1 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Foo on two three sixty Roubili from Every Angle, dream 2 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Me Again, The Great Good and tellas It's been the 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Journeys on Paul Croley and Andrew Webster and breaking news 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: this afternoon, Broncos top four hopes Rockt's Gamut ship Osaki 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: has been dropped after a boozy night out. 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Crawls, You've got some information on this, Yeah. 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 3: Big story. 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 4: Peter Bedell's broken this afternoon on the Courier Male website. 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: Apparently Gamut has turned up. 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 4: He's gone out on the drink on Sunday night in Brisbane, 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 4: not after the return from Townsville. 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: He's had a big night out. 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 4: He's turned up to training on Monday morning under the 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: weather and Madges made the decision to drop him. 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: Dean Maroner moves. 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 4: To the Center's Jesse Arthur's onto the wing and I 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: guess going forward depending on how the Broncos go. Firstly 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: on Thursday night against the storm, but heading into the semis. 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 4: Does it cost this bloke who has been one of 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: the season's. 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: Great comeback stories he spot for the finals. 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 5: I think, especially the way they've been attacking the last 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 5: couple of weeks. They've averaged forty points you know, without 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 5: the six and seven, He's had a great He's had 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 5: a great season. It's has a shame this part biggest 26 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 5: game of the season so far, Melbourne Storm to get 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 5: in the top four. History shows that you can't win 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 5: the comp outside the top four. I don't think it's 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 5: the crime of the century, but that's the standards. 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 6: I think that says everything about the Broncos standards. I mean, 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 6: he's he's the one player. When he made his Origin 32 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 6: debut in Game three, remember all those great stories about 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 6: how he was a Michael maguire project. He gave him 34 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 6: a lifeline from the trial and train contract to you know, 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 6: Origin Decider and played the house down. The fact that 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 6: the leadership group were on board with it straight away, 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 6: and the fact that they've got such a big game 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 6: and they're trying to hot nail down fourth. You know, 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 6: it says a lot about where the Broncos are at 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 6: a cla. I think it's if there's a silver lining 41 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 6: to it, it's how they've handled it. 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean some may say it's a bit harsh, but 44 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: if you're talking about certain standards, you know, and you 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: mentioned it's a big game for them, top four opportunity. 46 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: But you've got to set standards. You've got to have 47 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: a culture that you were here to. 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: Every player's got to be on the same page, heading 49 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: in the same direction, with the same goals. And he's 50 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: made it be cool, he imagine, I like the leadershipship 51 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: groups has backed him on it. Now it's been a 52 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: bizarre twenty four hours though. One of their players was 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: drinking toilet water yesterday and then now she ws worse. 54 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: But you just mentioned it their breath, like you mentioned 55 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 4: the culture. Shouldn't the culture be sorted out before round 56 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 4: twenty seven? 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: Like? 58 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: Is that the issue with the Broncos said they're. 59 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: Going to make it. 60 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 6: They're going to make mistakes, of course, Yeah they've made. 61 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: It's a pretty bloody costly mistady. 62 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: Someone their mistakes all year though, and there's been a 63 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: constant hasn't They've been pretty good? 64 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, haven't they? 65 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, no they haven't. They have. 66 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 4: But like you said, the rece Walsh seeing again, not 67 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 4: the crime of the century, but pretty bloody silly. And 68 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 4: then this before a match where you're fighting for a 69 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: top four spot like that, you know it's the final. 70 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 3: Round of the regular season. 71 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: If you beat the Storm and that's your line in 72 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 4: the sand match too. 73 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: We've seen them towel. 74 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: Up some of the easier teams in the competition in 75 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: recent weeks, but go back four weeks and when they 76 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: played this team, they were neck and neck with for 77 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 4: the first twenty minutes against Melbourne before they got those 78 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 4: three injuries in quick succession. And you know, the Broncos 79 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 4: have got so much talent and they can blow any 80 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: team off the park, but the one thing you do 81 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: wonder about them is defensively and their mindset, if they've 82 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: got what it takes to beat the big guns. And Gord, 83 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 4: you tell me about this losing Shubasaki defensively in the centers. 