WEBVTT - #1922 How Much Do We Really Know? - Dr. Cam McDonald 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.120 I get a team, I'll come to another instorming the 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:04.440 you project. Doctor Cam's back. I don't want to say 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.520 he's our favorite because all of the others will get 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.960 upset and hurt because they're all precious little tights. But 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.040 he's right near the top of the list. But before 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.000 we go to him, who looks like he's sitting in 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:20.079 some fucking intergalactic space station, I might say, we'll go 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:22.400 to the girl over there there that just smashed my 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.439 emotions not more than ninety seconds ago and essentially told 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.880 me I'm a piece of shit, so I wouldn't do 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.199 the same to you. But well, now he does look 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:34.320 into galactic Hi. 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.800 Tiff I just want to tell team typ out there 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:41.400 listening that probably the first time I've ever heard you're 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.280 not be self deprecating. And I jumped on it, and 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.440 then I was like, oh, that's he's never not nasty 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.800 to himself, and now you've just pummeled him for it, 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:51.760 and I felt immediately felt bad. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.920 Do you know what that is? That's that's God convicting you, 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:05.640 so you probably need to repent. And oh, dear hi, 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:06.880 doctor Cam, how are. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:11.360 You, hello, Craig, Hello Tiffany, I'm wonderfully. Well, thanks, do. 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.960 You have any I know, we opened the spirituality door 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.399 a little bit. We just fucking you just opened it, 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.840 put your foot in, your toe in, and we just 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:23.640 had a bit of a do you ever have you 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.760 ever been in your life? Particularly maybe you've told me 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.840 this and I can't remember. I'm sixty one. That's my excuse. 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.720 Have you ever been religious at all? I mean in 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.840 the organized religion sense. No, I know what you mean. 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:38.640 I'm just thinking. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.080 You know, we went to Sunday school, and I went 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.360 to a school where I was sitting in a chapel 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:48.240 three times a week, so I'm unversed with the verses, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.640 if that makes sense. I never did. I never got 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:52.680 it was probably never off my own volition that I 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:59.480 went right into it. I've probably been exploring more spirituality 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.120 rather than relig and I guess is where I sit now, 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:08.720 it's all what I find is well, particularly Christianity, is 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:15.600 it's be really good to people and deferential to like 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.160 that you're not the only thing on this planet. I 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.160 think that's a really I think they're really really good 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:24.960 principles and so, and I feel like that weaves its 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.160 way through a lot of spirituality. As well, just without 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.240 the without the book, I. 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:33.760 Guess I feel the same. I've done a bit of 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.040 reading in that particular text, that theological text to which 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.720 you refer, and I always say to people, probably not 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.000 so much the Old Testament, shout out to our Jewish friends, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.040 but in terms of living day to day in twenty 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:52.120 twenty five. And also there's a lot of wisdom and 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.959 insight in the Old Testament too, of course, but probably 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.040 more specific to if you just read the New Testament, 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.400 and some of them like verbs and psalms, and some 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.520 of the like the first five books of the Old Testament, 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.399 which is Genesis, Exodust, Levitica's numbers, Deuteronomy which they called 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:13.000 the Pentachua, right, and also that is I think is 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.400 the first five books that Torah in Judaism, cam do 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:21.919 you know anyway, I'm not any anyway anyway like that. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.600 There's some like really heavy shit, right, I'm sure God 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:30.520 wouldn't call it that, But in the New Testament writing. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:31.760 This is going to be some heavy ship for the. 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:39.200 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Imagine if Genesis started. Look, 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.320 this is going to be pretty fucking heavy. So batten 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.520 down the hatches, get ready, you know, instead of in 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.080 the beginning, yeah, he said, look, before we get to that, 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:49.760 I just want to give you a heads up on 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.440 what's coming so you can emotionally and mentally prepare yourself. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:57.520 Maybe I should write that, was I going to say? Yeah, 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.520 But like the New Testament, there's just a lot of 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.960 you know, kind of hey, be a good human, don't 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.040 be a prick, you know, think about others, have a 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.840 purpose bigger than yourself, and you know all that kind 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:13.160 of other awareness stuff that we talk about in psychology, 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.000 and you know, just like there's got to just a 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.840 lot of good generic messages that aren't the worst things 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:20.400 to live by. