WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 3 March

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<v Speaker 1>Late General Man, Welcome to the Late Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storra and Caleb Bond coming

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<v Speaker 3>up tonight. One of the fastest retractions you will ever

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<v Speaker 3>see an American TV host smears Elon Musk and then

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<v Speaker 3>just a couple of minutes later issues a groveling apology

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<v Speaker 3>that in.

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<v Speaker 2>A short time plus.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll look at what's making news tomorrow, including Victorian police

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<v Speaker 3>to lower recruitment academic standards in order to try to

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<v Speaker 3>get new offices on board, and the famous racing track

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<v Speaker 3>Mount Panorama could be off limits to the public after

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<v Speaker 3>an Indigenous group claims it's a sacred site and not

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<v Speaker 3>for Ford or Holden.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll look at that a bit later as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But first, Australian childcare centers and schools will later this

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<v Speaker 3>month celebrate Harmony Day. Personally, looking at the education standards

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<v Speaker 3>of our kids, I wish they'd just focus on reading,

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<v Speaker 3>writing and arithmetic, but they're going to do Harmony Day

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<v Speaker 3>and as part of that on March twenty first, kids

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<v Speaker 3>will try different foods, they'll wear costumes from different cultures,

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<v Speaker 3>sing different songs and the whole idea is to sort

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<v Speaker 3>of experience and understand the cultural backgrounds of other kids

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<v Speaker 3>in the class. Harmony Day fairly innocious, you would have thought,

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<v Speaker 3>But not so according to the Australian Human Rights Commission,

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<v Speaker 3>who've labeled Harmony Day a cover for racism.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>They say kids shouldn't be celebrating each other. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>they should be learning about how our nation was built

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<v Speaker 3>on racism. Because in seventeen eighty eight white people arrived

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<v Speaker 3>from Britain, Indigenous groups were disenfranchised, and that's what our

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<v Speaker 3>children need to be learning about, because structural racism continues

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<v Speaker 3>until this day.

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<v Speaker 2>Goodness me.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to talk about structural racism its structures like

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<v Speaker 3>the Australian Human Rights Commission that are part of that

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<v Speaker 3>if it exists. Listen to what they said in a

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<v Speaker 3>report about Harmony Day to schools. This is their device

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<v Speaker 3>I quote. The problem with Harmony Day is that the

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<v Speaker 3>focus on harmony can gloss over racism.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>You can have too much harmony. It can stop people

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<v Speaker 3>from discussing it. This is for childcare centers. Or it

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<v Speaker 3>can cause people to think that speaking up upsets the

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<v Speaker 3>idea of a harmonious Australian society. It distracts from recognizing

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<v Speaker 3>and addressing the harm that racism causes to communities. The

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<v Speaker 3>Australian Human Rights Commission putting the harm back into harmony.

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<v Speaker 3>Harmony is a distraction, they claim, a distraction from what

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<v Speaker 3>from what they would love to be doing, which is

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<v Speaker 3>training our children in the fine arts of grievance and guilt.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, all the colored kids can feel aggrieved and

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<v Speaker 3>all the white kids should feel guilty. To that end,

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<v Speaker 3>the Australian Human Rights Commission wish to rename Harmony Day

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<v Speaker 3>the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination and

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<v Speaker 3>push that through our Kindi's caleb, these guys are nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you can just imagine the kids go, oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, I can't wait to celebrate the International Day

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<v Speaker 4>for the Elimination of Racial Discriminations.

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<v Speaker 1>Say it once and say it tries with the kid.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, seriously, the idea of Harmony Day is that

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<v Speaker 4>we love our neighbors and we recognize that we all

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<v Speaker 4>live together in one country and let's all get along

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<v Speaker 4>because that's a nice way to live. That's not good enough,

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<v Speaker 4>because the point here what they've actually led out of

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<v Speaker 4>the cat they have led out of the bag is

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<v Speaker 4>that none of it is really about harmonizing all of us.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've made this point before when we talk about

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<v Speaker 4>reconciliation when it comes to Indigenous people, we're told we

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<v Speaker 4>must achieve reconciliation, which, if you follow the definition of

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<v Speaker 4>reconcile the prefix to reconciliation, it means that we come

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<v Speaker 4>together and we come to some sort of agreement on

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<v Speaker 4>what has happened before, and now we move together as

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<v Speaker 4>one will know that's not what they want. They don't

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<v Speaker 4>want us to live in harmony. They don't want us

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<v Speaker 4>to reconcile. They want to con genuinely point out the differences.

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<v Speaker 4>The point is not to achieve harmony. The point isn't

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<v Speaker 4>even to end racial discrimination, because of course there is

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<v Speaker 4>no literal end to racial discrimination if you follow this

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<v Speaker 4>to its logical conclusion, because there are never enough reparations

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<v Speaker 4>that can be paid for the alleged racial discrimination that

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<v Speaker 4>has occurred before you were even a glint in your

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<v Speaker 4>father's eye. What they want is to divide us, and

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<v Speaker 4>they've got to start with the kids, because imagine if

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<v Speaker 4>the kids start thinking that it's all hunky dory that

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<v Speaker 4>we can all live together in harmony in the one country. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>then you don't have a racism industry anymore, do you.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the Human Rights Commission basically peddling critical race theory,

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<v Speaker 5>even on toddlers, being like, you're doing a terrible job,

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<v Speaker 5>but we're not talking about harmony. We want to teach

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<v Speaker 5>them from infancy, the politics of grievance, identity politics. How

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<v Speaker 5>are all so divided? And like you say, the black

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<v Speaker 5>kids can then feel aggrieved because they've just learned about

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<v Speaker 5>the injustices of the past. None of their generation is

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<v Speaker 5>responsible for or ours, let us not forget, And then

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<v Speaker 5>all the white kids can be like, oh, for heaven's sake,

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<v Speaker 5>I had no idea. We're here thanks to all the

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<v Speaker 5>dreadful things that we've done. Why would you want to

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<v Speaker 5>feel little kids' heads with this. I'm actually not in

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<v Speaker 5>favor of Harmony Day either, because this is teaching race

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<v Speaker 5>theory of a different kind, telling these kids, oh, he's

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<v Speaker 5>perfectly normal and good and wholesome and right, and everyone

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<v Speaker 5>should be doing it. This idea of multi culturalism, which

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<v Speaker 5>I've said before and will continue to say it is

