WEBVTT - Run Home: Who's in and who's out? 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:11.360 Hello, Welcome to the Daily Telegraph Eril Podcast. My name 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:13.640 is Adam Mobbs. Back in the chair after a little 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.120 bit of a hiatus. You have to leave me around 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.560 the park for team of CADU Pam Whaley. How are 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:19.279 you going good? 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:20.279 How are you look? 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.480 This is strange, isn't it. I've come back after a 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.600 little while away and it has been a while. Our 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:27.560 big desk has been replaced by a little desk. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.720 We've moved out of the nineteen nineties newsroom. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:31.800 Yeah, what about that? 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.080 We're into YEA twenty twenty four. 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.519 Yeah, and not only that, we're also broadcasting into the 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:39.600 Maddie John's feed for the next couple of weeks while 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:44.400 Maddie's away on Olympic duty. Got to say, I'm a 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.000 little concerned. I spoke to him on Thursday and he said, 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.440 can't talk, cannot find my wallet on my passport. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:52.680 That's very brand. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:54.880 Do you have a minder there with him. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.320 To know the worst party? Well, he's you know, with 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.520 Steve Crawley, I think over it from Fox, so he's 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.400 not going over with Trish, his wife. So if you 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.720 know Maddie, you know that he can't operate as a 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.720 human being. Basically without Trish's help. So he is very worried, 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.760 although he did pitch up. His first column idea was 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.920 the top ten things that tourist shouldn't do in Paris, 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:18.360 and then he was going to go and do them all. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.959 But I thought, when you go and see that the 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.440 Eiffel Tower is guarded by people with machine guns, you 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:26.720 think maybe you should. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:27.240 Maybe don't do that. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.360 Yes, especially around the Olympics where security is normally quite usened. Yeah, 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.240 he might be before the Olympic seven start israels. 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:35.959 Like it's going to be a bit of a holiday 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:36.960 for Trish then too. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.839 Fo she'll only have the two kids rather than the three. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.360 But save travels. Mattie. We hope you're well over there 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.360 because it's going to be a big couple of weeks. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:51.680 But speaking a big couple of weeks, run home Round 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.560 twenty just got run and done. Your raid is still 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.160 in the top eight Battle Big Week. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:02.520 Still in the top eight battle Honey, probably because of 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:09.000 Chanelle Harris to Vida's hard training. Honestly, seeing him in 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.640 the sheds afterwards, he just made a b line straight 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.560 for the sheds. Couldn't even you know, didn't want to 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:19.360 be out there for a second. But yeah, the Jamal 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.880 foggerty back, I think that sort of made a bit 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.440 of a difference as well, and I think it will 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.640 make a bit of a difference on the run home. 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.520 I think for Camera in the end, if they do 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.120 end up missing the eight, they will look back on 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.280 some of the games that they let slip during the 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:37.040 year and rw those. But yeah, I didn't realize an 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:42.880 interesting step on Canberra. I think they've won every single Basically, 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:48.760 they are specialists at winning the tight games, six games 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:50.520 I think with six points or less and this was 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:50.960 another one. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.280 So they'd love that tight tussle. 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.359 And that's kind of the side that Ricky Stewart has 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.520 coach for years and years, that tough, pritty side that's 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.799 always that's always in the contest. But yeah, I don't 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.920 know there's such a scramble. Those last couple of positions 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.840 in the top eight. I think won't be decided until 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.040 late which is which is. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.160 Good, right, Yeah, yeah, you don't want everything. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.400 So I think the Warriors are probably getting towards the 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.799 point where we start talking about them mathematically, and that's 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:16.720 when you start. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:20.639 Saying, okay, you fence itter that once you get them mathematically, 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.480 they can make it, put a line through them. Yeah. 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.840 Yeah, there's still a couple of I know we're probably 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.560 jumping the gun here, but there's still a couple of 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.040 buyers that will come into play, I think as well, 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.920 because the Cowboys have one, the Broncos have one, the 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.760 Knights have one, and Manly do too, so they can 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.160 get themselves a little bit further in in the next 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:45.119 seven weeks. Yeah, which all come at really good times. 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.240 What about was the stat you were telling me before 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.040 the Broncos do not have to leave Queensland now for 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:51.760 the rest of the season unless they make the finals. 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.840 Was somebody from the Broncos camppointed it out to me 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.720 this morning. So that's sort of the only traveling they've 0:03:57.720 --> 0:03:59.080 got to do is they get on a flight to 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:03.600 take on the Cowboys in Townsville. Outside of that, the 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.800 further the further, saygo is the Titans Ravena. So yeah, 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:09.080 and they do you have a buy in there, like 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.000 Pam said, So it's set up quite nicely. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.920 Reno's back. He got through the game on the weekend. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.080 So yeah, you know it's a game at Suncourt with 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:17.599 the Dolphins. 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.720 Yeah, yeah, you've got darbies, don't you. You've got Dolphins, Cowboys, Titans. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:27.960 They're tough games games. Yeah, you got the Eels. Tough game. Hey, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.480 two points we've got to buy. At the weekend, outstanding? 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.720 You did it without Mitchell Moses ugly. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.840 Why didn't come here to get ridiculed. Well, I've got 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.040 no other choice for it. Hey, what about at the 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:44.040 weekend Nathan Cleary ice in his veins. You saw him 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.159 forty five meters two point field goal. He's back baby. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.560 Although things were a little clunky early, the Dolphins got 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.320 away to a good lead. Some of those passes weren't 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.920 sticking him at a couple of veras Isaac Cataoa the 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:03.360 Glenmore Park. Brumbi was back in penwithh showing his wares 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.880 and basically what Penrith were upset at losing him before 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.040 it actually played a first grade game. You know, the 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:13.880 Dolphins had done their homework and looked into the nursery 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.839 there at Penrith and picked him out, and he showed why. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.320 But Nathan Cleary is still just the man, isn't he 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:20.760 He is? 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.080 He is like if that that game was pretty much 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:25.800 in the balance the whole way through, and it just 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.240 sort of felt like it was inevitable that Nathan Cleary 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:29.960 would come up with a clutch play a two point 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:30.360 film goal. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:31.799 I haven't seen too many of them. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.120 I must say though, And like outside of Canberra, Penrith 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.520 is sort of like, you know, my second favorite team. 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:38.880 Have a bit of a soft spot for them. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.960 You're a grown up, you can have one, I know. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.160 But I was half cheering for the Dolphins, purely for Kutoa. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.160 I just think it would have been a beautiful story. 