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Speaker 1: On sky leaves Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. Good evening and welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Riata Pattey Show. Coming up tonight, worrying data

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Speaker 2: showing more than three in four jobs created in Australia

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Speaker 2: last year were underwritten by taxpayers. Adam Crichton will be

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Speaker 2: here to discuss that and the day's top headlines. The

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Speaker 2: Green sees the balance of power in the WA Upper

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Speaker 2: House Professa Ian Plimer and what that will mean for

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Speaker 2: WA's resource sector. The Great Josh Hammer will have the

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Speaker 2: latest from the US, Europe and Syria where Islamus are

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Speaker 2: slaughtering religious minorities, including Christians, and later in the hour,

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Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield will tell us what famous celebrity has fled

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Speaker 2: Trump's America for New Zealand and we never ever forget

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Speaker 2: Left is losing it. Goodnight at first, The latest News

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Speaker 2: poll is out and the Coalition is failing to gain ground,

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Speaker 2: with fifty five percent of voters saying they don't believe

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Speaker 2: the Coalition is ready to govern and Opposition leader Bitter

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Speaker 2: Dutton's personal approval rating has dropped while the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: has increased his lead. He's gone from five points to

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Speaker 2: a nine point lead in just the past month, and

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Speaker 2: we can't look overlook Labor having its own issues. They

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Speaker 2: continue to trail the coalition fifty one to forty nine

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Speaker 2: percent two party preferred. Labour's primary vote is on thirty

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Speaker 2: two percent, trailing the coalition on thirty nine. Let's bring

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Speaker 2: in senior fellow and chief economist at the Institute of

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Speaker 2: Public Affairs, Adam Crichton. Adam, what do you make of

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Speaker 2: this starter? It's not particularly great news for either side,

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Speaker 2: but I think the Prime Minister will be happy at

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Speaker 2: has increased his lead over the opposition leader.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Look at six weeks or so that I've been back

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Speaker 1: in Australia, obviously I've been hobby watching politics. I have

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Speaker 1: noticed that over that six weeks I would say that

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Speaker 1: Dutton's chances have been marginally declining, and also in that

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Speaker 1: space he's been more and more like the Labor Party. So,

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Speaker 1: for instance, Labor proposed the eight and a half billion

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Speaker 1: dollars on Medicare and then straightaway Dutton backed it. So

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Speaker 1: all that good stuff, at least from my point of view,

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Speaker 1: from last year that we saw on the nuclear energy

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Speaker 1: and so forth. That's I think when the opposition leader

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Speaker 1: was doing much better, but now his chances of declining.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I do wonder about some of the advice

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Speaker 2: he's receiving. It took the Liberal Party ten months to

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Speaker 2: pose the voice, which they should have done in approximately

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Speaker 2: ten minutes because it was on the face of a

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Speaker 2: bad policy. Didn't need to see further detail. But when

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Speaker 2: he did oppose it, and he articulated that position so well,

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Speaker 2: so strongly, I think that really is what made him

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Speaker 2: seem like a future leader of the country, and he

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Speaker 2: stepped back from that a little bit. Yeah, certainly, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And then I think I saw last week Financial Review

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Speaker 1: that the tials of all people are proposing to index

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Speaker 1: the tax scales, like that is something the Liberal Party

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Speaker 1: should be proposing, you would think from first principles, right,

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Speaker 1: because the fact is at the moment they are not indexed,

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Speaker 1: and so it is an annual tax increase year after year.

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Speaker 1: So you know, well done teals for that, But that's

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Speaker 1: something that should be coming from the coalition.

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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely. And on a bunch of other issues where

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Speaker 2: I think they're on very solid ground, a lot of

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Speaker 2: these so called cultural issues. Again, there's a reluctance to

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Speaker 2: lean into those fights, despite the fact that you would

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Speaker 2: have the majority of labor voters with you, never mind

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Speaker 2: conservative voters. But let's look at data that is far

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Speaker 2: more disturbing than any news poll. The Australian Financial Review

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Speaker 2: reports more than three quarters of new jobs created in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four were in government funded industries, talking things

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Speaker 2: like education, health. Now, about one third of the four

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty seven thousand jobs created last year were

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Speaker 2: in the public sector, but more than three quarters of

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Speaker 2: all jobs were underwritten essentially by the government. Adam, that's

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Speaker 2: not great news, and not surprisingly, guess what productivity has

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Speaker 2: also pummitted?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly the productivity in these so called non market

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Speaker 1: sectors has historically and still is been very low. Basically,

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Speaker 1: you know, the fact that more than three quarters in

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Speaker 1: prospects because obviously all these workers are financed from tax revenue,

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Speaker 1: and of course tax revenue slows economic growth. It's actually

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Speaker 1: worth pointing out that on the IPA's own research, it's

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Speaker 1: actually worse than three quarters. It's more than eighty two

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Speaker 1: percent of jobs since August twenty twenty two have actually

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Speaker 1: have actually come from the public sector, so two.

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Speaker 2: And a half years, so not just the past year.

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Speaker 1: Was so the growth extraordinary because overall, if you look

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Speaker 1: think eighteen percent are in the non market sector, and

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Speaker 1: yet that relatively small, small sector has accounted for more

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Speaker 4: Very worrying.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what percentage the NDIS and all the related

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Speaker 2: industries are possible for, because that just seems to be, well,

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Speaker 1: We certainly saw Bill Shorton, I think he said that

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Speaker 1: five hundred thousand people were employed because of the NDOTS.

