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Speaker 3: hear your grammar. I want to hear the punctuation. I

430
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: want to hear what you're saying, and I want to listen.

431
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: And we notice that people on the right, the people

432
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: activators and crusaders in our model, they will be like,

433
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: I can jump, so why the hell can't you jump?

434
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: You know, there will be this expectation that I can

435
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: do it, so that you can do it, whereas the

436
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 3: guardian who's normally left temporal, they are so just like, oh,

437
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: you can jump, that's so wonderful. I wouldn't want to jump,

438
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: Like there's not that I don't need you to be anything.

439
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 3: Some people are just here because they want us. They

440
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: are naturally geared to support you. That's just the way

441
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 3: that their brain works is like how can I find

442
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 3: support for this individual? Whereas another person is how can

443
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: I naturally find competition and rank within the world. And

444
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: so even those little differences can really help you understand.

445
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: Like even I look at my child because I'm a

446
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: right temporal person, and when I look at my kids.

447
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: I go, ah, when I was playing soccer, I'd be

448
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: out there kicking the ball every afternoon, getting better at

449
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 3: my skills. And my son doesn't want a bar of that.

450
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: He wants to play soccer, he wants to be the

451
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: next best thing, but he doesn't want to get out

452
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 3: there and commit. And because he just his brain is

453
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: geared for fun, freedom and pleasure. That's what he's looking for,

454
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: whereas I'm looking for goals and outcomes and progression. And

455
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: it's been such an interesting exercise and going, oh, my

456
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: brain wants to see this, and I have to catch

457
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: myself with I've been He's been my kid for ten

458
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 3: years now and will be my kid for forever. But

459
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: it's so interesting watching how my brain naturally goes to

460
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: that's not how I would do it. And then my

461
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: mouth fortunately has been trained to not say anything in

462
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 3: that moment. And I'm getting to the point I was like, mate,

463
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: just do it, do what makes it fun, and I'm

464
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: I've had to really train myself out of that process

465
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: of I expect a particular behavior from you. And it's

466
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 3: been through that understanding of just the natural differences that

467
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 3: we have as well. It's been profound for that kind

468
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: of thing, and it makes for immediately better relationships, immediately

469
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: less stress in your life. And the other thing that

470
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: I'll say is that when I've been finding that I'm

471
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: getting more judgmental for people, I now know that that's me.

472
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: I'm not sitting in my best state. As soon as

473
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: I'm in my best state, I don't I'm not holding

474
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: judgment for them. And so if I've slipped with some

475
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: of my behaviors, because I'm still in that process of

476
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: I have to be quite firm with myself about if

477
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: I want to hold this space of you know, just

478
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: that a presence that's more accepting and more caring and

479
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: more loving and more open and more just allowing people

480
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: to be who they're going to be. I have to

481
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: actually really get myself into the right space because I've

482
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: had a lifetime of not being there automatically. And as

483
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: soon as I slip back into that, I noticed that

484
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: my judgment starts coming up again. And now I know,

485
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: instead of like I need to get away from this person,

486
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: I need to think, ah, like I actually need to

487
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: check myself out, because the only reason I would have

488
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: judgment is if I feel like I need something to

489
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: be ranked, I need to be better, or things need

490
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 3: to be better, or things need to be different. That's

491
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 3: been a really big, a really big shift in the

492
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. It's happened.

493
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Speaker 1: So I'm just going to run through these. I'm doctor

494
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: Cam's the guru in the space. Tip's a close second

495
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: or third, and I'm a complete novice in this space.

496
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: But I'm just going to So the six health types

497
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: that you use in your system or methodology is sensor, diplomat, activate,

498
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: a crusader, guardian, connector So I want to ask you

499
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: a few questions relative to this kind of this model.

500
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 1: Do you call it a model, do you call it system?

501
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: What do you call it model?

