WEBVTT - #2098 The Next Mayor Of Ballan - Patrick Bonello 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.440 I get a team. It's a you project. It's Patrick 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:09.360 and Craig. It's we are officially tipless, which sounds like syphless, 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:13.320 but it's not. It's we're tipless, not siphless, and straight 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.120 into it. It's Friday here and the thriving metropolis. I'll 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.599 say that again slower for our American listeners. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:19.320 Friday. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.160 It is sixteen minutes past nine in the am. It's 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:29.040 the thirtieth of the first. We're sliding into February already, Patrick, 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.360 we're already well and truly past the new year, like 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:34.520 we're into the next month. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:34.920 Nelly. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.400 That just fills me with dread. And you know what, 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:42.000 it's take two, isn't it. Sorry, that was kind of funny, So. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:43.400 Tell everyone what you did to me. 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.839 So Paul Craig is so excited about the intro of 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.600 the show and he gets in there and he does 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.320 his rave and it's sounding great. But he was over 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.840 a termin radio called over modulating. He was yelling so 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:59.280 much that it was clipping the VU level meter. Craigo, 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:01.200 if you had a you meet her in front of you, 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.040 it would be belting the red. It would probably smash 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.000 the glass and it would have gone out and it 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:07.479 would have shattered all over the panel. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.560 Yeah, fuck you, vu Meter, stick it up your bottom. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.280 That's why I have you, because you're the tech geek. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:19.000 You can go, hey fucking loudy McLoud, start rein it in. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.120 Just slow it down, lower it down, get back in 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.280 the sweet spot where you're not deafening people. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:26.960 I can be. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.440 I can be a lot like you have to. The 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.640 thing is too when you do it every day right. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.959 You want to get yourself into a place where like 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.800 you've got good energy, but sometimes that just gets twisted in. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:42.440 With the volume. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.280 I just like to think that when I'm on the show, 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:46.440 you get more excited. 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.840 I take it asa you know, well, I definitely look 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.040 forward to podcasts with you because you know, this is 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.600 purely subjective and our listeners may or may not agree. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.480 But I feel like over the last while, I don't know, 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.240 I feel like our shows are better. Probably some people 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:04.800 think they're worse, but it's just for me. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.320 It's more fun. Like we've had a lot of fun recently. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.320 But what I love about you is I don't need 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:13.280 to do any planning because for those who don't know, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.120 Patrick sets the agenda for what we're going to talk 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.120 about and just sends it through to me. I literally 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.200 have his face and my face on the screen, and 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.680 below that a list of topics, so I don't even know. 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.280 It's not like I've read and then opened up the 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.959 link and then read that I've done nothing, which suits 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.720 me perfectly because I'm in the middle of my productivity. 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.080 I'm also have a propensity for laziness, so that suits me. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.080 But yeah, our shows are easy. You and Me is 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:45.840 probably the easiest, least effort show, so thank you for that, 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:50.080 but not so much laziness for you because you have 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.160 to do or did you do this prep? Or did 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:53.880 one of your underlings do this prep? 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:55.400 No, a bit of both. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.639 What I do is I read a whole lot of 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.800 stuff over the fortnite, and if I see an article 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.200 that I think's worth chatting about, I email it to 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.880 myself and then I get one of my colleagues to 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.120 just put it all into a document, and then I 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.600 refine it from there. I kind of swap things around 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.080 or add a little bits and pieces. So it's usually 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:14.680 just stuff that I've read and I want to remind 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.560 myself of so I don't forget to talk about it. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.560 It's kind of it's fun. I enjoy it because I 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:22.880 just I love tech and I love what's going on 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.000 in tech. And sometimes it scares me, sometimes it excites me. 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.480 Other times. Yeah, it's but it's nice to to kind 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:33.280 of spitball it, you know, it's good to chat about questions. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.600 And I think that's part of the enjoyment is that 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.320 you won't let me get away with anything, which is 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.000 nice you challenge me. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.120 Yeah, Well, we were talking about this off air, right, 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.320 we were talking about which we won't mention the specifics, 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.680 but we're talking about friendship in general, and when were 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.200 talking about like we all want to be nice, but 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:57.640 like when does niceness become weakness or over compliance or 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.760 people pleasing? And you're a very You're probably a nicer 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.080 person than me in that sense. I think we're both kind, 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:09.400 but I think you're nicer, Like i'd probably rather hang 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:16.719 out with you, you know, but that you know, where does 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.680 when do we get to the point where we go, Hey, 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.680 I totally disagree with you, but that's cool, Like we 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.640 don't have to agree, you think, you know, Like you 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.640 were saying, you've got a really good friend who's I 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.560 once say what beliefs but got some very opposing beliefs 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:35.839 to you, right, but they're great. They're great, and same 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.440 with me. I've got, you know, I've got a bunch 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.880 of friends who think similar to me, who are kind 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.400 of half and half, and then some friends who were 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:49.320 kind of oppositional in our thinking around certain things, like 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:50.360 quite a lot of the time. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:51.800 But I like how they think. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.680 And I like the fact, like when people become very 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:58.320 finger pointing and dogmatic, you can fuck right off. But 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.320 if you just go you know, I think A and 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.920 you think B. These are my reasons. I'm like, cool, Yeah, 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.360 we're friends. We don't think the same about that thing. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.040 But as I said to you off here, and you like, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.480 the idea is like if we have to agree on anything, 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.240 it's not a friendship, it's a cult. Like if we 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.400 all have to think the same, do the same, eat 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.280 the same, move the same, believe the same, well, that's 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:24.640 a that's weird. That's just so not a normal, healthy friendship. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:26.160 Do you see that though? 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.960 In that ecosystem where people tend to have the blinker 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.560 vision on and they just attract people who are exactly 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:33.280 the same as them. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.000 I found that when I worked in the media. 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:36.400 One of the things I didn't want to do is 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.160 hang out with people in the media because all. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:43.680 This later, well, that's confirmation bias, right, where you only 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.919 look for people who kind of are like you or 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.360 think like you, or their ideas and philosophy and perhaps habits, 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:54.960 behavior lifestyle are familiar to you and comfortable for you, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.280 and and so you hang out with them because they're 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.520 just a different version of you, and you like that. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:05.520 But people don't like hanging out with people who perhaps 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:09.160 the way that they live or are challenge them without 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.800 even being spoken to the amount of people who have 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.760 said to me over the years like this is a 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.159 guy who was morbidly obese who then got himself in 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.160 quite good shape. I never evangelize people, as in I 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.000 never I never just go up to people and give 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.599 people advice. Ever, the only time I give advice is 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:31.120 if I'm like on a show or somebody's asked for it. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.120 But the people who have said to me over the years, oh, 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:39.159 you're just obsessed, because if I'm obsessed, then they're right 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:44.279 and I'm wrong, versus well, I'm actually I've got a 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.520 set of habits and behaviors and a lifestyle and an 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:50.000 operating system that works really well for my physiology and 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:54.400 my genetics. I don't obsess about food, I don't obsess 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.240 about exercise. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.640 I just do what works for me. But it's much 0:06:58.680 --> 0:06:59.240 easier to. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:03.840 Criticize someone else's behavior or lifestyle because it means you 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.240 can't be wrong. If they're wrong, you can't be wrong, 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.200 then you don't need to change. And that's also all 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.600 of this shit is emotional too, Like you're a vegetarian 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.840 slash vegan, which I'm. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.800 Totally up for, and I think we might. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.080 All find out one day that maybe that's a better option. 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.440 Maybe we won't, but whatever, you're very passionate about it, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.000 as you should be. Therefore, there's emotion. So it's very 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.720 hard to be totally logical and objective about something for 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.640 which your personality and your identity and your emotion are 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:36.600 all intertwined. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:38.679 Same with me when. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.160 People say are getting in shape, it's all about you 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.800 having the obesity gene. It's got nothing to do with 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.600 what you eat. Or I'm like, well that's just not 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.440 fucking true, you know, Like I'm quite passionate about certain 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.320 things that others aren't. You go, okay, you believe your thing. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.520 I believe my thing. And it's all right. We don't 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:03.280 need to convince each other. M yeah, yeah, it's life. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.160 It's good. It's good to have challenges. It's good to 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.880 have your belief systems challenged all the time. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.120 I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.440 And I was thinking I wrote this thing last night. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:18.120 It's like, oh, hang on, I'm going to read it's 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.120 behind me on the whiteboard. Tell me if this doesn't 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:25.000 sound good or you can't hear me. I've crunched the numbers, 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.600 and it seems that the chance of me getting stuff 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.400 wrong in the future is one hundred percent. 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.960 Do you know what I mean? I love it. Yeah. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.040 It's like, well, of course, of course, how many days 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.560 do I get things wrong every day of my life? 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.880 How many things with that total since I was a 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.520 young adult, I don't know, probably in the hundreds of thousands, 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.000 at least in the tens of thousands. So why the 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:56.600 fuck would I assume unequivocally that I'm right now? I 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:01.079 actually think that's a real sign of people in general, 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.000 of and I know we're getting philosophical, will dive into 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:08.200 the tech in a minute, but being somewhat evolved when 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.520 you can say this is what I think and believe, 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.640 but I could be wrong because I've been wrong about 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:14.640 many things before. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.319 I've been playing little thought games every now and again, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:24.720 where I think, am I still as mentally flexible in 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.560 terms of my belief systems and being wrong? 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:29.520 And is that changing? 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.600 Because we hear that as people get older, they get 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.079 grumpier and they're less inclined to be flexible with their minds. 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.839 And so for me, when I'm very firm on an 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.600 opinion and someone has a contrary opinion or I say 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:42.480 well you're wrong. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:43.120 Do it this way. 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.360 I try to take a pause now and say, well, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.760 maybe I am wrong with this, and should I just 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.480 sit back and take a bit of a breath and 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.480 reevaluate rather than just being no, I'm right, because the 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.200 instant reaction when someone sees you're wrong is to say no, 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.920 I'm right, you're wrong, and it is it's human nat. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.480 But I wonder whether I'm becoming more old in my 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.160 mind and less flexible. But i'd like to think I'm not, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:09.920 and I think we all liked to in some point, 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:11.040 But I don't know. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:12.439 Do you do you ever challenge it? 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.760 I know you try to be as open minded as 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.640 possible and take on new ideas. 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.120 But more than ever, I was much more closed minded 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:26.040 when I was young, much more right, unequivocally like, well, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:30.160 you know my background, right, So I grew up unequivocally 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.080 telling people how God works and heaven and hell and 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.680 judgment and the Bible and Old Testament New Testament. But 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.520 that was my programming, and that was my conditioning, and 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.080 that was my wheelhouse, and that was where I was comfortable, 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.240 and that was where I was confident, and that was 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:52.640 where I was familiar. And so in my mind I knew, like, 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.160 you know, Jesus said, I am the Way, the Truth 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.120 and the life like that, Nobody comes to me but 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.320 by the Father. Right, this is unequivocal. This is not 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:06.679 an opinion everyone, This is Jesus. And then you go, yeah, yeah, maybe, 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.200 like do we have any proof that Jesus said that, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:11.880 Do we have any you know? It's like then you 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:16.040 unpack it, which to me was unthinkable because that was blasphemous. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.960 But then now all these years later, there's no bidder, 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.200 there's no twisted, there's no there's just like, oh, look 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.280 do I still have faith or belief? Well the answer 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:32.120 is yes, do I have evidence? No? Do I have 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:36.800 absolute unequivocal proof or knowledge. No, could I be wrong? 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:37.600 Yes? 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.440 Now, there was a long time in my life where 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:44.720 I would never have said that you know about everything, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.800 about the best way to try, the best way to eat. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.040 I would tell you, no, this is how you should eat. 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.679 And then I discovered stuff and I'm like, oh, I've 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.400 been not I've only been wrong. I've been a fucking 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:56.720 wrong for like decades. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:57.280 Yeah. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.199 What was interesting because we were talking before we got 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.600 on air about human So humanism is basically a secular 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.800 set of moral values that are innately built into human 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.720 beings or the belief system of that. You walk across 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:11.520 the road you see a kid about to be run 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.760 over by a car, most human beings, decent human beings, 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.760 would run across the road and grab that kid. They 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.760 wouldn't look at a scripture, they wouldn't second guess themselves. 