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<v Speaker 5>a farce. A multi ethnic society absolutely but a society

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<v Speaker 5>that doesn't work, which we discuss every other night for

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<v Speaker 5>different reasons on this show and all the others. A

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<v Speaker 5>society that doesn't have a cohesive culture, a society that

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't rally around at least one particular religion anymore. No, No,

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<v Speaker 5>we want these kids to understand that despite having cultures

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<v Speaker 5>that clash, religions that are completely at odds with each other,

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<v Speaker 5>inherently held values hailing from those incredibly different cultures, we're

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<v Speaker 5>all just a melting pot and we should all get

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<v Speaker 5>together in harmony. Don't We talk about every single night

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<v Speaker 5>how this isn't working so well, especially in light of

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<v Speaker 5>what's playing out currently in the Middle East. It's simply

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<v Speaker 5>not true. So whether you're teaching kids' critical race theory

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<v Speaker 5>or harmony, harmony, it's all about harmony. Multiculturalism is amazing,

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<v Speaker 5>and all culturals, all cultures are equal. No they're not.

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<v Speaker 5>All people are equal, yes, but all cultures absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 5>Kids should be told our culture is the best. That's

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<v Speaker 5>how you raise little patriots who are ready to defend

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<v Speaker 5>and fight for what they know to be right. For

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<v Speaker 5>as long as they have a melting pot. They're like, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>so everyone's right, even though people essentially believe incredibly different

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<v Speaker 5>things to each other. It doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a suggestion.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Australian Human Rights Commission want to rename Harmony Day, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Their suggestion is what is an International Day for the

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<v Speaker 3>Elimination of racism.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got another suggestion.

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<v Speaker 3>We rename Harmony Day Australia Day every day on January

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six. But here's the serious point. You've got to

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<v Speaker 3>harmonize around something exactly. So to have harmony, there's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be something that you harmonize around. So surely what

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<v Speaker 3>we harmonize around is the fact we are all Australian.

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<v Speaker 3>January twenty sixth Harmony Day.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Change the name of it Harmony Days, a bit call

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<v Speaker 3>Australia Day.

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<v Speaker 2>It could really work.

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<v Speaker 4>And then what it kind of proves really is that

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<v Speaker 4>you give them an inch, they'll take a mile. Like okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So we started to acknowledge that we shouldn't be racist,

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<v Speaker 4>but then that's not good enough because apparently it hides racism.

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<v Speaker 1>Like how do you win? You don't win this battle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the point.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I forget which one of you said, the racism

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<v Speaker 3>industry but of course, if Harmony Day works, the Australian

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<v Speaker 3>Human Rights Commission doesn't need it's fifty million dollar a

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<v Speaker 3>year funding allowance because there'll be nothing for it to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's the thing that really gets their go.

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<v Speaker 5>We can scrap it. Tell you who is scrapping critical

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<v Speaker 5>race theory in the classroom is Trump's administration. They gave

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<v Speaker 5>schools until the twenty eighth of February to get rid

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<v Speaker 5>of all their DEI nonsense or their critical race indoctrination

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<v Speaker 5>out of the classroom or lose their federal funding. Now

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<v Speaker 5>what school is going to put up their hands and say, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll just shut up shop because well, we want to

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<v Speaker 5>keep teaching this nonsense. None of them. But the Trump

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<v Speaker 5>administration didn't stop there after February twenty eighth. They've launched

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<v Speaker 5>just last week an online portal called Getting Rid of DEEI,

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<v Speaker 5>which is for the use of parents, of students, everyone

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<v Speaker 5>on the ground. That will of course be the ones

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<v Speaker 5>aware if schools are not obeying this edict from the

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<v Speaker 5>federal government. They say, jump online. We want to know

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<v Speaker 5>what schools are breaking the rules. They literally tell people,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're using this porthole, describe it as much detail

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<v Speaker 5>as possible, the discriminatory practice taking place. They call these

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<v Speaker 5>illegal discriminatory practices. They want to identify potential areas for investigation.

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<v Speaker 5>This is incredible. This portal says the US Department of

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<v Speaker 5>Education is committed to ensuring all students have access to

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<v Speaker 5>meaningful learning free of divisive ideologies and indoctrination. So while

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<v Speaker 5>we've got our Human Rights Commission literally saying you're not

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<v Speaker 5>shoving this down kids and throats hard enough, you've got

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<v Speaker 5>the Trump administration saying you will. We're gutting this out

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<v Speaker 5>of the entire schooling system, and if you break the rules,

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<v Speaker 5>mom and dads around the country are going to dob

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<v Speaker 5>you in and you will lose your federal funding.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this so much, especially as a parent who's

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<v Speaker 3>had kids come home from school with books where they've

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<v Speaker 3>got a picture of an indigenous person under a tree

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<v Speaker 3>looking incredibly happy. And then besides that, there's a picture

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<v Speaker 3>of a modern city and there's smoke coming out of

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<v Speaker 3>factory stacks, and the implication clearly is that Australia was

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<v Speaker 3>this idyllic paradise until white people arrived with their industrial revolution,

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<v Speaker 3>and your kids are getting bombarded with that right from

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<v Speaker 3>an early age to now my kids in university. And

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<v Speaker 3>we had that story just the other night about Macquarie University,

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<v Speaker 3>where young people are being taught that if they're not Indigenous,

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<v Speaker 3>they're a settler and a guest in this country. And

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<v Speaker 3>you've got lecturers starting the semester by telling students if

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<v Speaker 3>you address me by female pronouns, though I am a female,

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<v Speaker 3>I will ignore you. So it's rammed down kids' throats continually.