84 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: So you're bringing in a kid in Mariner who's an 85 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: A grade talent defensively, well. 86 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 5: Defensively he's a winger, so he's going to get asked 87 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 5: a lot of questions. You were just under like Craig 88 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 5: Bellamy would probably be licking his lips yep, just the 89 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 5: way that they're going to attack Cameron Munster. Yeah, and 90 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 5: I think they do lose a bit Shubersarki showed and 91 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 5: stayed of origin when he went there was a big 92 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 5: task for him and Robert Toyer and they did a job. 93 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: So they are going to lose there. 94 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 5: But Maren is such an a tight such an excitement 95 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 5: with the football. But it's defensively when Brisbane have lacked. 96 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: Gordy spot on, like for the punter at home. The 97 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: difference between defending in the centers two winger is significant. 98 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: It's huge. You know you're going to make more decisions. 99 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: You know you're getting more thrown, aren't you in defense 100 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: in that position. A lot of wingers that do move 101 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: into the center struggle in defense because it is so different. 102 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: So it's a big loss, it really is. And we've 103 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: Madge taking on Bellamy. It's a big game. 104 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: Melbourne storm up against Brisbane and Madge has a shocking 105 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: record against Craig which makes this game even more important. 106 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: And without Shibasaki. But let's talk about that re Why 107 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: why why is. 108 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: It so bad? 109 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: For so long we're talking, we're going ears, but here 110 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: it is here like pretty incredible stats. Fifteen games, one win, 111 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: he's got a six point seven percent win rate and 112 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: the last time he beat him was in twenty thirteen. 113 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 5: This is this is not about Madge. It's like when 114 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 5: people try to coach like Wayne Bennett. There's one Wayne. 115 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 5: It's like someone trying to impersonate Michael Jackson. 116 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: There's only one. So Craig Balamy Tuesday, No, No, but 117 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: Craig twenty years right. You can't do that, is Craig. 118 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 5: So if Madges learn onneath him and tries to beat 119 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 5: the master, it's really hard to meet like the meet 120 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 5: and beat that guy, you know, unless you're coaching his 121 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 5: footy side. 122 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: So he's going to have to come up with some. 123 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: Tricks Jesus against Melb's. 124 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: Out there that have a bad record against Bellami they 125 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: all have a record and climb clear exactly. 126 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well, and then the Ruses but they hadn't 127 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 5: won in nineteen or twenty against Penrith and Melbourne. 128 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: So he's not Robinson, Crusoe, Broka. 129 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: Its the Broncos record without It doesn't matter who's coaching 130 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 4: against Melbourne. 131 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: They can't remember. 132 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 5: For as long as I've played against Melbourne a long 133 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 5: time ago. We can't beat Melbourne at Melbourne's game. We've 134 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: got to play our style and that's throwing the ball 135 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 5: around and back your mistakes. But if they go in 136 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 5: the shell and think they're going to go set for 137 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 5: set with Melbourne, you play unto their hands. 138 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Just Buzz and Peter Bedell broke that story on shibasak 139 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: So World on the Bomber and Buzz Buzz ever so 140 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: reliable as we know now, beware of the embarrassed Craig 141 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: Bellamy though last week was something that we've hardly if 142 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: we've hardly seen it. I don't you know the way 143 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: that they got He's six hundredth game. Now, Melbourne are 144 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: the best at bouncing back right, so that makes it 145 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: even harder for the Broncos than Michael MacGuire. 146 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 6: I was down in Melbourne for Craig bellmenby six hundredth 147 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 6: dinner on the Wednesday night, and you could tell that 148 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 6: he was sick of the attention, you know, and they 149 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 6: usually win milestone matches, they're renowned for it Melbourne and 150 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 6: had been such a big build up and I remember 151 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 6: you could just see he just wanted to get out 152 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 6: there and play the game. But that result, you know 153 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 6: what happened in that second half, they would have hurt him. 154 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 6: And I thought the way that he's the team that 155 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 6: he's picked and hardly rested any players just says how 156 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 6: serious he's taking it. 157 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: It's funny. 158 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: It probably tells you a little bit about Bellamy too, 159 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: how he always puts the team first. 160 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: In that in his milestone match. 161 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: He rested all these players like he put one hand 162 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: tied behind his back. He did that and he would 163 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: him and their first half. 164 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: You know, they went out and they did their absolute best. 165 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: At they're leading ten nil. The Rooster's scored forty second 166 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: half points. But I'll ask you this, Braaith so Mark 167 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: Nwangan ed Parsi has has gone out and scored four tries. 