Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Thank you Duneka, thank you James, and welcome to the
Speaker 2: start of another big.
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Speaker 2: back to the issue that I know plenty of Australians
Speaker 2: worried about, not just cost of living, but specifically the
Speaker 2: cost of power. Now, for obvious reasons, it's not up
Speaker 2: to you whether you opt in or out of this system.
Speaker 2: If you want the lights to work, then you have
Speaker 2: to pay the basic fees to be able to get
Speaker 2: access to the networking.
Speaker 1: And it feels like no matter how stingy you are
Speaker 1: with the number of lights that.
Speaker 2: Are on, or how long you run the air conditioner
Speaker 2: or which hour of which day, the bills just.
Speaker 1: Keep going up. But that's something I want to talk
Speaker 1: about tonight.
Speaker 2: What I want to talk about tonight is the latest
Speaker 2: policy from the Labor Party that is about your power bill. Now,
Speaker 2: remember May twenty twenty two, This was the promise if
Speaker 2: you voted for the Labor.
Speaker 3: Party deducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
Speaker 4: By twenty twenty five, two hundred and seventy five dollars
Speaker 4: a year.
Speaker 3: Two hundred and seventy five dollars a year will.
Speaker 4: Get power prices down by two hundred and seventy five
Speaker 4: dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Now, that policy was always never going to happen, which
Speaker 2: means it was a lie, at the very least a
Speaker 2: broken promise. But of course nobody in the press gallery
Speaker 2: is going to call it a broken promise, because after all,
Speaker 2: this is the reason why the thing they promised has
Speaker 2: not happened.
Speaker 4: The number you're referring to is a forecast in twenty
Speaker 4: one about an outcome in twenty five. We're providing energy
Speaker 4: bill relief in the here and now, we did in
Speaker 4: the last budget, we are again in the next budget.
Speaker 4: But there'll be more relief for more people in this budget.
Speaker 2: So just the modeling hand change ever so slightly, so
Speaker 2: it doesn't really count. Imagine we will stop the boats.
Speaker 2: The boats don't just keep coming, they get worse on
Speaker 2: But the modeling that we've done on the boats, we
Speaker 2: can't promise to stop them anymore then. Of course at
Speaker 2: this budget there was seventy five dollars every three months,
Speaker 2: twenty five dollars every month, a promise which will only
Speaker 2: go for one year.
Speaker 4: From July one, Australians will receive an energy rebate of
Speaker 4: three hundred dollars and one million small businesses will get
Speaker 4: a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, scoop. You maybe we'll be saying we've heard
Speaker 2: all of this before, Paul. Why the start of tonight's
Speaker 2: show will let me explain, of course, Chris Bowen, who
Speaker 2: believes that well every solution is renewable energy and there's
Speaker 2: no cost of transition, there's only the consequence of transition. Well,
Speaker 2: he's got his knickers in a twist today and he
Speaker 2: got a bit of help from a very friendly journalist today,
Speaker 2: very friendly journalist today, because Peter Dutton had said this
Speaker 2: at the Liberal parties.
Speaker 5: Chris Bowen was part of the team with Anthony Obernezi
Speaker 5: that promised on ninety seven occasions before the election to
Speaker 5: reduce power prices by one hundred.
Speaker 1: And seventy five dollars.
Speaker 5: Since then, power prices have gone up by one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Now you and I know this to be the truth.
Speaker 1: You and I know, and I said.
Speaker 2: This at the time when they were making up that
Speaker 2: half a million jobs were going to fall from the
Speaker 2: sky and two hundred seventy five dollars power bill reduction
Speaker 2: off where we were in May of twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: that if you can find the bill from just before
Speaker 2: the last election, and if the power bill was two
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five dollars lower than that number, then
Speaker 2: you should definitely vote labor.
Speaker 1: But we all know way higher. Now.
Speaker 2: Quite amazingly, there are people like Chris Bowen who are
Speaker 2: trying to pretend that no, no, the number can be nowhere
Speaker 2: near what we are saying here. It can be nowhere
Speaker 2: near one thousand dollars, because if you actually have a
Speaker 2: look at the retail price of this state, to the
Speaker 2: point being, of course, that one hundred dollars each and
Speaker 2: every month extra ends up being one thousand dollars extra
Speaker 2: that you've had to pay. But via a very friendly
Speaker 2: journalist today, Chris Bowen is.
Speaker 1: Out right saying not true.
Speaker 2: So first the promise was we're going to reduce it
Speaker 2: by two seventy five. Then the modeling changed, which means
Speaker 2: the promise was never real. Then they came up with
Speaker 2: the band aid to get them through an election, and
Speaker 2: now it's just.
Speaker 1: Na not true. I know you are, but what am I?
Speaker 2: This is the political genius, the four D chess that
Speaker 2: goes on in the mind of the climate change minister, he.
Speaker 1: Said to the paper.
Speaker 2: So this was all a whole sort of stitch up
Speaker 2: from the Channel one newspapers today.
Speaker 1: This was their story they.
Speaker 2: Came up with, or they were echoing the story that
Speaker 2: was coming their way from the minister. They claim it's
Speaker 2: only about.
Speaker 1: Four hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: Bowen told this masthead that Dutton did not quote, have
Speaker 2: a single data point to support his claim. It's just
Speaker 2: a deliberate lie when it comes to energy. I find
Speaker 2: that Peter Dutton just makes things up. Oh you want
Speaker 2: to go there about who's just making stuff up?
Speaker 1: In this conversation.
Speaker 2: Now we know that the Prime Minister and his climate
Speaker 2: change minister, they believe that Australia must reduce forty three
Speaker 2: percent of one percent of global emissions. China, of course,
Speaker 2: can do whatever it wants and increase the level thirty
Speaker 2: times more than we do between now and twenty thirty
Speaker 2: to get there in part, as you know, we can
Speaker 2: just completely change from one electricity grid to another one
Speaker 2: that won't be as reliable. But don't tell anyone. There's
Speaker 2: no cost of transition. Everything is awesome. Everything is a
Speaker 2: shiny or windy day now. Interestingly, Bowen, when talking about
Speaker 2: the two seventy five stuff and his pushback on it,
Speaker 2: gives us a little bit of detail that we didn't
Speaker 2: know at the time. You see the Prime Minister and
Speaker 2: albow Long said yeah, two seventy five, and they made
Speaker 2: this announcement when they named their policy in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: But have a look today again in the very friendly
Speaker 2: article that was there for anyone to see. It's modeling
Speaker 2: the impact of our policies done in twenty twenty for
Speaker 2: five years into the future. So this is interesting. They
Speaker 2: had the number and they were sitting on it since
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. They only announced it twenty twenty two, knowing
Speaker 2: that the time had already started to run out on it.