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.640 It's such a great storyline. Cleary's understudy. It goes to 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.600 Penrith sort of, you know, sinks the panther sinks Cleary 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:55.760 on his return home he had a chance. 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:57.839 He sort of bombed it. He'll learned from that. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.920 He didn't sort of bomb it was I think they 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.680 I think they crept the bed. Sorry that I think 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.080 with a couple of minutes to go ten meters out, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.280 you're not forty five meters out like Nathan clear it was, Yeah, 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.120 there was no one running at you, and instead of 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.839 dropping it over, you kicked for the corner for a 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.200 bomb that hadn't really I know, Jack Boss Dooks eleven 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.559 feet fourteen tall, but take the one point get the game. 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.960 Yeah, went for the glory player. I think instead of 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:24.880 what is safe one, it's. 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.320 A weird one because a field goal thinking Penrith is 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.800 a glory player as well, So I just think, you know, yeah, 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:30.520 he was a. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.080 Bit of a rush of blood probably too, which probably 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.160 carried him all the way through this game. And it 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.400 just kind of tipped over at the end there and 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.000 then Nathan Cleary shows how it's done. It was, Yeah, 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.760 it was so entertaining. Well we but am I that? 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.760 Am I underestimating the Dolphins? Do you guys, what do 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.200 you guys think about them for the rest of this season? 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:51.360 Do you think that they can? 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.520 I think, you know what, I think ken Reth game 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.080 actually showed where they are. And yeah, Penrith they're three 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.440 time premierships, but they were missing their five origin stars. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:00.479 They were missing with Ghana. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.039 They lost paul A Lamotti during that game with a 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:08.000 broken arm, and to me, you know, not disrespecting any 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:09.680 of the Penrith players that came in, but that was 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.640 a team of rookies and pretty much depped players, and 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.640 the Dolphins sort of struggled to really, you know, get 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.320 on over them. So to me, that probably says gives 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.120 you an indication of where the Dolphins are and I 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.480 think the fact that under coach like Wayne Bennett, they 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.280 are probably punching above their weight. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:28.800 I'm just going to call Wayne now, let him know 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.320 what you said. I'm sure really wants to hear it. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.200 I'm would love to hear that a point and like 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.760 losing in Golden Point is rubbing salt in Wayne's Golden Point. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:38.960 Woin. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:43.640 Well, we've sort of said this before off air, that 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.040 that top eight race is so tight. Now the slip 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.800 ups for mine, the Dogs and the Dolphins both looked 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.640 up this round. I think Canby should have beaten the Cowboys. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.480 I don't believe the hype around the Cowboys at the moment. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.160 I think they've got a lot still to prove. They 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.160 They should have been far too good at home. I 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:06.520 know they had a lot of players backing up from them. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:11.560 Didn's terrific, but they're not the same team that made 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.080 the Prelium Final a couple of years ago. They're still 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.120 a long way off it. And that was was a 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.440 chance for the Bulldogs who were and they could struggle 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.920 now a little bit. The Dogs, with their injuries, they've 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.640 got a toughish run home and some injuries to come. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.720 So in that really congested bottom half of the eight 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.720 I don't know you've done a run home before. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.400 Yeah, yeah, so I'm just looking at it right now. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.040 So as far as so for this is what the 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.760 Dolphins for me. So they've got they had the Panthers 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:45.840 obviously lost to the Panthers, and they've got the Titans, Roosters, Warriors, Bulldog, Storm, 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:50.080 Broncos Nights. So I had them winning two of those games, 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:51.640 and I don't. 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.840 But if if it's not going to get in the 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:54.560 top eighties. 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.640 No, no, it's not. No, And that would have them finishing tenth. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.520 So what what about Serroaldo's men? 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.520 So they've they've got a better run, I mean considering 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:05.080 how well done. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.480 So they have Broncos and that's a game because that's 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.040 that's a four point If they can take points off 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.240 the chasing teams, that's that's a great result for them. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:24.079 So they've got Broncos, Raiders, Dragons, Dolphins, Warriors, Manly Cowboys. 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.520 And they're all all in that. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.880 Yeah, so a great run of it, seriously is and 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.319 then four who else? Were we just talking about? 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.479 The Cowboys? 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.679 The Cowboys? So I had the Cowboys finishing eighth, winning 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.920 four of their last seven games. They've got a buy 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.160 as well, So then they have winning three of their 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:48.240 last seven, is that right? Yeah, so three of their 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.160 last six games because they're seven rounds left. Sorry, So 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.040 with the Cowboys here, so they have six games left 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.960 with a buy, they play the Sharks, Tigers, Broncos, Raiders, 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:03.160 Storm and Bulldogs. So yeah, I had them winning three 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.280 of those Sharks, Tigers, Raiders. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:11.640 Yeah, I mean Canby, I mean Cannbry would go confident 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.880 into the Raiders game, even the Dragon's game, the Dolphins, 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.000 the Warriors, even Seagulls might give them some bit of 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.240 trouble Cowboys at the end, they're depending on how all 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.640 the Cowboys going. So I think you know, Canterbury could 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.559 potentially win four of their last. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.240 Yeah. Yeah, Can I get your thoughts too, Can I 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.839 get your thoughts on Manly? They trounced the Titans in 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:36.240 the in the des Hazler Bowl fail on Sunday. They 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.280 were a couple of early tries they were on the 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:43.120 back foot, but then they put the foot on the 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.920 gas and she's a horrendous injury for the eye high 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.680 hop Way. But Luke Brooks's running game came to the four. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:56.600 Tommy Travoyevitch just getting better and better. I wonder are 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.600 they a team to challenge now for the top four 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.800 because they're only they're only just outside it now. There 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.240 are twenty five points the Roosters now that are in 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.880 fourth on twenty six. Mainly if they can take that 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.600 form away from home, potentially could threaten that top four 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.440 and will consider continue my long held stat that there's 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.640 always a team from outside the eight finishes in top 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.360 four the next year. So they're basically my last hope 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.880 for that one. But I don't know, can you believe 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:27.520 mainly or do you think am I reading too much 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:28.839 into a win over their Gold Coast? 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:31.720 Yes? 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.680 I guess there's the home factor as well, but there's 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:39.520 no doubt that Tom Travoi, Bitch, Dse, Loupbrooks, you know, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:43.160 all looked really good on the weekend, and you need 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.360 those three guys to look good if they're going to 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:50.640 really challenge the top four. I mean I almost want them, like, 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.720 you know, Loopbrooks first finals. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:57.400 Let's see what he can do. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.440 Let him loose, Yeah, let's see what he can do. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.360 So, yeah, you want the Street to be broken for 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.000 Luke Brooks Finals Finals appearance. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.920 Yeah, I think he deserves it. I don't know that. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.880 When they're on a roll, they look they just look 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.240 so good and they can pile on so many points. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.840 But yeah, they've just been so inconsistent this year that 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.000 I don't know if I trust them just yet. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.000 Okay, So they are that. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.360 Many outside of Panthers and Storm, and I'm sure we'll 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.240 get it there pretty much aren't that many teams in 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.320 that frame at the moment that I trust. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.160 So they have they play the Roosters this week, by 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:41.000 then Raiders, Warriors, Tigers, Bulldogs, Sharks. So I had them 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.640 winning all of those except for the Roosters game. Wow, 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:44.559 and finishing fourth. 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:49.040 That's that's a big result. That's that's a good draw 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:49.559 for Manly. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.800 Yeah, although yeah, I mean and then if you look 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.600 at how the Rooster's played against the Storm, it would 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.199 probably say they're actually a chance of actually beating the 0:12:58.280 --> 0:12:59.000 Risters as well. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:03.600 Yeah, they're one Tom Traboyvitch Hamstring away from that blowing 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:04.280 up though. 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.880 But let's not put the mock on those. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.360 Well he's big enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure. I'm 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:14.040 sure I'm going to be deciding he w has the difference. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.680 You made a good point the Roosters. What's that record 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:23.400 now against me against Melbourne and Penrith since twenty twenty 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:28.240 one from twenty one from twenty I did say to 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.400 Russell Jackson, our chief of staff, out there before those 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.000 the Roosters mean that they are in fact flat track bullies, 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.360 that they cannot beat the top end of town. But 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.439 if you're a Roosters fan, you've got to be concerned 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.760 that as good as our team looks on paper, they 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.480 were thoroughly outplayed. You know, look at those names there, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:52.400 Jack Howarth, Josh King, Grant Anderson, and no disrespect to 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.640 these guys, but on your reputation, the Roosters went into 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.199 this match favorite. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.440 Anderson had played the game of his life. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:04.280 Yeah, horrific. The storm just and give themselves that little 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:05.880 bit of a barrier at the top now and that 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.760 top in that race for the minor premiership and the 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.600 all important finishing top two to get a home final. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.079 I'd be really disappointed for I was a Rooster's fan 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.360 and wondering whether we've got the ability to go with 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:18.199 these teams. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.200 I did feel that that was a bit flat they 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:21.560 were a bit flat, and I don't know how much 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.240 of that had to do with all the Origin players 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.760 backing up. Obviously Lindsay Collins started off the bench, Spencer 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:27.360 was off the bench. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.040 There's no trade. Were a hard grave. 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:34.200 Brandon Smith probably didn't, you know, in a game like that, 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.640 where there's so many players backing up from Origin, especially 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.400 in the forward pack, you sort of expect him to 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.840 lift a little and didn't get that. He was completely 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:45.240 outgunned by his opposite in Harry Grant. But also they 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.040 had two players in the bin, so that's sixty minutes 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.640 with twelve men against a storm. You know that they're 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.760 going to make going to make you pay. And one 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.960 sort of I think because of their position on the ladder. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.120 One thing that sort of has gone under the radiar 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.560 a little bit with the Roosters this year. Is it 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.000 the most penalized team And we saw. 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:04.160 It from the. 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.040 Especially when they're going, well, we're having a good season. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I always think that might be a tactic, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:14.080 you know, Yeah, I. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.720 Wonder whether that's the case that you know, it's not 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.600 not for sin bins, but if they're happy to give 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.920 away an indiscretion of penalties, or something close to long, 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.120 because it's much easier to defend on a set line. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.600 But the way that Robbo blows up at the referees 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.080 or at certain decisions, I don't know if that's whether 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:37.040 it is a ploy that they genuinely going with, saying, okay, 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.840 we'll we'll back ourselves to defend, but against all. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.440 The timers are trying the same ploy, but it's not 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:42.000 working for them. 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:46.160 No where the Rusters kind of walk that line they 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:46.800 kind of tried. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:48.120 And then you know. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.600 Tom Young sort of great on the on the attacking 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.520 side of the ball, but has really struggled defensively and 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.520 struggled defensively against the Storm like a couple of misreads 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.640 caught out a couple of times. I don't know how much, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.040 you know, if Joey Manu Who's could be back this week. 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:04.560 But probably next week, how much that helps that right edge. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.000 So yeah, there are there are things. You know, luc 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.080 Key probably didn't have his best game in a while. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.560 Sam Walker wasn't as prolific as we know he can be. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.920 So there are some you know, bumps after that Storm game. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:18.280 For the Roosters. 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.800 I would say, yeah, but apparently the one, the one 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.360 from twenty games against Penrith and the Storm, according. 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.120 To Robert, is not psychological. So if it's not psychological, 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:27.800 it's got. 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:34.000 To be they. I wonder whether do they have another 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.680 gear to get to the roosters? Can they find that 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.119 form in the next six weeks? 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.440 Oh, that's a good question. Do they have another gear? 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:43.280 On paper? 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.680 You would have stuff on paper pay if. 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:50.040 You saw that team, you'd go, okay, yeah, you know 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.440 Tedesco Smith, Kirey Walker in the spines, Lenny were hard 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.520 Graves in the pack, Victor Radley, Angus Crichton, who's been 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.800 the form back grower probably up until this game. So 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.879 they should they should talent wise, they should have another. 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.239 Gear, but have a very good draw as well, so 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:13.320 they play manly this week. Dolphins by Para Titans, Raiders Rabbit. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:17.640 O's yeah, winnable, winnable run because let's. 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.639 Say whether or not, like they could you know, theoretically 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.760 win through to the end of the year, and if 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.960 they're serious, they should do that. But then it's whether 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.120 or not they once it gets to you know, week one, 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.040 week two of the finals, like what are they going 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:33.120 to be able to actually. 