WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 3 February

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<v Speaker 1>Lately, General Man, Welcome to the Late Plain.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good evening and thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm James Macpherson with Liz Staorer and Caleb Bond coming

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<v Speaker 3>up tonight. We were going to show you all the

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<v Speaker 3>fashion from the Grammys Awards. However, the big story was

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<v Speaker 3>the lack of fashion, in fact, the lack of any

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<v Speaker 3>clothes at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Will show you some of that a little later on.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus, when we get to the papers, the Environmental Defender's

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<v Speaker 3>Office looks set to be stripped of their charity status,

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<v Speaker 3>and business leaders urging the federal government to ditch their

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<v Speaker 3>renewables goals in order to save small business. We'll get

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<v Speaker 3>to all of that, as I said, when we look

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<v Speaker 3>at what's making news tomorrow. But first you might imagine

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<v Speaker 3>the Australian Defense Force exists, you know, to fight wars.

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<v Speaker 3>As Rush Limbaugh once said, the military exists to kill

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<v Speaker 3>people and to break things. But those at the top

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<v Speaker 3>of the Australian Defense Force as well, they have different ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>They seem to regard our military as a sort of

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<v Speaker 3>camouflage Petrie dish in which to indulge their woke fantasies.

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<v Speaker 3>They've currently advertised a one hundred and thirty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>position for a quote gender Diversity and Inclusion officer. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the task of this person in our military is to

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<v Speaker 3>make science and technology research within the ADF more gender diverse. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>back in November twenty twenty two, there was research done

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<v Speaker 3>to show that if Australia went to war today, we

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<v Speaker 3>would run out of ammunition within one week, and the

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<v Speaker 3>ADF's response to that seems to be, well, we need

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<v Speaker 3>more women. There was a report last year that said

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<v Speaker 3>of our six submarines, only one of them is actually operational.

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<v Speaker 3>So the ADF reply with, let's get some non binary

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<v Speaker 3>sailors as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's craziness.

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<v Speaker 3>As was pointed out by Shadow Defense Minister Andrew Hasty,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, the no fail mission of the Defense Force

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<v Speaker 3>is to fight and win Australia's wars. Everything must support

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<v Speaker 3>this vital mission. Our military, he said, is not a

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<v Speaker 3>test tube for social engineers or the plaything of political activists,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's absolutely right. For a start, we live in

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<v Speaker 3>perilous times. Everybody agrees this is one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous environments we've ever faced in terms of geopolitics, and

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<v Speaker 3>our Defense Force is engaging in woke nonsense like this.

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<v Speaker 3>On top of that, everyone knows the budget is tight

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<v Speaker 3>at present, Australia spends less than two percent of GDP

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<v Speaker 3>on defense. That's not enough in the best of times,

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<v Speaker 3>let alone when, as I said, when times are perilous.

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<v Speaker 3>So to be wasting the little money we have for

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<v Speaker 3>defense on a gender diversity officer seems to be quite reckless. Third,

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<v Speaker 3>we all know that there's massive problems recruiting soldiers to

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<v Speaker 3>the ADF and maybe one of the reasons for that

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<v Speaker 3>is what young men want to go and fight for

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<v Speaker 3>a country that seems more concerned with recruiting women and

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<v Speaker 3>non binary officers than even having enough ammunition to actually

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<v Speaker 3>fight a war.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, it's a bit of a worry.

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<v Speaker 3>When the people at the top of our military seem

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<v Speaker 3>to be, if not on board with this, at least

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<v Speaker 3>shrugging their shoulders at it and allowing.

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<v Speaker 2>It to go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you think that there's not a problem, consider

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<v Speaker 3>last July, the Australian Defense Force put out a press

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<v Speaker 3>release boasting and I quote, doubling down on diversity. While

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<v Speaker 3>America is running from diversity, the ADFRE doubling down caleber Liza.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually listed six diversity areas that they are focused on.

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<v Speaker 2>This is July last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll name them for you, though you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 3>guess what they are. Women, first Nations, LBGTQIA plus linguistically diverse.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought was interesting because you can't have too many

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<v Speaker 3>soldiers for whom English is a second language. Ready aim

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<v Speaker 3>and the other two groups were disabled people and autistic people, whom,

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<v Speaker 3>of course they described as neuro guyverse. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>focus of our top military grass at a time when

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<v Speaker 3>everyone says war could be imminent in our region.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you were going for linguistically diverse there when

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<v Speaker 4>you started stuttering between giving us the last two options there.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually want a diverse military. I'm going to say,

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<v Speaker 4>I want a diverse military. I want a diversity of weapons.

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<v Speaker 4>I want a diversity of tanks. I want a diversity

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<v Speaker 4>of killers. That's what I want. I want them to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to do the job. I don't care whether

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<v Speaker 4>they're fat, shorts or whatever. I just want them to

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<v Speaker 4>actually be really good at the job.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the silliest thing here.

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<v Speaker 4>Right We're talking about a gender diversity officer who is

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<v Speaker 4>trying to make the research team in science and technology,

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<v Speaker 4>more gender diverse.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it matter.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we're not even talking about soldiers if we're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about people who are doing research in this the military, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I want the best minds in the country working in

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<v Speaker 4>that room. Again, I don't care if they're gay, or

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<v Speaker 4>they're straight, or they're black, or they're brown, or their brindle.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the.

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<v Speaker 4>Best people in the country in that room working on

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<v Speaker 4>technology and science that will.

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<v Speaker 1>Defend my country.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll pay obscene amounts of money to get the best

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<v Speaker 4>people from anywhere. It shouldn't even enter the discussion. And

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<v Speaker 4>what you have is while the US in particular, which

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<v Speaker 4>is leading a revolt against all of this stuff across

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<v Speaker 4>the world and particularly through the corporate world, and most

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<v Speaker 4>of the corporate world exists in America and that will

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<v Speaker 4>eventually have flow on a fix to the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the world. But while America is having a revolt against

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff, you have the government and its arms in

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<v Speaker 4>Australia doubling down and going even harder. And you have

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<v Speaker 4>to wonder whether they're going even harder. Almost as a

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<v Speaker 4>little fu to Trump to say, oh, look at us,

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<v Speaker 4>where different. But I'm afraid to tell you people are

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<v Speaker 4>sick of it. They're sick of it everywhere. They're sick

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<v Speaker 4>of it in the US, the sick of it in

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<v Speaker 4>the UK, they're sick of it in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>And as Peter Lee.

