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Speaker 1: Hello, super Coaches. It is week three of Super Coach Finals.

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Speaker 1: It is the preliminary final week. Wilson Smith is here

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Speaker 1: and traveling pretty well in finals so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my week one was like, you know, a decent

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Speaker 2: score but not the greatest. But last week I got

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Speaker 2: just under a thousand and it moved up from like

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Speaker 2: fourteenth thousandth to just in the top three thousand now,

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Speaker 2: so it was a good last week. Just now the

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Speaker 2: vice captaincy and captain C, which I think is going

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Speaker 2: to be the difference for this format.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the key, isn't it. Absolutely If you get

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Speaker 1: the VC and the C right, then you're doing well.

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Speaker 1: The winner last week put the captain on Paul Alamotti,

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Speaker 1: who I reckon about seven people in the entire fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand people playing the competition would have done. So the

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Speaker 1: pod plays are important for me. I'm sitting in a

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Speaker 1: teen hundred spots, so not too bad. I've nailed a

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Speaker 1: couple of pods and vcs, but of course if you

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Speaker 1: want to win the overall prize, you really need to

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Speaker 1: go after the pods. Speaking of which, the tactic I

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Speaker 1: think over the first two weeks has been shown that

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Speaker 1: you target the day game on the Sunday, certainly this weekend.

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Speaker 1: You look at Melbourne, it's going to be eighteen degrees

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Speaker 1: on Friday night, probably slippery conditions as well, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a light rain at that particular point. Then

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Speaker 1: you look at the Sunday clash. You've got the Panthers

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Speaker 1: versus the Brisbane Broncos up in Brisbane twenty eight degrees

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Speaker 1: that afternoon in a day game, so you've got to

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Speaker 1: get as many Broncos and Panthers into your team as possible.

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Speaker 1: You can only pick a maximum of three, so obviously

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Speaker 1: you're going to get load up on three Panthers, three Broncos,

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Speaker 1: and then from there, I think it's a bit of

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Speaker 1: a lottery.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I totally agree. I think the Storm Sharks

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Speaker 2: games definitely. Yeah, Like you said, it's the one to

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Speaker 2: try and minimize if he can. But I think looking

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Speaker 2: at a few positions, I think you still have to

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Speaker 2: pick a couple of guys from there. But my top pot, well,

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Speaker 2: I actually had a few guys in consideration for POD

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Speaker 2: this week. My first guy I sort of had a

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Speaker 2: brief look at was Billy Burns. Yes, he's sort of

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Speaker 2: we were talking about him before. He's sort of come

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Speaker 2: out of nowhere and it's starting over Britta Nicker. He's

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Speaker 2: just been that good. But I'm kind of scared off

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Speaker 2: that game now, So I think my another guy I

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Speaker 2: want to just briefly mention is Tyson Smoothie. If you

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Speaker 2: want to avoid Harry Grant or Blake Railey at hooker

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Speaker 2: for the first game. Tyson Smoothie is actually starting in

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Speaker 2: the back row, but I'm pretty sure he's available at hooker,

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Speaker 2: so it could be an option there, but just a

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Speaker 2: little bit concerned about the minutes. But so I think

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Speaker 2: my pot is actually going to be gem At Shubasaki

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Speaker 2: just like a really consistent guy with a lot of upside,

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Speaker 2: So I think that might be where I go.

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Speaker 1: I tend to agree with Shubasaki, except that I'm going

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Speaker 1: the center on the other side of the field. So

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Speaker 1: the weak side in defense for the Panthers is the

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Speaker 1: left hand side, where they considered all their tries against

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Speaker 1: the Bulldogs last weekend. Katony Stags is coming up against

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Speaker 1: that edge. So he got McLain who's carrying an injury,

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Speaker 1: plus Sorenson who didn't look great in defense on the weekend,

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Speaker 1: and Blakes Talangy. He's been a bit of a target too,

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Speaker 1: so I reckon that Katony could go big with Adam

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Speaker 1: Reynolds back into the team as well. So Adam Reynolds

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Speaker 1: is going to be feeding him this week. I know

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Speaker 1: that the left is traditionally the better side for the

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Speaker 1: Broncos with Reese Walsh going down that edge, but with

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Speaker 1: Reynolds back, I think Katony Stags could go huge against

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Speaker 1: a poor defensive side, relatively poor defensive side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's especially in the back end of the season,

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Speaker 2: he really sort of stepped up a bit and was

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Speaker 2: becoming more involved in games, So yeah, this could be

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Speaker 2: a game that he goes big in as well.