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Speaker 1: Now they are probably classified as private sector workers on

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Speaker 1: some measures, right, but of course in reality they are

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Speaker 1: really public sector workers, and they are a drain on

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Speaker 1: the productivity of the economy, it must be said.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And I think it's like immigration, where you

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Speaker 2: can bring in an influx of people and really gain

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Speaker 2: the data and make it look like you've had a

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Speaker 2: big growth in GDP and everything's going well, we're having

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Speaker 2: economic prosperity and growth, but when you look at the

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Speaker 2: per capita data, it doesn't look so flash And this

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Speaker 2: seems to be a little bit of that. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: job numbers look great, Unemployment is at a low level.

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Speaker 2: But if the taxpayer is underwriting all this, and.

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Speaker 1: Look they certainly are. I mean, you know, we've had

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Speaker 1: over the past three or four years the biggest increase

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Speaker 1: in income tax in real terms pretty much in thirty

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Speaker 1: or forty years in Australia. And yet, and yet both

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Speaker 1: sides of politics go on about so called tax cuts,

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Speaker 1: the Stage three tax cuts. Well, look, inflation was far worse,

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Speaker 1: and so because those brackets aren't index, people have actually

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Speaker 1: had a big increase in tax and all of that

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Speaker 1: extra money has been spent on these sorts of public

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Speaker 1: sector jobs. It's very worrying both sides are not really

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Speaker 1: putting forward good solutions for Australia's future.

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Speaker 2: Now, the WA election was over the week ken the

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Speaker 2: Liberals performed terribly. The government has been returned their Labor

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Speaker 2: government with a massive majority. I'll be talking to Professor

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Speaker 2: Implymer about that a little bit later. But is this

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Speaker 2: good news for Anthony Alberanezi or I've heard some political

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Speaker 2: experts say it's actually bad news because whatever grievances West

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Speaker 2: Australians have they'll take it out on him rather than

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Speaker 1: But it's hard to I mean, it's hard to know.

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Speaker 1: Western Australia is so far away. I'm not an ex

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Speaker 1: it's almost like a country to itself. But that said, look,

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Speaker 1: I think overall probably bad for the Coalition because they

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Speaker 1: were expected to pick up more than five or six

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Speaker 1: seats and I think that's all they're going to end

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Speaker 1: up with in the Parliament. Badly. They've got a kind

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Speaker 1: of reflex Victoria State Pole. Right, there was a big

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Speaker 1: swing away from Labor, but it didn't really go to

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Speaker 1: the Liberals very much, you know, it kind of went

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Speaker 1: to Teals. In fact, I think the Teals are going

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Speaker 1: to win a seat in the West Australian Parliament for

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Speaker 1: the first time aus a Teal type candidate. Look, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's great for the Coalition, but that said,

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Speaker 1: as you point out, I mean it can go the

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Speaker 1: other way too. You have to speak to some cychologists

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll find that in a month or two.

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Speaker 2: It's not too far away. Let's talk about something a

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Speaker 2: little bit different. Veteran comedian David Hughes he was forced

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Speaker 2: to remove a group of women from his show at

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Speaker 2: the Adelaide Fringe Festival because well, they kept chattering away.

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Speaker 2: They kept just disrupting the show, annoying people sitting around them.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a look at the footage and you can

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Speaker 2: see Hughesy gets pretty angry. He gives him a couple

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Speaker 2: of warnings and then he loses it. Adam house Since said,

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Speaker 2: I gave the group of women multiple chances that were

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Speaker 2: infuriating audience members near them and me and as they

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Speaker 2: annoying hughes And I would say there's nothing worse than

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Speaker 2: if you're watching a comedy show or any sort of

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Speaker 2: live performance and you've got people chattering away. It's a distraction.

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Speaker 2: It takes away from the experience and you might remember.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this made the news in Americay

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Speaker 2: But a comic Arch Barker last year bou to day

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Speaker 2: all sorts of noise. He got absolutely slammed for it.

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Speaker 2: But I've got to say I'm with the comics on

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Speaker 2: this one. That mum and baby went on the project

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Speaker 2: to you know, to protest what had happened, and even

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Speaker 2: for during a TV interview, the baby's making little noises.

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Speaker 2: As cute as it may be, it's actually very disruptive. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, certainly I'm with both of these comedians on this.

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Speaker 1: I think the bigger threat though, for comedians generally in

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Speaker 1: Australia was always impositions on free speech. These new laws

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Speaker 1: that are being passed by state parliaments, especially in Victoria

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Speaker 1: and New South Wales where it is now illegal I

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Speaker 1: understand to severely ridicule a group quote unquote severely ridicule.

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Speaker 1: So no, stand up's going to get very very hard.

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Speaker 1: So maybe these women did not find him very funny,

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Speaker 1: but even so they were being very rude and they

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Speaker 5: Us to live.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, if you're sitting in the second role, really

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Speaker 2: anywhere where there's people around you, you've just got to

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Speaker 2: shush it, unless there's audience participation called for Adam Krisch,

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Speaker 2: I thought we were going to fight about that one.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were going to take the lady's side,

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Speaker 2: But here we are. Sorry about the unity ticket behind Husy.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time to joining me. Now is a

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Speaker 2: esteem geologist and author, Professor Ian Plimer, and I wanted

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Speaker 2: to start by getting your thoughts on the WA election.

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Speaker 2: You know the state very well. They contribute greatly to Australia.