502
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: Let's call it model. So pH three sixty everybody, if

503
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,479
Speaker 1: you want to go check out read about what in

504
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: doctor Cam's kind of models you are not just his

505
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: everyone's model. Have a look. It's very very interesting. Okay.

506
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: So one of the things that in fact, I need

507
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: to be careful how I say this an interesting conversation

508
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: this morning with someone that I know quite well, who

509
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: I really hope they don't listen to this. It wasn't bad,

510
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: but it was a little clunky and they said they

511
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: wanted feedback, I gave them feedback, and it anyway, let's

512
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: just say it all turned out fine. They're fine, I'm fine.

513
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: It was all good. But it was just it was

514
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: pretty clunky and interesting for a good half hour, right,

515
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: And for a while there I'm like, well, fuck, I

516
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: wish I didn't shut the fuck half pups. It's like,

517
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: because my thinking is a lot of people who go,

518
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: oh no, I really like feedback. They don't actually like feedback.

519
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: They like praise, right. They want praise, they want endorsement,

520
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: they want accolades, they want a bit of love, and

521
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: of course I want that to write. So it's actually

522
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: difficult for people when they get real feedback that is

523
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, you know. And by the way,

524
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: it's just, well, this is how I see it, So

525
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, But how I see it is

526
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: how I see you. How I see this behavior, how

527
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: I've observed you over time, is if you want my feedback,

528
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: you know from looking through the Craig window here it

529
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: is right now, that's people like, oh yeah, no, I

530
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: want that. I want that, and then you give it

531
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: to them like fuck you. Right, So it doesn't always

532
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: go great. But my long winded question is of the

533
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: six types health types, what are the ones that might

534
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: really deal well, what's the one that might deal the

535
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: best with feedback and the one that might be the worst.

536
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: Do you think, TIF, I'm going to ask Tiff first.

537
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, is this above your pay grade? TIF,

538
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: but you're pretty familiar. And then we'll get the guru

539
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: who created it, like censor, diplomat, activator, crusader, guardian, connector

540
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: who do you think might go the best with feedback

541
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: and the worst? Do you have an idea?

542
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: Well, I think more around how they might react, Like

543
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: activators like myself are reactive, so we will say and

544
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: then think later. So you might find that someone has

545
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: a propensity to react immediately to the emotion that it

546
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: brings up and then process it differently later. I don't know,

547
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to let can, I'm going to I want

548
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: to hear what Cans said, go straight.

549
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: To the source. All right, let's give us your wisdom,

550
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: IBI one.

551
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: All right, So there's a bit of a structure for this.

552
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: And activators are hyper sensitive to feedback, so they are activators.

553
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: Their fiery adrenal, they're reac active, and activators really need

554
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: to feel like you are on their team. And also

555
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: activators like figuring out their own solutions. So there's a.

556
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: Okay, stop, stop, stop for one second. Okay, reactivators still

557
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: on activators. And with that in mind, how would you

558
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: advise me? Not that I'm thinking of an activator, not

559
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking no, I mean this is this is

560
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: purely theoretical. But if I had to give you know,

561
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: in some alternate reality, let's call her Jane, if I

562
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: had to give feedback to an activator in this alternate reality,

563
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: how would I go about that to produce the best

564
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: outcome or at least not get punched in the face

565
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: dot com?

566
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: First question is how you're feeling. You've got to get

567
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: their feelings vented first. So what's really important to an

568
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 3: activator is that they've ex express themselves and they've been

569
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: able to express themselves without judgment. That's really important. If

570
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: there's been judgment, they'll suppress their anger for politeness and

571
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: then it will come out and it'll just keep coming

572
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: out in little fires. So the first thing to say, hey,

573
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: how are you feeling? And you want to get a

574
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: bit of a sense like are they fired up? Have

575
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: they not had a snack in the last couple of hours.

576
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: Like there's factors here as to how well they're going

577
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: to take it on because they're very angry people. I

578
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 3: mean that quite genuinely. If they haven't had food, it

579
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: can completely disregulate their psychology. So I won't to go

580
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: do too detailed on this, but the.

