Speaker 1: Lately, General Man, Welcome to the Late Plain.
Speaker 2: Well, good evening and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Staorer and Caleb Bond coming
Speaker 3: up tonight. We were going to show you all the
Speaker 3: fashion from the Grammys Awards. However, the big story was
Speaker 3: the lack of fashion, in fact, the lack of any
Speaker 3: clothes at all.
Speaker 2: Will show you some of that a little later on.
Speaker 3: Plus, when we get to the papers, the Environmental Defender's
Speaker 3: Office looks set to be stripped of their charity status,
Speaker 3: and business leaders urging the federal government to ditch their
Speaker 3: renewables goals in order to save small business. We'll get
Speaker 3: to all of that, as I said, when we look
Speaker 3: at what's making news tomorrow. But first you might imagine
Speaker 3: the Australian Defense Force exists, you know, to fight wars.
Speaker 3: As Rush Limbaugh once said, the military exists to kill
Speaker 3: people and to break things. But those at the top
Speaker 3: of the Australian Defense Force as well, they have different ideas.
Speaker 3: They seem to regard our military as a sort of
Speaker 3: camouflage Petrie dish in which to indulge their woke fantasies.
Speaker 3: They've currently advertised a one hundred and thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: position for a quote gender Diversity and Inclusion officer. Now,
Speaker 3: the task of this person in our military is to
Speaker 3: make science and technology research within the ADF more gender diverse. Now,
Speaker 3: back in November twenty twenty two, there was research done
Speaker 3: to show that if Australia went to war today, we
Speaker 3: would run out of ammunition within one week, and the
Speaker 3: ADF's response to that seems to be, well, we need
Speaker 3: more women. There was a report last year that said
Speaker 3: of our six submarines, only one of them is actually operational.
Speaker 3: So the ADF reply with, let's get some non binary
Speaker 3: sailors as well.
Speaker 2: That's craziness.
Speaker 3: As was pointed out by Shadow Defense Minister Andrew Hasty,
Speaker 3: he said, the no fail mission of the Defense Force
Speaker 3: is to fight and win Australia's wars. Everything must support
Speaker 3: this vital mission. Our military, he said, is not a
Speaker 3: test tube for social engineers or the plaything of political activists,
Speaker 3: and he's absolutely right. For a start, we live in
Speaker 3: perilous times. Everybody agrees this is one of the most
Speaker 3: dangerous environments we've ever faced in terms of geopolitics, and
Speaker 3: our Defense Force is engaging in woke nonsense like this.
Speaker 3: On top of that, everyone knows the budget is tight
Speaker 3: at present, Australia spends less than two percent of GDP
Speaker 3: on defense. That's not enough in the best of times,
Speaker 3: let alone when, as I said, when times are perilous.
Speaker 3: So to be wasting the little money we have for
Speaker 3: defense on a gender diversity officer seems to be quite reckless. Third,
Speaker 3: we all know that there's massive problems recruiting soldiers to
Speaker 3: the ADF and maybe one of the reasons for that
Speaker 3: is what young men want to go and fight for
Speaker 3: a country that seems more concerned with recruiting women and
Speaker 3: non binary officers than even having enough ammunition to actually
Speaker 3: fight a war.
Speaker 2: And finally, it's a bit of a worry.
Speaker 3: When the people at the top of our military seem
Speaker 3: to be, if not on board with this, at least
Speaker 3: shrugging their shoulders at it and allowing.
Speaker 2: It to go ahead.
Speaker 3: And if you think that there's not a problem, consider
Speaker 3: last July, the Australian Defense Force put out a press
Speaker 3: release boasting and I quote, doubling down on diversity. While
Speaker 3: America is running from diversity, the ADFRE doubling down caleber Liza.
Speaker 3: They actually listed six diversity areas that they are focused on.
Speaker 2: This is July last year.
Speaker 3: I'll name them for you, though you'll be able to
Speaker 3: guess what they are. Women, first Nations, LBGTQIA plus linguistically diverse.
Speaker 3: I thought was interesting because you can't have too many
Speaker 3: soldiers for whom English is a second language. Ready aim
Speaker 3: and the other two groups were disabled people and autistic people, whom,
Speaker 3: of course they described as neuro guyverse. This is the
Speaker 3: focus of our top military grass at a time when
Speaker 3: everyone says war could be imminent in our region.
Speaker 4: I thought you were going for linguistically diverse there when
Speaker 4: you started stuttering between giving us the last two options there.
Speaker 4: I actually want a diverse military. I'm going to say,
Speaker 4: I want a diverse military. I want a diversity of weapons.
Speaker 4: I want a diversity of tanks. I want a diversity
Speaker 4: of killers. That's what I want. I want them to
Speaker 4: be able to do the job. I don't care whether
Speaker 4: they're fat, shorts or whatever. I just want them to
Speaker 4: actually be really good at the job.
Speaker 1: And that's the silliest thing here.
Speaker 4: Right We're talking about a gender diversity officer who is
Speaker 4: trying to make the research team in science and technology,
Speaker 4: more gender diverse.
Speaker 1: What does it matter.
Speaker 4: I mean, we're not even talking about soldiers if we're
Speaker 4: talking about people who are doing research in this the military, right.
Speaker 4: I want the best minds in the country working in
Speaker 4: that room. Again, I don't care if they're gay, or
Speaker 4: they're straight, or they're black, or they're brown, or their brindle.
Speaker 1: I want the.
Speaker 4: Best people in the country in that room working on
Speaker 4: technology and science that will.
Speaker 1: Defend my country.
Speaker 4: I'll pay obscene amounts of money to get the best
Speaker 4: people from anywhere. It shouldn't even enter the discussion. And
Speaker 4: what you have is while the US in particular, which
Speaker 4: is leading a revolt against all of this stuff across
Speaker 4: the world and particularly through the corporate world, and most
Speaker 4: of the corporate world exists in America and that will
Speaker 4: eventually have flow on a fix to the rest of
Speaker 4: the world. But while America is having a revolt against
Speaker 4: this stuff, you have the government and its arms in
Speaker 4: Australia doubling down and going even harder. And you have
Speaker 4: to wonder whether they're going even harder. Almost as a
Speaker 4: little fu to Trump to say, oh, look at us,
Speaker 4: where different. But I'm afraid to tell you people are
Speaker 4: sick of it. They're sick of it everywhere. They're sick
Speaker 4: of it in the US, the sick of it in
Speaker 4: the UK, they're sick of it in Australia.
Speaker 1: And as Peter Lee.
Speaker 4: Said last week in The Australian, the ex Army Chief
Speaker 4: and you alluded to it, the reason people don't sign
Speaker 4: up to the military anymore is because there's no national
Speaker 4: pride and they don't feel like this country is worth defending.
