Speaker 1: This is the Maddie row Us Music Show on Nova. Stocker,
Speaker 1: welcome to the Nova Studios. Oh my god, thank you
Speaker 1: for having me release day to day.
Speaker 2: How do you feel scared? Wanted as usual?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, isn't that just like a
Speaker 1: regular feeling for you?
Speaker 2: Daunting.
Speaker 1: We constantly talk about the horrors of what goes on
Speaker 1: in our minds and.
Speaker 2: Our brains musicians.
Speaker 1: We are cursed, we always whatever.
Speaker 2: We can't be in a studio together.
Speaker 1: Because Stocker, you and I have worked on music together,
Speaker 1: and we have been in the actual recording studios together,
Speaker 1: and it is absolute chaos, and people tell us to
Speaker 1: stop stopping up, shut dead, please, shut dead, please.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked at how professional we are right now.
Speaker 1: Well, we're trying. I want to talk about your music.
Speaker 3: I'm locked in lips locked, lip lip lip locked, lip locking?
Speaker 1: Why not lips locked? So lip locked is the name
Speaker 1: of the new Stocker EP.
Speaker 3: It felt it felt right in like two cents because
Speaker 3: like I describe the EP like the songs, I whisper
Speaker 3: my secrets into my songs and so this EP is
Speaker 3: like me kissing and telling. So not only is it
Speaker 3: my lips are locked and now they're not. I'm also
Speaker 3: locking liplocking, like when you're.
Speaker 1: Like you're closing the lips. People on radio can't hear.
Speaker 3: Oh true, true, No I meant. I meant liplocking as
Speaker 3: in like kissing.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, scam. Yes, So this ep is you kissing
Speaker 1: and telling, kissing and telling. All right, drop the names?
Speaker 1: Who are they? Who are you kissing?
Speaker 2: M I plead the fir.
Speaker 3: I signed an nda I know me being like I'm
Speaker 3: spilling my secrets.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, no, do the people know? I
Speaker 1: say people, because like I'm assuming it's about all genders
Speaker 1: and genres people.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think Lost so Much is about an
Speaker 3: ex girlfriend and an ex boyfriend. Who the rest is?
Speaker 3: I was saying to someone this morning. I was saying,
Speaker 3: bisexual woman has to pass the Bechdel test and.
Speaker 2: I didn't do a very good job.
Speaker 1: Did she pass?
Speaker 2: No? I did not. But I I feel like this ep.
Speaker 3: Is summarizing like a point in time before I really
Speaker 3: embraced my sexuality. There's like a yearning for I think
Speaker 3: male validation. Like Julia Fox just came out as a lesbian.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow.
Speaker 3: And on that TikTok they're talking about the difference between
Speaker 3: how you attracted to man or is it just wanting
Speaker 3: male validation.
Speaker 1: You're on lesbian TikTok, yeah, getting fed all of those videos.
Speaker 1: I see it for you. So are you in questioning?
Speaker 1: You are really kissing and telling and telling telling me
Speaker 1: that you are not sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're never sure.
Speaker 1: Sexuality is always constantly changing. It is so fluid. I'm
Speaker 1: constantly reevaluating it. I'm like, why do I find that
Speaker 1: man attractive? That's strange for me. But I just like people,
Speaker 1: I think completely.
Speaker 3: I've had so many crises over the years, but this
Speaker 3: is just be like I think with everything, I'm just
Speaker 3: taking it as it comes. And right now I've been
Speaker 3: really transported back to summer twenty nineteen. I feel like
Speaker 3: that was the last time of like goodness but also
Speaker 3: like yearning freedom.
Speaker 2: I was young, I was dumb.
Speaker 1: And I was pre COVID too.
Speaker 3: Pre COVID you could just go out and be silly,
Speaker 3: you know. I recently graduated high school, so I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm oh, that ages me, doesn't Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, you are so young you were Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: born in the naughties.
Speaker 2: I was born in two thousand.
Speaker 1: Wow, that makes me feel so sick. I don't know, Disgusten, Disgussten,
Speaker 1: you're very mature for your age. I feel so many
Speaker 1: men have told me that it's what this EP is about.