Speaker 2: There would be challenges as we've come to office, like
Speaker 2: the ongoing energy crisis around the world, like the impact
Speaker 2: of a war on Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Only problem is, as I've told you many.
Speaker 2: Times before, the announcement of the target and the over
Speaker 2: commitment when it came to renewables. It took place just
Speaker 2: before the election in twenty twenty two. But guess what,
Speaker 2: it also happened before Ukraine invaded Russia. Sorry, the other
Speaker 2: way around, I apologize. Russia invaded Ukraine. So the reality
Speaker 2: is that this doesn't even work. See, they told us
Speaker 2: two seventy five, they had known that the invasion was part.
Speaker 1: Of the picture.
Speaker 2: Yet of course they pay no attention whatsoever. Instead, of course,
Speaker 2: the Liberal Party quite correctly turns around and says that
Speaker 2: the CSIRO they told us it was a trillion dollars,
Speaker 2: then half a trillion dollars. Green groups have told us
Speaker 2: two trillion dollars. But the whole point is to go
Speaker 2: from the system that was our main electricity network to
Speaker 2: the one that they hope to be the electricity network
Speaker 2: into the future, so that we can cut forty three
Speaker 2: percent of one percent of global emissions, so they can
Speaker 2: bid for a UN Climate conference, so we can do
Speaker 2: our bit for climate change. It look cost well, at
Speaker 2: least are trillion dollars. This is in part what the
Speaker 2: liberal parties say about why your bills have gone through
Speaker 2: the roof because you see the very energy companies that
Speaker 2: have to spend all of that money, Well, they have
Speaker 2: to eventually charge somebody for it.
Speaker 1: I guess did they charge us?
Speaker 6: Anthony ALBERNIZI was telling them he was going to reduce
Speaker 6: power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars each year,
Speaker 6: and instead the power prices have gone up by one
Speaker 6: thousand dollars. And the renewables only approach of the government,
Speaker 6: it's just not working.
Speaker 2: And then this time last week and again look I
Speaker 2: get it, there's the big event, you know, the sporting carnival,
Speaker 2: athletics carnival happening right now in Paris, where majority of
Speaker 2: people are. But it is extraordinary how the people whose
Speaker 2: job it is to talk about politics never call out
Speaker 2: the context, the reality or the lie of this government.
Speaker 2: They also very selective in the types of polling that
Speaker 2: starts to echo around the universe. It means that the
Speaker 2: only time you're going to start to hear some of
Speaker 2: this stuff is if you watch programs like this, which
Speaker 2: is ironically why the very same people who don't do
Speaker 2: the job are the ones who would most like us
Speaker 2: to be pushed off the air.
Speaker 1: Jeez, No, connection whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Well, remember last week James Morrow wrote an excellent piece
Speaker 2: in the Daily Telegraph, in the Herald Sun and in
Speaker 2: the Courier Mail. According to the research which had been
Speaker 2: revealed by the polling firm Redbridge, fifty four percent of
Speaker 2: all voters agree with the statement that labours rush to
Speaker 2: increase the amount of wind and solar is driving bills
Speaker 2: and I quote through the roof. Fifty four percent of
Speaker 2: Australians agree with that sentiment, which means they agree with
Speaker 2: our argument, which means they are following the data. Yet
Speaker 2: of course no one anywhere in and around the press gallery.
Speaker 1: Could possibly double check to push forward, because of course.
Speaker 2: The narrative is that anyone other than those who believe
Speaker 2: we should have made the change yesterday is somehow anti
Speaker 2: climate change. No the cost of transition, let alone the
Speaker 2: change to the atmosphere, to the landscape, etc.
Speaker 1: Etc. Of many places in regional Australia's what's worth noting here.
Speaker 2: Again, back to that arguicle, though some fifty nine percent
Speaker 2: of people whose houses have less than one thousand dollars
Speaker 2: a week coming in, fifty nine percent agree with the
Speaker 2: sentiment that the bills are going through the roof because
Speaker 2: of their policies. But you know, nothing to see here.
Speaker 2: Apparently it's all just a lie. Now, I'm so tired
Speaker 2: of this. We see it everything from the American election,
Speaker 2: state politics, and our federal politics. Which is that when
Speaker 2: you saw what you saw between with your own eyes,
Speaker 2: you heard what you heard with your own ears, you.
Speaker 1: Have read and seen and lived the experience.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's all just a lie because apparently
Speaker 2: everything magically went down by what they promised, that they
Speaker 2: turned out had two fingers behind their back when they
Speaker 2: made the promise, or it's all completely papered over with
Speaker 2: a less than twelve month solution, which by the way,
Speaker 2: applies to the biggest mansion to the tiniest of houses,
Speaker 2: all the same three hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: Nothing to see.
Speaker 2: Now, Let's talk about Tony Burke, because there's a bit
Speaker 2: around him today. Tony Burke, of course, who is the
Speaker 2: Arts Minister who's in charge of the borders, because he's
Speaker 2: also the Home Affairs Minister, because of course they're the
Speaker 2: same job, aren't they. He just got the job last
Speaker 2: week and he's already starting to fiddle around on things
Speaker 2: on the edges, including an interesting move to give permanent,
Speaker 2: permanent visas to people who had come from Palestine in
Speaker 2: the past couple of months, since Israel's response to October seventh. Now,
Speaker 2: what I find interesting about this is for obvious reasons,
Speaker 2: they are saying the reason people can't go home is
Speaker 2: because there is no home to go to. I mean, anyone,
Speaker 2: regardless of your interpretation, your perspective, you would know that
Speaker 2: like building after building after building has to been completely
Speaker 2: pummeled in and around places like Gaza. Now, normally people
Speaker 2: would end up getting not permanent but temporary protection visas
Speaker 2: until the war ended. But no, funnily enough, Tony Burke
Speaker 2: has found a way to make the maybe into permanent.
Speaker 2: This is what he said today here on Schoing News.
Speaker 7: People arrived on visitor visas and the government was right
Speaker 7: to use that visa. It was the easiest visa to
Speaker 7: be able to deal within a situation of absolute immediate crisis.
Speaker 7: Where now in a situation where over time those visas
Speaker 7: are reaching their expiring date and there's a decision of
Speaker 7: government that hasn't been taken yet. So I don't have
Speaker 7: an announcement to be able to make, but a decision
Speaker 7: of government as to what the next step is for
Speaker 7: those individuals.