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<v Speaker 3>Parents in this country you complain it falls on deaf ears,

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<v Speaker 3>but in the United States now you can make a

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<v Speaker 3>legitimate complaint and the Education Department will listen and do

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<v Speaker 3>something about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure those books your sons were sent home

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<v Speaker 4>with were made by modern printers and then modern binders

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<v Speaker 4>and all this sort of modern technology that then allows

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<v Speaker 4>us to read books about how it was such an

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<v Speaker 4>idyllic lifestyle before the white man rocked up by the bye.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>They should call it the did Dorbin Division and expand

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<v Speaker 4>it from you know, beyond schools to everywhere. Right every

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<v Speaker 4>time you see DEI report it to the government and

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<v Speaker 4>then they can go in and do something about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I do wish that perhaps it would lob in my

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<v Speaker 4>emails first so that we've got the stories here to

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<v Speaker 4>do first before everyone else gets onto them. But that's

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<v Speaker 4>sort of been your only outlet thus far. Right, If

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<v Speaker 4>there's something going on in a school, or there's something

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<v Speaker 4>going on that you think is dodgy in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>DEI that the only way you could do anything about

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<v Speaker 4>it was to go to the media and get a

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<v Speaker 4>journalist to report on the story and then hope they

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<v Speaker 4>created enough of a ground swell for something to be done.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you've got a government that is proactively wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>do things. They're saying, look, if you see it, tell us.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a bit like the cops, or as if you

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<v Speaker 4>see something, if you hear something, say something, And they're

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<v Speaker 4>applying exactly the same logic here, and so it should

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<v Speaker 4>be because the parents are the eyes and.

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<v Speaker 1>The ears of the schools, and.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you can imagine why a department wouldn't know

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on in every single school everywhere. So unless

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<v Speaker 4>someone does blow the whistle, these things will just continue

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<v Speaker 4>to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank god someone's come up with a way.

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<v Speaker 4>Who would have thought, you know, the idea of a

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<v Speaker 4>website where you can go on and say something's.

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<v Speaker 1>Happening at my school and it goes off to the government.

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<v Speaker 1>So novel. Why did no one think of this before? Strange,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>While we're in the United States and talking about Trump, etc.

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<v Speaker 4>He would have seen, I'm sure over the weekend his

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<v Speaker 4>meeting with the Ukrainian president, LORDI mu Zelensky. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not going to go chapter and verse into it, because well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you haven't seen the coverage, you have definitely been

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<v Speaker 4>living under a rock. But as a small reminder of

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<v Speaker 4>how things went, he was a little bit of the

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<v Speaker 4>meeting between Zelenski and Donald Trump the other day.

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<v Speaker 6>Cabinet, we gave you, through the stupid president, three hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and fifty billion dollars. We gave your military equipment, and

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<v Speaker 6>you've met are brave, but they had to use our

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<v Speaker 6>military one of if you didn't have our military equipment.

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<v Speaker 6>If you didn't have our military equipment, this war would

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<v Speaker 6>have been over.

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<v Speaker 4>In two weeks now, Zelensky has gone to the US

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<v Speaker 4>to publicly sign a minerals sharing deal between Ukraine and

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<v Speaker 4>the US that would then become a major plank of

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<v Speaker 4>negotiating an end to the war between Ukraine and Russia.

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<v Speaker 4>They set up a great trap for Zelenski. There he

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<v Speaker 4>walked in, he became argumentative, and they were just as

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<v Speaker 4>argumentative back, they being Trump and his Vice president J. D. Vance,

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<v Speaker 4>who also took up the torch against Zelenski.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a look, have you said thank you once? A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times.

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<v Speaker 7>You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October,

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<v Speaker 7>offer some words of appreciation for the United States of

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<v Speaker 7>America and the president who's trying to save your country.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, there's been a lot of talk since then that

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<v Speaker 4>Vance overstepped the line. And how dare he speak directly

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<v Speaker 4>to Zelenski and say you should be more grateful for

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<v Speaker 4>what we have done to you, as though he were

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<v Speaker 4>the petulant child in the room. I must remind people

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<v Speaker 4>this is not the first time this has happened, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's not the first time it's happened under a Democrat

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<v Speaker 4>administration either. It's just that in that case, it didn't

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<v Speaker 4>happen publicly. It happened over the phone talking about Joe Biden. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it didn't happen publicly, but that's not the fault of

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Biden. Nor is it the fault of JD Vans

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<v Speaker 4>that the situation in which they got argumentative was in

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<v Speaker 4>front of reporters, as Zelensky could have avoided that just

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<v Speaker 4>as well as anyone else could have. But this has

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<v Speaker 4>happened before, Biden said when he was president to Zelenski,

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<v Speaker 4>you should be more grateful, Tager listen.

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<v Speaker 8>In this conversation, President Biden called President Zelensky to tell

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<v Speaker 8>him about a roughly one billion dollar package of additional

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<v Speaker 8>equipment and weapons for the Ukrainian military coming from the

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<v Speaker 8>United States. During the course of the call, President Zelensky continued.

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<v Speaker 8>According to a number of officials who we spoke with who

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<v Speaker 8>are familiar with the call, president Zelensky continued to talk

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<v Speaker 8>about the additional equipment and weapons and support that he

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<v Speaker 8>and his military needed. According to these officials, they said

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<v Speaker 8>that President Biden finally just got frustrated and lost his

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<v Speaker 8>temper and told President Zelensky, look, you could be a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit more great for he knew that the narrative

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<v Speaker 8>out there needed to be that the Ukrainian people and

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<v Speaker 8>President Zelensky were grateful for it. If this was the

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<v Speaker 8>support was going to continue at that same level kit like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's basically a carbon copy of the conversation that Vance

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<v Speaker 4>and Trump had with Zelensky, except that that one was

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<v Speaker 4>done behind closed doors. The other one with Trump and Advanced,

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<v Speaker 4>you actually got to see in public. The position of

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<v Speaker 4>the Bard administration and the Trump administration on.

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<v Speaker 1>That specific point is exactly the same. But the problem here.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, is that if you actually want to end

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<v Speaker 4>the war, which is Trump's stated goal, He's got no

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<v Speaker 4>other state of goal here except to end this war,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think Zelensky to some degree wants to achieve that.

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<v Speaker 4>But the problem is you have to seed ground in

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<v Speaker 4>order to do it. Both Russia and Ukraine have to

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<v Speaker 4>make some kind of concessions in order to end this war. Now, Zelensky,

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<v Speaker 4>for moral reasons, doesn't want to make those concent sessions.