168 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 4: They'd scored five tries down that right edge. Melbourne missing 169 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: Xavier coach Xavier Coats come back this week. I think 170 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: his hoalth back too, Like is it completely different. 171 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: I honestly look at that game and as great as 172 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: it was for the Roosters, and that was a fantastic 173 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: bounce back and they were the far better team, superior team. 174 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: I think if you look at the next month ahead, 175 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about that game at all. I know 176 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: that Craig is because that's the way that he works. 177 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: But you're right, like they had key positions, especially that coach. 178 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: Coach has been not only amazing in defense, but in 179 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: an attack, he's they go to, you know, and they 180 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: didn't even have him. They held their gloves up for 181 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: the first half and you looked like they are a 182 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: chance of winning. And all the tribes were the same, 183 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: like at the same edge, similar plays which the Roosters 184 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: was great for them to acknowledge that or see that 185 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: and attack that weakness in the opposition. 186 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 2: But I'm just not worried about any of you guys 187 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 2: worried about it. 188 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 4: No, No, that's because I truly thought when when you're 189 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 4: sitting there and you're watching the highlights of that game, 190 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 4: and Robbo even considered in his post match press, so 191 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: you know, we picked out what we needed to do 192 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 4: in the second half and we went out there and 193 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 4: did it. 194 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: But you bring coach back into that side, it's just different. 195 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: The biggest for say, Craig Bellle he made was putting 196 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: bred Read. 197 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: In his box. 198 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: Really didn't even win at the Strikers. That's the worst 199 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 5: of a soccer team coming. 200 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: Out of Queensland, all right, now, Madge, he built a 201 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: bit of a gasket on the weekend at halftime and 202 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: they were winning. Now four points up in this game 203 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: and we were covering this live on Saturday. I quite 204 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: liked it, you know, because of what he's renowned for 205 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: and the criticisms he has received over the years without 206 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: he's a hard task master. 207 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: A lot of people sort of looked it deeply into this. 208 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: I didn't. I thought it was okay. I'd like to 209 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: get the opinion of you got I was the same. 210 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 6: That just looks like a normal halftime address from Michael maguire. 211 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 6: I've seen worse from him. I don't know what the 212 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 6: song of dances about it. 213 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 4: I just think that the way the Broncos are playing 214 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 4: at the moment, it frustrates people watching it. It would 215 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: have to frustrate the hell out of match because they 216 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: can be so brilliant and then in the blink of 217 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: an eye, one will come up with a stupid mistake 218 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: and it can turn the match. And if not, if 219 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 4: not for that forward pass in that game on the weekend, 220 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: that turned a two point lead into an eight point lead, 221 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: and it could be a completely different game, and Madge 222 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 4: would see, you know, these these little things come September 223 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: can really let you down. 224 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: We'll get to that forward pass then, by the way, 225 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: and everybody deserves it. 226 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 5: I'm sure you would have got one way and I'll 227 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 5: probably count on one hand in the two hundred odd games, 228 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 5: you know, and then when I coached with Johnny Lang, 229 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 5: he had two two a year. 230 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: Said the same when he coached us. Yeah, he would 231 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: space out the amount of. 232 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 5: Time and you can't do it all the time because 233 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 5: it's on deaf fears. So but he should know what 234 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: messages are going to work by now I haven't clearly 235 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 5: says he's had done two. Yeah there twenty nineteen, Ben 236 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: than Tiger Town. So no, no, no, but like it's 237 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 5: a better side. But like then sometimes as a pie, 238 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 5: you do deserve a spray, and sometimes you sit there 239 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: waiting for a spray, and sometimes you don't get and 240 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 5: sometimes you think we didn't deserve that. 241 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: And you get address from ben Hant straight after the 242 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: game and he said that has been good all year. 243 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: It was a blow up, but they haven't received too 244 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: many of them. Like that was his exact wordsdown debate 245 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: rages over the forward pass rulings and the ship Asaki 246 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: one to Walters, which you just mentioned. 247 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: Now it was let go by the referees. The bunker 248 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 2: can't rule on it. 249 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: The NRL are standing by that. They think that the 250 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 1: ball come out of their hands backwards. I'd like to 251 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: get the opinion of the penal. 