581
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: So tip one bring feedback and snacks.

582
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah it snacks, and say just firstly, check in on

583
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: how they're feeling. So and get them to express they're like, oh, yeah,

584
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: we were doing this. How do you reckon it went? Like,

585
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: get their take on it first, Like it's really important

586
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: to see how it's going first. Secondly, say well, I

587
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: want you to know like you and me are on

588
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: this together and we've got to figure this thing out.

589
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: Can we do that for a second, so it's I

590
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: am on your team and we're together. That's so critical

591
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: because activators, their steroid production will naturally go into contest.

592
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 3: Even on bloods, we see they have higher iron levels

593
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 3: and there's an interesting correlation between steroids and iron and

594
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: confrontational so they naturally hold a little bit more. They've

595
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: naturally got more steroid. It's very easy for them to

596
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 3: go into nap just because I want to disagree with you,

597
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: just because. And so the place you need to end

598
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: of the conversation is you and me. We're on the

599
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: same team. We've got a problem that we've got to

600
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: fix together. Can we do that now? It's like yes, right,

601
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: no matter what, you're with me, great, this is what

602
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: went down. What's your take on it? So it's super objective.

603
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: What are your feelings because they're feelings for the activator,

604
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 3: and until all of the feelings have been emptied, you're

605
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: not going to get their logic. So you have to

606
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: keep saying, how do you feel about it? Great? Blah

607
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah, great, awesome, what do you reckon?

608
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: We do next time? You know, and if the feedback

609
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: needs to be direct, like yep, from out like if

610
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: I like through our team perspective, what we needed was this,

611
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 3: this and this, how do you reckon? We would do

612
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: that again next time. So it's at the end of

613
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 3: the day because they are sensitive to feedback. You want

614
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: them to solve their own problems, but you need you

615
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: need an expression of emotion first that gets rid of

616
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: the adrenaline, that gets rid of the contest. It's team

617
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: based stuff. It's explaining the situation and if they need

618
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: more educations, they actually do. You know what happened here,

619
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: this happened, and then this happened, and this happened, which

620
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: is just how it happens. And what connectors and activators

621
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: like saying is it is what it is. That's what

622
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: they love saying as well, it is what it is.

623
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: So you can say it is what it is? What

624
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: would we do next time? So and then they're in

625
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: their own mind solving the problem for the team. Like

626
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, activators their their relationship

627
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: to time is now. Putting them back into the past

628
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: to rehash all of their memories can actually just be

629
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 3: it can feel irritating and to say, hey, in three

630
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: months time, we've got to do something else. It's like

631
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: this what we're doing three months that's irritating as well.

632
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: I've got energy for right now, so let's discuss it

633
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: as it's happening right now. The more you try and

634
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: drag them back into the past and how they you'll

635
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: pull up their feelings from the past, which can then

636
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: be destructive to the conversation as well. So that would

637
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: be my first my first step through for the activator.

638
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: How does that land for you? Guys?

639
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you did there? It lands for me?

640
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: I see what you did there? How does it land?

641
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Tip? Does it land

642
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: for you?

643
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

644
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: I feel seen and heard? Wow, enthusiastic. I'm just trying

645
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: to think about how I'll applied. It's all moving forward.

646
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: Okay. So we've dealt with the high management one, just

647
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: fucking with you, So who would be it? Who would

648
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: be somebody that you maybe you can just be a

649
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: little bit more direct and overt if at all a time.

650
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: So there's the thing. It's the directness, which is it

651
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: can be the issue for like, the person who's most

652
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: open to feedback is the diplomat, which is the opposite

653
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 3: to the activator. The diplomat is constantly searching for the

654
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: infinite possibilities that could be considered. So that's their brain.

655
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: They're constantly filling in their tree of knowledge. They want

656
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: to immerse in more knowledge and more ways and more understandings.