Speaker 4: And then they look at this and they go, oh,
Speaker 4: maybe I will go and join the military. And then
Speaker 4: they go, oh, damn, I'm not a woman. I can't
Speaker 4: make it.
Speaker 1: I mean, why would you want to sign up?
Speaker 5: But the numbers don't actually hold this up. Do you
Speaker 5: know how many applicants we had to the ADF last year?
Speaker 5: Go on, sixty four thousand. Sixty four thousand people applied
Speaker 5: to join the ADF. Now, at the beginning of twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four, we were four thousand, three hundred short of
Speaker 5: the authorized military strength. We are four thousand, three hundred
Speaker 5: short of the permanent numbers that the ADF is allowed
Speaker 5: to have. It's now twenty twenty five. Guess how many
Speaker 5: we are short? Four thousand, three hundred the exact same number.
Speaker 5: How is this possible when you had sixty four thousand applicants.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you why. The average time that it takes
Speaker 5: them to process these applications three hundred days. Who were
Speaker 5: among us would apply for a job and wait three
Speaker 5: hundred days to hear back. These people are just going
Speaker 5: off and finding other jobs. How is it possible that
Speaker 5: not even ten percent of those sixty four thousand applicants
Speaker 5: were up to scratch, Especially at a time when you've
Speaker 5: got these six diversity points. You want more women. You're
Speaker 5: lowering your standards. You're like, hey, if you have a disability,
Speaker 5: we will make exceptions. Prior to this, that was unheard of.
Speaker 5: People simply weren't allowed into the forces unless you were
Speaker 5: sound of mind and very sound of body. There's you know,
Speaker 5: there's quite ruling links that you have to go to
Speaker 5: to prove yes, I'm fit enough. I don't know if
Speaker 5: any of us would even make it in there. I'd
Speaker 5: love to know.
Speaker 2: Tell and I would probably be general.
Speaker 5: I'm speaking for all of us, Mac, and you know
Speaker 5: I am. But do you want to recruit people or not?
Speaker 5: Because you know those numbers now? And I think it's
Speaker 5: quite obvious that the answer is no. How is that
Speaker 5: even possible, especially at a time when, as Mack said,
Speaker 5: perilous times you're always bashing about, oh, we need more people,
Speaker 5: We're not getting enough people. We're just not recruiting enough.
Speaker 5: People are leaving, there's turnover, we're not even at replacement rates.
Speaker 5: You had sixty four thousand applicants. Where the hell are they?
Speaker 5: And how have you not done something about this cumbersome,
Speaker 5: clearly ineffective procedure whereby you are onloading people. Why haven't
Speaker 5: you done something about that? The question I'm asking is
Speaker 5: very simple, do you want to recruit or not? And
Speaker 5: if you look at the raw data, the answer is no.
Speaker 4: This is why we need a doze to go and
Speaker 4: clean this crap up.
Speaker 1: But maybe the problem.
Speaker 4: Is that all the people who are applying as straight
Speaker 4: white men, and they're turning them away because.
Speaker 3: They're not In terms of that, you know, you talk
Speaker 3: about the lengthy application process, right, but what if what
Speaker 3: if people just put their pronouns on their resume?
Speaker 2: It would speed up the.
Speaker 3: Process because then they could sift through the ones that
Speaker 3: they wanted. Your comic Caleb that maybe it's just an
Speaker 3: f you to the Trump administration. The great irony of that,
Speaker 3: of course, is that if war does break out in
Speaker 3: the Pacific, the first phone call the Australian government will
Speaker 3: make will be to Donald Trump to say, hey, get
Speaker 3: your stuff down here, we need help.
Speaker 2: So good luck with that if that's the case.
Speaker 4: I'm going to say that you said before, Liz, you
Speaker 4: know who among us would be able to make it.
Speaker 1: I'd put you at the top.
Speaker 4: I'd put you at the top because you could stair
Speaker 4: someone down with a gun and kill them, no questions asked.
Speaker 1: You would be fiering.
Speaker 4: You would be fier But do you.
Speaker 3: Think Liz would take orders from anybody? That's a fact
Speaker 3: that you'd be caught mustered within five minutes.
Speaker 4: It's so true.
Speaker 5: As if they were rolling out this kind of crap.
Speaker 5: I've been kicked out on day one, I'd be like, you.
Speaker 2: Shut up exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of the US, who will come to our
Speaker 3: help if there is a war that breaks out, they're
Speaker 3: looking at the way they help people around the world
Speaker 3: through USA. Now that's their foreign aid arm and they
Speaker 3: currently spend forty million dollars, sorry, forty billion dollars a
Speaker 3: year providing foreign aid through US Aid but Trump has
Speaker 3: put a nine month suspension on all aid while they
Speaker 3: review what's actually happening, because they found out.
Speaker 2: Through Doge looking at all that's going on.
Speaker 3: They're spending money on condoms for Gaza, there's climate justice
Speaker 3: marketing services for people in Gaboon.
Speaker 2: There's clean energy programs for women in Fiji.
Speaker 3: All of this under foreign aid, which clearly is a
Speaker 3: waste of taxpayer money. Now, when Musk and his Doze
Speaker 3: Committee went in to look at how money was being
Speaker 3: spent by USAID, security tried to keep them out. So
Speaker 3: Trump has now put on leave up to one hundred
Speaker 3: us AID staff, some of whose emails have been revoked
Speaker 3: as they look at what's going on here now.
Speaker 2: Stephen Miller, who's the.
Speaker 3: White House Deputy chief of Staff, pointed out on CNN
Speaker 3: one of the big problems with the way foreign aid
Speaker 3: is being dispensed by America is that those responsible for
Speaker 3: it are all lefties.
Speaker 2: Have listened to what he said.
Speaker 6: There's two million employees in the federal government. Overwhelmingly the
Speaker 6: career of federal service in this country is far left
Speaker 6: left wing. The American people, I don't know that to
Speaker 6: be a fan. Well, I'll give me you a great example.
Speaker 6: We looked at USAID as an example. That's ninety eight
Speaker 6: percent of the workforce either donated to Kamala Harris, another
Speaker 6: left wing candidate, just as an example.
Speaker 2: Okay, but we're just saying an entire workforce is having
Speaker 2: a point.
Speaker 4: Wait wait, who WHOA?
Speaker 6: Did you just say that saying someone voted for Kamala
Speaker 6: Harris is demonizing them? No, so of course your suggestion
Speaker 6: is that there's a by so you use the word demonizing.
Speaker 6: You just said that I'm demonizing somebody by saying they
Speaker 6: voted for Kamala Harris. Let's get back on I just
Speaker 6: I am on track. Let me stay on track. What
Speaker 6: I'm saying to you is this, there are two million
Speaker 6: employees in the federal government. Right, they're overwhelmingly leftist turn to.