Speaker 2: But see what's particularly cute about this announcement. And look,
Speaker 2: obviously I want people to be safe. If they decide
Speaker 2: and would like to stay here longer than the conflicts
Speaker 2: taking place, good luck to them, right as long as
Speaker 2: they make all of the checks. I've got no problems
Speaker 2: with that. But what I find quite infuriating is the
Speaker 2: slipperiness of this blow. And he's going to be hailed
Speaker 2: a good performer. But you see, there used to be
Speaker 2: the temporary visa or visitors visa. There used to be,
Speaker 2: of course, the temporary protection visa, and then there was
Speaker 2: the full time visa. Well, this government of course got
Speaker 2: rid of the bit in the middle, taking out one
Speaker 2: of the three things holding up operation sovereign borders. So
Speaker 2: essentially the choices are the short term visa, which mostly
Speaker 2: tourists would use, or trump straight over to the full
Speaker 2: time Because many people came in on the visitors visa,
Speaker 2: they're starting to run out rather than just reissuing that visa,
Speaker 2: I don't know, We're just got to automatically move to
Speaker 2: the permit solution here.
Speaker 1: Again, this has nothing to do.
Speaker 2: With the cohort or the reason they are here, but
Speaker 2: about the rather not so subtle games being played by
Speaker 2: a bloke who will just play the same straight bat
Speaker 2: that again, we have seen how many times from how
Speaker 2: many politicians where now you just never meet your wrong,
Speaker 2: never meet your wrong, no matter what happens, never meet
Speaker 2: you're wrong.
Speaker 1: And then we wonder why.
Speaker 2: People get frustrated and they end up turning two different
Speaker 2: political options than the more traditional ones. There's putting your
Speaker 2: scene in all of this watch it now. Interestingly, though interestingly,
Speaker 2: Tony Burke was being discussed as a potential prime minister
Speaker 2: today in some of the press, and this of course
Speaker 2: will be news to some people like the Prime Minister. Now,
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister has every expectation that he win the
Speaker 2: next twenty eight elections and he'll live forever and everyone
Speaker 2: loves him, and therefore he will be the first person
Speaker 2: to leave after his fifteenth election and he won't suffer
Speaker 2: the same fate every other politician always ends up suffering,
Speaker 2: which is the ate their choice when they eventually end
Speaker 2: up going well, of course, the assumption would be that Grimjim,
Speaker 2: the Treasurer, who's done so much to solve cost of living,
Speaker 2: hasn't he Well, he's of course the bloke who well,
Speaker 2: he just would slide in straight in there in fifteen
Speaker 2: elections time. Now, of course, on there his own assumption.
Speaker 2: He's not a guy who can do things by harves.
Speaker 2: In fact, in a very friendly profile piece which was
Speaker 2: delivered again by the Channel nine newspapers, here was that
Speaker 2: he doesn't do anything in moderation.
Speaker 1: You see, this is why he got off the booze. Interestingly,
Speaker 1: just there was a couple of paragraphs there.
Speaker 2: I remarked that there was a bit of talk about
Speaker 2: cutting a bit loose socially my words around Parliament House
Speaker 2: because I was drinking too much.
Speaker 1: He answers bluntly, Was it another reason for you giving
Speaker 1: it up? Not really, I knew that if I wanted.
Speaker 2: To do a big, serious job, I couldn't keep drinking
Speaker 2: six or seven nights a week. Basically, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of weight in some of those words, in some of
Speaker 2: those sentences inside a couple of those paragraphs. What does
Speaker 2: cutting a bit loose socially mean? But of course it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. We don't follow that.
Speaker 1: There's nothing in the past, there's nothing in the future,
Speaker 1: there's nothing in the present.
Speaker 2: Everything's fine. We all just keep moving forward. So you
Speaker 2: would think it's Jim Chalmers, right, But no, no, apparently it's
Speaker 2: going to be Tony Burke, who is next in line
Speaker 2: to Elbow's throne again in fifteen elections time.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't dare want to suggest that this is a.
Speaker 2: Prime minister whose current approval rating is oh, that's right,
Speaker 2: lower than his approval rating is his disapproval? Oh sorry,
Speaker 2: so more people disapprove of our bow, more people.
Speaker 1: That's not true. Oh, it's true in the news poll,
Speaker 1: it's true in what all the other ones? That's not possible.
Speaker 2: Well, apparently Tony Burke, according to someone writing a thing
Speaker 2: in the fin Review today, has his eyes on a
Speaker 2: job that comes after Home Affairs now, of course, after
Speaker 2: he's been in the job for fifteen elections in a row.
Speaker 2: But Burke is sure to receive more of the sky
Speaker 2: after dark treatment by virtue of his portfolio and a
Speaker 2: possible future contender for labor leadership. You see, what a
Speaker 2: nice little way again for a sentence to do a
Speaker 2: lot of lifting here, to do a lot of the
Speaker 2: carrying of the point that's trying to be made here.
Speaker 2: Oh so subtly is that you see those of us
Speaker 2: in sky in his primetime. Who are the ones who
Speaker 2: point out things like the reason you've moved people to
Speaker 2: permanent status is because you knocked out the temporary status.
Speaker 2: I no, no, we're only doing that because apparently he's
Speaker 2: a potential labour PM. No, it's just because it's the truth.
Speaker 2: And I don't care what bs they want to serve
Speaker 2: everyone else or what other drip feed every other journalist
Speaker 2: is on. We will tell you the truth about what
Speaker 2: they are doing, which is why I always say.
Speaker 1: That they're going to win fifteen elections in a row
Speaker 1: rule forever. Right.
Speaker 2: But then Spira thought for old mate Chris Bowen. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's just he's doing the lord's work at the moment,
Speaker 2: isn't he saving Australia from forty three percent of one
Speaker 2: percent of global emissions? The one who just says that
Speaker 2: even if your power bill has been going.
Speaker 1: Up, No, no, that's just all a lie. They just
Speaker 1: make stuff up.
Speaker 2: Now, remember after the two and nineteen debacle where Chris
Speaker 2: Bowen successfully advised people that if they didn't like some
Speaker 2: of the tax policies of the Labor government, all supported
Speaker 2: by the way by Albert Burke and everyone else. But
Speaker 2: memory hole, none of this matters, None of this matters.
Speaker 2: He of course ran for the Labor leadership. Here he
Speaker 2: was out the front of his house, I think in
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, an old family house of course. Oh, because
Speaker 2: I'm one of you and you're one of me. Right Anyway,
Speaker 2: he withdrew from the race within twenty nine hours. So
Speaker 2: if we're talking about potential leadership people, we should probably
Speaker 2: pay attention to a poll that came out in Newspoll
Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago, which is who should
Speaker 2: leave the Labour Party. Less than a third of Australians
Speaker 2: believe that Anthony Abernezi should lead the Labor Party. Sure,
Speaker 2: sixty percent of labor people. But what forty percent of
Speaker 2: labor people don't think Albo should be the leader. Plubacepi
Speaker 2: is next to thirteen, shortened to ten, Charmers is at eight,
Speaker 2: Miles is at four, and Bowen is it two.
