Speaker 1: Hey beauties, It's Jamie Joe and Jesse Massou and welcome
Speaker 1: to Skinfluence, a podcast dedicated to beauty, fashion and self love,
Speaker 1: turning your weakness into your uniqueness.
Speaker 2: Before we get started, we'd like to acknowledge the custodians
Speaker 2: of the land on which we record the gallical people
Speaker 2: of the Urination.
Speaker 1: In today's episode, we have our very first guest on
Speaker 1: the pod. We will be speaking with doctor Natasha Cook. Now.
Speaker 2: Doctor Natasha Cook has a Bachelor of Medicine with honors
Speaker 2: and is a Fellow of the Australasian College of Dermatologists.
Speaker 1: Doctor Cook is passionate about all things skin, specializing in lasers, injectables,
Speaker 1: skin care, skin cancer and the six key skin concerns aging,
Speaker 1: sun damage, acne, sensitivity and dehydration.
Speaker 2: Doctor Cook is also the founder and leading dermatologists at
Speaker 2: Skin Laser, Longevity, Dormatology and health Span Clinic in Sydney,
Speaker 2: as well as the Face Bar by Doctor NC Laser
Speaker 2: and Skin Clinic.
Speaker 1: She also so is recognized as the first Australian dermatologist
Speaker 1: to have founded and formulated a skincare range. A pioneer
Speaker 1: driven by a passion to help people lead their best
Speaker 1: skin life.
Speaker 3: So please welcome doctor ENC to Skinfluence.
Speaker 4: I'm really excited to be here, Jesse and Jamie, and
Speaker 4: thank you for having me. It's an absolute pleasure. I'm
Speaker 4: looking forward to answering all of those questions more than
Speaker 4: skin deep.
Speaker 1: Well, we're so happy to have you here. Having you
Speaker 1: on this party is just amazing, and you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna learn so so so much today.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I actually crossed.
Speaker 3: Paths with doctor NC maybe two years ago, and.
Speaker 2: She actually set me on my trajectory to like really
Speaker 2: balancing out my hormones and figuring out what was wrong
Speaker 2: with my skin, what was wrong with my hair. And
Speaker 2: she took me so seriously more than any other doctor
Speaker 2: that I had been to. She got me all the
Speaker 2: right blood tests done, which no one else had done
Speaker 2: before that. So I'm really thankful for you because you
Speaker 2: actually like changed everything for me healthwise.
Speaker 4: Well, I have to say, I'm really overwhelmed to hear that,
Speaker 4: and that's one of the nicest things I've heard. Nice
Speaker 4: because you know, being a dermatologist and a specialist, I
Speaker 4: think people really underestimate the level of the training, the education,
Speaker 4: and how prescriptive we actually are beyond what the skin
Speaker 4: is presenting visually, and how most things are interconnected when
Speaker 4: it comes to looking at people as a whole and definitively.
Speaker 4: I always have a holistic approach to everything I do,
Speaker 4: but particularly my patients, their care, their welfare, and trying
Speaker 4: to get their best skin self.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm really excited for this because there's so much
Speaker 1: misinformation on the Internet. We hear the craziest things about
Speaker 1: so many different skincare topics, so I cannot wait to
Speaker 1: have some really good answers that clear everything up for
Speaker 1: you guys exactly.
Speaker 2: And today we really want to tackle the topic of retinoids,
Speaker 2: which I know nothing about it exactly, so I'm super
Speaker 2: keen for this. But I just see a lot on
Speaker 2: Instagram and TikTok of younger girls using products with retinoids
Speaker 2: in it and how it's like completely transform their skin.
Speaker 2: And then I also see thirteen year olds buying the
Speaker 2: drunk Elephant products and using it on their baby fit
Speaker 2: all these active ingredients, and yeah, we'd love to clear.
Speaker 3: The air with all of that. So, first of all,
Speaker 3: what is a retinoid?
Speaker 4: I have this experience with patients coming into seeing every
Speaker 4: single day of misunderstanding misinformation, TikTok trends, overuse for the
Speaker 4: wrong products. I'm not really understanding what they're meant to
Speaker 4: be doing, because unfortunately, we live in an era nowadays
Speaker 4: that just because you have skin does not make you
Speaker 4: an expert. I'm just saying, like, sometimes I get totally gasly.