Speaker 3: The reactions has been extraordinarily is from USA. They don't
Speaker 3: want anyone scrutinizing the money. But when you've got forty
Speaker 3: billion dollars annually, if you don't have someone looking over
Speaker 3: that regularly, it's ripe for corruption and graft. On top
Speaker 3: of that, if you really believe foreign aid is important,
Speaker 3: as I think all of us would, then it's incredibly important.
Speaker 3: To scrutinize it to make sure that money is being used.
Speaker 1: Well, well, I.
Speaker 5: Think the whole idea is that it is deliberately used badly,
Speaker 5: like us AI d is that guy referred to it
Speaker 5: because he's like, this is not aid and the Trump
Speaker 5: administration knows it. It's been used as a front for
Speaker 5: the CIA for many, many years, worst cap secret. Look
Speaker 5: it up. Don't take my word for it.
Speaker 1: And one of the.
Speaker 5: Best examples of this is the one hundred and seventy
Speaker 5: seven billion that's been sent to Ukraine, and Zelensky sat
Speaker 5: there saying, well, I've only received seventy seven billion. I've
Speaker 5: only received seventy seven billion. They keep saying one seventy
Speaker 5: seven billion, where's the other one hundred and what most
Speaker 5: people don't know, again, don't take my word for it,
Speaker 5: look it up, is that Ukraine is a very long
Speaker 5: history of selling weapons on the black market. Between ninety
Speaker 5: two and ninety eight, they trafficked, for one of a
Speaker 5: better word, sold off that was stolen or lost in
Speaker 5: terms of arms in the UK, thirty two billion American
Speaker 5: dollars worth of it. And it's now again look it up.
Speaker 5: It's being said by those in the know that over
Speaker 5: half of the arms being sent to Ukraine is being
Speaker 5: sold by the Ukrainian military on the black market because
Speaker 5: they're pocketing the money. The US doesn't send them money.
Speaker 5: The US sends them arms, and they're like, well, we
Speaker 5: want money and we want to be able to spend
Speaker 5: it however we like. And this is what USA does.
Speaker 5: It just dolls out ginormous, like mind blowing amounts of
Speaker 5: money in foreign countries in which they want to create
Speaker 5: a stronghold. They'll fund resurgencies against governments they don't like
Speaker 5: because that government is acting against US interests. They use
Speaker 5: this not as aid, and heck, we do the same
Speaker 5: thing with our aid. We all know it's not very ad.
Speaker 5: We're trying to buy the favor of certain countries or
Speaker 5: in the case of establishing American hegemony in different regions,
Speaker 5: buying up these NGOs. So these NGOs go, Okay, all
Speaker 5: this money available to us through USAID, We're going to
Speaker 5: start up an NGO, get the money from the government,
Speaker 5: spend it as they will, and then guess who's some
Speaker 5: of the biggest donors to the Democratic Party these NGOs.
Speaker 5: So it's also been this brilliant money laundering type of
Speaker 5: exercise for the Democratic Party within the States for a
Speaker 5: very long time. So there's another reason why Trump is
Speaker 5: just like, I am gotting this thing. Say goodbye to
Speaker 5: your gravy train, and we are having another look at
Speaker 5: what this agency is actually doing. The fact that their budget,
Speaker 5: USAID's budget is bigger than the State Department and the
Speaker 5: CIA's combined. And yet this is an independent agency. An
Speaker 5: independent agency, are you kidding me? Funded billions and billions
Speaker 5: of dollars by the US taxpayer that has no idea
Speaker 5: how this money is being spent, not for real.
Speaker 2: And that's the.
Speaker 4: Most bizarre thing about it is that you have an
Speaker 4: outfit that is charged with distributing foreign aid, but it
Speaker 4: is an independent agency, so it operates as an independent
Speaker 4: arm of the government, which is like, for instance, in
Speaker 4: Australia the Communications and Media Authority, which has a certain
Speaker 4: level of separation from government because it regulates the communications
Speaker 4: and media market and you don't want the government itself
Speaker 4: to interfere in it.
Speaker 1: You can understand that.
Speaker 4: But when we're talking about foreign aid, which is surely
Speaker 4: a decision of a government to make about your money goes,
Speaker 4: that is a separate, independent entity that is allowed to
Speaker 4: spend the money as it wishes without the interference of
Speaker 4: the government and the president.
Speaker 1: That's literally insane.
Speaker 4: I mean, the decisions that are made about where foreign
Speaker 4: aid goes in Australia are made by a minister and
Speaker 4: their department. They're not made by a separate organization that
Speaker 4: independently gets to spend billions and billions of dogs.
Speaker 1: However it wants.
Speaker 4: The Prime Minister can stand up and say this is
Speaker 4: how much foreign aid we've got. It's put down in
Speaker 4: the budget and this is where it's going to be spent,
Speaker 4: bing bang boon. In the US, they can't do that
Speaker 4: because it's literally taken away. And that's what Trump is
Speaker 4: trying to do, is wrestle that control of this money.
Speaker 4: He could spend as much, he could spend more, he
Speaker 4: could spend less, but that surely should be the prerogative
Speaker 4: of the present to decide how that money is spent.
Speaker 1: At the moment, he can't do that.
Speaker 4: When the people he has sent to work out and
Speaker 4: look at the books go down to the office, they
Speaker 4: try to block them from coming in the front door
Speaker 4: because they know what they're going to find.
Speaker 3: Marco Rubio has said they've got three objectives now with
Speaker 3: going through the books with a fine tooth comb, rooting
Speaker 3: out waste, blocking woke projects, I would suggest there's a
Speaker 3: good number of those, and stopping all projects that are
Speaker 3: counter to US interests. Have got quite a bit of
Speaker 3: criticism because you've said the purpose of usaid is to
Speaker 3: make America safer, America stronger, and America more prosperous. So
Speaker 3: you would have thought maybe the first thing was to
Speaker 3: help the poor in the down and outs. But they're saying, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: even our foreign aid has to be to America's advantage.
Speaker 3: I think that's the right of every sovereign country, So
Speaker 3: get control of it and make sure it's for your interest.
Speaker 5: Indeed, in Mariny, Americans at the moment are just like,
Speaker 5: how do we call a foreign aid? Like, we have
Speaker 5: enough problems right now, can we just cool it? And
Speaker 5: that's exactly what Trump has done with this nine month period,
Speaker 5: just being like, while we go over the books, nothing,
Speaker 5: no one's getting a scent. We are absolutely just going
Speaker 5: through everything making sure this is up to scratch and
Speaker 5: good on him. Who wouldn't be if you're an American taxpayer,
Speaker 5: you'd just be like, well, thank god.
Speaker 4: The charity begins at home. As indeed, speaking of charity
Speaker 4: beginning at home, Remember when Donald Trump, after his inauguration,
Speaker 4: went to a national prayer service at an Episcopalian church
Speaker 4: and the bishop marrying bud gave him this treatment.