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Speaker 2: WA is a mining state, it's a resources stronghold. They

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Speaker 2: seem to be very much conservative in their values. We

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Speaker 2: certainly saw that with the race based Voice referendum last year.

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Speaker 2: Sixty three and a half percent voted no. But then

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Speaker 2: we have state labor winning election after election with massive landslides.

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Speaker 3: Why is that, Well, it is a resource state. They

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Speaker 3: use a huge amount of energy. Most of their energy

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Speaker 3: comes from gas, some comes from diesel gen sets that

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Speaker 3: remote minds and some are soul. West Australia would not

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Speaker 3: be as prosperous as they are without the royalties of

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Speaker 3: mining and the labor govern in Western Australia over the

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Speaker 3: last couple of terms has been fairly care about destroying

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Speaker 3: the mining industry with high royalties. Our Greens of course,

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Speaker 3: want to completely destroy the mining industry, the gas industry

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Speaker 3: and any other industry. I want people living in caves

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Speaker 3: and sniffing.

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Speaker 6: Plants to live.

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Speaker 3: So in Western Australia we have a very very different

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Speaker 6: In Eastern Australia.

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Speaker 3: Western Australia has little manufacturing, it has mining.

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Speaker 7: And the Liberals just didn't dent the electric The Liberals

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Speaker 7: should have fought much harder on matters of resources, matters

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Speaker 7: of aboriginal.

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Speaker 6: Matters, closing down minds. They didn't. And it's very little

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Speaker 3: Victoria has drove a pathetically weak biberal party, as does

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Speaker 9: That was it.

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Speaker 2: And what a reckless bit of stupidity from Premier Roger

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Speaker 3: Well, Premier Cook should be concerned about Western Australia and

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Speaker 3: that was an absolutely dopey comment to make in front

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of energy that's embedded in aluminium more

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Speaker 6: That they export to US.

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Speaker 3: They go away, And I think President Trump has many

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Speaker 2: I think the Well and Roger Cork's just give it

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Speaker 3: Well he has, and that joins Ambassador rud that joins

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Speaker 2: Well this is the problem. We need them more than

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think it's too difficult as

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Speaker 2: something that's stupid on camera. Goodness, mate, Professor I Plymer,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Still to come Lefties Losing It plus the Great Josh Hammer,

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Speaker 2: we'll have the latest from the US, Europe and Syria

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Speaker 2: where Islamists are slaughtering religious minorities, including Christians. You're watching

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Speaker 2: the Reader Panny Show, and it's time for lefties losing it.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with a reality show. It's called Love is Blind,

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Speaker 10: I've always wanted a partner to be on the scene wavelength,

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Speaker 10: and so today.

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Speaker 8: I can't.

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Speaker 2: Yep. The bride then explained why she dumped Ben.

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Speaker 11: He asked him about like Black Lives matter, and I'm

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Speaker 4: That affected me.

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Speaker 11: I watched a sermon online from about yeah, sexual identity,

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Speaker 2: The horror a church with traditional views on gender, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, men are men and women are women. Dude, Ben,

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Speaker 2: you dodged a bullet. Move on, count your lucky stars.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Europe where the topless feminists are back.

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Speaker 2: This time they are doing Nazi salutes and chanting about

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Speaker 2: like I said, tiresome. Then the ladies let off some

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Speaker 4: On a personal level, I've made sure that every single

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Speaker 4: have people's backs, and that's why I'm here to tell

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Speaker 2: Cool story, bro, you think we've forgotten about what you

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Speaker 2: against your insane lockdowns. Please, your tears aren't going to

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Speaker 2: save you, or your legacy is trash. Now let's go

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Speaker 2: to CNN, where the usual suspects are screeching crazy stuff

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Speaker 5: So scared, but we are in the middle of a

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Speaker 8: Were being honest.

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Speaker 12: There should be a breaking news banner on CNNA emmesody

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Speaker 8: We are in dictatorship.

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Speaker 2: Well, l now, when the Washington Post and New York

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Speaker 6: Oh not figures.

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Speaker 2: This is this is the part that I love.

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Speaker 6: That's why you're a mag.

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Speaker 5: Mag.

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Speaker 6: I'm happy.

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Speaker 8: You're mad.

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Speaker 2: You're mad, you're mad.

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Speaker 8: Don't touch me, Hey, don't touch me.

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Speaker 10: You touch me, you don't get away from me.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it always the way the bullies cry and pretend

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Speaker 2: They're the cry bullies. Now let's look at a real

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Speaker 6: Take that out now, really, re take that out?

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Speaker 2: Take this out? Now? Take that out. It's hot, it's

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Speaker 8: Like I'm looking her hair.

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Speaker 2: But apparently it's offensive now. Well, that young lady being

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Speaker 9: I'm allowed to wear breads. So yesterday, when I was

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Speaker 2: I can't just rip my breads out.

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Speaker 9: She then follows me all the way to my car,

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Speaker 9: If she can wear a wig, I can wear breaths.

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Speaker 2: Funny, how no one ever accuses Beyonce of cultural appropriation

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Speaker 2: Remember the border crisis, the illegal immigration crisis that Joe

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Speaker 13: Can you fact check that for us, because we here

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Speaker 8: Republicans have been saying largely wrongly.

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Speaker 1: There's only so much President Biden can do with executive action,

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Speaker 11: The president hands are tied.

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Speaker 12: They need Congress to act to fix the broken immigration system.

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Speaker 8: This cannot happen without Congress resourcing this.