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<v Speaker 4>Said last week in The Australian, the ex Army Chief

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<v Speaker 4>and you alluded to it, the reason people don't sign

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<v Speaker 4>up to the military anymore is because there's no national

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<v Speaker 4>pride and they don't feel like this country is worth defending.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they look at this and they go, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I will go and join the military. And then

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<v Speaker 4>they go, oh, damn, I'm not a woman. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>make it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, why would you want to sign up?

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<v Speaker 5>But the numbers don't actually hold this up. Do you

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<v Speaker 5>know how many applicants we had to the ADF last year?

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<v Speaker 5>Go on, sixty four thousand. Sixty four thousand people applied

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<v Speaker 5>to join the ADF. Now, at the beginning of twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four, we were four thousand, three hundred short of

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<v Speaker 5>the authorized military strength. We are four thousand, three hundred

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<v Speaker 5>short of the permanent numbers that the ADF is allowed

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<v Speaker 5>to have. It's now twenty twenty five. Guess how many

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<v Speaker 5>we are short? Four thousand, three hundred the exact same number.

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<v Speaker 5>How is this possible when you had sixty four thousand applicants.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you why. The average time that it takes

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<v Speaker 5>them to process these applications three hundred days. Who were

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<v Speaker 5>among us would apply for a job and wait three

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<v Speaker 5>hundred days to hear back. These people are just going

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<v Speaker 5>off and finding other jobs. How is it possible that

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<v Speaker 5>not even ten percent of those sixty four thousand applicants

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<v Speaker 5>were up to scratch, Especially at a time when you've

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<v Speaker 5>got these six diversity points. You want more women. You're

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<v Speaker 5>lowering your standards. You're like, hey, if you have a disability,

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<v Speaker 5>we will make exceptions. Prior to this, that was unheard of.

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<v Speaker 5>People simply weren't allowed into the forces unless you were

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<v Speaker 5>sound of mind and very sound of body. There's you know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's quite ruling links that you have to go to

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<v Speaker 5>to prove yes, I'm fit enough. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>any of us would even make it in there. I'd

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<v Speaker 5>love to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell and I would probably be general.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm speaking for all of us, Mac, and you know

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<v Speaker 5>I am. But do you want to recruit people or not?

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<v Speaker 5>Because you know those numbers now? And I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>quite obvious that the answer is no. How is that

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<v Speaker 5>even possible, especially at a time when, as Mack said,

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<v Speaker 5>perilous times you're always bashing about, oh, we need more people,

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<v Speaker 5>We're not getting enough people. We're just not recruiting enough.

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<v Speaker 5>People are leaving, there's turnover, we're not even at replacement rates.

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<v Speaker 5>You had sixty four thousand applicants. Where the hell are they?

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<v Speaker 5>And how have you not done something about this cumbersome,

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<v Speaker 5>clearly ineffective procedure whereby you are onloading people. Why haven't

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<v Speaker 5>you done something about that? The question I'm asking is

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<v Speaker 5>very simple, do you want to recruit or not? And

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<v Speaker 5>if you look at the raw data, the answer is no.

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<v Speaker 4>This is why we need a doze to go and

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<v Speaker 4>clean this crap up.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that all the people who are applying as straight

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<v Speaker 4>white men, and they're turning them away because.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not In terms of that, you know, you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the lengthy application process, right, but what if what

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<v Speaker 3>if people just put their pronouns on their resume?

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<v Speaker 2>It would speed up the.

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<v Speaker 3>Process because then they could sift through the ones that

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<v Speaker 3>they wanted. Your comic Caleb that maybe it's just an

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<v Speaker 3>f you to the Trump administration. The great irony of that,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, is that if war does break out in

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<v Speaker 3>the Pacific, the first phone call the Australian government will

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<v Speaker 3>make will be to Donald Trump to say, hey, get

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<v Speaker 3>your stuff down here, we need help.

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<v Speaker 2>So good luck with that if that's the case.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say that you said before, Liz, you

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<v Speaker 4>know who among us would be able to make it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd put you at the top.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd put you at the top because you could stair

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<v Speaker 4>someone down with a gun and kill them, no questions asked.

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<v Speaker 1>You would be fiering.

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<v Speaker 4>You would be fier But do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think Liz would take orders from anybody? That's a fact

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<v Speaker 3>that you'd be caught mustered within five minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so true.

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<v Speaker 5>As if they were rolling out this kind of crap.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been kicked out on day one, I'd be like, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut up exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, speaking of the US, who will come to our

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<v Speaker 3>help if there is a war that breaks out, they're

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the way they help people around the world

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<v Speaker 3>through USA. Now that's their foreign aid arm and they

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<v Speaker 3>currently spend forty million dollars, sorry, forty billion dollars a

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<v Speaker 3>year providing foreign aid through US Aid but Trump has

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<v Speaker 3>put a nine month suspension on all aid while they

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<v Speaker 3>review what's actually happening, because they found out.

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<v Speaker 2>Through Doge looking at all that's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>They're spending money on condoms for Gaza, there's climate justice

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<v Speaker 3>marketing services for people in Gaboon.

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<v Speaker 2>There's clean energy programs for women in Fiji.

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<v Speaker 3>All of this under foreign aid, which clearly is a

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<v Speaker 3>waste of taxpayer money. Now, when Musk and his Doze

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<v Speaker 3>Committee went in to look at how money was being

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<v Speaker 3>spent by USAID, security tried to keep them out. So

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<v Speaker 3>Trump has now put on leave up to one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>us AID staff, some of whose emails have been revoked

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<v Speaker 3>as they look at what's going on here now.

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Miller, who's the.

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<v Speaker 3>White House Deputy chief of Staff, pointed out on CNN

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<v Speaker 3>one of the big problems with the way foreign aid

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<v Speaker 3>is being dispensed by America is that those responsible for

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<v Speaker 3>it are all lefties.

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<v Speaker 2>Have listened to what he said.

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<v Speaker 6>There's two million employees in the federal government. Overwhelmingly the

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<v Speaker 6>career of federal service in this country is far left

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<v Speaker 6>left wing. The American people, I don't know that to

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<v Speaker 6>be a fan. Well, I'll give me you a great example.

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<v Speaker 6>We looked at USAID as an example. That's ninety eight

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<v Speaker 6>percent of the workforce either donated to Kamala Harris, another

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<v Speaker 6>left wing candidate, just as an example.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but we're just saying an entire workforce is having

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<v Speaker 2>a point.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait wait, who WHOA?

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<v Speaker 6>Did you just say that saying someone voted for Kamala

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<v Speaker 6>Harris is demonizing them? No, so of course your suggestion

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<v Speaker 6>is that there's a by so you use the word demonizing.