657
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: And so when you explain that there's a different way

658
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 3: to do something, that totally matches their brain to say, oh,

659
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: I'm open to that. But the problem is that they

660
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: absolutely cannot tolerate high stress like. They don't enjoy high

661
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: stress situations because they have less steroid production, which means

662
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: they can't fight as hard, so they need being steady.

663
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: So if you're going to give feedback to a diplomat,

664
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 3: you would say, Hey, what what I would like us

665
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: to do is a SWAT analysis on this thing that

666
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: went down, And I would love you that we're going

667
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: to that meeting in a couple of days, and I

668
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: want you to just collect your thoughts over the next

669
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: couple of days and then we'll come together and what

670
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: they'll do, they'll process so much of the stuff and

671
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: then you can present the analysis as part of the

672
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: SWAT like. It's a very comprehensive, considerate, considerate process that's

673
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 3: going to feel really really good for them. So this

674
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 3: is ideal situations where you've got time and availability, but

675
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: you definitely want the diplomat to be able to think

676
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: about what you're going to be talking about before you

677
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: have the conversation. That's very important because they don't like

678
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: the immediacy of the stress of the directness. And this

679
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: is what happens when you get an activator and a

680
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: diplomat in a relationship. The activator fires off. Even though

681
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: they are really direct with their feedback and they are

682
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: super cutting with the way that they can say things.

683
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: They say things with no fluff, pure adrenaline. Here it

684
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: is that's really challenging for the diplomat, and the diplomat

685
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: saying I need time to go away and think about that.

686
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: The active they go, no, I want to talk about

687
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 3: it now, and they'll chase them around the house saying,

688
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: let's sort this out now, because this is the moment

689
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: now that we need to sort this, whereas the zima says, no,

690
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: I need time to go away, I need to consider it.

691
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: I need to go through all of the layers. So

692
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: their feedback that will be very very good at looking

693
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: into the past. You say, hey, based on based on

694
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: what happened, what do we know from the past that's comparable,

695
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: and what can we teach ourselves because they hold on

696
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: to the past, they're very good. They've got a very

697
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: strong relationship with a hippocampus, their memory center. So what

698
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying here is the where possible give the diplomat notice,

699
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: neither the activator or the i'd say an activator. And

700
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: this is where emotional intelligence comes in, as well, if

701
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: you've got an emotional intelligent activator, you can say, oh,

702
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: that's sucked, and they'll go fu and then you'll laugh

703
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: about it and they go, yeah, no, that did suck,

704
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: and then everyone moves on. But if you've got baggage

705
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: with that activator and there's there's dynamics that are play

706
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: that make the emotions bigger, then they won't recover as

707
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: fast as So if it's it's a really good relationship,

708
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: you can to say I've got to have a we're

709
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: going to have a quick one here, like bang bang

710
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: bang bang bang bang, let's sort it now, and let's

711
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: not say, oh, we're going to have a meeting about

712
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: this in a day. That's just absolutely torturous for the

713
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: activator just to because they're now in a state of waiting,

714
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: which is the opposite of what they want. So if

715
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: you want to chat with Jane's you say, Jane, we're

716
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: going to have a chat. You got five minutes now,

717
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 3: it's like yeah, it's not like, oh, let's chat about

718
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: this big thing in four hours. Like they're there now

719
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: in it for four hours in a place they hate,

720
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: which is planning. They just prefer to do.

721
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, here's what I'm going to do. You've never

722
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: done this before, You're welcome. I'm going to give you

723
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: five kind of labels that get used in day to

724
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: day conversation, not not every day, but just ways that

725
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: we describe people. Completely unscientific, by the way, but generic

726
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: terms that get used a lot. And then I want

727
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: you to tell me one which category or which group

728
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: or groups they might fit in. So number one is

729
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: the people pleaser.

730
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a connector, and literally that's how they learn.

