1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being here. Thanks being part of 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: the show. I'm glad you made it. Did you hear 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: the episode of Wednesday with Snazana Would She talked about 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: going back to university or going to university as a 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: single mom in her mid twenties, late twenties even, and 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: I asked her the other day, why did you do 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: a science degree? She was at the time, she was 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: a dental nurse, I think, which she used to do, 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: had a year of study to do that, but why 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: are science degree? And her answer was just the most 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: excellent answer because it had a really hard degree the 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: once she chose. Her answer was just the most excellent answer, 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: one I certainly did not expect, and one that's got 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: me thinking about some of my own challenges in front 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: of me and some of the ones I've chosen and 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: haven't chosen, some of the ways I challenge myself. And 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 1: it's really got me thinking because I'm someone who does 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: bang on a bit about how you know there's always 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: growth from adversity and well, I appreciated Snazhanna's reminder of this. 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: So if you haven't heard the episode on Wednesday, don't worry. 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: I'll let you know Snaez's answer in just a second. 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: But I do need to play some ads, so I'll 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: be right back after the break. Good Ay, welcome to 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: the show. It's better than yesterday, helping you make today 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: better than yesterday since twenty thirteen. Glad you could be here. 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm Washing Ginsburg. I am a podcaster, clearly, I am 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: a best selling author. I am a husband. I am 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: a dad, I am a stepdad. I am a TV 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: show format developer. I am a weely bin taker out 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: of her I am a hopefully tomorrow a tiger grass 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: digger uppero scratchy stuff for that tiger grows. But I'm 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: glad you're here. Thanks for being a part of it. 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for sending me your feedback. Oshaginsburg dot com. There's 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: a little contact for me there. You can also leave 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: me a voicemail. Rachel reached out. Cheers Rachel. She wanted 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: to say thanks for the episode about using kindness to 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: deal with hate. It's a couple of episodes back in 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: the feed she said, thanks to the episode. I try, 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: but I come off like a cactus. But you encourage 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: me to do better. And I'm happy to help you 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: feed your family because I make the joke of when 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: I play the ads, you help me feed my family, 43 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: which you are so think you. But let me be clear, Rachel, 44 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: don't think for a second that I'm perfect. I do 45 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: not pretend to be perfect. I would like to think 46 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: that we each encourage the other to be better, because 47 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: while I do not come off like a cactus, I 48 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: am often like a pufferfish. That is how I refer 49 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: to myself. Super cute sometimes with the big manga eyes 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I've just got my little tone 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: of humongous eyeballs and little little fins. But put under pressure, 52 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: there's like hundreds of venomous spikes that pop out, and 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: there's massive big beach ball of death. Because one pufferfish 54 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: has the venom to kill thirty people. I'm not going 55 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: to do that. I'm not going to kill anybody. But 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: I can get spucky if I don't mind my own 57 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: self regulation and mind myself. Like you said, you have 58 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: the cactus, I have the puffer fish. I guess the 59 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: thing I try to do is I try to notice 60 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: the feelings as they come, and I try to have 61 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: a strategy to deploy before they do. That could be 62 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: taking a breath or breathing or just listening. Sometimes I 63 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: actually even bite my tongue. It could be, and it 64 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: definitely has been in the last few months. I'm just 65 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: going to go outside for a sec because I don't 66 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: want to see anything I'm going to regret, and I'll 67 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: remove myself. But it starts with noticing. Rach starts with 68 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: just noticing, and perhaps what Snazana has to say might 69 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: be a bit of an inspiration to you around around that, because, 70 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: like I said, Sajana Wood was here on Wednesday. She 71 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: has a degree in molecular genetics and biotechnology. Yeah, she 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: was completing that when I first met her when she 73 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: was on Batch. I think I show on Batch, and 74 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: then she graduated right after Batch. When I asked her 75 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: the other day, why why did you study that degree? 76 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: A super super hard degree, she said, because I didn't 77 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: think I could do it. And I absolutely loved that answer. 