Speaker 4: It's like I had to read a ton of textbooks that,
Speaker 4: honestly that were incredibly confusing and took me about six
Speaker 4: years to master. So unfortunately, nowadays, with TikTok social media,
Speaker 4: people can get online it's unsolicited and anybody can be
Speaker 4: appeared to be very inverted commas influential. Yeah, it doesn't
Speaker 4: necessarily mean they really understand what's going on. And the
Speaker 4: skin is one of the most complicated specialties to study.
Speaker 4: So let's now I diverse. Let's go back into retinoids. Ye,
Speaker 4: So retinoids fundamentally is a term. It's an umbrella term,
Speaker 4: so put at the top of the tree, which means
Speaker 4: a form a group of vitamin A molecules. Now, vitamin
Speaker 4: A then comes in different molecular structures that have different
Speaker 4: capacities to work in different areas in the body, and
Speaker 4: the retinoid family has a strong capacity to have key
Speaker 4: beneficial results for skin. Now, in that and brother terms
Speaker 4: sitting under it are your ingredients, your different formats of
Speaker 4: those vitamin A substrates, retinal retinol, retino palmitate, that my
Speaker 4: rectonomic acid, and so the thing is the real ingredient
Speaker 4: that binds to the receptors, it's retino acid, and that's
Speaker 4: the prescription form and that's what the pioneering research over
Speaker 4: forty something years has been going on for. Yet it's
Speaker 4: an oldie and a goodie retine. Also, in all formats,
Speaker 4: retinoids are very unstable. They degrade in sunlight, they don't
Speaker 4: do well when exposed to air. So what you're getting
Speaker 4: in a jar can be really tricky, which is why
Speaker 4: I do favor the prescription format because it's a gold standard. Proply,
Speaker 4: it's a cream. It's a cream, yeah yeah, So that
Speaker 4: they come in creams and some come in gels. Right,
Speaker 4: So creams and gels tends to be the vehicles, vehicles
Speaker 4: meaning delivery system when we talk about formulation to get delivered.
Speaker 4: So nowadays, because it's very much a and I'm going
Speaker 4: to bring up my businesses money, huh, it is, everybody's
Speaker 4: trying to make a retinal serum because now the education
Speaker 4: out there is everybody needs to use it, but it
Speaker 4: doesn't mean it's the best format for your skin. And
Speaker 4: interestingly enough, the good old fashioned prescription of type is
Speaker 4: heaps cheaper and probably works better when prescribed properly. So
Speaker 4: I think we're living in a society of status image
Speaker 4: gone wrong. Like, you know, we're now getting younger and
Speaker 4: younger people concerned about the impacts of aging and they
Speaker 4: haven't any hit puberty. Well that's crazy, you know. And
Speaker 4: so I think there is this hysteria of like skincare
Speaker 4: and how I look and these precious and social media
Speaker 4: and photographs and selfie syndrome gone wrong, And so it's
Speaker 4: propagating this need to maybe be doing things that you
Speaker 4: don't actually need because your skin's fabulous. Yeah. Now, then
Speaker 4: there's the other group of skin problem people, right, And
Speaker 4: so obviously we see acne in breakouts and congestion and
Speaker 4: blackeads and white heads and blacket and white heads are
Speaker 4: a subset of acne. That's the umbrella term there. And
Speaker 4: so I think those younger people who've got problems might
Speaker 4: be looking for solutions due to influence by influencers et cetera,
Speaker 4: and looking at these retinol retinal over the counter itamin
Speaker 4: a's as a quick fixed stop. The problem is there's
Speaker 4: no guidance, there's no education, and there's no prescriptive help
Speaker 4: with designing the topical regime to address the acne, and
Speaker 4: then that can create overuse, wrong things chaos, and then
Speaker 4: we often see a plethora of skin problems and the
Speaker 4: wrong skin routine right down from just how you're cleansing.
Speaker 4: Sometimes cleansing is the biggest mistake we make and it
Speaker 4: can set us up the sensitivity, irritation, parificialdom titus, worst acne, rosea, sha, aging, inflammation,
Speaker 4: the list goes off.
Speaker 1: So it seems super daunting from an outside perspective when
Speaker 1: there's so much knowledge that you're not aware of, and
Speaker 1: then people are looking online to kind of build a
Speaker 1: skin caroutine. It just seems like you can go so wrong.