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.360 They would just do that because it's the right thing 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.439 to do, and we would feel that it's the right 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:28.560 thing to do. But isn't it funny how ultimately they intersect. So, 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.440 whether it's religious tenets and or humanist tenets or whatever 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:37.280 you believe, Buddhist, Muslim, whatever, there is an intersection where 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.160 there's a basic right and wrong that I think a 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.000 lot of us do feel. So, you know, however you 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.840 get to that point, whether it's through a book and reading, 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.480 or whether it's just because it feels the right thing 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.320 to do, I think a lot of us do come 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:50.160 to the same place. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.839 Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, it's I call it your 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.320 internal sat NAV. That's like almost people might call it 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.160 their moral car or ethical compass or whatever where you 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.880 kind of go. You know, there's like this level of 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:10.480 knowledge and wisdom and truth and insight. I think again, 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.000 this is what I think that we have access to 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.400 where you don't need anyone to teach you or tell you. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.000 You don't need to read it, you don't need to 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.360 hear it to know that this thing is a bad 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.240 thing to do to someone, This thing is a kind 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:23.880 thing to do. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:25.440 This is an. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:30.040 Acceptable behavior, This is an unacceptable behavior, you know. I 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.760 think there's that in a knowing. But then you know 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.760 the thing about and we'll get off this in a minute, 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.920 but we you know, growing up, you don't realize that 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.680 you are literally being programmed like a computer. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.120 You know, your software is being. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.600 Being programmed you like this Patrick, by the people around you, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.640 by your school, by your peers, by your family, by 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:57.480 the information, by social media, by mainstream media, by you know, 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.160 old media, or whatever we want to call it. You know, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.360 you just and then you up one day and you're twenty. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.840 Now you've got this worldview that you didn't choose. You 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.920 didn't choose it. It's just a byproduct of your life, 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.080 you know. And then so then to actually because that's 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:16.760 now your your operating system, that's the window through which 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.600 you view everything. And then to be able to have 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:23.040 enough courage and perhaps open mindedness to go, gee, I 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:27.040 wonder of all the stuff that I believe, what's perhaps flawed, 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.880 or what's true, or what's maybe not kind what's kind 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.400 of not true. That's a hard thing to say when 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:39.960 your worldview and your beliefs in your your story is 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.000 intertwined with who you are, because then you've got to 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.840 kind of maybe refigure out. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:49.200 Who the fuck you are. This is deep, right, Yeah, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:50.880 I know. I just think we could almost keep on 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:51.480 going on this. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:58.400 I'm happy to do you want to keep going or 0:14:58.400 --> 0:14:59.840 do you want to do the science. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:03.400 The disappointing the people who are tuning in for at least. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.560 All right, let's do that let's start sorry about that 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.400 philosophical fucking way. 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:08.360 That was good? 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.880 Do long two winded mainly from me? We do that 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:16.680 we Episode one one seven. According to Patrick's notes, Episode one, 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:23.320 Patrick James Banello soon to be the mayor of Bland. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.360 Wait more on that later. The mayor of Balan. You 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.360 heard it here first time. His campaign manager. We're going 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.520 to start pushing that. Are you open to look at him? 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.080 He's saying nothing. He's saying nothing. That was my idea, 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.040 not his. So the current mayor of Bland, if you 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.560 hear this, you don't need to be nervous at all. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.160 We don't. We don't have a mayor anymore. Do you 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.880 have Maruble? Shi's right, that's it. Well, that's you. That's 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.040 going to be you, That's going to be you. I 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:53.800 was chatting to. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:58.760 Somebody yesterday who you know who came to visit you. Yeah, 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:02.440 and he and I we won't mention his name. Max, Peggy. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.720 We are firmly of the belief that you need to 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.120 be the mayor of that pound slash environment. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:09.920 All right. 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:14.160 Scientists develop a new way to see inside the human 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.240 body using three D color imaging. What is the new way? 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.560 That's not an X ray or an MRI or a 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:24.880 bloody pet scan or what is this new way grasshopper 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:26.359 or obi one. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.960 This is interesting because I mean I've been for ultrasounds. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.520 I'm sure you've been for an ultrasound before. Ultrasounds are 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:37.200 great because they're relatively cheap to do, but they don't 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.160 have the fidelity or the resolution of other things. So 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:44.480 you know, you might have so photo acoustic imaging, you know, MRIs, 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.280 that sort of thing. The issue we've got and many 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.600 other sort of imaging is where you inject dies into 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.640 your body to see how your body circulation works and 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.000 things like that. So now what scientists are looking at 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:02.000 is it's basically blending sound and photoacoustics. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.320 And the idea is that you cannot. 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.320 Just capture the structure of the tissue and blood vessels, 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.720 but you can see them in three D as well, 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.000 so you know, and that can me in real time 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.040 while they're doing what they do. So it's this, you know, 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:20.560 this mash up of these technologies to give you a 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.080 much better, more accurate, and higher fidelity view of what's 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.439 going inside you. It's about ten centimeters in so in 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.840 terms of how far into the skin and into your 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.920 internal functionings. But that's pretty exciting stuff. And I mean 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:39.719 particularly if you're trying to diagnose issues related to, say, 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.359 what's going on in your brain. 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.679 If you've got, you know, a tumor, what is the 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.120 tumor doing? Is it growing? 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.919 Is you know, is it being fed lots more? You know, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:50.680 the blood vessels going to it. You know this all 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.280 that sort of stuff that can help with diagnosis and 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.320 looking at detailed anatomy because at the end of the day, 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.200 you know, without having to put a scalpel down, because 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:00.639 that's the last thing you want and I have to do. 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.760 If you can help and get a bit of diagnosis 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.320 without having to deep dive literally, then this is yet it's. 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:08.119 Pretty exciting stuff. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:13.159 So just the combination of current technologies to make it 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.520 all work better. And it's they're calling it RUST. So 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:21.720 it's a RUSS pat Rotational ultrasound tomography is what it's 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.639 called interesting and it's using photoacoustic tomography. 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.159 So when you say you can look at it in 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.719 real time, does that mean it comes up like a 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:36.120 little video where you're seeing, like, for example, the heartbeat, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.080 so you're actually seeing versus like a still picture. 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.000 And that's the idea and it's in three D as well, 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.840 so you can wow, that's bloody great. Yeah, so it's 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.600 really interesting this and this is ongoing of course, but 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.680 and I mean I don't think it's commercially available yet, 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:54.480 but it's a way of kind of proving that it 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:59.119 can be done. And yeah, it's pretty it's it's going 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.560 to take a big leap forward in diagnosis. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.879 Well, yeah, the next one is of interest and a 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.760 little bit of alarm to me. I'm going to be honest. 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.200 Some people use WhatsApp boys and girls. It's an app 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:17.399 that's meant to be more secure, so let's say yeah, no, 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.280 let's not say anything. But people who don't want other 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.760 people to be able to access their messages use, among 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.760 other things, WhatsApp is one of the app apps that's 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.000 been known to be more secure should you want to 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.920 send a message that you don't want seen by anyone else. 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.560 But there's a lawsuit now alleging that WhatsApp has no 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.359 end to end encryption, which is their big claim. We 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.720 have end to end encryption, which means nobody can access 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.400 your messages, nobody accept you, and the receiver. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:50.360 Can get to this. That may I'm going. 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.080 To have to quickly go and erase a whole lot 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:56.520 of shit on my phone. I'm not you are fucking 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:03.080 what is it hot in here? So we are you know, 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.320 those of us who are dealing buddy, you know, peels 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.119 out the back of our panel van, we could be 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:09.080 in trouble. 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.040 It's just that I think that. By the way, I 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:13.600 don't know. 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:17.040 How drug dealing works, so apologies to the drug dealers. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:21.720 I'm making this WhatsApp. Yeah, yeah, the figure they don't. 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.480 And the other thing too is if you think about 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.200 a journalist interviewing somebody who's a whistleblower, you know, using 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:33.200 ah encryption, or someone who's in a politically volatile country 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.399 but is using WhatsApp to disclose. I mean, gosh, if 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.960 you're in Iran at the moment, you're absolutely screwed. But 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.000 you're not hearing this because there's a massive blockout of 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:47.840 Internet anyway. But what this means is WhatsApp was purchased 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.680 by Neta a few years ago. 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:54.320