1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,560 Michael Thompson: Welcome to Ask Fear and Greed, where we answer questions 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,520 Michael Thompson: about business, investing, economics, politics and more. I'm Michael Thompson 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,200 Michael Thompson: and hello, Sean Almer, Hello Michael Jean. I like today's 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,960 Michael Thompson: question because it's got a bit of attitude in it. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,480 Michael Thompson: I'll share it with you. It's very short. Is productivity 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,640 Michael Thompson: just a fancy word for work harder for the same money. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Michael Thompson: It's a good point, it's a great question. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,320 Sean Aylmer: Fair point, it's a fair point. And if you work 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,240 Sean Aylmer: harder for the same money and output increases, that's exactly 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,320 Sean Aylmer: what productivity is. 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,879 Michael Thompson: There we go and success. 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,040 Sean Aylmer: It's just like that, a little more nuanced. So productivity 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Sean Aylmer: refers to how much output can be produced with a 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,840 Sean Aylmer: given set of inputs. So if a person is working 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,600 Sean Aylmer: on a job and they work harder and increase output, 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Sean Aylmer: then their productivity has increased, which is fair. 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,800 Michael Thompson: Now, it's so your work, how do you do that? 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,720 Sean Aylmer: It's much more than that labor productivity, which has been 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,759 Sean Aylmer: argued about ever since work began and will continue ever. 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,040 Sean Aylmer: It thus is to find us as output per worker 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,440 Sean Aylmer: or output per hour work one or the other. If 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:22,320 Sean Aylmer: you think about that, I'm using AI to create an email, 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Sean Aylmer: makes it faster. I'm becoming more productive. Right, so technology 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Sean Aylmer: is helping me to become more productive. So that's not 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,119 Sean Aylmer: me working harder, that's actually me working smarter. A good salesperson, 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,959 Sean Aylmer: for example, who's better at selling than someone else, is 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,160 Sean Aylmer: more productive than that other person, someone who might be 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,760 Sean Aylmer: good at technology. You are better at technology than me, right, Yes, 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,680 Sean Aylmer: therefore you can be more more productive. 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,320 Michael Thompson: Sorry, sorry to agree with you so quickly. 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Sean Aylmer: There. 32 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,200 Michael Thompson: I have tried you set up the fear and read 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:57,520 Michael Thompson: daily newsletter. 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,400 Sean Aylmer: I thought I was doing pretty well. And then and 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,960 Sean Aylmer: often businesses try introduce change management practice practices, like you know, 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Sean Aylmer: at Fear and Greed, we could suggest to atom Lung 37 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,080 Sean Aylmer: we have fewer meetings that might be more productive. So 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,400 Sean Aylmer: it's not just about someone working harder, it's actually working smarter. 39 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,359 Sean Aylmer: And generally bosses don't want people to work harder, they 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,639 Sean Aylmer: want them to work smarter. Okay, So that's kind of 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,079 Sean Aylmer: the whole labor productivity thing. Then there's this thing called 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,000 Sean Aylmer: multi factor productivity that's output per unity input. Labor is 43 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Sean Aylmer: part of that, okay, but it's like raw materials, energy, 44 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:41,160 Sean Aylmer: all that stuff. It's a bit tricky productivity because the 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,920 Sean Aylmer: abs the strain Bureau Statistics measures it and what it 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Sean Aylmer: does is output per unit of input for different industry 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,080 Sean Aylmer: sectors economy. You can't get very granular on it. 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Michael Thompson: I was going to say, they would have to be 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,720 Michael Thompson: a hard thing to measure and to compare. 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,240 Sean Aylmer: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a bit rubber. Now, Australia 51 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,919 Sean Aylmer: doesn't have a good productivity track record in recent years. 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,120 Sean Aylmer: Lots of so where we really did well in productivities 53 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:17,239 Sean Aylmer: often where you have big industrial relations reforms where let's 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Sean Aylmer: give the example where everyone got paid more on a 55 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,839 Sean Aylmer: Saturday and even more on a Sunday than they did 56 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Sean Aylmer: Monday to Friday, and we had extended shopping hours. When 57 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,520 Sean Aylmer: they introduced a modern award, that actually meant that everyone 58 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,480 Sean Aylmer: got a little bit more, but you didn't get a 59 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,360 Sean Aylmer: lot more on the weekends. And that was actually a 60 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,560 Sean Aylmer: productivity improvement because they're actually getting more output per unit 61 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,400 Sean Aylmer: of input because the cost went down in some cases. Okay, 62 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,440 Sean Aylmer: And the question is why is productivity so important? Well, 63 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,600 Sean Aylmer: if there's more output per unit of input, so the 64 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,680 Sean Aylmer: company gets that, they might give their workers more wages, 65 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Sean Aylmer: they might take more of it, which means good for shareholders. 66 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,400 Sean Aylmer: They might actually decide let's cut prices because we've got 67 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,800 Sean Aylmer: more of this stuff and people can buy, you know, 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Sean Aylmer: sl apply and demand will reduce prices. So overall, productivity 69 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,080 Sean Aylmer: helps economic growth higher living standards. But it's a very 70 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,560 Sean Aylmer: tricky thing to measure, and in theory at least, it's 71 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,320 Sean Aylmer: about working smarter rather than harder. 72 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,600 Michael Thompson: Okay, So is productivity just a fancy word for work 73 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,159 Michael Thompson: harder For the same money, it is a fancy word 74 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Michael Thompson: for work smarter wherever possible improve your efficiency at the 75 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,760 Michael Thompson: way you're producing your output stuff. 76 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Sean Aylmer: Yeah, and that might be working harder. And so like productivity, 77 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,360 Sean Aylmer: increasing your output because you're working harder, that might be. 78 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,440 Sean Aylmer: And if you don't work particularly hard Michael, then for example, 79 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,479 Sean Aylmer: you're working harder might actually be huge productivity improvement. 80 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,839 Michael Thompson: For this feels like that was partly prompted by my 81 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,440 Michael Thompson: remark about you trying to set up the daily newsletter. 82 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,080 Sean Aylmer: Not at all, Michael, not at all. 83 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,120 Michael Thompson: But remember, nothing will ever be as good as the 84 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,480 Michael Thompson: time our fear and greed. 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I actually listened to what 101 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,599 Michael Thompson: you said and I took it and I used it 102 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,560 Michael Thompson: to make an educated point. Excellent, Well done, Thank you 103 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,880 Michael Thompson: all right, Thanks Seawan. 104 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:15,559 Sean Aylmer: Thanks Michael. 105 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,240 Michael Thompson: Remember, if you've got something that you would like to know, 106 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,960 Michael Thompson: then please send me your question on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook 107 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,920 Michael Thompson: or fearangreed dot com dot at you. I'm Michael Thompson 108 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,479 Michael Thompson: and this is ask Fear and Greed