Speaker 1: The EP is also about the horrors of being a girl.
Speaker 1: I can think of so many horrible things about being
Speaker 1: a girl, like driving. Don't make me drive?
Speaker 2: No, absolutely no, opening.
Speaker 1: I don't have the physical strength. What else do I
Speaker 1: don't like about being a woman? High heels? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of listing off stereotypical things about a woman.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think as a feminist we've gone at the moment,
Speaker 3: you know, we're hitting like third wave, fourth wave or
Speaker 3: whatever they're calling it, and I think we're going so left,
Speaker 3: we're going right. Some things are just a blue job.
Speaker 3: I don't want to have to work. I don't want
Speaker 3: to have to open my own jars. That's a blue job.
Speaker 3: And you don't have to be a man to do
Speaker 3: a blue job. But I don't want to do them.
Speaker 3: That's not for me. Does that make sense.
Speaker 1: If I have to mow a lawn you watch the feminism,
Speaker 1: except my entire body, like, that's a man's job.
Speaker 2: Literally, But tell me the garden. I'm there, tell me
Speaker 2: to plant.
Speaker 1: I don't have a green thumb. All of my plants
Speaker 1: that I have ever owned have died. They have simply
Speaker 1: passed away.
Speaker 3: No same, but like it's so fun for the week
Speaker 3: that they're there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So pretty, so deco.
Speaker 1: What kind of horrors of childhood? Hot, there's that, but
Speaker 1: also the horrors of girlhood that are you exploring in
Speaker 1: this ep Liplocked.
Speaker 3: I think I've said that Liplocked is kind of the
Speaker 3: prologue to my project as a whole. It's just the
Speaker 3: first introduction, but I'm really into like reading Margaret Atwood
Speaker 3: and the idea of the ever present watcher, an eternal surveillance.
Speaker 3: So you'll see a lot of like found footage, a
Speaker 3: lot of security cameras.
Speaker 1: Because I said so many things that I went completely
Speaker 1: over my head.
Speaker 2: Long story short.
Speaker 3: Have you ever when you're a teenager you're alone, right
Speaker 3: nobody is around you in your room, and you're like,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, I can't pick my nose right now
Speaker 3: because what if somebody saw me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Margaret Atwood talks about the idea of women for decades,
Speaker 3: even before the existence of like you know, surveillance, feeling
Speaker 3: as if they there was like a peeping tom or
Speaker 3: a camera watching them so that they can't do things
Speaker 3: that would be seen as unattractive or unfeminine. Even though
Speaker 3: you're in the safety of your own home. You're in privacy,
Speaker 3: but you're like, I need to look attractive always.
Speaker 1: Wow, And here I am with I just got my
Speaker 1: upper lip wax. I'm wearing no makeup.
Speaker 2: Was to get great. You look great for a no
Speaker 2: makeup moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but people are watching. We are literally
Speaker 1: in the Big Brother House. There are so many cameras
Speaker 1: two three, four, five, six cameras are.
Speaker 2: Going to go into a psychosis.
Speaker 3: I brought you a gift, by the way, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I found it in like I have like a basement.
Speaker 3: It's super creepy and I found it in there.
Speaker 1: You found this in your basement?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like moldy down there, and there was
Speaker 2: like a singular chair.
Speaker 1: It doesn't smell bad, it's not moldy.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I I like I saged it because I was like,
Speaker 3: this has cursed energy.
Speaker 2: There was like a doll.
Speaker 1: You've wrapped it so nicely too.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't wrap it. I found it like that.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, Maddie. I found this in the I thought
Speaker 1: you might know what to do with it.
Speaker 3: Stocker for as.
Speaker 1: I don't own one of these. A cassette, a Stocker cassette.
Speaker 2: No, I can't afford a cassette.
Speaker 1: And when you open the cassette there is a USB.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what is that EP?
Speaker 1: I would assume? And match sticks.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so creepy, so.
Speaker 1: I can light something on fire.
Speaker 2: The blair witch of it all?
Speaker 1: Oh, is this like a treasure map? The lyrics of
Speaker 1: lipped lock?
Speaker 2: That's a real treasure?