Speaker 1: Guess who's not at all on the list anywhere, Tony Burke. Oh,
Speaker 1: but that's just this going after die place.
Speaker 2: The politics of housing will in part determine what is
Speaker 2: going to happen at the upcoming federal election when it
Speaker 2: comes to things like renters. The Greens that's how they
Speaker 2: think they're going to be able to get the Labor Party.
Speaker 2: For people who believe that we should be cutting back
Speaker 2: on immigration and maybe even holding back on foreign buyers,
Speaker 2: well that's where the Liberal.
Speaker 1: Party is going to come and get them.
Speaker 2: But one thing that is absolutely creating quite the concern
Speaker 2: for the government is interest rates.
Speaker 1: Because interest rates, as you know, have gone up.
Speaker 2: Total of one times under the Liberal National Party and
Speaker 2: twelve times under the Labor Party.
Speaker 1: Nothing to see here right now. The good thing is
Speaker 1: because of.
Speaker 2: Some of the details in and around the more complicated
Speaker 2: parts of the inflation numbers that even though inflation went up,
Speaker 2: apparently it's a near certainty according to experts, that it
Speaker 2: won't be rising when they have a meeting this week. Now,
Speaker 2: that's good, but if anyone wants to turn around employees,
Speaker 2: if the media runs this garbage relief for homeowners because
Speaker 2: interest rates didn't go up, guess what they need a
Speaker 2: lot more than it not getting worse to be defined
Speaker 2: as relief, because people who are paying off a house
Speaker 2: right now, one that they may will have purchased at
Speaker 2: an auction or as sale no matter how you get
Speaker 2: to it, or the person who's trying to pay off
Speaker 2: the rental property or investment property that is currently being
Speaker 2: lets out to.
Speaker 1: People will guess what the increases.
Speaker 2: In the amount that they are paying in their mortgages
Speaker 2: is astronomical. In fact, Australia supersized mortgages climbed one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty four dollars a day, one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: four dollars that you did not need to find before
Speaker 2: this government came to power. That now today, tomorrow, yesterday,
Speaker 2: two days time, next, Tuesday, Thursday, week, every one of
Speaker 2: those days are extra hundred and fifty four dollars and
Speaker 2: the national average mortgage has reached a record. I have
Speaker 2: six hundred and thirty seven one thousand dollars that has
Speaker 2: gone up by one hundred and fifty four dollars a
Speaker 2: day in the past twelve months. Let's get into some
Speaker 2: more detail. Ahead of the Reserve Bank meeting, the figures
Speaker 2: from the Bureau Statistics which were released on Friday. She
Speaker 2: just what a surprise hid And on a Friday they
Speaker 2: showed that the average mortgage had increased by fifty six.
Speaker 1: Thousand dollars last financial year.
Speaker 2: So do the sums fifty two weeks a year it's
Speaker 2: more than a thousand bucks a week for the average
Speaker 2: mortgage in the country, let alone, once you start getting
Speaker 2: to the seven hundreds or the eight hundreds or god
Speaker 2: forbid a million or even higher. That Isawel's average mortgage
Speaker 2: is lifted by fifty five thousand dollars since June of
Speaker 2: last year to now seven hundred and eighty thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: So we're not even going the full two year number.
Speaker 1: This is the past twelve months.
Speaker 2: Under this mob twelve months it's gone by fifty five
Speaker 2: thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: In New South Wales.
Speaker 2: In Victoria it's risen by two point five percent to
Speaker 2: six hundred and four thousand dollars. Average mortgages are also
Speaker 2: at record highs in WA Queensland, South Australia. In fact,
Speaker 2: in WA, the average loan swed by one hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: and so on and so on. But for first home buyers,
Speaker 2: by the way, their mortgages have gone up thirty seven
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. So interest rates and the increasing of them
Speaker 2: is a direct link to millions of people feeling the
Speaker 2: financial squeeze. Yes, a third of people have already paid
Speaker 2: off the house. Good luck to you if that means
Speaker 2: that you're getting better out of term deposits, good luck.
Speaker 2: But again, two thirds of the country rent or paying
Speaker 2: off their own house, meaning somebody else is paying off
Speaker 2: the house that you are renting. Most likely mortgages have
Speaker 2: gone up by that amount in the time labor has
Speaker 2: been in power. And that's just for the past twelve months.
Speaker 2: Do'd you love how the media turn around and say that, oh,
Speaker 2: it's the next rate rise that's the problem. What about
Speaker 2: the last twelve You want to throw them all in
Speaker 2: the last thirteen. Oh but this issue so small and
Speaker 2: nobody cares about it because it's not as exciting as
Speaker 2: a reshuffle.
Speaker 1: Seriously, so when do things go down?
Speaker 2: According to the ABC, they rang around to a few
Speaker 2: people who are in private enterprise. Unlike them, they claim
Speaker 2: and z that they will be going down next year
Speaker 2: in February. The Commonald thanks say fingers crossed November, The
Speaker 2: National Australia Bank says June next year, and Westpac says
Speaker 2: December this year. So we've got August, we've got September,
Speaker 2: we've got October, we've got November.
Speaker 1: Then maybe maybe.
Speaker 2: If one of them is right. Otherwise we go in
Speaker 2: the next year and even deeper in the next year.
Speaker 2: Oh but it's not a political issue. And they knew
Speaker 2: you're critical of the government in Sky in his primetime
Speaker 2: because the political ambit. Come on, now, we know some
Speaker 2: people go, is this repet Yes, it's huge pressure. Oh
Speaker 2: but it's the it's not the last one that the
Speaker 2: government should be punished for. All the one, all the one,
Speaker 2: all the one, twelve of them. Oh no, it's the
Speaker 2: thirteenth that will break everyone's back. I'll give you the tip.
Speaker 2: Many a back is straining, if not broken already. They
Speaker 2: just can't admit it because of course it would make
Speaker 2: them look bad. But then again, the decision about whether
Speaker 2: rates go up or not as all linked to inflation,
Speaker 2: which is of course in many ways what people are
Speaker 2: purchasing at the supermarket, how expensive or otherwise things are
Speaker 2: at that supermarket. And a little example about one of
Speaker 2: those things that you know is just an ingredient that
Speaker 2: affects a lot of other things. But if you think
Speaker 2: about it on an industrial scale, for say a small
Speaker 2: cafe or restaurant, that's you what the cost is here
Speaker 2: olive oil. Now, according to this report, it's basically doubled
Speaker 2: the amount that is in olive oil right now. The
Speaker 2: price of olive oil of major supermarkets skyrocketed in the
Speaker 2: past months, spurred by the pral growing conditions in high demand.