78 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: She signed up to university course as a single mum 79 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: and a really really hard university course, even though she 80 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: found it really difficult to She hapens right up about 81 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: it in the show. She worked super hard and graduated 82 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: with a degree. I remember actually the night that she 83 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: first met Sam and we all sit in the control 84 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: room and what everybody come out of the limo and 85 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, you've got the bio in front of you 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: and you're reading, so you're getting some everybody. It's one 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: of the most fun nights on the production because you're 88 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: kind of you were all getting to know the people 89 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: for the first time. I remember looking down going she's 90 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: doing biotech. Look at her. She's literally the love interest 91 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: in a Bond film. In my mind, I think I 92 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: hire five of the casting executive, but I probably didn't 93 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: because you have to be quiet in the controller room. 94 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: But it was one of those casting was like that 95 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: bang on, and you know, casting did a cracking job, 96 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: clearly because they have a beautiful family and many kids 97 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: and they have a lovely relationship and it's lovely. But 98 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Snares set herself a challenge that she didn't think she 99 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: could achieve. Well, part of her probably could, like she 100 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't have written it down or she didn't think, yeah, 101 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: I reckon, I could do it, but it'll be fucking hard. 102 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: But she set her off this challenge which she said, 103 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: I didn't think I could do it, and then when 104 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: she's done, she's transformed herself into a person that could 105 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: do it, and I really like that. I really really 106 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: like that because it reminded me a bit of my 107 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: old boss, my first television boss, Barry Chapman. He ran 108 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Channel V, one of the true legends of Australian broadcasting 109 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: round a station in the Sydney called TUSM, and then 110 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: later on took Triple J Nashell and then worked for 111 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Triple I'm taking them national and then ended up a 112 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: Channel V. A guy with just true, true vision, just 113 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: unstoppable drive, and he really taught me so much about 114 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: the balance between holding that huge vision and the economic 115 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: realities of the business in your head at the same time. 116 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: And it was Barry that first taught me about the 117 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of challenge that Snais had set for herself. These days, 118 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: they're referred to as stretch goals. But when I heard 119 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 1: about him from Barry, he used very nineties management speaker 120 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: at the time was the nineties. He called the b Hag. 121 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: He had a voice like that Boo Hags, big hairy, 122 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: audacious goals. He used to be a Triple M announcer 123 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: in the eighties, so he spoke like that. It was great. 124 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: The big hairy audacious girl maybe you've heard your older 125 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: managers talk about that, but it's called stretch goals now 126 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: because something hairy, I don't know. And if Channel V 127 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: had any effect on you at all or brought you 128 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: something that you never got anywhere else, that's because we 129 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: had said ourselves, big hairy, audacious stretch goals, big stretch 130 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: goals because in their nature they're really inspiring. The first 131 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: night I met him, I remember he said something along 132 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: the lines of we're going to reinvent television. And now 133 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: that's pretty inspiring and it's pretty motivating because it immediately 134 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: gives permission to everybody on the team for different thinking 135 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: and sets out on the horizon. There's thing to aim 136 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: at and work towards, even when you're tired, even when 137 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: the budgets are thin, you're like, this is what we're doing. 138 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: And we've got a boss that's captaining the ship, and 139 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: I know that he's in the vite for us, and 140 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: we're going to get there. And I'd like to think 141 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: we went a long way to achieve that, because when 142 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: it comes to work, if you want to work on 143 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: something that's meaningful and challenging, finding a place to work 144 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: with a boss like that that's moving in those ways. 145 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: That is about as good as you can get. And 146 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: the people that I work with at that place all 147 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: have a similar experience. But you don't need to be 148 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: in a television network or have a job on TV 149 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: to have these things or to do these things. You 150 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: can actually set these kind of stretch goals for yourself. 