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.080 Do it this year? I know, history is there to 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.119 be made and broken and whatever else. But if you 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.600 don't finish top four, the odds say you don't win 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.120 the premiership, you know, and that's so top four finishes 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.399 absolutely necessary. So they've got that game against Manly is 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.000 huge as a result they haven't a look at what 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.480 you said about Manly's run home. That's massive for them 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:56.040 now because and no disrespect to the Bulldogs, Dolphins, Careboys, Dragons, Raiders. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.800 All those, they're probably making up numbers. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.040 You're making up numbers when you know you've got a 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.439 Panthers team that continues to win. No dealing, there was 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:07.560 no Brian no leam martin as. They just keep finding 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.959 ways to win. Yeah, they shouldn't probably shouldn't have won 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.359 that game on Sunday, but they still did it. And 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:17.520 then the Storm who they were. There was a crazy 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.159 stat that the tab had earlier this year that they 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.840 were four dollars to finish in the top four. This 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.400 year they started the season four dollars and they haven't 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.800 finished outside of the top four in years and punters 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.320 and fans continue to underestimate them and go, oh, they 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:33.840 can't keep doing can't keep doing it. 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:37.639 But they're two points ahead of Penrith, Like it's one 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.159 of those ones. I think they're going under the rain 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:39.760 a little bit. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.080 Maybe maybe that win against the Roosters sort of put 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.000 them in everybody's front of mine. But I think before then, 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.280 you know, we probably look at the ladder all the time, 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.440 and every time I was like, oh, surprise, Melbourne's four 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:53.879 points ahead, six points ahead. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.560 So I think you look at the team list though, 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.919 and go they shouldn't be doing this. Yeah, they still 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.480 managed to do it. It's incredible, Like you've struggled for 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:08.320 ways to keep talking about it because it's just it's unbelievable. 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:09.920 And a team without Camera Munster for. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.439 The majority of yeah, like you would think, you know, 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.119 taking Camera Monster out of that team, who's obviously, you know, 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.520 one of the best players in the game, so influential, 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.919 and just they just keep winning. 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.359 Well, it hasn't just been Monster, right, They've been with 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.880 that Pappenhausen for mines season. 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.679 Some of their forwards, you know, outside back, so they 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.760 haven't had coats for a few weeks. And then they 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.560 bring in Sawa far Logo, who's got this ridiculous strikerate 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.080 at the moment because he's been coming off the bench 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.200 last couple weeks. I think he's got two tries last 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:42.680 week from three runs and one try on the weekend 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.520 from two runs. 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.560 So he's a he's a freak. 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.200 So and he might get a chance with Anderson going 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.480 down with the knee injury. So I hold you say 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:54.640 to talk about far logo, even though he is sort 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:58.200 of seen as a fullback, that he could probably get 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.359 the job done on the wing as well. So yeah, 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:05.760 you know, even Jack Harworth, I remember about twelve eighteen 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.400 months ago talking to people around the club about him, 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.800 and I was sort of a little bit tentative about 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.480 his development, sort of a little bit worried about his development, 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.120 and all of a sudden, he's been given a shot, 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:16.480 and yeah. 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.440 Well let's put that into perspective. So when that conversation 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:23.399 first happened, he was one of I think five players 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.199 in the game it even been fired that had that 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.480 were locked down for five year deals. He hadn't even 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.359 played first grade yet, and he was one of the 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:32.159 guys who was locked down the longest of anyone in 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:36.359 the competition, and just they kept going next, next man up, 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:38.520 next man up, and we didn't see Jack Howarth, and 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:42.040 he was playing on the edge for the Sunshine Coast Falcons, 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:43.960 whether it was back row or center, and we never 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.720 quite saw him. And then he got that chance last 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.320 year when the storm basically rested everyone and put him 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.240 in said okay, well here he is, and sort of 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:54.399 went okay. But it seems it was Fandy's feet this year. Yeah, 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:55.639 it was really interesting. 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:59.119 Ability don't they just to have the right timing for 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.240 these players and not really throw them in before they're 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.840 ready or yeah, yeah, they're incredible. 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.440 But not only that they didn't give up on him. 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.960 Would have been other clubs who would have gone, maybe 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:12.000 we pulled the wrong rain here signing him on like 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.480 a long term like five year deal. He hasn't come 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:16.399 through yet, but they persisted on. 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.880 Good money too. Yeah. So, and but he's been a 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.680 success story. Just I said, the patience of the storm 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:27.400 and bringing these guys through making the right choices terrific. 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:28.560 I want it. 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.040 I was just going to say, so we will were 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.840 we going to talk about, like Penrith, who who's the 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:35.520 favorite now, Penrith or Melbourne? 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.160 What do we think after. 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:43.919 Seeing Nathan Cleary and knowing that he's pretty much close 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.760 to being at his best again, maybe he was a 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.120 little bit rusty on the weekend. 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.879 They're so hard to go past. They're so hard to 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:53.280 go past. 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:55.400 Penrith after just having a crack at all the critics 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:59.800 for refusing, for refusing to acknowledge Melbourne and for underestimating them, 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.960 to underestimate them again, say Penrith, Because yeah, I will 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:04.320 say this. 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.359 I think if Penrith don't win the Grand Final this year, 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.679 it'll be a while before they win another title. 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:15.360 Oh god, jeez, what time is that ten thirty eight 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:19.040 on the AIG state saying. 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:20.840 That they won't be top four, that they won't be 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:25.120 title contenders. I just think people will underestimate the loss 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.359 of Fisher Harris, underestimate the loss of the Wis. I 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:29.920 like the underestimated the loss of Stephen Crichton, I reckon 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:34.679 a little bit. So I think losing those guys because 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:37.159 when you think about it, there's been some good forwards 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.480 coming through, like the Lindsay Smiths, and we've heard stuff 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.040 about Jack Cole and the rest of it. 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:44.359 In the halves, but the gap between them feels like 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:46.720 too big to breach. 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.800 So I'm like Michael Jordan the Last Dance, You're the 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.440 champs until you're beaten. And that's the way I kind 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:55.199 of look at Penrith. I think that I will not 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:57.879 back against them winning the title until someone knocks them 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.720 over because I just think they've got all the tools there. 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:02.880 We'll find out in round twenty four when they play 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:03.280 each other. 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:05.520 Oh yeah, Melbourne. 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.360 Yeah, this game of the year so far. 