Speaker 7: The people who our crops and clean our office buildings,
Speaker 7: who labor and poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who washed
Speaker 7: the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the
Speaker 7: night shifts and hospitals. They they may not be citizens
Speaker 7: or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of
Speaker 7: immigrants are not criminals.
Speaker 1: Yes, remember that.
Speaker 4: And the faces of Trump and Milani and JD. Vans
Speaker 4: as they listen to all this go on, and she
Speaker 4: goes on about how transgender people are fearing for their
Speaker 4: lives now in Trump's America was all quite odd, and
Speaker 4: you'll remember that Trump responded afterwards. He said, the so
Speaker 4: called bishop who spoke at the National Prayer service on
Speaker 4: Tuesday morning was a radical left, hardline Trump hater. She
Speaker 4: brought her church into the world of politics in a
Speaker 4: very ungracious way. She was nasty in tone and not
Speaker 4: compelling or smart. She failed to mention the large number
Speaker 4: of illegal immigrants that came into our country and killed
Speaker 4: people when he were deposited from jails and mental institutions.
Speaker 4: It is a giant crime wave that is taking place
Speaker 4: in the USA. Apart from her inappropriate statements, the service
Speaker 4: was a very boring and uninspiring one. She is not
Speaker 4: very good at her job. She and her church owe
Speaker 4: the public and apology. Well, they certainly owe the public
Speaker 4: and apology, but I think they also owe the public
Speaker 4: affair deal of thanks because we now know why she
Speaker 4: went so hard on Donald Trump in that sermon. It's
Speaker 4: because her church made fifty three million dollars out of
Speaker 4: the Biden administration to resettle migrants in America under programs
Speaker 4: that Trump has now paused.
Speaker 1: So this wasn't her.
Speaker 4: Genuinely standing there saying I'm so worried about the state
Speaker 4: of the world, and I'm saying this because I'm a Christian.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this because it lines the pockets of my church.
Speaker 4: And of course, at no point did she mention the
Speaker 4: fact that they got this fifty three million dollars to
Speaker 4: resettle three thousand, six hundred refugees in America last year.
Speaker 1: Sorry that was twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: Last year, they had six four hundred people that they
Speaker 4: resettled in America, pocketing all this money through another arm
Speaker 4: they called the Episcopal Migration Ministry. Isn't it, Candravenien, isn't
Speaker 4: it that the man walks in who's decided to cut
Speaker 4: off the flow of money, Because you're just making shed
Speaker 4: loads by getting a bunch of people to come over
Speaker 4: to America. And that's a lot of money. Fifty three
Speaker 4: million dollars for a few thousand people.
Speaker 2: That's not a bad racket.
Speaker 4: He turns the tap off and all of a sudden, Oh,
Speaker 4: she's so worried about these migrants and these transgender people
Speaker 4: who are fearing for their lives.
Speaker 1: No, she was worried about the bottom line.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you should be too critical calib
Speaker 3: I mean, Jesus said you can't serve God and money.
Speaker 3: But the bishop is going to give it a shot anyway.
Speaker 2: So the fact is they get up this fifty three
Speaker 2: million dollars.
Speaker 3: This is not for providing anything for these refugees. This
Speaker 3: is simply connecting refugees with service providers. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: it's a pretty great job. And then American government they
Speaker 3: pay for the airfares for these refugees to arrive in
Speaker 3: the US.
Speaker 2: If these refugees end up paying back the government the.
Speaker 3: Cost of the airfares, the Episcopalian Church gets twenty five
Speaker 3: percent of the airfares as a bonus for helping these.
Speaker 2: People settle well.
Speaker 3: So clearly this bishop had a massive conflict of interest
Speaker 3: which was not shared from the pulpit. If the church
Speaker 3: want to help the poor, then the church should help
Speaker 3: the poor foot the bill themselves. But you can't be
Speaker 3: claiming to be the church helping the poor when you're
Speaker 3: expecting the taxpayer to put the hand in their pocket
Speaker 3: and do it. Anyway, this bishop has clearly ruined the
Speaker 3: Episcopalian Church, and now she's trying to ruin the country.
Speaker 5: But when you consider they got fifty three million to
Speaker 5: settle three thousand, six hundred and like you say, not
Speaker 5: actually settle them, just connect them with the Organization the
Speaker 5: Middle we will settle them. And the article says, we
Speaker 5: don't know the figure for last year. That is twenty
Speaker 5: twenty three's figure. We don't know the twenty twenty four figure,
Speaker 5: but they settled almost double the people last year. So
Speaker 5: you can imagine we're probably talking in the vicinity of
Speaker 5: well over one hundred million dollars last year. So she
Speaker 5: is seeing a lot of shiggy walk out the door,
Speaker 5: and she's very unhappy about it. But what she thought
Speaker 5: she was going to achieve vibrating a brand new president
Speaker 5: which got overwhelmingly the popular vote. This guy is missed her.
Speaker 5: Everyone wanted him. Okay, there's no denying that. And she
Speaker 5: thought instead of uniting Americans, who a lot of them
Speaker 5: are Bible believers and would have tuned in and been like, yes,
Speaker 5: this is the National Prayer Service, instead of uniting Americans
Speaker 5: and getting a powerful message that everyone could get behind,
Speaker 5: she basically picked out the entire Trump campaign's main bastions
Speaker 5: of what they campaigned on and begged him not to
Speaker 5: do it, all the LGBTIQ stuff as well as the
Speaker 5: refugee stuff. I mean, talk about screaming into a pillow.
Speaker 4: Who would have thought that bullying Donald Trump is not
Speaker 4: the big way to get the man to change his mind.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure she has much political smarts this last.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she may be putting people off church in
Speaker 3: the US, but I'll tell you, people are turning to
Speaker 3: God in Victoria. At least year twelve students are because
Speaker 3: they'll need a miracle if their exams are to go.
Speaker 2: Well, if you look.
Speaker 3: At the track record of the Victorian Education Department, that's
Speaker 3: if they don't get leaked. Well that's where I'm going
Speaker 3: with this, So I mean it goes from bad to worse.
Speaker 3: You remember that last year year twelve students were trying
Speaker 3: to do their exams in Victoria, but the Victorian Curriculum
Speaker 3: and Assessment Authority and a few problems with the exams.
Speaker 3: That is that about half of them were leaked prior
Speaker 3: to students sitting the exams, and then thousands of students,
Speaker 3: having prepared, couldn't actually do the exams, and then they
Speaker 3: had to work out how are they going to assess
Speaker 3: them not having been able to actually sit the exams.
Speaker 3: So the whole thing was an absolute mess. Well, it's
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, a brand new year. Hopefully the Education
Speaker 3: Department in Victoria are going to do better, but it
Speaker 3: seems not so. The Education Department decided to put together
Speaker 3: a website.