Speaker 1: So it's really good to go to somebody if you're
Speaker 1: having any of those skin issues to actually create a
Speaker 1: proper skin care routine that suits your skin, that isn't
Speaker 1: going to damage your skin damage skin barrier.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, you importantly use the key term, which is
Speaker 4: something that I think we've really been understanding from a
Speaker 4: dermatological science angle, the role of the skin barrier, which
Speaker 4: is the outer layer of our skin. Our skin organ
Speaker 4: which is also known as the integumentary system, is the
Speaker 4: biggest organ in the body. Wow, And so that barrier
Speaker 4: layer is designed to keep the bad stuff out and
Speaker 4: the good stuff in. Yeah, so wh're washing or scrubbing
Speaker 4: or overusing the wrong ingredients and the wrong combinations and
Speaker 4: the wrong routines. Flaky dry skin equals dysfunctional barrier. So
Speaker 4: it means outside things are getting in and the inside
Speaker 4: things can't stay there to feed the skin with a
Speaker 4: numbishment that it needs. But we do know it's pretty
Speaker 4: normal for skin to get a little bit worse before
Speaker 4: it gets better because we're reprogramming, because the skin is
Speaker 4: its own metabolic unit.
Speaker 3: Okay, so what sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are signs that maybe it's not doing that
Speaker 2: process but it's actually just reacting badly to a product.
Speaker 4: Right, So more overt irritation. So vitamin in a way
Speaker 4: is not totally irritating. It all depends on how it's prescribed, right,
Speaker 4: So if it's upregulating a cell turnover but using it
Speaker 4: too much, it can get a bit flaky and a
Speaker 4: bit sensitive and a bit irritating to feel. So if
Speaker 4: your skin's feeling tight, if it's feeling sorts, feeling tender,
Speaker 4: if it's stinging, if it's flaky, if it's red, pull
Speaker 4: off your actives right, gentle cleansing and moisturizing to let
Speaker 4: that barrier system reheal its itself. If your skin looks healthy,
Speaker 4: feels healthy, doesn't have any sensitivity associated with it, it
Speaker 4: means your skin's tolerating your choice of products. So if
Speaker 4: in doubt, always go and check it out.
Speaker 3: I like that, that's good.
Speaker 4: I love.
Speaker 1: So when would you prescribe these kind of retinoids?
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I mean proper prescription because it's in the
Speaker 4: right format. It's been TJ approved, and it's going to
Speaker 4: be in a stable format because it has to get
Speaker 4: TJ approval. You're not going to buy a sunscreen off
Speaker 4: the shelf if it hasn't gone through right testing. I
Speaker 4: think I'm not saying over the counter vitamin A is bad,
Speaker 4: but I'm just saying, if you've got problematic skin, and
Speaker 4: if we've got the best choice in life, in the
Speaker 4: gold standard, the prescription is the way to go, right.
Speaker 4: But not everybody has access to dermatologists or doctors who
Speaker 4: are able to prescribe that. So I understand there's a
Speaker 4: big demand to go to the OTC or over the
Speaker 4: counter options.
Speaker 5: Hello, let's producer Zander here. I actually have a question
Speaker 5: because I actually use a prescription retinoid, and I wanted
Speaker 5: to run past you if I am using it correctly,
Speaker 5: let go when you got my botox, which every three
Speaker 5: months my best prevention, Yes it is. I was spoken
Speaker 5: to about retinoids and the benefits it could have for
Speaker 5: my skin. I'm thirty two now, so I have started
Speaker 5: to notice some changes to my skin, particularly the sagginess
Speaker 5: and some little wrinkles coming through.
Speaker 3: You're great, and.
Speaker 5: So they have given me a prescription for retinoid. I've
Speaker 5: started with a.
Speaker 4: T treton, Yes, I think so. It's another name for retocci,
Speaker 4: which is the active molecule ticktick for a five stars,
Speaker 4: five stars, perfect five.
Speaker 5: So every two days or one, depending on how my
Speaker 5: skin feels, I get a pity size of that retinoid
Speaker 5: size is perfect. I put that in with some moisturizer
Speaker 5: I use, and then I rub it my face and
Speaker 5: then I go to bed.