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.159 I can't make a segue to the next topic. But 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:14.800 you're looking at the run sheets, so that's why you're 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.560 That's why you're giggling about Paramata. 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:19.840 How's that? 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.280 So we make that missile sound. 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:24.760 I'll give you a segue. What Penrith? I don't think 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:26.960 Paramatta will win a title in a very long time? 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.960 Wow, can I get Jason Ryle's on the phone for 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:35.360 that conversation? So Buzz Rothfield reporting that the Eels will 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.240 undergo a major overhaul under Jason Roles. We knew that 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:41.080 was going to happen. But Buzz saying that he's considering 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:45.200 naming state of origin hero Mitchell Moses, who by the way, 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.280 gave up sacrificed his body for this state, so I 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.320 show a little bit more respect for paramatter everybody. As 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.680 the new skipper to replaced Clint Garthason and obviously junior 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:59.359 Barlow and Gutho were at co captains and saying that 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:04.080 Gotho could be under pressure to retain that fullback role 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:07.359 with talk that Blaze Telang will be offered that role 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:11.520 and the indicating that interim coach Trent Barrett won't be 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:16.960 offered a role under Jason. Roles and roles in Trent 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.600 Barrett are actually close, you know, was his captain? 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:19.840 Was he? 0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:24.480 Yeah? From their drag and stutus So interesting, But thoughts. 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:29.159 On that, I think it's probably a change that needs 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:31.720 to happen, right Like we've we've talked about, you know, 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:37.199 the big personalities at Paramatta and the the lack of 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.879 leadership within some of those senior players at the moment, 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.720 Maybe just to change is exactly what they need in 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.160 just shaking things up. I don't think anything the way 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.280 that they've gone this year, anything could be should be 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:54.840 guaranteed either point. So they realize that something massive needs 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:57.960 to change because they have a lot of talent on 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:02.240 that roster, something needs to to shift to get them 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.400 going a little bit. So if it's Midge Moses as 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.160 captain and the easy halfback, it kind of makes sense. 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.120 To me, it's not controversial. 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:11.240 I mean, I guess it. 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.080 Yeah, he is the half back and it does make 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:19.520 sense in that way, But how much difference is as 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:21.919 a captain is he going to be then Clink Guthison. 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:25.520 It's just taking I wonder if it's just taking a 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:31.439 little bit of not heat or it's just taking a 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.879 little bit of that the eyes off Clint Guthison at 0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.600 the back and potentially framing him for a move somewhere else. 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:42.040 Whether or not, I don't necessarily think maybe out of 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:43.760 the club, but just out of fullback. 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.040 I think out of fullback is And I'm going to 0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:49.160 preface this by saying I love Gutho as a player. 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:51.320 I think he's Guo. 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.760 Is one of the most underrated. Yeah, Like I know, 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.200 he's had his moments and he's been picked in Origin 0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.400 and he's played in the Grand Final, But in terms 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:01.400 of like effort, I think he's one of the most 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:02.360 underrated players. 0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.800 In a gain. Yeah, he's talking at the back, he's positioning. 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:07.760 It's all there in saying that the Eels are still 0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:11.200 running sixteenth and I'm not that's not saying you put 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.040 it down to one person, but you know, we go 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.320 back twelve months when the Eels were looking for X 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.439 factor and they were talking about Jayden Campbell and they 0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:20.800 were talking about where do we find this guy. You've 0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.800 got Blaze to Lungey there, who's who did not take 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.440 up his player option for next season, so he's able 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.959 to go and other clubs are clamoring for him. You, 0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.600 if you're Jason Rowls, you need to keep Blaze to Lungey. 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:35.080 And because he if that, that will be a massive 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.680 loss for a club that's already you know, I can 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.560 handle losing Ethan Sanders to Canberra because Ethan Sanders is 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.840 just a seven. I'm not saying that he's just a seventh, 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:48.840 but he's a halfback. So you've got Mitch Moses ahead 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.679 of you. You want first grade, You're not going to 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:53.040 get it there at the moment. Enough Blaze to Lungey 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:54.280 can play around the place. 0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.680 You're not the halves if they need to reshuffle. 0:26:57.920 --> 0:26:59.879 Yeah, and so you want to keep him at all 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.720 Hoss and he's got a younger brother, Rider who just 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:09.960 got named in the schoolboys Schoolboys Championships and playing prop. 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.960 His dad coaches at Cabramatta in the area. He's as 0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:16.440 paramatter as it gets so you need to you need 0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.760 to keep him. And the fact that Gotho, he's twenty nine, 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.520 will be thirty when next season starts. But he's a 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.800 guy that had a couple of knee surgeries, and you 0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.640 do a lot of effort at the back at Paramatta 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:28.400 in a lot of wars. 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.840 You say, I don't think if that move does happen 0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.080 next year and Gutho goes into the centers and too 0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.320 long he goes it goes into fullback, I don't think 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:40.280 that's necessarily like a controversial move or even like you know, 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.320 not a massive call by Roles anyway. I just feel 0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.959 like it's probably a natural progression from Gotho considering the 0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.440 toll that the work rate, that the effort has taken 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.800 on his body, particularly this year. And I remember speaking 0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:56.280 to Gutho maybe right before Brad Arthur was was sacked, 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.200 and he was just talking about how, you know, because 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.320 he does everything at a hire percent, training is always 0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.040 at one hundred percent, one hundred and ten percent. 0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.480 He never takes a backward step, never takes you. 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:08.200 Know, an off day. He's one of the fittest guys. 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:09.919 And this year is sort of the first time with 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.639 that knee injury, he's sort of gone, Okay, where I 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.320 can I need to rest my body, I need to 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:17.320 take a step back a little bit, so and maybe 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.159 moving him out of that fullback role where he is 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.600 one hundred and ten percent every single week might actually 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:25.040 help preserve and prolong his body. So I don't think 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.720 it's like a moving te LUNGI there. Like you said, 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.119 who's this sort of viewed as the X factor that 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:34.680 Power have been looking for. Isn't as controversial as people 0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:35.320 might think. 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.480 So I don't think yeah. I just I don't think yeah. 0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.000 I don't think it is. I think they need a 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.160 little bit of like a spark, like some speed something 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.680 in that back line. And as we said, like Gotho 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.680 is a warrior. But if he's still in the team, 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:55.239 that's great. He's still going to be working out, he's 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.520 still going to be everywhere. He's still he's still going 0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.120 to be setting a lot of those standards. 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.400 While we're sitting in the Maddie John's podcast feed for 0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.600 the next couple of weeks, I see this question. Maddie 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.240 and his column pitched up moving Gutho to five eighth. 