Speaker 2: How hard could that be.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty simple website, just you know, so people
Speaker 3: can access basic data like enrollment details, your exam timetables,
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe you could get access to your
Speaker 3: own academic record. Now, the first point of interest with
Speaker 3: this website that is going to provide these pretty basic
Speaker 3: points of data is the Victorian government was going to
Speaker 3: spend two point four million dollars on a website. This
Speaker 3: website isn't designing rockets. It's just so you can access
Speaker 3: your exam timetable and get hold of your academic records.
Speaker 3: Two point four million dollars. But you know what Victoria
Speaker 3: is like. This thing is not going to come in
Speaker 3: on time or on budget. It's not being produced yet
Speaker 3: and it's already twenty five percent over budget. A report
Speaker 3: in The Herald's Sun revealed that the Student Portal Project,
Speaker 3: which will give senior students access to enrollment details, exam
Speaker 3: timetables and academic records through a new digital channel, had
Speaker 3: its delivery cost cut. I'm from two point four one
Speaker 3: million to three point zero three million, and the projects
Speaker 3: revised delivery date also appears to not have been met.
Speaker 3: What I don't understand about this, Caleb is Ben Carroll
Speaker 3: is the Education minister in Victoria. He's also the Deputy Premier.
Speaker 3: He put his hand up for leadership of Victoria when
Speaker 3: Dan Andrews resigned I mean, you think Jacinta Allen is bad.
Speaker 3: Thank god this guy didn't become the premier because his
Speaker 3: department screwed up exams for thousands of kids. Now they
Speaker 3: can't even get a website in on time or on budget.
Speaker 4: Well, clearly we need a Minister for Websites to start
Speaker 4: looking after this stuff. I mean, for goodness sake, I
Speaker 4: was staggered when I read that number. Even two point
Speaker 4: four one million dollars turn out to build a website
Speaker 4: that's got some timetables and exam results on it, and
Speaker 4: then it becomes three million. I mean, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: one of my best mates at school, who's quite appted
Speaker 4: in has ability in all of these areas, could have.
Speaker 1: Done it for a fraction of that. I reckon he
Speaker 1: could have done it for a few grand to be
Speaker 1: perfectly honest.
Speaker 4: Another one of these government contracts that I wish I
Speaker 4: could get my hands on, because I'll take the three
Speaker 4: million dollars and then I'll just outsource it to some
Speaker 4: bloke in Manila who I'm sure can do it for
Speaker 4: a fraction of that. But my favorite part of a well.
Speaker 5: The sound of it, that's what these guys have done.
Speaker 4: Probably my favorite part of all of this is that
Speaker 4: they had already decided that the delivery date was going
Speaker 4: to be March this year, twenty twenty five, and then
Speaker 4: someone in their wisdom decided that they should change that
Speaker 4: to August last year, twenty twenty four. I'm assuming they'd
Speaker 4: only just been hired, because anyone who's been in government
Speaker 4: for any period of time knows that you don't bring.
Speaker 1: The delivery date backwards to make it sooner. You always
Speaker 1: send it further down the line because it gets.
Speaker 2: Pushed over the edge.
Speaker 4: Who thought they were actually going to this is going
Speaker 4: to come fast. It's a government project that's going to
Speaker 4: come faster now.
Speaker 3: It's been taking Victorian bureaucrats, so they probably decided we'll make
Speaker 3: it due in August twenty twenty four. But they made
Speaker 3: that decision in October twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: That's right of your o thing they have.
Speaker 3: But this is typical in Melbourne, right, us in Melbourne
Speaker 3: over Christmas and you're trying to travel on public transport
Speaker 3: and they've got this my key system, which is absolutely hopeless.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I can't believe this education portal has never been done
Speaker 3: anywhere else in the world. Wouldn't you find one. I
Speaker 3: don't know in New South Wales, maybe Queensland's got one.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's one in New Zealand. You would find one
Speaker 3: and just buy it off. The showf Coffee implement it
Speaker 3: the same with their transport system, the New South Wales
Speaker 3: transport system.
Speaker 2: You tap on, you tap off. It works perfectly, but.
Speaker 3: Victoria had to invent their own and it's cost them
Speaker 3: a huge amount of money, well over a billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Still doesn't work properly.
Speaker 4: And it's delayed because they've been trying to upgrade it
Speaker 4: so you can use your credit card and that's all
Speaker 4: been delayed and it's blown out again. Was the story
Speaker 4: the other day, Danny.
Speaker 3: The latest thing, right, So when you go to the
Speaker 3: train station, this is just last week, you've got a
Speaker 3: person telling you via the announcements, tap on, but it
Speaker 3: doesn't actually tap. You've got a hob of the card overpping.
Speaker 3: You've been told to tap, but if you tap, it
Speaker 3: doesn't work.
Speaker 2: But it's been over a billion.
Speaker 5: Dollars cover and you're look like a failed magician being.
Speaker 4: Like But because I was down in Melbourne on the
Speaker 4: weekend and I don't know how many Mikey cards I
Speaker 4: now have because I forget to take one with me.
Speaker 4: Every time I go back to Melbourne, I must have
Speaker 4: through coat and jacket pockets in my wardrobe at least
Speaker 4: a dozen Markeye cards because in Victoria, for those who
Speaker 4: don't know, you can't actually tap with your phone like
Speaker 4: you can in South Australia and New South Wales and most.
Speaker 1: Of the country.
Speaker 4: You can't do it in Victoria. So every time I
Speaker 4: go down there, I have to buy the Micie card,
Speaker 4: which is six dollars and then put the credit on
Speaker 4: top of it in order.
Speaker 1: To use it.
Speaker 4: I must have hundreds of dollars sitting on Mici cards
Speaker 4: in my wardrobe.
Speaker 3: I got to tell you, I was at Southern Cross
Speaker 3: station and I'm trying to use the Mikey card and
Speaker 3: it is not working.
Speaker 2: I've put fifty bucks on it, right, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get this thing to work.
Speaker 3: Finally I give up, but fortunately they've got like an
Speaker 3: information booth and there's three people standing around all.
Speaker 2: With here to help you t shirts or whatever.
Speaker 5: So I over I couldn't help.
Speaker 3: We spent ten minutes trying to work it, and then
Speaker 3: said I don't know what to do with it.
Speaker 5: The public and It makes you feel very helping. Is
Speaker 5: just doing what I've been doing for the last five
Speaker 5: minutes to no avails.
Speaker 1: It makes you feel so silly.
Speaker 4: I was on a train on Saturday from Warrigal to Melbourne,
Speaker 4: right and these kids got on the train clearly without
Speaker 4: a Markey card and they were carrying on and yelling
Speaker 4: and shouting.
Speaker 2: Bunch of buffoons.
Speaker 5: How did they get on there? Is it not like
Speaker 5: Sydney where we have the barricade.