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't mind that. Okay, but actually fantastic using
Speaker 4: the right format in the right molecular construct if you're
Speaker 4: particularly concerned about the signs of aging. So digressing back
Speaker 4: to the question about who do you really prescribe them for,
Speaker 4: the two key category are the breakout brigades and the
Speaker 4: anie ages. Right, So there are two kind of categories, right,
Speaker 4: So we've got the anie ages, we've got the proactive proaging,
Speaker 4: positive aging. Early intervention is prevention. That is one of
Speaker 4: my philosophies in life. Why get the problem if you
Speaker 4: don't need it, get in early and keep yourself and
Speaker 4: your skin as good as it is for as long
Speaker 4: as you can, all right, So I would do exactly
Speaker 4: what you're saying. P size is all you need, but
Speaker 4: I would put over your moisturizer rather than mixing. When
Speaker 4: you start mixing, it's not a bad advice strategy if
Speaker 4: you're getting used to the retinoid, right, because for some
Speaker 4: people using it every single night and night it's a
Speaker 4: great time because we know it's photo unstable, so you
Speaker 4: don't want to break down the sunlight, so it's better
Speaker 4: off using it at night. So the problem is, though
Speaker 4: if you use it every night, for some people it
Speaker 4: gets a little bit too much too soon, so they're
Speaker 4: upregulating that sell turnover, and then the skin gets a
Speaker 4: bit flaky and people think they're having a bad reaction. No,
Speaker 4: you're just not uull it badly. Okay, so pull it back.
Speaker 4: So I prescribe to my patients Monday, Wednesday, Friday night
Speaker 4: a peace size over the night, cream over the top.
Speaker 4: They're going great like that for a month. I go,
Speaker 4: let's go every second night. That's going great. See here
Speaker 4: you go nightly, so you hy trate it. It's exactly
Speaker 4: how I prescribe oral vitamin A aka oral isotretinoe. We
Speaker 4: drip feed it, we get the body used to it,
Speaker 4: and we build it up. I don't get problems like
Speaker 4: when people google and they go onto line saying is
Speaker 4: my face going to fall off? No, it's not. Most
Speaker 4: of my consultation is spent literally debunking myths. Having a
Speaker 4: financial talk. Now you can just say basically, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: we don't. We're not going to extort you like you
Speaker 4: feel like you've been going on this treadmill with all
Speaker 4: these things you've been buying and misinformation, and let's go
Speaker 4: back to basics and get you feeling good. Abate yourself good,
Speaker 4: abate your skin with minimal side effects and maximal results.
Speaker 4: So I think what you're doing is amazing. Vitamin A
Speaker 4: is also lypophilic, which means it loves oily bases, so
Speaker 4: it's going to penetrate the skin better if you've literally prehydrating. Wow,
Speaker 4: so it services two Things'll.
Speaker 5: Be pretty hydrating every single time then because.
Speaker 4: Because he's lead, Yeah, and then you'll be learned. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it's definitely five out of five.
Speaker 2: How is it that these companies are able to sell
Speaker 2: these products? Like are they approved by a certain body
Speaker 2: or head or like do you know what?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to dermatology tested?
Speaker 4: But it doesn't say that's approve. It's a billion dollar industry.
Speaker 4: What happens when money is at stake?
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: We have some other buttons here which we might play
Speaker 4: with later. But yeah, it's it's a very deregulated market.
Speaker 4: So unfortunately there's not much regulation at all. That's scary.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see it across kind of a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of different categories. You've got hair, you've got skin,
Speaker 1: I mean, even make up. But I think when it
Speaker 1: comes to skin or hair, that's when it really matters
Speaker 1: a lot more because you can watch makeup off at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. I think, I mean in
Speaker 1: terms of our expertise, my expertise with hair, you see
Speaker 1: it so much in terms of products, and like I
Speaker 1: think we forget that you have skin on your head.
Speaker 3: Do you see a lot galp?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Hello, Well, part of the integumentary system, which is what
Speaker 4: dermatologists are experts os, is hair, skin, and nails. It's
Speaker 4: all connected. And so did you know the hair on
Speaker 4: your scalp or the skin I should say, the skin
Speaker 4: on your scalp is pretty much the same as the
Speaker 4: skin on your face and needs very similar care. So
Speaker 4: dandruff is like exma is overdrying. It's overwashing, same thing
Speaker 4: as you over wash your skins and wrong substances, wrong
Speaker 4: shampoos have too many suffactants that strip give you similar
Speaker 4: conditions on the scalps you get on your face.
Speaker 3: Wow, that makes a lot of.
Speaker 1: Sense because I've always I feel like I have a
Speaker 1: very healthy kind of scalp. And when does he was
Speaker 1: going through a lot of her skin issues, her hair
Speaker 1: was really struggling.
Speaker 3: My scal was terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it really is such a.
Speaker 2: Whole listening like the curly hair shampoos and they suck.
Speaker 4: They're not They're not like a ani inflammatory.
Speaker 3: It was an anti inflammatory. It's by Durkos. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you've heard of them.