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.920 The partner Mitch Moses and then Dylan Brown to thirteen, 0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.080 so he could play both sides of the ruck and attack. 0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:19.200 What are your thoughts on that one? H, I don't know, 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:24.720 Dylan Brown, No, I think that's the halfs combination, right, Yeah, 0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.480 I feel like Dyl Brown and yeah, and Midge's that's 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:28.360 the Halves combination. 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:32.440 Yeah. I feel like Dyl Brown is. 0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.520 Only just we've seen sort of glimpses of how good 0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.520 he can be, and he's only just sort of scratching 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:39.840 the surface of his potential. 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.000 And I don't know if I'm an IELs fan. 0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:47.160 We've signed him long term to be, you know, Mitchell 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.960 Moses Halves partner. I sort of want to see what 0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:56.480 you get for that money. So defensively, I don't know. 0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.640 Defensively is then the other question you have to ask 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.760 is these days mostly are the glue in the defensive line. 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.760 So yeah, Well, Maddie's thoughts around that were that he 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.600 like he'd like to see Dylan both sides of the 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:11.680 ruck getting the ball. He thinks he'd be really dangerous, 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:13.880 kind of the role that we thought Calen Pongher might 0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:18.280 play in Origin three last week, which didn't really eventuate. Defensively, 0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.520 I raised that same question with him, and he said, well, 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.720 back in the old days, the locks used to just 0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.040 defend three in from the sideline anyway, so you could 0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.800 have your winger, your center, and then you know whether 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.000 you put your your five eight there and then he 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.800 defends one in next to maybe a Jermaine Hopgood or 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.720 someone who may be forced to an edge there, or 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.720 Ryan Madison if he's still there amid this clean out, 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.560 that roles will go through because you know, Madison's defended 0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.480 in the middle. Hopgods defended in the middle, so Dylan 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:50.280 Brown wouldn't necessarily be out of Place'll be a switch 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:51.080 a little bit, but. 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.760 Interesting the creativity, and I think they probably do need 0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:57.959 a little bit of a switch up in how that 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.480 forward pack plays as well, like some different body shapes. 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:04.600 And it's been quite the same for a little while now, has. 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:05.160 It, you know? 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.600 They Yeah, they probably do need someone that has that 0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.080 real ball playing ability and can kind of roam around 0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:16.760 a little bit. Yeah, I like it from creativity. I 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:17.000 don't know. 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:18.080 You don't sound sold. 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:25.200 I'm not sold. Yeah, jeez, are you sold? What you 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:26.400 feels fair? 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.120 I think there needs to be a shake up lot. 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.880 You said something has to change because stale is not 0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.200 the right word, but it's like you said, there's been 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:38.200 a lot of similar types and similar roles and yeah, 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.840 you look at I know there everyone's saying that Paramotter's 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.600 roster is you know, it's better than a Wooden spoon roster, 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.360 which they're currently fighting for, but I don't know if 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.719 it's as strong as some people make out at times. 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.600 So even though there's guys, you know, Sean Lane was 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:55.840 Player of the Year a couple of years ago, Jamain 0:31:55.960 --> 0:32:00.000 Hopgods had had some you know, since coming from penrith's 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.520 been good. We've spoken about the Halves and Gutho, but 0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.320 number nine is still a big issue there for mine 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.480 whether Matt Arthur continues to developing that role or they 0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.680 have to go out and find somebody. But there's no 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.760 one on the market, is there. Where do you go 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.200 and find these guys? And there's a forward pack that's 0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.720 getting getting old really quickly, and all of a sudden 0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:22.480 you're going to go, oh, hang on, You've got these 0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.120 younger guys at other clubs that are making those yards 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.840 and punching holes and you're seeing what the Spencer Lenus 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.160 of the world are doing in the Origin arena going, okay, 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.000 well where's that at Para and Eels have these young 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:39.960 guys of Charlie Geimer, the kid from Tomorrow is terrific. Yeah, 0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:45.640 Tovadi coming through the you know, young PreK coming through. 0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.040 So they've got these guys. But I think a little bit. 0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:51.880 When they're in their late teens too, it's sort of 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.400 different to bloodying, like an outside back who's at eighteen. 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.080 But then like, and I know that you say, are 0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:02.160 the forward pack sort of aging quickly? But I'm just 0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.440 thinking off the top of my headn't like Junior Paulo 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:06.280 and Reagan Campbell guard thirty. 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:08.640 Thirty? Yeah? 0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:09.960 Maybe even yeah like that. 0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:14.080 I mean, if you're in your late twenties, you know, thirty, 0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.840 that's sort of where you're supposed to be peaking. 0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.160 At a forward right, but not maybe aging isn't even 0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.760 the right word. It's like they've their ceiling. Has the 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:22.960 reached ceiling? 0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:24.160 Yeah? 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:28.840 Yeah, yeah, Jinnia Paulo's thirty you know, Yeah, I don't know, 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:33.280 I don't. I think you keep you keep Dylan Brown 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.680 and Mitch Moses as your hearts and if you want 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.680 Brown to roam both sides of the rock, why not 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.840 roam both sides of the rock. You know, this idea 0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.520 that one half has to play one side of the 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.000 field and the other on the other side of the field. 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:50.040 I mean even Penrath sort of have a similar setup. 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.760 But if either Jerome Luai or Nathan Cleary, you know, 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:55.720 if there's a set play or they see something, you 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.600 see them, you know, breaking on both sides of the field. 0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.040 So there's no reason why Dylan Browns a runner, right, 0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:02.760 There's no reason why he couldn't sort of take on 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:03.120 that role. 0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:05.040 It's going to be fascinating to see what Jason Rowles 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:05.360 does with that. 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:07.800 What do you make a bar to being there? Sorry 0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:08.839 to interrupt, Oh, that's okay. 0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:10.760 I was just going to say. I spoke to Gotha 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:12.520 a couple of weeks ago about all of this, and 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.239 he was very open to everything. He realizes that there's 0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.040 going to be a big change, and there needs to 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.839 be because he just wants to win. Whatever they're doing 0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.440 at the moment, he's not working. They just want to win, 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:26.040 So come in, shake it up, do something new because 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:26.960 it's not working. 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.240 Because it's funny. Obviously, he's got a good pedigree. Jason Roles, 0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.160 having coached under some of the best, but we haven't 0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.719 seen him with his own team. He hasn't been a 0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.840 reserve grade coach where you've seen the system or the 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.000 style that he's playing. So it's going to be interesting 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:44.640 to see what differences he implements from where he's been previously. 