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<v Speaker 4>And I understand why. For moral reasons he wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to make those concessions because Russia started this war, etc.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fine, but there ain't going to be an end

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<v Speaker 4>to the war unless you're willing to make those concessions.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you don't do that, more people die, and

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<v Speaker 4>this just goes on and on and on forever, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>For anyone. I mean, Russia's not losing this war.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, Ukraine's been able to keep them at bay to

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<v Speaker 4>some degree for a very long time. Now, this war's

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<v Speaker 4>gone a lot longer than we thought it would, But

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<v Speaker 4>Russia's not losing this war. The only way to end

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<v Speaker 4>it as if they both say we'll give up some ground.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't seem like that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's interesting is that Macron Zelensky was offered an

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to apologize on Fox News and decline to apologize

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<v Speaker 3>for his behavior. He's run off to Europe. He's meeting

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<v Speaker 3>with Starma and Macron and others, and now they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to come up with a peace plan. But it depends

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<v Speaker 3>again on the goodwill of America, because America have to

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<v Speaker 3>back it. One thing that no one's really reflected on,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think, and that is Trump had been saying

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<v Speaker 3>for some time that European countries need to look after

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<v Speaker 3>their own defense, they need to raise their defense budgets.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been quite adamant that that needs to happen. America

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<v Speaker 3>can't just keep on carrying the whole world. And the

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<v Speaker 3>meeting that Starmer had with mccron and other European leaders.

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<v Speaker 3>They all said that European nations need to lift their

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<v Speaker 3>defense spending to three point five percent of GDP. The

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<v Speaker 3>average is one point seven percent across the European Union

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment. So whatever happens out of this, Trump

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<v Speaker 3>has achieved one of his stated goals, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>to cajole the Europeans into, hey, stop free loading of

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<v Speaker 3>America and start to look after your own defense.

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<v Speaker 5>But at this point, once America has pulled the plug,

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<v Speaker 5>and it well and truly has, it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 5>France and the UK do, because what also nobody talks

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<v Speaker 5>about is obviously this is an incredibly expensive war, but

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<v Speaker 5>Russia is out beforeilming both the united efforts of the

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<v Speaker 5>US and NATO when it comes to making artillery, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's something everyone seems to have missed. This has been

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<v Speaker 5>such an exercise in highlighting the fact that NATO hasn't

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<v Speaker 5>been able to turn spending power into firepower quick enough.

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<v Speaker 5>All the artillery that the US has sent to the

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<v Speaker 5>Ukraine is not coming out of stocked full shelves bountiful

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<v Speaker 5>with artillery. It's been coming off conveyor belts. Russia and

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<v Speaker 5>you can google this for yourself. Has absolutely outstripped the

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<v Speaker 5>combined efforts of the US and NATO when it comes

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<v Speaker 5>to just pumping out its own artillery. They have industrial capacity.

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<v Speaker 5>NATO has proved that it clearly does not, even with

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<v Speaker 5>the US on its side. But what I can't believe

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<v Speaker 5>is how many commentators today we're condemning Vance, we're condemning

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<v Speaker 5>Trump like this had come as some sort of surprise.

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<v Speaker 5>These guys had said for months in the lead up

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<v Speaker 5>to the election, appealing to their base, who is furious

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<v Speaker 5>at the amount of money that has been spent on

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<v Speaker 5>this war, they have said, and you will remember, Trump

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<v Speaker 5>was like, within twenty four hours, within twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 5>I get into the White House, it's gonna be over now.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course he hasn't been able to deliver on that.

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<v Speaker 5>But people saying, oh, Trump advanced just totally embarrassed themselves.

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<v Speaker 5>And this was humiliating. Do you think this wasn't calculated?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you genuinely think this wasn't choreographed? They are playing

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<v Speaker 5>to the base. Trump doesn't find this embarrassing at all. Remember,

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<v Speaker 5>the guy comes from TV. He loves the theater, he

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<v Speaker 5>loves the drama. He revels in this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And you can bet your bottom dollar that these two said, wait,

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<v Speaker 5>we promised our base we would not be doing business

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<v Speaker 5>with this guy going forward. Now are being featured him

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<v Speaker 5>sitting in the White House. It looks rather cozy. We

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<v Speaker 5>need to send a message to the base that we

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<v Speaker 5>are standing by the things that we promised them. And

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<v Speaker 5>what I can't believe is the Lensky's attitude, knowing that

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<v Speaker 5>that is what this administration had been saying four months

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<v Speaker 5>in the lead up. In fact, on February nineteenth, this

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<v Speaker 5>is what Trump wrote on his own social account. He said,

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<v Speaker 5>think of it a modestly successful comedian VLADIMIRS. Skeolensky. Zolensky

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<v Speaker 5>rather talk to the United States of America into spending

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<v Speaker 5>three hundred and fifty billion dollars to go into a

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<v Speaker 5>war that couldn't be won, that never had to start,

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<v Speaker 5>but a war that he without the US and Trump

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<v Speaker 5>will never be able to settle. The United States has

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<v Speaker 5>spent two hundred billion dollars more than Europe, and Europe's

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<v Speaker 5>money is guaranteed while we'll get nothing back. Why didn't

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<v Speaker 5>sleepy Joe Biden demand equalization in that this war is

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<v Speaker 5>far more important to Europe than it is to us.

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<v Speaker 5>We have a big, beautiful ocean as separation. On top

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<v Speaker 5>of this, Zelenski admits that half of the money we

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<v Speaker 5>sent him is missing. That's a true story. He refuses

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<v Speaker 5>to have elections, is very low in Ukrainian polls, and

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<v Speaker 5>the only thing he was good at was playing Biden

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<v Speaker 5>like a fiddle. A dictator without elections, Zolensky better move

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<v Speaker 5>fast or he is not going to have a country left.

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<v Speaker 5>In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to

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<v Speaker 5>the war with Russia, something all admit only Trump and

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<v Speaker 5>the Trump admin can do. Biden never tried. Europe has

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<v Speaker 5>failed to bring peace, and Zelensky probably wants to keep

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<v Speaker 5>the gravy train going. I love Ukraine, but Zelensky has

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<v Speaker 5>done a terrible job. His country is shattered and millions

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<v Speaker 5>have unnecessarily died, and so it continues very provocative to

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<v Speaker 5>say the least. This is what Zelensky knew he was

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<v Speaker 5>walking into in this meeting, and yet his attitude talking

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<v Speaker 5>over the leader of the free world. You'd think you'd

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<v Speaker 5>just be like, Okay, no matter what they do, grin

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<v Speaker 5>and bear it. But this narrative coming out of the

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<v Speaker 5>mainstream media that this guy was here and he was

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<v Speaker 5>just to cement a minerals deal. That was the point

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<v Speaker 5>of this. Put the wall to one side for two seconds.

