WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 4 August 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:05.200 From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.880 Thank you Duneka, thank you James, and welcome to the 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:09.760 start of another big. 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:11.159 Week here on Pomme Live. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:13.640 Remember you can always seriously the show and never forget. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.079 The podcast is also available if for whatever reason you 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.960 happen to miss it Gold, Silver or Bronze, feel free 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.560 go to skynies dot com dot Au. Now let's go 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:24.799 back to the issue that I know plenty of Australians 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.000 worried about, not just cost of living, but specifically the 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.360 cost of power. Now, for obvious reasons, it's not up 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.440 to you whether you opt in or out of this system. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.120 If you want the lights to work, then you have 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.080 to pay the basic fees to be able to get 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:38.080 access to the networking. 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.000 And it feels like no matter how stingy you are 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:42.120 with the number of lights that. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:43.839 Are on, or how long you run the air conditioner 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.199 or which hour of which day, the bills just. 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.519 Keep going up. But that's something I want to talk 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:49.040 about tonight. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.680 What I want to talk about tonight is the latest 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:56.560 policy from the Labor Party that is about your power bill. Now, 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.840 remember May twenty twenty two, This was the promise if 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:01.280 you voted for the Labor. 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:06.319 Party deducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.840 By twenty twenty five, two hundred and seventy five dollars 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:09.520 a year. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.880 Two hundred and seventy five dollars a year will. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.479 Get power prices down by two hundred and seventy five 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:16.280 dollars a year. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.080 Now, that policy was always never going to happen, which 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.640 means it was a lie, at the very least a 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.119 broken promise. But of course nobody in the press gallery 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.399 is going to call it a broken promise, because after all, 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.600 this is the reason why the thing they promised has 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:31.200 not happened. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.319 The number you're referring to is a forecast in twenty 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.880 one about an outcome in twenty five. We're providing energy 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:40.600 bill relief in the here and now, we did in 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.959 the last budget, we are again in the next budget. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.280 But there'll be more relief for more people in this budget. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.760 So just the modeling hand change ever so slightly, so 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:53.520 it doesn't really count. Imagine we will stop the boats. 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.000 The boats don't just keep coming, they get worse on 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.240 But the modeling that we've done on the boats, we 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.800 can't promise to stop them anymore then. Of course at 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:08.040 this budget there was seventy five dollars every three months, 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.639 twenty five dollars every month, a promise which will only 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:13.880 go for one year. 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.120 From July one, Australians will receive an energy rebate of 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.800 three hundred dollars and one million small businesses will get 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:23.480 a little bit more. 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.280 Yeah, thanks, scoop. You maybe we'll be saying we've heard 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.520 all of this before, Paul. Why the start of tonight's 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.000 show will let me explain, of course, Chris Bowen, who 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.480 believes that well every solution is renewable energy and there's 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:40.280 no cost of transition, there's only the consequence of transition. Well, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:41.760 he's got his knickers in a twist today and he 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.040 got a bit of help from a very friendly journalist today, 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:48.680 very friendly journalist today, because Peter Dutton had said this 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.000 at the Liberal parties. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.200 Chris Bowen was part of the team with Anthony Obernezi 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.200 that promised on ninety seven occasions before the election to 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.680 reduce power prices by one hundred. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:01.320 And seventy five dollars. 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.880 Since then, power prices have gone up by one thousand dollars. 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.080 Now you and I know this to be the truth. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:09.880 You and I know, and I said. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.760 This at the time when they were making up that 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.280 half a million jobs were going to fall from the 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.720 sky and two hundred seventy five dollars power bill reduction 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.520 off where we were in May of twenty twenty two, 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.960 that if you can find the bill from just before 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.040 the last election, and if the power bill was two 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.280 hundred and seventy five dollars lower than that number, then 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:28.640 you should definitely vote labor. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.320 But we all know way higher. Now. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.400 Quite amazingly, there are people like Chris Bowen who are 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.760 trying to pretend that no, no, the number can be nowhere 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:42.240 near what we are saying here. It can be nowhere 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.840 near one thousand dollars, because if you actually have a 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:47.960 look at the retail price of this state, to the 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.840 point being, of course, that one hundred dollars each and 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.920 every month extra ends up being one thousand dollars extra 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.720 that you've had to pay. But via a very friendly 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.000 journalist today, Chris Bowen is. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.320 Out right saying not true. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.720 So first the promise was we're going to reduce it 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.000 by two seventy five. Then the modeling changed, which means 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.160 the promise was never real. Then they came up with 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.600 the band aid to get them through an election, and 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:13.320 now it's just. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.720 Na not true. I know you are, but what am I? 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.960 This is the political genius, the four D chess that 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.560 goes on in the mind of the climate change minister, he. 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.320 Said to the paper. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.440 So this was all a whole sort of stitch up 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.599 from the Channel one newspapers today. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:31.760 This was their story they. 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.560 Came up with, or they were echoing the story that 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.680 was coming their way from the minister. They claim it's 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:37.280 only about. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:38.160 Four hundred and fifty dollars. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.400 Bowen told this masthead that Dutton did not quote, have 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.320 a single data point to support his claim. It's just 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.760 a deliberate lie when it comes to energy. I find 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:50.000 that Peter Dutton just makes things up. Oh you want 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.480 to go there about who's just making stuff up? 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:55.280 In this conversation. 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.440 Now we know that the Prime Minister and his climate 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:02.000 change minister, they believe that Australia must reduce forty three 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:06.760 percent of one percent of global emissions. China, of course, 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.440 can do whatever it wants and increase the level thirty 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.280 times more than we do between now and twenty thirty 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.280 to get there in part, as you know, we can 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.520 just completely change from one electricity grid to another one 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.880 that won't be as reliable. But don't tell anyone. There's 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.760 no cost of transition. Everything is awesome. Everything is a 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:28.800 shiny or windy day now. Interestingly, Bowen, when talking about 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.279 the two seventy five stuff and his pushback on it, 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.719 gives us a little bit of detail that we didn't 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:38.120 know at the time. You see the Prime Minister and 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.000 albow Long said yeah, two seventy five, and they made 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.440 this announcement when they named their policy in twenty twenty two. 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.920 But have a look today again in the very friendly 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:51.800 article that was there for anyone to see. It's modeling 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.159 the impact of our policies done in twenty twenty for 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.200 five years into the future. So this is interesting. They 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:58.560 had the number and they were sitting on it since 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:02.000 twenty twenty. They only announced it twenty twenty two, knowing 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.960 that the time had already started to run out on it. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.960 There would be challenges as we've come to office, like 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.680 the ongoing energy crisis around the world, like the impact 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.640 of a war on Ukraine. 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.160 Only problem is, as I've told you many. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:20.320 Times before, the announcement of the target and the over 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.839 commitment when it came to renewables. It took place just 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.719 before the election in twenty twenty two. But guess what, 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:35.360 it also happened before Ukraine invaded Russia. Sorry, the other 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:40.040 way around, I apologize. Russia invaded Ukraine. So the reality 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.520 is that this doesn't even work. See, they told us 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:47.680 two seventy five, they had known that the invasion was part. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:48.120 Of the picture. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:54.360 Yet of course they pay no attention whatsoever. Instead, of course, 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.120 the Liberal Party quite correctly turns around and says that 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.279 the CSIRO they told us it was a trillion dollars, 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.080 then half a trillion dollars. Green groups have told us 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.520 two trillion dollars. But the whole point is to go 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.279 from the system that was our main electricity network to 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.240 the one that they hope to be the electricity network 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.200 into the future, so that we can cut forty three 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.160 percent of one percent of global emissions, so they can 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.480 bid for a UN Climate conference, so we can do 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:22.000 our bit for climate change. It look cost well, at 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.760 least are trillion dollars. This is in part what the 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.280 liberal parties say about why your bills have gone through 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.120 the roof because you see the very energy companies that 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.800 have to spend all of that money, Well, they have 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.360 to eventually charge somebody for it. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.160 I guess did they charge us? 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.200 Anthony ALBERNIZI was telling them he was going to reduce 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.440 power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars each year, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.560 and instead the power prices have gone up by one 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.360 thousand dollars. And the renewables only approach of the government, 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:51.360 it's just not working. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.960 And then this time last week and again look I 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.960 get it, there's the big event, you know, the sporting carnival, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.000 athletics carnival happening right now in Paris, where majority of 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.240 people are. But it is extraordinary how the people whose 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.800 job it is to talk about politics never call out 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.880 the context, the reality or the lie of this government. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.240 They also very selective in the types of polling that 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:19.080 starts to echo around the universe. It means that the 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.520 only time you're going to start to hear some of 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.880 this stuff is if you watch programs like this, which 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.080 is ironically why the very same people who don't do 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.560 the job are the ones who would most like us 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:29.520 to be pushed off the air. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.240 Jeez, No, connection whatsoever. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.160 Well, remember last week James Morrow wrote an excellent piece 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.800 in the Daily Telegraph, in the Herald Sun and in 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.199 the Courier Mail. According to the research which had been 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.360 revealed by the polling firm Redbridge, fifty four percent of 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.400 all voters agree with the statement that labours rush to 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.560 increase the amount of wind and solar is driving bills 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.480 and I quote through the roof. Fifty four percent of 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.360 Australians agree with that sentiment, which means they agree with 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.560 our argument, which means they are following the data. Yet 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.040 of course no one anywhere in and around the press gallery. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:09.679 Could possibly double check to push forward, because of course. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.040 The narrative is that anyone other than those who believe 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.320 we should have made the change yesterday is somehow anti 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:19.079 climate change. No the cost of transition, let alone the 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:23.400 change to the atmosphere, to the landscape, etc. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.920 Etc. Of many places in regional Australia's what's worth noting here. 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.320 Again, back to that arguicle, though some fifty nine percent 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.440 of people whose houses have less than one thousand dollars 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.040 a week coming in, fifty nine percent agree with the 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:35.640 sentiment that the bills are going through the roof because 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.319 of their policies. But you know, nothing to see here. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:43.120 Apparently it's all just a lie. Now, I'm so tired 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.840 of this. We see it everything from the American election, 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.840 state politics, and our federal politics. Which is that when 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.240 you saw what you saw between with your own eyes, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.880 you heard what you heard with your own ears, you. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.599 Have read and seen and lived the experience. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.280 I don't know, it's all just a lie because apparently 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.400 everything magically went down by what they promised, that they 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.679 turned out had two fingers behind their back when they 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.080 made the promise, or it's all completely papered over with 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.679 a less than twelve month solution, which by the way, 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.280 applies to the biggest mansion to the tiniest of houses, 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.560 all the same three hundred bucks. 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:21.719 Nothing to see. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.840 Now, Let's talk about Tony Burke, because there's a bit 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.440 around him today. Tony Burke, of course, who is the 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.280 Arts Minister who's in charge of the borders, because he's 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:36.120 also the Home Affairs Minister, because of course they're the 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.640 same job, aren't they. He just got the job last 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.920 week and he's already starting to fiddle around on things 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:45.319 on the edges, including an interesting move to give permanent, 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.080 permanent visas to people who had come from Palestine in 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:55.439 the past couple of months, since Israel's response to October seventh. Now, 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.200 what I find interesting about this is for obvious reasons, 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.960 they are saying the reason people can't go home is 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.559 because there is no home to go to. I mean, anyone, 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.840 regardless of your interpretation, your perspective, you would know that 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.960 like building after building after building has to been completely 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.640 pummeled in and around places like Gaza. Now, normally people 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:19.920 would end up getting not permanent but temporary protection visas 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:24.880 until the war ended. But no, funnily enough, Tony Burke 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.320 has found a way to make the maybe into permanent. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:30.840 This is what he said today here on Schoing News. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.520 People arrived on visitor visas and the government was right 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.880 to use that visa. It was the easiest visa to 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:44.000 be able to deal within a situation of absolute immediate crisis. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.119 Where now in a situation where over time those visas 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.120 are reaching their expiring date and there's a decision of 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.079 government that hasn't been taken yet. So I don't have 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.680 an announcement to be able to make, but a decision 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.640 of government as to what the next step is for 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.079 those individuals. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.640 But see what's particularly cute about this announcement. And look, 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.720 obviously I want people to be safe. If they decide 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.840 and would like to stay here longer than the conflicts 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.160 taking place, good luck to them, right as long as 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.960 they make all of the checks. I've got no problems 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:19.040 with that. But what I find quite infuriating is the 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.480 slipperiness of this blow. And he's going to be hailed 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.160 a good performer. But you see, there used to be 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:28.280 the temporary visa or visitors visa. There used to be, 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:32.080 of course, the temporary protection visa, and then there was 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.960 the full time visa. Well, this government of course got 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.480 rid of the bit in the middle, taking out one 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:42.280 of the three things holding up operation sovereign borders. So 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:47.080 essentially the choices are the short term visa, which mostly 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.560 tourists would use, or trump straight over to the full 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.120 time Because many people came in on the visitors visa, 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:57.400 they're starting to run out rather than just reissuing that visa, 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.560 I don't know, We're just got to automatically move to 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.040 the permit solution here. 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:03.280 Again, this has nothing to do. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.800 With the cohort or the reason they are here, but 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:10.000 about the rather not so subtle games being played by 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.920 a bloke who will just play the same straight bat 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.199 that again, we have seen how many times from how 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.360 many politicians where now you just never meet your wrong, 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.760 never meet your wrong, no matter what happens, never meet 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:21.200 you're wrong. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:23.480 And then we wonder why. 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.280 People get frustrated and they end up turning two different 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.720 political options than the more traditional ones. There's putting your 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.319 scene in all of this watch it now. Interestingly, though interestingly, 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.960 Tony Burke was being discussed as a potential prime minister 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.040 today in some of the press, and this of course 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:46.200 will be news to some people like the Prime Minister. Now, 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.280 the Prime Minister has every expectation that he win the 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.079 next twenty eight elections and he'll live forever and everyone 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.440 loves him, and therefore he will be the first person 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.520 to leave after his fifteenth election and he won't suffer 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.360 the same fate every other politician always ends up suffering, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.160 which is the ate their choice when they eventually end 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.760 up going well, of course, the assumption would be that Grimjim, 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.720 the Treasurer, who's done so much to solve cost of living, 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.080 hasn't he Well, he's of course the bloke who well, 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.680 he just would slide in straight in there in fifteen 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:21.440 elections time. Now, of course, on there his own assumption. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.800 He's not a guy who can do things by harves. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.040 In fact, in a very friendly profile piece which was 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.400 delivered again by the Channel nine newspapers, here was that 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:32.800 he doesn't do anything in moderation. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.560 You see, this is why he got off the booze. Interestingly, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.480 just there was a couple of paragraphs there. 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.240 I remarked that there was a bit of talk about 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:46.240 cutting a bit loose socially my words around Parliament House 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.480 because I was drinking too much. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.000 He answers bluntly, Was it another reason for you giving 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.400 it up? Not really, I knew that if I wanted. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.640 To do a big, serious job, I couldn't keep drinking 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.840 six or seven nights a week. Basically, there's a lot 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:05.280 of weight in some of those words, in some of 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:11.000 those sentences inside a couple of those paragraphs. What does 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.040 cutting a bit loose socially mean? But of course it 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.160 doesn't matter. We don't follow that. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:16.840 There's nothing in the past, there's nothing in the future, 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:17.680 there's nothing in the present. 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:21.520 Everything's fine. We all just keep moving forward. So you 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.920 would think it's Jim Chalmers, right, But no, no, apparently it's 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.760 going to be Tony Burke, who is next in line 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.240 to Elbow's throne again in fifteen elections time. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.640 I wouldn't dare want to suggest that this is a. 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.240 Prime minister whose current approval rating is oh, that's right, 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.920 lower than his approval rating is his disapproval? Oh sorry, 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.400 so more people disapprove of our bow, more people. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.600 That's not true. Oh, it's true in the news poll, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.120 it's true in what all the other ones? That's not possible. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.760 Well, apparently Tony Burke, according to someone writing a thing 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:56.560 in the fin Review today, has his eyes on a 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.200 job that comes after Home Affairs now, of course, after 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.280 he's been in the job for fifteen elections in a row. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.360 But Burke is sure to receive more of the sky 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.320 after dark treatment by virtue of his portfolio and a 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:13.160 possible future contender for labor leadership. You see, what a 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.600 nice little way again for a sentence to do a 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.080 lot of lifting here, to do a lot of the 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:20.960 carrying of the point that's trying to be made here. 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.800 Oh so subtly is that you see those of us 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.720 in sky in his primetime. Who are the ones who 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.960 point out things like the reason you've moved people to 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.400 permanent status is because you knocked out the temporary status. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.280 I no, no, we're only doing that because apparently he's 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:41.920 a potential labour PM. No, it's just because it's the truth. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.040 And I don't care what bs they want to serve 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.920 everyone else or what other drip feed every other journalist 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.080 is on. We will tell you the truth about what 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.440 they are doing, which is why I always say. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.160 That they're going to win fifteen elections in a row 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:55.440 rule forever. Right. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.480 But then Spira thought for old mate Chris Bowen. I mean, 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.160 he's just he's doing the lord's work at the moment, 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.840 isn't he saving Australia from forty three percent of one 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:09.040 percent of global emissions? The one who just says that 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:10.679 even if your power bill has been going. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.840 Up, No, no, that's just all a lie. They just 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:13.640 make stuff up. 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:19.840 Now, remember after the two and nineteen debacle where Chris 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.399 Bowen successfully advised people that if they didn't like some 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.120 of the tax policies of the Labor government, all supported 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:29.720 by the way by Albert Burke and everyone else. But 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.960 memory hole, none of this matters, None of this matters. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.720 He of course ran for the Labor leadership. Here he 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:38.840 was out the front of his house, I think in 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.200 twenty nineteen, an old family house of course. Oh, because 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.920 I'm one of you and you're one of me. Right Anyway, 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:51.159 he withdrew from the race within twenty nine hours. So 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.840 if we're talking about potential leadership people, we should probably 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.800 pay attention to a poll that came out in Newspoll 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.200 just a couple of weeks ago, which is who should 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:03.639 leave the Labour Party. Less than a third of Australians 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.600 believe that Anthony Abernezi should lead the Labor Party. Sure, 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.879 sixty percent of labor people. But what forty percent of 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:12.640 labor people don't think Albo should be the leader. Plubacepi 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:17.880 is next to thirteen, shortened to ten, Charmers is at eight, 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.800 Miles is at four, and Bowen is it two. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.960 Guess who's not at all on the list anywhere, Tony Burke. Oh, 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.920 but that's just this going after die place. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.240 The politics of housing will in part determine what is 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.480 going to happen at the upcoming federal election when it 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.959 comes to things like renters. The Greens that's how they 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.000 think they're going to be able to get the Labor Party. 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.080 For people who believe that we should be cutting back 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.120 on immigration and maybe even holding back on foreign buyers, 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:50.280 well that's where the Liberal. 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:51.240 Party is going to come and get them. 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.679 But one thing that is absolutely creating quite the concern 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.399 for the government is interest rates. 0:18:57.960 --> 0:18:59.879 Because interest rates, as you know, have gone up. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:05.840 Total of one times under the Liberal National Party and 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.920 twelve times under the Labor Party. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.000 Nothing to see here right now. The good thing is 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:13.520 because of. 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.800 Some of the details in and around the more complicated 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.360 parts of the inflation numbers that even though inflation went up, 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.200 apparently it's a near certainty according to experts, that it 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.360 won't be rising when they have a meeting this week. Now, 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.800 that's good, but if anyone wants to turn around employees, 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.919 if the media runs this garbage relief for homeowners because 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.560 interest rates didn't go up, guess what they need a 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.760 lot more than it not getting worse to be defined 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:42.440 as relief, because people who are paying off a house 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.760 right now, one that they may will have purchased at 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.680 an auction or as sale no matter how you get 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:48.600 to it, or the person who's trying to pay off 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:52.680 the rental property or investment property that is currently being 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:53.480 lets out to. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.280 People will guess what the increases. 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:58.480 In the amount that they are paying in their mortgages 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:03.280 is astronomical. In fact, Australia supersized mortgages climbed one hundred 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:09.040 and fifty four dollars a day, one hundred and fifty 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.119