Speaker 2: Reason and analysis from Compare the Market, you know, the
Speaker 2: little meerkat thing. The cost of a seven hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty mill bottle of a popular brand has gone from
Speaker 2: twelve to twenty four dollars. Now again, if you're a
Speaker 2: politician who got their third pay rise since the last election,
Speaker 2: none of this matters. If you're the Prime minister on
Speaker 2: six hundred grand, none of this matters. If you're the
Speaker 2: Governor General on seven hundred thousand dollars, none of this matters.
Speaker 2: If you're somebody who's a teal or a teal supporter,
Speaker 2: none of this matters. But everyone else, in those stinky
Speaker 2: suburbs that you just fly over on your way to
Speaker 2: go somewhere else, a four liter ten could set back
Speaker 2: people as much as sixty five dollars. This is on
Speaker 2: top of one hundred and fifty dollars a day that
Speaker 2: has been increasing on your mortgage.
Speaker 1: It just sends me crazy.
Speaker 2: But of course, if you ask great Jim Chums, future
Speaker 2: Prime Minister after the greatest Prime Minister wins his fifteen
Speaker 2: elections in a row and he wants to spend more
Speaker 2: time with his family.
Speaker 1: Everything's fine.
Speaker 4: Our policies on energy bill relief, on cheaper early childhood
Speaker 4: education and on reran assistance are actually putting downward pressure
Speaker 4: on prices in our economy.
Speaker 1: And that's not the opinion of the government.
Speaker 4: That's the facts are released today by the Australian Bureau
Speaker 4: of Stats.
Speaker 1: Yet inflation went up.
Speaker 2: And we've shown you lots of different things that are
Speaker 2: way above influence. Albert power bills is a lie. Costs
Speaker 2: going up is a lie. Now what a difference to
Speaker 2: our months makes. The Prime Minister was at the Gama
Speaker 2: Festival in the Northern Territory getting ready for going around
Speaker 2: and pulling the voice into place and everything's going to
Speaker 2: be roses. Well, of course, there was a little vote
Speaker 2: of the Australian people and what was sixty forty yes
Speaker 2: became sixty forty hell no. In fact, I think it
Speaker 2: was no in every state, wasn't it, Prime Minister? You
Speaker 2: said while I was in Queensland, South Australia, tas many
Speaker 2: of even or even Victoria.
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh that's right.
Speaker 2: The only place and the Northern Territory then any place
Speaker 2: that voted yes. What was it again, Oh, that's right,
Speaker 2: where the Prime Minister lives, where the abth types live
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 1: Australian Capital Territory.
Speaker 2: But part of all of this was, as you remember,
Speaker 2: was the Ularu statement, and the Uluru Statement demanded three things.
Speaker 2: It was voice, it was truth, it was treaty. Well,
Speaker 2: of course the voice part of this could have just
Speaker 2: been legislated by the Prime Minister, but no, he was
Speaker 2: going through history. He wanted to put it inside the constitution,
Speaker 2: so that went away. The Macarata Commission, which was the
Speaker 2: truth telling Commission, well that hasn't taken place right now,
Speaker 2: and apparently there's no plan for a federal treaty.
Speaker 1: That'll all be done.
Speaker 2: By state governments who are, among others like Victoria, don't
Speaker 2: want to rule anything out, including specific taxation for different
Speaker 2: types of Australians.
Speaker 1: You know, nothing to see here, right.
Speaker 2: Well, twelve months on things are a little different because
Speaker 2: he went too again the same event in the Northern Territory.
Speaker 2: He sat down with the same people on the same
Speaker 2: TV channel. But the truth telling part, the Macarata part
Speaker 2: of this is now not going to be happening, despite
Speaker 2: the fact that they actually had put in place millions
Speaker 2: of dollars in last year and this year's budget for
Speaker 2: it to be taking place. Here is what the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister says today.
Speaker 3: Well, that's not what we have proposed. What we're proposed
Speaker 3: is Makarada just being the idea of coming together.
Speaker 2: Really, so you put money into the federal budget this
Speaker 2: year and last year for people coming together. Now, I
Speaker 2: reckon we can find some tape from twelve months ago
Speaker 2: that isn't as vague as that about what your plan
Speaker 2: actually was.
Speaker 3: That's about establishing a structure which will happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve months ago it was a thing. Twelve months on,
Speaker 2: it's not a thing. Oh but of course if you
Speaker 2: point that out, you're just lying, just like the power
Speaker 2: price bit and the visa's bit. Right now, let's look
Speaker 2: at the latest polling when it comes to the American election. Yes,
Speaker 2: things are getting tighter. They are getting tighter by the day.
Speaker 2: I would suggest that well, certainly by this time next week,
Speaker 2: but most likely as soon as tomorrow, it'll be a
Speaker 2: scenario where Harris is in front in the national polling,
Speaker 2: in front when it comes to the betting and most
Speaker 2: likely there's a chance of her ending up in front
Speaker 2: in some of the swing states. Now, as I've told
Speaker 2: you a billion times before, all of it comes down
Speaker 2: to two states Nevada, where the Democrats never lose, but
Speaker 2: apparently they are losing right now and those numbers are
Speaker 2: staying pretty strong. Or Pennsylvania, where Trump one in sixteen,
Speaker 2: lost in twenty and was leading by a big margin
Speaker 2: into twenty four. Tomorrow, the expectation is that as soon
Speaker 2: as tomorrow we could find out that Jos Shapiro is
Speaker 2: the Democrat vice presidential candidate. He of course, is the
Speaker 2: governor of Pennsylvania, so things are very tight.
Speaker 1: This weekend we had debate about debates.
Speaker 2: Here's my suggestion to the Trump campaign, because I couldn't
Speaker 2: care less about what's happening with Kamal Arras. They've got
Speaker 2: plenty of other boosters that are around on the internet
Speaker 2: or in the media. The president should do, obviously, couple
Speaker 2: of rallies a day, multiple days in a row. The
Speaker 2: person who looks hungriest is the one who gets it.
Speaker 2: He should obviously do a whole collection of interviews with
Speaker 2: even unfriendly journalists.
Speaker 1: But most ordinately.
Speaker 2: He should do a town hall every week, not a
Speaker 2: debate with a media sit there and say, oh, mister president,
Speaker 2: here's the word.
Speaker 1: Why are you evil? Where are you terrible?
Speaker 2: Instead just getting a room and he can do it
Speaker 2: on any TV station that wants to host it. Get
Speaker 2: two hundred so called undersided voters. I say so called
Speaker 2: because it's self identifying with the Olympics. But you get
Speaker 2: this scenario where they ask a question, he answers it.