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<v Speaker 5>This was a minerals deal, and we're supposed to believe

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<v Speaker 5>that it was thrown out the window because Zelenski was

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit rude, a little bit short, do me

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<v Speaker 5>a favor. This administration knew exactly what they were doing,

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<v Speaker 5>making an example out of him, voicing the frustration of

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<v Speaker 5>millions of Americans, and it worked. They're on side well.

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<v Speaker 4>Anlys Nielsen made the point on Paul Murray's program before

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<v Speaker 4>Us that they essentially gave him enough rope to hang himself,

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<v Speaker 4>and he jumped into the trap and gave them the

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<v Speaker 4>trigger to do what they wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>He played that really dumb. The way he went into

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<v Speaker 1>that meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>It could have been a lot more civil than it was,

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<v Speaker 4>but he took debait and handed them the easy wins.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to say, you know, you could say that

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<v Speaker 3>Trump and Vance made an example of him. Zelenski made

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty good example of himself. I thought, hey, moving on.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the other day I told a story on

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<v Speaker 3>this program about a TV special run back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty six.

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<v Speaker 2>It was called The Mystery of El.

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<v Speaker 3>Capone's Vault, and television networks all over the world ran

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<v Speaker 3>this special where they blew up el Capone's vault and

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<v Speaker 3>everyone was fascinated by what they would find in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, when it was blown open, the worldwide television

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<v Speaker 3>audience was greatly disappointed because there was just some dirt

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<v Speaker 3>and some empty whiskey bottles.

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<v Speaker 2>That was it. Well, history repeats.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole world was waiting with baited breath at the

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<v Speaker 3>weekend for the release of the Epstein files, which the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump administration had promised and which Attorney General Pam Bondi

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<v Speaker 3>had blown up to be bigger than ben her. Here

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<v Speaker 3>she is speaking prior to the release of those files.

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<v Speaker 3>This was on February twenty first.

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<v Speaker 9>The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that really happen.

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<v Speaker 9>It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's

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<v Speaker 9>been a directive by President Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm reviewing that.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the

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<v Speaker 9>process of being reviewed, because that was done at the

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<v Speaker 9>directive of the president from all of these agencies.

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<v Speaker 3>So she's getting us ready and then five days later

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<v Speaker 3>she was building it up even more.

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<v Speaker 9>There are well over this will make you sick. Two

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<v Speaker 9>hundred victims, two hundred. We have to make sure that

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<v Speaker 9>their identity is protected and their personal information. But other

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<v Speaker 9>than that, I think tomorrow the personal information of victims.

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<v Speaker 9>Other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse breaking news. Right now,

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.479
<v Speaker 9>you're going to see some Epstein information being released.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to see some Epstein information released. So binders

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 3>were given out to particular people. The Epstein files phase

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<v Speaker 3>one the most transparent administration in history. All that information

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 3>was later posted online with this disclaimer from the Trump

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<v Speaker 3>administration quote, the first phase of declassified files largely contains

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<v Speaker 3>documents that have previously been leaked but never released in

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<v Speaker 3>a formal capacity. Caleb, it was a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>nothing burger. It was like blowing open El Capone's safe

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 3>and there was a bit of dirt and some empty bottles.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing. We didn't already know.

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<v Speaker 1>What more could you ask for it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like when you know things turn up in newspapers

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<v Speaker 4>and then five days later the government say we've got

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<v Speaker 4>a brand new announcement for you we already knew about

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<v Speaker 4>did Bevans say? This is really odd because Cash Patil,

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<v Speaker 4>who's now in charge of the FBI, has previously talked

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<v Speaker 4>about how he wants this to believe be released.

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<v Speaker 1>He's read the files, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 4>Pam Bondie is now saying that the reason we didn't

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<v Speaker 4>get any more information in this tranch of documents is

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 4>because the FBI refused to release them. Cash Patel has

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<v Speaker 4>not publicly commented about this since Pam said that some

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.479
<v Speaker 4>three days ago. Now, there is something weird going on

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 4>here right now now, whether that is that there are

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 4>staff in the FBI that didn't release it and now

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Patel's trying to work behind the scenes, who knows, but

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.959
<v Speaker 4>he hasn't acknowledged publicly why any of this has happened

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 4>or how any of this has happened. So it would

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 4>lead you to us, why have we not actually seen

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 4>anything that's of any interest yet. And the fact that

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 4>they trumpeted it so hard the release right like they

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<v Speaker 4>got influencers in and podcasters and whatever and gave them

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 4>advanced copies of the documents, which was a bit weird

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 4>to begin with. I mean you know, it's reasonably standard

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<v Speaker 4>that media get embargoed versions of documents so that they

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<v Speaker 4>can publish a story at the same time as something

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 4>is released publicly. That's normal and standard practice, so you

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 4>can get the praises of these things as quickly as possible.

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.199
<v Speaker 4>But it wasn't just a he is document in secret

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 4>treat it secretly put your report out at this time

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 4>on this date. They got them in in a publicity

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 4>stunt and got them to walk around waiving the documents

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.479
<v Speaker 4>around to show that they had them, and then when

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 4>they opened them up found there was nothing inside.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is bizarre.

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 5>And they had to know it would massively backfire because

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 5>these influences, these podcasters. Basically, if you're an American podcaster

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 5>or similar with over a million followers, you get invited

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 5>to these things now, which is a great plus. But

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 5>some of these guys are the ones that have been

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<v Speaker 5>following the Epstein story for years and years and years.

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 5>It was six years ago now that this guy suddenly

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<v Speaker 5>turned up dead, and just when people thought they were

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 5>getting justice, no information has come to light, and they

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 5>were told that they would get new stuff in this

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 5>lever arch file that each of them got and as

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 5>you said, Caleb, it was talked up as like, oh,

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 5>please don't discuss this yet. You know, they didn't use

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 5>the word embargo, but it was very much implied that

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 5>you are being let into the inner sanctum with this

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 5>information it's not yet to go public, to which these

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 5>guys went home, read through that lever Arch file and said,

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 5>this stuff is years old. There is not one scaic

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 5>of new information that has come to light. What was

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 5>this entire fiasco about. So they've really shot themselves in

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 5>the foot, particularly Pam Bondi because of course she's very

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 5>new as Attorney general. This is Trump's pick. People have

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 5>very high expectations. This is something that the Trump team

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 5>trumpeted for ages that they were going to do. Same

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 5>with the JFK files. Haven't seen any of those either,

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 5>have you know me? Neither keep me posted. These guys

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 5>are owed answers and they're still seeing absolutely nothing. So

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 5>this is a massive embarrassment. Then Pam turns around, like

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 5>you say, he blames the FBI and says, but I've

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 5>given them a deadline eight am Friday. They've got to

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 5>give me the stuff that they haven't given me yet.