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:25.120 Are the great things to live by? Absolutely? Yes, the no, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.760 I agree, I agree, And probably where the I get 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:39.120 fascinated with the idea of choice and fate and coincidences, 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:45.119 universal happenings, whatever it may be. But I I guess 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:49.640 most people around the world considerate that there is something 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.160 greater than themselves. There's you know, the minority are atheists, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.680 So the majority of us all believe that there's something above, 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.080 something around us, whatever they may be. And I really 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:04.560 like the idea then that, well, if there's something that's 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:08.200 greater than us, then there's a above ourselves as a 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.719 greater purpose, as a purpose that we have on this planet. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.560 And I find that that where I found that very 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.520 very interesting in the work that we're doing is if 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.479 there is a purpose why you're here, let's say a 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.760 divinity to that, and you were here to experience a 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.640 particular thing and to impact things in a particular way, 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.800 which is something that you could draw from all of that, 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.680 then would you go about making a body and a 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:41.359 brain that allows you to fulfill that purpose? All of 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.320 these things are partly created. And this is where I 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.919 find it fascinating with biology. You know, Eddie Hall was 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.039 definitely here to lift heavy stuff, you know, whereas the 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.039 person who won the high jump is definitely not. And 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:01.520 that's intention, that purpose and when people are in their flow, 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.280 and you know, I guess we spoke about this a 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:04.960 little bit last time with purpose as well, but I 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.039 find there's a fact that that's a lot of the 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.160 science that we've been looking at as well is how 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:13.080 can you depict purpose from biology? And there's a really 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.080 interesting connection with higher levels to that as well. 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.800 Could I take it a further step with Eddie Hall, 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:23.520 By the way, everyone Eddie Hall is he competes in 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:28.080 the World's Strongest Man events and is renowned and regarded 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.560 as one of the greatest of all time. And as 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.960 doctor Cam said, just a monster, a monster of a 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.560 man and a monstrously strong man. But maybe maybe we 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.400 could go maybe his purpose wasn't to lift heavy things. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.640 Maybe his gift is to lift heavy things. And in 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.080 that profile and that brand and that recognition and that audience, 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.599 that gives him a platform to share his message or 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.120 his purpose or his reason. I know what I mean. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.000 Maybe that's just that maybe the conduit between him and 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:01.160 humanity and the message. I don't know. I'm just saying, like, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:05.680 I don't think I was born to talk, but I 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.600 think maybe because I have, I better be careful because 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.640 Tiff will shoot me down. I'm just fucking with you. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:16.560 Because I have an ability to talk and communicate. That's 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:20.600 the tool that I have to use to maybe live 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.200 my purpose, whatever that is. 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:27.760 Yes, and that's where I you know, if there was, 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.200 but there's for me, there's a belief that there is 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.840 a purpose to the how, not just to the to 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:34.120 the what. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:35.200 Yeah. 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.920 Yes, and that's where Eddie Hall's how is. He was 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.760 born with this body that could just get really really strong, 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.040 and no matter how much training I did, my body, 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.680 my bone structure wouldn't be able to tolerate that kind 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:51.160 of weight and I would break very quickly. So the yeah, 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:56.320 it's interesting, that is where I'm fascinated. And then it's 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.560 interesting you're actually saying this. I was literally yesterday's as 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.920 part of my homework from obviously the experience that I 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.800 shared with you last time is what do I actually 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:11.320 believe about these things? And probably what are my beliefs 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.080 of the way things work. And I've had a fair 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:17.720 bit of information that's been provided to me, books and 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.760 people and all that sort of stuff that I agree 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:25.440 with in many cases. The but what I've found myself 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:31.280 really fascinated by was this idea of like in some 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:35.320 belief systems as rituality, there's this universe and then there's 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:40.840 an infinite amount of multiverses and then within that container 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:47.599 that infinite container. Outside of that container, there's infinite multiverses 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.040 like multi multi meta multiverses or whatever it may be, 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.199 and then outside that is nothingness and everythingness or whatever. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.640 That's one way of how people can reflect on this information, 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.640 and then at that level time doesn't exist. Because time's 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:08.800 just another dimension, and so everything's happening that has ever 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:13.800 happened and will ever happen right now. So what's the point? 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.120 You know what I mean? It really makes it, But 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.199 then you've got to and I was trying to unpick that. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.720 It's like, because there's a very real reality of being 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:26.520 on the planet and having this experience, and what do 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.080 we do with this experience and what are all of 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.960 the markers that we can measure to say that we're 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:36.880 on track. It's the physiology of love and flow and happiness, 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.679 and we're spoken about this previously too. That's this game 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.760 in this reality right now. And what I've been thinking 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.080 about as well is that the closer you get to 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:56.959 your physiological best, the least disrupted you are in connecting 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.679 with your higher realms. That's what I've been because as 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.560 people sort of get into bad behaviors and they go 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:06.000 into significant stress, there's just an incredible amount of focus 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.640 on their physical self and I've just got to survive. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:16.560 But as people become more healthy, more well, more less 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.280 limited in their physicality, this is when they start creating 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:27.440 greater access to greater information or to their higher cognitive 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.280 centers and then I guess the spirituality and higher consciousness, 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.719 whatever that may be. So it's as I've been sort 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.160 of unpacking these things, you know, what are we actually 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.600 here for? And my thoughts are at this point, So 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.040 I definitely didn't think we've been talking about this today. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:48.200 The more aligned you are with purpose, with how with 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.360 what you're doing with the relationships, like, the more connected 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.240 you are, the more access you have to everything in existence. 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.360 And so that's the game that we're playing. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.920 Hmmm. You know, he's the interesting I mean, there are 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.040 so many interesting things about as you were saying that 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.319 about the better our body is, the more access we've 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.840 got this and that. On a level, and I don't 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.760 disagree with you, but on a level, I'm like, that 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.600 makes sense. But then I think about back, so I think, 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.360 you know, back in the day, I was quite churchy, 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.480 but I went to a really weird church. Right, let's 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.240 call it a cult. Okay, let's call it that. And 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.800 my pastor was this old dude who was not particularly 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:32.120 well had emphasema was old, was well. He was the 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:36.040 closest thing that I ever met who was essentially a 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.160 hotline to God. Yes, now he was old week for 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.280 feeble he could he could, you know, explain the Bible 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.840 to you. He knew every verse in the Bible, every 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.679 you know, all the Greek, all the the Latin, all 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.880 the bloody whatever it was originally written in and and 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:59.280 but quite the opposite of what you're describing, right, So 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:04.040 I I also think there's you know, like one of 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.600 the challenges for us. And by the way, everybody, if 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.120 you're not interested in this sea tomorrow, it's been great 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.040 new project. It's Tiff and Harps and doctor Cam because 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.360 some people right now like fuck and hell but and 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.760 I get it. But if it's for you, stick around. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:22.120 But here's my thing, right, We're really like, you're one 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:23.880 of the smartest people I know, and I said that 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.559 to you before, and we love you being on the show, 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.000 and I respect you, and I'm not a dummy. I'm 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:32.080 not a genius, tips not a dummy. But we don't 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.559 know fucking anything compared with what there is to know. Yes, 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.360 Like all we're doing is theorizing about multi universes and 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.679 there well all of that, and you're right, but it's 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:49.160 then we're trying to analyze stuff which really is illogical 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:54.520 in many ways, and we're looking at a spiritual construct 0:12:54.640 --> 0:13:02.120 or idea through a quite often an academic lens or 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.120 a logical Oh, that doesn't make any sense. Like when 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.960 we say that doesn't make sense, we're basically saying to me, 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.200 I don't understand that, and within the framework of what 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.920 I call possible or logical or reasonable, it doesn't fit 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:19.640 in there. Therefore that's bullshit, or therefore that's illogical, and 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.840 it's this is I reckon. This is the ever present challenge. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:29.120 Is we're all such cognitive creatures. We're all such reasonable, sociological, psychological, 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.400 practical creatures, not all of us all the time. But 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:36.440 trying to understand something that's none of that is a challenge, right. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.360 It's like trying to understand the mind using the mind 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:43.360 as the fucking tool to analyze the mind, but times infinity. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.040 Yeah, and the idea of belief is so separate to 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.120 the cognitive construct anyway, you know. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:54.040 That's the And it's like I've said many times, I'll 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.520 shut up after this, But it's like some like I 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.800 know that I can pick up my phone and I 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.839 can call Tiff and she's going to answer the phone. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.600 I don't know how the fuck that works. If somebody 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.720 said to me, Craig explain in some detail what's going on. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.160 I couldn't explain in any detail how that works, right, 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.640 But I don't need to understand how it works to 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.600 be able to tap into it. Yeah, I can benefit 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.400 from this thing that I have, which to me is 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:29.640 essentially analogous to mystical and magical. Like to me because 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.320 I don't know, and I just push these buttons and 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.040 Tiff goes, what do you want? I'm like, I've got 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.120 no idea how that happens, but I can use that 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.040 every day. And that's my kind of analogy with the 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.880 mystical and not so much magical but perhaps spiritual. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.360 You know, it's so interesting you talk about that in 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.880 that way. It's like, well, this is the practical reality 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.600 of it. Luck, just get on and play the game, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.600 don't be an asshole to people, and live a life 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.360 that makes you happy. And I'll actually speak to a 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.360 really good friend of mine, and I know that you've 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:07.400 been predicted as a connector in previous podcasts. She's a 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.400 connector as well, and she was saying exactly, I think 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.600 it's just like it's just practical, get on with it. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.680 It's meant to be fun. I'm like, no, but I've 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.600 got to I got to understand the wise, you know, 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:21.400 like this is the search that it has because I 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.120 need that whatever that sits behind that. But I find 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.320 that very interesting. Getting back to your point about the 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:32.280 person with the gift who was incredibly connected is I 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.280 feel like from my experience and meeting, like I've met 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:41.800 the two spiritual leaders of a particular country and they 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:46.280 are just on another planet as far as their insights 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:53.200 and what they can say, and absolutely incredible what they 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.480 could deduce, what they're bringing down, how they simplify things 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.840 and the easiest way possible. But it is so profound, 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.720 and that just penetrates you further than the longer you 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.400 get to reflect on it. It's absolutely fascinating. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:10.240 Yeah, I think that's where the profundity lives. Like where 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.240 the profound like the simpler. It is like when people 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.240 tell you amazing shit in simple ways, I'm like, I 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.400 want to be more like you. One, thank you for 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.760 sharing that with me. And two, fuck, that would have 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.280 taken me ten minutes and everyone would have been confused, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.160 and it took you ten seconds. And I'm enlightened. Like 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:28.880 that's a gift. 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.040 That's a gift exactly. And this is one of the 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.880 house because just like Eddie Hall's got a gift, like, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.160 there is no way that I could lift five hundred 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.040 kilograms off the ground a few times. It's not a chance. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.840 Like some people have this gift that's they're just way 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:47.480 more tapped in. And it was interesting. I was speaking 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:48.960 to one of them. I go, how did you know 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:53.640 that you were going to be like this type of healer? Yeah, 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.200 and he's because he went around and did a whole 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.240 bunch of stuff to people in a very strange fashion 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.920 that was absolutely mind blowing. And he said it was 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.439 from young I have the eyes of a healer, Like 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.199 people could see my eyes, they recognized my eyes, like 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.400 this was something that I was born into. It wasn't 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.560 something that I learned. It was something that I got 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.760 identified and then I was able to use that as well. 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.120 And so just like people have physical gifts, I'd see 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.040 your priest as a person that's got that gift, and 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.760 I'd be fascinated. Is if he took care of himself, 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:30.280 what would happen? Yeah, And just like I could if 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.240 I was sick and almost dying of COVID, I could 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.800 talk about personalized health. That's just it's an easy thing 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.000 that I could do because that's just where my love 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.120 and my passion is. But I just I'm better at 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.640 it when I'm healthy again. So I. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:53.800 Sorry, I was just going to say. I remember one 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.280 day being at church. I was in my early twenties, 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.520 and I was always a bit cheeky and I could 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:04.640 always communicate quite well and all of that, but insecure, 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.800 you know, all the bullshit, all the emotional, psychological, all 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.800 the issues inskewe a self doubt, wanted everyone to love me, 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:16.080 you know, fucking body, all of it, right, But what 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:17.840 I could do is if somebody had a bit of 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.000 a go at me, I would come back with like 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.320 heavy artillery, verbal artillery, and I would decimate them, and 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.959 my rational well fuck them they started. It's like, well, 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.400 if you're going to start, I'm going to finish it right. 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.760 And I could do that. And clearly that's not a 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.159 nice thing or a good thing, but it was. My 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.479 thing was Oh it's always you know, it's fun. And anyway, 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.000 one day we were standing around, we were in a group. 