252 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 6: That's a forward pass any day of the week. That's 253 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 6: not that's forward out of the hands. Yeah, case closed. 254 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: If you're watching that and on the Fox commentary, I 255 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: can't remember exactly who was called, but whoever it was 256 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: and whoever was the expert there says straight away meanful. 257 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: We're sitting at home. Every single person that you. 258 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: Speak to, bar Rashley, kleinbo people in the n are 259 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: trying to convince this. 260 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 5: Can I sick up for Ashley clients who he's going 261 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 5: and he's not going to see the side of the ball, 262 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 5: so he slows up to see it. 263 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: What's the linesman doing? He needs Roger was telling seriously 264 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: because that's like, where's the linesman? What's he doing? He's plotting? 265 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: But see, this is the issue and in fairness to 266 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: Ashley climb situation, just quickly. 267 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: Do we need four touch? 268 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: It's not about floating forward because we know it floats forward. 269 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: The argument here is does it come out of their 270 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: hands backwards or forwards? 271 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: It's a forward pass. I'm just telling you if it's 272 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: a clock because we do know the rules. Out of 273 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 4: the hands backwards But to me, that's that's coming out 274 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: at one o'clock. To be a backwards pass, it's got 275 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 4: to come out at three o'clock. The hands, I've got 276 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: to be straight for more. That's that's at that angle. 277 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 4: Let's it reminds me of the Trills pass in that 278 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: comeback game against the Roosters. 279 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: See that that's an example of it coming out of 280 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: the hands backwards but floating forwards. 281 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: The other one came out of the hand. I'm asking 282 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: the questions, but I'm going to answer my own question. 283 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: It came out of the hands forward. 284 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just you know, I've supported a lot of 285 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: the calls from the area this year. I can't support 286 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: this one. I really can't, I think at the time. 287 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not going to stick up for client. 288 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: Client couldn't be any closer to it, and you know, 289 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: and the touch judge he wasn't keeping up. You know, 290 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: you can kind of understand that in that situation, given 291 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: that first gradead league plays a very fast but climb 292 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: was in composition I know, you me and Gordon where 293 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: he could have lost sight of it a little bit there. 294 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 2: But look where Walter's ends up. You know, it was 295 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: crazy you know, you have to this game. You have to. 296 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 6: You have to roll with mistakes like that from time 297 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 6: to time. The thing is that it just seems to 298 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 6: happen a lot. 299 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 5: We have the technology, so this is a question, right 300 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 5: that I get all the time. They can check for everything. 301 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: When you see where it's left his hands, and if 302 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 5: it goes more than a meter, it's. 303 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: A forward forward. 304 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 5: Well, so like this guy said, well, if it comes 305 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: out of the hand backwards and it goes give it 306 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 5: like a meter to float, does that make sense? All 307 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 5: fifty centimeters? But if it goes further than that, if 308 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 5: we've got the technology to a Ford packer. 309 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 4: I don't agree with that argument because I've seen I've 310 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: seen passes that did come out of the hands backwards 311 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: that have traveled five or six meters for depending. 312 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: On the speed they're going at. 313 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: But in this instance, mate, I think the bunker is 314 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: the answer because it just leaves the game open to 315 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: ridicule because we are all sitting there and watching the replay, 316 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: and you watch replay after replay and it only took 317 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: one and I'll guarantee if that's awarded a no try, 318 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 4: there is no blow up. There's no blow up, but 319 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: the fact that the bunker can't come in and correct 320 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: her are what I would. 321 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: Consider an hour all passes or four try in the 322 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: lead up to try. 323 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: So the try scoring from the time the ball's played 324 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: to the time it's scored, because as it is, we 325 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: go back and review every single try anyway, like every 326 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: try is reviewed. And if you sit there and you're 327 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: staring at a forward pass that happens to be a 328 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: green who everyone talks about. Everyone talked at the video 329 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: ref coming in for the howler. There's a hell, there's 330 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: the hell. 331 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: You know, that's what it should be there for. 332 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 6: I don't agree with the micro chip in the ball 333 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 6: technology and all that rubbishaid they were going on about 334 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 6: just that, Yeah, but they were also when they also 335 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 6: talking about lines and imaginary lines and field and all 336 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 6: that stuff. 