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Speaker 1: I also think Ben Hunt could be a sneaky one

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Speaker 1: as well. He's averaging in the sixties over his last

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Speaker 1: six games. A bit of a different role this week,

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Speaker 1: he probably plays a bit of hooker because they've got

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Speaker 1: Ezra Man on the bench and Adam Reynolds is back

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Speaker 1: as well. But I actually like hi mate hooker in

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Speaker 1: big games because I like what he's done for Queensland

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Speaker 1: in that position. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, for sure, He's not someone I've really looked at,

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Speaker 2: but definitely someone I will have to have another geeze out.

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Speaker 1: So let's go quick rules breakdown. So you can only

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Speaker 1: have three players from every club, a maximum of three.

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Speaker 1: So as I've said, I'm going to load up on

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Speaker 1: Broncos and Panthers, and then I think in the forward pack,

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Speaker 1: I'll be going from the other game, guys like Harry Grant,

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Speaker 1: Early Katoa, etc. Then next week we get four play

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Speaker 1: in the Grand Final four players, so it's a fifty

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Speaker 1: to fifty split for eight players all up or from

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Speaker 1: each team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I think loading up on Panthers and

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Speaker 2: Broncos is the way to go this week.

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Speaker 1: So at Hooker, it's a tough call. I reckon it's

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Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty call between Harry Grant and Blake Brayley.

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Speaker 1: Which way are you leaning?

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Speaker 2: It's tough because I think they they're both pretty, they're

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Speaker 2: both very safe, and the fact that it's we're going

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Speaker 2: to be a wet, low scoring game, I think the

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Speaker 2: base will be there and they'll both be making a

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Speaker 2: lot of tackles. To me, it comes down to sort

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Speaker 2: of ownership. I may just end up going with whichever

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Speaker 2: of the two is less owned, just to you know,

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Speaker 2: be a bit of a Pod, but I do think

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Speaker 2: Harry Grant has more upside even if the conditions are bad.

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Speaker 2: So I think I'm leaning Harry Grant at the moment,

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Speaker 2: but I'll probably end up just going with whoever is

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Speaker 2: less owned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, it's Harry Grant. Just the big game

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Speaker 1: experience is huge, and we've seen what he's done in

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Speaker 1: big games this year, particularly in Origin, so I'm leaning

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Speaker 1: just towards him, even though Brayley has been probably the

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Speaker 1: form hooker in Super Coach this year. Onto front row,

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Speaker 1: can you go anyone other than Payhass I mean what

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Speaker 1: one hundreds in his last match two weeks ago. He

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Speaker 1: had an ankle injury. In that game, he had three

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Speaker 1: stints on the field, so he is coming off and

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Speaker 1: on all the time, but still scored one hundred. I

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Speaker 1: just I don't think he can go anywhere else. He's

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Speaker 1: so much better than anyone else in that slot. So

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Speaker 1: I know that I want to go with big attacking

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Speaker 1: players from the Broncos in the back line, but for me,

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Speaker 1: paying hals Is. You know, he's equally as good an

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Speaker 1: attacking player as some of those folks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only argument around not picking him

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Speaker 2: would be if you want to load up on a

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Speaker 2: few other Broncos in particular, But I think I do

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Speaker 2: think you just have to lock him in adf nol Blake.

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Speaker 2: It could be potentially another option, but the fact that,

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Speaker 2: like we just just said that the weather it doesn't

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Speaker 2: look like it's going to be that great for that game,

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Speaker 2: I think that limits his upside a bit. So I

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Speaker 2: really do think that pay Hass is just a lock.

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Speaker 1: Well, AFB needs to score tries and he's very good

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Speaker 1: at doing that, but is he going to do it

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Speaker 1: against the Storm in Melbourne? I don't think so. So

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Speaker 1: you've just got to lock in pain Hears and I'm

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Speaker 1: almost certain that he'll be the most popular player this week,

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Speaker 1: except for perhaps at halfback with Nathan Cleary. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that in the sick at two RF. I think

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Speaker 1: this is a great right slot to fit in someone

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Speaker 1: from that Shark Storm game, So I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: with Ellie Katawa. Look again, big Games, he goes, well,

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Speaker 1: he's an international player running off Jerome Hughes back in

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Speaker 1: the team, So we're running off Jerome Hughes, which is

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Speaker 1: a big boost for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hughes being back for him is absolutely massive. And

