1 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: From The Australian. I'm Claire Harvey. We've loved bringing you 2 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: insights from our journals around the nation and the world 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: this year. Over this holiday break, we're revisiting some of 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: our biggest and best episodes from a huge year in 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: the news. This episode originally aired on March one, when 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: New South Wales State Coroner Teresa O'Sullivan handed down her 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: findings in an inquest into the nineteen ninety seven disappearance 8 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: of Queensland mother Marion Barter. It's hosted by our senior 9 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: reporter Matthew Condon. This is a case that's captivated the 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: nation for years, and O'Sullivan said the possible involvement of 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: fraudster Rick Bloom Warren's further investigation, directing the authorities to 12 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: send the case to the homicide squad. The Front will 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: return with all new episodes on Monday, January thirteen. Just 14 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,279 Speaker 1: hit follow or subscribe to hear the latest every morning. 15 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: Today, I'll be delivering my findings in the inquest into 16 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: the disappearance and suspected death of Florabella Natalia Marion Ramical 17 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: known as Marion Bart and who I'll be referring to 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: as Marian that was New. 19 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: South Wales State Coroner Magistrate Teresa O'Sullivan. In a story 20 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: that has more twists, turns and intrigue than a thriller novel. 21 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: Coroner O'Sullivan's somber conclusions in a court room in Lidcombe 22 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: in Sydney's West yesterday tied off some chapters in this 23 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: painful saga, but left the door ajar for the hunt 24 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 3: for Marion's killer. 25 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: First of all, I'd like to welcome Marion's family and 26 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: friends who are joining us here in person or via 27 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: the live stream today. I'd especially to acknowledge Marion's daughter, 28 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: Sally Laden and Marian's son in law chris Leyden and 29 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,279 Speaker 2: her grandchildren. My thoughts are with you today. 30 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: So here's a recap of one of the most remarkable 31 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: and peculiar missing persons cases in this nation's criminal history. 32 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: Marian Barta, once married to Australian's soccer great Johnny Warren, 33 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: was a well loved teacher at the exclusive of the 34 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: Southport School on the Gold Coast, when in mid nineteen 35 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: ninety seven, at aged fifty one, she abruptly resigned her position, 36 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: sold her house and traveled overseas. Leading up to her 37 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: trip an. Unbeknown to friends and family, she had officially 38 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: changed her name to the elaborate Flora Bella Natalia Marian Ramachel, 39 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: returning to Australia later in the year without contacting her 40 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: loved ones, she made a series of large cash withdrawals 41 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: from her bank account before she completely disappeared. It took 42 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: more than a decade before police began to seriously investigate 43 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: the Barter mystery. 44 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 4: Good morning everyone, Detective Superintendent Danny Doltick, Commander Homicide Sport 45 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 4: to State cron Command, a new South Wales government together 46 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: in the New South Wales Police Force announced a turner of 47 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars reward relating to the nineteen ninety seven 48 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 4: disappearance of Marion Bart. Marion Barter was fifty one when 49 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: she was last seen in Scarborough Street, near Railway Street 50 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: at Southport and Coueensland at a bus step. In the 51 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: week's leading up to her disappearance, Marion was seen with 52 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: a toll male who was unknown to us and to 53 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: a family. 54 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: Finally, a protracted inquest into the case began on June 55 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: twenty one, twenty twenty one. It ended yesterday while Coroner 56 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: O'Sullivan found Marion's disappearance to be troubling. She was unequivocal 57 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: about the missing teacher's fate. 58 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: I come now to the formal findings. As a result 59 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: of having considered all of the documentary evidence, the oral 60 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: evidence given at inquests and submissions, I find, on the 61 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: balance of probabilities that Floribella Natalia Marian Ramical, formerly known 62 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: as Marion Barter, is deceased. 63 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: A heartbreaking conclusion for the family and Marion's supporters who 64 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: packed the Lidcom Court yesterday, but hardly unexpected. In late 65 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven, Marian's daughter Sally, officially reported her mother 66 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: missing to Byron Bay Police. Catastrophically, police didn't deem Marian 67 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: as missing, but in fact as a person not wanting 68 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: to be found. Of this decision, the coroner was scathing. 69 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: I find that the nature and adequacy of the police 70 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: investigation into the disappearance of Marian was not adequate. 71 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: But that was just the start of this labyrinth of 72 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: a case. Thanks in part to an Australian podcast, The 73 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: Lady Vanishers, Amateurs Sloths were unleashed on the investigation trying 74 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: to piece together the Marion Barter mystery and one of 75 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: those sloths made a critical breakthrough, linking Marion to a 76 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: Belgian born convicted conman by the name of Rick Blum. Blum, 77 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: now in his eighties and based in Australia since the 78 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: nineteen seventies, had a string of convictions for fraud and 79 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: had in the past gone under at least fifty aliases. 80 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: The inquest heard evidence from vulnerable women who had been 81 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: deceived by Blum as it transpired in wild and perambulating 82 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: evidence before the coroner. Blum confirmed that he had been 83 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: in a relationship with Barta in the months before she disappeared. 84 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: He had also once used the alias Remakel, but he 85 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: vehemently denied he had anything to do with her disappearance. 