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Speaker 2: There's only so much a president can do with his

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Speaker 2: pen and his phone. But surprise, surprise, the media was

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Speaker 2: wrong yet again, and this was something President Trump was

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Speaker 2: happy to point out during his address to Congress.

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Speaker 1: The media and our friends in the Democrat Party kept

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Speaker 1: saying we needed new legislation.

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Speaker 6: We must have.

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Speaker 11: Legislation to secure the border.

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Speaker 3: But it turned out that all we really needed was

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Speaker 3: a new president.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was a bit of a mic drop moment,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it. Yes, it turns out the president didn't need

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Speaker 2: Congress didn't need new legislation because in under a month,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has managed to secure the border with illegal

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Speaker 2: crossings at a twenty five year low. Must have hurt

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Speaker 2: CBS to report the undeniable facts.

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Speaker 5: Illegal border crossings have sung to the lowest level in

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Speaker 5: at least twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: We know what's behind the strap and border cross Look.

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Speaker 10: I think we have to first emphasize how stunning and

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Speaker 10: remarkable this trop is. Fewer than nine thousand migrants were

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Speaker 10: processed at the US Mexico border after crossing into the

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Speaker 10: country illegally in February. That is compared to Sundays during

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Speaker 10: the Biden administration, when border patrol recorded more than that

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Speaker 10: on twenty four hour time spans, including up to ten

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Speaker 10: thousand people in a single day.

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Speaker 2: So we've gone from having up to ten thousand people

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Speaker 2: cross illegally in a day to less than that over

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Speaker 2: an entire month. Elections have consequences, folks. Let's bring in

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Speaker 2: Newsweek's senior editor at Large and Article three Projects Senior

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Speaker 2: Council Josh Hammer. Josh, this is a stunning achievement. There's

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Speaker 2: now other way to put it. Stunning turnaround in a month.

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Speaker 14: You know, Rida, there was a lot of misinformation in

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Speaker 14: that montage that were just on there. I saw Jonah

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Speaker 14: Goldberg a bunch of others saying that the president does

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Speaker 14: actually not have the authority to largely shut down the border,

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Speaker 14: well as the kings may be. I mean not to brag,

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Speaker 14: but I actually am a lawyer here I clerked on

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Speaker 14: a federal appeals cord. The president actually does have sweeping authority.

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Speaker 14: It's actually codified at eight US Code, Section eleven eighty two,

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Speaker 14: sub section F. It goes back all the way to

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Speaker 14: the Immigration National the Act of the nineteen fifties a

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Speaker 14: foundational immigration statue there, and that basically says that the

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Speaker 14: president has, at his own discretion, the ability to shut

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Speaker 14: down the border to all admission of any classes or

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Speaker 14: groups of migrants that he wants to. It is a

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Speaker 14: sweeping delegation of immigration forcement authority from the Congress to

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Speaker 14: the president. That was actually the very statutory sub section

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Speaker 14: that was litigated as part of the so called travel

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Speaker 14: band case the first time during the first tru administration.

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Speaker 14: Now with the Trump versus Hawaii case there where the

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Speaker 14: court actually ruled five to four that yes, the statute

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Speaker 14: means what it says, the president has sweeping authority there.

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Speaker 14: So the court has said this there the commentators surprise, surprise,

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Speaker 14: or dead wrong on the actual law there. Donald Trump

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Speaker 14: is taking advantage what the law actually says, as was

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Speaker 14: litigated during his first administration there and the results, as

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Speaker 14: you said, speak for themselves. America has a secure southern border. Again,

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Speaker 14: the people voted for it, and God willing, yes, they

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Speaker 14: have it. And I think that the cartels are going

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Speaker 14: to learn a very hard wasn't here to the end

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Speaker 14: that they have not learned that a read because America's

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Speaker 14: southern border.

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Speaker 8: Right now, Rita is not open for business.

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Speaker 2: Now let's move on, Josh, to the Democrats claiming to

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Speaker 2: be the party for women, for women's rights. But let's

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Speaker 2: see how they voted when it came time to protect

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Speaker 2: girls and women's sports from male athletes identifying as women.

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Speaker 2: Every single Democrat voted against the rights of women here,

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Speaker 2: and not only I would a hugger. Is this position

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Speaker 2: morally putred? It's also a fringe position. It's an extreme

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Speaker 2: position because around four and five Americans are clear on

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Speaker 2: this issue. As even CNN reported.

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Speaker 12: Transgender female athletes and women's sports, only eighteen percent of

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Speaker 12: the country says that they should be in fact allowed

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Speaker 12: to participate in women's sports. Compare this to the opposition.

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Speaker 12: I mean, my goodness, gracious, seventy nine percent. You rarely

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Speaker 12: get set nine percent of the country to agree on anything,

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Speaker 12: but they do in fact agree on the idea of

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Speaker 12: opposing transgender female athletes in women's sports. But it's not

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Speaker 12: just the hero and now, lord, it's not just the

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Speaker 12: hero and now. What we're actually seeing is a trend

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Speaker 12: on this particular issue, and it's going in the direction

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Speaker 12: of opposition.

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Speaker 2: Josh that trend is interesting. In twenty twenty one, we

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Speaker 2: had sixty two percent who were opposed. Now the figure

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Speaker 2: is seventy nine, and I suspect it's even more than

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Speaker 2: that because this is one of the issues where people

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Speaker 2: have been shamed for holding a very much a common

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Speaker 2: sense mainstream view. Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Look, it's an eighty twenty issue, as you said there.