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Speaker 2: I have Katoa locked in for now as well, but

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Speaker 2: I do I think I may load up on a

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Speaker 2: few other Panthers. But I do like Isaaayo in that

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Speaker 2: game as well, So it for me, it depends on

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Speaker 2: who I end up going with at center et set

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Speaker 2: a wing. If if I go with a Panther or

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Speaker 2: a Bronco or if I go with a Panther, I

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Speaker 2: may not go Isaia Yo and the forward pack, but

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Speaker 2: I do like him as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Yo. I had him last week and

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Speaker 1: he kind of like as good as he was, he

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Speaker 1: didn't get in on the big attacking stats, so he

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Speaker 1: gets cut this week because I've got all my Panthers

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Speaker 1: are in the big attacking slots and exactly any love

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Speaker 1: Fatigue Wilton right on the weekend with that little gravel

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Speaker 1: and Chase or Billy Burns as your boy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like both of them. But I think

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Speaker 2: it just depends on the weather for me that I

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Speaker 2: think that that game, and I do think it is

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Speaker 2: even if it's the weather's fine, I do think that

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Speaker 2: would just be a low scoring, really intense finals type

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Speaker 2: game of footy. So I'm kind of fading the Sharks

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Speaker 2: forwards a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit yep. Yeah for me, I still think it's

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Speaker 1: a good slot to get some sort of steady forward

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Speaker 1: in the back line, such as Nathan Cleary, who, let's

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Speaker 1: face it, everyone's going to own him. Most people are

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Speaker 1: going to put the captaincy on him. If you want

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Speaker 1: to get a decent finish in Super Coach Finals, you

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Speaker 1: probably have to do that. If you want to win

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Speaker 1: the prize, the major prize, then you probably have to

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Speaker 1: take some sort of pot option. Like the winner last week.

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Speaker 1: He went with Ala Motti.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, insane. I do like Nathan Cleary at half back,

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Speaker 2: and he's probably who I'm just going to lock in.

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Speaker 2: I think he could go big. I actually had Nico

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Speaker 2: Hines as my starting half back last week and had

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Speaker 2: Cleary in my flex, which played out well. But I

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Speaker 2: think so. Some people may be tempted to go with

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Speaker 2: Nico over his after his score last week, but I

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Speaker 2: do think that clear is just the way to go.

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Speaker 2: This week. Nico may struggle a bit more against a storm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nico against the storm. I've got a cross against him.

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Speaker 1: Jerome Hughes, as much as I love him, coming back

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Speaker 1: from we think we know, we think that he's carrying

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Speaker 1: a shoulder injury. Plus he's coming back at least a

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Speaker 1: week or maybe even too early from a broken wrist.

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Speaker 1: I'd be worried about Jerome Hughes as well, So for me,

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Speaker 1: you just have to go cleary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he is named, but there is

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Speaker 2: every chance that he won't end up actually starting, so

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Speaker 2: there's question marks around him for me. Same with Adam.

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Speaker 1: Reynolds at five eight, a tough position because it's been

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Speaker 1: one of the poorer positions for super Coach this year.

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Speaker 1: The obvious option Cameron Munster, who we know can go

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Speaker 1: big in big games, just loves that type of atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: But as we've been saying, that game in Melbourne could

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Speaker 1: be a bit low scoring.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think in the last two weeks, I

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Speaker 2: think my five eight has been my player who's dropped

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Speaker 2: with the lowest score each week, so it's been a

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Speaker 2: bit of a non factor. But I think, purely because

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Speaker 2: I want players at other positions in the other game,

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Speaker 2: I think I will be going with Munster at this stage.

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Speaker 2: I think that he is just really safe, even if

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Speaker 2: you know it's a tough matchup. I think cam Munster

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Speaker 2: could still be you have a really solid floor.

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Speaker 1: Look, I've got Monster. At the moment, I think Blaze

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure, I definitely need to have a

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Speaker 1: If he starts, then absolutely he becomes a huge option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean him and Paul al Maldi would probably

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've talked myself into Katoni Staggs. Actually yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I'll be avoiding, yeah, And I think it is

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Speaker 1: Yep, onto your flex. So I mean I'm going res

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Speaker 1: Captain and vice Captain, what are you locking in?

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean we've talked about it the whole point.

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Speaker 1: I think, like, I know that you want us to

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Speaker 1: I think that is the way to go as well.

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Speaker 1: Big thanks to Wilson Smith. Will be back next week

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Speaker 1: for Grand Final week. We'll see you then