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<v Speaker 6>You just said that I'm demonizing somebody by saying they

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<v Speaker 6>voted for Kamala Harris. Let's get back on I just

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<v Speaker 6>I am on track. Let me stay on track. What

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<v Speaker 6>I'm saying to you is this, there are two million

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<v Speaker 6>employees in the federal government. Right, they're overwhelmingly leftist turn to.

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<v Speaker 3>The reactions has been extraordinarily is from USA. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>want anyone scrutinizing the money. But when you've got forty

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars annually, if you don't have someone looking over

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<v Speaker 3>that regularly, it's ripe for corruption and graft. On top

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<v Speaker 3>of that, if you really believe foreign aid is important,

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<v Speaker 3>as I think all of us would, then it's incredibly important.

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<v Speaker 3>To scrutinize it to make sure that money is being used.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think the whole idea is that it is deliberately used badly,

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<v Speaker 5>like us AI d is that guy referred to it

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<v Speaker 5>because he's like, this is not aid and the Trump

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<v Speaker 5>administration knows it. It's been used as a front for

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<v Speaker 5>the CIA for many, many years, worst cap secret. Look

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<v Speaker 5>it up. Don't take my word for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Best examples of this is the one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 5>seven billion that's been sent to Ukraine, and Zelensky sat

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<v Speaker 5>there saying, well, I've only received seventy seven billion. I've

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<v Speaker 5>only received seventy seven billion. They keep saying one seventy

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<v Speaker 5>seven billion, where's the other one hundred and what most

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<v Speaker 5>people don't know, again, don't take my word for it,

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<v Speaker 5>look it up, is that Ukraine is a very long

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<v Speaker 5>history of selling weapons on the black market. Between ninety

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<v Speaker 5>two and ninety eight, they trafficked, for one of a

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<v Speaker 5>better word, sold off that was stolen or lost in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of arms in the UK, thirty two billion American

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<v Speaker 5>dollars worth of it. And it's now again look it up.

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<v Speaker 5>It's being said by those in the know that over

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<v Speaker 5>half of the arms being sent to Ukraine is being

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<v Speaker 5>sold by the Ukrainian military on the black market because

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<v Speaker 5>they're pocketing the money. The US doesn't send them money.

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<v Speaker 5>The US sends them arms, and they're like, well, we

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<v Speaker 5>want money and we want to be able to spend

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<v Speaker 5>it however we like. And this is what USA does.

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<v Speaker 5>It just dolls out ginormous, like mind blowing amounts of

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<v Speaker 5>money in foreign countries in which they want to create

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<v Speaker 5>a stronghold. They'll fund resurgencies against governments they don't like

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<v Speaker 5>because that government is acting against US interests. They use

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<v Speaker 5>this not as aid, and heck, we do the same

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<v Speaker 5>thing with our aid. We all know it's not very ad.

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<v Speaker 5>We're trying to buy the favor of certain countries or

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<v Speaker 5>in the case of establishing American hegemony in different regions,

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<v Speaker 5>buying up these NGOs. So these NGOs go, Okay, all

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<v Speaker 5>this money available to us through USAID, We're going to

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<v Speaker 5>start up an NGO, get the money from the government,

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<v Speaker 5>spend it as they will, and then guess who's some

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<v Speaker 5>of the biggest donors to the Democratic Party these NGOs.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's also been this brilliant money laundering type of

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<v Speaker 5>exercise for the Democratic Party within the States for a

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<v Speaker 5>very long time. So there's another reason why Trump is

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<v Speaker 5>just like, I am gotting this thing. Say goodbye to

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<v Speaker 5>your gravy train, and we are having another look at

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<v Speaker 5>what this agency is actually doing. The fact that their budget,

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<v Speaker 5>USAID's budget is bigger than the State Department and the

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<v Speaker 5>CIA's combined. And yet this is an independent agency. An

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<v Speaker 5>independent agency, are you kidding me? Funded billions and billions

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<v Speaker 5>of dollars by the US taxpayer that has no idea

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<v Speaker 5>how this money is being spent, not for real.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the.

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<v Speaker 4>Most bizarre thing about it is that you have an

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<v Speaker 4>outfit that is charged with distributing foreign aid, but it

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<v Speaker 4>is an independent agency, so it operates as an independent

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<v Speaker 4>arm of the government, which is like, for instance, in

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<v Speaker 4>Australia the Communications and Media Authority, which has a certain

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<v Speaker 4>level of separation from government because it regulates the communications

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<v Speaker 4>and media market and you don't want the government itself

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<v Speaker 4>to interfere in it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can understand that.

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<v Speaker 4>But when we're talking about foreign aid, which is surely

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<v Speaker 4>a decision of a government to make about your money goes,

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<v Speaker 4>that is a separate, independent entity that is allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>spend the money as it wishes without the interference of

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<v Speaker 4>the government and the president.

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<v Speaker 1>That's literally insane.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the decisions that are made about where foreign

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<v Speaker 4>aid goes in Australia are made by a minister and

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<v Speaker 4>their department. They're not made by a separate organization that

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<v Speaker 4>independently gets to spend billions and billions of dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>However it wants.

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<v Speaker 4>The Prime Minister can stand up and say this is

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<v Speaker 4>how much foreign aid we've got. It's put down in

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<v Speaker 4>the budget and this is where it's going to be spent,

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<v Speaker 4>bing bang boon. In the US, they can't do that

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<v Speaker 4>because it's literally taken away. And that's what Trump is

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<v Speaker 4>trying to do, is wrestle that control of this money.

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<v Speaker 4>He could spend as much, he could spend more, he

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<v Speaker 4>could spend less, but that surely should be the prerogative

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<v Speaker 4>of the present to decide how that money is spent.

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<v Speaker 1>At the moment, he can't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>When the people he has sent to work out and

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<v Speaker 4>look at the books go down to the office, they

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<v Speaker 4>try to block them from coming in the front door

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<v Speaker 4>because they know what they're going to find.

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<v Speaker 3>Marco Rubio has said they've got three objectives now with

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<v Speaker 3>going through the books with a fine tooth comb, rooting

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<v Speaker 3>out waste, blocking woke projects, I would suggest there's a

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<v Speaker 3>good number of those, and stopping all projects that are

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<v Speaker 3>counter to US interests. Have got quite a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>criticism because you've said the purpose of usaid is to

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<v Speaker 3>make America safer, America stronger, and America more prosperous. So

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<v Speaker 3>you would have thought maybe the first thing was to

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<v Speaker 3>help the poor in the down and outs. But they're saying, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>even our foreign aid has to be to America's advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the right of every sovereign country, So

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<v Speaker 3>get control of it and make sure it's for your interest.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, in Mariny, Americans at the moment are just like,

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<v Speaker 5>how do we call a foreign aid? Like, we have

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<v Speaker 5>enough problems right now, can we just cool it? And

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<v Speaker 5>that's exactly what Trump has done with this nine month period,

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<v Speaker 5>just being like, while we go over the books, nothing,

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<v Speaker 5>no one's getting a scent. We are absolutely just going

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<v Speaker 5>through everything making sure this is up to scratch and

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<v Speaker 5>good on him. Who wouldn't be if you're an American taxpayer,

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<v Speaker 5>you'd just be like, well, thank god.