86 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: In court, Blum denied he had suggested to Barter that 87 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: she buy a school in the UK in order to 88 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: persuade her to withdraw money from her bank account. He 89 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: also strongly denied he had had any contact with Barta 90 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: after she'd returned to Australia from overseas in August nineteen 91 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: ninety seven. The coroner, in her final findings, though ultimately 92 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: expressed misgivings about Blum as a witness. 93 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: In short, I do not accept as accurate anything mister 94 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: Bloom has said in evidence in the absence of independent 95 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: corroborating evidence. She added mister Bloom's evidence in the final 96 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: days of the inquest, when asked by Counselsting, would you 97 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: like to say anything further in relation to the disappearance 98 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: of Marion Barter, was extraordinary. This evidence, along with his 99 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: lies and deception throughout the inquest, has convinced me that 100 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: he does indeed no more than his saying. 101 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: Coroner O'Sullivan wasn't done with the enigma that was Rick Blum. 102 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: Investigations by the Australians National Crime correspondent Dave Murray and 103 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: others uncovered Blum's eye popping backstory as a globe trotting 104 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: coin collector with a taste for fine hotels and champagne, 105 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: also as a man accused of swindling unsuspecting widows of 106 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: their money. Blum, who lives in the New South Wales 107 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: Northern Rivers region, has called the accusations a pack of lies. 108 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 3: The coroner concluded. 109 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: I make the following further findings regarding mister Bloom. Firstly, 110 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: that he has further knowledge about the circumstances of Marian's 111 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: travel overseas, Secondly, that he has further knowledge of his 112 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: relationship with her in the months prior to her disappearance. Thirdly, 113 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: that he has further knowledge of her circumstances following her 114 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: return from overseas. Fourthly that he has further knowledge of 115 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: the withdrawals and transfer of her money. And finally, that 116 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: there is a sufficient basis for a finding that he 117 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: was and is deliberately unwilling to divulge this further knowledge 118 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: to the court. 119 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: The coroner said any future action against Blum, be it 120 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: for alleged perjury or giving false statements before the inquest, 121 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: was up to prosecuting authorities to pursue if they so judged. 122 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: As for New South Wales Police and the continued investigation 123 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: into Marion Barter's whereabouts, Coroner Sullivan was unequivocal. 124 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: I recommend that the New South Wales Commissioner of Police 125 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: calls the investigation into the death of missing person Floribella 126 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: Natalia Marian Ramcol formerly known as Marion Barter, be referred 127 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: to or to remain within the State Crime Command Unsolved 128 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: Homicide Team for ongoing investigation, review and monitoring. 129 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: So the Barter case is not over by a long shot, 130 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: or is it coming up? What this case has in 131 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: common with other notorious Australian mysteries. While I've got you, 132 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: I wanted to let you know. Subscribers can access more 133 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,239 Speaker 3: of this in depth reporting anytime at The Australian's website. 134 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: Check us out at the Australian dot com dot au. 135 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: We'll be back after this break. The Australians National Crime 136 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: Correspondent Dave Murray worked extensively on the Marian Barter missing 137 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: person investigation. We spoke to him after the coroner's findings 138 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: were delivered. 139 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 5: The coroner came back with some very significant findings. Firstly 140 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 5: that Marion Barter is dead, that she is no longer alive, 141 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 5: that she died some time after nineteen ninety seven, the 142 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 5: year that she went missing. It's what her daughter, Sally Leyden, 143 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 5: has suspected for a long time. It's not something that's 144 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 5: easy for her to accept, I think, but the longer 145 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 5: and longer it's gone, all the milestones that have passed 146 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 5: without any word or sign from her mother being alive, 147 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 5: she was forced to come to that conclusion. 148 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: Dave wasn't convinced that the inquest would have satisfactorily served 149 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: the Barter family. Only time would tell. 150 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 5: But you have to wonder what's actually going to happen 151 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 5: with this case, like how are they going to take 152 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 5: it for because it becomes just one more of however 153 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 5: many unsolved cases that the homicide squad will periodically come 154 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 5: back to and have a look at, and unless there's 155 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: some kind of major development, it goes back and gathers 156 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 5: dust again and there's no answers and Sally Laden has 157 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 5: left without any resolution. It's completely unacceptable for that to happen. 158 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 5: There are avenues to pursue this case further, and I 159 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 5: think our police forces owe it to Sally Layden to 160 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 5: be doing everything they can to solve this case because 161 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 5: there has just been so many stuff ups along the way. 162 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 5: And no one should accept. 163 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 3: That Marion's daughter, Sally a tireless advocate for the truth 164 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: about her mother the coroner's court yesterday without talking to reporters. 165 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: But the final words of Coroner O'Sullivan must have been 166 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: ringing in her ears. 167 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: It's fitting to end with the words shared by Sally 168 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: to the court, reading from the family statement, the statement 169 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: in which she described Marian as a kind, caring soul 170 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: with a wicked laugh. She was intelligent, she was cultured, 171 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: and she had so many friends who loved her and 172 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 2: miss her still. She would always bring you flowers or 173 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: a cake. She was a very generous human. I close 174 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: this inquest. 175 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: You can read all the nation's best news, sport, politics 176 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: and business anytime at the Australian dot com dot au