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 5>But when The leaders of the FBI now are Cash Pattel,

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 5>who's talked about this at length and how much he

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 5>wants to bust it wide open. His deputy Don Borngino

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 5>has also talked about this at length for years. This

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 5>guy's in the no, he knows what he's talking about. Again,

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 5>we're supposed to believe that the FBI are the ones

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 5>who are like pussy footing around this, not being upfront

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 5>and hon us not blowing it open like they promised.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 5>Everyone's smelling a rat right now and saying this guy,

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 5>why won't you reveal anything to us? And what Bondi

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 5>was saying there about, Oh, you know, it's about keeping

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 5>the victims their information. Nobody is expecting that what they

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 5>want is the client list. You promised a client list.

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 5>You promised that this thing was going to peel paint

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 5>off the walls and justice was going to be served

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 5>at last on these rich and powerful people that participated

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 5>in a child sex trafficking ring, and still we got nothing. Meanwhile,

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 5>Gealing Maxwell is serving twenty years basically in a really

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 5>nice place with the ankle bracelet on for crimes that

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 5>involve no one, apparently involve absolutely nobody seems incredible.

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 4>Bondie said, you know, promises made, promises kept seepack when

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 4>it came to the release of these documents. I don't

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 4>think at this point you'd say the promise has been kept,

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 4>would you.

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<v Speaker 5>No, not at all to Romania now, where here we

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 5>have another European country who is trying to get a

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 5>right leading government. We've seen this in the Netherlands. We've

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 5>seen this in France, We've seen this in Italy. We've

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 5>seen this across the board as countries in the European

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 5>Union go the European Union is not serving our interests.

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:05.560
<v Speaker 5>We want a radical We want someone who is going

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 5>to put our country first. Well, this guy called Kaylin

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 5>George Estu, Sorry mate if I've mispronounced your name. He's

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 5>heading up what Once again the mainstream media is calling

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 5>a far right party. They love to do this. They're

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 5>even using the whole oh he loves Russia, his mates

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 5>with Putin, even though the guy has literally said, quote,

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.479
<v Speaker 5>I'm not a fan, end quote. Just to make it

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 5>really clear, do not try to be smirched me with that.

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 5>I know it's worked in the past for you, but

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 5>I am not a Putin fan. Well, he run. He

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 5>won the first round of elections in Romania. They have

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 5>a complicated system there, but all went well during the

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 5>first round. The second row was stymied, and now this

0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 5>guy ends up in prison. He was just in a

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 5>car on his way to a rally when he was

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 5>taken into custody in Romania on what I can only

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 5>tell is trumped up chargers. Now it's very hard to

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 5>know what are the facts and figures about this. Who

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 5>knows much about Romanian politics, but this looks like a

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 5>stitch up, as most stitch ups are when it's pertaining

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 5>to a right leaning leader trying to get up in

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 5>the EU who has made great promises to their country.

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 5>They have the popular vote, and so the media goes

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 5>to town on them, as do the powers that be,

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 5>to make sure that they never actually get the gong.

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 5>But check out the crowd protest trying to get Kaylin

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 5>George Escue out of jail. Look at the masses that

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 5>are gathered to say, get our guy out of prison.

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 5>We elected him in the first round, we'll elect him

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 5>in every other round. You guys are trying to stick

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 5>our guy, and you've arrested him, you've indicted him, and

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 5>on what charge. It's very hard to believe any of this.

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 5>But once again, this is what they tried to do

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 5>with Lee Penn, with smirching her as some crazy right

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.800
<v Speaker 5>wing nut job. This is what they did with Garrett

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.960
<v Speaker 5>Wilda's crazy nut wing right job. You can go through

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 5>each of the countries. Germany, they tried this on really

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 5>hard with the AfD. Didn't work. They have the popular vote,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 5>and here we are in Romania. It just seems like

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 5>copy paste.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always interesting when they use smears like far right,

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:38.800
<v Speaker 3>which as far as I can tell, means you believe

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 3>in God, country and family.

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 5>They probably have very hard immigration policies.

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 2>They've called him a.

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Populist, which I guess is true since he did win

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 3>the first round of the election, an ultranationalist, which means

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 3>he rejects the EU globalist fantasy and he believes in

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 3>national sovereignty, and he's admirer of Trump, which is one

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 3>of the worst things you can be these days.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Calling in sixth.

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Position going into the first round of the presidential election,

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 3>so literally came out of nowhere to win that first round.

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 3>And one of the charges against him is and I quote,

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:17.240
<v Speaker 3>setting up an organization with fascist, racist, and xenophobic characteristics,

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 3>which sounds like a very subjective sort of criminal charge.

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, and they're claiming that he's set up some

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 4>sort of anti Semitic group. And the reporting out of

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 4>the Romanian media has been all this stuff leaked from

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 4>the charges that they're they're laying against him, saying he

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 4>tried to lead some coup against the government and that's

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:38.720
<v Speaker 4>anti constitutional. Look, if governments just listened to their people,

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 4>you wouldn't have to deal with people like him in

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 4>the first place, would you.

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 1>You wonder how you end up with these supposedly far.

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 4>Right candidates because people have got no other choice. Seriously,

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 4>just listen to people when they say they want their

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 4>countries to be looked after. Quickly, before we go to

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 4>a break, If you've been watching this program for the

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 4>better part of two years, if you've been reading my columns,

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 4>you'll know I've been banging on about the illicit tobacco

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 4>trade and the fact that it was all created by

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 4>the federal government because they charge it a high heaven

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 4>with tobacco excise. If you try to buy a packet

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 4>of daries down at the supermarket, and.

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Would you believe it? Everyone else has now jumped on board.

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 4>There's been some great reporting over the weekend from the

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 4>nine newspapers and sixty Minutes last night Nick Nick mackenzie sorry,

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 4>great investigation. Four Corners has run an investigation this evening

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 4>on the ABC about this booming illicit tobacco trade. If

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 4>you're not a smoker and you don't know exactly how

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 4>easy it is to buy a packet of illegal cigarettes

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 4>with no tax on it, and exactly how cheap they are,

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 4>this is how easy it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, thanks Manchester Satires plase just one packs.