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<v Speaker 4>The charity begins at home. As indeed, speaking of charity

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<v Speaker 4>beginning at home, Remember when Donald Trump, after his inauguration,

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<v Speaker 4>went to a national prayer service at an Episcopalian church

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<v Speaker 4>and the bishop marrying bud gave him this treatment.

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<v Speaker 7>The people who our crops and clean our office buildings,

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<v Speaker 7>who labor and poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who washed

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<v Speaker 7>the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the

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<v Speaker 7>night shifts and hospitals. They they may not be citizens

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<v Speaker 7>or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of

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<v Speaker 7>immigrants are not criminals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, remember that.

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<v Speaker 4>And the faces of Trump and Milani and JD. Vans

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<v Speaker 4>as they listen to all this go on, and she

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<v Speaker 4>goes on about how transgender people are fearing for their

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<v Speaker 4>lives now in Trump's America was all quite odd, and

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<v Speaker 4>you'll remember that Trump responded afterwards. He said, the so

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<v Speaker 4>called bishop who spoke at the National Prayer service on

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<v Speaker 4>Tuesday morning was a radical left, hardline Trump hater. She

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<v Speaker 4>brought her church into the world of politics in a

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<v Speaker 4>very ungracious way. She was nasty in tone and not

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<v Speaker 4>compelling or smart. She failed to mention the large number

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<v Speaker 4>of illegal immigrants that came into our country and killed

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<v Speaker 4>people when he were deposited from jails and mental institutions.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a giant crime wave that is taking place

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<v Speaker 4>in the USA. Apart from her inappropriate statements, the service

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<v Speaker 4>was a very boring and uninspiring one. She is not

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<v Speaker 4>very good at her job. She and her church owe

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<v Speaker 4>the public and apology. Well, they certainly owe the public

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<v Speaker 4>and apology, but I think they also owe the public

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<v Speaker 4>affair deal of thanks because we now know why she

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<v Speaker 4>went so hard on Donald Trump in that sermon. It's

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<v Speaker 4>because her church made fifty three million dollars out of

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<v Speaker 4>the Biden administration to resettle migrants in America under programs

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<v Speaker 4>that Trump has now paused.

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<v Speaker 1>So this wasn't her.

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<v Speaker 4>Genuinely standing there saying I'm so worried about the state

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<v Speaker 4>of the world, and I'm saying this because I'm a Christian.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this because it lines the pockets of my church.

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<v Speaker 4>And of course, at no point did she mention the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that they got this fifty three million dollars to

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<v Speaker 4>resettle three thousand, six hundred refugees in America last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry that was twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 4>Last year, they had six four hundred people that they

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<v Speaker 4>resettled in America, pocketing all this money through another arm

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<v Speaker 4>they called the Episcopal Migration Ministry. Isn't it, Candravenien, isn't

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<v Speaker 4>it that the man walks in who's decided to cut

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<v Speaker 4>off the flow of money, Because you're just making shed

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<v Speaker 4>loads by getting a bunch of people to come over

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<v Speaker 4>to America. And that's a lot of money. Fifty three

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars for a few thousand people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a bad racket.

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<v Speaker 4>He turns the tap off and all of a sudden, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>she's so worried about these migrants and these transgender people

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<v Speaker 4>who are fearing for their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she was worried about the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you should be too critical calib

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Jesus said you can't serve God and money.

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<v Speaker 3>But the bishop is going to give it a shot anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fact is they get up this fifty three

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not for providing anything for these refugees. This

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<v Speaker 3>is simply connecting refugees with service providers. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a pretty great job. And then American government they

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<v Speaker 3>pay for the airfares for these refugees to arrive in

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<v Speaker 3>the US.

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<v Speaker 2>If these refugees end up paying back the government the.

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<v Speaker 3>Cost of the airfares, the Episcopalian Church gets twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the airfares as a bonus for helping these.

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<v Speaker 2>People settle well.

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<v Speaker 3>So clearly this bishop had a massive conflict of interest

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<v Speaker 3>which was not shared from the pulpit. If the church

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<v Speaker 3>want to help the poor, then the church should help

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<v Speaker 3>the poor foot the bill themselves. But you can't be

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<v Speaker 3>claiming to be the church helping the poor when you're

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<v Speaker 3>expecting the taxpayer to put the hand in their pocket

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<v Speaker 3>and do it. Anyway, this bishop has clearly ruined the

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<v Speaker 3>Episcopalian Church, and now she's trying to ruin the country.

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<v Speaker 5>But when you consider they got fifty three million to

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<v Speaker 5>settle three thousand, six hundred and like you say, not

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<v Speaker 5>actually settle them, just connect them with the Organization the

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<v Speaker 5>Middle we will settle them. And the article says, we

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<v Speaker 5>don't know the figure for last year. That is twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty three's figure. We don't know the twenty twenty four figure,

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<v Speaker 5>but they settled almost double the people last year. So

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<v Speaker 5>you can imagine we're probably talking in the vicinity of

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<v Speaker 5>well over one hundred million dollars last year. So she

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<v Speaker 5>is seeing a lot of shiggy walk out the door,

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<v Speaker 5>and she's very unhappy about it. But what she thought

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<v Speaker 5>she was going to achieve vibrating a brand new president

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<v Speaker 5>which got overwhelmingly the popular vote. This guy is missed her.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone wanted him. Okay, there's no denying that. And she

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<v Speaker 5>thought instead of uniting Americans, who a lot of them

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<v Speaker 5>are Bible believers and would have tuned in and been like, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>this is the National Prayer Service, instead of uniting Americans

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<v Speaker 5>and getting a powerful message that everyone could get behind,

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<v Speaker 5>she basically picked out the entire Trump campaign's main bastions

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<v Speaker 5>of what they campaigned on and begged him not to

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<v Speaker 5>do it, all the LGBTIQ stuff as well as the

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<v Speaker 5>refugee stuff. I mean, talk about screaming into a pillow.