0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.480 You know, roosters and storm and. 0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.880 Every really advantage for the Eels early next year because 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.120 it makes it hard for opposition coaches to prepare for 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:55.799 them because they don't know what they're going to get 0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:57.600 well to adjust them. 0:34:57.719 --> 0:34:58.480 I'm just wishful. 0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.080 I'm just get ready for spoon ball around twenty seven 0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.040 against the Tigers at Campbelltown. 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:06.239 Oh, that's gonna be so much fun. 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:11.560 Oh can we just staple Mitch Moses's biceps back together 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.560 just for that last game? Something? 0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:14.319 Probably could. 0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:16.760 He's done his job this year exactly. 0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:18.680 Yeah, he's earned his rest, thanks so much. 0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.480 The other thing we're going to talk today is Buyers 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:26.640 of the Year. Yeah, six rounds ago, we've seen everybody 0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:30.399 in their place value for money. Who's you'll pick from 0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:30.920 this season? 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:32.520 Definitely Stephen Crichton. 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:33.839 Yeah. 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.160 I think I think I probably did, along with a 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:41.000 lot of other people, underestimate his leadership abilities. And maybe 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.399 it was just because he was so there's so many 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.799 you know, big leaders in big personalities over a pan 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.160 refew and you know, superstars who kind of take the 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.120 spotlight and maybe it took him stepping out of that 0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.600 to really step into his full potential. But I just 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.160 think he's been amazing this year with what he's been 0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:00.440 able to do at the Bulldogs and obviously you know 0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.640 for New South Wales as well. He's only young, what 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.839 is he twenty three or something? Yeah, like just so 0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:10.839 much potential in him, such a long, exciting future. So yeah, 0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:11.919 I think crazy good. 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:14.839 Yeah yeah, yeah, not to be boring, but I think 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:16.040 it's going to be stupid Crichton. 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:17.359 But just in. 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:22.000 Terms of you know that the influence that he seemed 0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.000 to have on that Cannaby team, you know, like Siro 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.839 was looking for that leadership, is looking for. 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:27.680 That winning culture. 0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.160 You know, that's what turns things around, right, winning culture, 0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.320 and it takes the right guy with the right winning culture. 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.600 I mean we heard the stories about him straight after Origin, 0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.239 how he's up at five am in recovery making sure 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.880 he can back up, and he's just such an the 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:42.040 ultimate competitor. 0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:43.760 Yeah, you know, so. 0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.359 He's so likable as well, just such a good guy. 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.600 He's just a lovely kind of guy. 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:55.279 Yeah, yeah, well what about throw it differently. He'll be 0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.919 farm Worth for the fact that he's been really good 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.839 at the Dolphins left side, there's been tremendous, but also 0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:06.040 how much Brisbane have struggled without him. They've lacked some 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.960 punch and I know Dean Marin has shown little bits 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:10.120 of it and I think he's going to be a 0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:13.040 really good first grader. But I think they've massively missed. 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.279 You know, when the Dolphins announced Toby farm Worth and 0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:21.879 Tom Flegler basically the start of last season, they were 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.800 good signings. By the time we got to the Grand Final, 0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.080 they were great signings because of the seasons they've had 0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.800 and obviously Flegler's shoulder injury with that nerve, that scary 0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:35.760 nerve is concerned, but obviously good news. On the weekend, 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.480 Peter Badell reporting that probably won't play again this season 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.279 but could be right again for next season, that the 0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:46.480 nerve in that shoulder is not dead. But I think 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.640 for what he's for, what Broncos have lacked without him 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.040 shows what a signing that he's been for them. 0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.719 Yeah, he has the other one, I would say, and 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:58.280 this is probably more recently that we've sort of seen 0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.839 what he's future might be, like, it's Spencer Lanu. Yeah, 0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:04.880 because I remember when he signed with the Roosters. I 0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.400 was like, isn't he just going from Penrith to the 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.560 Roosters to be another bench player like that sort of 0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:12.800 didn't make sense to me. And he built a reputation 0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.399 as one of the best impact forwards, right But now 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:17.440 you see him and you think, okay, you know, and 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.319 he's got the crazy eyes on and he's running from 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.879 the back fence like this. He might be the guy 0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.759 who you know, Jared hands over the mantle too. And 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.600 I know they've got guys like toll May and there's 0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.279 Ninsey Collins there, but there's just something a little bit 0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:32.600 different about Spence. He gives me the Jared hard Graves 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.640 spiritual leader vibes. So he's another one who I think 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:39.600 has in the last you know, four five, six weeks, 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:41.799 has been incredible. 0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:45.320 Some of the other ones we got here, so Nathan 0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.360 Brown obviously it's been great for her Manly Tommy Tallau 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:55.240 has been to con Tracy, Jean Blais good at the Storm, 0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:57.439 So I was really excited to see what he could 0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.000 do at Melbourne. Like he's just been one of the 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.960 those kids who has had a really tough run of injury. 0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.359 He's had you know, a cl here, a cl there, 0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.080 and then just didn't quite get moving at the Tigers 0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.480 after he came from Penrith and then going down to Melbourne. 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.759 You just you know, anyone who's going to go into 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.440 that Melbourne system, they're going to get the best out 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:17.680 of them. 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:19.920 So we West Tigers, what are you doing. I know 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:21.719 you've got I know you've got a lot of young 0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.439 forwards there and you've you know, you've got papaly Ian 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.920 Klamor and Bateman or whatever. But number one, if the 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.640 Melbourne Storm interest in one of your players, have another 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.920 look at him. You remember his debut, Seawan Blall was 0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:35.960 up against Paramatta and he had a run in with 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.319 Nathan Brown is on this list and they interviewed him 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.400 off of the game and he basically said, how good this? 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.160 I love this? That was awesome and he was so excited. 0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.080 I love the way he plays and he's just add 0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.480 him to another list of on that list of players 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.879 the Tigers let go because it's basically a player swat 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:55.560 with Justin Olam, and I don't think Olam's proved value 0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:56.920 for money as he's. 0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:58.040 Injured, he's had it. 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.360 He's sort of I think he carried a knee injury 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:04.440 to the Tigers and that's probably something that he's had 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.160 to manage to be there. 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:10.840 Ye swat but as yeah. 