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<v Speaker 1>For thirteen bucks a pack o good.

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 4>That's going on in thousands of tobacconists and convenience stores

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 4>across the country, basically with zero impunity. The money that

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 4>you spend on that elicit packet of cigarettes goes on

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 4>to fund all sorts of other crime human trafficking, murder, etc.

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 4>That's the sort of stuff that goes on. Because the

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 4>crime gags are forgetting about drugs. Now they're getting involved

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 4>in elicit tobacco why because the federal government created this market.

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Even the police agree.

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Sixty Minutes last night and the nine newspapers today were.

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Quoting Rowan Park.

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 4>He's the former head of the Border Forces Tobacco Task Force,

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 4>and he says the Federal Health Department's ideological zealotry in

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 4>relation to elicit tobacco has caused the problem and continues

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 4>to fuel it.

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>These are the people who.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Are trying to combat the illicit tobacco trade that is

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 4>being run by organized crime. The government is at fault.

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 4>If they weren't so greedy with their tax, the government

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be funding indirectly murder, rape, all sorts of stuff

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 4>in this country right now. This is what happens when

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 4>you go overboard on tax. They've been worn so many

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 4>times on this and they've done nothing. If you're the

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 4>leader of the Hells Angels or any of the other

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Middle Eastern crime gangs, I'll tell you what, they won't

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 4>be voting for Peter Dutton. They'll all be voting for

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Anthony al but Easy, and they should be sending him

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 4>a letter of thanks for giving them a brand new

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 4>market that has been so damn lucrative.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's making news tomorrow, including the racetrack. Mount Panorama

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<v Speaker 3>could be off limits to the public after an Indigenous

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<v Speaker 3>group claims it's a sacred sight.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that and law in a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back. Well, let's give you the first look at

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 3>tomorrow's front pages. We'll start with the Herald's Sun, which

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<v Speaker 3>has got a great story on the front page.

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<v Speaker 2>The headline reads Easier to be a Cop.

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<v Speaker 3>Police in Victoria are loosening their academic standards to lift

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 3>an abysmal recruitment rate. The force has relaxed several education

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<v Speaker 3>and health requirements for some recruits. The article goes on

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<v Speaker 3>to say applicants who receive an Australian Tertiary Admission ranking

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<v Speaker 3>of sixty five or above will no longer be required

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<v Speaker 3>to sit the entrance exam. Just for context, the average

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<v Speaker 3>ATAR in Victoria last year was sixty nine point five,

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<v Speaker 3>So you can now score sixty five fairly well below average,

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<v Speaker 3>and that will be considered good enough for the Victorian Police.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, you can score lower than that and score

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<v Speaker 3>your spot in the federal government's cabinet. I love this

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<v Speaker 3>quote in the article from Chief Commissioner Rick Nugent.

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<v Speaker 2>He says there is no.

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<v Speaker 3>Minimum ATAR study score or education level required to join

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<v Speaker 3>Victoria Police.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hardly a ringing endorsement.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, I've got to say, I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 4>your doodles on the front of the Herald Sun tomorrow, James.

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<v Speaker 1>I am shocked. I tell you the things he draws.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on his newspapers.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you were thinking of joining the coppers, right,

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<v Speaker 4>would you really go?

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<v Speaker 5>Hmm?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be there, goes my pen off.

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<v Speaker 4>That is, I can't be bothered being a copper anymore

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 4>because I'd have to take a test in order to

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<v Speaker 4>be entered into the police force. Is that really the

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<v Speaker 4>thing that's preventing anyone from signing up to the police

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<v Speaker 4>force in Victoria. I don't think it is. As if

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<v Speaker 4>they can say this is going to get one single

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<v Speaker 4>extra person into the police force. I can't see how

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to do anything. If you're that lazy that

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<v Speaker 4>you don't want to take a test to become a

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<v Speaker 4>police officer, do we even want you as a police

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<v Speaker 4>officer in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Get some more people in, but they'd be all the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong kind of people.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. The message is if you don't do well at school,

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<v Speaker 5>there's always the Victorian Police.

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>We'll give you a gun.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't worry, We'll give you a gun and a chaser

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 5>for good measure to the front page of the Northern

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<v Speaker 5>Territory News. Now show us the Mondays Northern Territory government

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<v Speaker 5>wants federal cash on the table for port buy out. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>ladies and gentlemen, we're talking about the Port of Darwin.

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<v Speaker 5>Could it be at last stump it up? The Northern

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 5>Territory Government is sending representatives on a key mission to

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<v Speaker 5>Canberra that could see the Federal Labor government put up

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<v Speaker 5>the cash to buy the Port of Darwin from Chinese

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 5>operator's land bridge. Ultimately it will be a case of

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<v Speaker 5>stump up or shut up on the table for the

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 5>Albanesi government. Now, I'm sure you, like any rational thinking person,

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<v Speaker 5>thinks is absolutely nuts that this port that was once

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<v Speaker 5>bonded to eternity by the Japs during World War Two,

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 5>because port's are very important strategic logistical I mean they

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<v Speaker 5>make or break, especially during wartime, that we just handed

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 5>it over to our chief enemy, thank you, Malcolm Turnbull

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<v Speaker 5>for a pole tree just over half a million dollars

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<v Speaker 5>and they have it for ninety nine years. This is

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<v Speaker 5>the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my entire life,

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 5>and yet ALBANSI stood by it. Remember in twenty twenty

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 5>three there was a blistering report that came out. Morrison

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 5>also did one because he was like, well, you know,

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 5>got to be seen to be doing something. Every defense

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 5>expert has screened their lungs out over this, saying we've

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 5>got to buy it back, We've got to break this agreement.

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 5>And then Albanesi came out and said, look, we've had

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 5>a review and it's all a okay. Three days before

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 5>he announced that he was going to China to visit

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 5>Jijingping and be called a handsome boy. So this farce

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:52.399
<v Speaker 5>has continued for a very long time. Tensions are very

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 5>high with regards to our relations with China, especially now

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<v Speaker 5>that Trump's in the White House. The tiny has never

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 5>been better. But do you I think this government's actually

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<v Speaker 5>going to do something about it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the sort of thing you do in the

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 3>lead up to an election where national defense is becoming

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 3>an issue. People are doubting your commitment to it, so

0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 3>you hint that we're going to do this, and then you.