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<v Speaker 4>Who would have thought that bullying Donald Trump is not

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<v Speaker 4>the big way to get the man to change his mind.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure she has much political smarts this last.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she may be putting people off church in

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<v Speaker 3>the US, but I'll tell you, people are turning to

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<v Speaker 3>God in Victoria. At least year twelve students are because

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<v Speaker 3>they'll need a miracle if their exams are to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you look.

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<v Speaker 3>At the track record of the Victorian Education Department, that's

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<v Speaker 3>if they don't get leaked. Well that's where I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>with this, So I mean it goes from bad to worse.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember that last year year twelve students were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do their exams in Victoria, but the Victorian Curriculum

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 3>and Assessment Authority and a few problems with the exams.

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 3>That is that about half of them were leaked prior

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 3>to students sitting the exams, and then thousands of students,

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 3>having prepared, couldn't actually do the exams, and then they

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 3>had to work out how are they going to assess

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 3>them not having been able to actually sit the exams.

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 3>So the whole thing was an absolute mess. Well, it's

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five, a brand new year. Hopefully the Education

0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 3>Department in Victoria are going to do better, but it

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 3>seems not so. The Education Department decided to put together

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<v Speaker 3>a website.

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<v Speaker 2>How hard could that be.

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 3>It's a pretty simple website, just you know, so people

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 3>can access basic data like enrollment details, your exam timetables,

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 3>and you know, maybe you could get access to your

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 3>own academic record. Now, the first point of interest with

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.640
<v Speaker 3>this website that is going to provide these pretty basic

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 3>points of data is the Victorian government was going to

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:29.239
<v Speaker 3>spend two point four million dollars on a website. This

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.400
<v Speaker 3>website isn't designing rockets. It's just so you can access

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 3>your exam timetable and get hold of your academic records.

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Two point four million dollars. But you know what Victoria

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 3>is like. This thing is not going to come in

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:44.120
<v Speaker 3>on time or on budget. It's not being produced yet

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 3>and it's already twenty five percent over budget. A report

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<v Speaker 3>in The Herald's Sun revealed that the Student Portal Project,

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 3>which will give senior students access to enrollment details, exam

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.880
<v Speaker 3>timetables and academic records through a new digital channel, had

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<v Speaker 3>its delivery cost cut. I'm from two point four one

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 3>million to three point zero three million, and the projects

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 3>revised delivery date also appears to not have been met.

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<v Speaker 3>What I don't understand about this, Caleb is Ben Carroll

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:17.120
<v Speaker 3>is the Education minister in Victoria. He's also the Deputy Premier.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 3>He put his hand up for leadership of Victoria when

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 3>Dan Andrews resigned I mean, you think Jacinta Allen is bad.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Thank god this guy didn't become the premier because his

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.959
<v Speaker 3>department screwed up exams for thousands of kids. Now they

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 3>can't even get a website in on time or on budget.

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 4>Well, clearly we need a Minister for Websites to start

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 4>looking after this stuff. I mean, for goodness sake, I

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<v Speaker 4>was staggered when I read that number. Even two point

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<v Speaker 4>four one million dollars turn out to build a website

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 4>that's got some timetables and exam results on it, and

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 4>then it becomes three million. I mean, I'm pretty sure

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 4>one of my best mates at school, who's quite appted

0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 4>in has ability in all of these areas, could have.

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Done it for a fraction of that. I reckon he

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 1>could have done it for a few grand to be

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>perfectly honest.

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 4>Another one of these government contracts that I wish I

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 4>could get my hands on, because I'll take the three

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 4>million dollars and then I'll just outsource it to some

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 4>bloke in Manila who I'm sure can do it for

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 4>a fraction of that. But my favorite part of a well.

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 5>The sound of it, that's what these guys have done.

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 4>Probably my favorite part of all of this is that

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 4>they had already decided that the delivery date was going

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 4>to be March this year, twenty twenty five, and then

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 4>someone in their wisdom decided that they should change that

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 4>to August last year, twenty twenty four. I'm assuming they'd

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 4>only just been hired, because anyone who's been in government

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.920
<v Speaker 4>for any period of time knows that you don't bring.

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 1>The delivery date backwards to make it sooner. You always

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>send it further down the line because it gets.

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Pushed over the edge.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 4>Who thought they were actually going to this is going

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 4>to come fast. It's a government project that's going to

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 4>come faster now.

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.239
<v Speaker 3>It's been taking Victorian bureaucrats, so they probably decided we'll make

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 3>it due in August twenty twenty four. But they made

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 3>that decision in October twenty twenty four.

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 2>That's right of your o thing they have.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 3>But this is typical in Melbourne, right, us in Melbourne

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 3>over Christmas and you're trying to travel on public transport

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 3>and they've got this my key system, which is absolutely hopeless.

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe this education portal has never been done

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 3>anywhere else in the world. Wouldn't you find one. I

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 3>don't know in New South Wales, maybe Queensland's got one.

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's one in New Zealand. You would find one

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 3>and just buy it off. The showf Coffee implement it

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 3>the same with their transport system, the New South Wales

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 3>transport system.

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 2>You tap on, you tap off. It works perfectly, but.

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Victoria had to invent their own and it's cost them

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 3>a huge amount of money, well over a billion dollars.

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Still doesn't work properly.

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 4>And it's delayed because they've been trying to upgrade it

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 4>so you can use your credit card and that's all

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 4>been delayed and it's blown out again. Was the story

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 4>the other day, Danny.

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 3>The latest thing, right, So when you go to the

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 3>train station, this is just last week, you've got a

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 3>person telling you via the announcements, tap on, but it

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 3>doesn't actually tap. You've got a hob of the card overpping.

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 3>You've been told to tap, but if you tap, it

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 3>doesn't work.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 2>But it's been over a billion.

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 5>Dollars cover and you're look like a failed magician being.

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 4>Like But because I was down in Melbourne on the

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 4>weekend and I don't know how many Mikey cards I

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 4>now have because I forget to take one with me.

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Every time I go back to Melbourne, I must have

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 4>through coat and jacket pockets in my wardrobe at least

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 4>a dozen Markeye cards because in Victoria, for those who

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 4>don't know, you can't actually tap with your phone like

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 4>you can in South Australia and New South Wales and most.

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Of the country.

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 4>You can't do it in Victoria. So every time I

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 4>go down there, I have to buy the Micie card,

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 4>which is six dollars and then put the credit on

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 4>top of it in order.

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>To use it.

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 4>I must have hundreds of dollars sitting on Mici cards

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 4>in my wardrobe.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 3>I got to tell you, I was at Southern Cross

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 3>station and I'm trying to use the Mikey card and

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 3>it is not working.