731
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: If we were looking at the learning profile of a connector,

732
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: they are naturally people pleasing. Now there's other subconscious things

733
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: that can make you feel like you're not enough and

734
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: therefore you have to please people. But if we were

735
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: looking purely at biology connectors, their whole sense is, am

736
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: I surrounded by happy faces? Do I feel like I belong?

737
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: And if not, what can I do to predict what

738
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: that person's thinking so that I can shift my behavior

739
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: a little bit to make sure that they're liking me,

740
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: That there's connection still here because oxytocin is driving that response.

741
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 3: So purely from a biological perspective, the connector is the

742
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: people pleaser, and this is what we're teaching kids about

743
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: in school, like teaching teachers about this in school. You

744
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: want to be really MATESI with the connectors and like

745
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: ah ee go on and blah blah blah blah blah,

746
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: because that then makes them feel like, oh, I want

747
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: to please the teacher because he's my friend. But if

748
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: you create this separation between you know, discipline and whatever,

749
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: they'll just they'll turn off and they'll hate you and

750
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: they're not looking to please you anymore. So you actually

751
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: have to have the friendly relationship as the reason that

752
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: they would learn in the first place. That's that's been

753
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: very interesting.

754
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: Sound borderline manipulative, I'm going to say, but I think

755
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: it's just understanding how people works, how people work.

756
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 3: I mean, if you need to talk to your old

757
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: eighty year old mum, you talk to them differently than

758
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: you were the lads at the pub to a five

759
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: year old kid, like you're manipulating them by changing who

760
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: you are. You are whole.

761
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: So PhD in that, I think, all right.

762
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: Here's my next one good point tip. Next one the overthinker.

763
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: Would they go into any of your categories?

764
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the diplomat and crusader can both be in

765
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: that frame of reference. So the dipmat we spoke about

766
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 3: very considerate tree of knowledge, and they have a very

767
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: sensitive balance of serotonin. Serotonin makes you feel like you're

768
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: in the right place, doing the right thing at the

769
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: right time. It's a reward hormone after you've done something well,

770
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: and it's a pleasure hormone comes with a whole lot

771
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: of things like I'm in the right place. If they're

772
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: serotonin drops, it can make their next decision much more difficult,

773
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: like a bunch of serotonin makes you more likely to

774
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: take more risks the next time that you do it.

775
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: So if their gut is off, like if they're over fermenting,

776
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: eating the wrong foods, if they've woken up at the

777
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 3: wrong time, put stress on their body at the wrong time,

778
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: it can actually disrupt their serotonin production, which are signaling

779
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: to their brain, which makes them question what should I

780
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: do here? And because they're very considered, there's twenty different

781
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: options that might be appropriate for example, So that's how

782
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: we call them the true ruminant. And then we have

783
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: the crusader, which is another overthinker. Now anybody can overthink,

784
00:43:54,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: but these two are classical. The crusader is strategic overthinking.

785
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, what are my outcomes here? What's the

786
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: best way for me to get there? And if there's

787
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: any kind of insecurity or any kind of self doubt

788
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: that comes into that process, then they can be worrying

789
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: on the same like on the strategy, what's the best strategy?

790
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: How should I manage this here? And because they've got

791
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: a very interesting combination. They're introverted, but they're motivated externally

792
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 3: by status, so they are deep inside themselves, but they're

793
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 3: constantly monitoring how they're perceived, and so they're constantly internally

794
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: processing am I doing the right thing? Like? Am I'm

795
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: going the right way? Am I going the right way?

796
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: Am I going to the right outcomes? So that can

797
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: create some overthinking as well, and that's it's less related

798
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: to serotonin, more related to their need for don'tmin like

799
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: they need to be on track doing a thing with certainty,

800
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: and if their outcomes are uncertain, if their goals are uncertain,

801
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: that will create overthinking.

802
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: All right, we've got four to go, I'm figuring out

803
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: maybe we don't. I've got four, but I'm like.