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Win the election and you forget all about it. I

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 2>think that might be what.

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Happens here, maybe, though I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Finocchiaro in the Northern Territory would actually he would just

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 4>hand that a little freebach to Albanizi. But it's even

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<v Speaker 4>worse than you described is in terms of that report,

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 4>because it was three days before he said he was

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 4>going to go to China, but he dropped it on

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 4>a Friday afternoon, which is the oldest trick in the

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:40.280
<v Speaker 4>book when you're trying to bury a story. Six months

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 4>after he had received that report. He sat on the

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 4>report for six months before he decided to tell us

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 4>that it was okay to keep the Port of Darwin

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 4>in Chinese hands. It is absolutely staggering that that still exists.

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 4>If he's got at least two brain cells, ALBERANIZI will

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 4>do something about it. But I'm not going to breath

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 4>because of course we saw how he treated those warships,

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 4>Chinese warships floating around the Australian coast. I think China's

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:09.920
<v Speaker 4>just able to do what they want really basically. Oh

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 4>also slide of hand in television. I've got another pen,

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.479
<v Speaker 4>and now I didn't get up out of my seat

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 4>to retrieve.

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>The one that I threw off the desk. F I

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:17.839
<v Speaker 1>can do.

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Anything made that's going to be so you had one

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 2>in your pocket.

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 4>Well, well I had one next to the desk. Look

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know I've always got pins because you

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 4>never know when I'm going to have a hissy fit

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 4>and throw one at my producer. Let's go to the

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Australian tomorrow where it is sacred status bid for iconic

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 4>motor race site. The fringe indigenous group that brought down

0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 4>the billion dollar Blaney Mind Project has laid the groundwork

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 4>for an unprecedented legal bid to declare the peak of

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Mount Panorama, overlooking Australia's iconic motor racing circuit, a sacred

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 4>site after one of its former members ashes were scattered there.

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine this, James, I know how much you

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 4>enjoy your your supercars sport.

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Can you imation making it a sacred site?

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<v Speaker 4>Actually it should be a sacred site because it is

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 4>so bloody important to Australian culture, But not for the

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 4>reasons they suggest.

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 3>I've been to a couple of smoking ceremonies at Mount

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:15.439
<v Speaker 3>Panorama in nineteen eighty six and in nineteen eighty eight.

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 1>It's smoking, so it's coming out of the back of

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, But this indigenous group applied for permission and received

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 3>it from the council to go to this summit on

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Mount Panorama, to conduct a smoking ceremony, to sprinkle the

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 3>ashes of an indigenous man who had no connection to

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Mount Panorama at the top of the mountain mark a tree,

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 3>and now they've claimed it's a sacred site because this

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 3>man's ashes have been sprinkled. Think about those surfers who

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 3>go out after a mate gets taken by a shark

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, and they sprinkle their mate's ashes out in

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 3>the ocean. What are they going to start to claim

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 3>that that now belongs to them and their mates because

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 3>ashes are there. This is unbelievable that they're doing this.

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.120
<v Speaker 3>We're going to go to a break when we come back.

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 3>One of the most incredible retraction that you'll see on TV.

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 3>An American show blasts elon Musk and then just moments

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 3>later issues the glovalent groveling apology that's coming up with us.

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<v Speaker 2>The moment welcome back.

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, LISZT TV hosts get it wrong occasionally, but this

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:16.720
<v Speaker 3>one was a doozy.

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh, this was deliberate. We all know that Musk derangement

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:23.800
<v Speaker 5>syndrome has taken off since Trump made it to the

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 5>White House and decided to make this guy his sidekick.

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 5>Lefty's love to hate him. So, of course that includes

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 5>the panel of the View, but none more so than

0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 5>Joey Biha, who decided to just go full misinformation disinformation,

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 5>spouting her hatred. For one, Elon Musk.

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 10>Was upborn in this country, who was born under apartheid

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 10>in South Africa, so has that mentality going on? He

0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:55.720
<v Speaker 10>was pro apartid as I understand it. Now, I'm getting

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 10>some flat because I said that Musk was pro apartheid.

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 10>I don't really know for sure if he was. He

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 10>grew up at that time when a part time was

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 10>in phil Blom before the great Nelson Mandela fixed out

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 10>he was around at that time, but maybe he was.

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 5>Maybe he wasn't He might have.

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 10>Been a young guy too, So don't be so emmy, O.

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 5>Can you a very formose way of saying, I just

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 5>made that up? I imagine if each of us were

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 5>responsible and clearly supported whatever was going on in our

0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 5>nation of birth.

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 4>Well, well, you know, Joy Biha was born in nineteen

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 4>forty two, and I think Hippler was running around the

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 4>world in nineteen forty two, wasn't he? She must be

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 4>a Nazi. For goodness sake, how dumb can you get?

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 5>Now?

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.240
<v Speaker 4>Look, it's no secret that I have a thing about

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 4>people dressing well, particularly for the circumstance they are in.

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 4>You might remember I had a spray in the early

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 4>days of this program about Senator David Poe, cup Poke,

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 4>cup po Cox sorry, rocking up to Parliament with so

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:57.919
<v Speaker 4>much as a suit and tie and he's walking around

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 4>the corridors in a T shirt. Adam Sandler did much

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 4>the same today at the Oscars. You know, I really

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 4>couldn't give two rats about the Oscars, the degenerate nonsense

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 4>that goes on there. But seriously, mate, if you're rocking

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 4>up to an awards night, you can do better than this.

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 7>And finally, for such a prestigious night, it's important that

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 7>everyone is properly dressed.

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're dressed well.

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 7>Adam Gold here, what's.

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 4>Up, my brother?

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 5>What's going on?

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:36.840
<v Speaker 7>Adam?

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 1>What are you wearing?

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 5>What? What are you doing right now?

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:43.320
<v Speaker 2>And asking you what you're wearing?

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:46.240
<v Speaker 9>Nobody even thought about what I was wearing.

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>You brought it up.

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.359
<v Speaker 2>There you go. He's the Zelenski of the Oscars. That's

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:54.800
<v Speaker 2>it from us. Stick around coming up is the readependent,

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 2>his show, good Night