Speaker 4: You can't stay off the chop my tongue.
Speaker 3: I mean, now my hair is like a good environment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great unless there's more. Don't wath too much,
Speaker 4: yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: I also cut back on that, so yeah, great, so yeah.
Speaker 4: In answer to your question, Jamie, yeah, they are extremely
Speaker 4: similar and they're connected and the same thing. Wow.
Speaker 2: For the people who are listening in today who are
Speaker 2: a bit lost with how to go about building a
Speaker 2: skin care regime, what would you suggest to them?
Speaker 4: Okay, great, Well, obviously you want to make sure you've
Speaker 4: got calm stable, non inflamed skin. So if you've been
Speaker 4: using lots of actives and it's a bit sensitive and
Speaker 4: flaky and red, calm it down by just getting rid
Speaker 4: of everything except very gentle cleansing and lots of moisturizing
Speaker 4: and more than more moisturized. A hydrated skin is always
Speaker 4: going to be more high functioning and performing than dehydrate
Speaker 4: or dry skin. Infect dry skin cre a ton of
Speaker 4: problems right, So I always think about three step routines.
Speaker 4: It's something that I've spent a couple of decades refining,
Speaker 4: realizing as patients came with me with junkets and bags products.
Speaker 4: Oh goodness, I'd be sitting there going, oh my god, no,
Speaker 4: wonder your skin looks like it's falling off your face.
Speaker 4: And also I had really bad skin diseases. I'm mathematic
Speaker 4: atopic x mark hay fever, and I had an autoimmune disease.
Speaker 4: It was very facially disfiguring. Probably why I end up
Speaker 4: in DURM because I make you end up in things
Speaker 4: to heal other people and you're trying to heal yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyway, so three things really the right cleanser, serum, moisturizing
Speaker 4: and then spit for morning and night I say, re
Speaker 4: cleansing different serum actives and then hydrating yet again. And
Speaker 4: also to all of your listeners, if you want to
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Speaker 4: name of Jesse and Jamie's podcast, we will send you
Speaker 4: out a sample pack kit of the three AM three PM,
Speaker 4: a little treatment pill once a week, and a couple
Speaker 4: of our new true fifty SPF mineral only chemical filter
Speaker 4: free some that's actually so amazing. Toot me eighteen years
Speaker 4: to get that one right. Whoao, because I don't want
Speaker 4: to use chemicals. I'm published sunscreen allergies that's another thing.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: So really, really everybody needs the right way to cleanse.
Speaker 4: Everyone needs moisturizer. But you know, if you're a bit dry,
Speaker 4: you're gonna need something more enriched. If you're a little
Speaker 4: bit more oiler, you're gonna see something lighter. We still
Speaker 4: need moisturizer because bled or not, moisturizer calms down oily skin.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of the way you think gentle cleansing.
Speaker 4: Don't strip anything that foams. Foaming substances create chaos for
Speaker 4: the skin, So we now know to protect the barrier
Speaker 4: but also remove impurities. You want something it doesn't foam,
Speaker 4: doesn't strip, and not beads or scrubs for the face
Speaker 4: can end up giving you barrier dysfunction breakouts.
Speaker 1: So we do want to clarify. Doctor Natachakook has its
Speaker 1: own skincare.
Speaker 4: Range Doctor NC. Yes, I'm abbreviate in my name, so
Speaker 4: I'm sort of like you know, so it's a little
Speaker 4: bit easier for people to digest. And also apparently it's
Speaker 4: been called a brand development Yeah, doctor NC, which is
Speaker 4: now what my peers call me as well. Yes, so
Speaker 4: we do have a skincare range. So I saw myself
Speaker 4: for somebody that as a consumer, as a female, as
Speaker 4: somebody's in the landscape, that I could integrate the two
Speaker 4: together and bring highly effective skincare with the writ ingredients,
Speaker 4: write concentrations and a handful of products to cut down
Speaker 4: the clutter out of your routine, but never compromising on
Speaker 4: quality and gives you results.
Speaker 1: That's so great.
Speaker 4: One two three one two three treatment peel once a week,
Speaker 4: and then obviously with the spifs that we're working on
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so great. So are they called one two
Speaker 1: three your products?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the AM one two three. We call it
Speaker 4: the total Transformation. Kick doesn't mean you have to use everything,
Speaker 4: because everybody's got to be a different budget. Some people
Speaker 4: might come in and obviously they'll be like, I don't
Speaker 4: really want to waste what i've got, so how can
Speaker 4: I start? We might say, well, look, they might start
Speaker 4: on the serums, or they might start with the one
Speaker 4: minute once a week Hibha microppeel and then they'll go
Speaker 4: all this is great, or they might even start with
Speaker 4: the SPF.