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I've put fifty bucks on it, right, I'm trying to

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 2>get this thing to work.

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Finally I give up, but fortunately they've got like an

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 3>information booth and there's three people standing around all.

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 2>With here to help you t shirts or whatever.

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 5>So I over I couldn't help.

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.719
<v Speaker 3>We spent ten minutes trying to work it, and then

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 3>said I don't know what to do with it.

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:08.239
<v Speaker 5>The public and It makes you feel very helping. Is

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 5>just doing what I've been doing for the last five

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 5>minutes to no avails.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>It makes you feel so silly.

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 4>I was on a train on Saturday from Warrigal to Melbourne,

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 4>right and these kids got on the train clearly without

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 4>a Markey card and they were carrying on and yelling

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 4>and shouting.

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Bunch of buffoons.

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 5>How did they get on there? Is it not like

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 5>Sydney where we have the barricade.

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 4>You get on and off, So it's like if you

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 4>go to a train station in Sydney that isn't a

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 4>central law whatever. You just tap on anywhere when you arrive.

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 4>There's no gates. So they get on at Warrigle where

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 4>I got on, and it's like that, and they got off.

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 4>I think it danned it on, which probably tells you

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 4>half the story, doesn't it. But they carried on right

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 4>throughout the trip, and the inspector came down and checked

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 4>all our marking cards and he walked past the kids

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 4>and I thought, hang on a minute, and he got

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 4>a bit further down and then he turned around and

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 4>came back and the kids said to him straight up,

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 4>we don't have iikey cards and he said, I gathered that,

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 4>but please don't vape.

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>On the train. What am I doing paying to use

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the train?

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 4>So if you have the inspects, I know you haven't

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 4>got a mikey, but can you're not vape.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 3>So if you're asked by an inspector on Victorian Rail

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 3>like do you have a ticket?

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 2>You say no, but neither of my vape.

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not vaping, so let me get away with it.

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 5>He's like, yeah, I know you're breaking that law, but

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 5>the other one, don't break that one. To the UK, now,

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 5>where counter protests have been running rife through the streets

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 5>of London, you've probably heard of activist Tommy Robinson.

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>This guy is a.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 5>Very colorful character. He has gotten up to a lot

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 5>in his time. He's known as like an online jock,

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 5>but goodness me, he's done a lot of unsavory things,

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 5>including forging documents, flying into countries on the different identities.

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 5>But he gets around the world and he does expose

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 5>quite a few things going on in what you might

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 5>call the deep state. Well right now, Tommy Robinson is

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 5>serving eighteen months in jail in the UK. This is

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 5>for a case that dates back to twenty twenty one

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 5>where he was found guilty of libel against a fifteen

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 5>year old refuge but being Tommy Robinson, he then disregarded

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 5>the injunction related to that label and went ahead and

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 5>repeated it. So now he's in jail for eighteen months now.

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 5>Whether you think that that's good or bad, I don't

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 5>know that you should be jailed for words. To me,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 5>that seems rather and I think Elon Musk agrees with

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 5>me because he's taken to Twitter to say release Tommy Robinson.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 5>Because one of his good pieces of work was a

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 5>sizeable documentary you can find it online that was all

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 5>about the grooming gang scandal. And it was this piece

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 5>of brilliant doco work by Tommy Robinson who just gets

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 5>around with a camera by himself, doing all the work

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 5>that journalists are supposed to do but don't because they

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 5>have vested interests and the media bodies that they're working

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 5>for wouldn't cover the work anyway. So he publishes this

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 5>doco on x It goes absolutely viral, and now we

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 5>all know about the Pakistani grooming gangs in the UK

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 5>and what has been happening for well over a decade.

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 5>So this guy is currently behind bars, and check out

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 5>the scenes in London, not only a protest demanding he

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 5>be freed, but a counter protests saying no cap him

0:33:36.680 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 5>in there.

0:33:59.520 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 5>One of the think has really exacerbated the situation is

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 5>the fact that Tommy Robinson, among other things, has always

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 5>been very hardline anti Islam in the UK, and we

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 5>know that well, there's a lot of Islam in the UK.

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 5>Now a lot of British people are feeling completely overwhelmed,

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 5>completely overrun by the amount of immigration, legal and illegal

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 5>in their countries, and the vast majority of them from

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 5>Muslim countries. So I'm wondering how much of this protest

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 5>has to do with the fact that they could actually

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 5>give a sod about Tommy Robinson and the reason why

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 5>he's behind bars, which again I think in this case

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 5>is questionable. He had to pay out to that fifteen

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 5>year old refugee one hundred thousand pounds. I don't know

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 5>what he said, but good grief, one hundred thousand pounds.

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 5>But I think that this outlaw and he actually is,

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 5>has become the face of this movement now because he

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 5>is a champion pushing back on the mass immigration, and

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 5>that's who these people are rallying behind because we don't

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 5>cover it enough. But these protests in the UK are

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 5>happening on a weekly basis. Now, tens of thousands of

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 5>Brits are taking to the streets saying we want our

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 5>country back.

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 4>He has become a lightning rod. And it's quite similar

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 4>I think to that case last year where a number

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 4>of young girls were stabbed at a Taylor Swift dance

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 4>lesson right, and there was misinformation put online saying that

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 4>it was a refugee who'd done it, and that caused

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.720
<v Speaker 4>protests all over the UK saying, you know, we should

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.280
<v Speaker 4>be safe in our own country.

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>So the thing that becomes the cause.

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 4>Of it, or the face of it, or the lightning

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:53.280
<v Speaker 4>rod for it is often questionable, but it is because

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 4>there are underlying issues in a country that eventually lead

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 4>people at a certain moment to come out and say

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<v Speaker 4>we need to do something about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're talking.

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<v Speaker 4>About a country in the UK. Well, it will England

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.799
<v Speaker 4>in Wales for this statistic, but we're talking about a

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.320
<v Speaker 4>country where the number one name for boys in twenty

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.439
<v Speaker 4>twenty three was Muhammad. I mean, oh it was last

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 4>year in the UK, right, So no wonder people feel like, well,

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 4>hang on a minute, this doesn't look like the country

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I grew up, and this doesn't look like the country

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<v Speaker 4>I recognize. And if it's Tommy Robinson or it's someone else,

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't matter. Someone becomes the lightning rod for it.

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 4>And even if an imperfect person, as Robinson quite clearly is,

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 4>start saying what a lot of people are thinking, they'll

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<v Speaker 4>put aside their differences with him and say, well, at

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.240
<v Speaker 4>least he's saying the stuff that needs to be said.

