2: not be somewhere.
Speaker 6: Fish because they'll have the name of the fish. But
Speaker 6: if it's just if they just say fish and chips,
Speaker 6: it could shark.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't think that's right.
Speaker 5: Well, maybe next time you go to fish and chip shop,
Speaker 5: everyone and you're ordering it, and you order fish and chip,
Speaker 5: ask what is this kind of fish?
Speaker 4: Actually? Does anyone who listens work in a fish and
Speaker 4: chip shop?
Speaker 2: Take c I'm jumping in scrollers right now. I'm going
Speaker 2: to say, anyone work in a fish and chip shop
Speaker 2: and we can call you right this second. Yeah, in
Speaker 2: the Instagram. I just found some research though, So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna write this in the in the chart and then
Speaker 2: hopefully we get someone.
Speaker 4: This is the problem.
Speaker 2: Shark on the menu at fish and chip shops despite
Speaker 2: being deemed threatened species. So one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 2: flake samples were taken from takeaway outlets across South Australia.
Speaker 2: That's what makes me think that like flake is on
Speaker 2: the menu in South Australia. In fact, I'm going to
Speaker 2: update scrollers and say bonus points if you live in
Speaker 2: South Australia.
Speaker 4: Two people have said yes already, Okay, can you message
Speaker 4: one of them? Yeah, I'm messaging.
Speaker 1: I'll off this research that we're going to call someone.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm on the case because this said research
Speaker 2: by the University of Adelaide lized flake filet sold by
Speaker 2: more than one hundred outlets across Adelaide and regional South Australia,
Speaker 2: identified barely a quarter as the non endangered gummy shark. Instead,
Speaker 2: four threatened species were identified. So again, Google girl, gay
Speaker 2: j Sorry, oh my god, sorry, it's just like in
Speaker 2: my blood.
Speaker 4: To say that.
Speaker 2: But four threatened species were identified. So five minutes ago
Speaker 2: when you went no, I don't think the threatened species
Speaker 2: are getting sold. Well, the research says otherwise, including the
Speaker 2: short fin maco and smooth hammerhead. Yeah, the hamaheads there
Speaker 2: go and over six months feoth finned though, is that endangered?
Speaker 4: Oh you just said short.
Speaker 2: Smooth hamm ahead, Yeah, got the number here, Hello, my darling, good,
Speaker 2: how are you?
Speaker 4: This is so random? I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: You run the part, you run the broadcast, and you're
Speaker 2: happy to be on the podcast and answer some question
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 4: Of course, okay, perfect, it's Hannah, isn't it?
Speaker 7: Sure is?
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: So we are having a bit of a debate here
Speaker 2: because gay Jay and Brittany have just brought to my
Speaker 2: attention that in fish and chip shops in Australia, when
Speaker 2: you order fish and chips, if you just go up
Speaker 2: to the counter and say hello, can I get fish
Speaker 2: and chips, the fish is actually shark. And we're doing
Speaker 2: some research to see whether that is the truth or not.
Speaker 2: Do you know the answer?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's we have variations of it. We have flathead,
Speaker 7: but our actual flake is shark.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: So what is the difference though, Like if I come
Speaker 2: in and go, hey, can I just get fish cocktails?
Speaker 2: Like is that flake? Or do I have to specifically
Speaker 2: say hey can I have the flake? And then I'll
Speaker 2: get the shark?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you'll have to specify. So our flat head is
Speaker 7: crumbed and our flake is battered?
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: And if someone just says can I have fish and chips?
Speaker 5: Do they get given the shark?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Ye oh.
Speaker 4: Sorry I said that, God, and you said I was
Speaker 4: wrong for saying that. Wow.
Speaker 2: You So if someone just comes in and says, hey,
Speaker 2: can I get fish and chips?
Speaker 4: They'll be getting shark. See.
Speaker 2: My thing is, Hannah, I don't think Australians know that.
Speaker 2: Do you think Australians know that?
Speaker 4: I don't really No, No, I don't think anybody knows that.