Speaker 1: You just have such an abundance of knowledge. The knowledge
Speaker 1: that you have and retain thanks incredible.
Speaker 4: I have global goosebumps right now, and I'm really honored
Speaker 4: to be here because I just love educating and I
Speaker 4: can sort of talk sometimes too much underwater it whar's
Speaker 4: the off button?
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 1: Know no, I mean, it's just I hope I can
Speaker 1: retain all of that information. I'm going to go and
Speaker 1: listen back like a million times to this episode. I'm
Speaker 1: really excited though, for this rapid fire around.
Speaker 4: Yes, so that's why we bought buttons. Okay, let's pry. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's the first. And there's always because often there is
Speaker 4: a because we don't live in a black, white world
Speaker 4: doing sometimes we need to work in the gray. I
Speaker 4: love that. Ready.
Speaker 1: Yes, is it okay to pop pimples?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Guys, tell all
Speaker 1: your boyfriends to stop popping their pimples.
Speaker 3: Is there a benefit to double cleansing.
Speaker 5: First?
Speaker 4: Maybe? Okay, I feel like it could be a.
Speaker 1: It could be a give us a time, like it's
Speaker 1: just a little leg one sentence.
Speaker 4: So, as we went through on the podcast, cleansing on
Speaker 4: the worst thing to do for your skin and set
Speaker 4: your skin up to fail. Some overcleansing is bad, but
Speaker 4: a gentle cleanser twice if you've got excessive makeup can
Speaker 4: be okay as long as it starts stripping. If your
Speaker 4: skin feels tight and try after your cleans you've got
Speaker 4: to rethink the process.
Speaker 1: Does make up make acne worse?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: Maybe depends on the makeup, depends on like the type
Speaker 1: of makeup you're using, but.
Speaker 4: More but more so, No, but a possible.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's so good?
Speaker 3: Okay, where'd you get them from?
Speaker 4: I love that? Yeah? I know. I really should have
Speaker 4: a bunch of three year olds to entertain them all
Speaker 4: day fun.
Speaker 3: Okay, does skin needling hill acne?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, I know this, I really thought it did. But
Speaker 1: it's better for scars maybe depending on the scars.
Speaker 4: As somebody who has a couple of million bucks with technologies.
Speaker 4: Some people collect fast cars, I collect lasers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 4: It's far more complex. But acne scars is huge and
Speaker 4: we're definitely an expert at the clinic, so I can
Speaker 4: talk about that.
Speaker 1: It's never simple, like, it's never black and white, and
Speaker 1: you can never listen to anyone online and be like, yes,
Speaker 1: that is the answer, because you and your own skin
Speaker 1: is so individual. Okay, this is kind of off the
Speaker 1: same question. Can I heal my acne scars?
Speaker 4: Tricky because watch your scars? Is it color or is
Speaker 4: it texture? Okay?
Speaker 3: Color for that texture?
Speaker 4: Oh, probably help from your friends, your dermatologist friends.
Speaker 3: Okay, should my summer skin care look different to winter?
Speaker 3: More hydration in winter? Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite questions, So, do LED face masks
Speaker 2: at my house do anything to reduce or heal acne
Speaker 2: scars as well?
Speaker 3: Because I've got one.
Speaker 1: You do have one, and they're quite expensive.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Look, obviously the LEDs, there's LED and there's LED, right.
Speaker 4: So the LEDs we're working with in our clinics, and
Speaker 4: depending on the wavelengths which repetitive US can be helpful
Speaker 4: to reduce inflammation and redness and heal up the acne process.
Speaker 4: But that's when you're doing a lot of other things
Speaker 4: as well. So is your little at home mask doing
Speaker 4: all the stuff that clinics and the ones that we've got,
Speaker 4: they're actually come from the medical lab in NASA. So
Speaker 4: the little light and they're twenty five thousand dollars what so, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's lad, there's led. Now. Do I think it's going
Speaker 4: to do harm? Probably? But is it really going to
Speaker 4: do everything that you might need? Maybe? So, however, not
Speaker 4: a bad thing to do and also good to relaxation.
Speaker 4: Probably not not.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this episode has been so incredible. I've learned so
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