337 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: I do think the touch judges need to get when 338 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: when the when COVID came in, they got rid of 339 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: the two. 340 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: The two refs. 341 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 6: When they got rid of the two refs, the line 342 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 6: out of you you needs to be need to skateboard. 343 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 6: The line out of the NRL was that the two 344 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 6: touch judges were going to be like a second and 345 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 6: third referee to judge and stuff like that, and the 346 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 6: touch judges don't I don't know what they do speedwork. 347 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: They like it, and if the bunker did come in, 348 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: it wouldn't stop you. 349 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: Like, if it's a really close one and the bunker 350 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: can't give you an either way, well then you have 351 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: to copy. 352 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: But when it's one like that and you just know 353 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: it's going to cause your heartache, I pick it up. 354 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: How do you determine it just quickly before we move 355 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: on from this, because we could probably argue it for 356 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: a while. How are you determine how close it is? 357 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: And you know, like this, what's a hell or what's not? 358 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: We're not going to We're not going to be I would. 359 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: Think you would. 360 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 4: It get a bit murky, but that in those murky 361 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 4: situations where it rounds a little bit each way, you've 362 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: got to back the riff's call is. 363 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 5: But if it's one like that where you hold on, 364 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 5: don't we just do this and it's going to be 365 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 5: black and white. If the ball goes forward, the ball 366 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 5: goes forward no matter how it comes out of your hands. 367 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: Isn't that common sense? 368 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: Well, that's physics, And unfortunately, the ball will travel forward 369 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: even if it's come out of the hands backwards. Often 370 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: the argument is because of the camera angles, it's deceiving. 371 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: You know, you don't know, you can't you always tell 372 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: exactly just how far the balls fighted forward or whether 373 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 4: it's coming out. 374 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: Of the head. 375 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 6: But that one there, as you said with the line, 376 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 6: that one, that one's so obvious. 377 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: Take a look at the ins and out's around twenty. 378 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: He's seven thanks to sports Bet for the Bronco Shibasaki 379 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: dropped as we spoke about the top of the show. Now, 380 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: Hughes returns at half back for the Melbourne Store Murray 381 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: to make his season debut for the very last game 382 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: against the Rooster. That's an interesting one. Joey Walsh to 383 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: make his debut off the bench for the Melly Segers. 384 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: Cleary returns for their near full strength Panthers team and 385 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders are we're going to rest ten. 386 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: Can we get Buzz on the line to see whether 387 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: he's okay with it. 388 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 4: We're actually resting seven players, three legitimate injuries. But the 389 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: ten players out of the game, there's ten, six legitimate injuries. 390 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: We didn't blow. 391 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 4: On the final sure, so they would be playing and 392 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 4: I'd say, guess what I reckon. If this was a 393 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 4: final this week, they'd still be playing. 394 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: So yes and buzz. Do the Raiders earn the right 395 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: to rest players? 396 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: Bloody if they have the right strangers getting arrest this 397 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 4: week it's the first rest he's had all season. He's 398 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 4: played every single round. To be one press now after 399 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: copping a really bad whipblack the right, Where. 400 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: Do you see on this? Because you went on last week? 401 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: I agree with that. I can't believe this happens every year. 402 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 6: The whole aim of playing this game is to win 403 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 6: the comp not round twenty seven, not round twenty six. 404 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 6: If you've earned the riders you said they do this 405 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 6: in professional codes all around the world. You manage a 406 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 6: squad and it's a long season. What more do you 407 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 6: want out of the out of the player? Like the games, 408 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 6: I've never been tougher, never been harder. The season has 409 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 6: never been longer, and they've got so many commitments. Of course, 410 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 6: they're not robots. You've got to give them a freshen 411 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 6: up before the big dance. 412 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: And we've already moved on from last week and it's 413 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: a distant memory already in it, Like I mean, they 414 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: rested all the players and play on six again. 415 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: All right, Now the Raiders, you're a bit worried crawls. 