804
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 3: Nah, that's right, I can be sure. I'll be suter.

805
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: No, that's all right, now it's fine, we got I mean,

806
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: what about what about the problem solver? I feel like

807
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: my training partner just he's on a practical level. Nothing emotional,

808
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: he's fucking terrible, but other than that, practical things. Yeah,

809
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: so the problem solver. I like that.

810
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 3: So instantaneous problem solving is going to be gut feel

811
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: activators and connectors like their time frame for problem solving

812
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: is in the moment. It's like, and I've seen this

813
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 3: with mother of my children. Something's come up. I'm here

814
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: like thinking what's the goal, what's the outcome? I'm the

815
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: crusader overthinking. She's already taken four actions which were just brilliant.

816
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, you do that really well. And it's

817
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: just like there's an instinct for immediate action and the

818
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: excitement comes and they're they're skill improves when under yours.

819
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: Whereas if you were to think about, like what's the

820
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: really pragmatic, practical, grounded, logical way of doing something, it's

821
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: the combination of the guardian and the diplomat, Like they're

822
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: very grounded, very real, very old that it just makes

823
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: sense to keep it simple, loan maintenance like this, you know,

824
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: and that's like let's just do this simple stuff and

825
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 3: then when it comes to the problem solving, so different

826
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: different types of problem solving. And then the crusader and sensor,

827
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 3: they're very gather all the data, be the expert create

828
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: a better pathway for this problem solving. It's a very

829
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 3: logical construct. Activators, connectors very instinctual. Guardians, diplomats very grounded.

830
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 3: Crusaders and sensors are very cognitive, very very logical pathway

831
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: driven with it.

832
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: What about two more? What about the what about the

833
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: self saboteur, the person who constantly gets in there own

834
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: way or has a capacity to no one. It might

835
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: be the overthinker, right, they might kind of intersect a bit.

836
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: I'd say yes, and then the other thoughts went through

837
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: my mind as well. I feel like that sabotage piece

838
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: is a that's more of a conditioned pattern rather than

839
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: something that we're born with. But I would say that

840
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 3: guardians could get into that if they were like because

841
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: they will helplessly selflessly look after others, and so that

842
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: will then prevent their own ability to move forward, just

843
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 3: because they're so giving and generous that they can lose

844
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: sight of themselves in all of that. Whereas an activator

845
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: could be this is where it went through my mind

846
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: as well. An activator is likely to just take some

847
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: risk and see what happens. And if they're constantly told

848
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: you're never thinking about stuff and you're always screwing it up,

849
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: that would eventually turn into lah, I'm just going to

850
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: screw this up even when I've taken a chance. But

851
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 3: if they had the right support around them, they could

852
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 3: make those same mistakes and just be told, hey, it's

853
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: all about fail failing forward fast. Then they would have

854
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Speaker 3: a different frame off the back of a mistake. So

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Speaker 3: I think self sabatur is there might be some genetics

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Speaker 3: behind it, but I feel like it would be more conditioned.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I've got the last one is a

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Speaker 1: choice of two. You're going to pick, and then I

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Speaker 1: want to circle back to ask you one question about

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Speaker 1: religion before we wind up relative to what we're talking

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Speaker 1: about now. Yeah, so your choice between the catastrophizer and

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Speaker 1: the storyteller. Oh okay, so the storyteller the catastrophizer.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean connectors are the storytellers, There's no doubt

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Speaker 3: about that. Like the fun and the feeling and the

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Speaker 3: joy that comes along with like watching people and verbalizing

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Speaker 3: their thoughts with feeling. That is the connector's gift. The

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Speaker 3: catastrophizer A Diplomats naturally have a pessimism, so as they

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Speaker 3: with less stress, they'll they'll Yes, I chose both, mate,

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Speaker 3: just made.