Speaker 2: If he has a dumb question dumb answered, then that
Speaker 2: will become the issue further around. But who needs the
Speaker 2: whole setup of basically Kamala Harris not being asked a
Speaker 2: tough question. And most importantly this week, this week, the
Speaker 2: Trump campaign needs to pull it back onto issues because
Speaker 2: by a twenty point margin, even in the polls where
Speaker 2: currently he might be losing the vote, he is winning
Speaker 2: on the issue of inflation, winning on the issue of immigration.
Speaker 1: If it all.
Speaker 2: Continues to be about the vibe with a candidate who
Speaker 2: is being wrapped in cotton wool, then bubble wrap and
Speaker 2: has the bumpers up when she goes ten pen bowling,
Speaker 2: she's not going to get exposed. But if eventually she
Speaker 2: has to say, so, what is your plan for inflation,
Speaker 2: What is your plan for immigration? Well, then the issue
Speaker 2: is going to start to move back towards Trump. There's
Speaker 2: also a great divide in reality between how this campaign
Speaker 2: is playing out on the internet versus the polite conversation
Speaker 2: you're allowed to have on television. Now, every and anyone
Speaker 2: has most likely been sent plenty of eclips in the
Speaker 2: past few days. If I put them on in here,
Speaker 2: there's a chance that I mightn't be here tomorrow night,
Speaker 2: but you've probably seen them, and that'd be exactly the
Speaker 2: same in America. The effect, I have no idea more
Speaker 2: in a secure on polmriray life. Thanks for watching wherever
Speaker 2: you happen back, thank you very much for watching. The
Speaker 2: wonderful Linda Scott is here. Of course she's part of
Speaker 2: the Sydney of City City of Sydney Council, but she
Speaker 2: is well pulling up stumps just a few weeks to
Speaker 2: go now, but still represents local government of National Cabinet
Speaker 2: and nonderan the wonderful James actually who wants to get
Speaker 2: into that Queensland Parliament via the seat of Keppel, of course,
Speaker 2: so one nation now vert early for him to get
Speaker 2: that spot. So let's talk about a couple of things,
Speaker 2: including a former Supreme Court judge has said that housing
Speaker 2: should be a human right in Australia. Now, James, there
Speaker 2: isn't a person when you see a collection of people
Speaker 2: that are sleeping rough that doesn't go, well, come on,
Speaker 2: surely we can do better where we're really rich. Why
Speaker 2: can't there be a night in hotel et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But obviously we also have the orthodoxy who believes that
Speaker 2: we should be having a million people joining us in
Speaker 2: this country every couple of years. So how would that
Speaker 2: work if it was to be considered a right when
Speaker 2: obviously we don't have the supply for the existing population,
Speaker 2: let alone future populations.
Speaker 8: Well, some of these judges are actually making people homeless,
Speaker 8: particularly in the family law courts. So I hope that
Speaker 8: he actually starts having a conversation with his colleagues at
Speaker 8: a higher level, because quite often it's the blogs that
Speaker 8: are left homeless when those family law matters reached the
Speaker 8: court and the bloke's turfed out and he's got nowhere
Speaker 8: to go. So it is somewhat right for people to
Speaker 8: have a house or more or less a roof over
Speaker 8: their heads. But you know we're talking about I read
Speaker 8: this article and I thought myself, you're talking about an
Speaker 8: era where you could build a house for fifty grand
Speaker 8: I know Mom and Dad built their place in the eighties.
Speaker 8: Land was fifteen thousand, the house was thirty five thousand,
Speaker 8: and that was a brick home back in Landsbro when
Speaker 8: we were kids. You can't do that today. And the
Speaker 8: average house I was only in the main street of
Speaker 8: Yupoon this weekend and just sort of scouting around at
Speaker 8: property prices and a new house and land package in
Speaker 8: a backblock here on the coast is going to set
Speaker 8: you back no less than seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 8: So it's all well and good, but look, if people
Speaker 8: want a house, if people want to roof over their heads,
Speaker 8: really you've got to start planning for this at a
Speaker 8: very young age.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: Forget these twenty thirty forty and fifty thousand dollars holidays
Speaker 8: overseas every year as a twenty year old. You've got
Speaker 8: to start knuckling down and put that money away for
Speaker 8: your future, because there's nothing worse than being an older
Speaker 8: thirties forties family with three kids in tow and having
Speaker 8: to move every six to twelve months because the rent
Speaker 8: went up and you've had to move somewhere else. If
Speaker 8: you want housing affordability, you've got to try and get
Speaker 8: into the market earlier, and that means been disciplined with
Speaker 8: your money. Don't just think that you can piss away
Speaker 8: your money at nightclubs and bars of a weekend and
Speaker 8: lattes every morning on the way to work. You've got
Speaker 8: to start saving and parents really need to get that
Speaker 8: through the kids' heads at this early age.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of fairness in what was
Speaker 2: just what James is saying Linda, obviously when it comes
Speaker 2: to the people that are sleeping rough right now, right
Speaker 2: literally in New South Wales, there is a little courtyard
Speaker 2: that's underneath the Premier's office and for as long as
Speaker 2: any of us have been talking about politics, sleeps rough
Speaker 2: underneath the Premier's office every night.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of issues from veterans all the rest
Speaker 2: of it. Right, Homeless services desperately need to be increased,
Speaker 2: so we all can understand what some of the solutions
Speaker 2: are there, But isn't also a fundamental issue for Australians
Speaker 2: right now is that.
Speaker 1: I think that this extends to.
Speaker 2: Education and certainly when it comes to home ownership, is
Speaker 2: that we're actually not willing.
Speaker 1: To move around like other parts of the world.
Speaker 2: You may be born in a certain city, but you
Speaker 2: go to university somewhere else, or you might get your
Speaker 2: first job somewhere. Australia seems has this very sort of
Speaker 2: clustered idea that if I'm born in Melbourne, I get
Speaker 2: to stay in Melbourne. It doesn't mean that you should
Speaker 2: want to stay in Melbourne, but if you can only
Speaker 2: afford to go to Wodonga, then go to Woodonga.
Speaker 9: Look. When I was first elected to the City of
Speaker 9: Sydney now twelve years ago, it was the case that
Speaker 9: many regional mayors said for them that people sleeping rough
Speaker 9: in their towns was just not an issue. It was
Speaker 9: really a Sydney problem. And you're right, Paul, it is
Speaker 9: the case that we've got so many people each night,
Speaker 9: tragically in the City of Sydney still sleeping rough. But
Speaker 9: over the last few years it is the case that
Speaker 9: regional mayors have started telling me that they have people
Speaker 9: sleeping in their towns rough for the first time in
Speaker 9: living memory.
Speaker 10: But here's what I.
