WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 7 July 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.160 From the Sky News Center. 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.240 This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.280 Hello, good evening, Welcome to the program. James Morrow here 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.840 filling in for the grant Man himself, Paul Murray tonight 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:17.079 and every night for the next two weeks. And don't worry, 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.479 We're still gonna have all the same all killer, no 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.080 filler program, all the all star panels, tons of sleepy 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.240 Joe and of course plenty of fun along the way. Now, 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.680 before we get to all the wackiness overseas with the 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.280 UK election with Joe Biden and the big question will 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.240 he or won't he drop out of the race, there's 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.080 a lot of nonsense going on right here at home 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:47.760 we need to tackle. Exhibit A Green's Senator Marine Feruki. 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.960 Oh yeah, Now, the Green senator who migrated from Pakistan 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:58.280 to Australia presumably because there was something about this place 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.120 that she found more attractive than the place she left, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:07.160 was on Insiders this morning. Now, I presume that, like me, 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.679 you missed it, because well Outsiders is yours and mine 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:16.200 unmissible Sunday morning appointment. But I caught up with what 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:19.679 went on and I just had to share this with you. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.160 Fruki said. A bunch of things that were, shall we say, controversial, 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.800 so it's not hard, so it's hard not to know 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.480 where to begin. Among other things, she said this about 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:36.240 the so called peaceful protest a Parliament House last week 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:40.280 where pro Palestinian activists who want nothing more than a 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.319 ceasefire that will give a wind to Hamas scaled the 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.880 roof and displayed, among other things, a red triangle, a 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:53.480 symbol witch in peaceful Gaza Hamas worlds means target. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.680 We have a right to protest in this country. We 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.280 have a right to peacefully protest in this. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.440 Country to security bridge at Parliament House here, a senator, 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.080 is that something you want to encourage. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:10.920 We're not encouraging any protests that are, you know, violent, 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:13.040 And I think it was a bit rich of the 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.200 Prime Minister to say that kind of unfurling a banner 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.880 from the top of the Parliament House was somehow not 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.200 a peaceful protest. Well, this was a peaceful It. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.560 Is a breach of security though it forces the building 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.639 to be shut down the Australian Parliament. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.200 Sure, I understand that, but let's also put this into perspective. 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.440 People are really angry. 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.960 Hi, Yes, let's put it into perspective and speaking of Hammas, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.760 she had this to say about the terror. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.880 Group Tamas needs to be dismantled. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.160 We listen to the situation with Hamas is that it 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.440 has nothing. I can't keep repeating it again and again. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.760 It has nothing to do with Palestinian statehood and Palestinian self. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:03:00.680 The question was we have that the Palestineans need to 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.680 decide where they want to go with their own region, 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.040 not intervention from Western countries. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.239 That seemed like a pretty easy question for me. A 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:14.840 lay up there, dispandle humas, sure, why not? But instead 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.640 we now have a big issue here because you know, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:23.240 everyone has the right to self determination. Sure, but if 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.959 a people determine that they want to be run by 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:31.240 a violent terror group that attacks its neighbors and in fact, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:35.120 in their own charter, wants to genocide them off the 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:40.720 face of the earth, I think we have an issue. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:45.840 And then Senator Ferruki said this in relation to the 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:50.200 whole issue of Senator Fatnaba Pema, who left Labor this 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:55.040 past week over the ALP and they're still maintaining a 0:03:55.240 --> 0:04:02.560 sentilla of support for Israel. Well, she turned the issue around. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.800 You were talking about this earlier on social cohesion and 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.760 how you know. I find that also, you know, kind 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:15.080 of very weird that here we have two major parties 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.839 who right at this time are dog whistling on migrants 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:25.360 and on international students, which is really harming and hurting 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:29.520 the community. Stand there and say, oh, we need social cohesion. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:35.800 Social cohesion. Did you get that? This is the new 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.920 catchphrase these days, isn't it? Social cohesion? Which is a 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.600 fancy and nice way of saying, Hey, we've gone so 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:48.960 far down this experiment with virtually unlimited migration and the 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:53.840 marvels of multiculturalism. Don't you feel enriched that it's all 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.880 we can do to keep ourselves from killing one another? 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:02.479 All right, I exaggerate, but not by much. And I 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.279 tell you what it is is a bit rich for 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:10.000 people to talk about social cohesion, you know, hey, we're 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:14.279 all in this together, and then essentially say that what 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.600 fought him a payment and others, including a new group 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:22.599 calling itself Muslim Vote, is doing, is helping the cause. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:28.440 It's not, because what we are talking about is something 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.520 that I thought Australia left behind a long time ago, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:38.080 sectarian religious based politics, and in its modern incantation, the 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:43.960 injection of political Islam into the body politic. Now, before 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.599 I go any further, I want to be really clear 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.840 here before anybody grabs this and cuts it up out 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:55.280 of context. This is not about people practicing Islam. If 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.320 you're an Australian and a practicing Muslim, good for you, 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:03.640 Masha lah I say. Everyone here is absolutely free to 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:07.640 practice their faith or no faith at all, as they 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.600 seek to understand themselves, the world they're placed in it, 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:17.680 and what may be beyond. That's the beauty of this joint. Now, 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.919 what I'm talking about here is a specific sort of 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:26.239 political Islam that is not about social cohesion, but about 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:30.480 dividing the nation. You're either Muslim or non Muslim, and 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.640 if you are a Muslim, you have a specific set 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:38.360 of interests issues that you vote on based on your 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:43.640 faith and as well your loyalty to the global Islamic 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:49.479 community also known as the Umah. In other words, your 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:55.400 primary identity, your primary political compass, is your faith and 0:06:55.440 --> 0:07:00.000 you vote accordingly. Now, I'll be real frank with you. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.160 If you look at the history of the last fifty 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:08.080 or sixty years, political Islam of any stripe has pretty 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:13.040 much always been a force for division and even eventually 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:18.720 totalitarianism at the most extreme, the results can be catastrophic. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.840 The Iranian Revolution saw a secular dictatorship where at least 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:28.880 people had basic freedoms exchanged for a mad molocracy that 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.960 has since nineteen seventy nine exported terror around the globe, 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:37.080 including to Israel on October seventh, and kept its people 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:41.560 under the thumb of the religious police. The Iranians are Shiites, 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.920 but for decades, rival Sundi states like Saudi Arabia two 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.240 spent their vast oil wealth exporting their own brand of 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.880 political Islam across the Muslim world, from Morocco to Indonesia 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:59.240 and wherever it took hold trouble followed. The Taliban, al Qaeda, 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.320 and the Bali bombers, all one way or another were 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:07.440 tied to this type of political Islam. Now, these are 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.120 extreme examples, and I am not lumping Feruki in payment 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:15.320 in with these people, but they should be looked at 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:20.080 as a warning. Certainly, the UK, where independent Muslim candidates 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.880 have won seats in last week's general election, shows where 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:30.720 immigration without integration leads sectarian parties hold electorates defined by 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:35.960 a faith, and it is very strange, very weird. I 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:41.079 have to say, to see people on the green left 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:45.760 end of the political spectrum, which, when Christianity comes near politics, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:50.240 loses their ever loving mind. Well again, it's funny to 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.079 see them cheering on the potential rise of a political 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:59.520 movement that, let's just say, will not reciprocate the noble 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:05.360 sentiment it's expressed by groups such as Queers for Palestine. Now. 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.160 The only thing that explains that, I think is that 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.400 the green left end of politics is so addicted to 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:17.120 hashtag welcome stuff, so addicted to anything that it sees 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:22.119 as subverting what they would call the dominant Anglo Australian 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:27.120 paradigm that they don't see their own interests or at 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.680 stake here. And I want you to forgive me here 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.480 because I want to give Albo Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:39.480 the last word on this topic. Because credit where credit 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.000 is due. He said this two days ago. 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:47.400 I don't think and don't want Australia to go down 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:52.600 the road of faith based political parties because what that 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.880 will do is undermine social cohesion and it sends to 0:09:55.960 --> 0:10:00.720 me as well beyond obvious, that is not in the 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:06.600 interests of smaller minority groups to isolate themselves, which is 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:13.120 what a faith based party system would do. I know 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.880 as well that many people who are refugees in Australia 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:23.280 have fled theocricies, have fled regimes that have been based 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.880 upon so called religion. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.640 Well, I got to say, Well, said Prime Minister, but 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:35.800 I'd add this, if you want the Australian project to succeed, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.880 which even which if we disagree with how we get there, 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.920 and I think we all do want to succeed, then 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:46.880 Prime Minister, stop talking down the country. This goes for 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:51.719 all of labor and putting us through ridiculous, divisive exercises 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:56.839 like the Voice. Otherwise, migrants who come from other places 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:02.120 with other traditions and beliefs, sometimes antithetical to our own 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:06.400 won't see any reason to make the shift and go 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.720 all in on being Australian, not if the Left keeps 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:17.320 telling them what an awful, bigoted, stolen, racist place this is. Now, 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.160 let's get into all of this with James Ashby, chief 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.640 of staff from One Nation and candidate in the upcoming 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:27.240 Queensland election, and Chris Picksweety from the pr Council. Welcome 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.120 to you both, Thank you so much for joining me tonight. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.880 Now let's get into the payment side of this issue. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.040 Bill Shorten had a big whack at the breakaway Senator 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.520 with my sky and who's calling Andrew Clenel this morning? 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:40.000 Have a listen. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.599 I know that for me and most of my colleagues, 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.360 we understand we're elected under the Labor flag as charming 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.960 and as charismatic as individual candidates. People vote for parties 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.040 quite often, and if I decided I'd leave the Labor Party, 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:59.760 which I never will, I would resign my seat because 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.880 I got there under Labor votes, not under Bill charm. 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.520 You wouldn't underestimate Bill charm. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:10.040 But and Bridge McKenzie says this issue is one of 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:11.440 Labor's own making. 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.840 We don't want to see sectarianism take over Australian politics 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.840 at all, but this problem is an issue of the 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:25.719 Prime Minister's own making, his weakness when anti Semitic behavior 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.960 has been evidenced at the Opera house, on suburban streets, 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:34.120 a university campus, and most embarrassingly, at Parliament House itself 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:34.800 last week. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.320 Christy, I want to start with you here on this. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.040 Find him my payment guard. I think something like sixteen 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.360 hundred below the line votes for herself she's there because 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.520 of Labor and only because of Labor, should she resign? 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:48.400 The Senate. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:54.079 Look very interesting with everybody looking into her quota. Of course, 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:58.280 that third spot on the Labor Senate ticket in Western 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:03.200 Australia was achieved for the first time because Labor did 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:08.480 extremely well in the House of Representatives in Western Australia. 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.600 And for those that don't know, the higher your voters 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.959 in the House of Representatives and the more the more 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.400 seats your party wins in the House, the higher the 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.360 quota in the Senate is and the more people you 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.839 get elected down your Senate tickets, so little lesson that's 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.839 how that works. She did get more personal votes and 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:33.720 a sitting Labor Senator, Glenn Sterl though, so everybody looking 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.920 into her quota has brought to light that she actually 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.320 did get more votes than him. But he is not 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.200 running off to launch his own political party. Speak to 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:47.439 preference whisperers whose job it is to get people re 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:53.120 elected on minute quotas by playing the preference system, and 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:58.480 he's certainly not entertaining any other party approaches apart from 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.439 the Labor Party. This is an issue of Labour's own making. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:08.480 They have tried not to address the deep divisions within 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:12.880 the left dominated faction, the Prime Minister's faction of the 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:16.720 Labor Party. We know that the pro Palestinian movement is 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.480 very very strong in the left faction of Labor, the 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:24.160 Prime Minister having been a sympathizer to that point of 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.800 view as well in the past, but they haven't wanted 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:31.280 to address it and it has come to the fore 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.360 in the most disastrous way for the Labor Party as 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.560 they have tried to keep the focus on their one 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.560 July measures cost of living and energy. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.280 Really yeah, and now James Ashby, I want to go 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.760 to you on this too, because this changes the complexion 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.560 of the Senate and we saw some very fine words 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.320 with the Prime Minister a moment ago about you know, 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:59.280 not having breakaway sectarian parties. But this creates a huge 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.800 headache for Labor now in terms of getting their legislation 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.080 through and just to continue on that, you know, what 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.120 do you reckon are the chances of more of these 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:14.000 independent sectarian seats coming up against Labor. I guess the 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:18.120 same way that the Teals took seats off the Liberals 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.200 in the Lower House at the last election. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.200 Well, it's very interesting because Labour now needs three cross 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.400 bench members as well as the Greens to get any 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:32.840 legislation through between now and the end of what could 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.680 effectively be the end of this parliament. Before the end 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.920 of the year as well, it's difficult. And if the 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.920 Prime Minister, keeping in mind that if he does get 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:46.520 another term in government following the next federal election, relies 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.600 again on the cross bench, it's going to be very difficult. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:53.840 Because Fatima Payment has another four years to go still 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.800 on her term. There are questions around the validity of 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:03.520 her citizenship and whether she would actually for foul of 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.440 Section forty four, which we know a number of Labor 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.760 senators and other MPs have fallen foul in the past, 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:15.400 so did we with Malcolm Roberts. But what's really interesting 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:20.080 is this case involving Fatima Payment has never ever been 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:24.360 tested in the High Court. Now there is somewhat of 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.160 a get out of jail card here for those people 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.520 who come from countries that may have dictatorships that just 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:35.400 will not allow people to relinquish their citizenship. We saw 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.280 samdowski Ai go through this when he was a senator. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.120 It was never tested though, and I think there is 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.480 a cause here for the Senate to have a serious conversation. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.520 If Fatima of Payment wanted to, she could refer herself 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:53.840 to the High Court. All it is is going into 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.280 the Senate when we return after the winter break and 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:00.240 making that application through the Senate. So very interesting. There's 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.160 a lot of play here, and I think though that 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.520 Labor is going to struggle for the rest of this 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.280 term because of the fact now they need not just 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.280 the Greens but also three cross bench members in the 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.120 Senate to get that legislation through. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.600 Yeah, Christy, what did you make of the way that 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.800 suddenly all of this Section forty four issues suddenly just 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.280 conveniently cropped up just now. I mean, surely Labor would 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.400 have had some idea that this could have potentially been 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.720 an issue. We said, oh look, look, look, it's certainly 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:31.680 on the front page. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.960 Well, the Labor Party has been at pains this week, 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:40.880 individual members and the senior leadership to say that they 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.800 have reached out and they've supported Senator payment. But at 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.400 the same time we're seeing the curious case of these 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:54.560 stories coming to light. So obviously the Labor machine is 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.119 briefing out against Senator payment, and they're briefing out as 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.760 well with the Prime Minister trying to rewrite his narrative 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:06.560 around when he made the decision to exile her from 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:10.040 the Labor Party. She's saying it hadn't been planned for 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.640 a long time. He's saying it has been. So there's 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.679 certainly background briefing against the one that has crossed the 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:24.480 picket line, so to speak. Labor takes collectivism and solidarity 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:29.719 very very very seriously. I don't think anyone's crossed the 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:35.000 floor for an incredibly long time. This collectivism is the 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.040 foundation of the Labor Party. The Labor rules were set 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:42.680 up in the early eighteen nineties, I believe, and when 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.720 you run for election as a candidate for the Labor Party, 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:50.359 you sign a pledge to abide by the Labor rules 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.159 and to abide by that solidarity. And there are people 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.119 sitting in that party room and had to vote for 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.440 things that they didn't want to. And this is why 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.719 we're seeing Section forty four and a number of our 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.080 stories coming out against one of their own. 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.160 And I mean we saw that, you know, Petty Wong 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.520 invoked that she said that she, you know, stood up 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.560 for the alp position on gay marriage despite being an 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.439 openly gay woman when they were against it. But James Ashby, 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.800 I mean, this is this strikes me as such a 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.920 bit of hypocrisy here because if this was going on 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.199 on the liberal side of the fence, you know, we 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.320 saw this with Brittant Archer and Scott Morrison back you know, 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.639 the last government. You know, they would be screaming bloody murder. 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.200 They would be calling alban Asi a misogynist and saying, 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.399 oh have they got a woman problem, a problem with 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:36.440 Muslims and all that. 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.359 Yeah, And I think Christy's right, this does show a 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.200 sign of weakness. Bridget McKenzie's used the same word. I 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.639 think they're right to use that word. Albaneze was weak. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.200 He did not discipline fatim of payment at a time 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.520 when she knew very well, when she crossed that floor, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.280 she knew her time was up within the Labor Party. 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:02.240 And to just imagine the those conversations behind closed doors 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.760 when it came to that decision process. From all accounts, 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:07.920 this was a captain's pick by the Prime Minister to 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.159 let her get away with this behavior. I'd like to 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.640 see the next person within Labor get away as long 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:17.359 as she did. I was sitting in I was sitting 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:21.159 there waiting when that vote went through, We're all in 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.320 the office said at the very same time there's a 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:31.280 brand new cross bench Independent and within hours we're sitting 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.359 there still scratching our heads, going how is she getting 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.720 away with this? Why wasn't the announcement made? Days went on. 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.640 She knew she was facing the acts when she did that. 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.080 The Prime Minister didn't follow through. As far as I'm concerned, 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:45.040 he's weak. 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:47.800 Yeah, indeed, and I think probably not. I could get 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.000 a lot of disagreement on that one here, but now, look, 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:51.760 let's move on to another sue. There's so much else 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:53.840 to cover, James, want to stick with you just for 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:57.399 a second because Qui's ad election coming up. Youth crime 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.320 is now turning into the big issue. Let's have a 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.520 look at what David Chrisafully has had say about that 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:05.520 in a speech today. 