Speaker 4: You get on and off, So it's like if you
Speaker 4: go to a train station in Sydney that isn't a
Speaker 4: central law whatever. You just tap on anywhere when you arrive.
Speaker 4: There's no gates. So they get on at Warrigle where
Speaker 4: I got on, and it's like that, and they got off.
Speaker 4: I think it danned it on, which probably tells you
Speaker 4: half the story, doesn't it. But they carried on right
Speaker 4: throughout the trip, and the inspector came down and checked
Speaker 4: all our marking cards and he walked past the kids
Speaker 4: and I thought, hang on a minute, and he got
Speaker 4: a bit further down and then he turned around and
Speaker 4: came back and the kids said to him straight up,
Speaker 4: we don't have iikey cards and he said, I gathered that,
Speaker 4: but please don't vape.
Speaker 1: On the train. What am I doing paying to use
Speaker 1: the train?
Speaker 4: So if you have the inspects, I know you haven't
Speaker 4: got a mikey, but can you're not vape.
Speaker 3: So if you're asked by an inspector on Victorian Rail
Speaker 3: like do you have a ticket?
Speaker 2: You say no, but neither of my vape.
Speaker 1: I'm not vaping, so let me get away with it.
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, I know you're breaking that law, but
Speaker 5: the other one, don't break that one. To the UK, now,
Speaker 5: where counter protests have been running rife through the streets
Speaker 5: of London, you've probably heard of activist Tommy Robinson.
Speaker 1: This guy is a.
Speaker 5: Very colorful character. He has gotten up to a lot
Speaker 5: in his time. He's known as like an online jock,
Speaker 5: but goodness me, he's done a lot of unsavory things,
Speaker 5: including forging documents, flying into countries on the different identities.
Speaker 5: But he gets around the world and he does expose
Speaker 5: quite a few things going on in what you might
Speaker 5: call the deep state. Well right now, Tommy Robinson is
Speaker 5: serving eighteen months in jail in the UK. This is
Speaker 5: for a case that dates back to twenty twenty one
Speaker 5: where he was found guilty of libel against a fifteen
Speaker 5: year old refuge but being Tommy Robinson, he then disregarded
Speaker 5: the injunction related to that label and went ahead and
Speaker 5: repeated it. So now he's in jail for eighteen months now.
Speaker 5: Whether you think that that's good or bad, I don't
Speaker 5: know that you should be jailed for words. To me,
Speaker 5: that seems rather and I think Elon Musk agrees with
Speaker 5: me because he's taken to Twitter to say release Tommy Robinson.
Speaker 5: Because one of his good pieces of work was a
Speaker 5: sizeable documentary you can find it online that was all
Speaker 5: about the grooming gang scandal. And it was this piece
Speaker 5: of brilliant doco work by Tommy Robinson who just gets
Speaker 5: around with a camera by himself, doing all the work
Speaker 5: that journalists are supposed to do but don't because they
Speaker 5: have vested interests and the media bodies that they're working
Speaker 5: for wouldn't cover the work anyway. So he publishes this
Speaker 5: doco on x It goes absolutely viral, and now we
Speaker 5: all know about the Pakistani grooming gangs in the UK
Speaker 5: and what has been happening for well over a decade.
Speaker 5: So this guy is currently behind bars, and check out
Speaker 5: the scenes in London, not only a protest demanding he
Speaker 5: be freed, but a counter protests saying no cap him
Speaker 5: in there.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: One of the think has really exacerbated the situation is
Speaker 5: the fact that Tommy Robinson, among other things, has always
Speaker 5: been very hardline anti Islam in the UK, and we
Speaker 5: know that well, there's a lot of Islam in the UK.
Speaker 5: Now a lot of British people are feeling completely overwhelmed,
Speaker 5: completely overrun by the amount of immigration, legal and illegal
Speaker 5: in their countries, and the vast majority of them from
Speaker 5: Muslim countries. So I'm wondering how much of this protest
Speaker 5: has to do with the fact that they could actually
Speaker 5: give a sod about Tommy Robinson and the reason why
Speaker 5: he's behind bars, which again I think in this case
Speaker 5: is questionable. He had to pay out to that fifteen
Speaker 5: year old refugee one hundred thousand pounds. I don't know
Speaker 5: what he said, but good grief, one hundred thousand pounds.
Speaker 5: But I think that this outlaw and he actually is,
Speaker 5: has become the face of this movement now because he
Speaker 5: is a champion pushing back on the mass immigration, and
Speaker 5: that's who these people are rallying behind because we don't
Speaker 5: cover it enough. But these protests in the UK are
Speaker 5: happening on a weekly basis. Now, tens of thousands of
Speaker 5: Brits are taking to the streets saying we want our
Speaker 5: country back.
Speaker 4: He has become a lightning rod. And it's quite similar
Speaker 4: I think to that case last year where a number
Speaker 4: of young girls were stabbed at a Taylor Swift dance
Speaker 4: lesson right, and there was misinformation put online saying that
Speaker 4: it was a refugee who'd done it, and that caused
Speaker 4: protests all over the UK saying, you know, we should
Speaker 4: be safe in our own country.
Speaker 1: So the thing that becomes the cause.
Speaker 4: Of it, or the face of it, or the lightning
Speaker 4: rod for it is often questionable, but it is because
Speaker 4: there are underlying issues in a country that eventually lead
Speaker 4: people at a certain moment to come out and say
Speaker 4: we need to do something about this.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking.
Speaker 4: About a country in the UK. Well, it will England
Speaker 4: in Wales for this statistic, but we're talking about a
Speaker 4: country where the number one name for boys in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty three was Muhammad. I mean, oh it was last
Speaker 4: year in the UK, right, So no wonder people feel like, well,
Speaker 4: hang on a minute, this doesn't look like the country
Speaker 4: I grew up, and this doesn't look like the country
Speaker 4: I recognize. And if it's Tommy Robinson or it's someone else,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. Someone becomes the lightning rod for it.
Speaker 4: And even if an imperfect person, as Robinson quite clearly is,
Speaker 4: start saying what a lot of people are thinking, they'll
Speaker 4: put aside their differences with him and say, well, at
Speaker 4: least he's saying the stuff that needs to be said.
Speaker 4: And that's the danger in people not saying what is
Speaker 4: plainly obvious, because if you won't say it, someone else will,
Speaker 4: and it may will be someone unsavory who starts saying it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the silence of conservatives on matters of truth makes
Speaker 3: heroes of rogues or as you said, outlaws, and then
Speaker 3: of course the whole issue gets muddied. Right, So the
Speaker 3: right protest about immigration levels and a discussion on that
Speaker 3: gets confused with the character of Tommy Robinson, yes, and
Speaker 3: the whole thing just and.
Speaker 5: Then they can besmirch everyone who's protesting in his name,
Speaker 5: oh radical right wing bunch of rabble. So yeah, it
Speaker 5: definitely plays off against.