Speaker 9: Won't cop I won't cop James Ashby, and I won't
Speaker 9: cop Peter Dutton and the Conservatives blaming individuals and particularly
Speaker 9: blaming young people for the fact that these are economic
Speaker 9: conditions that are driving the housing affordability crisis. That is
Speaker 9: just rubbish and we have to call that out. This
Speaker 9: is not lazy young people.
Speaker 8: That's labor's immigration policy, which is also driving up prices
Speaker 8: in houses. And Linda, you've got to make it.
Speaker 9: Dunrans and James want to get in the way of
Speaker 9: normal working people's wages growing and that's why young people
Speaker 9: find it hard to afford a home. So I will
Speaker 9: not cut from James.
Speaker 2: Minimum wage right increases which are going to be able
Speaker 2: to get your dollars for a deposit for bedroom unity
Speaker 2: or frevllent.
Speaker 1: That's just wrong.
Speaker 9: It's just wrong.
Speaker 10: Normally is.
Speaker 8: You're twisting it.
Speaker 1: But okay, but a very German labor they like to twist,
Speaker 1: they do.
Speaker 2: But but your to your point, James about again. Look,
Speaker 2: this is what about this issue, right Everyone interprets.
Speaker 1: Things to be very personal.
Speaker 2: Right now, Obviously there are going to be circumstances of
Speaker 2: the people that have been working their backside off that
Speaker 2: aren't earning enough money that are pulling their head in
Speaker 2: as tight as they possibly can, who aren't able to
Speaker 2: get anywhere near it right. However, there are other examples
Speaker 2: of people who may well haven't been pulling in their
Speaker 2: head in as tight as they possibly could, but they're
Speaker 2: still complaining. And there could be some other examples of
Speaker 2: people who may even have the cash but they don't
Speaker 2: have the houses. And I've got to say, James, it
Speaker 2: reminds me a little bit of the general sort of
Speaker 2: parenting or education debate. Because all of us have slept somewhere,
Speaker 2: or lived somewhere, or paid the rent somewhere.
Speaker 1: We all think we know how to solve this.
Speaker 8: Yep, the safety net is failing, Linda. It's your people
Speaker 8: within labor that just continue to allow. Well, if it's
Speaker 8: not seven hundred and fifty thousand people into the country
Speaker 8: and one year it's another five hundred thousand, and this
Speaker 8: is part of the problem. The safety net for the
Speaker 8: people who already here has disappeared. I spoke to a
Speaker 8: bloke who's living a rough out of a camper van
Speaker 8: of his. He's been on the streets, basically moved from
Speaker 8: shire to shire to shire, can't sleep anywhere safely around
Speaker 8: here in Livingstone. So he goes and finds some backblock
Speaker 8: area to sleep. And the problem is he's a bloke
Speaker 8: who's worked his entire life. He's fallen through the cracks,
Speaker 8: through hard times due to medical reasons, and now he's busted.
Speaker 1: Asked sitting in a.
Speaker 8: Bugged out little buddy camper van. He says it himself,
Speaker 8: and he can't do anything about it. No one within
Speaker 8: the government's prepared to help because they're too worried about
Speaker 8: the forty odd thousand refugees that have come in via
Speaker 8: aircraft under this Labor government federally that are getting looked
Speaker 8: at by your people over.
Speaker 9: This standing in the way of the Labour government's record
Speaker 9: investment in public ownent. We've got a prime Minister who
Speaker 9: grew who believe wants to fund it, and your party
Speaker 9: and the Conservatives stand in the way of it. In
Speaker 9: the Senate, we want to build more housing for people
Speaker 9: like this.
Speaker 1: Think you can build houses.
Speaker 8: The way lady describe it. Through this thing here, your
Speaker 8: plan has failed.
Speaker 1: All right. Let us talk about parliamentary salaries.
Speaker 2: I noticed interestingly today we know that the politicians have
Speaker 2: got plenty of paid rises.
Speaker 1: Well now there's one coming for the staffers of federal politicians.
Speaker 2: I noticed, James that you and the boss Pauline hansome
Speaker 2: out there saying, okay, enough enough explain to us. Maybe
Speaker 2: with that, I'm not asking you to tell me exactly
Speaker 2: to the dollar what you earn, but why why is
Speaker 2: about ten to eleven percent increase too much?
Speaker 8: Paul where some of the best paid people in this
Speaker 8: country as staff of political officers or government departments. And
Speaker 8: it goes without saying that an eleven point two percent
Speaker 8: increase over the next couple of years is just outrageous.
Speaker 8: We hear of other organizations minimum wage are completely different.
Speaker 8: They get a three point seventy five percent increase. Now
Speaker 8: that's fair enough, and a lot of people would say
Speaker 8: that is not enough. But then at the same time too,
Speaker 8: you know, if you go putting it up too far,
Speaker 8: businesses have to cope with it, but taxpayers, at the
Speaker 8: end of the day are on the hook for this
Speaker 8: eleven point two percent. Albanizy was winging that wages within
Speaker 8: the Parliament were too high that he couldn't afford to
Speaker 8: give cross benches extra staff, and here he is just
Speaker 8: going and giving an eleven point two percent increase, we
Speaker 8: get some of the best conditions. We get travel allowance,
Speaker 8: which is just outrageous. I try and do as little
Speaker 8: travel as I can today because at the end of
Speaker 8: the day, I don't want it put.
Speaker 1: Back on the taxpayer.
Speaker 8: But you know, this is a government just spend spends
Speaker 8: and buy more of those votes from the public service.
Speaker 2: Well, but also don't forget as well that this is
Speaker 2: all about making sure and we're not going to stand
Speaker 2: in the way of and all the rest of it,
Speaker 2: because of course they may go in the minority government
Speaker 2: most likely according to the numbers. Therefore, you want to have
Speaker 2: the negotiation with a cross bench. You don't want to
Speaker 2: make them annoyed about how much this stuff get paid
Speaker 2: or how many there are. So, Linda, things have got
Speaker 2: better for the Democrats since last we spoke with Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: now confirmed as their candidate. Literally that happened via a
Speaker 2: zoom chat earlier today. The numbers are starting to level
Speaker 2: up and even she's starting to go ahead of Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: The political pessimist in you think, oh, something's about to
Speaker 2: happen next week, or do you feel like well, once
Speaker 2: you get in front the nature of American politics exist
Speaker 2: that you're probably not going to come back. What's as
Speaker 2: somebody who wants a Harris victory, what are you feeling
Speaker 2: right now? As times are the best they've been for
Speaker 2: the Dems?