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.320 Someone said something. I said something back, and a couple 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.439 of minutes later I just saw his name's passed Milton 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:52.199 past Milton just floating around and I just had this 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:56.720 feeling he's floating around for me and he'd heard it 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.320 or part of it, and he called me over and 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:04.280 I'm like, fuck, he called me over and he goes 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.680 he used to call everyone dear one, Like dear one. 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.480 He'd say dear one and I'd go yes, pastor he'd 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:14.680 say now, he said, you have a gift. He said, 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.560 you have a gift, and you need to decide if 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:18.719 you're going to tear people down or build them up 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.679 with that gift. Okay, And I said okay, and then 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:27.200 he just walked off. I'm like, fuck, I took seven seconds. 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:31.040 That said everything in seven seconds and then just walked 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.120 away like Yoda into a cloud. 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:34.000 You know. 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.920 I'm like, that is and I knew exactly what he meant. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:40.000 And he's like, you need to decide if you're going 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.040 to tear people down or build them up. I'm like, okay, 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.960 I'll try to do option B. I'll do my very 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:50.560 best to go guarantee. Yeah, no guarantees because I'm flawed. 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:54.280 But yeah, I think it's a really interesting door to open, 0:19:54.520 --> 0:20:01.040 you know. And two, I think also the I don't 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.720 know if it's it's a human thing or a me thing. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.800 And a few people that I've spoken to, but I think, 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.359 let me know what you two think. But I feel 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.840 like it's a human thing that we don't like not 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.360 knowing stuff, so we like to have an opinion. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:14.359 You know. 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:18.160 It's like people get frustrated when they ask me what 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:19.960 do I think? Not that I get asked a lot, 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.080 but I've been asked quite a few times over the journey, 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.159 what do you think happens when we die? And I 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:32.120 literally go, I don't know, and they're so disappointed. I go, well, firstly, 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:36.440 I do not know. Of course I don't know. Secondly, 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.159 this is what I would like to happen, you know, 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:44.600 like to come back as a fucking unicorn or whatever. 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:49.639 You know. But yeah, here's a working theory of mine 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:53.240 based on nothing really other than a hunt or intuition 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.720 or I don't know, you know, but that's the truth. 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:00.479 But like to go, I don't know. People don't like 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.600 everyone wants to be right, and everyone wants certainty because 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.760 our brain loves certainty and predictability and all of that shit. 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.479 So when you go, I don't know. But the funny 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:14.120 thing is it's in all the uns uncertain, unfamiliar, uncomfortable 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:18.040 that we grow the most. I think, yeah, you know, 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:20.760 and trying to find certainty in the middle of what 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.520 is absolute uncertainty for all of us. So rather than 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.800 I think if we're driven by curiosity, it's a better driver. 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:33.160 One hundred per cent. Yes. And probably the word that's 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:38.320 been very useful for me is preferences, not expectations, right, 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:43.120 And it's whatever with the degree of uncertainty that all 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.159 things have. Like a big part of my brain, my 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:49.840 brain loves certainty, particularly like I'm genetically built for give 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.960 me certainty so they know exactly what I'm doing is 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.720 the right thing. And what it did for a long 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:57.920 time is that that would ruin me because I would 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.280 create certainty I'm going to go do this, and then 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:02.440 I would go through the process and I wouldn't get 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:06.160 the thing, and I'd be devastated and I'd be very 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:10.959 demotivated because I expected. And what I found was that 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:17.160 expectation creates either relief or pain. You don't get lots 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.920 of joy out of expecting something in it coming true. 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:26.520 And so a mentor of mindset, try preferences instead. And 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.000 I really prefer this to happen. I'm going to try 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:33.359 and do everything that I possibly can with what I've got, 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.560 and I'm really going to prefer this outcome. And that 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.200 was an absolute game changer for the uncertainty and it's 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:44.880 it just yeah, it just creates this wonderful joy when 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.440 good things go down, but also like a less attachment 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:49.200 when things don't. 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:55.720 What about the propensity that we have to expect people 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:59.320 to be a certain way based on how we think 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.960 they should be, Do you know what I mean? 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.720 It's like people about this all the time. 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.320 Yeah, yeah, why aren't you more like I think you 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:11.240 should be? Why are you like you? And when I 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.840 say to people, obviously, the best predictor of future behavior 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:18.600 is past behavior. That's not up for debate. That doesn't 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:21.639 mean that they can't change or they won't be different today. 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:23.959 It means, you know, if there've been a certain way 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:27.720 the last four hundred times that you encounter them, there's 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.440