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Speaker 14: I mean, it's fascinating here in the States, realy, because

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Speaker 14: you see even very left wing politicians like Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 14: of California, who had this winding Watch interview with Charlie

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Speaker 14: Kirk on Gavin Newsom's own new podcast this week, and

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Speaker 14: even Gavin Newsom who literally became the first politician in

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Speaker 14: California history to issue same sex marriage licenses, you know,

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Speaker 14: back in the day whenever that was.

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Speaker 8: I mean, even this guy who was ahead of the

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Speaker 8: curve on that issue.

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Speaker 14: There, he's saying that it's now deeply unfair when it

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Speaker 14: comes to biological males competing against females in women's athletic condition. Now,

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Speaker 14: to be clear, no one should believe Gavin Newsom for

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Speaker 14: a second. The guy's a snake. He's a total liar there.

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Speaker 14: He's trying to gear up for a twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 14: presidential run. I wish him nothing but the worst there,

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Speaker 14: but this is yet another losing issue for the Democratic

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Speaker 14: Party there and Rita.

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Speaker 8: This continues to be the structural issue for the Democrats.

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Speaker 14: I actually I wrote about this in my most recent column,

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Speaker 14: which is that you have this chasm between the Democratic

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Speaker 14: elites which are in total lunacy la la land when

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Speaker 14: it comes to the open borders issue, when it comes

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Speaker 14: to the transgender issue there, when it comes to any

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Speaker 14: of these other issues, the Green New Deal, environmental regulation,

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Speaker 14: let's not frack, let's not drill for natural gas, they're

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Speaker 14: in total la la lands. I mean even the Median Democrat,

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Speaker 14: as we just saw on that CNN graphic there, does

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Speaker 14: not agree with their own parties elites. So unless until

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Speaker 14: they can find some way to repudiate their own parties elites,

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Speaker 14: the ladies of the view the Barack Obama winging the

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Speaker 14: party there, unless how they can do that, they're just

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Speaker 14: going to continue to flounder in irrelevance. But again, as

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Speaker 14: someone who wishes have nothing but the worst, I'd say,

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Speaker 14: go on, and I.

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Speaker 2: Think you're one hundred percent right about Gavin News them.

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Speaker 2: I think he's just reading the room. He's seeing how

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Speaker 2: fringe and unpopular these positions are, and he's just trying

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Speaker 2: to position himself as some sort of centrist when you

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Speaker 2: only have to look at California to see that's not

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Speaker 2: the case. Now, let's talk about this curious story about

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Speaker 2: what really happened during the Biden presidency and who was

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Speaker 2: pulling the strings it was really in charge because it

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Speaker 2: was clear it wasn't Joe Biden for much of the time.

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Speaker 2: It's been alleged that the majority of official documents signed

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Speaker 2: by President Joe Biden used the same outopen signature. This

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Speaker 2: is a report by the Heritage Foundation. It states we

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Speaker 2: gathered every document we could find with Biden's signature over

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Speaker 2: the course of his presidency, all news the same autopen signature,

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Speaker 2: except for the announcement that the former president was dropping

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Speaker 2: out of the race last year. Josh, what do you

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Speaker 2: make of this report?

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Speaker 14: Well, it's funny because the last line there is when

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Speaker 14: I first saw this is where my mind immediately went. Actually,

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Speaker 14: I saw a lot of people on Twitter ex whatever,

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Speaker 14: calling of these days who when Joe Biden, in theory,

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Speaker 14: had that I'm dropping beyond the race announcement. You actually

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Speaker 14: look at the signature, it looks a lot like a holograph.

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Speaker 14: I mean, that's not typically where my mind goes there.

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Speaker 14: But you know, read in recent years when it comes

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Speaker 14: to the Hunter Biden laptop, when it comes to COVID nineteen,

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Speaker 14: when it comes to the fact that, yeah, we all

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Speaker 14: knew that Joe Biden was running the country in geriatric

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Speaker 14: senile fashion, or a lot of these so called conspiracy

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Speaker 14: theories really are kind of coming true in real time there.

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Speaker 14: I guess the question for me is that as we

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Speaker 14: as we continue to learn more and more about just

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Speaker 14: the exact state of Joe Biden's physical and above all

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Speaker 14: mental health over the course of his horrific and historically

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Speaker 14: all time atrocious president, as we continue to learn more

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Speaker 14: and more, and God will in Congress will do more investigations. Frankly,

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Speaker 14: I think we barely scratched the surface of this world

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Speaker 14: historical scandal. But as we learn more and more of

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Speaker 14: the question to me is going to be actually this

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Speaker 14: question of who really was pulling the strings. I will

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Speaker 14: tell you my own personal take on this rita. It's

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Speaker 14: not a novel take there. It's probably a common opinion

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Speaker 14: there I have long been on the opinion that it

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Speaker 14: actually is Barack Obama who was not necessarily running the

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Speaker 14: world per se.

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Speaker 8: But I think that Barack Obama was.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, probably more than any other figure, calling a lot

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Speaker 14: of the shots. There was this one very bizarre image

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Speaker 14: of him going to ten Downing Streets in London trying

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Speaker 14: to meet with the Prime Minister there.

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Speaker 8: I mean, why would a former president do that.

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Speaker 14: He was also the first president in over one hundred

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Speaker 14: years to not physically vacate Washington, d C. He's stayed

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Speaker 14: in Kalorama, a very tony, upscale part of Washington see there.