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Speaker 1: It short, no worries. My last question unless Tip's got

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Speaker 1: one is and I don't know if this is interesting

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Speaker 1: to anyone, it's interesting to me. Like any of the

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Speaker 1: six types more likely to be religious? Do you think

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Speaker 1: or lean into religion? Yeah, I just wonder if I

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Speaker 1: wonder if we went and got a thousand people who

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Speaker 1: go to church or synagogue or temple or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: we did like an assessment on them, whether or not

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Speaker 1: there'd be a commonality or a theme.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. You're going to see monks meditating on a

880
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Speaker 3: hill are going to be much more sense a crusader,

881
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Speaker 3: so they're much more introverted. It's an internal search, introspection,

882
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Speaker 3: trying to figure everything out. Wonder one stations don't need

883
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Speaker 3: external stuff ultimately, so that you're going to see a

884
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Speaker 3: sensor is more it tuned to that where what's so

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Speaker 3: fascinating is that you know, the like the Christian Revival,

886
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Speaker 3: like you know, like the music and you get into.

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Speaker 1: The evangelical Bible something yeap.

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Speaker 3: So there's a particular part of the brain that's particularly

889
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Speaker 3: heighteneding activators and connectors for that that makes them want

890
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Speaker 3: to be in sync and in harmony with the congregation.

891
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Speaker 3: So they're naturally like ooh, like you know, we spoke

892
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Speaker 3: about activators need to be on a team their brain

893
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Speaker 3: and connectors as well. I'm geared to feel part of

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Speaker 3: a team. And then when everyone's doing the same thing

895
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Speaker 3: at the same time, it creates this incredible harmonization which

896
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Speaker 3: really fires up this part of the brain for them,

897
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Speaker 3: which makes them like you likely to see them like

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Speaker 3: out the front with big energy and then and then

899
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Speaker 3: you're more likely to see the like the service oriented

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Speaker 3: religious individuals being more the diplomat and the guardian like

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Speaker 3: I'm genuinely wanting to serve, and the service being of

902
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Speaker 3: real importance in all of that, you know, like the

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Speaker 3: activator is there for the music and the dance and

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Speaker 3: the expression. The guardian is there to make sure that

905
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Speaker 3: the collection plates handed around, that the funds are all okay,

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Speaker 3: that everyone's got their cup of tea and their cake

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Speaker 3: at the end. And it's a very different experience of

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Speaker 3: that as well, So it doesn't exactly answer a question,

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Speaker 3: but we definitely gravitate towards different types and different styles.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely no idea where we'd go today. When we started,

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Speaker 1: everybody needed a tip for doctor Cam and it ended

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Speaker 1: up being a kind of a story sixty conversation, which

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Speaker 1: is totally fine, So we might as well bang it

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Speaker 1: off and give it a plug. Tell people where they

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Speaker 1: can learn about the different types health types and maybe

916
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Speaker 1: see who they are, do a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: self assessment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the easiest way to do it is just the

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Speaker 3: just search doctor car McDonald group, Shae group, and there's

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Speaker 3: all of the stuff on there. You can get a

921
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Speaker 3: digital twin that essentially tells you about all these things

922
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Speaker 3: about yourself. There's even relationship courses so that you can

923
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Speaker 3: learn how to be better friends with Jane and understand

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Speaker 3: yourself in that as well. There are we do corporate staff,

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Speaker 3: we're working with schools as I mentioned, and a whole

926
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Speaker 3: lot of stuff with gym's as well. So it's all

927
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Speaker 3: there on the page and if you need any support,

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Speaker 3: I'm here for you and.

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Speaker 1: What's your mobile number? Again?

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Speaker 3: For two to one activate doctor Cam.

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Speaker 1: We love you appreciate you. Thanks so much, Tiffty and Cook,

932
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Speaker 1: thanks for letting me throw you under the bus and

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Speaker 1: doctor Cam bring you back out safe and sound. We'll

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Speaker 1: say goodbye fair but thanks Tiff, thanks Doc, Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you