Speaker 2: Well to people, well yeah, well Brittany and gay Jay
Speaker 2: both knew that that was the case, and I am
Speaker 2: shocked by it.
Speaker 4: So we're doing the research.
Speaker 2: We're going to call a couple more people and corroborate
Speaker 2: the stories and make sure that everybody's.
Speaker 4: Telling the truth. But thank you so much for coming
Speaker 4: on the pod and clearing that up for us.
Speaker 1: Hannah, Love you, Hannah, love you.
Speaker 4: Thanks for being a scroller, and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4: Darl Bye bye. I have a good day.
Speaker 1: Okay, next person.
Speaker 2: Go get on it. Okay. So this is this is
Speaker 2: what I'm saying Australia.
Speaker 4: I see, I don't know. I don't think Australian knows Monique. Oh,
Speaker 4: this is Monique gorgeous. You'll have to when you edit this, by.
Speaker 1: The way, you got to do this thing.
Speaker 4: Oh no, we're on anyway. Hello.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was just about to give you my name
Speaker 2: and email and address and everything. Old and get through security.
Speaker 2: You've got high security on your phone.
Speaker 4: Love Monique. Yes, okay, this is Monique. Yes.
Speaker 2: Sorry, we're calling a few different people, so I was
Speaker 2: just double checking Monique. Are you happy to be on
Speaker 2: the podcast before we proceed?
Speaker 7: I am.
Speaker 4: I'm a classroom teacher and the bell is about to go.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we'll be as quick as possible. So you
Speaker 2: have worked in a fish and chip shop before? Okay,
Speaker 2: so the deal is Brittany and Gaje have just told
Speaker 2: me that when you order fish and chips in Australia
Speaker 2: you are actually getting shark.
Speaker 4: Is that the truth? Correct?
Speaker 1: So our standard fish is actually hake, but we do
Speaker 1: so well we used to sell sharks.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, But if I come in and say, hey,
Speaker 2: can I just get fish and chips?
Speaker 4: Are you serving me shark? Or do I have to
Speaker 4: specifically ask for the flake?
Speaker 6: Have to specifically ask?
Speaker 3: But normally our standard fish is hake or flake?
Speaker 2: Okay, but no have to ask for shark. What's the
Speaker 2: difference between hake and flake?
Speaker 5: Sorry?
Speaker 7: Flake is think it is a shark, but hake is
Speaker 7: standard cheapest fish on the market.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, great, great, great.
Speaker 1: All right, well maybe it depends on the fish and.
Speaker 4: Okay, fabulous all right, we're getting to the bottom of this.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I'll let you go because the bell is about to ring.
Speaker 2: But thank you Manique for giving us an answer.
Speaker 4: There, good day, bye bye.
Speaker 2: Sorry had to let her go, but that's good because yes,
Speaker 2: back now here we go.
Speaker 4: You're going I told you and you said I was wrong.
Speaker 4: As this is why we do.
Speaker 2: We conduct more than one phone call and we will
Speaker 2: hopefully get a third one.
Speaker 1: It really comes down to the fish and chip shop.
Speaker 2: Yes, because I think that the this has told us
Speaker 2: a lesson that we should be asking more questions.
Speaker 4: At a fish and chip shop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should be doing more research at the fish
Speaker 2: and chip shop because I think if Australians knew or
Speaker 2: even thought or it was considered that they were eating shark,
Speaker 2: that in my brain I go, like, I meant.
Speaker 6: To ask, how like if people know we need a
Speaker 6: yes or no to see if people know that they're
Speaker 6: getting shark.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll do it after Yeah in a poll.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are we calling one more person?
Speaker 4: Someone says I could pretend that I do chips.
Speaker 2: No, but I think that's I think I think we
Speaker 2: need a third one to like verify. But I'm very
Speaker 2: happy with the research because what's not what's happened is is, yes,
Speaker 2: we know now that there is shark. Now the first people,
Speaker 2: the first one was because that's the other thing is
Speaker 2: I go, wouldn't shark be more expensive than a fish?