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Speaker 14: I continue to think that Rita that Barack Obama actually

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Speaker 14: largely was governing in this Biden administration, which makes sense

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Speaker 14: because then he was the leading campaign trail surrogate for

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Speaker 14: Kamala Harris herself. There we all saw how that played

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Speaker 14: out by.

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Speaker 2: The way Joshua spoken previously about Donald Trump's strategy with

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Speaker 2: the Ukraine Russia War and the goal of having Europe

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Speaker 2: contribute in a much more meaningful way to their own defense,

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Speaker 2: and it looks like Trump has again managed to get

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Speaker 2: the outcome he wanted despite all the hysteria, all the

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Speaker 2: doomsday commentary we've had from politicians and commentators, including I've

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Speaker 2: got to say, disappointingly some conservative commentators who should know better.

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Speaker 2: Stop getting hysterical about the retric Look at the bigger picture,

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Speaker 2: look at the strategy, look at the outcomes. Let's see

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Speaker 2: now from the head of the European Commission, Ursula Vonda Lyon.

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Speaker 13: Europe is ready to assume its responsibilities rearm Europe could

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Speaker 13: mobilize close to eight hundred billion euros of defense expenditures

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Speaker 13: for a safe and resilient Europe.

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Speaker 2: Josh, did the president get his way again? He's been

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Speaker 2: wanting this, and really it should have been in place

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Speaker 2: all along. Europe shouldn't be depending on America to defend

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Speaker 2: it from Russia or any other aggressive force.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, strikes me as another huge diplomatic, geopolitical, foreign affairs

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Speaker 14: victory for the presidents. You know, this very much builds RITA,

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Speaker 14: by the way, on what he accomplished the first time around.

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Speaker 14: So the first time around, you know, Donald Trump also

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Speaker 14: ruffled a lot of feathers when it comes to NATO.

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Speaker 14: People tend to forget this, but he basically came in

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Speaker 14: there and he said in a series of speeches and pronouncements.

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Speaker 14: You know, you guys are not pulling your weight there.

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Speaker 14: You know the NATO treaty obligates. He just spends at

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Speaker 14: least two percent, ideally five percent of your gross domestic

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Speaker 14: product on defense spending, on military spending. There, And if

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Speaker 14: you look back over his first term from twenty seventeen

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Speaker 14: to twenty twenty one, the total number of European countries

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Speaker 14: that actually met that bare minimum two percent thresholds roughly doubled.

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Speaker 14: It was an astronomical increase there. So he's done this

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Speaker 14: before and he's doing it yet again there. But look,

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Speaker 14: Donald Trump is a national okay, he believes in strong sovereign,

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Speaker 14: independent nation states.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 14: What that means is that the United States is going

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Speaker 14: to best partner with Europe when Europe can actually take

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Speaker 14: care of itself, when Europe and actually take care of

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Speaker 14: its own backyard. This notion that the US European Alliance

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Speaker 14: thrives when Europe is basically a glorified satropy, when they're

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Speaker 14: basically a province of the global American Empire. There, that's

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Speaker 14: not a recipe for long term United States European stability. Frankly,

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Speaker 14: it's not a recipe for long term stability when it

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Speaker 14: comes to United States and any other country around the

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Speaker 14: world that we've been allied with in the past. There

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Speaker 14: So this is the Donald Trump foreign policy doctrine. It

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Speaker 14: works like a charm frankly the first time around, and

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Speaker 14: it's off to a heck of the start this time

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Speaker 14: around as well. I frankly think Rita is only going

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Speaker 14: to get better from here, if I had to guess.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we've seen NATO be strengthened. We've seen the European

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Speaker 2: nations that have basically have done very little finally start

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Speaker 2: contributing to their own defense. And yet we've got the

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Speaker 2: hysterics acting like this is the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: Democracy itself is under threat. Now, before you go, Josh,

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Speaker 2: this is one of the most disturbing developments, but sadly,

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Speaker 2: entirely predictable. We are seeing some horrific footage out of

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Speaker 2: Syria religious minorities, including Christians being tortured, being slaughtered, men, women, children,

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Speaker 2: and this horror was, as I said, sadly predictable. Tulsa

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Speaker 2: Gabbard was amongst those who warned us about what would occur,

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Speaker 2: but there were people celebrating what happened in Syria, thinking

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Speaker 2: this was going to be the dawn of some new

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Speaker 2: age of democracy and human rights when we've got Islamists

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Speaker 2: in charge them. When Islamists are in charge, minorities are slaughtered.

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Speaker 14: So this goes back at least as far as the

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Speaker 14: Arab Spring, which started back in twenty ten twenty eleven

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Speaker 14: round there in Tunisia and really all throughout the hour world.

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Speaker 14: There you had this massive conflation which with many people

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Speaker 14: on the neoliberal left and the neo conservative faux right,

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Speaker 14: you have this massive conflation between democracy and Islamism where

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Speaker 14: you saw kind of this democratic uprising or this populist uprising,

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Speaker 14: where this populous uprising was being done in the name

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Speaker 14: of what in the name of Shria supremacy of Islamism,

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Speaker 14: a radical fundamentalist Islam there, and you know that's basically

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Speaker 14: what happens here in Syria. I mean Bashar al Assad,

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Speaker 14: let's not mince words. I mean an absolute monster. I

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Speaker 14: mean a death toll of hundreds and hundred thousands, arguably

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Speaker 14: over a million, an absolutely horrific person there, a total

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Speaker 14: pawn of the evil Iranian regime there in the world

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Speaker 14: is better off that he's not in power, but we

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Speaker 14: should not be pretending like the current guy in Charles

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Speaker 14: al Jalani, who was a perpateetic jihadist over his entire

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Speaker 14: career there. Former al Qaeda there, these are bad, bad,

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Speaker 14: bad people there, and frankly, at this point they're basically

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Speaker 14: just an extension of recip type Ertawan and the increasingly

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Speaker 14: radical regime in Ankara Turkey there. So the Middle East

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Speaker 14: is totally in flux. But this is obviously, on a

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Speaker 14: pure humanitarian level, an absolutely har riffic situation there.