151 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: They're really powerful things to do. I mean think about 152 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: I think about your mate, for example, who ran a 153 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: five k. They became a person who could run a 154 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: five k because these stretch goals what they do is 155 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: they change how we go through the day. They ultimately, 156 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: when we achieve, they change who we are just by 157 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: doing them. Who ran the five k, they might have 158 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: even gone on to become a person who's like I know, 159 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm off to cans to go do an iron Man. 160 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 1: They've changed who they are. Goals like this, big stretch goals. 161 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: They're huge goals, huge things, big, huge, gigantic things for 162 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: a reason because the person we become even in attempting them, 163 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: is worth it. When I went to school in Amsterdam, 164 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: I learned a lot of stuff. They were like a 165 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: bunch of X. I think that one McKinsey or something 166 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: like that, guys who set this school up. And I 167 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: learned a lot of these techniques that I'd seen in 168 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: conferences and stuff, and I learned to kind of newer 169 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: and more interesting versions of them at this school, which 170 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: is really cool. And they talked about smart qualers. Yeah, 171 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: I can't do a Dutch accent, but it was pretty fun. 172 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: And it's an acronym smart so specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, 173 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: and time bound. So specific means you've it's got to 174 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: be clearly defined the goal. You've got to know what 175 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: success looks like. It's going to be measurable. You need 176 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: to be able to track your progress towards that goal. 177 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: It needs to be achievable. Like Snares saying I'm going 178 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: to go do a science degree. Clearly she could think 179 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: like there was with all of the resources and then 180 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: a bit of luck and something that you discover along 181 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: the way, she could achieve it. Like she's not going 182 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: to be like I'm going to do a double backflip 183 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: one of Kawasaki. Man, you know that she could have. 184 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, but like, I can't do that. I'm 185 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: not going to set that as a goal because it's 186 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: not something that I think I could do at all, 187 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: make sure the goal is achievable, and sure that it 188 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: is it's realistic. It can be super challenging and way 189 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: out there, but in alignment with where you're already going 190 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: and in alignment with your values. And that brings onto 191 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: the r which is that it's relevant. If it's aligned 192 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: with your values and align with your priorities, it makes 193 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: it a lot easier to work super duper hard on it, 194 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: and people will understand why you're dedicating time to it. 195 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: And if it is time bound, if it's linked to 196 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: a deadline, well then that that's it. There's no butts 197 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: or ifs or ands. I think that's how you're saying, 198 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: you've got to get there, and you can set these 199 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: things for yourself. I'll tell you about one of mine 200 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: in just a moment, where one of my goals is 201 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: to make enough money from this podcast to support my 202 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: family completely. There's a few other things that I need 203 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: to do at the moment to make it happen. But 204 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: you right now are going to help me take a 205 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: step towards it by listening to is the Mats We 206 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: right back. Cheers for listening. I was really inspired listening 207 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: to Sinajana the other talking about choosing to do a 208 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: university degree because she didn't think she could do it 209 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: and she wanted to challenge herself. You know, she talked 210 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: about it, and you know, I've discussed it a bit, 211 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: turning into the kind of person that could do this 212 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: thing she otherwise thought she couldn't do. And I'm a 213 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: fan of such things. And we talked about that. You 214 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: can set these goals for yourself. These they called stretch 215 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: goals in management speak. But you know, just a big goal, right, 216 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: So to really set the goal for yourself clearly, and 217 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: it's important, it's got to be clear, a specific goal. 218 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: You to clearly define it. It's important to think about 219 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: what isn't in your life. Yet, However, something that truly 220 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: excites you is big enough to get you out of 221 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: bed in a cold morning when your body hurts or whatever, 222 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: and really really aligns with your values and who you 223 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: are and who you want to be in the world, 224 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: then you may want to perhaps consider how you could 225 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: leverage the things you're already good at and perhaps parts 226 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: of yourself you'd like to challenge. Now, these goals can 227 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: be long. You're a cent a one person Chinese Communist 228 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: Party you can see a thirty year plan in place. 