Speaker 2: And she was saying that hake is that what she
Speaker 2: was calling it, Monique, hake is like the cheapest fish
Speaker 2: on the market. Like, that's what I would assume is
Speaker 2: in a fish cocktail if I'm ordering fish cop it's
Speaker 2: just cheap, the cheapest fish, like, and I would assume
Speaker 2: shark might be more expensive because I'm thinking how many
Speaker 2: sharks are there compared to how many fish? Surely there's
Speaker 2: heaps more fish in the ocean than sharks. Don't you
Speaker 2: think I'm going to go google?
Speaker 4: Anyone googled? You googles?
Speaker 6: Oh my god, has anyone DMed you numbers? Because I
Speaker 6: haven't got no anymore yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm triple checking. No, it's the jury is
Speaker 4: still out.
Speaker 2: I forgot to ask where they were from, because I
Speaker 2: also think it's one of those things where South Australia
Speaker 2: it's all shark, you know what I mean? And then
Speaker 2: New South Wales no you have to request flake. I
Speaker 2: think it's one of those things where it might just
Speaker 2: be state to state, it's a bit different. And as
Speaker 2: we said, that new seafood regulations that we spoke about
Speaker 2: that was New Southwest specific, so like different places might
Speaker 2: have different customs on how they do things. But I
Speaker 2: think in a sense we're both right.
Speaker 6: Because you said no shark is You're no, there's no
Speaker 6: way there's even shark, and I was like, they definitely are.
Speaker 2: It's not as fish and chips, like, not as a
Speaker 2: fish cocktail.
Speaker 4: If I go in and say fish cock.
Speaker 5: I reckon, you'd be surprised about how often that would
Speaker 5: be shark When you say, can I have a fish cocktail?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank god I don't eat fish, so I
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that. But I'm worried for Australia.
Speaker 2: I don't think Australia realizes that when they're ordering fish cocktails,
Speaker 2: they're ordering shark.
Speaker 4: Well, a shark should be on shark is a fish?
Speaker 4: Oh a shark? That's like fucking that's not right. That's
Speaker 4: like saying a pigeon is chicken. It's all taste the same,
Speaker 4: like a bird.
Speaker 6: It's a type of bird, just like a shark's different
Speaker 6: type of fish, but you wouldn't need a pigeon.
Speaker 4: You don't know that, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 4: but like we eat a magpie?
Speaker 2: If you went in a magpie, actually you can no
Speaker 2: listen because this is the thing.
Speaker 4: If I went in to the kebab shop and I said.
Speaker 2: Hello, I'll get a chicken hellal snack pack place chicken tailor,
Speaker 2: and they.
Speaker 4: Serve me magpie, would that not be alarming? We would?
Speaker 4: You go, what the fuck? It would be illegal? So
Speaker 4: why do we allow fish and chip shops to go?
Speaker 6: Yeah, because obviously it's not illegal to serve shark, like here.
Speaker 4: They're allowed to do it, So it's illegal to serve magpie. Yes,
Speaker 4: this is what's confusing to me.
Speaker 6: There's like there's like rules and regulations and standards for
Speaker 6: animals we can kill and need.
Speaker 5: I think they yeah, maybe don't call it shark because
Speaker 5: that seems like scary or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's my whole point. You're they're blind.
Speaker 2: They weren't doing it, and we said, yes, shark could
Speaker 2: be an option. You came in guns blazing, going fish
Speaker 2: cocktails a shark. As we've done the research, we have
Speaker 2: realized that some places that is the general consensus that
Speaker 2: if you just order fish and chips, you get in Shark.
Speaker 2: But as we just learned from Monique, it's the opposite
Speaker 2: as well, which is why I was saying in the beginning,
Speaker 2: as you would have to specify, let's get Pauling Hanson
Speaker 2: on she had of his chip shop, and she can
Speaker 2: give us the please explained, definitive answer.
Speaker 4: Fuck.
Speaker 2: I don't care enough about the topic to have her
Speaker 2: anywhere near me. Dylan anyway, I don't know if we
Speaker 2: got to the bottom of this or not, but I
Speaker 2: can't be fucked.
Speaker 3: This concludes this special High Scrollers investigation. See your next
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