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Speaker 8: Reader. One thing I will add briefly is that it

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Speaker 8: is your.

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Speaker 14: Right now is extending his reach into Southwestern series trying

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Speaker 14: to protect the Druze minority that is there in that

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Speaker 14: particular part of the country. There, maybe there'll be some

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Speaker 14: sort of some sort of momentum for kind of an

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Speaker 14: autonomous Dru's many nations here or something that would that

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Speaker 14: would be a fantastic development. Frankly, it's something that the

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Speaker 14: United States I think actually would do very well to

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Speaker 14: get behind. But at a bare minimum, let's not treat

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Speaker 14: these absolute gie hottest thugs and Damascus like there are

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Speaker 14: anything other than the thugs that they are.

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Speaker 2: And I think you're one hundred percent right there, that

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Speaker 2: there would be support in America for some sort of

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Speaker 2: intervention to try to protect those religious minorities. I think

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Speaker 2: that is the sort of military action that Americans, maybe

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Speaker 2: not an enormous majority, but I think many Americans would

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Speaker 2: be comfortable with. Josh Hammah, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: your time tonight.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: Riata.

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Speaker 2: Still to come. The famous celebrity who has fled Trump's

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Speaker 2: America for New Zealand, kinsisco Field has the details. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Joining me now is celebrity and role commentator kinseisco Field.

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Speaker 2: Kinsey Love is Blind star Sarah Carlton has been condemned

742
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Speaker 2: after she dumbed her partner Ben Mazenger at the Altar

743
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Speaker 2: during the season eight finale because of his views on

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Speaker 2: BLM and his church's views on gender. I played a

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Speaker 2: clip of this earlier in the program. Tell me what

746
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Speaker 2: the reaction has been. I reckon this girl is going

747
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Speaker 2: to be offered a spot on The View or some

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Speaker 2: CNN correspondence gig. I don't know. I think this is

749
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Speaker 2: actually going to launch her.

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Speaker 11: Career, do you, Because from what I've seen is the

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Speaker 11: backlash is primarily negative and there is a lot of

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Speaker 11: sympathy for I mean, he could be the next Bachelor

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Speaker 11: as far as I you know, as I can tell,

754
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Speaker 11: because I'm seeing magawomen throwing themselves at him because they

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Speaker 11: really feel like they really feel like this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 11: If she was trying to go viral, I think she

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Speaker 11: went viral for all the wrong reasons because I've seen

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Speaker 11: a lot of ridicule. But as a nurse, is she

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Speaker 11: going to treat you differently if you've not been vaccinated?

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Speaker 11: Is she going to treat you differently if she knows

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Speaker 11: who you voted for? It makes you really uncomfortable to

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Speaker 11: know that this is her thought process.

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Speaker 2: Because at the old time, they told each other they

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Speaker 2: they loved each other, and you thought, okay, well they're

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Speaker 2: going to get married. Not that I watched this program,

766
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Speaker 2: but I had to watch this segment for today's show.

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Speaker 2: And the only thing I would say against him is

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Speaker 2: that he had to wait for her to dump him

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Speaker 2: because there were red flags all over the place and

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Speaker 2: the fact that he didn't see them. He wanted to

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Speaker 2: get married then and there. I don't know if that

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Speaker 2: counts in his faber And now I agree with you,

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Speaker 2: of course, it's been a lot of mockery for this girl.

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Speaker 2: But as we know, there's a lot of mockery for

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Speaker 2: the panelists on the View and pretty much the entire

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Speaker 2: MSNBCCNN lineup, but that doesn't stop them getting those roles.

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Speaker 2: So I still reckon she might have a bit of

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Speaker 2: a career in the media, have a short lived. There's

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Speaker 2: all sorts of scuttle buckkinse at the moment about the Obamas,

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Speaker 2: whether they're getting a divorce, and it's back in the

781
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Speaker 2: headlines again.

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Speaker 11: Why is that, Well, because we're seeing Barack a solo

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Speaker 11: for at least the third time in recent months. According

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Speaker 11: to TMZ, he was spotted at a Thai restaurant over

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Speaker 11: here in Sherman Oaks with both of his daughters, but

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Speaker 11: with alt Michelle. Last week, he was prominently seated at

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Speaker 11: this La Clippers game alongside the owner and his wife,

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Speaker 11: but without you know, Michelle. And that's the latest in

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Speaker 11: several solo events that he's attended between Jimmy Cordor's funeral

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Speaker 11: and then President Trump's inarguration in January. I thought it

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Speaker 11: was interesting because Megan Kelly is referring to this as

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Speaker 11: a soft launch divorce, so I guess the countdown is

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Speaker 11: on halft launch divorce.

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Speaker 2: Oh that will be the next scene. Now you'll be

795
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Speaker 2: trialing the divorce before you make it official.

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Speaker 8: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Well, the Jimmy Carter funeral was the one that I

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Speaker 2: think got people really talking because there were these rumors.