229 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking ten years, twenty years, thirty year timeframes longer 230 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: if you've got more time. I mean, I'm fifty, so 231 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: doing anything more than thirty years, I don't know if 232 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: that's going to make sounse runch and thinking about what 233 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: are you building? What's your legacy? Like this? This is 234 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: how big we're talking, right, It might be helpful if 235 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: I talked about one of might One of mine is 236 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: that I want to have the kind of physicality and 237 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: the kind of strength and flexibility so that on the 238 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: night of Wolfgang's twenty first birthday, I will be able 239 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: to beat any single one of his mates in a 240 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: push up challenge. I will be sixty six. Now, that 241 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: is a lot of work between now and then. However, 242 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: that kind of goal, for me, it's worth doing because 243 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: of who I get to become to achieve that. I mean, 244 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: even if none of his mates are those kind of people. 245 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: Even if I like, oh, your dad's weird, and what's 246 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: the push up against me? Like sure, I don't care. 247 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: I'd be happy to have that strength and flexibility when 248 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm sixty six. I would love to be in that 249 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: kind of shape. When I'm sixty six, I have sixteen 250 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: years between now and then. However, given that I am 251 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: up against my body now essentially in decline, I think 252 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: the work is worth it. There would be so many 253 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: more benefits even if I don't do any push ups 254 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: on the line of his twenty first I think it'd 255 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: be really, really worth it. And so there we go. 256 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: It's a smat. It's specific, measurable, achievable, relevant. It's time 257 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: about specific. I told you exactly what the goal is. 258 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: It's measurable. I can see how well I'm doing. I'm 259 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: probably going to need to. If I could get to 260 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: one hundred in a row, that's probably going to be 261 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: even you know, that's a fair number. If one of 262 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: his mates get to one hundred, wism me, then we're 263 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: all high fiving, and that's pretty good night. It's achievable. 264 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: It's fucking challenging, but I've watched enough videos of people 265 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: who were that age and old are doing it to go, okay, well, 266 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: humans can do it. I'm a human, therefore I can 267 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: do it. It's relevant because it aligns with my values 268 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: and my priorities. It aligns with who I want to 269 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: be in the world. It aligns with that. I just 270 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: want to be vital. I want to have lifespan. That 271 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: is what I want to do. I used to deliver 272 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: groceries to pensions. I used to see how immobility and 273 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: lack of inertia in people's lives affected them and the 274 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: way they interacted with the world, and it was quite 275 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: a slippery slope on the other side of that. I 276 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: do not want that. And it is well and truly 277 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: time bound. There is a date, it's right there. It's 278 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: in twenty forty and it's on and I can't do 279 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: it right now, and I want that in my life. 280 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: The next thing to do, get on the plan, break 281 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: it down into tiny, little minute goals, itty bitty steps 282 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: between here and there. I have a little under five 283 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: nine hundred days to achieve this. Now, obviously I'm going 284 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: to have setbacks, but again, who I get to be 285 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: to get there that is going to be also well 286 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: freaking worth it. And when it comes to these things, 287 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: the smallest step that is towards that, these really big 288 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: stretch goals, that's all it takes. It just takes just 289 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: a little grain of sand dropped down and then you know, 290 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: by the time you get to five, nine hundred and 291 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: one days later, you've got a beach, but you've got 292 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: to do it all the time. That's just one of 293 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: my stretch goals. You know, if you've never had one, 294 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: I would encourage you to try one. There's a few 295 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: other stretch goals that I've got, or big, hairy, audacious ones, 296 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: but I would encourage you just try it. MythBusters to 297 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: remember that show, MythBusters. I do love it. I think 298 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: it was Adam, the non bity one, I think that 299 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: was his name. He said something along the line. So 300 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: the difference between science and fooling around with explosives is 301 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: writing down the results, and that's a beautiful thing. So 302 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: I'd say the difference between a dream and a goal 303 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: is writing it down. Just write it down. If you 304 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: feel like sharing it. You don't have to, but you can. 305 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: There's a contact form at Oshiginsburg dot com. 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