Speaker 3: It if conservatives don't speak about the issues that people
Speaker 3: on the street feel strongly about, and these are issues
Speaker 3: that people really care about. Then some rogue talks about it,
Speaker 3: and then you end up with what we end up with.
Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break.
Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news
Speaker 3: in the papers, including the federal government being asked by
Speaker 3: business please reconsider your renewables targets.
Speaker 2: You're killing us. It's coming up in this a moment.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back. Let's take a look at what's
Speaker 3: making headlines tomorrow. Liz, you've got the Northern Territory.
Speaker 2: Time, Yes, I do.
Speaker 5: Future of EDIO unclear. This is good news. We don't
Speaker 5: like the Environmental Defenders offers legal activist group. The Environmental
Speaker 5: Defender's Office sounds so great, doesn't. It could be stripped
Speaker 5: of its charity status if a watchdog finds it breach
Speaker 5: public trust by coaching a witness against Santos. Hot tip
Speaker 5: if you're a witness against Santos, you really shouldn't need coaching.
Speaker 5: I could do an hour long monologue for free without
Speaker 5: drawing breath. Shadow Resources Minister Susan McDonald has referred the
Speaker 5: Legal Activist group to the Australian Charities and Not for
Speaker 5: Profits Commission. Here's hoping that the commission finds that they're
Speaker 5: guilty and this guy does this guy, this place does
Speaker 5: lose its charity status. It's arguable that it should have
Speaker 5: it at all in the first place.
Speaker 3: We had to pay nine million dollars I think to
Speaker 3: Santos as a fine for being found guilty of coaching
Speaker 3: witnesses against them, and part of the Charities Commission says
Speaker 3: that anyone who has charitable status should avoid serious risk
Speaker 3: to public trust and confidence in the charity sector, and
Speaker 3: it would seem that they have done that.
Speaker 4: Indeed, I mean this thing gets public money as well.
Speaker 4: They should be getting zero public money because they are
Speaker 4: spending government money, taxpayer dollars to fight in often in
Speaker 4: many cases projects that have actually received the support of
Speaker 4: state and federal government. So the state federal governments are
Speaker 4: paying to send out a mob to fight against the
Speaker 4: projects that they are supporting and putting taxpayer money into.
Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 4: DIO sounds like some sort of STD or something. Oh
Speaker 4: you've got IDIO won't go near you, which.
Speaker 5: Is probably amazing.
Speaker 3: Probably let's go to the front page of tomorrow's Herald's
Speaker 3: son Premier's shock admission reads the headline, Well, I wonder
Speaker 3: what just Center Allen has come up with. Allen concedes
Speaker 3: more must be done to keep people safe. You don't
Speaker 3: say and vow's action. Well, we'll wait and see. Bail
Speaker 3: laws are too soft. That's just Center Ellen's conclusion. She
Speaker 3: has conceded Victoria's bowl laws are too soft and has
Speaker 3: ordered an immediate here we go a review. Well, I
Speaker 3: think we can all wait with baited breath for that
Speaker 3: review to be concluded. Sometime around twenty fifty eight. Just
Speaker 3: last year, there was a sixteen year old in Melbourne
Speaker 3: who was driving a stolen vehicle recording himself live streaming
Speaker 3: on Facebook or whatever platform. It was boasting about the
Speaker 3: fact that he was driving a stolen car and doesn't
Speaker 3: care if he's picked up by the police because he'll
Speaker 3: be back out on the street about ninety minutes later
Speaker 3: doing it all over again. In fact, this sixteen year
Speaker 3: old actually talked about how ridiculous it is that you
Speaker 3: could be charged with murder as a young person in
Speaker 3: Victoria and back out on the street in just a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. So when you've got teenage boys driving
Speaker 3: stolen cars, live streaming themselves joking about how bad the
Speaker 3: criminal justice system is in Victoria. Do we really need
Speaker 3: the premiere to suddenly have a Damascus Road experience and
Speaker 3: realize what everybody else has known for a long time.
Speaker 2: But this can be a review, so that surely will.
Speaker 5: So you know, it's just a matter of time before
Speaker 5: it's going to be perfect. Honestly, I don't know a
Speaker 5: single state or territory whose bail laws aren't a complete
Speaker 5: and utter nightmare. And this is something that they just
Speaker 5: outright state. When you're doing criminal law at UNI, all
Speaker 5: of the lecturers who are lawyers themselves are just like,
Speaker 5: God help you. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: what it comes down to is judicial discretion. It comes
Speaker 5: down to the magistrates. So when you hear of these
Speaker 5: cases of these kids committing fill in the blank and
Speaker 5: walking free three seconds later, you've got to ask, has
Speaker 5: this magistrate got rocks in their heads? Especially at a
Speaker 5: time when like Queensland, like Victoria, we're seeing these kids
Speaker 5: go on crime spreeze with the full confidence that there
Speaker 5: will be no punishment meet it out.
Speaker 4: And I think it shows that you said to Alan
Speaker 4: is worried. She's concerned that she could well lose government
Speaker 4: next year when they go to a state election. And
Speaker 4: what a turnaround from Daniel Andrews who was returned in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two with an extra seat, to the woman
Speaker 4: who replaced him being very concerned that she could well
Speaker 4: lose government. I've said it at the time in twenty
Speaker 4: three when she took over as in many other people,
Speaker 4: she sinder allen ate no Daniel Andrews, and I think
Speaker 4: she's proving that quite well. Let's go to The Australian
Speaker 4: to borrow, where it says eighty two percent of no charts.
Speaker 4: Funny about that the nation's largest business body is predicting
Speaker 4: Labor will have to revisit its renewables target of twenty
Speaker 4: thirty amid crippling energy prices and looming supply shortfalls, calling
Speaker 4: on Anthony Albersi to hold urgent talks with gas executives
Speaker 4: to unleash the shackles of the resource so it can
Speaker 4: play a bigger role in Australia's energy sector. Every time
Speaker 4: we come across one of these stories, I feel like
Speaker 4: I'm bashing my head against a brick wall because for
Speaker 4: how long have we known? For how long have we
Speaker 4: been saying that we are not going to meet these
Speaker 4: targets by twenty thirty And then once we get to
Speaker 4: twenty thirty, they're going to set a target for twenty
Speaker 4: thirty five, So you know, it's all stuffed. And as
Speaker 4: the problem for us is that if you assign up
Speaker 4: to the Paris Accords as we are, if you set
Speaker 4: a target, you can only revise it upwards. You're not
Speaker 4: allowed You're not under the terms of the Paris Agreement.
Speaker 4: You're not allowed to revise your target downwards because you
Speaker 4: realize you can't make it. So the only way to
Speaker 4: actually get out of it is to pull out of
Speaker 4: the Paris Accords, as we should do. But every expert
Speaker 4: in the energy sector has known for years and has
Speaker 4: been saying four years that we're not going to meet
Speaker 4: these targets, and we're still talking about it.