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Speaker 2: But then the fact that she wasn't by his side

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Speaker 2: for that the inauguration, you can say, well, you know,

801
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Speaker 2: she had a fundamental problem with the elected president. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is unusual to have the multiple events where they're

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Speaker 2: not together because they have been pretty much throughout their

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Speaker 2: entire marriage, side by side, just about every event that

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Speaker 2: can attend together. Now, Carnie West, has it been catfish?

806
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Speaker 2: What's happened here? He has apparently been scam by someone

807
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Speaker 2: impersonating Joe Rogan. West posted various screenshots of text conversations

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Speaker 2: with who he thought was Joe Rogan arranging a podcast

809
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Speaker 2: appearance with him, but Joe Rogan swiftly replied on x saying, Hey, Kanye,

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Speaker 2: I don't know who you're talking to, but that's not me.

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Speaker 2: He can see. How can this happen? I mean we're

812
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Speaker 2: talking about big Star. Yes, surely someone's looking into his

813
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Speaker 2: communications before he makes commitments to appear on podcasts.

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Speaker 11: I mean I think if it was anybody but Kanye,

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Speaker 11: I would say yes. But Kanye is kind of a

816
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Speaker 11: loose cannon and doing his own thing right now, I

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Speaker 11: will say I would not be surprised if it actually

818
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Speaker 11: comes to fruition now, because Rogan recently said that Kanye

819
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Speaker 11: was musically genius. He was talking to Antonio Brown on

820
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Speaker 11: his podcast last week. He said that Kanye was musically genius,

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Speaker 11: but he wishes he wouldn't sell T shirts with twastikas

822
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Speaker 11: on them, and he did say that he felt like

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Speaker 11: Kanye was messing with us. So perhaps he would invite

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Speaker 11: Kanye on to have that debate with him and say,

825
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Speaker 11: do you really feel this way? Are you really trying

826
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Speaker 11: to sell this lifestyle or is this some big marketing

827
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Speaker 11: ploy now.

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Speaker 2: Blake Lively was ambushed by a Justin Baldoni supporter outside

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Speaker 2: the Paramount Theater in Los Angeles where her new film

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Speaker 2: Another Simple Favor was having his opening night at the

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Speaker 2: annual south By Southwest Film Festival. Can say, there seems

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Speaker 2: to be no end to this saga. At some point

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Speaker 2: people are going to move on, but it appears we're not

834
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Speaker 2: they yet.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I'm interested in your take on this

836
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Speaker 11: because TV personality and entrepreneur Bethany Frankel recently came out

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Speaker 11: today and said she felt like we were bullying Blake

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Speaker 11: Lively and Megan Markle, that we were crossing the line

839
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Speaker 11: a little bit, you know, showing up and protesting her movie.

840
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Speaker 11: And I don't. I think we're trying to hold people accountable.

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Speaker 11: That our WEAPONI seeing some really sensitive and culturally culturally

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Speaker 11: relevant topics, whether it be racism or me too. I

843
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Speaker 11: just think it's people trying to hold others accountable.

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Speaker 8: I don't see this as bullying.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

846
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Speaker 2: I think Bethany is just trying to get a headline.

847
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Speaker 2: There's almost absurd thing I've heard. I mean, you'd be

848
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Speaker 2: talking about hugely powerful, influential people who have behaved appallingly.

849
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Speaker 2: And in the case of Megan Markel, she hasn't just

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Speaker 2: played the victim. She has thrown mud at her husband's families.

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Speaker 2: She has suggested they are racist and that scuttle. But

852
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Speaker 2: those ugly rumors were circulating, making headlines around the world

853
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Speaker 2: as the queen was ill. It was her final months,

854
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Speaker 2: and to be dealing with this because of their just

855
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Speaker 2: attention seeking was absolutely disgusting. So yeah, I have very

856
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Speaker 2: little sympathy, And let's just have a look at the

857
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Speaker 2: reason why there's any criticism coming their way is because

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Speaker 2: they are putting out these projects. There's self delighted projects.

859
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Speaker 2: In the case of Megan Markele the most absurd reality

860
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Speaker 2: show perhaps ever recorded. It makes Keeping Up with the

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Speaker 2: Kardashian seem like some sort of noble projects. So you

862
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Speaker 2: know what, if they stopped doing stupid stuff, would stop

863
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Speaker 2: talking about it, That's all I could say. Just finally,

864
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Speaker 2: Kinsey director James Cameron has fled America. He does not

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Speaker 2: want to be part of Donald Trump's presidency in any

866
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Speaker 2: shape or form, and is soon going to be a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand citizen. Has there been any backlash to this

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Speaker 2: or is this generally supported? Yeah?

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Speaker 11: I mean I feel like everybody's like, bye, I have

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Speaker 11: The last thing I watched of his was Titanic. He

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Speaker 11: says that we are going historically in a different direction,

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Speaker 11: and I'd say, you know, historically men were not supposed

873
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Speaker 11: to be in women's bathrooms. Teenage girls didn't have to

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Speaker 11: share locker rooms with biological men. In the form of

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Speaker 11: Hunter Baden's laptop. You know, like there's a million things

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Speaker 11: that happened under the Biden administration that I felt like

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Speaker 11: straight away from the Constitution, James.

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Speaker 2: Cameron, and that's all the time we have. I'll see

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Speaker 2: you tomorrow night at eleven. Don't go anywhere. Newsnight is

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Speaker 2: up next