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 4>And that's the danger in people not saying what is

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.919
<v Speaker 4>plainly obvious, because if you won't say it, someone else will,

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 4>and it may will be someone unsavory who starts saying it.

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the silence of conservatives on matters of truth makes

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 3>heroes of rogues or as you said, outlaws, and then

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 3>of course the whole issue gets muddied. Right, So the

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 3>right protest about immigration levels and a discussion on that

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 3>gets confused with the character of Tommy Robinson, yes, and

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 3>the whole thing just and.

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<v Speaker 5>Then they can besmirch everyone who's protesting in his name,

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 5>oh radical right wing bunch of rabble. So yeah, it

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:21.800
<v Speaker 5>definitely plays off against.

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 3>It if conservatives don't speak about the issues that people

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 3>on the street feel strongly about, and these are issues

0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 3>that people really care about. Then some rogue talks about it,

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 3>and then you end up with what we end up with.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break.

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:34.840
<v Speaker 3>When we come back, we'll look at what's making news

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 3>in the papers, including the federal government being asked by

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 3>business please reconsider your renewables targets.

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 2>You're killing us. It's coming up in this a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, welcome back. Let's take a look at what's

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 3>making headlines tomorrow. Liz, you've got the Northern Territory.

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Time, Yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 5>Future of EDIO unclear. This is good news. We don't

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<v Speaker 5>like the Environmental Defenders offers legal activist group. The Environmental

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 5>Defender's Office sounds so great, doesn't. It could be stripped

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 5>of its charity status if a watchdog finds it breach

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 5>public trust by coaching a witness against Santos. Hot tip

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:17.720
<v Speaker 5>if you're a witness against Santos, you really shouldn't need coaching.

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 5>I could do an hour long monologue for free without

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:25.239
<v Speaker 5>drawing breath. Shadow Resources Minister Susan McDonald has referred the

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 5>Legal Activist group to the Australian Charities and Not for

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:33.959
<v Speaker 5>Profits Commission. Here's hoping that the commission finds that they're

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 5>guilty and this guy does this guy, this place does

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 5>lose its charity status. It's arguable that it should have

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 5>it at all in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>We had to pay nine million dollars I think to

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Santos as a fine for being found guilty of coaching

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 3>witnesses against them, and part of the Charities Commission says

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.399
<v Speaker 3>that anyone who has charitable status should avoid serious risk

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:02.359
<v Speaker 3>to public trust and confidence in the charity sector, and

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 3>it would seem that they have done that.

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, I mean this thing gets public money as well.

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 4>They should be getting zero public money because they are

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 4>spending government money, taxpayer dollars to fight in often in

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 4>many cases projects that have actually received the support of

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 4>state and federal government. So the state federal governments are

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 4>paying to send out a mob to fight against the

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 4>projects that they are supporting and putting taxpayer money into.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just ridiculous.

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>DIO sounds like some sort of STD or something. Oh

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 4>you've got IDIO won't go near you, which.

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 5>Is probably amazing.

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Probably let's go to the front page of tomorrow's Herald's

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 3>son Premier's shock admission reads the headline, Well, I wonder

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 3>what just Center Allen has come up with. Allen concedes

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 3>more must be done to keep people safe. You don't

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 3>say and vow's action. Well, we'll wait and see. Bail

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 3>laws are too soft. That's just Center Ellen's conclusion. She

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 3>has conceded Victoria's bowl laws are too soft and has

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 3>ordered an immediate here we go a review. Well, I

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 3>think we can all wait with baited breath for that

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 3>review to be concluded. Sometime around twenty fifty eight. Just

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 3>last year, there was a sixteen year old in Melbourne

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 3>who was driving a stolen vehicle recording himself live streaming

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 3>on Facebook or whatever platform. It was boasting about the

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 3>fact that he was driving a stolen car and doesn't

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 3>care if he's picked up by the police because he'll

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 3>be back out on the street about ninety minutes later

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 3>doing it all over again. In fact, this sixteen year

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 3>old actually talked about how ridiculous it is that you

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 3>could be charged with murder as a young person in

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 3>Victoria and back out on the street in just a

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks. So when you've got teenage boys driving

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 3>stolen cars, live streaming themselves joking about how bad the

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:51.439
<v Speaker 3>criminal justice system is in Victoria. Do we really need

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 3>the premiere to suddenly have a Damascus Road experience and

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 3>realize what everybody else has known for a long time.

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 2>But this can be a review, so that surely will.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, it's just a matter of time before

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 5>it's going to be perfect. Honestly, I don't know a

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 5>single state or territory whose bail laws aren't a complete

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:14.000
<v Speaker 5>and utter nightmare. And this is something that they just

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 5>outright state. When you're doing criminal law at UNI, all

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 5>of the lecturers who are lawyers themselves are just like,

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 5>God help you. And at the end of the day,

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 5>what it comes down to is judicial discretion. It comes

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 5>down to the magistrates. So when you hear of these

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 5>cases of these kids committing fill in the blank and

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 5>walking free three seconds later, you've got to ask, has

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 5>this magistrate got rocks in their heads? Especially at a

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 5>time when like Queensland, like Victoria, we're seeing these kids

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 5>go on crime spreeze with the full confidence that there

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 5>will be no punishment meet it out.

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 4>And I think it shows that you said to Alan

0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 4>is worried. She's concerned that she could well lose government

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 4>next year when they go to a state election. And

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 4>what a turnaround from Daniel Andrews who was returned in

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty two with an extra seat, to the woman

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 4>who replaced him being very concerned that she could well

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 4>lose government. I've said it at the time in twenty

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 4>three when she took over as in many other people,

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 4>she sinder allen ate no Daniel Andrews, and I think

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 4>she's proving that quite well. Let's go to The Australian

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 4>to borrow, where it says eighty two percent of no charts.

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 4>Funny about that the nation's largest business body is predicting

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Labor will have to revisit its renewables target of twenty

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 4>thirty amid crippling energy prices and looming supply shortfalls, calling

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:45.359
<v Speaker 4>on Anthony Albersi to hold urgent talks with gas executives

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 4>to unleash the shackles of the resource so it can

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 4>play a bigger role in Australia's energy sector. Every time

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 4>we come across one of these stories, I feel like

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm bashing my head against a brick wall because for

0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 4>how long have we known? For how long have we

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.280
<v Speaker 4>been saying that we are not going to meet these

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 4>targets by twenty thirty And then once we get to

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 4>twenty thirty, they're going to set a target for twenty

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 4>thirty five, So you know, it's all stuffed. And as

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 4>the problem for us is that if you assign up

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<v Speaker 4>to the Paris Accords as we are, if you set

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 4>a target, you can only revise it upwards. You're not

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 4>allowed You're not under the terms of the Paris Agreement.