416 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: Or you want them because they're playing they've got a 417 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: shorter turnaround before the final. 418 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 4: There's a bit of an issue here, and in my eyes, 419 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 4: it has the potential to be a very unfair one 420 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: result on the Raiders. So the Broncos, who could finish fourth, 421 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 4: sit fourth on the ladder at the moment, play Thursday 422 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 4: night against the Storm. 423 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: The Warriors are playing Friday night. 424 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 4: The Sharks, who also can finish fourth if things go 425 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: their way, are playing on the Saturday. 426 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: The Raiders are playing on the Sunday. 427 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: And it's not locked in yet, but the talk out 428 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 4: there is that potentially the Raiders will probably get the 429 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: Saturday in the first finals. And their argument, and I 430 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 4: think it's a very legitimate argument, is that the Broncos 431 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: will have a nine day rest before that game, The 432 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: Warriors would have an eight day rest, the Sharks seven, 433 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 4: and the Raiders, who finished minor Premiers will be worst 434 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: off with. 435 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: The six day two. Surely it's got to go put 436 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: on the Sunday. 437 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: The rest of the ten players, well. 438 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 3: They are resting ten players, but they aren't that wrong. 439 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, why would you be Hendlin Sunday? 440 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: I remember one and two used to always play Sunday. 441 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: That was the big team. 442 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 4: Where I reckon this has gone wrong. I reckon at 443 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 4: the start of the season, when they're doing the drawer, 444 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 4: they probably look at the fact that the Raiders are 445 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: playing the Dolphins final round. They're not going to be 446 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: playing finals, and so they end up on the last game. 447 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 2: Sorry, that's motivated them all year. 448 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: It has made. 449 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 6: This Saturday's winner is going to have it up on 450 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 6: the sheds. 451 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: Don't you think it's a legitimate No? 452 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 5: I do, Yeah, I just I'm confident. But they'd be 453 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 5: so excited. I know what you're saying, But they'd be 454 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 5: so excited. And the six day turnaround is fine, Like 455 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 5: they they manage that. Now, what's the sports igned to do? 456 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 5: Let him earn his job for one week and get 457 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 5: them right. 458 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: So give the Broncos and just give him a leg up. Hey, 459 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 3: sometimes it's worst likely that's who they're going to be playing. 460 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 2: But sometimes it's worth sitting around made. 461 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad they've still got the rest. 462 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 2: There's a positive with both. Yeah, cut you bee for 463 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: the week. If I can't get a word in anywhere, 464 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: I'll here you go. 465 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: The wild card weekend for the finals. I hate it. 466 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: I hate it. 467 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: Why should the teams that finish ninth and tenth be 468 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: rewarded and potentially knock out the teams that finish seventh 469 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: and eighth. F We have a twenty seven round competition, right, 470 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 4: It's a survival of the fittest. 471 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: It's a test of endurance. Why should you get. 472 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: To the last weekend and throw it all upside down 473 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 4: and potentially have Team ten taking the spot of Team seven, 474 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: which in this case it would be the Dolphins taking 475 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 4: the spot. 476 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: Of the Panthers. 477 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 6: Is that fair? 478 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: No? 479 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 3: No way? 480 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: Agree? 481 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 6: You know it must be the last round because the 482 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 6: wild card weekend story popper. 483 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: In the news cycles comes around every year. I agree. 484 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 6: If you finished tenth in a seventeen team competition or 485 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 6: an eighteen team competition, you don't deserve to have. 486 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: A bite of it. 487 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 6: It works, It works in biggest, bigger competitions around the 488 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 6: world where they have thirty four teams. 489 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: Nineteen twenteen that comes tenth is any chance of winning 490 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: the competition? Well, if they've had a lot of injuries, 491 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: so there is a little bit of merit. 492 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: If they've had a lot of injuries and they've had 493 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 5: five or six, say something like South or the Dolphins 494 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 5: with their sides, and they've gone through Origin and they 495 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 5: get all their players back and they've hit some form 496 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 5: and they just run out of petrol, that could be 497 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 5: quite exciting. 