Speaker 1: Which is your favorite lyric of the EP?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: What's the one that really? Like? Sums up Stoker and
Speaker 1: the body of work.
Speaker 3: I think I came back like a zombie.
Speaker 2: You look like you saw a ghost.
Speaker 1: Who is that like talking about an X?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Of like I think or like that whole song, and
Speaker 3: I think the EP, the whole EP is that sort
Speaker 3: of like lamenting of woe is Me? I want to
Speaker 3: be in love? Why don't you want me? And then
Speaker 3: you get to haunting and I like to, I don't know,
Speaker 3: take listeners through a journey, And that journey was me
Speaker 3: getting older, my prefrontal cortex developing and realizing he didn't
Speaker 3: ghost you, babe, you were the problem. Like wow, and
Speaker 3: so yeah, hauntings about me thinking he was my ghost,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 2: Was actually the one haunting him all these years. Wow.
Speaker 1: Isn't that great that you can kind of like look
Speaker 1: back on situations with a more fully frontal cortex when
Speaker 1: you get older. And that's the beauty of getting older.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Chloe se Accelowe Chloe yesterday about
Speaker 1: how the older you get, the more maturity you have
Speaker 1: to kind of look at situations in the past and go, oh, actually,
Speaker 1: like I was kind of the shit person in that,
Speaker 1: and like I was kind of like not really mature
Speaker 1: enough to know that I was in the wrong. It's
Speaker 1: cool to, yeah, be at an age where you can
Speaker 1: go actually, like I've found.
Speaker 2: A solace man. Yeah. Not everything's black and white. Sometimes
Speaker 2: things are gray and dreary and red.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, I really just said something, Mike
Speaker 2: drop that put that in there.
Speaker 1: Before you get out of here. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: quickly say your show at Black Bear Lodge was really amazing.
Speaker 1: That was your first headline. Yoh. Any artist who has
Speaker 1: toured Brisbane has played at the Black Bear Lodge and
Speaker 1: they know how cursed those stairs at the back of
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and there's no green room. There's just a
Speaker 1: teeny tiny little storage it. There's a closet. You rushed
Speaker 1: off to the closet twice during your set to do
Speaker 1: costume changes. I have never seen an artist do that, stocker.
Speaker 1: It was so incredible. Molly from Gyro's stream and I
Speaker 1: was standing watching you so soccer and we were just like,
Speaker 1: I can I believe she's doing this. This is the
Speaker 1: wildest thing we have ever seen at Black Bear Lodge.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I pulled it off.
Speaker 3: I had my friend rush with me into the tiny
Speaker 3: little closet to get changed into the tightest like mini
Speaker 3: dress I've ever put on in my life. I was
Speaker 3: supposed to have like a belt on as well, but
Speaker 3: we didn't have enough time. And also I was cleaning
Speaker 3: myself off of because I threw all that confetti and
Speaker 3: I was cleaning myself off of confetti trying to quick changeover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were really doing the most though you had.
Speaker 1: You had us throwing confetti at you, you were getting
Speaker 1: down on the steps and you didn't even have a band.
Speaker 1: You were DJing your own set. You were doing your
Speaker 1: own costume changes. I mean, you're really You're one of
Speaker 1: those artists that are really doing it all, and I
Speaker 1: think that is what is going to set you apart
Speaker 1: from everybody, but also your your DIY as per the beautiful.
Speaker 2: I know I didn't do that. I found it in
Speaker 2: my No.
Speaker 1: I think you have a really bright future and you're
Speaker 1: making music that is really experimental and different, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I could go on and on, but I think you're very,
Speaker 1: very talented, and I'm really excited that you want to
Speaker 1: write on my music too, because I think you're a
Speaker 1: really great songwriter and the song was really hit so
Speaker 1: a little bo like this little present you've brought me.
Speaker 1: Stocker is one to watch and I think you are incredible.
Speaker 2: S You're welcome.
Speaker 1: Happy EP release day, Thank you, liplocked.
Speaker 2: Out now, Happy.
Speaker 1: Day am I read? No, not at all really wedding though.
Speaker 3: Crazy anyway, Okay, bye, love you bye.
Speaker 1: This is the Maddie row of Music Show on Nova