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 4>You're not allowed to revise your target downwards because you

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 4>realize you can't make it. So the only way to

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 4>actually get out of it is to pull out of

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 4>the Paris Accords, as we should do. But every expert

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 4>in the energy sector has known for years and has

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 4>been saying four years that we're not going to meet

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 4>these targets, and we're still talking about it.

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 3>And Chris Bowen's response to this is that we have

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 3>to have more renewables because coal is too unreliable. But

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 3>of course the reason that coal is unreliable is because

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 3>the government have created zero incentive for coal fired power

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 3>stations to receive.

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<v Speaker 2>Adequate Oh and they've got read if they haven't been

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>blown up by the government.

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 5>Yes, so the ones that are remaining are like, dear God,

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 5>you got rid of a pile of coal power stations,

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 5>and now the ones remaining are happening to work double

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 5>time to make up for the deficit because you stupid

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 5>flogs have realized in hindsight, Ah, we needed those. Yeah,

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:27.800
<v Speaker 5>actually we can't keep the lights on without And this again,

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 5>now gas is okay, gas was so bad we couldn't

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 5>have gas. No, no, we weren't going to be relying

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 5>on gas. Okay, we're going to be relying on gas

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 5>a little bit just to prop us up while we

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 5>get over the line. Okay, now we need a hell

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 5>of a lot more gas. And he's convening these meetings again.

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 5>How is the sector supposed to cope when for years

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 5>they've been told, actually, sit on your laurels. We are

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 5>not going to be putting the pedal to the metal

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 5>in your gas sector. We're very like question mark about it.

0:44:57.960 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 5>And then all of a sudden you have them turn

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 5>around and be like, we need you. I mean, what

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 5>kind of infrastructure, the people, power, all the rest of it.

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:10.839
<v Speaker 5>Are these poor people having to be like, oh great, now,

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 5>all eyes on us. We've got to keep the lights

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 5>on after you've been telling us for years we're all

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 5>but redundant.

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:18.919
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, well, I'll tell you one place where the lights

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 4>ought to go off. It's this blokes mosque. This story

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 4>word spreads radical back's new outposts. Now you will remember

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 4>this guy from last year and since October the seventh,

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 4>of course, he was talking about, you know, trees killing Jews, etc.

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 4>A cleric could have newly established Islamic center in Melbourne

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 4>backed by radical Sydney preacher with him, Haddad has lamented

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 4>that young Australian Muslims are being brainwashed, falling victim to

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 4>liberal ideologies, and that the first words spoken by a

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 4>child shouldn't be mother or father but Allah.

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Well there you go.

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad I'd take parenting advice from this blow. Had

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 4>you even poach a kid to say allah before it's

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 4>his mum or dad? For Heaven's sake. But isn't it

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:07.920
<v Speaker 4>funny these Muslim boys and girls are being taught about

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 4>liberal Western ideologies?

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 5>Hmm?

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Would that happen if you weren't living in Australia? What

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 1>do you think was going to happen? For goodness, say well.

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the fact is they can practice their religion

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 3>anyway they want it. If they think kids should say

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Allah before they.

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Say Mum or dad, that's their prerogative. The question we've

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 2>got to ask is, what are.

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 5>You doing in my country?

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Is that the sort of culture of a lot to foster?

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Are we happy about that?

0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 4>We are?

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 3>We think that's problematic. Maybe we should reflect that in

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 3>some of our policies. We're going to go to a

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.560
<v Speaker 3>break when we come back. Fashion or rather no fashion,

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 3>no clothes at all. At the Grammys, that's a moment.

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:46.359
<v Speaker 3>I think the US selection proved that we really don't

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 3>pay much attention to celebrities anymore. And I think they

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 3>know it, which is why the Grammys they're going to

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 3>such extreme lengths to try and get our attention. Check

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 3>out this outfit from Jaden Smith. He's the son of

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Will Smith. He literally went on the red carpet with

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 3>a house on his head. I'm not quite sure the

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 3>significance of that. Maybe there is no significance at all.

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 3>He just wanted to get on the Late Debate mission.

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean, some people can't even afford houses, and he's

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 4>walking around with one on his head now.

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 3>And I got to tell you, I thought that was

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 3>the worst thing on the red carpet. And then along

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 3>came Kanne's girlfriend, Bianca sensory, sensory by name, but not

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:29.720
<v Speaker 3>sensory by nature. She was basically wearing one leg of stocking. Evently,

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 3>karannye with all his money, couldn't afford to buy her address.

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:36.040
<v Speaker 3>And I would have thought, Caleb, somewhere between the burker

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 3>and that travesty, you know, maybe humanity could find I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know something that would be, you know, between the two.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like clothes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, look, if you or I walked around

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<v Speaker 4>in the nick, we probably get nicked for public indecency.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's art, Caleb, that's oh, for goodness sake, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're a celebrity, you can get away with it. Day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they need to check into an institution very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly before we go. He at tasked.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you've used it, but you can

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<v Speaker 4>go on there and advertise for all sorts of odd

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<v Speaker 4>jobs to be done around your house or even at.

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<v Speaker 1>The local park.

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<v Speaker 4>One bloke who's put up an ad saying, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>having a picnic in the afternoon or later in the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>I need someone to get down there in the morning

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<v Speaker 4>as soon as the park opens and reserve the park

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<v Speaker 4>bench for me. He is offering fifty dollars for someone

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<v Speaker 4>to go to a park in Randwick and sit at

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<v Speaker 4>the table for two hours so he can come along

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<v Speaker 4>later and use it. Fifty bucks doesn't sound like a

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<v Speaker 4>bad deal for me on a lazy morning.

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<v Speaker 1>But how about this one.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw this last week or a week or two

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<v Speaker 4>ago a blog advertising in Sydney for a fake girlfriend

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<v Speaker 4>five hundred dollars because he's going to a family dinner

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<v Speaker 4>and obviously mum keeps asking you know you've got a

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<v Speaker 4>girlfriend yet, and he's like, I will literally pay five

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<v Speaker 4>hundred dollars for a girl to come to family dinner

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<v Speaker 4>and pretend we're together again.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems like a pretty good deal to me.

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<v Speaker 5>He mustn't see his family often, though, because this is

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<v Speaker 5>if this is gonna be a long standing ruse, you're

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<v Speaker 5>just gonna have to be like, next time you see them, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we broke off. I mean, don't go to be a

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<v Speaker 5>long term plan.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred dollars for someone to pretend to break up

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<v Speaker 3>with me. That's it from us.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick Around. Coming up is The Reader Penney Show.