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.320 But so if he did the Tigers know about that 0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:16.920 when they were I don't know. I just concerns. Yeah, anyway, 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:18.600 we'll see, We'll see what they do next year because 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.719 I was really I was gave a little cheer on 0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:25.120 the weekend when Lucky Galvin tallon de Silver Dream Buller 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.040 and that's the future for the Tigers. Those three guys 0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:30.879 that was they linked up for that try and I thought, 0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:33.120 oh god, there's just there's something that they might have 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.640 been able to do something. At the weekend, as a 0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:40.200 Paramatta fan been fearing the spoon, I was found myself 0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:43.200 cheering out of my seeking what to try. But there's 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:46.000 some talent there. They just need to They need drum 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.360 Leui there as soon as possible, and they need a 0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:52.920 full off season to find their identity and figure out 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:53.239 to win. 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:55.400 They still haven't figured that out. Yet, which is a 0:40:55.440 --> 0:41:01.040 fair enough assessment. As brutal as it sounds, what's. 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:02.719 Are we up to our stint of what are you watching? 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:04.200 Or do we have anything else? We've gone through it? 0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:06.880 You can lead this away. This is like MC's questions 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:08.520 because it sounds like you're right in the way. 0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:10.360 I am absolutely not. 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:12.799 I'm probably out of our normal crew. The one who 0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.719 isn't the movie buff. I am currently watching super Cell, 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.000 which is on Netflix, and I really don't know how 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:25.359 to describe it other than like a London based superhero. 0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.480 Superhero TV series. 0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:37.399 It's very bringeable, very watchable. So basically it's a bunch 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:41.280 of Londoners who somehow start discovering that they've got superpowers. 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:44.040 But I'm not up to the I think what I 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.360 begin to figure out is there superpowers, a superpowers somehow 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.480 based on sickle cell, which is a disease that mostly 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:55.319 only effects black people. But I haven't gone that far 0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.319 ahead yet though. There's like a parallel storyline about that. 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:00.680 But it's really cool, so it's like pretty much like 0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:06.200 a superhero movie. Interesting, it's a new wage superhero movie. 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:11.799 Yeah, I'm not we spoke about with ready. I just 0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.200 started watching. I started watching the Boys and that was 0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:19.560 the my new intro into superhero stuff. So is it good? 0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.600 It's enjoy Yeah, yeah, it's fun. 0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:26.960 Yeah good. I just started watching so House of Dragon, 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.160 so we wanted to save it up for a couple 0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:32.560 of weeks, just so that we could binge it over 0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:35.759 a couple of days. So I think five episodes in 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:39.320 or so yep, and loving this. I was a big 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.239 Game of Thrones fan and loved the first season of 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:45.600 House of Dragon as well. And this has been Yeah, 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.960 this has been great. This is actually encouraging me to 0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:51.719 go back. We finished episode five I think last night, 0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:53.560 and then went back and started watching some more. 0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:55.720 Someone told me it's better than season one. 0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:56.480 Definitely. 0:42:56.800 --> 0:43:01.440 Yeah, they said it was almost Game of Thrones level. 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:08.600 Yeah, there's more, there's a lot more action, would you say, yeah, yeah. 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.759 This happens two hundred years before the events of Game 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:16.200 of Thrones, so it's kind of setting up or the 0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.319 kind of the battle for the for the Throne. But 0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:23.439 lots of dragons, which you know, I love. I hate 0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:29.520 when they make the dragons fight the big sky puppies. Yeah, 0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.279 but it's it's really good. Loving it. If you're a 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.480 Game of Thrones fan, you haven't dived into it. Yeah, 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:36.960 dive into this one. It's really good. 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:40.560 Right. Well, I've got kids off on school holidays at 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.520 the moment, so they're annoying me and wanting to watch stuff. 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.920 But we're doing disaster movies at the moment. We did 0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:48.520 Agedin at the weekend, so nice. 0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.280 Yeah, it was good to have a list of disaster 0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:52.400 movies that you're gonna watch. 0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:54.440 We've we just sit there and pick off it. If 0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.440 anyone's got any suggestions. Adam dot Mobs at news dot 0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:00.520 com that au we've gone through everything with the kids. 0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.640 We've gone through We went through Labyrinth and all the 0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:08.040 great goonies and eighties movies. We've done the Day after Tomorrow, 0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:11.880 we've done all the Jurassic Parks and so now disaster 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:15.560 movies of this genre we're going back through again because 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.960 I figured we're going to go and see Twisters or 0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.959 once it comes in onto you know, because we haven't 0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.440 seen the original Twister yet, so we might do Twister 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.960 and the Twisters. Yeah, because I know about you, but 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.719 where I'm saying with you is binging. We sort of 0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:32.640 leave things until there. But yeah, oh the yeah, and 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:34.839 especially thinking Bruce Willis at the moment with what he's 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.080 going through with his health battles. I love watching Bruce 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:38.000 Willis movie. 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:42.440 So have you done the Diehards? No, too hectic for 0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:42.880 the kids. 0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:44.880 Maybe it might be a little bit a bit of 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.400 language in there that gets to them as well. So 0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.400 then I'm quite old enough for that. But yeah, that's 0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:51.960 that's where we are. But any suggestions center through because 0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:54.080 I like the fact that I'm bringing the kids up 0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.560 as movie buffs a little bit, so they do a little. 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.680 Bit of education, hope for the next gen. 0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.600 Yeah, although we're Wilson was in there. They said, oh 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:07.040 that's the guy from not at the Museum. Yeah, yes, 0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:08.840 he was sodding crashes. 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:13.920 No, no, no, that's not yet he was. 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:14.760 Yeah, that's. 0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:24.440 That's what read his favorite quote of the I just yeah, goodness, great, well, gods, 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.400 this has been terrific. It's nice to be back. Yeah, 0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:30.960 the new set. Yeah, I'll be giving out schools at 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:31.520 the end of the week. 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:32.839 So three two one. 0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:34.919 This is just as good as a trip to Paris, 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:35.359 isn't it. 0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:35.640 Oh? 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.040 I know, is anyone getting any sleep in the next 0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:39.080 couple of weeks or yes? 0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:43.399 No, no, because we have NRLW starts on Thursday as well, 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.760 so huge. Yeah, gonna be a big. 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:48.560 Couple of Make sure you go and check out PM's 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.719 Top fifty Players, which is coming out in Tuesday's papers 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:54.120 and online. 0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.239 Club by Club Club by Club guy if you haven't 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:56.799 seen that yet. 0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:01.759 Yeahurday Games. Tell me what I've got wrong. 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.600 Yeah, although I look at you number one, I'm happy 0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:05.799 with that. 0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.640 I thought it was Yeah, okay, don't real people have 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:10.040 to go see it. 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.400 Yeah, I get stressed about those things. 0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:15.240 There's a lack of Eels representation in there, but maybe 0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:18.680 that was probably complicit with when they went last season. 0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:23.600 Yeah, well there's a couple you think of three yes, yeah, yeah. 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:27.880 Thanks for stopping by, everyone, and we'll see you for 0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:29.239 Thursday's podcast.