Speaker 3: And Chris Bowen's response to this is that we have
Speaker 3: to have more renewables because coal is too unreliable. But
Speaker 3: of course the reason that coal is unreliable is because
Speaker 3: the government have created zero incentive for coal fired power
Speaker 3: stations to receive.
Speaker 2: Adequate Oh and they've got read if they haven't been
Speaker 2: blown up by the government.
Speaker 5: Yes, so the ones that are remaining are like, dear God,
Speaker 5: you got rid of a pile of coal power stations,
Speaker 5: and now the ones remaining are happening to work double
Speaker 5: time to make up for the deficit because you stupid
Speaker 5: flogs have realized in hindsight, Ah, we needed those. Yeah,
Speaker 5: actually we can't keep the lights on without And this again,
Speaker 5: now gas is okay, gas was so bad we couldn't
Speaker 5: have gas. No, no, we weren't going to be relying
Speaker 5: on gas. Okay, we're going to be relying on gas
Speaker 5: a little bit just to prop us up while we
Speaker 5: get over the line. Okay, now we need a hell
Speaker 5: of a lot more gas. And he's convening these meetings again.
Speaker 5: How is the sector supposed to cope when for years
Speaker 5: they've been told, actually, sit on your laurels. We are
Speaker 5: not going to be putting the pedal to the metal
Speaker 5: in your gas sector. We're very like question mark about it.
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden you have them turn
Speaker 5: around and be like, we need you. I mean, what
Speaker 5: kind of infrastructure, the people, power, all the rest of it.
Speaker 5: Are these poor people having to be like, oh great, now,
Speaker 5: all eyes on us. We've got to keep the lights
Speaker 5: on after you've been telling us for years we're all
Speaker 5: but redundant.
Speaker 4: Indeed, well, I'll tell you one place where the lights
Speaker 4: ought to go off. It's this blokes mosque. This story
Speaker 4: word spreads radical back's new outposts. Now you will remember
Speaker 4: this guy from last year and since October the seventh,
Speaker 4: of course, he was talking about, you know, trees killing Jews, etc.
Speaker 4: A cleric could have newly established Islamic center in Melbourne
Speaker 4: backed by radical Sydney preacher with him, Haddad has lamented
Speaker 4: that young Australian Muslims are being brainwashed, falling victim to
Speaker 4: liberal ideologies, and that the first words spoken by a
Speaker 4: child shouldn't be mother or father but Allah.
Speaker 1: Well there you go.
Speaker 4: I'm glad I'd take parenting advice from this blow. Had
Speaker 4: you even poach a kid to say allah before it's
Speaker 4: his mum or dad? For Heaven's sake. But isn't it
Speaker 4: funny these Muslim boys and girls are being taught about
Speaker 4: liberal Western ideologies?
Speaker 5: Hmm?
Speaker 1: Would that happen if you weren't living in Australia? What
Speaker 1: do you think was going to happen? For goodness, say well.
Speaker 3: I mean, the fact is they can practice their religion
Speaker 3: anyway they want it. If they think kids should say
Speaker 3: Allah before they.
Speaker 2: Say Mum or dad, that's their prerogative. The question we've
Speaker 2: got to ask is, what are.
Speaker 5: You doing in my country?
Speaker 2: Is that the sort of culture of a lot to foster?
Speaker 2: Are we happy about that?
Speaker 4: We are?
Speaker 3: We think that's problematic. Maybe we should reflect that in
Speaker 3: some of our policies. We're going to go to a
Speaker 3: break when we come back. Fashion or rather no fashion,
Speaker 3: no clothes at all. At the Grammys, that's a moment.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: I think the US selection proved that we really don't
Speaker 3: pay much attention to celebrities anymore. And I think they
Speaker 3: know it, which is why the Grammys they're going to
Speaker 3: such extreme lengths to try and get our attention. Check
Speaker 3: out this outfit from Jaden Smith. He's the son of
Speaker 3: Will Smith. He literally went on the red carpet with
Speaker 3: a house on his head. I'm not quite sure the
Speaker 3: significance of that. Maybe there is no significance at all.
Speaker 3: He just wanted to get on the Late Debate mission.
Speaker 4: I mean, some people can't even afford houses, and he's
Speaker 4: walking around with one on his head now.
Speaker 3: And I got to tell you, I thought that was
Speaker 3: the worst thing on the red carpet. And then along
Speaker 3: came Kanne's girlfriend, Bianca sensory, sensory by name, but not
Speaker 3: sensory by nature. She was basically wearing one leg of stocking. Evently,
Speaker 3: karannye with all his money, couldn't afford to buy her address.
Speaker 3: And I would have thought, Caleb, somewhere between the burker
Speaker 3: and that travesty, you know, maybe humanity could find I
Speaker 3: don't know something that would be, you know, between the two.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like clothes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, if you or I walked around
Speaker 4: in the nick, we probably get nicked for public indecency.
Speaker 4: But that's art, Caleb, that's oh, for goodness sake, if
Speaker 4: you're a celebrity, you can get away with it. Day.
Speaker 1: I think they need to check into an institution very
Speaker 1: quickly before we go. He at tasked.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've used it, but you can
Speaker 4: go on there and advertise for all sorts of odd
Speaker 4: jobs to be done around your house or even at.
Speaker 1: The local park.
Speaker 4: One bloke who's put up an ad saying, look, I'm
Speaker 4: having a picnic in the afternoon or later in the morning.
Speaker 4: I need someone to get down there in the morning
Speaker 4: as soon as the park opens and reserve the park
Speaker 4: bench for me. He is offering fifty dollars for someone
Speaker 4: to go to a park in Randwick and sit at
Speaker 4: the table for two hours so he can come along
Speaker 4: later and use it. Fifty bucks doesn't sound like a
Speaker 4: bad deal for me on a lazy morning.
Speaker 1: But how about this one.
Speaker 4: I saw this last week or a week or two
Speaker 4: ago a blog advertising in Sydney for a fake girlfriend
Speaker 4: five hundred dollars because he's going to a family dinner
Speaker 4: and obviously mum keeps asking you know you've got a
Speaker 4: girlfriend yet, and he's like, I will literally pay five
Speaker 4: hundred dollars for a girl to come to family dinner
Speaker 4: and pretend we're together again.
Speaker 1: That seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Speaker 5: He mustn't see his family often, though, because this is
Speaker 5: if this is gonna be a long standing ruse, you're
Speaker 5: just gonna have to be like, next time you see them, yeah,
Speaker 5: we broke off. I mean, don't go to be a
Speaker 5: long term plan.
Speaker 3: One hundred dollars for someone to pretend to break up
Speaker 3: with me. That's it from us.
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