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:11.040 Two hundred and eighty nine thousand, six hundred and fifty 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.440 seven victims in a calendar. 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.879 Year, more than Victoria and New South Wales. 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.840 Despite their population dwarfing else a thirteen percent increase. Despite 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.320 the government say that they'd implemented the tough laws to 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.359 deal with them, the youth crime crisis keeps getting worse 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.720 under Labor James. 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.840 Everybody I talked to in Queensland, particularly friends who live 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.920 in regional centers, people live in places like Townsville, say 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.800 this is the issue that's going to determine their vote. 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.560 Is this the biggest issue? And does Devid Chrisa fully 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.520 have a way to actually do something about it besides 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:45.919 just talking about do you think. 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.240 Yeah it is? It's certainly bigeria wherever you go in Queensland. 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.200 This problem has been going on for a decade now, 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.919 more or less under Labor, and particularly in regional towns 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.480 like Townsville. But because these continue to get away with it, 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.080 that word has spread and now we've got a state 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:08.639 that's just inundated with youth crime in particular, but crime 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.720 in general. And the big issue that we face here 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.800 in Queensland is these kids just get a slap on 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:16.400 the wrist. It's all well and good for David chris 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.399 and fully to talk tough, but we're going to make 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:22.880 sure the courts follow through with what the people expect. 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.720 Because while we're attuned to this on the conservative side, 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.000 one nation have been talking about youth crime for a 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:32.119 long time, but we know that it's part of the 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:34.359 problem within the court system. You can make all the 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:38.239 rules you want in legislation, but unless our judges are 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:40.760 prepared to follow through with it, you're never going to 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.600 get tough sentencing on these kids. And I'm sorry, but 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.520 part of this education process also starts at home. Stop 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.480 taking away the rights and parents to be able to 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.119 discipline their kids. And I look at kids, you know 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.120 it starts from a very young age. At the weekend, 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:57.520 I was at the sushi train and the kids standing 0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:00.560 all over the seats, touching everything. Parents have got to 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.119 start with some discipline at home as well. Teachers have 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.800 got to be able to discipline within the classroom and 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:09.600 stop being held to ransom by these kids. You know, 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:13.280 I can tell you right now we've got two school teachers, 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.200 high school school teachers in this electorate that I'm in 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:21.359 of Keppel, who are on paid suspension right now within 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:25.000 the Queensland education system because they dared run in to 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:28.560 break up fights. Now you can't do that. Where is 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:32.639 the ability for people to hold these kids accountable? So 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.040 we've got to get some respect back into our youth 0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:38.680 and that means parents been held accountable also as well. 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:42.040 Our teachers given the power. But law enforcement and our 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:46.160 courts have to follow through. So I say, welled under 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.639 chris A. Fully, he's certainly hearing what I'm hearing, but 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:50.560 you've got to get tough on the courts too. 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.520 And thank god for those little plastic covers over the 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:55.600 fish on the sushi trend too. I mean, you know 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:57.400 you don't want to put in the paws all over 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:01.560 that too. But Christy, you're down and Melbourne right now 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:05.080 they're going the other way and they are going to 0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:10.720 lower the age of criminal responsibility as I understand it. Now, 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.560 how do you reckon Victoria which seems to be a 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:19.360 state unto itself in terms of common sense around what 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.160 they do with well pretty much anything. I mean, but 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.400 that's a whole other story. How do you think that's 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:25.080 going to go down? 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.200 Look, Melbourne is a beautiful city to live in and 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:34.240 I love it. And if you're looking for that European vibe, 0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.200 as everyone always says about Melbourne, it's certainly now got 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:41.840 that recovering from post communism Eastern European vibe to it. 0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:48.080 That's probably something we don't talk about down at Tourism Victoria. However, 0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:53.040 because the government is just embedded, they are showing no 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:58.320 sign of the votes changing to the coalition. The opposition 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:05.280 here has really manage to get any cut through. Laws 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:10.440 that beholden to the left faction of the socialist Left, 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:14.240 which is a dominant faction in the Premier, the Premier's 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:18.200 office and within the Victorian government here get up. And 0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.840 so this Age of Criminal Responsibility Bill has been on 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.960 the table for quite some time and there was some 0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:29.320