498 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 6: If you can't get into the eighth in twenty four 499 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 6: rounds and that's matches in twenty seven rounds and you 500 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 6: don't deserve to be. 501 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 4: And my argument on top of that would be we 502 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: already say if you don't finish top four, you're not 503 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 4: going to win the camp, right, you're throwing an extra 504 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 4: elimination final. Basically on top of these, all the teams 505 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 4: in the bottom two and the next two they've got 506 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: no chance. 507 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: I think the main point too, before we move on, 508 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: is it doesn't stop resting anyway, because isn't that what 509 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: the whole is in what this was all suggested. 510 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: Is Blake solid now the NRL boss. 511 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: At least that headline is that breaking. That's a good story. 512 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: That's something all right. 513 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: I have named the full strength side and ominous warning 514 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: for the Dragons. 515 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: This is a big test for Shane Flanney, isn't it. 516 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 6: It has to be they've I thought they'd been brave there, 517 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 6: you know, a few weeks ago, but now the wheels 518 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 6: have fallen off the season, haven't they. Look I'm a 519 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 6: supporter of Flanno's extension. I've said on this show maybe 520 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 6: two years was too much. I'm happy with the extra year. 521 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 6: But you know, I'm sure we're all hearing all the 522 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 6: same rumblings about some players not being happy with him. 523 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 6: That happens when you're having a losing season. But I 524 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 6: think he's under pressure going into the going into next year. 525 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: But was there pressure to re sign him? No, it wasn't, no, no, no. 526 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 6: It was all about giving this that club some stability 527 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 6: from Mary to Anthony Griffin and then even in Flano's 528 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 6: first year there was you know, it's hard to recruit 529 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 6: and it's hard to bring stability to your club when 530 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 6: you've got a coach that continually got the axe hovering over. 531 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: There is a lot of players on the way out 532 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: Web and there's not a lot of players on the 533 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: way in Cruels. 534 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: Now there's not. 535 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 4: There's a stack of players gues you could go through 536 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: Jack de Bell and Tyrell Sloane. 537 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 3: Who else is leaving like Laurie someone's been the love cruels. 538 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: Well, there we go, there's the outs and there's the 539 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: inks and you know, these sort of situations happen at 540 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 4: every club, don't they And it always creates a bit 541 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 4: of a toxic culture when you've got players that are leading. 542 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: But I agree with what you're hearing Webbe in that 543 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: there is a little bit of unrest And then you 544 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 4: go back to Flanno's situation. They got those two wins 545 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: against the Raiders and Cronulla, but the fact of the 546 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: matter is they finished eleventh last year. They're currently sitting 547 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 4: fifteenth on the ladder and I just don't know where's 548 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 4: the fire. Why did they have to give him that extension? 549 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: Well I couldn't they have waited a few weeks. Has 550 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 4: it resulted in any for the players going to their club? 551 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 6: And it's more next year on a couple of years 552 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 6: to come. My big issue is what they're going to 553 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 6: do in the Hearts. What are they going to do 554 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: with Daniel Atkinson and and and where does he playing? 555 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 6: Is it alongside time King Toyle, I don't know or Kyle. 556 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 6: That's that's the main It has to. 557 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: Be though, doesn't it. 558 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: What well. 559 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 4: Kyle Flanagan, We've said it, and we're not picking on 560 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 4: their bloke, like he tries his guts out, But I 561 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 4: just don't see how you think that having Kyle as 562 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: as your seven going forward is going to put you 563 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 4: not just in the top eight, but in the top 564 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: four or where. 565 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 3: They want to be. 566 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: And they've bought Atkinson, they've got King Tongis, who's a 567 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: pretty fair talent, but they've got they've got something that 568 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 4: that Flannel hasn't got. 569 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: They've got a bit more speed and. 570 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 4: And I just don't understand why Locky Ilius hasn't got 571 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 4: another shot this year. Like you know, he came off 572 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: a broken leg. They brought him, they brought him to 573 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 4: the club. He kept coming off a broken leg. He 574 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 4: hardly got it answer to secure his position. Once he 575 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 4: got punted, he never came back. And yet we've watched 576 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 4: them finish the season like they did, and there's no 577 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 4: question against the Raiders and Cronulla they went really bloody well. 578 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 4: But I can't see the improvement there. And I've said 579 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: it before and I'll say it again. If I was 580 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: a young halfback coming through, I would not go to 581 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 4: that club while he's there, because there is obviously 582 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: Something going wrong with you.