Speaker 9: Also, like, look, I do want to say that I
Speaker 9: am full of hope and I think that Kamala Harris
Speaker 9: is an incredible candidate. She will revitalize the Democratics camp
Speaker 9: of the Democrats campaign, and she will bring new people
Speaker 9: to the Democrats, which is what they need. But I
Speaker 9: still do think that this is Trump's election to lose. Right,
Speaker 9: He's been out the front for a long time. He's
Speaker 9: got this incredible kind of tech Bros. Group behind him
Speaker 9: that are just channeling him big money behind a small
Speaker 9: number of very wealthy people. That's very hard to overcome
Speaker 9: when you're a grassroots party like the Democrats.
Speaker 1: So it's going to be interesting. She's just happened to
Speaker 1: the president.
Speaker 9: On you five dollar donations from working people, billions from
Speaker 9: tech bros.
Speaker 1: Or Our plan is to have a Chad in Paris.
Speaker 1: We will do so in a moment. Sign your apt
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: We are planning to talk to Hannah Hollis next couple
Speaker 2: of minutes from Paris. If we can get the tim
Speaker 2: Cans to work in the meantime planning to talk about
Speaker 2: with Linda Scott and with James Ashby. Before we get
Speaker 2: to your bowl predictions for the week ahead, which remember
Speaker 2: locked into law, I want to ask you about Tony
Speaker 2: Book because there was some little profile piece in the
Speaker 2: fin Review suggesting, oh, his next job is going to
Speaker 2: be the prime ministership, and then we've had these other
Speaker 2: people suggesting, oh, you know, Charmer's the profile piece. Now
Speaker 2: I thought that albou was solid. I thought he was
Speaker 2: so locked in. So okay, you're going to win the
Speaker 2: next fifteen elections in a row. Why are we getting
Speaker 2: the jockey in now for a bloke who allegedly is
Speaker 2: a head in the polls despite the fact that his
Speaker 2: disapproval rating is higher than his approval rating.
Speaker 8: Well, it just goes to show that Labor Party are
Speaker 8: not united. If this is what's happening in the background,
Speaker 8: it's proof that there's internal blows happening there, and of
Speaker 8: course they must be very concerned that they're not a
Speaker 8: shoe in for a second term of parliament. Look, Burke's
Speaker 8: highly effective, you have to admit it. I don't like
Speaker 8: his politics but he's very good on the floor, good operator,
Speaker 8: and anyone has to be better than Giles. But let's
Speaker 8: not forget Burk's filed in this position before he's filed
Speaker 8: in every other ministerial position. He just spins it better
Speaker 8: and he's a better salesperson, particularly on the law of
Speaker 8: Parliament and especially in the media. So don't be surprised
Speaker 8: if he is jocking for that position. There's no certainly
Speaker 8: that Labor will get a second term. They might scrape
Speaker 8: in with a cross bench in the lower House and
Speaker 8: in the Senate, but there's no guarantees. So that is
Speaker 8: why there's unrest behind the scenes within Labor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Linda, do you get this sense of it or
Speaker 2: I mean it's just a little profile piece and who cares.
Speaker 9: Oh, James's right to acknowledge that Labor's government is full
Speaker 9: of talent, Like you've got three new people into the cabinet,
Speaker 9: Pat Conroy, Jenny McAllister Melandira McCarthy, absolutely incredible talent. Team
Speaker 9: Ayre's Patrick Gorman, Ged Carney, you know, given promotions extraordinary
Speaker 9: and then just even on the back bench, Jerome Laxle,
Speaker 9: Tracy Robins. I could go on like labor's the government's
Speaker 9: full of talent, incredible people.
Speaker 10: It's great to see.
Speaker 9: They're really really great government.
Speaker 1: All right, quick, let's.
Speaker 2: Get to Hannah. We've actually got it all connected now now, Hannah.
Speaker 2: The last two minutes, lots of other things going on.
Speaker 2: Time for me to shut up. It's been incredible to watch,
Speaker 2: and I've got to say I've loved Weirder sports like.
Speaker 1: And all the rest of it. So what's in front
Speaker 1: of us?
Speaker 11: Well, why wouldn't you love the BMX? Paul, great to
Speaker 11: chat to you this hour.
Speaker 10: My goodness. We're winning gold in that, as we are.
Speaker 11: Doing in the pool, and we're hoping that the gold
Speaker 11: rush continues tonight. In the women's fifty meter freestyle, Can
Speaker 11: McAvoy claimed the gold as the first Australian male to
Speaker 11: do it.
Speaker 10: Can the ladies back it up.
Speaker 11: We've got Shana Jack and Meg Harris chasing medals in that,
Speaker 11: and then our medley teams hit the pool as well.
Speaker 11: Now our women have qualified first, our men have qualified six.
Speaker 11: But when you're representing Australia, we know our characters and
Speaker 11: our athletes are capable of herculean efforts.
Speaker 10: The teams haven't been announced yet so the makeup.
Speaker 11: Of the four that are jumping in the pool for
Speaker 11: the men and the women is still TBC.
Speaker 10: What about what's.
Speaker 11: Happening on the track though, super excited for Tory Lewis.
Speaker 11: She ran a personal best time in the two hundred
Speaker 11: meters sprint twenty two to eighty nine pool, but she
Speaker 11: got pipped right on the line, so she didn't qualify automatically.
Speaker 10: What does that mean?
Speaker 11: Well, thank goodness we've got the rapper charge round because
Speaker 11: she will now run in that in order to secure
Speaker 11: a semi final spot.
Speaker 10: As she does so along with Mia Gross now going.
Speaker 2: To say, I also love the idea that we're a
Speaker 2: chance of becoming medalist.
Speaker 1: We as if we do it. But anyway at the
Speaker 1: high jump, which I think is awesome.
Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, so this is really exciting. We've got two
Speaker 11: contenders here. We've got Nicola Olislagers and Eleanor Patterson.
Speaker 10: These ladies are stars.
Speaker 11: They are both the silver and the bronze World Championship
Speaker 11: medalists from just last year, so they come into this
Speaker 11: Olympics with great form.
Speaker 10: Nikola is the silver medalist.
Speaker 11: From Tokyo, so she knows how to podium at an Olympics.
Speaker 11: The thing is we have a Ukrainian world record holder.
Speaker 11: She has set a world record of two meters ten
Speaker 11: so it's pretty hard for our girls to clear.
Speaker 10: But we'll see what they can do.
Speaker 2: And I promise the next time we talk, we're going
Speaker 2: to book you at like ten past in the show,
Speaker 2: so if there's any delays we can actually have longer
Speaker 2: than a thirty second conversation, it will happen this week.
Speaker 1: Thank you, mate, Love that, Thank you. See her on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports, Fox Sports News and.
Speaker 2: Here on Scotty the Wonderful Hannah Hollis. That's our show
Speaker 2: for tonight. We'll see you again tomorrow for more Paul
Speaker 2: Murray life